Speaker 1: No, not come on.
Speaker 2: On this episode of the Heat Check. It's part two,
Speaker 2: Part two of the logo interview with Jerry fucking West,
Speaker 2: and my goodness, the logo does not disappoint if you
Speaker 2: did not listen to part one.
Speaker 1: First of all, what are you doing with your life?
Speaker 2: Second of all, just put the headphones in because the
Speaker 2: audio is a little not as clear as I am
Speaker 2: right now. In this interview, Jerry West gives his opinion
Speaker 2: on everything from the greatest team in NBA history, which
Speaker 2: is an absolute shock, how he would construct a roster
Speaker 2: around Lebron James from absolute scratch.
Speaker 1: And that what everyone wants to know.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Every single person said, you wouldn't, you couldn't. He probably didn't.
Speaker 1: I asked him about winning time.
Speaker 3: Have to ask him about winning time.
Speaker 2: If you think I wasn't gonna ask about that, fam,
Speaker 2: I wait to the very last bit.
Speaker 1: But we got there.
Speaker 2: I'll repeat the caveat for the first interview. Due to
Speaker 2: the nature of Summer League, not a ton of quiet
Speaker 2: places to sit down. We ended up sitting inside of
Speaker 2: a Starbucks. One little another aside. So we're at the Starbucks, right,
Speaker 2: and there's this guy in front of us and We're
Speaker 2: waiting in line to get food. I'm getting like an
Speaker 2: iced tea. He's getting his little muffin and his hot coffee.
Speaker 2: And the guy looks back at him. He's like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, Jerry West, and he's like yes, and he goes,
Speaker 2: oh my god, my whole life, I've worn forty four
Speaker 2: every single place I've gone and played.
Speaker 1: You're my absolute idol. Could you take a photo? Can
Speaker 1: we take a photo together?
Speaker 4: Blah blah.
Speaker 2: So I take the photo of them and he goes.
Speaker 2: The patron goes, can I buy you guys your breakfast?
Speaker 2: And I go and I look at him and I go,
Speaker 2: why would you buy this wealthy guy?
Speaker 1: I got no, this is what I said.
Speaker 2: I say, why would you buy his rich ass food?
Speaker 1: And Jerry starts like he's like, no, that's not necessary,
Speaker 1: It's all good.
Speaker 2: And Jerry looks at me and he goes, I'm not rich,
Speaker 2: and I go, you're not and he goes, I'm wealthy. Yes. Yes.
Speaker 2: As a result, the audio has a lot of background
Speaker 2: noise from the Starbucks and the conference that I talked about,
Speaker 2: the Live Your Purpose conference, which a lot of.
Speaker 1: People were living their purpose. That was a tech.
Speaker 2: Conference by the way, not sure how that's possible. This
Speaker 2: interview has been edited for time and clarity. I will
Speaker 2: introduce each topic for highlighting purposes, additional context for what
Speaker 2: Jerry says, because I mean, there's a ton of nuggets.
Speaker 1: That you just might not catch.
Speaker 5: So let's go drop.
Speaker 2: So I've spoken to Jerry about this before, the change
Speaker 2: and evolution in the game, the over abundance of threes.
Speaker 1: I know he's not a fan.
Speaker 2: The question is how do I get him to say
Speaker 2: he's not a fan? I thought I would ask him
Speaker 2: about it for this podcast. His answer did not disappoint,
Speaker 2: but as an added bonus to me asking like, hey,
Speaker 2: me and you have joked about this before, what do
Speaker 2: you think about you know, the over emphasis. It leads
Speaker 2: into this fascinating discussion about who he believes is the
Speaker 2: most dominant team in NBA history. Just let's stop right here.
Speaker 2: Let's just break this down. I've never heard anyone, when
Speaker 2: discussing the all time greatest teams, mentioned the eighty seven
Speaker 2: eighty eight Lakers.
Speaker 1: This just never happened.
Speaker 2: This just doesn't look at every list, It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Almost everyone else mentions.
Speaker 2: The eighty six eighty seven Lakers as a top five
Speaker 2: team in NBA history, But Jerry West prefers the eighty
Speaker 2: seven eighty eight team, which is the team that repeated,
Speaker 2: which is the team who traded.
Speaker 3: For former number one overall.
Speaker 2: Pick Michael Thompson. That is the difference in the roster
Speaker 2: Michael Thompson. In order to get Michael Thompson, they gave
Speaker 2: up two first round picks and two players for him.
Speaker 2: Pat Riley as soon as the trade got announced, he
Speaker 2: came in and said all kinds of amazing things about
Speaker 2: what he thought Michael Thompson was going to do for
Speaker 2: this team. He came in to back up Kareem. This
Speaker 2: is what pat Riley said about Thompson. Michael Thompson's more
Speaker 2: than a role player. He's a frontline player. He's a
Speaker 2: shooter who can fit right into the low post offense
Speaker 2: that we run for Kareem. He's also an excellent defensive player,
Speaker 2: very strong, very smart, and a good passer. He's not
Speaker 2: a one dimensional player. An absolute beast Michael Thompson. How
Speaker 2: excited were the Lakers when they acquired him? Well, when
Speaker 2: they requested Thompson's stats from the Spurs, they also asked
Speaker 2: for Thompson's ring size. Also, they picked up Tony Campbell,
Speaker 2: who if you're a Timberwolf fan you probably know him.
Speaker 2: He's the second leading scorer in Timberwolve's history. He averaged
Speaker 2: twelve points per game for the Lakers in right around
Speaker 2: eighteen minutes per game. By the way, this eighty seven
Speaker 2: eighty eight Lakers team was the only team in NBA history.
Speaker 1: With four number one overall.
Speaker 2: Picks on the team. This is the pinnacle of showtime.
Speaker 2: With Magic at the height of his powers, Kareem is
Speaker 2: still a force in his second to last year, and
Speaker 2: it is a roster full of stars. So if you're
Speaker 2: not on Google looking it up, because I had to
Speaker 2: do the same. James Worthy's on this team Hall of
Speaker 2: Famer average twenty points per game on fifty three percent shooting.
Speaker 2: Byron's Scott is on this team average twenty two points
Speaker 2: per game that year. Michael Cooper Michael Cooper coming off
Speaker 2: the bench, defensive player of the Year of the year
Speaker 2: before Michael Thompson, we already talked about him.
Speaker 1: Kurt Rambis.
Speaker 2: We know Kurt Rambis, friend of the show, Kurt and
Speaker 2: Linda Hardeno's player who ended up winning four titles with
Speaker 2: the Lakers and Ac Green from Portland, Oregon, confirmed Player
Speaker 2: All Star who won titles with Magic and Kareem and and.
Speaker 1: Kobe and Shack.
Speaker 2: The team ran the fast break better than anyone in history. Still, though,
Speaker 2: could also run the half court offense better than almost
Speaker 2: anyone else's well through Kareem and Thompson.
Speaker 1: Teammate look not on paper.
Speaker 2: As fast as other teams in history, but listen when
Speaker 2: they got out into transition and they wanted to run,
Speaker 2: it looked like they were all looking to pr for
Speaker 2: their forty meter dash. They were sprinting. They were impossible
Speaker 2: to keep up with. Getting the ball in the block
Speaker 2: to Kareem, of course, allowed them to slow things down,
Speaker 2: which changes the average of their pace of play. Here's
Speaker 2: what Jerry said about this team, but also in the
Speaker 2: meantime explained why the three point has become a solve
Speaker 2: for less talented teams than teams like this.
Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff.
Speaker 2: Tyl Lou, for those who don't know, came back and
Speaker 2: beat the Mavericks after they look cooked, and then beat
Speaker 2: the met and then beat the Jazz after being down
Speaker 2: twenty five points in the third quarter of Game six.
Speaker 1: Many people know Tylou for.
Speaker 2: Being Lebron James's coach coming back from three to one
Speaker 2: with the Cleveland Cavaliers. Other historians know Tylu for being
Speaker 2: on the floor when Ai stepped over him. Jerry West,
Speaker 2: the Laker executive, drafted Tylo, so there's a long standing
Speaker 2: relationship here.
Speaker 1: The thing that.
Speaker 2: Strikes me about this is this piece is that the
Speaker 2: there's an admission that the Clippers should have been dogshit
Speaker 2: last year. He is shocked that they won as many
Speaker 2: games as they did. He is shocked that they even
Speaker 2: sniffed the playoffs considering how many injuries this team had.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. Kawhi was gone for the year
Speaker 2: and Paul George. If you had to ask yourself, how
Speaker 2: many games do I think Paul George played last year?
Speaker 5: How many?
Speaker 2: Was it.
Speaker 1: Thirty one games?
Speaker 2: At eighty two? He is legit shocked at the Lakers
Speaker 2: that the Clippers scrapped and scraped to get forty two wins,
Speaker 2: just five games less than they had last year with
Speaker 2: both superstar players. So listen to where Jerry rinks ty
Speaker 2: Lou in the coaching hierarchy of today's NBA and why
Speaker 2: Tylu was one of the ones who ran a player
Speaker 2: off the floor.
Speaker 3: We saw it in the Utah series, but they were down.
Speaker 5: I want to say three to one.
Speaker 2: That series against the Mass and that series against Utah
Speaker 2: was the series where I really said to myself, Okay,
Speaker 2: I was incredibly wrong about Tyle Lou because the brand
Speaker 2: or the.
Speaker 3: Reputation was Okay, he had.
Speaker 2: Lebron, Lebron and Kyrie, but his coaching against the Mass
Speaker 2: and his coaching against the Jazz was really impressive.
Speaker 6: Well, he's simply one of the best coaching moves people
Speaker 6: don't know yet and playing for.
Speaker 7: Him just like okay, he's not afraid. He believes and
Speaker 7: Lais believes him. And I want to say when people
Speaker 7: talking about coaches.
Speaker 8: Who THEFA would like three in the league this coaching
Speaker 8: the more importantly he the fantastic guys, which is so
Speaker 8: easy to be around. When more importantly he's so smart
Speaker 8: and he has a great, great way about him employer
Speaker 8: as you know, he's not that old and I drafted
Speaker 8: him that I in Los Angeles and he's.
Speaker 7: Just the bullbop that he's trying. But I feel fortunately he's.
Speaker 9: All the fun.
Speaker 7: We'd have a end region.
Speaker 6: Such of your two the best players you know here,
Speaker 6: it's amazing that we won with the mini games.
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite Tylo story that sort of
Speaker 2: highlights and personifies him?
Speaker 7: I do, but I can't talk about I have a
Speaker 7: lot of them ventified.
Speaker 10: You know, a lot of someone for some reason, he's
Speaker 10: got a different personality.
Speaker 6: And he can be really funny.
Speaker 7: He also be very part and there's a lot of
Speaker 7: things that you know, you talk about always not the
Speaker 7: best slang leasions of player, but he's he's easy to
Speaker 7: be around. He really expect I don't have.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: In the middle of describing what makes Tyl so special,
Speaker 2: he also takes time to fire shots at the play
Speaker 2: in tournament, the play in.
Speaker 7: Which I don't like at all.
Speaker 6: I think it's an in horrible mistur because you know,
Speaker 6: you can take one game and.
Speaker 7: The side of season you wor it of work. I
Speaker 7: just don't like it.
Speaker 8: And I'm sure if you missed it probably doesn't want
Speaker 8: to give them the senate that.
Speaker 7: I just think it's worthless to me.
Speaker 6: And the danger and the danger is that these teams
Speaker 6: are flowed over year and the label year.
Speaker 7: If you get a couple of injuries or you can't,
Speaker 7: they can't play for a couple of.
Speaker 6: The gamer one game you decide you see it that's
Speaker 6: gonna be and I just don't.
Speaker 7: I don't like it. I just think I don't know
Speaker 7: what the concept.
Speaker 1: Is legit hilarious.
Speaker 2: The funniest thing about this clip is how Jerry answers
Speaker 2: the question about how far the Clippers could have gone
Speaker 2: last year in the playoffs, considering, I think it's pretty
Speaker 2: wide open, the fact that the MAVs got the fact
Speaker 2: that the Suns were exposed, the fact that the Warriors
Speaker 2: broke through, the Bucks got injured. Seemed like the Clippers
Speaker 2: had a real shot if they were healthy, right. He
Speaker 2: humbly talks about really how it doesn't matter because we
Speaker 2: can never go backwards. But then he also says something fascinating.
Speaker 2: He says, you know, teams are gonna defenses are gonna
Speaker 2: wait on you. But when you have really elite players,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter whether they wait on you or not.
Speaker 1: Nothing you can do to stop them.
Speaker 2: I E.
Speaker 1: Kawhi, I E.
Speaker 2: Paul George, kind of a subtle like, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: we could have gone deep. He also addresses whether Kawhi
Speaker 2: could have come back in the playoffs if they would
Speaker 2: have made the playoffs, and Paul George didn't get COVID
Speaker 2: and they didn't lose to the Pelicans. And finally, whether
Speaker 2: Kawhi is any different than the outside world views him,
Speaker 2: considering that they have a very good relationship, really insightful,
Speaker 2: really interesting stuff. If Paul George doesn't get COVID or
Speaker 2: go into health and safety protocols against the Pelicans, how
Speaker 2: far do the Clippers go?
Speaker 3: Do you think last year, given how wide opening was.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm not sure if it's wide open.
Speaker 8: This was a really good team, but I will say
Speaker 8: this through a thick and pan last year they found
Speaker 8: the way.
Speaker 7: Then it's as hard in the playoffs and there's more
Speaker 7: cloches from the pages. They have a chance to see and.
Speaker 8: Play, and half the time is there're just defenders are
Speaker 8: waiting on it. And if you have those truly great players,
Speaker 8: it doesn't make any difference. They still be waiting on
Speaker 8: me and they were being player and so and that's
Speaker 8: why I've hurt Nuncle Hamton's best player players.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, it's only a guess I'll find
Speaker 7: out of you. Look at that. To me, it's a
Speaker 7: hand of yut thread which they didn't work out that.
Speaker 2: Was there a scenario if there was a long playoff
Speaker 2: run that Kawhi could have come back in the playoffs.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure he could. I'm sure sure he could.
Speaker 8: And to hit him obviously get him back is like
Speaker 8: a god said, and uh, he wasn't and we didn't
Speaker 8: get there, so we'll never know.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that people misunderstand you. Do you think that
Speaker 2: people misunderstand Kawai as well?
Speaker 5: Do you think he's different than the outside world sees him. No,
Speaker 5: he's the same.
Speaker 8: I love for what he's he's a basketball player, okay,
Speaker 8: and just watching him work out and see how serious
Speaker 8: he is.
Speaker 5: So he's not as playful as as you.
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm much more placy. Yeah, but I'm much crazier him.
Speaker 7: He has a much greater focus working out on his own.
Speaker 6: But you know he's if you're around him when he
Speaker 6: first came there, and obviously.
Speaker 8: You know I wasn't running the team, but I go
Speaker 8: to crackers of him an all time. You know, you're
Speaker 8: just trying to rewatch and you watch and watch and
Speaker 8: you probbabs, you can appreciate, You watch the greatness that
Speaker 8: he has as a player, but you you wanted sometimes
Speaker 8: you know why doesn't he happening.
Speaker 7: Well, he's been there. I have had the pleasure of
Speaker 7: getting to know him a little bit better, and.
Speaker 6: It's impossible not to be in fatiated. And he's got
Speaker 6: a wide censored human or he's a probe he really did.
Speaker 2: The thing about this clip that was so interesting, not
Speaker 2: only in the fact that the Clippers weakness was passing
Speaker 2: last year and that was the admission, is that when
Speaker 2: describing John Wall, Jerry says that John Wall is a
Speaker 2: great guy, but his reputation around those who cover the
Speaker 2: league is not that he has been known to be
Speaker 2: someone that pundits take shots at for being too self
Speaker 2: focused or who knows. So I wanted to get at
Speaker 2: why John Wall was such a polarizing figure. And another
Speaker 2: thing that came out of this process though, was a
Speaker 2: little nugget and what the Clippers vetting process us was
Speaker 2: like in acquiring a player like John and how he
Speaker 2: also thinks the Clippers are the deepest team in the
Speaker 2: league and he wouldn't trade it for anybody else. John
Speaker 2: Wall one of the biggest I would say pickups, one
Speaker 2: of the most interesting pickups that took forever in the
Speaker 2: day to actually come to fruition a lot of people
Speaker 2: I think thought that deal would get.
Speaker 3: Done or that move would get made last year.
Speaker 5: What does he bring to the team.
Speaker 7: Well, he fan's another guy that looked like to play basketball.
Speaker 7: He can get in the lane you find our three
Speaker 7: point shooters. It's probably weakness in our team last year.
Speaker 8: Passing he would give us in upgrade and being able
Speaker 8: to attack with the basket.
Speaker 7: And he's a good guy.
Speaker 8: Okay, he loves to play and we're just hoping that
Speaker 8: he can stay healthy. Watching him work out, he looked fantastic,
Speaker 8: great ja he's bringing.
Speaker 9: He's been working out out the year.
Speaker 6: That would be a pretty good vacation to make that
Speaker 6: kind of money and not get a chance to play.
Speaker 7: I would have liked it much. It would have been
Speaker 7: probably of four thousand.
Speaker 5: You mentioned.
Speaker 2: Great guy. And he's a polarizing figure too. There's been
Speaker 2: people who have said things about him and I don't
Speaker 2: know that they necessarily know him. Well, why do you
Speaker 2: think there's this, like, I don't know, disparity in terms
Speaker 2: of the opinion on him as a as a guy.
Speaker 7: You know what, I don't see it any people the
Speaker 7: same thing and what you got and may have.
Speaker 9: Been clear the rumor from.
Speaker 8: An unknown silist bes we see all the find I
Speaker 8: always they would identify the Solmsons times it just has not.
Speaker 7: That's not who he is. Is that who we've seen
Speaker 7: about that players really like him. A lot of our
Speaker 7: players know him. And so a player comes somewhere, Uh
Speaker 7: have you re checked the players? I mean protect the
Speaker 7: ones to know him.
Speaker 11: And while we've heard of the good things and all,
Speaker 11: I can go and say, just what your I see
Speaker 11: that that moment is how you know know about that?
Speaker 7: And who's just again, you're really good for us right now?
Speaker 7: So it's not just starting to see them.
Speaker 8: We will starts because this is a powerful team, the Clippers,
Speaker 8: that thouleful team in the note all.
Speaker 7: Right from one to ten team.
Speaker 6: I did not say just it's the team for any
Speaker 6: team on the That doesn't mean we're the best team.
Speaker 7: But I would not play for any.
Speaker 5: Game or let you think they're the deepest team.
Speaker 7: That's why I say three third finger. Yeah, yes, I see.
Speaker 2: So this question was out of left field, no segue,
Speaker 2: There was no connection to him or the Clippers or anything.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to know, how do you build a
Speaker 2: roster around Lebron James If it's you, Jerry West, and
Speaker 2: all you have is Lebron?
Speaker 1: What do you do? How do you best set them
Speaker 1: up for success?
Speaker 2: How do you build around him in a way that
Speaker 2: makes your team more likely to win a championship but
Speaker 2: also accentuates.
Speaker 1: What makes Lebron so great? Pretty simple, awesome stuff from Jerry.
Speaker 2: I'm curious about Lebron and him as a style of player.
Speaker 2: Obviously dominant, that's been said, But if you have Lebron
Speaker 2: on your team and no one else, what do you
Speaker 2: think is the best way to build a roster around
Speaker 2: someone like him or him specifically.
Speaker 8: Again, yeah, if you look at him, I think it
Speaker 8: makes him to you the more he's already missed his game,
Speaker 8: called that he's one of the smartest players have never
Speaker 8: player in the game. I think he's better with an
Speaker 8: open court. I would try to have a team that shooting,
Speaker 8: I could run. People can run, and that's names that
Speaker 8: you play that's taken.
Speaker 9: Attacking round and he's going to pick out people to run.
Speaker 7: That's beams really dominant.
Speaker 8: And sometimes when you get involved down in a half
Speaker 8: fullt if you have another player playing with him and
Speaker 8: you know, let's say you're because he's so worthily moved
Speaker 8: on other players.
Speaker 7: You're playing up front when you win. I think that's
Speaker 7: hurts you a little bit.
Speaker 5: You think it would be better in the block.
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, right, no, penates fates and say because
Speaker 6: the size and the fastest ability, he's one of the
Speaker 6: three greatest players in the player.
Speaker 8: He's gonna have taunting figure, he's gonna break every record
Speaker 8: in this layer and he's someone that greatly amount of
Speaker 8: person like I do. Uh, it's hard to do what
Speaker 8: he's done. But he cares about the building, cares about women,
Speaker 8: who's rhythmed to take care of himself. When you ever
Speaker 8: hear anything bad about him, Yeah, he is a content.
Speaker 2: But it's guys not necessarily point guards because he plays that,
Speaker 2: but combo guards that can shoot the three and also
Speaker 2: handle and pass and kind of kind of. That's that long,
Speaker 2: versatile defender that you guys like that.
Speaker 5: The Toronto likes somebody challenge.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a challenge because the problem is with the
Speaker 7: team on him. They're usually drafting very low. Yes, they
Speaker 7: don't get in any areas they can find on those players.
Speaker 7: They doesn't have to be in the top ken. They
Speaker 7: should do more later than half. Really second rate and
Speaker 7: might find a player like that and hopefully that will happen.
Speaker 7: That's a.
Speaker 9: Little thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Rosters with him on it look different than other rosters
Speaker 2: that people construct, just because of all the unique things
Speaker 2: that he can do.
Speaker 7: Well, you put you know, you put him with players
Speaker 7: that are where he didn't every night just have it.
Speaker 7: Doesn't have it a scoring roll. He know a lot
Speaker 7: better than well. And people don't realize how wearing and
Speaker 7: how dependent the people have come home and go.
Speaker 6: They just take him some granted, and so he does
Speaker 6: it every night and he's you need but some might
Speaker 6: some heights with roses. How hard you trying to screw it?
Speaker 6: Some nights you just can't. You can't make the shots
Speaker 6: if you normally make. And he's only been to score
Speaker 6: because he's gonna blaw files and get him the three film.
Speaker 6: But he's a player that.
Speaker 7: Really greatly am that you've been brilliant for so long and.
Speaker 8: Guy Christou says he's had he's had to say he's
Speaker 8: gonna drink all the records.
Speaker 7: He's been there for a number of year. Gene. That's
Speaker 7: the amazing tribute, if not only to his play, but doing.
Speaker 1: So a little behind the scenes here.
Speaker 2: So before I ask this question, and I'm a little
Speaker 2: hesitant in asking it, so I'm a little long winded
Speaker 2: in getting there.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to get him to address Winning Time.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out way to do that.
Speaker 2: And I've had lunch with Jerry a few times, and
Speaker 2: I've been out with them socially as well, and I've
Speaker 2: never seen him drink, not one time, not once. So
Speaker 2: to me, it was really fascinated that Winning Time made
Speaker 2: him look like an alcoholic, just made him look like
Speaker 2: a guy who throws his trophy through his office window
Speaker 2: and that he's at the bar getting fucked up meeting
Speaker 2: his future wife. Crazy shit, I was because I saw
Speaker 2: a Winning Time after we met extremely sus at this depiction.
Speaker 2: So I asked him about alcohol use, thinking that might
Speaker 2: lead us into the Winning Time discussion. But we actually
Speaker 2: ended up on this really interesting side road somehow about
Speaker 2: the blueprint on giving constructive criticism, how you balance being
Speaker 2: brutally honest and being a relationship guy, because I think
Speaker 2: that's insanely hard to balance. And then somehow we got
Speaker 2: on the role of social media and debate show talking
Speaker 2: heads in today's NBA then he throws subtle shade at
Speaker 2: the Lakers, at stephen A, at JJ Reddick.
Speaker 1: What a turn. Did not expect this.
Speaker 2: By the way, gotta remember we're about an hour and
Speaker 2: a half into this interview and he is cooking. One
Speaker 2: of the craziest things that I saw and that I've
Speaker 2: known about you for a long time is that you
Speaker 2: don't drink. And I'm pretty sure correct me if I'm
Speaker 2: wrong that you've never had well.
Speaker 7: You know, as I say, I don't say, I don't
Speaker 7: mean it, okay, but there have never any alcohol in
Speaker 7: the family.
Speaker 9: Might if I drink after me my night have a
Speaker 9: block in time.
Speaker 7: But I'm not gonnath at all. Like I don't like
Speaker 7: that it does to any if I'm not, I just.
Speaker 9: Don't like it.
Speaker 7: Ring I was around their family and my father smo heavily.
Speaker 7: There's no way that I.
Speaker 8: Can smoke anything and listen, I'm not appropriate others I'm
Speaker 8: going to get pro fascinated because there's things I've just
Speaker 8: woke the doer.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not going to I'm not gonna. Yeah, some
Speaker 7: people don't, I'm really honest, and some people don't. MENTIONINGEDI
Speaker 7: with that, that's.
Speaker 5: An interesting question.
Speaker 2: So, how do you balance that being brutally honest in
Speaker 2: a talent evaluation role when people are kind of like
Speaker 2: there's another industry out there to try to.
Speaker 5: Make things out to be bigger than they are.
Speaker 7: What do you do?
Speaker 5: You just don't care.
Speaker 8: Social media and particularly these people can get on us
Speaker 8: the hair and criticize players and next day they'll come
Speaker 8: back and.
Speaker 7: Kiss and make up. I don't like them, but they
Speaker 7: do it for the people. Will they're free ad contubable.
Speaker 7: Some of these players are not concidency doing you all
Speaker 7: who deal?
Speaker 8: And you know I've watched this year sent things written
Speaker 8: about the field god players.
Speaker 7: And the owner. They are why you're not going to
Speaker 7: change you right? This is who they are. And I
Speaker 7: think it's got to be embarrassing going away.
Speaker 3: What is it hard for you knowing that you're brutally honest?
Speaker 2: Does that impact and you're also a relationship oriented person?
Speaker 5: How do you balance those two things?
Speaker 12: Well, you know somebody will come up. We'll say to you,
Speaker 12: you know I want to know this, okay, And I said, look,
Speaker 12: this is only my opinion. You and me tell you
Speaker 12: what you want to hear, or.
Speaker 13: If you want to tell you what I think and
Speaker 13: sometimes I want to tell you what I think about
Speaker 13: what I t I said, it's not a reflect when
Speaker 13: you re reflection on how you can get better, not
Speaker 13: only as a player, but as a person, how.
Speaker 9: You can interact with people that how people will.
Speaker 7: Be a more accepting of you.
Speaker 8: I said, the most astarming thinking will I think it's
Speaker 8: a smile and yeah, I just I'm pretty simple.
Speaker 7: I'm very pretty simple.
Speaker 10: And I don't think it's kind of a life in
Speaker 10: this league today. It's almost forgotten to company. It's the
Speaker 10: excessive amount of publishing, the excessive now content.
Speaker 8: About the players that are in our league, and I'm
Speaker 8: not always looking something to do longer thy.
Speaker 7: W D stand it's ridiculous.
Speaker 8: And some of the people on the air and who
Speaker 8: i'll watch ex players, players who's accomplished basically nothing you
Speaker 8: talking about the game in their opinion.
Speaker 7: When I play, I've been talking about how I play.
Speaker 7: It was a completely different area the day of saying well,
Speaker 7: I thought, I've got to be my meaning.
Speaker 6: Though I'm older, reading reading things that are meanings, of
Speaker 6: reading about history, reading about people who have inspired I say,
Speaker 6: even though I'm battle the person that's terrible, I do
Speaker 6: care about people are and some people and NBA players,
Speaker 6: the players and others wore.
Speaker 7: I want to feel like if.
Speaker 8: Everyone crazy when they're with their franchise and the next
Speaker 8: second they trade him, and.
Speaker 7: Well, you know you're just a numbers. We want to
Speaker 7: see you.
Speaker 6: As I mentioned, players have places where they want to
Speaker 6: go with today, and you know they want anyone seemingly
Speaker 6: wants to go to a big market.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go to the place where I can win.
Speaker 8: I suppose you're good enough. If you're good inough, they
Speaker 8: can help a lot more money if your own team
Speaker 8: than you came if you have a tall Also, some
Speaker 8: places where you go.
Speaker 7: And everything looks great, you get there and you'll find
Speaker 7: out there's not good.
Speaker 5: Why does it work? Just get around?
Speaker 7: Oh well there's a couple of a lot of different
Speaker 7: Well we don't go. If you heard that, just out
Speaker 7: just looked the other good when those people.
Speaker 9: Are I don't go.
Speaker 7: Over the years, I've learned why.
Speaker 10: I think crush if I'll use that to discussed plus
Speaker 10: crush just sell anything.
Speaker 7: And there's been some trust in my life have been betrayed,
Speaker 7: and I don't do you know where I have it
Speaker 7: like it.
Speaker 1: I'm just frankly that bother here it is, folks here,
Speaker 1: it is. What did Jerry West think about winning Time?
Speaker 3: When I saw that HBO series, I wondered, did they
Speaker 3: get anything right?
Speaker 5: It's not like they got pretty much everything.
Speaker 4: But I really don't I really don't want to find them.
Speaker 4: Uh there's a complete line. It's a complete line they
Speaker 4: have if forgetting me. Okay, yeah, we're getting me. I
Speaker 4: don't care what any other says.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to right exactly now.
Speaker 7: I don't know those people. I don't want to know
Speaker 7: the dir any money. Yeah, but that was disgraced for
Speaker 7: a lot of people.
Speaker 6: And uh then for some reason, I would details any
Speaker 6: case that means a feeling good story.
Speaker 8: That was the start of an era in Los Angeles,
Speaker 8: and Gary Blessed the others made the Lakers for years
Speaker 8: the most popular being intent and to.
Speaker 7: Me to find the story that about detroying the people
Speaker 7: who were involved in it. It's very of time. That's
Speaker 7: this place.
Speaker 3: I love the concept of an owner to say, let's
Speaker 3: just do whatever it takes to win.
Speaker 5: When I look and.
Speaker 2: Read about that time, that's the thing that sticks out
Speaker 2: is just how rare and special and hard it is
Speaker 2: for owners.
Speaker 7: To do that different.
Speaker 8: The team today we have immensely don't be in this
Speaker 8: of course, because they won an young profession. They don't
Speaker 8: understand how hard the time.
Speaker 7: They don't. They think it's easy. The more money is sad,
Speaker 7: it's not gonna do it. Sometimes people spend a lot
Speaker 7: of money and they're hopefully losing. They're not going to
Speaker 7: get better.
Speaker 8: And once it gets kind of stuck in the middle,
Speaker 8: if you don't find a way to get out of there,
Speaker 8: you're gonna be a younger.
Speaker 7: Okay, he retire that because every you'll lead is looking
Speaker 7: every team in the way.
Speaker 8: Look what happens when they leave a great player from
Speaker 8: some franchise that just began to give a numbers and
Speaker 8: frustrating for the fans.
Speaker 6: Uh every neumerous social fos in the draft can be
Speaker 6: but it's uh pleasing, and I wouldn't then we don't
Speaker 6: answer to him.
Speaker 7: They don't know. I do believe in ownership of lot.
Speaker 7: We've been to you, We've been involved with floor owners
Speaker 7: and I in the n H on this side kind of.
Speaker 7: Wilber's really been a fan of the house. And I
Speaker 7: think the lucky stars you can leave them in the
Speaker 7: help you have anything wrong with today? Who is the
Speaker 7: most amazing man I've ever seen, an abod who was
Speaker 7: just when the league individual who was a giver the work,
Speaker 7: and he and his wife do some of the public
Speaker 7: clock ex cantime. There's a name when he is a
Speaker 7: great man.
Speaker 14: He is a great man at so at this point
Speaker 14: in my life and this is life, you know, this
Speaker 14: is kind of my entire lower at the end of
Speaker 14: the day.
Speaker 7: And I've had a chance to get to Turner like playing.
Speaker 8: During US, like during US long figurating US and the oldys.
Speaker 7: Never like a man who keeping above.
Speaker 14: Time and get at a little quieter for sure. And
Speaker 14: Steve is a little bit more lambastic, but fantastic and
Speaker 14: I feel a freaking me.
Speaker 2: My favorite thing that he did was He's like, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to comment on that, and then he just
Speaker 2: proceeded to comment and comment and comment some more.
Speaker 1: He was very honest, very open to the core. You
Speaker 1: could tell he's not happy about it. We'll just say that.
Speaker 1: So to close up this interview, I wanted to ask.
Speaker 2: Jerry about what I heard whispers of, which is that
Speaker 2: there's a standing room only section that's going to be
Speaker 2: put in the new Clippers arena to create an atmosphere
Speaker 2: very cheap tickets, an atmosphere of the student section in
Speaker 2: college basketball, to create a real home court advantage, and
Speaker 2: to make it volatile for opposing teams. Heard about it,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is awesome, So I asked him about it.
Speaker 2: He talks about that, of course, but casually drops that
Speaker 2: he does not care about championship rings so much so
Speaker 2: he doesn't even know where any of his are. He
Speaker 2: also then reveals why he doesn't like court side seats,
Speaker 2: and lastly, most importantly, he says some real nice things
Speaker 2: about me and his parting thoughts on the record, No doubt,
Speaker 2: Let's make a montage something that I can keep handy
Speaker 2: on my cell phone when I end up sad and
Speaker 2: down a rabbit hole of Twitter trolls.
Speaker 1: He tell me, I don't know anything about basketball. I
Speaker 1: should be fine.
Speaker 2: Lastly, you told me about something that's happening to the
Speaker 2: new arena, a really cool feature that is going to
Speaker 2: add to the fan experience.
Speaker 5: Tell me about that if you can.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 7: Steven, yeah, he's you know, he he doesn't do things,
Speaker 7: but just to great monkey. Yeah he doesn't. He wants
Speaker 7: the fanings here, and there's gonna be a hold of
Speaker 7: each you a lot of blue. See it's gonna hold
Speaker 7: be a whole section of it. Sets. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 7: good seed any mo.
Speaker 6: And I promise you let me if they're with And
Speaker 6: again the prices ipe what they were going to row
Speaker 6: age and I said, oh my.
Speaker 7: God, I said this is this would be fun and
Speaker 7: college like rappers, so they'll.
Speaker 5: Be reasonable reasonable crisis the.
Speaker 6: Low reasonship a low reason and in some of these
Speaker 6: places he's going out and floor suits in particular, and
Speaker 6: how razy.
Speaker 7: That's what people will do to have the received. And
Speaker 7: after I can said demand, people are going to be.
Speaker 6: Seen and they want to put you down there and
Speaker 6: hopefully someone will run over them and I'll hurt them
Speaker 6: and they'll have a picture of it.
Speaker 7: For there's that book. I don't even like to fir Sea.
Speaker 7: You can't see the game, but people who like to
Speaker 7: be close.
Speaker 6: To the action, they like to hear a little law
Speaker 6: language of times and the facial expression.
Speaker 7: Of it that man, I just say, it's selling. Disagree there.
Speaker 7: It will be amazing and it's gonna be a nasty
Speaker 7: plays for people.
Speaker 8: Walt Aner, this are really close to the four I
Speaker 8: remember when stateful first over them, I said, oh my god,
Speaker 8: want people, it's so far in the action.
Speaker 6: Then at four of the one time may the best
Speaker 6: place to watch the basketball game? We so close and four,
Speaker 6: But it really didn't work financier because the even.
Speaker 8: More revenue maintaining players, and also it enhances the value
Speaker 8: of the franchise.
Speaker 6: And as I say, this is a different NBA than
Speaker 6: you've seen them the floor. It'll be different five years
Speaker 6: from now, but it's still and it's very simple.
Speaker 7: The game very safety, and that's that's gone to the charge.
Speaker 3: And if you don't stand the whole time, you get
Speaker 3: kicked out right.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I'm not sure what the policy is,
Speaker 7: but I'm sure that's what we steve. We'll be up
Speaker 7: there with me half the time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that'll be fun. I appreciate you. I hope
Speaker 3: you get another ring.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure.
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 7: You really don't mean a lot to me. I'll have
Speaker 7: a few.
Speaker 9: I don't even know where they are.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that you don't even know where the
Speaker 2: rings are, Like you don't know, it's not in the
Speaker 2: safe somewhere.
Speaker 5: They're just gone, like in a random drawer.
Speaker 8: So I mean somewhere okay, and you know they're they're fun,
Speaker 8: you're hard to get and hopefully every.
Speaker 6: Team employer or what if binyam on that's that's a great.
Speaker 5: Truths Cherry West.
Speaker 2: You have been gracious and fun and insightful, and I
Speaker 2: have taken up way too much of your time.
Speaker 7: Of course, I always great to see you. You know,
Speaker 7: you have a unique personality and it's fun to be around.
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