1 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back at as the Late 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Kick Extra podcast. I'm Josh Pat Wall to Wall Q 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: and A. This morning, we're going all over the place. 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: This is the best kind of pod because this is 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: one where you guys gave me about eighty percent hardcore, 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: in depth college football questions, even though it's the blank 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: season right now, because we don't use the word off 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: in conjunction with the word season around here. 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: There are two separate words. They should never be joined. 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: Having said that, even though it's that time of year, 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: you guys have delivered with a lot of good questions 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: this morning. Eighty percent football, twenty percent other things that 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: we're going to tie loosely into football because it's a 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: really active week, and it's been a really active couple 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: of weeks. You guys have noticed, if you're listening and 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: if you're watching on the YouTube channel, we've been trying 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: some different things. It's not like any permanent change. I mean, 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: we've pretty well figured out what you guys like. We've 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: got a regular format obviously, but this time of year 20 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: we can try some different things out. I do want 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: to tell you, though, I've gotten a ton of really 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: good feedback from the late Kick Show Owners Association meeting 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: that we did. If you listen on the podcast form, 24 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: you heard the audio from that. If you watched on YouTube, 25 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: you saw the entire video. That was our first time 26 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: ever doing that. We did not do a trial run 27 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: Producer Jordan and I we just said let's go. 28 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: We teed it up. 29 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: I think we got somewhere between twenty and twenty five 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: of you in there. We had hundreds of submissions, and 31 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: so obviously we got to do more of those. I've 32 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: got a benchmark that I want to hit. It's different, 33 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: so stay tuned for that. It's a different one. I'm 34 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: gonna let you know when we're going to do one 35 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,639 Speaker 1: of those again based on this benchmark. But I'm saying 36 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: all this to tell you we figured a lot out 37 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: and that recording to where next time we're going to 38 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: have that thing streamlined. 39 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it was bad. I enjoyed it. 40 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: It was really good. We got a really good audio 41 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: and video product out of it. But I think the 42 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: next one we do will be that much better from 43 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: the learning experience we had there. So as we typically 44 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: like to do, you guys are included in every aspect 45 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: of this show, and that includes the live on the 46 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: fly formatting of the show. So thanks for that. That 47 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: was a really good success. It turned a lot of heads, 48 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: got a lot of good attention. Some attention is bad. 49 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: We got the good attention on this one. Item two 50 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: on this morning's agenda, Late Kick Merchandise is close, and 51 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm telling you we got some good stuff. I would 52 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: wear this, okay, And you know I only wear one 53 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: shirt a week, so even if I would change my 54 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: wardrobe to wear this stuff, it's legit. Here's what I 55 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: don't want to do. I've said this once before, I'm 56 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: gonna say it again. I'm not looking to rush anything. 57 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: We're not looking to put garbage products out there in 58 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: these itchy T shirts. I'm not looking to do that. 59 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: If we're going to put our stuff on it, it's 60 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: going to be quality. So you can rest assured. I'm 61 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: not putting anything out there until it is quality. When 62 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: it is, though, you guys are gonna like it. You 63 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: notice I've been a little bit quiet on that whole 64 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: Peate State situation. You know we were looking for a 65 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: mascot name. Well we've arrived at a mascot name. I'll 66 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: let you know in due time, because that bad boy 67 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: is going to be slapped on a T shirt and 68 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: it looks great. We already got some early designs on that. 69 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: It looks great. 70 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: If you were privy to the Late Kicks Showners' Association chat, 71 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: which only twenty two or twenty three of you were, 72 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: you got probably the most exclusive piece of information I've 73 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: given out to date on Lake Kick since I've been 74 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: at twenty four to seven, and that is the identity 75 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: the name of the mascot for a pet state. 76 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: You guys came through really good ones. 77 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: We had multiple people come with the submission that I 78 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: finally landed on. 79 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: Equally, if not slightly more. 80 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: Impressive, is the list of submissions that finished runner up 81 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: in third and fourth and fifth. We had some really 82 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: good ones. I mean, we got heavy, heavy interaction on that. 83 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: And the reason I'm holding off is because, like I 84 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: just said, I want to debut it when I'm ready 85 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: to put something in front of you that's tangible that 86 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: you can put your hands on, not just a name. 87 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: Let's see a third piece of business this morning before 88 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: we dive in. I really appreciate the feedback you gave 89 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: me on the chat that I had with Steve Wolfong 90 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: and Brandon Huffman. That was the Late Kick Live for 91 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: Sunday Night right now, because we now have a full 92 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: production team that works on the Late Kick Live episodes. 93 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean, guys, a full production team that you are 94 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: doing as well. They're up in Connecticut, well they are 95 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: with CBS, and they are obviously knee deep in March 96 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Madness coverage right now. So we're having to move our 97 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: broadcast schedule around a little bit. And since I knew 98 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: that last show would be pre recorded, I said, you 99 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: know what, let's take something that a lot of you 100 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: have asked me for, and let's get Wilfong and let's 101 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: get Huffman on here, and let's do just this in 102 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: incredibly deep dive behind the scenes of the world of recruiting. 103 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: I think we only scratch the surface on what we 104 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: could really talk about. But I always know when I'm 105 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: recording with Will Pump or when I'm talking to these guys, 106 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: I always get to witness a lot of things that 107 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: I know you guys would just be like frothing at 108 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: the mouth to be able to see or hear. 109 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: So I wanted to bring you a little sample size 110 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: of that. 111 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: And we got really good feedback on that some people, 112 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: and I understand this. You may see an in depth 113 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: recruiting conversation and you may tune out. 114 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: You may not be interested in that. 115 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: That's okay. What I tried to do with it, and 116 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: I think we did a pretty good job of it, 117 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: is I did not tailor it to the strictly hardcore 118 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: checking the player rankings five times a day recruiting fan. 119 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we tailored it to them. 120 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: But also I tried to give it a more casual 121 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: flavor to where it had more broad mass appeal because 122 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: I got a lot of compliments from people who told 123 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: me readily, I don't really follow recruiting all that much, 124 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: but I found this interesting. And for the record, when 125 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: we talk gambling on this show during the season, yeah, 126 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean we give out picks and we do this 127 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: and that. But I try and talk about wagering in 128 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: a way that appeals to another really large portion of 129 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: the art audience that does not bet a cent on sports. 130 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: There are a lot of you out there. 131 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: You never bet on sports, but yet you may be 132 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: fascinated by the odds making process. Well, I mean that 133 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: just means it's my job to put out a product. 134 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: That's every bit is appealing to you as it is 135 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: to the guy who's living and dying on whether I 136 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: have a strong lean on the first half total in the. 137 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: Purdue Indiana game Saturday night. 138 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: So I think we've got all of our orders of 139 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: business out of the way with that, let's dive in 140 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: this morning. We got a number of questions. Let's rattle 141 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: through these. First up, as Charlie, Charlie says, which team 142 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: do you believe is capable of making the jump up 143 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: and becoming the next true powerhouse of college football just 144 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: like Clemson did five or so years ago. Charlie, I 145 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: don't know. If I see a Clemson on the horizon, 146 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: you know that's imminent in their rise. But then again, 147 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: that's part of it. We didn't really see Clemson coming either. 148 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: I would say Texas, A and M off the top 149 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: of my head, Oklahoma, Georgia, all of these are programs 150 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: that are fully capable of it, yet they. 151 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: Haven't done it. 152 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: They haven't won a championship yet, at least in the 153 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: modern modern era like we're talking about right now. I 154 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: didn't think all of these speak for themselves. I don't 155 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: think any of those names when I listed them make 156 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: you go, huh, how could Oklahoma do it? Oh, Oklahoma's 157 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: there every year. I mean, they're winning eleven or twelve 158 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: games every year. It's just that you got the big 159 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: boys in their way still. You know my feelings on Oklahoma. 160 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: I feel like they're probably not just the most top 161 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: to bottom talented product coming this year that Lincoln Riley 162 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: has had. 163 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: I also think they're the most balanced product. 164 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: You're not going up against Oklahoma again in a playoff 165 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: game and hanging sixty on them because they can't get 166 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 1: off the field. 167 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: They can't make a stop to save their lives. 168 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: You may beat them, but I don't think you're going 169 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: to beat them in the same way. So they're formidable. 170 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: I mean, George has already been to overtime of a 171 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: national championship game. In Kirby Smart's tenure, they're a contender 172 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: every year. They've got a loaded roster every year. And 173 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: then the third one that I mentioned was Texas, A 174 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: and M. Not in that order necessarily, but I think 175 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: maybe people will take the most new word alert umbridge 176 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: with me saying Texas, A and M. It's the same 177 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: new word alert part two umbridge that they take when 178 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: I say Texas A and M is one of the 179 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: five or six best jobs in America. I don't hesitate 180 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: to say that, but I know a lot of people 181 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: third time umbrage with that because they just haven't seen 182 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: it happen. There By it, I mean results, and I 183 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: think some of you, I don't have a problem with this, 184 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I just different opinion. I think some of you have 185 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: to see the results before you'll believe it's possible. To me, 186 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: there's no skill in that. To me, the skill is 187 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: seeing around the corner, seeing things, being able to picture 188 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: things and envision things happening before they actually occur. So 189 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: with Texas A and M, yeah, if they won a 190 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: national championship, it wait to be a shock to a 191 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: lot of people, Aggie fans included. But I don't think 192 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: the shock should be in that you never thought it 193 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: was possible. Maybe the shock is that, well, you didn't 194 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: see it. Now you've seen it, but thinking it's possible. 195 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean, what in the world do they lack out there? 196 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: They lack quarterback. That's what they lack. It's not hard. 197 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if they've got a star quarterback out there, 198 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: if they had, since we're talking Clemson, if they had 199 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: a Trevor Lawrence walking the door, if they had a 200 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson walk in the door. 201 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: A and M's an immediate national championship contender. And that's 202 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: even existing in Alabama's division. Existing in the SEC, they're 203 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: still a championship contender. So all of those I think 204 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: fit that description. Charlie, I think the one off the 205 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: radar orgon pending Ty Thompson's development as an incoming quarterback, 206 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: Oregon would be interesting because they would potentially set themselves 207 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: up to be a West Coast version of Clemson. Let's 208 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: say Clemson, in your eyes and mine, was a program 209 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: that exploded at the exact same time. 210 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: The ACC was very watered down, so you and I 211 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: watched them for a while be able to gear up 212 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: and sort of use their conference schedule as glorified practices 213 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: to get ready to peak at the right time. Well, 214 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: what if the PAC twelve never collectively rises to the 215 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: level that Oregon is rising to. I mean, the roster 216 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: is loaded and becoming more loaded with every elite recruiting 217 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: class they've got presumably quarterback in there. Now, what if 218 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: they explode out there, but the rest of the PAC 219 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: twelve doesn't and what if we watch Oregon on the 220 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: West coast? Just lay waste to the Pac twelve like 221 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: Clemson has done for a number of years, with isolated 222 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: exceptions obviously in the ACC. So those are I guess 223 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: the four. I would go with Georgia, Oklahoma, A, and 224 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: m Oregon in no particular order. Charlie had a follow 225 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: up here he said, which southern town or city would 226 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: you recommend to visit on a Saturday after noon for 227 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: a college football game? Charlie, this is a totally unfair question, 228 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: because there's no way I'm giving you one. Athens comes 229 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: highly recommended, Auburn comes highly recommended. If you're a diehard 230 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: college football fan and you've never been to Tuscaloosa, Alabama 231 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: on a big Saturday game day, go go. I don't 232 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: care if you're pulling for anyone who's there. Go to 233 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: a game. Be in Tuscaloosa for a big Saturday game. 234 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: Like when LSU rolls in there, it's like a sensory overload. 235 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: The color patterns, the crimson and white, it's awesome. I 236 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: think their stadium architecturally from the outside, is the best 237 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: looking stadium in the SEC. I think they've done a 238 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: great job on those two end zone upgrades over the 239 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: past ten to fifteen years or so. But I'll also 240 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: say this, there are a lot of places where the 241 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: city shuts down and or revolves around the University. 242 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: Alabama is that. Tuscaloosa is that. 243 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: But also it's like being in a snow globe and 244 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: someone shakes up the snow globe, except instead of snow, 245 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: it's just history and pageantry and tradition. No one has 246 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: to say it. You just feel it, you just see 247 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: it everywhere. It's just college football being done at the 248 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: highest level possible. I've been to LSU quite a few times, 249 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: been treated as well down there as I've been treated anywhere. 250 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: Love LSU. I have a soft spot. 251 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: In my heart for South Carolina only because they have 252 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: train cars outside the stadium. The Cockaboos, that's what it's called. 253 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: I didn't make that up. It's a beautiful name, by 254 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: the way. But anytime you can feature real life rail 255 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: cars right outside your stadium, I don't care if you're 256 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: zero to twelve, I'm putting you on the list. But look, 257 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: I got to stress this is not an exhaustive list, 258 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: because I could do truth be told about A two 259 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: and a half or three hour podcast just on experiences 260 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: on game days at these different places. I mean, there 261 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: is not a bad stop in the SEC. They've got 262 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: tailgating and pregame and atmosphere down to a science. The 263 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: one place I have not been that I have a 264 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: sneaking suspicion is going to really impress me if and 265 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: when I finally get up there is Arkansas. 266 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: I've not been to a game at Arkansas. 267 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: I finally got Texas A and M off the list 268 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: two years ago, blew me away, and I really think 269 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: Arkansas would be awesome too. So I've got a lot 270 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: of places still to go. I've been a lot of places. 271 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Got to get up to the big town lot. I 272 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: know this question was about the South, but it's so great. 273 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: Man's why I keep going back to being so aggravated 274 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: when we get into the playoff conversation and it extends 275 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: then to this whole tripe about how we need to 276 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: be more like the NFL, this and that needs to 277 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: be more like the NFL. 278 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: No, don't. 279 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: In fact, if I were the rest of the sporting community, 280 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: I look at what college football atmospheres were like, especially 281 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: if you were fortunate enough and blessed enough to be 282 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: able to travel and be around these places on a 283 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: game day. If I were the rest of the sporting world, 284 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: I'd be looking to duplicate that, not be ignorant enough 285 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: to be inside the college football bubble looking out and 286 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: saying we need to be more like the outside world. 287 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: No, no, you don't. 288 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: You got a very special thing going if you're a 289 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: big time college football fan, don't trade it for anything. 290 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: Next up is Michelle with a very important question. She 291 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: just says, you chasing Wednesday. Most of you would have 292 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: no clue what that means. I know good and well 293 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: what it means, Michelle. Yes, my storm chasing team out 294 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: of Columbus and Auburn is already geared up. 295 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: There is a big severe weather. 296 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: Outbreak by the way coming for you guys and missus 297 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: at the Alabama probably western portions of Tennessee too, So 298 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: be very on guard Wednesday. You can't say you didn't 299 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: have a warning, because I'm giving it to you right 300 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: here on the Late Kick Extra podcast. 301 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, Michelle, we. 302 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: Are headed down probably tomorrow night, Tuesday night, and I 303 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: will be staging either just in Columbus or maybe in 304 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: Montgomery Demopolis, Alabama. Jackson, Mississippi. Those are cities that we 305 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: have circled to probably stage. For those of you who 306 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm talking about, I'm on a storm 307 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: chasing team. We've done it several years. The rotation has 308 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: changed a bit, but the core of our guys have 309 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: always been there. So we're expecting a long, active, very 310 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: dangerous day on Wednesday. Those STPs, those significant tornado parameters 311 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: really really spiking. So kind of a catch twenty two 312 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: cause the human side of me and the property owner 313 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,239 Speaker 1: side of me hates to see it. However, the atmospheric 314 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: science nerd side of me loves to see it, so 315 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: we will be out. Michelle, Yes, so keep an eye 316 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: on my Twitter, accounter Instagram. You never know what in 317 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: the world you could see. And Lord Willing, I'll be 318 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: back Thursday morning here with some good stories. But if 319 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: you don't hear from me Thursday morning, you know that 320 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: it was a late late night and that very well 321 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: could happen. Seawaters is up next, he says. With the 322 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: talk about top programs lately, it sort of sounded to 323 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: me like you had Oklahoma listed ahead of Georgia, and 324 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: I was just wondering why Georgia's recruited better, they have 325 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: a playoff win over Oklahoma, no less. Plus when Georgia 326 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: has lost, it's been to more talented teams like Bama 327 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: or Florida, whereas Oklahoma last year lost to Iowa State 328 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: and Kansas State. Yeah, I don't really have them above Oklahoma. 329 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: I have those programs as comparable. I think what this 330 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: is stemming from is the talk that I sometimes do 331 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: about Tier one programs. So Bama's there, Ohio State's there, 332 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: Clemson's there, I consider Oklahoma there, I consider Georgia there. Really, 333 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: the fairer way to do this is just to give 334 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: Bama their own tier and then talk about all the 335 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: other programs in the sub tier. I mean, if we're 336 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: putting them all in Tier one, you've got to differentiate Alabama. 337 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they're on their own level. And then if 338 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: you want to put Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia, Oklahoma, if 339 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: you want to put them all there, I have no 340 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: problem with that. If you want to argue with me 341 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: that Clemsons should have priority cause they've won a couple 342 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: of titles, fine with that too. The point is they're 343 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: all in the conversation, Like when these teams are on 344 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: the field with each other. The point spread is single digits, 345 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: so they're all comparable. And I said, you know, I 346 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: sound a little madder than I am. 347 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. I need to calm down a little 348 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: bit here. 349 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: But my point Seawaters there is I don't have them 350 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: listed above. If you wanted to argue Oklahoma's better because 351 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: you think Lincoln Riley's a better head coach, and from 352 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: this point moving forward, since they figured out quarterback more 353 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: and now defensively they look pretty sound, they're a better 354 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: program than Georgia. I wouldn't argue with that. If you 355 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: were to come back to me and say, Okay, they 356 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: still got to prove it. Georgia's got the head to 357 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: head win, and until Oklahoma's won a playoff game, Georgia 358 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: should get the NOD. 359 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. 360 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: The point is they're comparable, and if they played tomorrow, 361 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: point spread would be four or five points either way. 362 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: A good little side bet though. I mean, if you 363 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: had to bet your next year's salary on this, who 364 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: would you have winning a national championship first owe you 365 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: under Riley or Georgia under Smart Just think on that, 366 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: just let it sizzle Justin Up next, he asks, am 367 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: I out of touch and believing the NILS being drafted 368 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: including no compensation from the schools or conference. I understood 369 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: it to be student athletes would just be able to 370 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: receive payment from outside services, nothing to do with TV rights, 371 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: et cetera. So here's what Justin's asking with name, image 372 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: and likeness legislation coming up, it's going to go through eventually. 373 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: What is supposed to happen is me, a player, a 374 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: four star wide receiver playing from Miami. I'm supposed to 375 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: be able to, you know, sign an endorsement deal, to 376 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: advertise for a local insurance company, or I'm supposed to 377 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: be able to go do an autograph session. I'm supposed 378 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: to be able to do those things. But Justin is right, Justin, 379 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: you are right in theory, and I want you to 380 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: notice the emphasis on in theory. You are right that 381 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: this stuff this money. So these payments, this revenue, this 382 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: compensation to a player, it can't come from the school, 383 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: and it can't come from TV rights packages. That's not 384 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: where it's coming from. So this is strictly a player 385 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: being able to earn off of his own name, image, likeness, 386 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: et cetera. Now, justin, here's where the pretzel really starts 387 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: to form. 388 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: Case. 389 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: Now, picture yourself as a head coach or a booster 390 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: who's looking to get ahead, and you're looking for any 391 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: angle you can. Let's say you are a booster of 392 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: ex University, and that's the rules. Them's the rules they 393 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: just gave you. And they're telling you, Nope, you can't 394 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: just be paying this kid to come to that school. 395 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: But what you can do is you can pay them 396 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: for an autograph session. Okay, I mean you you put 397 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: together one and one there, and what is it equal? 398 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: Well, it equals me taking the money i'd hand you 399 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: in a sack and just saying never mind, never mind kid, Hey, justin, 400 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: four star receiver, justin, come over here. I'm gonna pay you. 401 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: Let's see what's the market rate? 402 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: Off, forget it. I'm gonna pay you eighty grand to 403 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: do this autograph signing here. What's that you say there's 404 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: a limit? You say there's a cap on how much 405 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: I can pay you. Okay, Justin, I'm gonna give you 406 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: ten grand, and then I'm gonna find ten more of 407 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: your closest friends and I'm gonna give them all ten grand. 408 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: They know where that ten grand is supposed to end up. 409 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: This is the pretzel. Justin, how in the world do 410 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: we legislate this? And I want you to remember all 411 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: the while we are trusting a governing body and Inapolis, 412 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: Indiana that cannot take a leak without getting the front 413 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: of its pants wet. So how are we legislating this? 414 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: And then secondly, you can write rules all day long, 415 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: how are you enforcing those rules? So, justin, what you 416 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: said is technically true, thus the emphasis Technically you're right 417 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: when you say yeah, nil is just what it says. 418 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: It is name, image and likeness. The TV money shouldn't matter. 419 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: The yearly revenues from the school shouldn't matter. No, it 420 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: shouldn't matter. But now we pause, Justin, and you and 421 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: I look at each other in the eye, and you 422 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: wink and then I wink, and then you nod and 423 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: I nod, and we all get why. 424 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: This is going to be so complicated? Oh, moving on? 425 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: Canvas is up next, Candace says, I want you to 426 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: assume I have your taste in music. What's a song 427 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: you would bet one hundred dollars I've never heard? And 428 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: another one hundred dollars I like Candace. I got one 429 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: I was just listening to when I left the office today. Again, 430 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: the assumption here is that you've never heard this song. 431 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: You have my taste in music, and I'm betting a 432 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: hundred bucks you'll like it. The song is called Savannah 433 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: fare You Well. It's by Jimmy Buffett. I'm not the 434 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: biggest Jimmy Buffett fan in the world. This song sounds 435 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: unlike any Jimmy Buffett song I've ever heard. Savannah Fair 436 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: You Well. It's really haunting, it's really well written lyrically, 437 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the music's top notch. Jimmy Buffett can afford 438 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: such things. So Savannah Fair You Well is a good one, 439 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: and also probably one that you would not picture me 440 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: listening to. I had a buddy the other day ask me, Hey, 441 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: what's the song you listened to that no one in 442 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: a million years would guess you listened to. I love 443 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: the song Lonely Weekend by Casey Musgraves. I love a 444 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: few of her songs, actually, but Lonely Weekend is great. 445 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: I heard it one day, ironically leaving the twenty four 446 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: to seven sports offices. Now, this was back when we 447 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: could still be in there so it was this time 448 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: last year Lonely Weekend by Casey musk Graves and Savannah 449 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: Fair you Well by Jimmy Buffett Candice. 450 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: Those are my two recommendations. 451 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: And if you're looking for a third, in the spirit 452 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 1: of storm chasing, which I'll be doing this week straight 453 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: off the Twister soundtrack, it's not Fleetwood Mac, it's Lindsey 454 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: Buckingham and Stevie Nicks. The song is called Twisted excellent 455 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: duet there. It is about sort of the marriage metaphorically 456 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: of relationship and storms beautifully done. Moving on Ben, you know, 457 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: Ben actually has a question eerily similar to a question 458 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: Seo Ducks asked me, And it's just about all the 459 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: uncomfortableness and the turmoil and the upheaval in the West, 460 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve. How don't know were we going to 461 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: fix all this? Well, I got a very simple plan. 462 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to share it with you when we come back. 463 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: So the combination from Ben and Seo Ducks here was essentially, 464 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: if the PAC twelve continues to deteriorate and the AAC 465 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: takes its place, could USC and Oregon eventually be looked 466 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: at as similar to SINC and UCF and Memphis that 467 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: no matter if they go undefeated, people won't let him 468 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: in the playoff. The answer to that, Ben is yes, 469 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: that's a scary proposition. What Ben is essentially asking is 470 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: if the product erodes to the point where they're no 471 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: longer looked at as a Power five quality product, even 472 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: though technically from a TV money perspective they are, and 473 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: from a college football playoff seat at the table perspective 474 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: they are. If the product loses what little remaining credibility 475 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: it has on the national stage, what separates their undefeated 476 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: conference champ from being treated like let's say Cincinnati this 477 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: last year. 478 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: The answer, Ben is nothing, And. 479 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: In fact, I think that is the aac's best temporary shot. 480 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: You can talk about conference expansion, you can talk about 481 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: all these things long term. I think short term, that's 482 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: what I'd be angling at. I'd be shouting from every 483 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: mountaintop and putting billboards up in every major city I could, 484 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: and I would be spreading the message if I were 485 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: the AAC, that you can keep your Power five label. 486 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: Just understand we are part of the Power five. 487 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 2: Now we've got a superior product to the folks out 488 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: there on the West Coast. Their loss is our gain. 489 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: So Ben, you are right in having that fear. And 490 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: then Seo Ducks kind of asked the follow up. He said, 491 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: do you think for the PAC twelve it's more important 492 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: to hire a great president commissioner or do you think 493 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: it's more important for a team like Oregon or a 494 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: USC to become nationally relevant as breaching that tier one 495 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: group for the conference to gain back respect across the 496 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: country would be paramount Well, therein lies the problem. So yes, 497 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: the short ant would be if Oregon really pops, I 498 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: mean and they start to put up dominant seasons every year, 499 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: that would. 500 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: Be great for Oregon. It would be great. 501 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: It would gain notoriety for Oregon. I don't really think 502 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: many people would correlate that to okay, here comes in 503 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve, No more than they've really correlated Cumson's 504 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: rise to that being a rise of the A C C. 505 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: And so if I were to look at it, I 506 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't ask about an either or I would ask for both. 507 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: I would need Oregon and USC to be a perennial 508 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: top ten at least a top ten caliber product. 509 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: Any given year you could explode. 510 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: And you could be number one or number two, maybe 511 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: your number eight next year, But just give me a 512 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: consistent top ten product and then let the rest of 513 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: the conference chase you. Let's see what Arizona State can do, 514 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: Let's see if you CLA can get their act together. 515 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: What's Jimmy Lake gonna do at Washington? 516 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: But right now, what are you chasing out there? Even 517 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: with Oregon looking as impressive as they have, they haven't 518 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: firmly planted that flag yet. It's still too early to 519 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: know that. I can think it, but it's still too 520 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: early to know it. So these are two really good questions. 521 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: I think the most important thing there to answer The 522 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: second question is, yeah, you got to get you a 523 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: good commissioner, but that really bleeds into what are you 524 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: gonna do with your TV deal? That's really what that 525 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: bleeds into. And I know right now there's a lot 526 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: of attention on oh, the SEC is going with ABC 527 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: and Disney and ESPN, and let's see where the Big 528 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: ten's next TV contract takes it. I think right now 529 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: there are some who still think in terms of big, 530 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: traditional or legacy networks, that's not what the next round 531 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: of TV deals is going to look like, especially for 532 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve. Your next round of TV deals isn't 533 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: CBS versus Fox versus ABC. Your next round of TV 534 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: deals includes names like Amazon at the table in fact, 535 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: in the media rights sphere right now kind of listening 536 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 1: to some of this stuff behind the scenes. That's what 537 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: everyone's angling for anyway. Everyone wants to build a product 538 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: and create enough brand flexibility to where they can seamlessly 539 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: transition from traditional legacy media to new age digital platforms 540 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: like Amazon, Netflix, et cetera. 541 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: Right now. 542 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think you may look at Netflix. Let's 543 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: just pick them out of a lineup and say, Netflix, 544 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: that's the place I go where I want to watch 545 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: movies and TV shows. Well, that's what it is right now. 546 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: Instagram when it was first up, was a place where 547 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: your sister and your girlfriend went to share recipes. 548 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 2: Well what is Instagram now? You know? 549 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: So these platforms evolve and what they are right now 550 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: versus what they'll be next time. It's time to negotiate 551 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: a TV rights deal in five years, ten years, twelve years, 552 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, especially considering there are going 553 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: to be other players in that arena that don't exist yet. 554 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: That's the way to think about this, and that's the 555 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: sort of forward thinking mentality. Whoever ends up being the 556 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: next commissioner out there has to have. Let's roll on here. 557 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: Josh is up next. He says, have you ever hurt 558 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: or injured yourself celebrating something that happened in sports? 559 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: Oh? Boy, let me just this is going to be 560 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: tough for me. Oh, let me finish the question first. 561 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: Josh says, I ask this because a few years ago, 562 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: when Florida threw that last second Hail Mary touchdown against Tennessee, 563 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: my immediate reaction was to jump up and cheer, and 564 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: in the process of doing so, I pulled my hamstring. 565 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: A follow up question, if you have done so, was 566 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: it worth it for me? 567 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 2: It was? 568 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: It sucks man, Oh, this answer sucks so bad. So yes, 569 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: I have done it, and it was far less consequential. 570 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: There was no national television audience. When my senior year 571 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: of baseball was approaching at Harris County High School, we 572 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: were doing conditioning probably January. So it's freezing, which explains 573 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: what I was wearing in a second, and that's germane 574 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: to the story. So we're up on the football field 575 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: doing conditioning. I hate conditioning, hate it, and I'm not 576 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: saying anyone loves it, but I hate it disproportionate to 577 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: the next closest person who hates it. Hated conditioning largely 578 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: thought it was used more as a filtration process in 579 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: baseball than an actual reason to get you in shape, 580 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: because I would always watch TV and I'd say, coach 581 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: Bartolo Cologne is a major League baseball player. I don't 582 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: need a six pack. It's great if I have one. 583 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: Don't need one to play this game. I understand what 584 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: conditioning is really used for. Its It's no different than 585 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: three days in football. So we're up there on football 586 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: field doing conditioning. It's cold, I'm wearing receivers gloves. I'm 587 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: wearing football receiver's gloves. Now, one thing about me, you 588 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: should know. As much as I hate a conditioning I 589 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: could jump out of a gym. I'd been able to 590 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: dunk a basketball since I was a sophomore in high 591 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: school and I didn't play basketball. Still to this day, 592 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: I don't really care if basketball all that. 593 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: Much, but I had the ability to do that. 594 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: I could flat foot dunk under the goal, didn't even 595 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: need a running jump or anything like that. So I 596 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: would deek people into betting me money that I could 597 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: not dunk a football over the goal post. In reality, 598 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: I could do it with ease, but I would hustle 599 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: them essentially. 600 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 2: So I get a guy up. 601 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: To about twenty or twenty five dollars, which I mean 602 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: was borderline wealth for us in Harris County at that point, 603 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: and so I dunked the baseball. 604 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: It wasn't even a football. 605 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Is a baseball that I dunked over the goal post 606 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: And I used to like to add emphasis, so I'd 607 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: hang on that goal post. Well I didn't mean to hang, Okay, 608 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: I kind of got my body and my mind went 609 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: two different directions. 610 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: And it's freezing coal. 611 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: So remember I'm wearing those tacky sticky receiver gloves. So 612 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: I decide with one arm to let go, and with 613 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: another arm, for some reason it just out of muscle memory, 614 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: decide it wants to hang onto the goalpost. Well, the 615 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: problem is I didn't embrace my body for it, and 616 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: so I did my hand stuck that glove did exactly 617 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: what it was intended to do. It stuck to the 618 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: surface it was touching, and so my full body weight 619 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: pulls down on my shoulder. Tear's my rotator cuff. There 620 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: goes my senior season. I did get the twenty five dollars. 621 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: I do want to stress that it did not cover 622 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: medical bills fully, but I did get the twenty five dollars. 623 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: But the trade off was I had to DH my 624 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 2: entire senior year. 625 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: I won the batting title at Harris County that year, 626 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: which I very well should have because I had nothing 627 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: else to do. I didn't see a single inning of defense. Also, 628 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: one other thing that happened that I just now remembered, 629 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: but I don't think it was in celebration. I gave 630 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: myself a sports hernia during Power Clean Max Day in 631 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: the Harris County High School weight room. And to be 632 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: perfectly honest with you, I did not know at the 633 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: time what a hernia was. All I knew was it 634 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: looked like someone had lodged a golf ball under my skin, 635 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: right below my abdomen. And so if you've ever had 636 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: a hernia, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, 637 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: here's the thing about a hernia. If you have not 638 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: eaten breakfast yet, stay tuned in. If you're eating it 639 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: right now, you might want to skip. I had about 640 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: thirty seconds. The thing about a hernia is it's just 641 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: muscle that is torn through the lining of your stomach. 642 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: Essentially, Well, you can push it back in because where 643 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 2: the tear is that it came out, you can push 644 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: it back in. Well. I was terrified a surgery to 645 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: this day. This is the only surgery I've ever had 646 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: to have. 647 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: I eventually got it operated on, but I went that 648 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: senior year without having it operated on, and when it 649 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: popped out, I just push it back in, you know, 650 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: kind of a scenario, not with the sound effect. I 651 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: just wanted to put that in for reference, but I 652 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: had that and I had an ingrown toenail. It was 653 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: hideous looking my senior year and the torn rotator cuff. 654 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: So we got the torn cuff, we got the ingrown toenail, 655 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: we got the hernia, and we still took home that 656 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: batting title. It's not really a happy ending, though, because 657 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: I got to say this or else. Fifteen people will 658 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: remind me when they listen to this. I did k 659 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: to end our playoff run against Crisp County. Does a 660 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: kid named Duane Farmer still remember the name who pitched 661 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: for them down there shut us down? 662 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: And yeah, struck out to end our season and to 663 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 2: end my high school career. 664 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: So yeah, batting tie did not matter one io to 665 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: that afternoon. Let's move it along in a pretty sad 666 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: mood now, so let's move it along. Brent sounds fatter 667 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: than myself, he said, After all that has happened around 668 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee lately, the opinion of our program is pretty low. 669 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: I have even gotten in a few arguments with my 670 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: fellow fans about this. Do you think the public opinion 671 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: matches what is actually capable of happening around this program? 672 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 2: The answer, Brent is no. 673 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: People think Tennessee's time and capability of competing at the 674 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: national level is passed. I think that's laughable. I don't 675 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: think they're anywhere close to capable of it right now. 676 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that. I don't think they're close to 677 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: ready to do it. They are not properly positioned to 678 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: do it. But that's just because of poor hire after 679 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: poor higher after poor higher. I mean, let's just put 680 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: it this way. Okay, this is an extreme example. If 681 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley or Ryan Day or Nick Saban, if they 682 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: were to go to Tennessee today, do we honestly think 683 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee would still be mired in five hundred or worse 684 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: football for the next decade. 685 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: The answer is, of course not. The right coach there 686 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: would turn it around. They would recruit at a high 687 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: level the region, they would recruit at a national level. 688 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: Nothing has changed about the capability there. Obviously, the fan 689 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: buy in is still there. Financially, they wouldn't be taking 690 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: some back seat to where they had to nickel and 691 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: dime their way to hopefully competing every third or fourth 692 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: year in the East. They have not had the right 693 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: head coach. It's as simple as that. Get the right 694 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: head coach in there, and everything else will take care 695 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: of itself. Let's wrap it up with Matthew this morning. 696 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: He asks, could you talk about the wild career of 697 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: Jimmy Sexton. Why does literally every coach have him as 698 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: their agent? Matthew, It's just because he's the best, and 699 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: the guy is the best at playing the game. He 700 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: is the best at maximizing the earnings potential and value 701 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: and probably even overinflating the market value on a lot 702 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: of his candidates. If you have time, just google Jimmy Sexton, 703 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: go read the stories. I mean, I think he was 704 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: roommates with Reggie White back in the day. I think 705 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: he went to Tennessee. He was roommates with Reggie White, 706 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: ended up representing him. That's where he got his big break. 707 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you this now, he pounds the pavement 708 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: for his dudes. You don't see on TV ever, but 709 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: we see him all the time if you're covering games. 710 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: So I'll be at the biggest games in the country, 711 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: normally a lot in the SEC. And he is Saban's guy, 712 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: he was Malsan's Guy's Kirby's guy, Jimbo. I mean, he's 713 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: got him all pretty much. He's got them all, and 714 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: so you'll see him. He'll be right there. 715 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: I remember when's probably the last time I would have 716 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 1: seen him, Well, it was the National title game, but 717 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: before that, I remember it was rain and when Texas 718 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: A and M played in Athens. They played Georgia a 719 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. And you stand at the top 720 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: of a ramp. The way the visiting team comes into 721 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: Sanford Stadium is buses pull up and then there's. 722 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: This really steep ramp, it's like pro wrestling ramp. 723 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: And they walk down it's concrete, gotta be careful you 724 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: don't slip, and there's Jimmy Sexton standing up there in 725 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: the rain. Guy's got the net worth of a small country. 726 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: And he's standing right there, right next to me in 727 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: the rain, waiting for Jimbo Fisher to pull up, and 728 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: he just shakes his hand, gets off the bus, wishes 729 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: him good luck, and Jimmy Sexton's work well, for all 730 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: I know, is done. 731 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: For the day. 732 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: No, in reality, the work there never stops. But what 733 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: happened Matthew is he developed rapport and word gets around 734 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: really quick in this industry. And here's the other thing. 735 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: You know, if you're an up and coming coach, not 736 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: only do you know Jimmy Sexton, he can get you 737 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: a lot of money. 738 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: You know about the networking. 739 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: You know about the kind of work he does, because 740 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: you've watched your peers and you've listened to word of mouth. 741 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: The coaching fraternity is one of the most closely knit 742 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: communities and fraternities that you will ever come across. It's 743 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: like Skull and Bones, but with a football instead of 744 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: something far more sinister. And these guys cannot even stumble 745 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: upon a great squash casserole recipe without passing it around 746 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: to their entire network. So if they find the right agent, 747 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: you better believe they're passing that word of mouth along 748 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: to everyone else in their network. All right, before you go, 749 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: don't turn it off quite yet. I know I promised 750 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: you something at the beginning. Here is the next benchmark 751 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: we're going for. As soon as we hit this benchmark, 752 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: we will immediately start to schedule the next Late Kicks 753 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Show Owners Association meeting. Last time it was let's get 754 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: over thirteen thousand on Twitter. This time I'm sending you 755 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: to a different platform. I've been talking to some of 756 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: you and I have listened, so it's time to grow 757 00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: this Instagram audience. 758 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: You can find me on there. Late Kick Josh is 759 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: the account. 760 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, my name is normal Josh Pate, but the 761 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: account is at late kick Josh. 762 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: Find me on Instagram. Give me a follow there. I 763 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: am at let's see. 764 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never taken Instagram all that seriously, So 765 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: it's like fifteen hundred and fifteen. Let's get that thing 766 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: to two thousand, and we will schedule our next Late 767 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: Kickshow Owners Association meeting. Late Kick Josh on Instagram, look 768 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: it up. 769 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: Make it happen. 770 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to the Late Kick 771 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: Extra podcast this Tuesday morning. 772 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: For producer Jordan. I'm Josh Paate. 773 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: Have a great rest of your day and God bless