WEBVTT - Interview with Jerry West: Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>No, not come on.

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<v Speaker 2>On this episode of the Heat Check. It's part two,

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<v Speaker 2>Part two of the logo interview with Jerry fucking West,

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<v Speaker 2>and my goodness, the logo does not disappoint if you

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<v Speaker 2>did not listen to part one.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, what are you doing with your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Second of all, just put the headphones in because the

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<v Speaker 2>audio is a little not as clear as I am

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<v Speaker 2>right now. In this interview, Jerry West gives his opinion

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<v Speaker 2>on everything from the greatest team in NBA history, which

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<v Speaker 2>is an absolute shock, how he would construct a roster

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<v Speaker 2>around Lebron James from absolute scratch.

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<v Speaker 1>And that what everyone wants to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single person said, you wouldn't, you couldn't. He probably didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him about winning time.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to ask him about winning time.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think I wasn't gonna ask about that, fam,

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<v Speaker 2>I wait to the very last bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll repeat the caveat for the first interview. Due to

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<v Speaker 2>the nature of Summer League, not a ton of quiet

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<v Speaker 2>places to sit down. We ended up sitting inside of

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<v Speaker 2>a Starbucks. One little another aside. So we're at the Starbucks, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's this guy in front of us and We're

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<v Speaker 2>waiting in line to get food. I'm getting like an

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<v Speaker 2>iced tea. He's getting his little muffin and his hot coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy looks back at him. He's like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, Jerry West, and he's like yes, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, my whole life, I've worn forty four

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<v Speaker 2>every single place I've gone and played.

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<v Speaker 1>You're my absolute idol. Could you take a photo? Can

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<v Speaker 1>we take a photo together?

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<v Speaker 4>Blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I take the photo of them and he goes.

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<v Speaker 2>The patron goes, can I buy you guys your breakfast?

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<v Speaker 2>And I go and I look at him and I go,

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<v Speaker 2>why would you buy this wealthy guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I got no, this is what I said.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, why would you buy his rich ass food?

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<v Speaker 1>And Jerry starts like he's like, no, that's not necessary,

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<v Speaker 1>It's all good.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jerry looks at me and he goes, I'm not rich,

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<v Speaker 2>and I go, you're not and he goes, I'm wealthy. Yes. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>As a result, the audio has a lot of background

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<v Speaker 2>noise from the Starbucks and the conference that I talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>the Live Your Purpose conference, which a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>People were living their purpose. That was a tech.

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<v Speaker 2>Conference by the way, not sure how that's possible. This

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<v Speaker 2>interview has been edited for time and clarity. I will

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<v Speaker 2>introduce each topic for highlighting purposes, additional context for what

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry says, because I mean, there's a ton of nuggets.

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<v Speaker 1>That you just might not catch.

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<v Speaker 5>So let's go drop.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've spoken to Jerry about this before, the change

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<v Speaker 2>and evolution in the game, the over abundance of threes.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's not a fan.

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<v Speaker 2>The question is how do I get him to say

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<v Speaker 2>he's not a fan? I thought I would ask him

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<v Speaker 2>about it for this podcast. His answer did not disappoint,

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<v Speaker 2>but as an added bonus to me asking like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>me and you have joked about this before, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think about you know, the over emphasis. It leads

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<v Speaker 2>into this fascinating discussion about who he believes is the

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<v Speaker 2>most dominant team in NBA history. Just let's stop right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just break this down. I've never heard anyone, when

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<v Speaker 2>discussing the all time greatest teams, mentioned the eighty seven

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<v Speaker 2>eighty eight Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>This just never happened.

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<v Speaker 2>This just doesn't look at every list, It just doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost everyone else mentions.

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<v Speaker 2>The eighty six eighty seven Lakers as a top five

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<v Speaker 2>team in NBA history, But Jerry West prefers the eighty

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<v Speaker 2>seven eighty eight team, which is the team that repeated,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the team who traded.

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<v Speaker 3>For former number one overall.

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<v Speaker 2>Pick Michael Thompson. That is the difference in the roster

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Thompson. In order to get Michael Thompson, they gave

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<v Speaker 2>up two first round picks and two players for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Riley as soon as the trade got announced, he

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<v Speaker 2>came in and said all kinds of amazing things about

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<v Speaker 2>what he thought Michael Thompson was going to do for

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<v Speaker 2>this team. He came in to back up Kareem. This

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<v Speaker 2>is what pat Riley said about Thompson. Michael Thompson's more

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<v Speaker 2>than a role player. He's a frontline player. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>shooter who can fit right into the low post offense

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<v Speaker 2>that we run for Kareem. He's also an excellent defensive player,

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<v Speaker 2>very strong, very smart, and a good passer. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>a one dimensional player. An absolute beast Michael Thompson. How

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<v Speaker 2>excited were the Lakers when they acquired him? Well, when

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<v Speaker 2>they requested Thompson's stats from the Spurs, they also asked

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<v Speaker 2>for Thompson's ring size. Also, they picked up Tony Campbell,

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<v Speaker 2>who if you're a Timberwolf fan you probably know him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the second leading scorer in Timberwolve's history. He averaged

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<v Speaker 2>twelve points per game for the Lakers in right around

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen minutes per game. By the way, this eighty seven

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<v Speaker 2>eighty eight Lakers team was the only team in NBA history.

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<v Speaker 1>With four number one overall.

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<v Speaker 2>Picks on the team. This is the pinnacle of showtime.

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<v Speaker 2>With Magic at the height of his powers, Kareem is

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<v Speaker 2>still a force in his second to last year, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is a roster full of stars. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>not on Google looking it up, because I had to

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<v Speaker 2>do the same. James Worthy's on this team Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Famer average twenty points per game on fifty three percent shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>Byron's Scott is on this team average twenty two points

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<v Speaker 2>per game that year. Michael Cooper Michael Cooper coming off

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<v Speaker 2>the bench, defensive player of the Year of the year

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<v Speaker 2>before Michael Thompson, we already talked about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Rambis.

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<v Speaker 2>We know Kurt Rambis, friend of the show, Kurt and

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<v Speaker 2>Linda Hardeno's player who ended up winning four titles with

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers and Ac Green from Portland, Oregon, confirmed Player

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<v Speaker 2>All Star who won titles with Magic and Kareem and and.

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe and Shack.

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<v Speaker 2>The team ran the fast break better than anyone in history. Still, though,

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<v Speaker 2>could also run the half court offense better than almost

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<v Speaker 2>anyone else's well through Kareem and Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>Teammate look not on paper.

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<v Speaker 2>As fast as other teams in history, but listen when

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<v Speaker 2>they got out into transition and they wanted to run,

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like they were all looking to pr for

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<v Speaker 2>their forty meter dash. They were sprinting. They were impossible

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<v Speaker 2>to keep up with. Getting the ball in the block

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<v Speaker 2>to Kareem, of course, allowed them to slow things down,

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<v Speaker 2>which changes the average of their pace of play. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>what Jerry said about this team, but also in the

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<v Speaker 2>meantime explained why the three point has become a solve

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<v Speaker 2>for less talented teams than teams like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Fascinating stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyl Lou, for those who don't know, came back and

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<v Speaker 2>beat the Mavericks after they look cooked, and then beat

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<v Speaker 2>the met and then beat the Jazz after being down

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five points in the third quarter of Game six.

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<v Speaker 1>Many people know Tylou for.

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<v Speaker 2>Being Lebron James's coach coming back from three to one

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<v Speaker 2>with the Cleveland Cavaliers. Other historians know Tylu for being

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor when Ai stepped over him. Jerry West,

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<v Speaker 2>the Laker executive, drafted Tylo, so there's a long standing

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<v Speaker 2>relationship here.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Strikes me about this is this piece is that the

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<v Speaker 2>there's an admission that the Clippers should have been dogshit

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<v Speaker 2>last year. He is shocked that they won as many

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<v Speaker 2>games as they did. He is shocked that they even

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<v Speaker 2>sniffed the playoffs considering how many injuries this team had.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about it. Kawhi was gone for the year

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<v Speaker 2>and Paul George. If you had to ask yourself, how

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<v Speaker 2>many games do I think Paul George played last year?

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<v Speaker 5>How many?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty one games?

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<v Speaker 2>At eighty two? He is legit shocked at the Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>that the Clippers scrapped and scraped to get forty two wins,

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<v Speaker 2>just five games less than they had last year with

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<v Speaker 2>both superstar players. So listen to where Jerry rinks ty

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<v Speaker 2>Lou in the coaching hierarchy of today's NBA and why

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<v Speaker 2>Tylu was one of the ones who ran a player

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<v Speaker 2>off the floor.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw it in the Utah series, but they were down.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to say three to one.

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<v Speaker 2>That series against the Mass and that series against Utah

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<v Speaker 2>was the series where I really said to myself, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I was incredibly wrong about Tyle Lou because the brand

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<v Speaker 2>or the.

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<v Speaker 3>Reputation was Okay, he had.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron, Lebron and Kyrie, but his coaching against the Mass

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<v Speaker 2>and his coaching against the Jazz was really impressive.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, he's simply one of the best coaching moves people

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<v Speaker 6>don't know yet and playing for.

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<v Speaker 7>Him just like okay, he's not afraid. He believes and

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<v Speaker 7>Lais believes him. And I want to say when people

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<v Speaker 7>talking about coaches.

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<v Speaker 8>Who THEFA would like three in the league this coaching

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<v Speaker 8>the more importantly he the fantastic guys, which is so

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<v Speaker 8>easy to be around. When more importantly he's so smart

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<v Speaker 8>and he has a great, great way about him employer

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<v Speaker 8>as you know, he's not that old and I drafted

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<v Speaker 8>him that I in Los Angeles and he's.

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<v Speaker 7>Just the bullbop that he's trying. But I feel fortunately he's.

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<v Speaker 9>All the fun.

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<v Speaker 7>We'd have a end region.

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<v Speaker 6>Such of your two the best players you know here,

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<v Speaker 6>it's amazing that we won with the mini games.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a favorite Tylo story that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>highlights and personifies him?

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<v Speaker 7>I do, but I can't talk about I have a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of them ventified.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, a lot of someone for some reason, he's

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<v Speaker 10>got a different personality.

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<v Speaker 6>And he can be really funny.

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<v Speaker 7>He also be very part and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>things that you know, you talk about always not the

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<v Speaker 7>best slang leasions of player, but he's he's easy to

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<v Speaker 7>be around. He really expect I don't have.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>In the middle of describing what makes Tyl so special,

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<v Speaker 2>he also takes time to fire shots at the play

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<v Speaker 2>in tournament, the play in.

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<v Speaker 7>Which I don't like at all.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's an in horrible mistur because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you can take one game and.

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<v Speaker 7>The side of season you wor it of work. I

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<v Speaker 7>just don't like it.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm sure if you missed it probably doesn't want

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<v Speaker 8>to give them the senate that.

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<v Speaker 7>I just think it's worthless to me.

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<v Speaker 6>And the danger and the danger is that these teams

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<v Speaker 6>are flowed over year and the label year.

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<v Speaker 7>If you get a couple of injuries or you can't,

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<v Speaker 7>they can't play for a couple of.

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<v Speaker 6>The gamer one game you decide you see it that's

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<v Speaker 6>gonna be and I just don't.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't like it. I just think I don't know

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<v Speaker 7>what the concept.

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<v Speaker 1>Is legit hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>The funniest thing about this clip is how Jerry answers

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<v Speaker 2>the question about how far the Clippers could have gone

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<v Speaker 2>last year in the playoffs, considering, I think it's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>wide open, the fact that the MAVs got the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that the Suns were exposed, the fact that the Warriors

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<v Speaker 2>broke through, the Bucks got injured. Seemed like the Clippers

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<v Speaker 2>had a real shot if they were healthy, right. He

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<v Speaker 2>humbly talks about really how it doesn't matter because we

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<v Speaker 2>can never go backwards. But then he also says something fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, you know, teams are gonna defenses are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>wait on you. But when you have really elite players,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter whether they wait on you or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing you can do to stop them.

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<v Speaker 2>I E.

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<v Speaker 1>Kawhi, I E.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul George, kind of a subtle like, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we could have gone deep. He also addresses whether Kawhi

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<v Speaker 2>could have come back in the playoffs if they would

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<v Speaker 2>have made the playoffs, and Paul George didn't get COVID

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<v Speaker 2>and they didn't lose to the Pelicans. And finally, whether

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<v Speaker 2>Kawhi is any different than the outside world views him,

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<v Speaker 2>considering that they have a very good relationship, really insightful,

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting stuff. If Paul George doesn't get COVID or

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<v Speaker 2>go into health and safety protocols against the Pelicans, how

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<v Speaker 2>far do the Clippers go?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think last year, given how wide opening was.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm not sure if it's wide open.

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<v Speaker 8>This was a really good team, but I will say

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<v Speaker 8>this through a thick and pan last year they found

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<v Speaker 8>the way.

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<v Speaker 7>Then it's as hard in the playoffs and there's more

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<v Speaker 7>cloches from the pages. They have a chance to see and.

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<v Speaker 8>Play, and half the time is there're just defenders are

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<v Speaker 8>waiting on it. And if you have those truly great players,

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<v Speaker 8>it doesn't make any difference. They still be waiting on

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<v Speaker 8>me and they were being player and so and that's

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<v Speaker 8>why I've hurt Nuncle Hamton's best player players.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you know, it's only a guess I'll find

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<v Speaker 7>out of you. Look at that. To me, it's a

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<v Speaker 7>hand of yut thread which they didn't work out that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there a scenario if there was a long playoff

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<v Speaker 2>run that Kawhi could have come back in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm pretty sure he could. I'm sure sure he could.

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<v Speaker 8>And to hit him obviously get him back is like

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<v Speaker 8>a god said, and uh, he wasn't and we didn't

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<v Speaker 8>get there, so we'll never know.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned that people misunderstand you. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>people misunderstand Kawai as well?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think he's different than the outside world sees him. No,

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<v Speaker 5>he's the same.

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<v Speaker 8>I love for what he's he's a basketball player, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>and just watching him work out and see how serious

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<v Speaker 8>he is.

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<v Speaker 5>So he's not as playful as as you.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I'm much more placy. Yeah, but I'm much crazier him.

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<v Speaker 7>He has a much greater focus working out on his own.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know he's if you're around him when he

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<v Speaker 6>first came there, and obviously.

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<v Speaker 8>You know I wasn't running the team, but I go

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<v Speaker 8>to crackers of him an all time. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 8>just trying to rewatch and you watch and watch and

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<v Speaker 8>you probbabs, you can appreciate, You watch the greatness that

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<v Speaker 8>he has as a player, but you you wanted sometimes

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<v Speaker 8>you know why doesn't he happening.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, he's been there. I have had the pleasure of

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<v Speaker 7>getting to know him a little bit better, and.

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<v Speaker 6>It's impossible not to be in fatiated. And he's got

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<v Speaker 6>a wide censored human or he's a probe he really did.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing about this clip that was so interesting, not

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<v Speaker 2>only in the fact that the Clippers weakness was passing

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<v Speaker 2>last year and that was the admission, is that when

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<v Speaker 2>describing John Wall, Jerry says that John Wall is a

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<v Speaker 2>great guy, but his reputation around those who cover the

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<v Speaker 2>league is not that he has been known to be

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<v Speaker 2>someone that pundits take shots at for being too self

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<v Speaker 2>focused or who knows. So I wanted to get at

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<v Speaker 2>why John Wall was such a polarizing figure. And another

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<v Speaker 2>thing that came out of this process though, was a

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<v Speaker 2>little nugget and what the Clippers vetting process us was

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<v Speaker 2>like in acquiring a player like John and how he

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<v Speaker 2>also thinks the Clippers are the deepest team in the

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<v Speaker 2>league and he wouldn't trade it for anybody else. John

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<v Speaker 2>Wall one of the biggest I would say pickups, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most interesting pickups that took forever in the

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<v Speaker 2>day to actually come to fruition a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>I think thought that deal would get.

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<v Speaker 3>Done or that move would get made last year.

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<v Speaker 5>What does he bring to the team.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, he fan's another guy that looked like to play basketball.

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<v Speaker 7>He can get in the lane you find our three

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<v Speaker 7>point shooters. It's probably weakness in our team last year.

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<v Speaker 8>Passing he would give us in upgrade and being able

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<v Speaker 8>to attack with the basket.

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<v Speaker 7>And he's a good guy.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, he loves to play and we're just hoping that

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<v Speaker 8>he can stay healthy. Watching him work out, he looked fantastic,

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<v Speaker 8>great ja he's bringing.

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<v Speaker 9>He's been working out out the year.

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<v Speaker 6>That would be a pretty good vacation to make that

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<v Speaker 6>kind of money and not get a chance to play.

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<v Speaker 7>I would have liked it much. It would have been

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<v Speaker 7>probably of four thousand.

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<v Speaker 5>You mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>Great guy. And he's a polarizing figure too. There's been

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<v Speaker 2>people who have said things about him and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that they necessarily know him. Well, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think there's this, like, I don't know, disparity in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the opinion on him as a as a guy.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what, I don't see it any people the

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<v Speaker 7>same thing and what you got and may have.

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<v Speaker 9>Been clear the rumor from.

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<v Speaker 8>An unknown silist bes we see all the find I

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<v Speaker 8>always they would identify the Solmsons times it just has not.

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<v Speaker 7>That's not who he is. Is that who we've seen

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<v Speaker 7>about that players really like him. A lot of our

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<v Speaker 7>players know him. And so a player comes somewhere, Uh

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<v Speaker 7>have you re checked the players? I mean protect the

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<v Speaker 7>ones to know him.

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<v Speaker 11>And while we've heard of the good things and all,

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<v Speaker 11>I can go and say, just what your I see

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<v Speaker 11>that that moment is how you know know about that?

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<v Speaker 7>And who's just again, you're really good for us right now?

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<v Speaker 7>So it's not just starting to see them.

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<v Speaker 8>We will starts because this is a powerful team, the Clippers,

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<v Speaker 8>that thouleful team in the note all.

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<v Speaker 7>Right from one to ten team.

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<v Speaker 6>I did not say just it's the team for any

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<v Speaker 6>team on the That doesn't mean we're the best team.

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<v Speaker 7>But I would not play for any.

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<v Speaker 5>Game or let you think they're the deepest team.

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<v Speaker 7>That's why I say three third finger. Yeah, yes, I see.

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<v Speaker 2>So this question was out of left field, no segue,

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<v Speaker 2>There was no connection to him or the Clippers or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to know, how do you build a

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<v Speaker 2>roster around Lebron James If it's you, Jerry West, and

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<v Speaker 2>all you have is Lebron?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do? How do you best set them

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<v Speaker 1>up for success?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you build around him in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>makes your team more likely to win a championship but

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<v Speaker 2>also accentuates.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes Lebron so great? Pretty simple, awesome stuff from Jerry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious about Lebron and him as a style of player.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously dominant, that's been said, But if you have Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>on your team and no one else, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think is the best way to build a roster around

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<v Speaker 2>someone like him or him specifically.

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<v Speaker 8>Again, yeah, if you look at him, I think it

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<v Speaker 8>makes him to you the more he's already missed his game,

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<v Speaker 8>called that he's one of the smartest players have never

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<v Speaker 8>player in the game. I think he's better with an

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<v Speaker 8>open court. I would try to have a team that shooting,

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<v Speaker 8>I could run. People can run, and that's names that

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<v Speaker 8>you play that's taken.

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<v Speaker 9>Attacking round and he's going to pick out people to run.

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<v Speaker 7>That's beams really dominant.

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<v Speaker 8>And sometimes when you get involved down in a half

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<v Speaker 8>fullt if you have another player playing with him and

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<v Speaker 8>you know, let's say you're because he's so worthily moved

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<v Speaker 8>on other players.

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<v Speaker 7>You're playing up front when you win. I think that's

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<v Speaker 7>hurts you a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>You think it would be better in the block.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh no, no, right, no, penates fates and say because

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<v Speaker 6>the size and the fastest ability, he's one of the

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<v Speaker 6>three greatest players in the player.

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<v Speaker 8>He's gonna have taunting figure, he's gonna break every record

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<v Speaker 8>in this layer and he's someone that greatly amount of

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<v Speaker 8>person like I do. Uh, it's hard to do what

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<v Speaker 8>he's done. But he cares about the building, cares about women,

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<v Speaker 8>who's rhythmed to take care of himself. When you ever

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<v Speaker 8>hear anything bad about him, Yeah, he is a content.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's guys not necessarily point guards because he plays that,

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<v Speaker 2>but combo guards that can shoot the three and also

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<v Speaker 2>handle and pass and kind of kind of. That's that long,

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<v Speaker 2>versatile defender that you guys like that.

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<v Speaker 5>The Toronto likes somebody challenge.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's a challenge because the problem is with the

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<v Speaker 7>team on him. They're usually drafting very low. Yes, they

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<v Speaker 7>don't get in any areas they can find on those players.

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<v Speaker 7>They doesn't have to be in the top ken. They

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<v Speaker 7>should do more later than half. Really second rate and

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<v Speaker 7>might find a player like that and hopefully that will happen.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a.

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<v Speaker 9>Little thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Rosters with him on it look different than other rosters

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<v Speaker 2>that people construct, just because of all the unique things

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<v Speaker 2>that he can do.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you put you know, you put him with players

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<v Speaker 7>that are where he didn't every night just have it.

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<v Speaker 7>Doesn't have it a scoring roll. He know a lot

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<v Speaker 7>better than well. And people don't realize how wearing and

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<v Speaker 7>how dependent the people have come home and go.

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<v Speaker 6>They just take him some granted, and so he does

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<v Speaker 6>it every night and he's you need but some might

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<v Speaker 6>some heights with roses. How hard you trying to screw it?

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<v Speaker 6>Some nights you just can't. You can't make the shots

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<v Speaker 6>if you normally make. And he's only been to score

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<v Speaker 6>because he's gonna blaw files and get him the three film.

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<v Speaker 6>But he's a player that.

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<v Speaker 7>Really greatly am that you've been brilliant for so long and.

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<v Speaker 8>Guy Christou says he's had he's had to say he's

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<v Speaker 8>gonna drink all the records.

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<v Speaker 7>He's been there for a number of year. Gene. That's

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<v Speaker 7>the amazing tribute, if not only to his play, but doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So a little behind the scenes here.

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<v Speaker 2>So before I ask this question, and I'm a little

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<v Speaker 2>hesitant in asking it, so I'm a little long winded

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<v Speaker 2>in getting there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm trying to get him to address Winning Time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure out way to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've had lunch with Jerry a few times, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've been out with them socially as well, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>never seen him drink, not one time, not once. So

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it was really fascinated that Winning Time made

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<v Speaker 2>him look like an alcoholic, just made him look like

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who throws his trophy through his office window

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<v Speaker 2>and that he's at the bar getting fucked up meeting

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<v Speaker 2>his future wife. Crazy shit, I was because I saw

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<v Speaker 2>a Winning Time after we met extremely sus at this depiction.

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<v Speaker 2>So I asked him about alcohol use, thinking that might

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<v Speaker 2>lead us into the Winning Time discussion. But we actually

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<v Speaker 2>ended up on this really interesting side road somehow about

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<v Speaker 2>the blueprint on giving constructive criticism, how you balance being

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<v Speaker 2>brutally honest and being a relationship guy, because I think

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 2>that's insanely hard to balance. And then somehow we got

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<v Speaker 2>on the role of social media and debate show talking

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<v Speaker 2>heads in today's NBA then he throws subtle shade at

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers, at stephen A, at JJ Reddick.

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<v Speaker 1>What a turn. Did not expect this.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, gotta remember we're about an hour and

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<v Speaker 2>a half into this interview and he is cooking. One

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<v Speaker 2>of the craziest things that I saw and that I've

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<v Speaker 2>known about you for a long time is that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't drink. And I'm pretty sure correct me if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>wrong that you've never had well.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, as I say, I don't say, I don't

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<v Speaker 7>mean it, okay, but there have never any alcohol in

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<v Speaker 7>the family.

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<v Speaker 9>Might if I drink after me my night have a

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<v Speaker 9>block in time.

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<v Speaker 7>But I'm not gonnath at all. Like I don't like

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<v Speaker 7>that it does to any if I'm not, I just.

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<v Speaker 9>Don't like it.

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<v Speaker 7>Ring I was around their family and my father smo heavily.

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<v Speaker 7>There's no way that I.

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<v Speaker 8>Can smoke anything and listen, I'm not appropriate others I'm

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<v Speaker 8>going to get pro fascinated because there's things I've just

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<v Speaker 8>woke the doer.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm not going to I'm not gonna. Yeah, some

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<v Speaker 7>people don't, I'm really honest, and some people don't. MENTIONINGEDI

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<v Speaker 7>with that, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>An interesting question.

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<v Speaker 2>So, how do you balance that being brutally honest in

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<v Speaker 2>a talent evaluation role when people are kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>there's another industry out there to try to.

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<v Speaker 5>Make things out to be bigger than they are.

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<v Speaker 7>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 5>You just don't care.

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<v Speaker 8>Social media and particularly these people can get on us

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<v Speaker 8>the hair and criticize players and next day they'll come

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<v Speaker 8>back and.

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<v Speaker 7>Kiss and make up. I don't like them, but they

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<v Speaker 7>do it for the people. Will they're free ad contubable.

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<v Speaker 7>Some of these players are not concidency doing you all

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<v Speaker 7>who deal?

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<v Speaker 8>And you know I've watched this year sent things written

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<v Speaker 8>about the field god players.

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<v Speaker 7>And the owner. They are why you're not going to

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<v Speaker 7>change you right? This is who they are. And I

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<v Speaker 7>think it's got to be embarrassing going away.

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<v Speaker 3>What is it hard for you knowing that you're brutally honest?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that impact and you're also a relationship oriented person?

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<v Speaker 5>How do you balance those two things?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, you know somebody will come up. We'll say to you,

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<v Speaker 12>you know I want to know this, okay, And I said, look,

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<v Speaker 12>this is only my opinion. You and me tell you

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<v Speaker 12>what you want to hear, or.

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<v Speaker 13>If you want to tell you what I think and

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<v Speaker 13>sometimes I want to tell you what I think about

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<v Speaker 13>what I t I said, it's not a reflect when

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<v Speaker 13>you re reflection on how you can get better, not

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<v Speaker 13>only as a player, but as a person, how.

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<v Speaker 9>You can interact with people that how people will.

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<v Speaker 7>Be a more accepting of you.

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<v Speaker 8>I said, the most astarming thinking will I think it's

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<v Speaker 8>a smile and yeah, I just I'm pretty simple.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm very pretty simple.

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<v Speaker 10>And I don't think it's kind of a life in

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<v Speaker 10>this league today. It's almost forgotten to company. It's the

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<v Speaker 10>excessive amount of publishing, the excessive now content.

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<v Speaker 8>About the players that are in our league, and I'm

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<v Speaker 8>not always looking something to do longer thy.

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<v Speaker 7>W D stand it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 8>And some of the people on the air and who

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<v Speaker 8>i'll watch ex players, players who's accomplished basically nothing you

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<v Speaker 8>talking about the game in their opinion.

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<v Speaker 7>When I play, I've been talking about how I play.

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<v Speaker 7>It was a completely different area the day of saying well,

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<v Speaker 7>I thought, I've got to be my meaning.

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<v Speaker 6>Though I'm older, reading reading things that are meanings, of

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<v Speaker 6>reading about history, reading about people who have inspired I say,

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<v Speaker 6>even though I'm battle the person that's terrible, I do

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<v Speaker 6>care about people are and some people and NBA players,

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<v Speaker 6>the players and others wore.

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<v Speaker 7>I want to feel like if.

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<v Speaker 8>Everyone crazy when they're with their franchise and the next

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<v Speaker 8>second they trade him, and.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know you're just a numbers. We want to

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<v Speaker 7>see you.

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<v Speaker 6>As I mentioned, players have places where they want to

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<v Speaker 6>go with today, and you know they want anyone seemingly

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<v Speaker 6>wants to go to a big market.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna go to the place where I can win.

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<v Speaker 8>I suppose you're good enough. If you're good inough, they

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<v Speaker 8>can help a lot more money if your own team

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<v Speaker 8>than you came if you have a tall Also, some

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<v Speaker 8>places where you go.

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<v Speaker 7>And everything looks great, you get there and you'll find

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 7>out there's not good.

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<v Speaker 5>Why does it work? Just get around?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh well there's a couple of a lot of different

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<v Speaker 7>Well we don't go. If you heard that, just out

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<v Speaker 7>just looked the other good when those people.

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<v Speaker 9>Are I don't go.

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<v Speaker 7>Over the years, I've learned why.

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<v Speaker 10>I think crush if I'll use that to discussed plus

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<v Speaker 10>crush just sell anything.

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<v Speaker 7>And there's been some trust in my life have been betrayed,

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<v Speaker 7>and I don't do you know where I have it

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<v Speaker 7>like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just frankly that bother here it is, folks here,

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>it is. What did Jerry West think about winning Time?

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<v Speaker 3>When I saw that HBO series, I wondered, did they

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 3>get anything right?

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<v Speaker 5>It's not like they got pretty much everything.

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<v Speaker 4>But I really don't I really don't want to find them.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh there's a complete line. It's a complete line they

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<v Speaker 4>have if forgetting me. Okay, yeah, we're getting me. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't care what any other says.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to right exactly now.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know those people. I don't want to know

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 7>the dir any money. Yeah, but that was disgraced for

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 6>And uh then for some reason, I would details any

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 6>case that means a feeling good story.

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<v Speaker 8>That was the start of an era in Los Angeles,

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 8>and Gary Blessed the others made the Lakers for years

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 8>the most popular being intent and to.

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<v Speaker 7>Me to find the story that about detroying the people

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 7>who were involved in it. It's very of time. That's

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 7>this place.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the concept of an owner to say, let's

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<v Speaker 3>just do whatever it takes to win.

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<v Speaker 5>When I look and.

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<v Speaker 2>Read about that time, that's the thing that sticks out

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 2>is just how rare and special and hard it is

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 2>for owners.

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<v Speaker 7>To do that different.

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<v Speaker 8>The team today we have immensely don't be in this

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 8>of course, because they won an young profession. They don't

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 8>understand how hard the time.

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<v Speaker 7>They don't. They think it's easy. The more money is sad,

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 7>it's not gonna do it. Sometimes people spend a lot

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 7>of money and they're hopefully losing. They're not going to

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<v Speaker 7>get better.

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<v Speaker 8>And once it gets kind of stuck in the middle,

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<v Speaker 8>if you don't find a way to get out of there,

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<v Speaker 8>you're gonna be a younger.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, he retire that because every you'll lead is looking

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 7>every team in the way.

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 8>Look what happens when they leave a great player from

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 8>some franchise that just began to give a numbers and

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 8>frustrating for the fans.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh every neumerous social fos in the draft can be

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<v Speaker 6>but it's uh pleasing, and I wouldn't then we don't

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:21.479
<v Speaker 6>answer to him.

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<v Speaker 7>They don't know. I do believe in ownership of lot.

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 7>We've been to you, We've been involved with floor owners

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<v Speaker 7>and I in the n H on this side kind of.

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 7>Wilber's really been a fan of the house. And I

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 7>think the lucky stars you can leave them in the

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 7>help you have anything wrong with today? Who is the

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 7>most amazing man I've ever seen, an abod who was

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<v Speaker 7>just when the league individual who was a giver the work,

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 7>and he and his wife do some of the public

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<v Speaker 7>clock ex cantime. There's a name when he is a

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 7>great man.

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<v Speaker 14>He is a great man at so at this point

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<v Speaker 14>in my life and this is life, you know, this

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 14>is kind of my entire lower at the end of

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 14>the day.

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 7>And I've had a chance to get to Turner like playing.

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<v Speaker 8>During US, like during US long figurating US and the oldys.

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 7>Never like a man who keeping above.

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<v Speaker 14>Time and get at a little quieter for sure. And

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 14>Steve is a little bit more lambastic, but fantastic and

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 14>I feel a freaking me.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite thing that he did was He's like, I'm

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 2>not going to comment on that, and then he just

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>proceeded to comment and comment and comment some more.

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>He was very honest, very open to the core. You

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>could tell he's not happy about it. We'll just say that.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>So to close up this interview, I wanted to ask.

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Jerry about what I heard whispers of, which is that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a standing room only section that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>put in the new Clippers arena to create an atmosphere

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>very cheap tickets, an atmosphere of the student section in

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>college basketball, to create a real home court advantage, and

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 2>to make it volatile for opposing teams. Heard about it,

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is awesome, So I asked him about it.

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 2>He talks about that, of course, but casually drops that

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 2>he does not care about championship rings so much so

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't even know where any of his are. He

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 2>also then reveals why he doesn't like court side seats,

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and lastly, most importantly, he says some real nice things

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 2>about me and his parting thoughts on the record, No doubt,

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Let's make a montage something that I can keep handy

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 2>on my cell phone when I end up sad and

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 2>down a rabbit hole of Twitter trolls.

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<v Speaker 1>He tell me, I don't know anything about basketball. I

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>should be fine.

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Lastly, you told me about something that's happening to the

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<v Speaker 2>new arena, a really cool feature that is going to

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 2>add to the fan experience.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell me about that if you can.

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 7>Steven, yeah, he's you know, he he doesn't do things,

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 7>but just to great monkey. Yeah he doesn't. He wants

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 7>the fanings here, and there's gonna be a hold of

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 7>each you a lot of blue. See it's gonna hold

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 7>be a whole section of it. Sets. Yeah, it's a

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 7>good seed any mo.

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 6>And I promise you let me if they're with And

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 6>again the prices ipe what they were going to row

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 6>age and I said, oh my.

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 7>God, I said this is this would be fun and

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 7>college like rappers, so they'll.

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<v Speaker 5>Be reasonable reasonable crisis the.

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 6>Low reasonship a low reason and in some of these

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 6>places he's going out and floor suits in particular, and

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 6>how razy.

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 7>That's what people will do to have the received. And

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 7>after I can said demand, people are going to be.

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<v Speaker 6>Seen and they want to put you down there and

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 6>hopefully someone will run over them and I'll hurt them

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 6>and they'll have a picture of it.

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 7>For there's that book. I don't even like to fir Sea.

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 7>You can't see the game, but people who like to

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 7>be close.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 6>To the action, they like to hear a little law

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 6>language of times and the facial expression.

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 7>Of it that man, I just say, it's selling. Disagree there.

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 7>It will be amazing and it's gonna be a nasty

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 7>plays for people.

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 8>Walt Aner, this are really close to the four I

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 8>remember when stateful first over them, I said, oh my god,

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 8>want people, it's so far in the action.

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<v Speaker 6>Then at four of the one time may the best

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 6>place to watch the basketball game? We so close and four,

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 6>But it really didn't work financier because the even.

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 8>More revenue maintaining players, and also it enhances the value

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 8>of the franchise.

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 6>And as I say, this is a different NBA than

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 6>you've seen them the floor. It'll be different five years

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 6>from now, but it's still and it's very simple.

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 7>The game very safety, and that's that's gone to the charge.

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:05.839
<v Speaker 3>And if you don't stand the whole time, you get

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 3>kicked out right.

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure. I'm not sure what the policy is,

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 7>but I'm sure that's what we steve. We'll be up

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 7>there with me half the time.

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that'll be fun. I appreciate you. I hope

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 3>you get another ring.

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:19.399
<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure.

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 9>I don't.

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 7>You really don't mean a lot to me. I'll have

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:22.919
<v Speaker 7>a few.

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 9>I don't even know where they are.

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say that you don't even know where the

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 2>rings are, Like you don't know, it's not in the

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>safe somewhere.

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 5>They're just gone, like in a random drawer.

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 8>So I mean somewhere okay, and you know they're they're fun,

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 8>you're hard to get and hopefully every.

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 6>Team employer or what if binyam on that's that's a great.

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<v Speaker 2>You have been gracious and fun and insightful, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have taken up way too much of your time.

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