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Speaker 1: Hello, They're happy Thursday, and welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the Chuck Podcast. So this is my Thursday episode, so

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Speaker 1: you know what that means. I got a little college

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Speaker 1: football at the end, but I do want to start

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Speaker 1: with an interesting observation I got from a one of

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Speaker 1: my I Over the years i've created all I've many

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Speaker 1: political journalists. Any journalists, politic, politics, sports, whatever, you develop

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Speaker 1: pen piles, meaning you get just people, listeners, viewers, readers

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Speaker 1: will write in and and most journalists are like myself.

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Speaker 1: If it's a if it's a if it's a if

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Speaker 1: it's a polite you know, critique or whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: you end up sparking up a conversation and you end

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Speaker 1: up with pen pals. And I've developed a share of

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Speaker 1: pen pals, well, one of my pen pals through this

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Speaker 1: observation at me. This was before we knew everything that

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Speaker 1: was going on with the East Wing the White House.

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Speaker 1: Okay we now know, Okay, we now know they're tearing

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Speaker 1: the entire the entire East Wings being demolished this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Just let that sink in. Donald Trump has decided to

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Speaker 1: demolish the entire East Wing this weekend in order to

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Speaker 1: build his ballroom. He is putting a change to the

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Speaker 1: White House that hasn't been made since it was burned down,

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Speaker 1: arguably when the British were trying to get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: But this again, this person wrote me before we knew

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Speaker 1: the full extent of this demolition project. Bye by Foreman

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, And he writes this, I think DJH is

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Speaker 1: making a miscalculation with the White House East wing demolition.

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Speaker 1: Americans love the White House. I think it's the building

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Speaker 1: we revere the most. You can just think of the

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Speaker 1: historic presidents walking those halls one after another, no matter

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Speaker 1: what party. The optics being circulated right now of the

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Speaker 1: expansive demolition are quite jarring. Maybe his base won't care,

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Speaker 1: but there might be a whole bunch of people in

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Speaker 1: the middle who aren't crazy about him unilaterally tearing down

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Speaker 1: a national treasure. And you know, I sort of touched

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Speaker 1: I do think that Donald Trump right now is sort

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Speaker 1: of playing with matches in front of a gas tank

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Speaker 1: with He's more focused literally on everything other than what

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Speaker 1: he campaigned on. Right he is not focused on lowering costs,

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Speaker 1: He is not focused on the on the issue that

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Speaker 1: got him elected, lowering costs and improving people's lifestyles and

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Speaker 1: giving them more opportunity. Perhaps you can make an argument

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Speaker 1: on that he is attempting to fulfill his promise on

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Speaker 1: law and order with immigration and what he's trying to

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Speaker 1: do in the cities. So how he's doing it is

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Speaker 1: actually harming the economy and raising the cost of everyday things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to know why chicken and

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Speaker 1: And the point I was making the other day on

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Speaker 1: to sort of the symbolism that he seems to be

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Speaker 1: more consumed with enhancing himself, self dealing, enriching himself and

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Speaker 1: his family, becoming an actual billionaire, trying to get his

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Speaker 1: name in the history books, you know, campaigning for an accolade.

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Speaker 1: It's just so weird. You know, most of us were

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Speaker 1: not raised to campaign for accolades, and yet he campaigns

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Speaker 1: for the Nobel Peace Prize. And you have US senators

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Speaker 1: desperate for his endorsement introducing resolutions in the United States Senate,

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Speaker 1: including one person who thought he committed crimes so great

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Speaker 1: against the Constitution that he should never be allowed to

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Speaker 1: hold office again. But that was twenty twenty one. That

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Speaker 1: was way back when. Now, of course, reelection is paramount.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it takes to get DJT to endorse you. And

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a there's a point here right with

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Speaker 1: with Trump, and I think it happened to the first term.

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Speaker 1: You know, a lot of his of Trump's opponents are

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Speaker 1: always looking for there, always thinking this is gonna sink him. Aha. Right,

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Speaker 1: I go back to the comments about John McCain when

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Speaker 1: many of us, myself include, thought, well, there's no way

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Speaker 1: he can survive in a Republican party. My goodness, the

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Speaker 1: chairman of the Republican Party. When when Donald Trump did

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Speaker 1: that eviscerated Donald Trump. Well, that chairman would eventually become

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Speaker 1: his first chief of staff and writes previous. Right, So,

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Speaker 1: trying to predict the downfall of Donald Trump is something

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Speaker 1: that you will lose. You could lose a lot of

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Speaker 1: his welcome, right. You know, the Apprentice was a success

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Speaker 1: until it wasn't and then he like was desperate for attention,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we got the Gary buse years right,

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to go out of failure. So he

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Speaker 1: running for president almost as an exit strategy, because he

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Speaker 1: but how crazier and crazier. You know, how many how

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Speaker 1: much Dennis Rodman do you need on your TV screen?

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Speaker 1: How much Gary Busey do you need on your TV screen?

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Speaker 1: And so now we're in the political world, and I

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Speaker 1: do think that, you know, there are times when I

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Speaker 1: think it is a fair critique that Democrats get so

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Speaker 1: the main ball, which is, you know, what do voters

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Speaker 1: care about? Well, this is a case where I think

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is so focused on what he wants to

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Speaker 1: do with himself and his own ego that he's take

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Speaker 1: you know, he's no longer mister America First. He is

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Speaker 1: not putting America first really under any circumstance, right, he's

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Speaker 1: so enamored with his legacy building. He has suddenly become

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Speaker 1: mister foreign policy president. Not the first president to do that.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to get bogged down on that.

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Speaker 1: But it's this self dealing over time, right, and you

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Speaker 1: start to accumulate things. There was the meme coin. You're like,

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Speaker 1: what is he doing? You're you're part of the crypto scam, okay,

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Speaker 1: and he did this. Then there was the plane and

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Speaker 1: you're like, really, ugh, oh that's gross. And then it

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Speaker 1: sort of came and went. By the way the plane's

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Speaker 1: been boy, I mean, if you ask Cutter, the plane

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Speaker 1: is valued at somewhere around a half a billion dollars,

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Speaker 1: they've now gotten NATO like security guarantees from the United

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good return on investment on that one.

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Speaker 1: Then we've had the shakedowns of corporations. Then, of course,

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Speaker 1: earlier this week we found he wants to shake down

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Speaker 1: the government. He so is trying to rewrite history about

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Speaker 1: the various ways that he fought the law, and he

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Speaker 1: wants to get financially compensated for the fact that essentially

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Speaker 1: his political ambition got most of these cases either dismissed

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Speaker 1: or turned away because he got elected office. Again, he

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Speaker 1: didn't get off. He's not innocent of stealing classified information.

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Speaker 1: He's not innocent of what he did on January sixth.

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Speaker 1: He's not innocent on what he did after the twenty

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Speaker 1: he have. But the point is he's not gotten off

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Speaker 1: on any of these things. But now he wants to

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Speaker 1: His former personal attorney who's now a Deputy Attorney General,

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Speaker 1: Todd Plant. So you start to you put all these together.

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Speaker 1: So he's demolishing, you know, he paved over the Rose Garden,

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Speaker 1: A Lago Washington for a ballroom. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: cases where if he went about this through the proper

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Speaker 1: sort of how you do these things. I actually think

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Speaker 1: there would be bipartisan support for an expanded ballroom for

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Speaker 1: the White House. Okay, it is ridiculous how often they

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Speaker 1: erect tense. There's a big south lawn. They could do

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Speaker 1: stuff like that, and the presidential suv. I actually think

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Speaker 1: you could get some sort of But of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: Trump has two issues with that. He doesn't like asking

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Speaker 1: anybody else's permission for anything, right, He just doesn't like

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Speaker 1: to abide by those things. And the second thing is

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Speaker 1: it would probably take longer. And he clearly wants some

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Speaker 1: of this. He wants to experience this these things himself.

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Speaker 1: But if the everyday life of middle class and working

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Speaker 1: he is starting to venture in. And what I believe

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Speaker 1: is let them eat cake territory and you can start

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Speaker 1: to put together the accumulation of this. And this is

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Speaker 1: why I think, well, no one of these we know this,

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Speaker 1: in some ways, people focus too much on one thing

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Speaker 1: and not enough on the big picture. But let's take

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Speaker 1: it comes to putting all this together. So since he's

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Speaker 1: and I want you to understand, since he's come into office,

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Speaker 1: you want to if you're looking for the fastest growing

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Speaker 1: family business in America right now, you don't go to

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Speaker 1: Silicon Valley or Wall Street. You go to sixteen hundred

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Avenue. Because since Donald Trump has returned to the

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Speaker 1: White House, the Trump family has taken this public power

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Speaker 1: and turned it into private profit at a pace that

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Speaker 1: surpasses anything we saw during Teapot Dum. Right. That's one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I did the podcast Time Machine the

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Speaker 1: other day on Teapot Dome. So if you look at

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Speaker 1: and the Trump family's collective wealth in less than a

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Speaker 1: year has grown by somewhere between three and five billion dollars,

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Speaker 1: a year. And the biggest driver is not real estate

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Speaker 1: you know he used to be. It is crypto. Let

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Speaker 1: me get into the details here. You know, it all

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Speaker 1: began with the family's flagship token, this Trump Mean coin,

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Speaker 1: which is totally worthless, right, that exploded into a multi

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Speaker 1: billion dollar market because his supporters, for one reason or

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Speaker 1: the other, buy into this. They're willing to buy this,

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Speaker 1: these this Trump Mean coin, which is nothing more than

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Speaker 1: a Franklin mint choschki if you want to, But it

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Speaker 1: had a market value at one point of up to

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Speaker 1: twenty seven billion. The Trump family controls twenty of that

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Speaker 1: twenty seven billion. Eighty percent of all the meme coins

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Speaker 1: are in their control. Now, look, this could end up

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Speaker 1: being worthless, right once they're out of office, people may sell

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Speaker 1: their coins and whatever coins they'll be worth what they

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Speaker 1: actually should be worth, which is zero. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think this is something Trump's always wanted to Trump

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Speaker 1: has always believed his name is should be valued at

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Speaker 1: a higher number, that his brand is so great. It

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Speaker 1: used to be the argument he used to make with

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Speaker 1: the Forbes folks when they would do their billionaire list.

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Speaker 1: Trump was always upset that he was not higher on

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Speaker 1: the list, and he'd claim extra net worth just based

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Speaker 1: on his name. In some ways, this meme coined his

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Speaker 1: he got some twenty billion dollars in equity value. Now,

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Speaker 1: of course this could easily be bribery money, right. It's

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing with him. He is no

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Speaker 1: doubt it's some of the inaugural fund pays for stuff.

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Speaker 1: The building fund will pay for stuff, the library will

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Speaker 1: pay for stuff. You know who won't pay for anything?

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Speaker 1: Donald John Trump and that self enrichment. This is again,

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Speaker 1: this is I think he's playing, you know, I know

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Speaker 1: he thinks he can shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and

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Speaker 1: he won't lose a supporter. I think he's really testing

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Speaker 1: the premise here he's knocking down the White House. It

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Speaker 1: is true, the most recognizable building in America. He's already

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Speaker 1: like put like car dealership American flags up there, which

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Speaker 1: kind of look tacky. You know, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: criticize him for being patriotic, but you know, do we

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Speaker 1: have to be tacky about it? Does it have to

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Speaker 1: look like I'm driving down an interstate in Texas where

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Speaker 1: there's always these competitions between car dealerships. This is the

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Speaker 1: one thing I've gotten to see in Dallas, of the

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Speaker 1: road to DFW Airport. It's just this parade of flags

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Speaker 1: that if they ever, if they ever sort of flew

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Speaker 1: off the flagpoles, that would probably engulf multiple cars at once.

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Speaker 1: These flags are so big. I think he's creating a

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Speaker 1: huge sort of US versus them. You know, is he

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Speaker 1: with you or is he with them? And right now

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Speaker 1: he is a them person. He is in the let

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Speaker 1: them eat cake mode. He is in the elite mode.

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Speaker 1: He is somebody who has benefited from running against the

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Speaker 1: supposed elites. But now he has created his own set

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Speaker 1: of elites who play by their own set of rules.

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Speaker 1: And I think if chicken is twice the price, it's

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Speaker 1: harder to get a car loan, it's harder to find

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Speaker 1: a home. This stuff is going to come across when

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Speaker 1: you start to aggregate it all together. You know, instead

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Speaker 1: of lowering your healthcare costs, he's been focused on his ballroom,

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Speaker 1: paving the rose garden, knocking down the East Wing, enriching

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Speaker 1: himself with crypto buying land and foreign countries getting hotel deals.

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Speaker 1: All you start to put all that together and you're

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Speaker 1: running on a But who's looking out for you? The populace.

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Speaker 1: The person that one with with populism could see his

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Speaker 1: political career go down in flames viah that kind of populism.

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Speaker 1: Let me sneak in a few questions here. It's time

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Speaker 1: for litt last Chuck. Ask Chuck, all right. Next first

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Speaker 1: question comes from Zach from Ohio. Yes, I'm a Buckeye fan,

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Speaker 1: soon to be back to back national champs. I like

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Speaker 1: the cockiness. Let me just tell you I remember a

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Speaker 1: certain University of Miami team that thought they were going

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Speaker 1: back to back and it was some upstart team from Columbus,

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Speaker 1: Ohio that prevented that. So I will tell you, am,

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Speaker 1: I would love love to get my ultimate revenge on

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Speaker 1: the stolen national title from two thousand and two that

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Speaker 1: Ohio State improperly has thanks to a referee named Terry Porter. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I will never forget his name, Zach. He was the

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Speaker 1: official who decided there was past interference on the infamous

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Speaker 1: fake national title that Jim Tressel is able to take

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Speaker 1: credit for. But it would be some rich irony if

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Speaker 1: we were able to stop you guys from your back

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Speaker 1: to back on that front. But I've digressed. Let me

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Speaker 1: get to your actual question. I know you've spoken quite

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Speaker 1: a bit about AI and its effects impossible impact on

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Speaker 1: society you like to reference. It's going to bring back

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Speaker 1: more in person relationships and seeing things with your own eyes,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. That's my hope. What I think you're missing

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Speaker 1: is that why aren't we talking about watermarking every piece

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Speaker 1: of AI produced so people know what they're seeing is altered.

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Speaker 1: Let me know your thoughts, go buck eyes. The problem

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Speaker 1: with these attempts with watermarks or doing little things like

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Speaker 1: that is that apparently as fast as you can sort

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Speaker 1: of force it is as fast as it seems to

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Speaker 1: go away. Now we're the only way you're going to

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Speaker 1: be able to enforce sort of some sort of watermark

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Speaker 1: like that with AI, so that we could have is

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Speaker 1: if it's a regulation, right, if it's an actual law.

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Speaker 1: And I think this is the flaw that the federal

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Speaker 1: government has gone about when it's come with AI. This

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Speaker 1: mindset of hey, let's let the industry one wild and

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Speaker 1: then we'll figure out the regulation after the fact. Is.

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Speaker 1: You know, it didn't work with social media, why do

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Speaker 1: we think it's going to work with AI. I think

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Speaker 1: you're right. I think we could have it. I think

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Speaker 1: a watermark would work, but you've you've got to force it.

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Speaker 1: You've almost got to force it as a regulation that

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Speaker 1: it is a have to that literally you will lose

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Speaker 1: your you know, your ability to to get on the

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Speaker 1: internet if you don't have it. There has to be

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Speaker 1: some sort of teeth to this regulation. You know this.

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Speaker 1: All these AI developers are trying to claim that they

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Speaker 1: you know, they want to try to protect content creators

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Speaker 1: and they want to try to protect the public. But

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Speaker 1: we're going to just march forward and then worry and

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Speaker 1: then see you know what it is that that it

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Speaker 1: could be problematic so that we can then regulate after

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Speaker 1: the fact. And that's the problem with after the fact regulation, right,

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Speaker 1: genie is out of the bottle, and it makes it

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Speaker 1: much harder to pick your metaphor put the toothpaste back

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Speaker 1: in the tube, put the genie back to the bottle,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. So I think in theory a

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Speaker 1: some and I do think this is coming some sort

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Speaker 1: of where you're gonna have AI transparency, right, full tran parency,

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Speaker 1: and that maybe where this goes that you have to

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Speaker 1: say where it's you know that it was not create

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Speaker 1: you know that was created with this image or created

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Speaker 1: this way, you know. I h I just, I just

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Speaker 1: I'm skeptical by the time we get to the point

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Speaker 1: where those laws are passed, whether whether it's almost too

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Speaker 1: late right on that front, but I do think it's

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Speaker 1: we've got to whatever we pass to protect on this

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Speaker 1: front has to have some teeth, because right now, even

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Speaker 1: the protections that exist, they're all finds and finds. As

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Speaker 1: far as these big tech titans are concerned, are fine

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Speaker 1: with them because they can just sort of they use

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Speaker 1: it at the price of doing business. Some form of

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Speaker 1: liability needs to happen. Look, I kind of think let's

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Speaker 1: sick some trial lawyers on these guys and let's see

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Speaker 1: how quickly they start to change that. Once their bottom

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Speaker 1: line is truly threatened, then they'll change their behavior. I'll

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Speaker 1: give you an example of something that they do, right.

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Speaker 1: They prevent child pornography from you know, getting out into

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Speaker 1: the mainstream of the Internet. Yes, it's it's still been

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Speaker 1: hard to get rid of in the dark web and

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Speaker 1: some of the you know, it's not to say it's

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Speaker 1: been permanent, but but the the fact that, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you want to, you know, the fear of being

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Speaker 1: associated with the distribution of child pornography has led the

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Speaker 1: tech companies to put in real restrictions to make sure

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Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't you know, you don't see the

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Speaker 1: solicitations and stuff like this. So the fact is, if

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Speaker 1: they choose to, they can. And it's only if if

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Speaker 1: they feel as if that you know, in that sense

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Speaker 1: such reputational damage, that's that that's no way to come out,

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Speaker 1: get out from under. So whatever we design in a regulation,

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Speaker 1: it needs to have the type of teeth that that

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Speaker 1: will allow it to stick. Next question comes from elmer

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Speaker 1: Cis it's just writing you, just writing to you the

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Speaker 1: night of the No Kings protest, so over from the

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Speaker 1: last weekend. Why is it that we see large numbers

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Speaker 1: of people coming out for this, but we don't see

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Speaker 1: this during election day. Also been a big fan of yours,

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Speaker 1: going back to the other podcast days. I remember listening

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Speaker 1: to your what if episodes at the end of the

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Speaker 1: year looking forward to it. Thank you, Elmer, And yes,

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Speaker 1: some what if episodes are coming up. I will tell

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Speaker 1: you now will I will reveal the topic of one

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Speaker 1: what if episode right now, And by the way, I'd

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Speaker 1: love for you and the big what if episode. It's

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Speaker 1: almost I'm doing it because so many people have asked

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Speaker 1: for it. Is what if Trump had won in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: where would we be? What would its second term have

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Speaker 1: looked like under those circumstances. I think it's an extraordinarily

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Speaker 1: fair butterfly effect question. But it also leads me to Hey,

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Speaker 1: send me ask Chuck at thechuckcodcast dot com, or leave

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Speaker 1: a comment on the YouTube page, or leave a message

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00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: on Instagram or wherever you interact with my content. We've

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Speaker 1: got it on LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook, you name it. But

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Speaker 1: we are looking for suggestions of I do these alternative

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Speaker 1: histories during the holiday season, and so you know, what

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Speaker 1: if you know, if one thing had changed. How would

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Speaker 1: that have gone on? You know, what if Bill Clinton

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Speaker 1: had resigned the presidency in nineteen ninety eight during the

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Speaker 1: height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, Al Gore would have

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Speaker 1: been president, you know, through the two thousand election, and

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Speaker 1: if he had won, what would have How would that

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Speaker 1: have changed the impact of nine to eleven for instance.

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Speaker 1: So that is one that I've done, and you can

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Speaker 1: go back into the archives of the old NBC version

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Speaker 1: of the Chuck Podcast and check that out. I did

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Speaker 1: one that what if John Lennon had lived and not

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Speaker 1: died by an assassin back in nineteen eighty how would

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Speaker 1: the reputation of the Beatles be today? Would they be

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Speaker 1: more like the Rolling Stones or would they still be

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Speaker 1: held in this level where there, you know, it's the

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Speaker 1: Beatles and everybody else type of mindset. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I've tried to do politically. I'm a big believer in

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Speaker 1: these butterfly effects, you know, sort of accidental moments in

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Speaker 1: history and things like that. So anyway, I implore you

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Speaker 1: if you've got thoughts on some alternative scenarios you'd like

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Speaker 1: me to discuss, and I bring out an expert in

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Speaker 1: that field and we go through it. I would love

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Speaker 1: to get some more suggestions there. But to get to

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Speaker 1: your point, I remember during the first, the big the

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Speaker 1: first Women's march during Trump one point zero, and I

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Speaker 1: think we had sent us some reporters out to talk

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Speaker 1: to people about you know, where a bunch of folks

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Speaker 1: participating in the protests admitted they didn't vote in the election. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, the two thousand election is my favorite one

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Speaker 1: to note how nobody seemed to care about it until

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Speaker 1: after the fact. You know, suddenly here was a mediocre

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Speaker 1: turnout election, super close, and everybody's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I guess I should have participated given the impact of

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Speaker 1: set election. Look as Churchill said about America and Americans,

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Speaker 1: he is, I'm going to probably screw this, but I'm

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Speaker 1: going to paraphrase Churchill. You know, the Americans are always there.

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Speaker 1: After they've exhausted every other path to get there, will

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Speaker 1: eventually be there. The voters eventually figure it out, the

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Speaker 1: voters eventually put it keep us on the right path.

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Speaker 1: But you know, one of the great Martin Luther King

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Speaker 1: quotes is that the arc of history bends towards justice. Well,

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Speaker 1: one of the alternative ways I like to use that metaphors.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you've ever gone onto a big loopy

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Speaker 1: loop on a big highway, Miami's got one of these

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Speaker 1: where in order to go south, you have to go north,

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Speaker 1: meaning your arc goes so backwards before you get to

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Speaker 1: go forwards, right, you know. And so yes, I believe

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Speaker 1: the arc of history bends towards justice, but sometimes you

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Speaker 1: go backwards before you get to go back forwards again. So,

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Speaker 1: and that's been the story of America. You know, we

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Speaker 1: have over time created a more perfect union. And like

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Speaker 1: the stock market, the era is always getting up eventually,

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Speaker 1: but we have these dips. Sometimes they're really really scary dips.

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Speaker 1: McCarthyism was a scary dip. This feels like a scary dip.

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Speaker 1: We dip, but we eventually we eventually get there. At

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Speaker 1: least that's my story and I'm sticking to it, am,

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Speaker 1: I promise all right. Next question comes from another Chuck,

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Speaker 1: A fellow Chuck. Chuck s. I'm Chuck T. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: writing it, he goes. I appreciate your recent comments about

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Speaker 1: engaging with people who hold different political views. I agree

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Speaker 1: it's important, but how do you have meaningful discussions about

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Speaker 1: the economy, foreign affairs, or progress. When you can't even

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Speaker 1: a grand basic facts it's one hundred percent true. It

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Speaker 1: feels like truth has become optional and trolling is the norm,

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Speaker 1: like trying to debate science with a flat earther. How

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Speaker 1: do we move forward when reality itself seems up for debate?

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Speaker 1: Thanks love for the show. Look, this is the real

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Speaker 1: challel bunch that were there on this and this is

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Speaker 1: where we need more help from the right side of

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Speaker 1: the aisle. I think the biggest difference between Trump one

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Speaker 1: point oh and Trump two point zero is the is

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Speaker 1: the lack of spine among some Republicans who are extraordinarily

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable with what he's doing with the self enrichment, what

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Speaker 1: he's doing with the rule of law, how he's just

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I know a lot of these

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Speaker 1: Republican senators and Republican members of Congress, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to say something that some of you just aren't going

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Speaker 1: to agree with, but I'm going to tell you it's true.

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Speaker 1: Ninety five percent of these people came here for the

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Speaker 1: right reasons. You may not agree with some of their

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Speaker 1: points of view, but they came here ostensibly believing in

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Speaker 1: these institutions. But they want to be in politics so bad,

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Speaker 1: and they want to stay in good standing in the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party so bad that they rationalize their way out

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Speaker 1: of out of these things. You know, one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite little stories of late and I say favorite loosely

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Speaker 1: here is there's a lot of grumpy there's starting to

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Speaker 1: become a little bit of a grumpiness among some Republican

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Speaker 1: senators about John Thune. And you know what the chief

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Speaker 1: complain is that John Thune hasn't pushed back on Trump enough. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: what these senators are saying is, hey, we don't have

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Speaker 1: the guts to push back on him, but we were

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Speaker 1: hoping you could protect us from having to, you know,

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Speaker 1: vote for these terrible nominees. Right, you know that, you

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Speaker 1: know why why? You know, why couldn't you have stopped

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Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth from coming to the floor. Why couldn't you

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Speaker 1: have stopped Bobby Kennedy Junior from coming to the floor.

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Speaker 1: Why couldn't you have stopped Telsey Gabbard from coming to

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Speaker 1: the floor. And I'm, you know, and weird, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to defend Thune here on this. Look. You know, Thune

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Speaker 1: was not a maga guy, and he's always been worried that,

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Speaker 1: you know, if Trump turns on him, he's done right. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: Rick Scott ran as the MAGA candidate for Majority Leader

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Speaker 1: and he didn't win. So we know a majority of

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Speaker 1: Republican senators don't want Trump to just you know, have

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Speaker 1: a Trump sick a fan in that position. And yet

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Speaker 1: Thune is precarious himself. And we know these senators they

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Speaker 1: but they don't have the guts to show their opposition

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Speaker 1: in public on their own. And I think that's been

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Speaker 1: the biggest problem, and it's the biggest problem with sort

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Speaker 1: of normal debate is you have to accept the premise

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Speaker 1: of what's right and wrong, what's ethical and what's unethical,

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Speaker 1: and right now those lines are so blurry they're impossible

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Speaker 1: to see. I don't think the lines have been blurred.

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Speaker 1: I think they've been erased. And you know, what I'm

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Speaker 1: concerned about is what we saw, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: you had the release of those awful texts from that

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Speaker 1: from that young Republican club mostly out of the Northeast.

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Speaker 1: I think what really is bothersome is how often we've

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Speaker 1: seen this among among you know, sort of young aspiring

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Speaker 1: Republicans in the Trump bara under the age of thirty

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Speaker 1: five and how often they've had just such hateful, harmful

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Speaker 1: rhetoric in their social media feeds or texts or whatever happens. Right,

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Speaker 1: And you know, we're told, oh, kids are going to

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Speaker 1: be kids, or you know, hey, youthful indiscretion. Right, Jade

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Speaker 1: Vance's been trying to say, But what does it say

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Speaker 1: about your party as that these younger folks think if they,

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Speaker 1: you know, play the fascist card, play the Nazi card,

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Speaker 1: you know, not in wink at a Hitler as a

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Speaker 1: quote unquote joke, that actually ingratiates themselves with the movement.

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Speaker 1: That I know I would be offended Vice President Vance

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Speaker 1: if I thought the only way somebody would feel noticed

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Speaker 1: by me is if I bragged about how much I'm

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Speaker 1: willing to praise the Nazis or praise Hitler. And yet

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Speaker 1: that seems to be the message that has been sent

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Speaker 1: to some so many of these young these these young

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Speaker 1: conservatives who think that's what debate is. Owning the Libs

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Speaker 1: is what debate is creating memes that have the president

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Speaker 1: literally shitting on the country in a in a in

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Speaker 1: an AI created airplane, that this is funny, good politics,

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Speaker 1: just part of the political debate. You know that that's

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Speaker 1: where you wonder if we lost an entire generation who

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Speaker 1: think this is what practicing politics successfully looks like. This

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Speaker 1: is the this is the stuff that i've you know,

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Speaker 1: that have made me want to, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: walk away from mainstream media and say, what, what the

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Speaker 1: hell is this? We've got to fix this. We've got

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Speaker 1: to create a new media ecosystem, a new information ecosystem.

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Speaker 1: We've got to create better incentives. We've got to update

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Speaker 1: our constitution. We got a lot of work to do

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Speaker 1: on this stuff. And I think that you know, you

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Speaker 1: start you look at some of the stuff being done

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Speaker 1: and being sort of tolerated right now in our politics,

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Speaker 1: and if you put it in a poll question and

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Speaker 1: ask people whether they found this to be acceptable behavior,

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Speaker 1: it would be eighty twenty to the No. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: isn't a ff This isn't a fifty to fifty mindset,

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Speaker 1: And yet it looks like it is. And certainly the

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Speaker 1: currency of succeeding in the MAGA movement looks like this.

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Speaker 1: That's it that should be embarrassing to the MAGA movement.

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Speaker 1: That's you know that that is not how you build

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Speaker 1: a sustainable political movement at some point people are going

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Speaker 1: to be disgusted enough that they're out completely. But it is,

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Speaker 1: it is the it is the problem with political debate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at the nonsense that you see out

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Speaker 1: of out of these cable chat shows at night. You know,

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Speaker 1: those that attempt to have have two people debating. They're

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00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: not debates. They're just sort of like they're talk. It's

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Speaker 1: like you're it's like you got talking. You know. It's

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Speaker 1: as if the social media memes have been translated into

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Speaker 1: words and you've got the you know, everybody's trying to

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Speaker 1: dunk on everybody else. But it's not a meaningful conversation

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Speaker 1: and it certainly doesn't advance anything. All right, old man

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Speaker 1: yelling at cloud comes to an end, Chuck s all right.

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Speaker 1: Next question comes from John from New Jersey. Hey, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: I've been loving the longer format lately. Your guests, especially

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Speaker 1: Mark Zandy, at such great depth to complex topics. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you for saying that you mentioned earlier this summer

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Speaker 1: that Pete Eggs at the Pan BONDI might be out

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Speaker 1: of their role soon. Yeah. Oops, Yet they seem both

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Speaker 1: seem solidly in place. Now. Can you share what might

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Speaker 1: have changed or if this suggests others like Kennedy could

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Speaker 1: be sticking around too. And by the way, as someone

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Speaker 1: who's college didn't have a football team, your college sports

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Speaker 1: talk is officially turned me into a college football fan

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Speaker 1: that watches every Saturday John from New Jersey. It's great

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Speaker 1: to hear John, And I will tell you it bothers

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Speaker 1: me that New Jersey. You know, Rutgers was one of

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Speaker 1: the founding members of college football, right, the first games

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Speaker 1: competitive games played, Right, the initial powers were Rutgers, New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: New Jersey should be, you know, finding more ways to

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Speaker 1: make Rutgers football great. I'd say great again, but it's

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Speaker 1: been such a long time since the late nineteenth century

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Speaker 1: that it's hard to say that was the I'd say

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Speaker 1: that's the last time. But I have a feeling if

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Speaker 1: Rutgers were better at college football, maybe you would have

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Speaker 1: you know, the rest of maybe you'd be been a

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Speaker 1: bigger fan sooner. But I'm glad I've brought you. I

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Speaker 1: just think college football's you know, it's the best drama

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Speaker 1: on TV these days. I actually had a conversation with

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Speaker 1: somebody very tied into Trump world these days. I had

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Speaker 1: this conversation today. Actually, today is the middle of the week.

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Speaker 1: I and it's the evening here before Thursday. Yes, full trends,

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Speaker 1: full disclosure here. I'm taping this on Wednesday evening going

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Speaker 1: into Thursday. And this person said that they're One thing

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump didn't like reputationally was this idea that he

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Speaker 1: couldn't keep a staff in the first term, because that

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Speaker 1: really was the narrative, right, how many national security advisors

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Speaker 1: did he go through? I think it was for how

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Speaker 1: many chiefs of staff. I think it was for how

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Speaker 1: many secretaries of State, how many secretaries of defense? Right,

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Speaker 1: So he's been determined and he doesn't want to quote

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Speaker 1: give the media a win. So under the rules of

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Speaker 1: Trump one point oh, we'd already hag Seth, Bondi, Kennedy,

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Speaker 1: all would be gone. But under the rules of Trump

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Speaker 1: two point zero, I think you've got to be rowing

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Speaker 1: Moore type of problems or as we found out, you know,

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Speaker 1: what does it take to sort of lose standing in

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Speaker 1: Trump world? You got to get caught before your confirmation

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Speaker 1: doing saying something horrible or or doing something like that.

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Speaker 1: It's it doesn't but he doesn't want the drama. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't want it scene as that, and so he has

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Speaker 1: had a higher tolerance. But the message that's gone out

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Speaker 1: the cabinet secretaries, no matter what kind of precarious position

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Speaker 1: you're in, the more you suck up to him, the

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Speaker 1: safer your seat will be. But most of this the reason,

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Speaker 1: and I'll fully admit I thought we were still operating

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Speaker 1: by the rules of Trump one point zero. Now I

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Speaker 1: will say this, we're still eight months in, right, and

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Speaker 1: we're just like, oh my god, he hasn't gotten rid

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Speaker 1: of somebody eight months in. I mean, well he has, right,

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Speaker 1: He's on his second National Security advisor. I think Marco Rubio, Right,

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Speaker 1: he's I still believe the head of the Archives, like seriously,

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Speaker 1: head of the Archives, Secretary of State, National Security Advisor

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Speaker 1: Sean Duffy's ahead of NASA, and the Secretary of Transportation. Right,

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Speaker 1: remember with some of these people in multiple jobs because

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Speaker 1: he can't get some people confirmed. But the big piece

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Speaker 1: of intel that I learned today is actually he's he is.

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Speaker 1: He does not like he did not. It was the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing he didn't like about his first term is

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Speaker 1: that it looked like he that he had a reputation

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Speaker 1: of just going through cabinet secretaries left and right, and

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Speaker 1: he wanted to stop that. I'm gonna take one more

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Speaker 1: question here and then I will go into said long

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Speaker 1: my college football preview. Thanks for all you do. Appreciated

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Speaker 1: Colin Coward's appearance on your pod. Yeah, so did. I

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Speaker 1: appreciated that. I think it would be really informative for

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Speaker 1: the audience if you started a segment similar to Cowards

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Speaker 1: what Colin got right and what Colin got wrong. For example,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned a while back that you thought the shutdown

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Speaker 1: would last a week or two, and it obviously lasting

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Speaker 1: longer than that. I'd love to understand the underlying reasons

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Speaker 1: of why you thought that and what assumptions you had

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Speaker 1: that ended up being incorrect. Obviously lots of instances where

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Speaker 1: you're right to and I like to understand those underlining

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Speaker 1: assumptions logic as well. I think it would be very informative.

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Speaker 1: Go Cane s drew A. I think it's a good

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Speaker 1: idea for a straight up segment, and you're right, I do.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think I that if you're listening continuously,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I don't pretend like I didn't say

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Speaker 1: those things. Look I I'll tell you why I got

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Speaker 1: the shut down wrong on that one, because I just didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think the the Democrats had the stomach for it,

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Speaker 1: and I thought the Republican ask was reasonable, and I

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Speaker 1: couldn't believe the Democrats were going to be the less

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Speaker 1: reasonable party here when it came to you know, temporary

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Speaker 1: keeping the government going another six weeks. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm still sort of think this is head scratching. But

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Speaker 1: what I think I got wrong was underestimating the siloed

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Speaker 1: information ecosystem both you know, the feedback loop for Democrats

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Speaker 1: makes them think they're winning and the feedback loop from

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Speaker 1: Republicans makes them think they're winning. That's not an insignificant development,

853
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Speaker 1: and the fact that we have these it's also why

854
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Speaker 1: it goes back tying back into my opening monologue today

855
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Speaker 1: on this podcast. I don't think Donald Trump gets the

856
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: feedback loop of non mega right. And when you don't

857
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: get it, you don't realize how damaging what you're doing

858
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Speaker 1: could actually be. So, you know, this is what a

859
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: fragmented ecosystem can do, can really sort of get you

860
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: farther out of touch with the voters faster than ever before.

861
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Speaker 1: So on that instance, that is one hundred percent that

862
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: I was. I just did not see that it again.

863
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: I go back to, you know, I thought this is

864
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: not worth a full what if. But I think the

865
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: Democrats made a practical mistake by making a six week

866
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: continuing resolution the hill to die on. I think the

867
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: better hill to dion was after a continuing resolution where

868
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Speaker 1: you basically you bought the full six month and you

869
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Speaker 1: got And in fact, I think they'd even have more

870
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: more of the of the political zeitgeist on their side.

871
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: Right if November one hit, the premium, the premium, the

872
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: shock and rising premiums hit, then they have this sort

873
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: of you know budget impass on November twenty first, then

874
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: having the fight over Obamacare subsidies seems like a logical

875
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: thing to do. Look the problem, you know, I always

876
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: say sometimes the problem I have is I know too much?

877
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: What what you know? It may look like to plenty

878
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: of people that Democrats shut you know, did this for

879
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Speaker 1: healthcare subsidies. Democrats were looking for a reason to have

880
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: a showdown with them, and they decided healthcare subsidies pulled

881
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: the best. And I think that this is also why

882
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: I was a bit probably have been a bit little

883
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: where my assumptions got off on this, But I now

884
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: I now see in hindsight, this was they were gonna

885
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: they were going to have this conference. Chuck Schumer pulled politically,

886
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: felt like he had to have this confrontation. What was

887
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: the best rationale healthcare subsidies? Pold the best on that one.

888
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: But I like your idea, and it's a good idea

889
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: to sort of you know, you know, maybe once a

890
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: month here, twice a month, use my Q and a

891
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: time to address that one more. I'm going to hit

892
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: from Jason P. That way. I got six in today trying.

893
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: My son has been giving me a hard time. He

894
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Speaker 1: doesn't think I answer enough of your questions. I guess

895
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: is you guys think that's right too. Here's what Jason

896
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: P writes. He says, Hey, I love starting my mornings

897
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: with your show. You always make me think and challenge

898
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: my assumptions. I get your point about Democrats need to

899
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: be the adults in the room. But as someone who

900
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: leans left, it's hard to not feel frustrated when it

901
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: seems like Republicans keep breaking norms and getting away with it,

902
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: from redistricting to rule bending. How to Democrats uphold core

903
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: values without sounding preachy or like Hall monitor. It's a

904
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: huge struggle. I get that, especially if the saving democracy

905
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: message isn't resonating anymore. And on a lighter note, as

906
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Speaker 1: a Wisconsin football fan, which would take on programs like

907
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: are struggling to keep up in the New Power Era

908
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: adjacent p So, look, I get this first question a lot,

909
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, in a retort on my whole adults in

910
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: the room rant, and look, I think what you gotta

911
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: do is you got to tie these things again. I

912
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: go back. I think I'm going to use a line

913
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: that I use all of that is what is this

914
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: thing taught us? I'm holding up an iPhone for those

915
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: of you listening on audio only. Well, there's two things

916
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: I've learned from social media. One is we're all a

917
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:38,479
Speaker 1: little bit narcissistic, right, We've all decided whatever's happening around

918
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: us we should share. Now. What that also tells me is, hey,

919
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: we really like micro local news, right. We think whatever's

920
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: happening around us is so important that more people ought

921
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: to understand what's happening around us. So there's been always

922
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: been a part of me that says, hey, lean into this,

923
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, but ultimately, you know, it's why why do

924
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: we always say? It's the why did Carvil say it's

925
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: economy stupid. Why do we always say every election is

926
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: a pocketbook election? Because ultimately, what we're really saying is

927
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: most voters vote in their self interest. It's just depends

928
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: on what they believe their self interest is at the moment. Right.

929
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: I know some people think, no, those voters aren't voting

930
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: their self interest. They don't understand. They believe they are

931
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: voting their self interest. Culture may be more of a

932
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: self interest to them than you know, how much medicaid

933
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: support that they get and things like that. But what

934
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: I would say is, ultimately, Democrats, I think could be

935
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: campaigning on these issues. But if you do it through

936
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: the prism of the voter themselves, right, which is you're

937
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: upset about this, well, guess what, it's because they're doing

938
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: that that they're not helping you here. I think that

939
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: if I were to say, what do Democrats really need

940
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: to improve on when it comes to their anti Trump

941
00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: messaging is connecting Trump's own narcissism, Trump's own self dealing,

942
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: Trump's own greed with how that has not put America first? Right?

943
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: You essentially run Trump against Trump. It's still the best

944
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: thing to do in politics. Whenever you can run somebody

945
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: against their own promises, run some run, and you know,

946
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: run on an issue that your opponent said they were

947
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: going to solve but didn't. Right, those are always the

948
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: most powerful political messages. Running on democracy alone wasn't going

949
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: to do it. But explaining how it you know, in

950
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: some ways COVID made it easy to see. God, Trump's

951
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: so consumed with himself he won't even care about how

952
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: this is impacting me. But ultimately You've always got it

953
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: connected to the me right, and so for that voter,

954
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: whether they live in Des Moines, whether they live in Rolla, Missouri,

955
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: whether they live in Miami, Florida, whether they live in Arlington, Virginia,

956
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, you know, the them right. What what is

957
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: it that that that this is taking away from them?

958
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: And it can't be just sort of taking away rights

959
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: in general. It's but you know, impacting your kids, your spouses,

960
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: your parents, your grandparents when whenever Democrats are running that way, right,

961
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: that's how they eviscerated Mett Romney in twenty twelve. You know,

962
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't care. You know, essentially it's all about I've

963
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: always thought one of the most important questions, you know,

964
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: asks which care which candidate cares cares about you, right,

965
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: It just it's it's it's knowing there and right now.

966
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: I think a lot more people thought Donald Trump in

967
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, when he said, look, this is his brilliance

968
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: of saying no tax on tips. Right, it was sort

969
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: of like, I hear you service workers, even though is

970
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: he really helping service workers? But it is. I guess

971
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: that's where I think that the Democrats could be doing

972
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: a lot better. All Right, everybody's asked for it. Either

973
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 1: that or I'm curating the questions in such a way

974
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: that that I make it seem as if everybody loves

975
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: uh loves all the college football stuff that we do.

976
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: So on so get here's here's a here's a big

977
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: hot take prediction for this week's college football action. There

978
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: is not like a super marquee game or marquee games.

979
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: You know what that means. Everybody's on upset alert right

980
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: the weekends that lack the big game that you're firing

981
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: people up for, you know, your Georgia Alabama's or or

982
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: your you know, Miami Notre Dames or your Indiana Oregon's. Right,

983
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: we don't have any of those type of games this

984
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: weekend where it's top five versus top five. I think

985
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: there's a I'm looking quickly here. There's two rank versus ranks,

986
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: three ranked versus ranks this weekend, but none of them

987
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: are are within the top ten. Right. You have number

988
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: eight Ole miss At at number thirteen Oklahoma. You have

989
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: number fifteen Missouri at number ten Vanderbilt, and you have

990
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: number three Texas A and M at number twenty LSU.

991
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: So there's no there's no top five versus top five

992
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: or any or two teams within the top ten facing

993
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: each other. See and only three ranked versus ranked teams.

994
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: So in theory, and yes, we're still in conference play. Look,

995
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: one of my the hardest thing to do is when

996
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: a conference game. The hardest thing to do is beat

997
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: a team that you play every year, because over time

998
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: you get to know them. Why are you know? In

999
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: the NFL, one of the rules of betting is you

1000
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: know division You know. Whenever you see divisional games and

1001
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: a road team and a road team is favorite, always

1002
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: take the underdog in the divisional game because they definitely

1003
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: you know, they all know each other, they game plan

1004
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: twice a year, they face each other a lot. It's

1005
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: the same thing with conference so I think, you know,

1006
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: I know, the SEC thinks it's the only conference that

1007
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: has tough conference games. Every conference has tough conference games, Okay,

1008
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:13,959
Speaker 1: every single one of them. Miami has Stanford this week.

1009
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: Stanford comes to Miami after pulling their big upset of

1010
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: Florida State last week. Not a questionable call there. I

1011
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: think Florida State may have scored that touchdown there. But

1012
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: let's just say, I'd rather face a team after they've

1013
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: pulled a big upset than when they've lost a big game, right.

1014
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: I was nervous about or a team that has a

1015
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: week off, like Louisville had a week off and the

1016
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: only thing they cared about was game planning. For Miami.

1017
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: I'd like to see Miami put a real smack down

1018
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: on this one. This is probably their biggest spread since

1019
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: Bathune Cookman when they played earlier this year. Miami needs

1020
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: to look like Miami again, and I think if they do,

1021
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: it will sort of, you know, the doubters are all

1022
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: creeping in and oh, here come the Hurricanes again, blowing

1023
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: a game that they shouldn't have blown. And they had

1024
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: a pattern over the last five or six years when

1025
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: they'd lose one. It seemed to come in bunches. Suddenly

1026
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: they'd lose two out of three or two in a

1027
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: row or three in a row. So this needs to

1028
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: be a clean, sort of palette cleanser type of game.

1029
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: A close game would have me questioning whether the goals

1030
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: that I have for this team for the end of

1031
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: the year, whether those are reachable or not, because, unfortunately,

1032
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: whether it's fair or not, two loss acc teams are

1033
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: probably not going to get invited to the playoff, so

1034
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: they have to keep it to one loss. So margin

1035
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: of victory matters to me on this one, so that

1036
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: will be of interest. It's a night game, and Miami's

1037
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: a I always feel better when Miami's playing a night

1038
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: game on a Saturday. I never feel as good if

1039
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: Mimmy's playing a night game on a Thursday or a Friday.

1040
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: The other intriguing, you know the other games I'll be

1041
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: watching with intrigue this week UCLA at Indiana. Who is UCLA?

1042
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: I know? Kirk google me. Signetti said that he considers

1043
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: UCLA a three and oh team. They're facing an undefeated team,

1044
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: and since they've gotten the new coaching regime, they are undefeated.

1045
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: He's obviously trying to get the attention of his own team.

1046
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: We're going to find out a lot. I am stunned

1047
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: that this is a more than nearly a four touchdown spread.

1048
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: This is the most respect Indiana has ever gotten. I

1049
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: think when it comes to both from gamblers and the polsters,

1050
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: right highest ranking the gambler and me would say this

1051
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: is a this is a cell high spot on Indiana, right.

1052
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure what to make of UCLA. And

1053
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: one thing we've learned about Indiana is they seem to

1054
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: always be prepared. And there's now three weeks of this

1055
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: new type of offense, these new game plans that UCLA

1056
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: has put together, and the longer that's on film, perhaps

1057
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: mister Signetti and his staffer is going to find find

1058
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: a way to take advantage of it. So I'll just

1059
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: simply say, I'm just very right. We all want to know.

1060
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: We're going to learn how good both teams are on

1061
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: this one. Is UCLA fully fully back or you know,

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Speaker 1: has this been a bit of a mirage and they

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01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: just caught some teams napping. Indiana won't be napping on

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Speaker 1: this one. And we're going to find out how Indiana

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Speaker 1: handles handles. Praise you know I was last week wasn't

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Speaker 1: the best of tests. It was Michigan State and something

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01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: seems to be wrong with Michigan State at the moment,

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01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: so we'll find out here. I still think we're more

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01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: likely to see no undefeated playoff teams than having at

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Speaker 1: least one or two. Put it this way, I think

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01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: if we have an undefeated playoff team, it's only one.

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Speaker 1: But I'm still gonna bet on zero on that front.

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Speaker 1: Ol Miss Oklahoma, this is a playoff elimination game. My

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01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: son said something during the old Miss Georgia game, and

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01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: he goes, doesn't Ole Miss. This is what his observation.

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01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: It was one of those you know sometimes you know

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Speaker 1: your kids say stuff, You're like, yeah, that is pretty

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01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: obviously he goes, doesn't. Lane Kiffin always lose these games, meaning,

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Speaker 1: you know, whenever he's it seems like when he's he

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01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: doesn't ever win that big game you gotta win. He'll

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Speaker 1: pull an upset, but can he do two or three

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Speaker 1: of them? Right? This is just the type of game

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01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: he blows. And so you know what's interesting is red Venables.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he I think he's got a shorter

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01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: leash maybe than he should. But I think he does.

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Speaker 1: They lose this one, and you could see, you know,

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01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: their schedule is not easy the rest of the way.

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01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: You could see suddenly, you know what if they lose

1089
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: three or four games this season. Right at first, they

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01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: looked like they were going to be one of the

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: top SEC teams. If they are indeed a top SEC team,

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Speaker 1: then they need to win this game. But this is

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01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, as far as playoff implications, I think it's

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01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: very much oh U and O miss. This is an

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Speaker 1: elimination game for them. Uh. South Florida Memphis. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: elimination games, the winner of this game is probably the

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Speaker 1: front runner for the group of five slot in the playoff.

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01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: South Florida so smoked North Texas that my assumption is

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Speaker 1: that they'll uh that they're going to beat Memphis as well.

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01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: Somehow Memphis lost to UAB. I guess it's the new

1101
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: coach bounce that happened with the Trent Dilfert firing a

1102
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: couple weeks earlier that got you at UAB off the mat.

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01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: That was it's about his head scratching of a of

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01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: a of an outcome that we've seen. But I'm like,

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01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: looking at this line of four and a half and

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01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm staring at it, and I know Memphis is hosting,

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01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering, really, isn't South South Florida has played

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01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: a tougher schedule than most of the Big Ten, right so,

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01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: I you know, and probably half of the ACC. They

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01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: certainly have played a tougher schedule that Georgia Tech has, right,

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01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech has got the easy schedule this year in

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Speaker 1: the ACC. I'll be cares, I know self, we might

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01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: be buying, you know, buying high here. But why do

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01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: I think South Florida is going to blow out Memphis

1115
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: in this one? And then the other potential elimination game

1116
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: playoff wise is Missouri Vanderbilt? Where now? So Vanderbilt just

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01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt being a favorite in SEC games? Now this is

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01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: becoming hey normal, back to back weeks ranked, back to

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Speaker 1: back weeks, favored over other SEC opponents. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: up is down, cats and dogs living together, you know,

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01:06:55,800 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: whatever it is here we are. I've not been impressed

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01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: with Missouri all year. Missouri's always and has been that

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Speaker 1: way the last couple of years. You look and they're

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01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: like they always have a pretty good record, nine and three,

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01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: eight and four, ten and two. My apologies to my

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Speaker 1: friend Major Garrett, who is might be the biggest Missouri

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Speaker 1: football fan. I know I have I have an ant

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Speaker 1: and who went to MISSOI But sorry, I think my

1129
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: buddy Major Garrett is is a bigger football fan on

1130
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: that front than you are, Aunt Janet. But I tease,

1131
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: they just don't look like a playoff team to me,

1132
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: and weirdly Vanderbilt does. Right. Are you really going to

1133
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: bet against Pavey in a game? This is just a

1134
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, that's one the other. There's a few other

1135
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Speaker 1: games to keep an eye on b YU at Iowa State.

1136
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: Iowa States not look great all year, but just when

1137
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Speaker 1: you think Iowa State, yah, they're no good, Matt Campbell

1138
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: finds a way and there's something BYU is one of

1139
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: the undefeateds. You're like, really, they're still undefeated and they

1140
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: just got through the Holy War against Utah last week.

1141
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: If they drop a game before the big twelfth title game,

1142
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Speaker 1: this is the game they drop, we're gonna learn. I'm

1143
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: going to learn a lot about how good b YU

1144
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: really is because it's you know, the rivalry game against

1145
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: Utah's everything. What kind of hangover do they have going

1146
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: at again one of the toughest. You know, one of

1147
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: the better home fields that exists in the Big twelve

1148
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: is in UH is in Aims there for for the

1149
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: Iowa State cyclones UH. After that UH Texas Mississippi State.

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Speaker 1: Do we do we fully bury Texas if mississ if

1151
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: the cow Bells win this one, because this is in Stark, Vegas,

1152
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: which means we'll see how Arch handles the cow bells

1153
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: on that front. And then the other the other one

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Speaker 1: that'll be could also be Brian Kelly's elimination game. Is

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Speaker 1: the Texas A and M at l s U A

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Speaker 1: and M. I think looks like they're going to be

1157
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: one of the SEC representatives, right they have there's still undefeated.

1158
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: They've got margin for error here. They can lose and

1159
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: keep going. They've got some good wins. They got the

1160
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Speaker 1: good out of out of conference win against Notre Dame.

1161
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: But boy, this is a this is one of those

1162
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Speaker 1: where if LSU doesn't win this one. Remember, LSU has

1163
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: not fired one coach who had previously won a national title.

1164
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: LSU's fired two coaches that have won national titles, Les

1165
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: Miles and my Man ed Orgeron Edoljeron I love me

1166
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: some ed Orgeron. He's also a University Miami guy, so

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01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: I love edgorg Ron Edgeorge Run. This is my best

1168
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: edgearge Run impersonation. I'm curious what you guys think of it,

1169
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: but in all semi seriousness here, I do think Brian Kelly,

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01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: this is one of those where you're wondering would he serve?

1171
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 1: Would he survive the weekend if he loses by double

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01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: digits to Texas A and M Just something to ponder there. So, look,

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01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: the slate doesn't look great, right, but as any college

1174
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: football fan will tell you, it is the weeks that

1175
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 1: you're not expecting the craziness is when the craziness hits,

1176
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: you know. So I may have previewed those games, but

1177
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: when Syracuse knocks off Georgia Tech, or when South Carolina

1178
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: is lining up for the game winning field goal over Alabama,

1179
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: that's when you'll know this is one crazy ass weekend

1180
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: of college football. I'm not making either of those predictions,

1181
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: but the point is that's what kind of slated is

1182
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: this weekend where something weird is likely to happen. Obviously,

1183
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: being a Miami guy, I do not want the something

1184
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 1: weird to be happening at hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida,

1185
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 1: at seven pm on Saturday night. So with that, I

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01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: hope you have an excellent weekend. I hope if you

1187
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: are looking for distractions from the mess that is our democracy,

1188
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,759
Speaker 1: you find those distractions. If you've had time with family,

1189
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Speaker 1: enjoy that and I'll see in about ninety six hours

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Speaker 1: until I upload again. M h m hm