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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's It is a very special

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Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Tostitos, the official

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Speaker 1: chip in the official dip of the Dallas Cowboys. Here

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Speaker 1: two very special Talking Cowboys guests, not really guests to

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Speaker 1: of the media team. But David Hellman back for the

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Speaker 1: second straight day. We liked you so much we invited

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Speaker 1: you back. Thanks Kyle, it was I'm trying to match

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Speaker 1: your energy right now. I don't know how. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you do this nine am show every day. Man.

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Speaker 1: Me and Barry are like, oh, hold on, you gotta

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Speaker 1: get a little coffee and you get up a little

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Speaker 1: run in. I'll tell you that all my plant, like

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Speaker 1: our shows not till like ten thirty. So I do

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Speaker 1: the workout. I come in and then when I knew

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Speaker 1: I was on the nine o'clock show, I was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, all that's out the one. I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 1: in body, sometimes in mind and figure it out. But

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Speaker 1: we've also got Barried Church. Yes, sir, what's going on? Man?

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Speaker 1: Nothing much? How are you amazing? Man's first date here

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Speaker 1: on was this talking Kyle. You gotta remember like show good? No,

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Speaker 1: see that you don't though, Barry's just like, give me

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Speaker 1: the microphone. We'll see what I gotta matter. He's on

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Speaker 1: a couple of the helmet approach. Man. I love it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Now we don't have Danny McCray today. We had a

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Speaker 1: scheduling conflict. Is ultimately why Danny is not available. He'll

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Speaker 1: be on the later show. You were on Hanging On

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Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys yesterday. Yeah, yes, some day. So

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Speaker 1: so tonight season forty one, the music in the background,

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Speaker 1: Here we go, There we go, Team Danny. Man, let's

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's a chance. I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I hope not. You know, there's some shady people. Have

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Speaker 1: y'all been watching it? Y's some real shady cats. But

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Speaker 1: into that Survivator game, I would get my ass kicked

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Speaker 1: so bad. Oh, you and me both. I can't strategize

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Speaker 1: like that. You would just tell everybody I got im

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Speaker 1: just like, yeah, this is what I'm gonna do, or

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Speaker 1: like whatever. Like I don't even know how to like

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Speaker 1: was my boy man bad. Yeah it took a personal Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: classic bye week stuff. You know, you get days off

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Speaker 1: And I mean, like again, I've made mistakes in my life,

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Speaker 1: bean Uh. This is this was planned prior to the news,

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Speaker 1: So to me, he's playing extremely well. Kazy, he's doing

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Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon, Barry fines came from. Oh yeah, a lot

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Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Week, Dak Prescott. It's gonna come

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Speaker 1: to you whenever you put up four hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: five passing yards and three touchdowns against the Bill Belichick defense.

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Speaker 1: Also not to mention, I believe it was Todd Archer

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Speaker 1: who tweeted this stat out yesterday, but Dak Prescott's the

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Speaker 1: first player ever to throw three touchdown passes in four

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Speaker 1: straight games, really, first player ever to do so. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of hard for me to believe. With the way

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Speaker 1: that the league is slanting toward passing. I wonder he

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Speaker 1: didn't say three or more. I wonder if it meant

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Speaker 1: exactly exactly, which could be the case, but I haven't

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Speaker 1: I mean, because if you throw four, you still throw three.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's true. That's that's just a good one.

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Speaker 1: That's outright shocking to me. Honestly, I was. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe that nobody'd ever I couldn't believe that nobody had

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Speaker 1: ever thrown for that much against Belichick, Like you think

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Speaker 1: about you know, Nick Foles went crazy in that Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: Like it's not like it's not like he's shut down

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Speaker 1: every quarterback he's ever played. They played Mahomes a couple

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Speaker 1: of times. You would have thought you and that that

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Speaker 1: includes playoffs too. I mean that, like every every game

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has been a part of. And what was

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Speaker 1: that four hundred and sixty five Dak Prescott is uh

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Speaker 1: I said it on Sunday. He's playing as well as

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Speaker 1: anyone in the NFL right now, without of doubt. Now,

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Speaker 1: I saw you say something on Twitter. I think it

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Speaker 1: was late Sunday night where you said, where did where

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Speaker 1: did that game rank compared to some of the other

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Speaker 1: ones that Dak has played? Where would you put it?

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Speaker 1: I just, you know, I meant to like make a ranking,

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Speaker 1: and I just didn't because it's the bye week and

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Speaker 1: I'm lazy. But I got a lot of I got

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Speaker 1: a lot of pushback on that. People were like, well,

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Speaker 1: he fumbled in the red zone and throw an interception,

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Speaker 1: Like what are you talking about? And like he's definitely

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Speaker 1: played cleaner games than that. Like he's played a ton

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Speaker 1: of games where like everything went right and they just

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Speaker 1: kicked ass. But I don't know, man, the the cajon

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Speaker 1: as of that performance really impressed me, Like to have

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Speaker 1: everything going against you the way that it was. They

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Speaker 1: ran the ball well, but not by their standards, so

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Speaker 1: like the run game was helping you, but not to

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Speaker 1: the degree that we've seen for the last month. And

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Speaker 1: then two really three because he got him into position

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Speaker 1: for the missed field goal with that scramble. So I

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Speaker 1: mean not talking trash on Greg's rline, but Dac did

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Speaker 1: everything he did was supposed to three drives at the

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Speaker 1: end of the game, does gets them into position all

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Speaker 1: three times missed field goal field goal to go to

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Speaker 1: overtime obviously wins it in the overtime period. I mean,

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Speaker 1: off the top of my head, without doing like a

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Speaker 1: ton of research about it, I just I thought it

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Speaker 1: was one of his like five or six most impressive

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Speaker 1: performances when you consider like everything across the breadth of

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Speaker 1: everything that happened in that wild game. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was one of his better games. I

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Speaker 1: love the counterpunching that went out there. You know, they

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Speaker 1: got stopped in fourth and one, they were able to

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Speaker 1: battle back and score again. And then he has the

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Speaker 1: early turnovers, but that's all right. They still fight, scratching

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Speaker 1: claude to find it somehow to find a victory out there.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, this guy he's doing everything right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's doing everything right. He's leading his team on and

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Speaker 1: off the field. It's not how you start, it's how

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Speaker 1: you finish. And the guy's playing extremely well right now.

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Speaker 1: And he's the bona fide leader of this team. I mean,

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Speaker 1: whatever he does out there, that's however good he does,

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Speaker 1: is how good this team is going to be. So

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Speaker 1: right now, he's playing at you know, full caliber. He's

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Speaker 1: in that elite conversation. I don't know if if you

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Speaker 1: could point at a game in terms of the all

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Speaker 1: encompassing mindset and the storylines and the back and forth

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Speaker 1: and the punch CounterPunch that we were just talking about

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Speaker 1: it kind of what Dave was saying. It wasn't a

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Speaker 1: clean game from Dak Prescott, but that might have been

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Speaker 1: the grittiest win of his career. I get that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a better way to say it. Yeah, just grit

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Speaker 1: and and like turnovers are gonna happen. Bad plays are

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Like just the way that he bounced back

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Speaker 1: from everything, I just I thought it was so impressive.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the patience that he had. There was a

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Speaker 1: his own goal line, and the way, like the way

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Speaker 1: that he maneuvered the pocket and just stepped up and

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Speaker 1: found the guy on the crossing route to get the

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Speaker 1: first down. Felt like he did that on every possession.

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Speaker 1: And just the confidence and the poise that he had.

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Speaker 1: The throw that he had to Cedric Wilson that eventually

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Speaker 1: got clawed out, you know, it didn't count touchdown, yeah,

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Speaker 1: which so many people on Twitter are like, well, we

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Speaker 1: threw it behind him, like's got to catch that. I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, you guys are nuts, and you gotta give

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Speaker 1: an all around amazing play because it was a great

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Speaker 1: play on his part. But my god, the placement on

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Speaker 1: that path as was the chef's kiss baby, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you could look at that, and there was

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Speaker 1: a perfect angle of it, that back cornerback pylon angle

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Speaker 1: where it was. It just showed dat kind of fitting

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Speaker 1: that one in a window. Oh man, that was such

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Speaker 1: a good throw. But yeah, so I've been looking at

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Speaker 1: it while we talk. I mean, you know, the beating

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Speaker 1: Seattle in the playoffs. Obviously a playoff win is gonna matter.

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Speaker 1: So that's up there. His game against both of his

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Speaker 1: overtime wins against the Eagles, he played incredible sixteen and

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Speaker 1: eighteen that Tampa Bay game. I mean, even though we lost,

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Speaker 1: played absolutely You're absolutely right that deserves mentioned as well.

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Speaker 1: I would absolutely put that in his like five best

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Speaker 1: performance as ever. That's awesome. That's awesome, and we've said

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Speaker 1: it on every show across the board since the start

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Speaker 1: of training camp. This is an offense that it's a

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Speaker 1: pick your poison. I mean, I feel like that could

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Speaker 1: be a buzzword around these areas, as pick poison, you'd

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Speaker 1: also say in the bag by Kellen Moore has also

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Speaker 1: been a buzzword. I mean, this offense is rolling. It's

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Speaker 1: the number one offense in the NFL terms of total yardage,

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Speaker 1: their second and scoring. I mean, this is a offense

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Speaker 1: that is on the money right now. But I want

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Speaker 1: to see if this was this the blueprint what Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick and the Patriots defense put out on the table.

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Speaker 1: I know they gave up four hundred and forty five yards,

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Speaker 1: but they slowed down the run at least compared to

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Speaker 1: what the run has been doing. They were they forced

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Speaker 1: to Dak Prescott to come and throw fifty one times.

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Speaker 1: They forced Dak Prescott to beat him, and they have

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Speaker 1: to throw for four hundred and forty five yards. So

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Speaker 1: I ask you, guys, is this the blueprint for teams

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Speaker 1: that will that the Cowboys will face the rest of

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Speaker 1: the season. Are they going to throw something similar at

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys? I'm not so shorter. There is a blueprint, man,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, we look at it and if I

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Speaker 1: preparing for this team. I mean, you gotta look at it.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, they did a decent job of slowing

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Speaker 1: down Pollard and Zeke J. C. Jackson did a good

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Speaker 1: job of slowing down Amari Cooper out there, he was

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Speaker 1: shadowing him. But then you still gotta deal with Cede Lamps,

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Speaker 1: he said Wilson, Noah Brown, Shultz, Jarwin. I mean, just

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Speaker 1: just so many options out there, and like I heard you,

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Speaker 1: death bat thousand cuts. I mean, it's like, how many

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Speaker 1: one thing, even if you take away their top two options,

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Speaker 1: whether it's pass, run, whatever you take away, they still

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Speaker 1: have so many more valuable options out there that can

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Speaker 1: beat you, whether it's one on one or in zone. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure that Bill Belichick did the blueprint,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not sure there is a blueprint out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that I have this right.

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Speaker 1: The blueprint to stopping this offense is giving up one

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Speaker 1: twenty two on the ground, four yards per carry from

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Speaker 1: both of your running backs, four hundred and forty five

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Speaker 1: in the air. Ye thirty five points. And I'll just

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Speaker 1: put the Homer hat on even harder and just point

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Speaker 1: out that they lost two turnovers in the end zone,

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Speaker 1: not just like not middle of the field, not like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you never know what could have happened. He got picked

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Speaker 1: in the end zone. He fumbled on the goal line.

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Speaker 1: Like if the Cowboys play a cleaner game, they I mean,

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Speaker 1: they should have one turnouns in their own should have

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Speaker 1: won this game. But yeah, on the opening drive. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so then let me ask you, this is the achilles

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Speaker 1: heel of this Cowboys offense? Is it the red zone?

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Speaker 1: And it's yes, it's just the red zone is an issue.

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Speaker 1: That's I feel comfortable saying that they were really good

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Speaker 1: these last three wins before New England. I think they

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Speaker 1: went nine of eleven down there, really good, really good. Um,

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Speaker 1: but when they've played good well, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if the Patriots are good, but when they've played stingier teams,

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Speaker 1: I would say they're good defense. Okay, Patriots, they're a

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Speaker 1: flawed team, but they're gonna be I mean, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be scrappy. I would imagine New England finishes somewhere near

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Speaker 1: five hundred um. And then obviously the Bucks two of

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Speaker 1: five in both of those games. It's gotta be better.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know one hundred percent the answer to it.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, they were two of five and those

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Speaker 1: two games combined. No, they were, well, they were four

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Speaker 1: of ten and those two ys Okay, sorry, okay, even

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Speaker 1: more so? Um wow. Yeah. No, it's been an issue,

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Speaker 1: and honestly, it's been an issue for most of Kellen

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Speaker 1: Moore's career. For all of the flowers we throw at

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Speaker 1: his feet, and deservedly so, but that has been a

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Speaker 1: consistent problem going back to twenty nineteen. The red zone

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Speaker 1: is definitely a little a little struggle, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's because of that condensed field. I mean, when you

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Speaker 1: get into that open field part of it, they can

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Speaker 1: they can stretch you out with all their different options,

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Speaker 1: get their guys the ball in space. But when you're

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Speaker 1: in the red zone, things happen so quick, and guys

679
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Speaker 1: know that, all right, they're gonna try to pound it

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Speaker 1: with Zeke's let's stack the box up with Zeke and

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Speaker 1: then even if you stop Zeke there, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: don't have a lot of room to pretty much do

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Speaker 1: your whole route trees out there. So guys are you know,

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Speaker 1: they're clamping down in the red zone. So I would

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Speaker 1: say that would be the only Achilles Hill maybe, you know.

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Speaker 1: I wonder and this is just me thinking out loud.

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Speaker 1: I just and there, I get it. They're so good

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Speaker 1: at running the ball, but I wonder if they're a

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Speaker 1: little over reliant on trying to big boy people down there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of what I was thinking. And you gotta

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Speaker 1: I mean you gotta be You gotta be perfect in

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Speaker 1: those situations. I mean, we just saw obviously Dak got stuffed.

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Speaker 1: We can all I mean, he looked like he got

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Speaker 1: in on third down. That is what it is. He

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00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: got stuffed. Josh Allen gets stuffed on Monday Night football,

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Speaker 1: which real like I my entire career. I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: if your quarterback is built like a linebacker, you need

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Speaker 1: to be sneaking on fourth and short. But the NFL

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Speaker 1: is a humbling league. Like even Josh Allen can get

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Speaker 1: denied on fourth and inches. So I like, I say, like,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be perfect in that situation. I'm thinking about

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Speaker 1: the option pitch to Zeke and Tampa. It's a walk in.

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Speaker 1: It's a walk in touchdown if Jarwin hits his block.

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Speaker 1: But because he doesn't, now you're you're dealing with a

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Speaker 1: tackle for loss. And like, those are the differences between

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Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns and not. And I just wonder maybe they

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Speaker 1: should try to like go empty down there more often.

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Speaker 1: Like you have web amout, you have weapons in the

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Speaker 1: passing game, spread people out, look for horizontal space instead

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Speaker 1: of vertical space. Like I said, I'm literally just going

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Speaker 1: off the dome. While we had to be able to

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Speaker 1: get a yard. We had to be able to I

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Speaker 1: hear you, But that's kind of my point is like

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Speaker 1: when everybody key he's on it, even a great running

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Speaker 1: game isn't always going to be successful. I just wonder

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Speaker 1: get my boy mc government fullback. Man. I thought we

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Speaker 1: were going to see it this week. Man, I thought

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Speaker 1: we were going to see it. There's there's gotta be

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Speaker 1: some tinkering that they can do, because when they get

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Speaker 1: into games against better opponents, the results speak for themselves.

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Speaker 1: I would agree, all right, let's take our second break.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, I want to continue this a

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Speaker 1: Derek gave me this idea yesterday we were talking yay

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Speaker 1: cutting into my proud stick man, proud older brother over here. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he got me into it. He's come so far from

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Speaker 1: the cover four days? Is that it was that you're dealing.

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Speaker 1: let's do it, let's do that. Let's do it, all right,

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Speaker 1: tell me about the break. I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: all the other ones else, the break is Grumpy were

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Speaker 1: harder than everybody. I don't know. Maybe we just don't.

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Speaker 1: We just don't have the same energy. But if you want, hey,

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Speaker 1: They know we know the most about the show or

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Speaker 1: at least the most amount of experience. You can't argue that.

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Speaker 1: I will give you that. Derek and Nick have been

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the hell that happened. Ye man, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: It is a great show. It was the original and

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Speaker 1: I think the second was talking Derek and talking was first.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Break. The break has been on since two thousand

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Speaker 1: and four. I know that because Derek said every day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was in the third Girl. Yeah, hell oh goodness,

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Speaker 1: I'm still young in the grand scheme of things. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm I'm getting to that point where

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Speaker 1: So all right, let's go ahead and step aside. That's

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Speaker 1: it for us. You're on Talking Cowboys for Barry Church,

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