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Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. Wakey, Wakey, Eggs

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Speaker 1: and baky you degenerates. It's four twenty and it is

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Speaker 1: time for Morning Combat. H Hi, everybody. My name is

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. I am one half of the hosting duo

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Speaker 1: He's the DJ premiere to my guru. Guru's dead. I

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Speaker 1: guess that's not a great comparison, but nevertheless, you get

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Speaker 1: the idea. It is the one and only Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 3: Bryan, it's BC. Want to hit you. That's what I do.

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Speaker 3: So what you want to do? Luke me? I want

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Speaker 3: to shoot. This is the best part of my week, Luke.

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Speaker 3: And in this hamster wheel of the ridiculousness of coronavirus, quarantine.

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Speaker 3: I'm back on the happy side this week, all right,

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Speaker 3: So let's start out with a little bit of a bang.

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Speaker 1: All right, you took it. You took a little along

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Speaker 3: this quarantine. Luke, you fourth wall removal. I talked to

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Speaker 3: Shout out to all the Florida men out there. I

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Speaker 3: here on team Dana White for yeah, man, f this.

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Speaker 3: You've been reckless and you're our Robinhood and you're our hero.

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Speaker 3: And he's doing that, spouse Luke notwithstanding, okay.

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Speaker 3: How many other people in other sports you know, did

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Speaker 3: even a guy that for the moment is on your radar,

431
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Speaker 3: and you know, it's pretty sensitive for a guy that

432
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Speaker 3: just fought off an attacker with his kids, wife and

433
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 3: mother in law in the house in the middle of

434
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Speaker 3: the night, that you sort of go there and I'm

435
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: not softening up and saying fighters can't trade trash talk.

436
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Speaker 3: Trash talk, I love it. The only time I got

437
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: soft on that was when I felt like Connor was

438
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 3: pushing so far with the uh the religious talk that

439
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 3: some people on Habib's team might actually take a real

440
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 3: shot at him, if you know what I mean, because

441
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: they were going past that level short of that. I'm

442
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Speaker 3: in on trash talk and I love it, but the

443
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Speaker 3: time is not now. And John, you're really exposing yourself

444
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Speaker 3: for just not understanding the gravity of this situation. And

445
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 3: maybe that's because no one has pushed you to a

446
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Speaker 3: rock bottom yet where you have to make the necessary changes.

447
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Speaker 3: But Luke, I'm surprised you were that polite, even though

448
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Speaker 3: you really said what I said, just in a sober tone.

449
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: Politen on what bone he says this man have to

450
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Speaker 3: stand on.

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Speaker 1: People say it's polite, but polite, but it's not. I'm

452
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Speaker 1: not trying to do John Favors exactly. I'm just trying

453
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: to say yelling at the dude while talking softly. Also,

454
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Speaker 1: I suppose I mean, I'm not in a position to

455
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Speaker 1: like counsel the guy. All I can really do is

456
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Speaker 1: observe from afar and just say, like, how the hell

457
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Speaker 1: is it possible a situation like this for the third

458
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Speaker 1: time where you have a vehicular issue. Let's put it mildly,

459
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Speaker 1: at least at least two of them, at least, you know, alleged,

460
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Speaker 1: because we'll have to see how the no he played guilty,

461
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Speaker 1: So it's not even a legend anymore. Sorry, And so

462
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Speaker 1: at least two of the three, and you could argue

463
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Speaker 1: all three involved some kind of substance abuse issues. It's like, dude,

464
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Speaker 1: if that has happened in your life across now the

465
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Speaker 1: second decade of your adulthood, right the twenties and nine

466
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Speaker 1: your thirties, and the first order of business is, aside

467
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Speaker 1: from the statement to then go after a arrival as

468
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Speaker 1: you indicated, who went through a traumatic situation like I'd

469
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Speaker 1: be happy to have Anthony Smith in my house or

470
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Speaker 1: something like that happened. I'd mean, Anthony, take it away,

471
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Speaker 1: my guy, you got it. I wouldn't worry. I'd sleep

472
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Speaker 1: very souldly knowing Anthony Smith was in my house protecting

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Speaker 1: himself and my family if that ever came to it,

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Speaker 1: some kind of situation. So it's like, that's your first

475
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Speaker 1: order of business. Meanwhile, this had happened like dude that

476
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Speaker 1: was a friend of mine absent antagonizing anyone else in

477
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Speaker 1: the workplace, I'd be profoundly concerned about them. You add

478
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: on this in the quick short order, and it's like,

479
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I get that you don't want to stop

480
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: living your life. No one is saying you couldn't stay

481
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Speaker 1: in shape or you know, talk to people, or you know,

482
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Speaker 1: keep keep that sharp competitive edge. Okay, fine, But an

483
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Speaker 1: antagonistic edge over a human trauma after you already experienced

484
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Speaker 1: your own personal trauma. It just does It's bizarre. It

485
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Speaker 1: just doesn't add up. But I don't really, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I can. I can sit here and condemn him all

487
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Speaker 1: day and and do the old Skip Bayless thing and

488
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Speaker 1: tell him he's this, and tell him he's that. Look, yeah,

489
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Speaker 1: I could be film us. I can just be straight

490
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Speaker 1: up racist, you know, I could do all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that that really is my position.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Really it solves the problem. All I

493
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Speaker 1: am here to say is I am alarmed at the

494
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Speaker 1: incongruity of it all, given what just happened to him.

495
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Speaker 1: And by the way, I'll pitch you back to you

496
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Speaker 1: on this. BC Unik is not on his on his

497
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Speaker 1: rivalry list. He was going back and forth with Yon

498
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: because Joan wanted to fist him, and he was going

499
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Speaker 1: back with Dominic. I have less of an issue with

500
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Speaker 1: that because they were just talking about it competitively. It's

501
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: the weirdest of the Anthony Smith thing about a human

502
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Speaker 1: trauma that I just found beyond the pale.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just bad taste. And like I said, there's

504
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 3: no leg or bone to stand on before we close

505
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Speaker 3: on you in my ear? Jay, is that you?

506
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

507
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Jay all right, Jay Award winning documentary. And

508
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: Jay has got a lot of bad things to say

509
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: about the Bulls Last Dance. We'll get that later. Luke,

510
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: do you have any comment on did you watch the

511
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Speaker 3: extended John Jones police cam video from the police's point

512
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Speaker 3: of view where John's phone rang in the middle of

513
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 3: it and it looked like a booty call. I know

514
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Speaker 3: this isn't your area. I just wanted to give you

515
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Speaker 3: the floor.

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Speaker 1: I did not.

517
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Speaker 3: Way to bring the mood down. Campbell. Yeah, we were

518
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: all thinking it though. Look, and that's sort of my

519
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: role to put that out there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, real quickly, just last thing on this, I'll pitch

521
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Speaker 1: it back to you. Do you like that he is

522
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: turning his attention to Blohovich versus Reyes. Given given that

523
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Speaker 1: Reyes said UFC talked to him and said they want

524
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Speaker 1: to run it.

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Speaker 3: Back, I'm not against it. From the standpoint is like

526
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Speaker 3: the knee jerk is we just talked about John Jones,

527
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Speaker 3: and now you can pile on and be like and

528
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Speaker 3: he's not even going after dom Reyes. He's going after Blohoic,

529
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Speaker 3: which in theory looks to be certainly an easier fight,

530
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Speaker 3: although obviously shout out to Blohovich's knockout ability. Here's the deal, though,

531
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Speaker 3: dom Reys, I thought he won that fight, But I

532
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Speaker 3: don't think that decision was overly egregious. I don't think

533
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Speaker 3: it was a robbery. I don't think it was the

534
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Speaker 3: kind where you're like, ah, man, he got screwed. You

535
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Speaker 3: gotta run this back, similar to maybe to Leoto Machida

536
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Speaker 3: Showgun Part one, right, in this case, dom Reis is

537
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Speaker 3: a rising potential star, but he doesn't have a lot

538
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Speaker 3: in the bank from demanding this. There's a lot of

539
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Speaker 3: precedents where you have a close decision where the contender,

540
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Speaker 3: the younger guy under established all automatically gets the next

541
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Speaker 3: title shot. No, he kind of has to go through

542
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: one more fight and then you can build to it.

543
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Speaker 3: I think Blohowich is at a point where he's won

544
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Speaker 3: too many in a row. It's time he gets his shot.

545
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Speaker 3: And what this ultimately does, Luke, is it keeps John

546
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Speaker 3: Jones at light heavyweight longer. Whether that's for good or bad,

547
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: depending on your opinion on that. I've wanted John to

548
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: go up to heavyweight forever. I thought he's basically cleaned

549
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: out this division three times, you know, two and a

550
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: half times at the very least to this point. This

551
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 3: kind of gives him the room to hang around longer.

552
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Speaker 3: If he can beat Yon Blohowic, then you set up

553
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Speaker 3: to a Dom Reyis matchup that would probably mean more

554
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: marketing wise, you know, if you do it two fights

555
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: from now rather than next. I'm not really here to

556
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Speaker 3: say it's gotta be Dom next. Look, he fought a

557
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 3: great fight. Judges thought he lost. It is what it is,

558
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: all right.

559
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Speaker 1: It takes us to our third topic of the day here,

560
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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. This is this is one where you need

561
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Speaker 1: to have a little come to Jesus moment. My friend,

562
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Speaker 1: you had told me keep your eye on this, Devin Hainey, kid, Well,

563
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: we did, and he turned out to say some very vay,

564
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: very stupid things. I think it was on an Instagram

565
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: live if I do, if I if the memory serves

566
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Speaker 1: BC now it was.

567
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Speaker 3: On a YouTube show.

568
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Speaker 1: It was on a YouTube show. And by the way,

569
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Speaker 1: he's the WBC Lightweight Champions twenty one years old, so

570
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: to a degree you can sort of understand twenty one

571
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: doesn't know shit about the world. Fine whatever. Nevertheless, BC

572
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: says he would never lose to a white person, and

573
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Speaker 1: this was in reference to a question about potentially facing Lomachenko.

574
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Speaker 1: How much of a dumbass is Devin Haney?

575
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Speaker 3: All right, it's a stupid comment. It's you know, he

576
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: should have known historically not to do this. Why because

577
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: Bernard Hopkins famously did this ahead of the Kalzagi fight.

578
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Speaker 3: Hopkins Kalzagi, really fun fight, flip it decision at the

579
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: und split decision, Kaalzagi beat him. There's egg on Hopkins's face.

580
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Speaker 3: By the way, that was also like two thousand and eight.

581
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Speaker 3: We're at twenty twenty. It's even more unacceptable to say

582
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Speaker 3: something like this. Why because if you flipped it and

583
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: this was Tom Brady coming out and saying I'll never

584
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Speaker 3: lose to a black quarterback. You're like, okay, we got

585
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 3: some major problems. Yes, it smells like double standard racism.

586
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: But I don't know, Luke, I'm not all that like

587
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Speaker 3: mad about it. I don't know because it's in the

588
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 3: fight game. It's in boxing where stuff like this is allowed.

589
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 3: It's a stupid comment. It sets you up in a

590
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: bad way, but you know, I've been the the pudgy

591
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: white guy in a basketball court before, playing against people

592
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: of other races and sort of get that look like, oh,

593
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 3: this white boy ain't doing it to me, And it

594
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: kind of feels a little like that, even though again

595
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 3: it's twenty twenty and this is bullshit. It shouldn't be

596
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: the kind of stuff you say. This is boxing, though,

597
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: the stuff like this you get away with it. I think,

598
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: if anything, it just adds up the spice of a

599
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 3: potential matchup here where Devin Haney, who looks like he

600
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: has all the goods and if you don't know his backstory,

601
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: he was a super prospect. Floyd Mayweather tried hard to

602
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: get him to promote him. Every promoter had their opportunity.

603
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: He ended up choosing Eddie Hearn. He's on his own

604
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: side of the track, so to speak, with that stable.

605
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: But he got that champion chip under the WBC kind

606
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: of without earning it because they elevated Limachenko to that

607
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: franchise Super Champion BS. He looks great. We haven't seen

608
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: him in a real defining fight yet, but if this

609
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: is a slow build eventually toward that. Although obviously Tayo

610
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: Femo Lopez Junior is going to have his say against

611
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: Limachenko when we finally get back, it's part of the narrative.

612
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: To me, it's just kind of dumb. I'm not going

613
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: to crucify him. Luke, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean here's the thing. It's like, I'm not offended.

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Speaker 1: I'm not against it because I all, let me find

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Speaker 1: my pearls to clutch. I just find it stupid because

617
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Speaker 1: it's like obviously wrong. I mean, years ago, folks, forget this.

618
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Speaker 1: Before Chappelle's Show was around, Chris Rock got a big

619
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Speaker 1: show called The Chris Rock Show. It was on HBO,

620
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: and he did a whole bit where he went to

621
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Speaker 1: a bunch of gyms over in Brooklyn and he asked

622
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: all these boxers this very African American boxers, Latin wants

623
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: to could you ever lose to a white guy? And

624
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: they all said no, And then then they all said

625
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: Rocky Marciana would be the only exception to that, where

626
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, he was a really good boxer. Fast forward

627
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Speaker 1: how many years this twenty years later, and you just

628
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: look around at the sport and yes, dude, this is

629
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: a sport clearly, clearly the bedrock of the sport, both

630
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: of its participants, and it's fan based to an extent,

631
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Speaker 1: it's promoters as well. It's dominated by African Americans and Latinos.

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Speaker 1: That's just a reality and everyone should face it. At

633
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: the same time, this idea that it's like, you know,

634
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Speaker 1: no white's allowed because they can't compete, it's just beyond absurd.

635
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: And here's the thing I'm not gonna do. What I

636
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: saw was a bunch of people offended being like, oh no, no,

637
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: let me show you how dominant whites are. Well, all

638
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they're like, look at this Tyson fiery highlight.

639
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: And as you mentioned, Joe Kalazaki, who was the donk

640
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: that being regis prograde recently, I forget his name. To

641
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. Yeah, to all of a sudden,

642
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: you're like pulling out pages of mind. Comf. I'm not

643
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: doing that. I'm not doing it. I'm not getting into

644
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: the old stupid race war thing. I'm just going to say,

645
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: he's twenty one, he's full of swag, he comes from

646
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: a tough upbringing, as you indicate. I get it. I

647
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: don't hate it because it offends everyone's delicate sensibilities. I

648
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: just can't believe as somebody who is as clued into

649
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: the world of boxing as he is would say something

650
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: so matter of factly stupid. I mean, whether you want

651
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: to call them Slavic and different, white or whatever. Dude,

652
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: the Russians of the Ukrainians, they fucking dominate the sport

653
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: just as much. So here's what I'll say to Devin Haney.

654
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: Wake up, kid, you're better than this.

655
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: Wow wow, Look a look at this Boomer Thomas jumping

656
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: in here.

657
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, old man yells a cloud. Wow wow.

658
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: Jay not happy with that direction we took the show.

659
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: Wow Yeah. Jay wanted us to bury the whites on

660
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: that one.

661
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: All right, All right, Jay, take off your Klan hat

662
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: for a second there. Wow. All right.

663
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: Uh, by the way, here, you know what we's kind

664
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: of skipped a call here or our question here in

665
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: the rundown BC, I think we went ahead and got

666
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: to it. J. If I'm not mistaken, pull those graphics up.

667
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: We're about to pull the fourth wall back on this one. Here.

668
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: Let's see this one. I think we did it already. Yeah,

669
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: the pandemic call. I want to revisit this one.

670
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: BC.

671
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 1: We fucked this up.

672
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: No, that was the original rundown and then we moved

673
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: that Luke. Okay, this is a J problem, not a

674
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: not a Luken BC problem.

675
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: No, I think it's a Luke and BC problem. At

676
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: this point. We botched the rundown. Dude, And how many shows?

677
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: Is this?

678
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: What?

679
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: Jay? What episode it is? This one? What number thirty

680
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: nine took us thirty nine weeks? BC? As you read

681
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: your phone, No, because.

682
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: This was supposed to be Rowsey, So why don't we

683
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: hit that?

684
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: Luke?

685
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: Okay, this was supposed to be your girl, Ronda Rousey Okay.

686
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: Oh yes, so I'll pitch it to you here on

687
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: the same We don't have the graphic, but here here

688
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: goes Ronda Rausei said she understood the UFC's sponsorship policy

689
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: ads are related to Rebok because what she had said was, Hey,

690
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: look you don't see NBA players with condom depot ads,

691
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: to which I say, Brian Campbell, how can somebody, how

692
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: can someone with a straight face say that.

693
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: I didn't hear that last part. Luk, your mic dipped,

694
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: but I think you ripped Ronda Rousey head movement, head movement.

695
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: I don't. How could she offend so many people from

696
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: one podcast interview with Steve All because she's I mean,

697
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: wrestling fans got taken down pro wrestlers UFC. All right,

698
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: The basis of her comment suck because she's the one percent. Okay,

699
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: when that Rebock deal hit, it was favored and heavily,

700
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: you know, pointed towards the extra marketable fighters who were

701
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: able going to get more money. She's basically like, I

702
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: was fine with it. It was great, right, And it's

703
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: easy heer for her to say, you can't put dynamic

704
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: fasteners on the crotch of your football uniform, but you

705
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: can have a Nike shoe sponsorship in the NBA where

706
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: you get your own money wearing your own shoes from that,

707
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: and in UFC you're sort of being shut down. And

708
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: obviously it's hard to defend the UFC whenever you're bringing

709
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: up fighter compensation and fighter treatment on based on the

710
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: percentages there without a fighter's union of what they ultimately

711
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: get paid. So in that sense, she's just it's kind

712
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: of arrogantly wrong, which really sums up her entire existence.

713
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: I feel like Luke, every time she re emerges, we

714
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: could make a spot in this rundown to sort of go,

715
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: you're see what Rouse has said. Remember she was talking

716
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 3: about getting in that ass and like, no, I don't.

717
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: I'm done. I told you that last week. I'm done.

718
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, here's the thing. This is the one where

719
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: I guess it could be part of a wrestling angle.

720
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, but on its merits as everything you've

721
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: said totally correct. I agree. On top of that, it's like,

722
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: understand something. The UFC deal originally that they signed with

723
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: ESPN was for one point five billion for five Now

724
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: they augmented that to seven after the deal started to

725
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: go really well. We don't know how much additional compensation

726
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: was included in the overall grand scheme of the deal. Plus,

727
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: as we know, they get guaranteed money from pay per

728
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: view the whole nine yards. Imagine if the UFC kept

729
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: their rebok policy, but they split the the TV rev

730
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. Right, everything else as it was, no change,

731
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: just changed how you make money as it relates to

732
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: television because NBA players, I think get forty eight percent

733
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: or more of the money that they get from the

734
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: league for those television deals. If that was the case

735
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: and you had five hundred fighters on roster, they got

736
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: a little bit more than that. But just to make

737
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: the math simple, for it, five years, every single fighter

738
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: on the roster could get one hundred and twenty five

739
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, no questions asked, every time, right at Christmas. Right.

740
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: So the idea here is yes, for someone like Rousi,

741
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: who was in his elevated position where she's eating burgers

742
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: and doing you know, shampoo commercials and everything else like that,

743
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: you can kind of understand a scenario where she might

744
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: it might not dawn on her that these opportunities are

745
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: going to be few and far between, and that's a

746
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: way to I've always said this one of the real

747
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: the misfirings of this whole policy by UFC is that

748
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: you actually minimize some of the complaints about fighter pay

749
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: when you let them bridge the gap with their own sponsors.

750
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: But okay, no one cares about that. In the end, though,

751
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: all of the mechanisms that get NBA athletes paid. Where

752
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: they can have their own shoe deal, they get a

753
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: fifth two percent essentially of all league including half of

754
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: the television revenue, which is a billion dollar plus deal. Yeah,

755
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: of course at that point, no one needs condom depot.

756
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: The only reason you would have condom depot on your

757
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: back is either one you're just a total shell for

758
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: anything that will come your way for sales, which is possible.

759
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: Or two, that's the only sponsor you can get, man,

760
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: And if that's the only one you can get, then

761
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: that means it's a very very valuable one to you,

762
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: no matter how much it may seem to be for

763
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: us in terms of how small it might be. So

764
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: kind of I would say unbelievable for Rossie. But given

765
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: the recent string of comments B see.

766
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: Le, let's stip into that real quick and that we

767
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 3: can get out. I don't want to make Jay angry.

768
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've got a couple other jobs you got to.

769
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 3: You got a heart out here heard on for your

770
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: heart out. Is Rosie really that awful or is she

771
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: just not who her stardom played her up to be

772
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: as America's sweetheart in The Ultimate Babyface. And obviously we

773
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: saw how she dealt with the feet and she's very

774
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: you know, she's very defensive and sort of sensitive in

775
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 3: certain categories that we were surprised about. Is she really

776
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: that bad at the end of the day or she

777
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: just not who she was built up to be. Luke

778
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: be very honest here, because people love hate and Rousey.

779
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: So there's both. There's both right where if you get

780
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: thrust into startup. I think John Jones dealt with this

781
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: early in his career. Remember the day he beat Showgun,

782
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: he'd also capture the Percher Snatcher, you know, the same day,

783
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: And so there's this whole idea that they want you

784
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: to be the hero to them. We're all finding out

785
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: now about Michael Jordan or if you don't already know,

786
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily saying he's the best guy, right, and part

787
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: of the reason why he was so successful could be

788
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: related to that. But here's the point. Yes, there's a

789
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: yawning gap in expectations and reality, and I think that

790
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: disillusions some people. There's this other sort of like general

791
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: she just doesn't seem to be aware of what the

792
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: wealth she has means. So before this she was saying, Hey,

793
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: we're dealing with this whole COVID nineteen situation. You know,

794
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: you should be able to live off the land and

795
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: not be not be self sufficient and not worry about

796
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: having to get to the grocery store. It's like, yeah, well,

797
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: if all of us could afford farm land, uh, and

798
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: you know, goats and shit and people to help us

799
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: work and install that we find that's a great idea.

800
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: But that seems like you have to be the kind

801
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: of clueless about your own wealth. And then here it's like, yeah,

802
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: of course you don't want condom to people. We guess

803
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: having condom depot on your back or you know, Royal

804
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: Palace dot com. It's not a great look. But if

805
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: this is your small waydow to get money and that's

806
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: your only sponsor, it's the best sponsor you could possibly have.

807
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: And she does doesn't seem to have sympathy or realization

808
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: about the realities of that.

809
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: Way active self awareness. The extreme example of that is

810
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: when she, you know, went after Floyd Mayweather for is

811
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: domestic violence background and at the same time she was

812
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 3: getting married to Travis Brown, who's got the same kind

813
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 3: of thing. So yeah, it is what it is.

814
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: Look, okay, all right, all right, BC, Well sorry about

815
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: the number four, jab, I'm just gonna blame you anyway.

816
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: We move now to point five and B see this

817
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: is your little pet project that we wanted to do,

818
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: so let's do it. Let's go through the top five

819
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: albums of influence. Now, BC, you'll go first, will go five, five, four, four, three, three,

820
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: two two one one, So tell us number one? Who's

821
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: your number five choice? And I guess? And before that,

822
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: what does it mean to have an album of influence

823
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: versus top five overall?

824
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, look, if you're gonna do what you

825
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 3: actually think are the top five greatest of all time,

826
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: you're probably most of us are gonna have, you know, Pearl,

827
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: Jim Beatles, led zeppein albums filling these out but in

828
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: honor of four twenty today, because look, tell me if

829
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. The best part about four to twenty is

830
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: the way music changes you from the inside out. Luke,

831
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: tell me I'm wrong.

832
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: Uh, if that's the best part about four twenty, Now,

833
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: the best part about four twenty is getting baked out

834
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: of your gourd.

835
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: You don't hear Jimmy or our guitar change you feel

836
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: at Luke, it becomes part of your DNA.

837
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: Right.

838
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: It's the I said, it's like a dog whistle to hippies.

839
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: It just I mean, there's there's a there's something there, Luke,

840
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 3: there's a there's a conversation that happens that doesn't involve

841
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: words from soul to the audible. Do you get where

842
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: I'm going here? Am I getting a little bit double

843
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: rainbow weird on you?

844
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: One of the key benefits to drug use, as it

845
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: relates to marijuana is how it enhances art and the

846
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: art experience.

847
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, so in honor of that. Today,

848
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: what's an influential album? It's you know, it's an album

849
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: that certainly would contend in your top five or ten

850
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: all time, But essentially it's sometimes it's an awakening to

851
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: a new genre that sort of changed course in your

852
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: musical journey to be open to new things. Sometimes it

853
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: defines a certain era or period of your time, Luke.

854
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just an album that you've listened to five

855
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: thousand times because it was that good. It's sort of

856
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: a little bit more general and open and Luke, I've

857
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: always said this. I don't mean to be too much Jay,

858
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 3: back back the f up Jay, okay, first of all.

859
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: Second of all, Luke, you can tell a lot about

860
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: a person, certainly from their eating habits and you know

861
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: where I come from, but from their listening habits. I

862
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: don't need to be a music stop here, Luke. Okay,

863
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: but you can tell a lot about a way a

864
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: person is wired, how they get down, so to speak.

865
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: You got it in with me, You're ready for this?

866
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, let's do this all right.

867
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: Hit me with number five. Jay, Let's do this all right.

868
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 3: It's Exile on Main Street, the nineteen seventy two Rolling

869
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 3: Stones classic. Here, Luke, if you're not well spoken on it.

870
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 3: Here's the deal. It's in the midst of a five

871
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: album consecutive period that I'm literally gonna put up with

872
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: any band in the history of rock or popular music

873
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: from just consistency, beginning with Beggars Banquet and Let It

874
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: Bleed all the way through Goats Head Soup. The continuing

875
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: thread in there is that's the Mick Taylor era, the

876
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: blues English legend on guitar. On the guitar, and here's

877
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 3: the deal about this? What does this sound like? This

878
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 3: is their most non commercial commercial successful album. From this standpoint,

879
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: imagine if you took the greatest live band of all time,

880
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: which at one point the Rolling Stones were considered. This

881
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: put them in a sweaty French mansion basement, have them

882
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 3: run from tax officials, have them all addicted to heroin,

883
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: and basically having them staying up all night on eighteen

884
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 3: hour binges with a parade of celebrity session musicians from

885
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: other genres, and you put them all together there Luke

886
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: in their highest balls, and they're dripping sweat and one

887
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen degrees and they're just making this soup

888
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: of incredible influential genre crossing barriers. On surface, exell Main

889
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: Street sounds like the best bar band you ever heard,

890
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: a boozy blue sound, but the influences of gospel, the

891
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: influences of country rock are just incredible on this. Yeah,

892
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: it's got a couple hits you'll remember, but it's largely

893
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: non easily accessible compared to the other rock radio classic

894
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: rock hits that you've heard from them. And what it

895
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: ultimately defines to me, Luke, is this Luke? You ever

896
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: been on a bender you ever lived the rock star

897
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: life for a while.

898
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: Luke, this is the longest number five explanation imaginable.

899
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: I mean, you can argue this is the best segment

900
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: we've ever done on this show. But there's a point, Luke.

901
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: Sometimes when you're in the midst of that, you know

902
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 3: you're going the wrong direction. You know you're going wrong.

903
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: You know it's hard on your body and on your life,

904
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: and it's probably gonna end really bad. But there's a

905
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 3: reason you keep doing it because it feels so good.

906
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: This music is definitely a soundtrack to that feeling. Luke.

907
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get through the day so I

908
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: can get to the night. And this music really sums

909
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: it up. I've ever heard this, Luke, it might change

910
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: your life.

911
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: So here's my number five. I'll be a little bit more.

912
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: I'll use some brevity here. I slightly changed the definition

913
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: of what you had asked for influential. I meant for

914
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: my musical taste, how I arrived at the position that

915
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: I am in today. Number five is easy for me.

916
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: It's helmet aftertaste. I believe this was their second, perhaps

917
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: third album. Have to look this up, but this was

918
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: the one where this was following Milk Toast. I believe

919
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: this was the album for me that I had missed

920
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: all of Helmet's previous work, and I had found this

921
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: one in the summer, I believe of ninety seven is

922
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: when I found it, and I had never heard a

923
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: record that was It was at the same time very

924
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: cleanly produced, especially relative to Meantime and other records that

925
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: were done by Helmet, as I discovered after the fact,

926
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: and yet had this grittiness. And it was one of

927
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: these albums where it opened my mind to the possibility

928
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: of heavier directions rock could take, of what vocals could

929
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: sound like, of how they could songs could be long, short.

930
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: It's got clean riffs, It's got absolutely in your face,

931
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: powerful dynamic lyrics. It's just one of these moments where

932
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: I realized I had been listening to sort of the

933
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: softer end of things, and there was a lingering inside

934
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: of me for something that told me you could have

935
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more in another direction. Deftones, Board and

936
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: Around the Fur were also like that as well, but

937
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: it was this record, and because the level of craftsmanship

938
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: that went into the creation of the songs as you

939
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: go through and even today on my playlist exactly what

940
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: you wanted from this album maybe one of my favorites

941
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: songs of all time, just so perfect, a mix of punk, metal, groove, thrash,

942
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: and so you could go in myriad directions from it.

943
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: It was this album that I began to explore different

944
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: musical directions. You're number four, sir.

945
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 3: That's interesting. Look, I hadn't been woke to helmet or

946
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 3: listened in the past. And your breakdown of which genres

947
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: they fall into. I'm gonna give a little sample test

948
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 3: for you. All right, let's roll on, because Luke's clearly

949
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: angry at this point. Let's go to number four, Jay,

950
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: can you can you show me here? Luke? Indie rock,

951
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: dad rock, call it what it is. But for me,

952
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: this was my entrance into that. It was the two

953
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: thousand and three, the third album for the band My

954
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 3: Morning Jacket. It still moves. Now, what's indie rock? It's

955
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 3: basically at its definition like independent label, non mainstream rock,

956
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 3: but it's certainly become its own genre within the styles

957
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: you're meshing together. And for me, you know, I mean,

958
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: I guess that's core indie rock has some post punk elements,

959
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: some new wave, but My Morning Jacket takes the essence

960
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: of what seventies classic rock sounds like and sort of

961
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: ran it through the filter of indie rock. And when

962
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 3: they came out with this in two thousand and three,

963
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: it's got a mix of genres on it, but at

964
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: the same time it's just playing rocks. It might have

965
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: the most beautiful song ever written in Golden check that

966
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: out if you haven't. But there's some haunting melodies and

967
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: vocals in this from Jim James, the lead singer. That again,

968
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: it's one of those things that speak to you on

969
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 3: a level that you can't communicate with words. This is

970
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: a great band and this was their absolute masterpiece, recorded

971
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: in a shed in the middle of the woods, like

972
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: all great rock and roll ultimately is, unless you're in

973
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: a French basement on tax evasion, high on heroin like

974
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: the Stones ahead of Exile, but Luke. If you are

975
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 3: looking for a definition of the coolest groove within indie rock,

976
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: which has really become the modern rock of what is cool,

977
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 3: very few bands Pearl Gams one of them, is able

978
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: to carry sort to carry their distinct sound into this

979
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: modern time. Indie rock has sort of become the backdrop

980
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 3: for all of us who loved classic rock in high school. This,

981
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 3: to me is the best example of it.

982
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: Luke Okay. From my number four, I will go with

983
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: Jedi Mind Trix Servants in Heaven Kings in Hell. This

984
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: was I think their third or fourth album as well. Again,

985
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: I got to them late. I did not know about

986
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: some of their earlier albums, Violent by Design and whatnot.

987
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: But here's what I will say. I was looking for

988
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: some rap in the two thousand and eight. I had

989
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: a producer of mine from my previous radio show. Othello

990
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: was his name, and I was describing to him the

991
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: sound I was looking for, and I was lamenting that

992
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: there was nothing in modern rap like that anymore. He

993
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: began to play for me heavy Metal Kings, which is

994
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: from this album, and I was blown away by the sound.

995
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of horror core, but the very

996
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: very edge of that that leads it. That's kind of

997
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: like a mix of gangs to rap with with, you know,

998
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: sort of like death imagery. It's my wheelhouse. This was

999
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: the hip hop. I didn't know that I was missing that.

1000
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: When I found it, I finally found my home. And

1001
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: if you go back through the Jedi my Trix catalog.

1002
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm not even suggesting this is their best album, but

1003
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: this one has my favorite Sean Price verse on a

1004
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: recipe Seawan Price my favorite MC on Outlive the War

1005
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: when he described himself as the beat beast master heat

1006
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: Clapper speaking the facts. It's one of my favorite verses ever.

1007
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: Alady the Rugged Man has maybe one of the best

1008
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: ever versus in protest rap on uncommon valor about the

1009
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: Vietnam War. It's just banger after banger after banger, and

1010
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: it's an underground record that again opened my mind to

1011
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: what was possible. It's how I discovered Army of the

1012
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: Pharaohs self titled Apathy, Soteric and Beyond, Vinnie Paz and

1013
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: more of them. This was a game changer for me

1014
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: in my listening twenties. I am so grateful that this

1015
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: was the starting off point for a new direction I

1016
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: was able to take.

1017
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: Very well, said Luke. Let's roll on to number three. Here, Jay, look,

1018
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit you with one we all love, one

1019
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 3: we all know, and it's Fortiances to Freedom, the Sublime Classic.

1020
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: Here's the deal, looke. I mean, this is the ultimate

1021
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: melting pot of genres mixed together, and it's amazing the

1022
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: idea of this sort of surf reggae rock mixed in

1023
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 3: with almost a rap sensibility in a very SKA punk

1024
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 3: post punk like like Opportunity. But here's the deal. I

1025
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: came up through sixty classic seventies classic rock. Like all

1026
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: of us in high school. We all got to the

1027
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: point where, yeah, we love the Doors, we love led Zeppelin,

1028
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,959
Speaker 3: we love those classic albums. We listened to them add

1029
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: nauseum to the point where we couldn't appreciate them anymore.

1030
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: We've all been through that. So I started to become

1031
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: a preservist in the late nineties, where I realized very

1032
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: early that Abbey Road was the greatest album in rock history.

1033
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: So I started saying, Okay, I can only listen to

1034
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 3: this album like once a month or once per year

1035
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 3: on a holiday, because I cannot get to the point

1036
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 3: where it sounds average to me. I need that feeling,

1037
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: that rush of just brilliance coming out of there. Why

1038
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: am I setting it up with this? I had weird

1039
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: music rules of how much I can over listen to

1040
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: something until I heard forty Ounces to Freedom for the

1041
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: first time. I believe it was the summer of ninety eight,

1042
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 3: Luke and yeah, there was four to twenty involved. Believe that.

1043
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: And here's the deal, Luke, I listened to this on

1044
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: a loop over and over and over and over again,

1045
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: like ten, twelve, fifteen times the day. It was the

1046
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: first album that really allowed me that where it never

1047
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 3: worn out. In fact, to this it's almost priceless to me.

1048
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: It feels like listening to it like I'm hearing it

1049
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: for the first time. Luke and I think there's a

1050
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 3: genius in what they put together, and maybe they didn't

1051
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: even realize that these guys are legends. We all had

1052
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: the album which followed this, the self titled Commercial One,

1053
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 3: But this is the real gold of what Bradley Newlam

1054
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: then we're able to do. And it crosses so many

1055
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: genres and it kind of was one of those where

1056
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: there's just no rules, you know, like yeah, Limp Biscuit

1057
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: combined genres to a point where you wanted to do

1058
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: it all for the nookie and hang yourself. This right here, Luke,

1059
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 3: was just perfection in that regard. I mean, they touch

1060
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 3: on every sort of style you can put it on

1061
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: at any time. It's amazing.

1062
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: Happy four twenty t you, Luke and I believe they

1063
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: did a Grateful Dead cover on this album.

1064
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yes they did so.

1065
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: For my number three, I'll go in a bit of

1066
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: a different direction. Now, this is not one of my

1067
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: favorite albums. Remember the question here is influence, But this

1068
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: was one that helped me understand the nineties, maybe better

1069
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: than any other album for hip hop that I have

1070
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: heard up to that point. DJ clues first the Professional

1071
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: Desert Storm Records nineteen ninety eight. Why was this so important?

1072
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: If you go back and look at who's on this,

1073
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: it has the cast of characters you would imagine Diddy

1074
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: is on this. You have DMX, Dragon Eve, Nas, jay Z,

1075
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: Cannabis when cannabis was still good. You had Big Pond,

1076
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: you had Norny, you had Flip Mode. I mean, you

1077
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: could go on and on. It was everyone. It was

1078
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: a who's who essentially of all the best nineties and

1079
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: then of course it led into the aughts as well.

1080
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: But it also had more than that. It had skits.

1081
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: They don't dose skits on rap albums anymore, And I

1082
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: realized that's very antiquated to say. But what I mean

1083
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: to what I mean trying to describe is this album

1084
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: helped me understand better things about what DMX's catalog was

1085
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: worth pursuing, and nas Nas was on this with with

1086
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: Queen's song, I can't even say the whole title because

1087
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: it's got words that Phil Mushnick must like. Neither here

1088
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: nor there. It was just another way to a It

1089
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: was a mirror holding up to the nineties, and it

1090
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: was also a roadmap to go and discover more from

1091
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: perhaps artists you might have mixed missed. There were subsequent

1092
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: professional albums. I think DJ Kalu made two or three

1093
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: of these. His influences certainly waned. He was tied kind

1094
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: of to that era. But when the professional came out

1095
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: and there's a song called Fantastic four which has Cameron,

1096
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: it has Nori, Big Pun and Cannabis on it. It

1097
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: is one of the best songs of the nineties in

1098
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: hip hop and what you're looking for a lyrical MCS

1099
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: and it was a It was a as I mentioned,

1100
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: a roadmap to discover more.

1101
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: I love it, I love it. We're gonna move on

1102
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: to number two here. I'm gonna hicke you up with

1103
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 3: one of the best albums of all time, Luke, but

1104
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 3: very influential for me. Heartbreaker by Ryan Adams his first

1105
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: soul album.

1106
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: Coming off Off, we listened to very different music coming

1107
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: off Luke.

1108
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 3: Of the work he did fronting the alternative country band

1109
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: Whiskey Town, which I love. But here's the deal. Late nineties,

1110
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 3: early two thousands, right when this hit, I no longer

1111
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 3: believe that I could enjoy popular music. Yeah. I liked

1112
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 3: the little hip hop on the side, some nice party music,

1113
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: but I'm still listening to nothing but classic rock. I

1114
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 3: didn't believe. You know that indie stretch really didn't hit

1115
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 3: me to a few years later. I didn't believe you

1116
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 3: can do this. I always loved me some Bob Dylan

1117
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 3: probably my favorite artist of all time. When this album

1118
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: came out, everyone pre early days on the internet, music

1119
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 3: magazines was saying, this is the new Dylan, This is

1120
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: the only one, and look for it. There's been a

1121
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: million new Dylans. I think this album is the only

1122
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: thing that's ever come close to it. It's a masterpiece

1123
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: of simplicity. Yes, it's a very dark and depressive record

1124
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 3: through a lot of ways, very very post breakup, but

1125
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 3: you know a lot of ways, it served as a

1126
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 3: soundtrack to my life during these lost years and really

1127
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: opened me up to the idea that people in the

1128
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: modern age could recreate the folk and almost country rock

1129
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 3: influences of the sixties and actually do it the right way.

1130
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: And this was the album that led me to believe

1131
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: that again and eventually got me into indie rock. And

1132
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: Ryan Adams has become kind of like Dylan, so many

1133
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 3: different things from this album and trying out so many

1134
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 3: different genres. Just when you think you like that album

1135
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: or you like who Is, watch out he'll come out

1136
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 3: with something you hate the next year. But this, to

1137
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: me is just him a guitar, roots folk rock, and

1138
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: it's it's it's beautiful, Luke, and it's and it's sad,

1139
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: and it's dark and it's lonely. And we've all been there, Luke,

1140
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 3: and I lived in this one, all right.

1141
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: I was you like them, You like sad white people

1142
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: in music?

1143
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 3: Huh, Well, I had some sad years and you do

1144
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 3: need a soundtrack for that, Luke.

1145
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I suppose that's true. For my number two, this

1146
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: one's pretty obvious. From nineteen ninety two Metal Blade Records,

1147
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: Tomb of the Mutilated by Cannibal Corpse. We all get

1148
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: over this.

1149
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: It's a classic.

1150
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: It is a classic. It's the third studio album. It's

1151
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: the last with the original lineup. It had Chris Barnes

1152
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: on vocals before he departed. Now, of course Corpse Grinder

1153
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: is the is the lyricist and the singer. But here's

1154
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: what's importing about this. This was nineteen ninety two. This

1155
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: was their third album. This was the one that has

1156
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: their famous song hammer Smash Face that was played on

1157
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: ace Ventura. It kind of of their known calling cards song,

1158
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: as it were. But again, I go through this music.

1159
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: It's not even one of my favorite records because it's not,

1160
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: but this was the one that opened my eyes to

1161
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: what was possible with this genre. They're kind of the

1162
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: defining band in death metal to you know, they're not

1163
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: really death core, but bands like death core and metal

1164
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: core were sort of offshoots of what kind of Cannibal

1165
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: Corpse was doing. And again, this is why I like

1166
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: what they're doing. It's totally unapologetic art designed for mass

1167
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean to absolutely just lean into the excesses of

1168
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do. Times ten, listen to some

1169
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 1: of these songs, Hammer Smashed Face, I Come, Blood, Split

1170
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: Wide Open, the Cryptic Stench Entrails ripped from a virgin

1171
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: c post mortal ejaculation, beyond the cemetery, and so on

1172
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: and so on these and you listen to this, you're like,

1173
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is horrific. Who could do it?

1174
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: But when you really begin to understand why they're trying

1175
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: to do it, and how what it resulted in, and

1176
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: to what extent, quite honestly, free speech ties into all

1177
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: of this, you begin to realize there are people who

1178
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: are making art that maybe you don't like, but they're

1179
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: making it for art's sake. They're not really rich off

1180
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: any of them stuff. They're just into it, and they're

1181
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: doing it without apology, and it results in art that

1182
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: is you may like it, you may not, but uncorrupted essentially,

1183
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: And that is what I'm looking for. I am looking

1184
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: for people who make art for art's sake, whether or

1185
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: not it results in commercial success, whether or not it

1186
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: results in adoring fans, whether or not it gets people

1187
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: to really into their message. I want people who have

1188
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: a message and either you're into it or you're not,

1189
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: but this is what we do. Two of them, Mutilated

1190
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: is the flagship for people who are into that.

1191
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 3: Wow, Luke, you seriously, you just summed up the spirit

1192
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 3: of the show with that whole rant. I can respect that.

1193
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: Go ahead, my friend, No, I'm being legit, right, No,

1194
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think it's exactly correct.

1195
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 3: You don't have to love what we're doing here, but

1196
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 3: it is original, it is unique. My number one most

1197
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 3: influential album is this I'm gonna say, and you're gonna

1198
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 3: roll your eyes, Luke, but it's an interesting one. It's

1199
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 3: the nineteen eighty one live album called Reckoning by the

1200
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 3: Grateful Dad, which was reported which was recorded over two concerts,

1201
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 3: including Radio City Music Hall on nineteen eighty in which

1202
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: the Dead Fam went on a year and a half

1203
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 3: run of doing an opening set just acoustic only, almost

1204
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 3: like the precursor to Unplugged. And here's what it is, Luke.

1205
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: I listened to the The the Dead favorite hits a

1206
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: couple you know, growing up, But I never was going

1207
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 3: to go into that pool dive in unless I was

1208
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 3: willing to go head first and sort of make it

1209
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 3: my life, because I had a respect for the depth

1210
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: of their music and the volume. So it was a point, Luke,

1211
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: where I wanted an entry point, but I said, I'm

1212
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: not gonna do it. I'm a completist, I'm a passive

1213
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: I got passion, Luke, I got to hear it all. This,

1214
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: oddly enough, was not only my entrant entry point to

1215
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: the Dead, hearing some of these classic tunes in a

1216
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 3: very harmony filled acoustic way. Some of these performances are

1217
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: not that out of line to those two famous Dead albums,

1218
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 3: Working Men's Dead and American Beauty, which have a much

1219
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: different sound than their typical live sound. But what this

1220
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: was not only an entry point for the Grateful Dead,

1221
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 3: but a change in my musical direction from traditional classic

1222
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,959
Speaker 3: rock and maybe the folkist I got was Bob Dylan

1223
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 3: to a whole avenue where I understood, brought in and

1224
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: loved genres like bluegrass, Americana, country rock. And the problem

1225
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: with country rock is it's got the word country in it, Luke.

1226
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: Same thing with alternative country, which was a genre in

1227
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 3: the late nineties that this album spun me into. When

1228
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 3: people hear country, they think CMT, they think all of

1229
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 3: these you know, bear in a heartbreak and a pickup

1230
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 3: truck crap. Obviously, it's a reference to real country, the classics,

1231
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 3: and it's an evolution from that and the best genre

1232
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 3: in the world. My favorite genre of music is absolutely

1233
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: alternative country because it takes the roots of bluegrass and

1234
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 3: folk and pop and sort of meshes them together in

1235
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 3: a very sort of modern way with a rock sensibility.

1236
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: And to me, this album was the one that turned

1237
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 3: me in that direction, going back to the Grand Parsons,

1238
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: the Birds when they became a country rock outfit, through

1239
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 3: the Red the Flying Burrito Brothers. I don't get there

1240
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: unless I heard this one, Luke, and I know you

1241
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 3: hate it. You're gonna roll your eyes at a bunch

1242
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 3: of long haired hippies playing acoustic guitar and singing in harmony.

1243
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: But this got me into something like old and in

1244
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: the way people that are dead fans Nola, Jerry Garcia's

1245
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 3: bluegrass spinoff band. It's incredible, harmonies, are beautiful, and it's

1246
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: everything I really want in music.

1247
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 1: Glupe for Me my number one nineteen ninety two at

1248
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: Co Records. It was their sophomore attempt. Vulgar Display of

1249
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 1: Power by Panthera. I can't say enough good things about

1250
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: this record. Here's what it meant for me. If you

1251
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: were into Master of Puppets and Injustice for All, Pantera

1252
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: had a different sound. They came from a different part

1253
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: of the country. They had their own thing going. Yes,

1254
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: it was similar kind of groove metal thrash metal scenarios,

1255
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: but the sounds are different. Here's what people have to understand.

1256
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: When nineteen ninety one's The Black Album came out by Metallica,

1257
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: that was a pretty clear departure from what and Justice

1258
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: Faroll Master of Puppets, Ride the Lightning, Kill Them All

1259
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: had sounded like, and it was massively influential for other people.

1260
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: It was massively successful the band to for to what

1261
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: two plus years non stop. It is a huge, huge record.

1262
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: I can't say anything otherwise, but it was. It was

1263
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: a letdown. It was not what it was what folks

1264
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: had expected, and it was, as you could recall then

1265
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: the beginning of their journey into Saint Anger and my

1266
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: lifestyle determines my death style and all that kind of

1267
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: awful stuff load that they had produced, just nonsensical bullshit.

1268
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety two's Vulgar Display of Power was what Metallica

1269
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: should have sounded like. It was. It was Vinnie Paul,

1270
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: it was Phil Anselmo Rex and dime back Daryl picking

1271
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: up the torch for that angry in your face again

1272
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: to a degree, unapologetic, still groove, Southern Texas, that kind

1273
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: of a thing, really sort of masculine, aggressive music in

1274
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Speaker 1: your face. That that Yes, the Metallica boys are from

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Speaker 1: the Bay Area, but it was that that was what

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01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: they were supposed to sound like. And the you to

1277
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Speaker 1: think about Metallica was you could listen to the Black

1278
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Speaker 1: Album and say, I'm not really a metal fan, but

1279
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Speaker 1: I like the Black Album. You can't listen to vulgar

1280
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Speaker 1: display of Power and be on the fence. You're either

1281
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: in or you're out buco and for me, I was

1282
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent and I am a metal fan. It

1283
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: is impossible to say a you are a metal fan

1284
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Speaker 1: and that you don't like vulgar display of power, and

1285
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Speaker 1: it's impossible to be a fence sitter. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: what was interesting about that album was it pulled people

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Speaker 1: in who may have been fence sitters previously. It is

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Speaker 1: an identifying marker of a generation. It is one of

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Speaker 1: the most important records of the nineties of that genre,

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Speaker 1: and it is in my rotation to this day. It

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Speaker 1: is an all time classic, front to back.

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Speaker 3: Look. I respect the way you framed vulgar cannibalistic hardcore

1293
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: metal choices under a sensible influence in how they have

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01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 3: shaped you. I'm not saying I want to run out

1295
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 3: and make abortion rock part of my regular life, but

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Speaker 3: I do respect you as a man, Luke. I now

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01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 3: have a better understanding of who you are and how

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Speaker 3: you came to be.

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Speaker 1: I've been I've been angry for a lot of my life, Brian,

1300
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: and this music helped me.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it helped you get angrier, probably, but it also

1302
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 3: helped you find your.

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01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: Own help me, it helped me. It helped me enjoy

1304
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: that anger. I'll put it that way.

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Speaker 3: It helped you find an on your on apologetic own

1306
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: lane to success. And now you're an independent star, Luke

1307
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 3: who reaches into the corporate mainstream once in a while

1308
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 3: to put on this show under a very individual freedom.

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Speaker 3: And I'm part of that journey and I love it.

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Speaker 1: Luke. Okay, Well that in mind, we have you.

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Speaker 3: You are. You could not have no sold me more

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Speaker 3: during this segment, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Of just like Brian, it's one oh four, dude, we

1314
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: have got to get moving. I don't even want to

1315
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: be Jay, but I'm kind of being Jay. All right,

1316
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: let's do this with that in mind, it's time for

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01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: dms from dolls. Do I have these? Did you guys

1318
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: send these to me? Send it to me? Now I

1319
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: can just read them on the screen, doesn't matter. All right,

1320
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Speaker 1: let's do this. Put them up on the screen, Jay,

1321
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't even worry about it. Just send them on here.

1322
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Speaker 3: Do you think they then go to hurry up? You

1323
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 3: think that's what they told him?

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Speaker 1: Uh? All right? From Jared H. Baker BC. Two years

1325
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: down the line, who do you favor in a Alomachenko

1326
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: versus Shaquer Stevenson? About?

1327
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 3: Uh? Two years will put what Lomachenko? I think around

1328
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 3: thirty five years old. We'd have to see if he

1329
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 3: was able to retain the same magic of who he

1330
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 3: is now. He's already a little bit over his head

1331
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 3: fighting at lightweight. He has to take some punishment. We

1332
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 3: ston't get dropped by by that handsome fellow Lenaris that time.

1333
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Speaker 3: Shaquer Stevenson is the one guy in this group of

1334
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 3: the guys who have next the tail femos, the Devin Haines,

1335
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 3: et cetera, who I think has the highest ceiling, who

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01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 3: I think most might actually be Floyd like in the

1337
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 3: end because of his brashnist mix with his speed and

1338
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Speaker 3: his understanding of technique. Two years from now, without really

1339
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 3: knowing who Loma is, I'm in right now, Shakers at

1340
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 3: one twenty six, he'd have to move up to thirty five.

1341
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Speaker 3: I'll take Shaque Stevenson. But believe me, it'd be it'd

1342
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Speaker 3: be great.

1343
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: Look, let me ask you this a bit of a

1344
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: different way to frame it. Let's assume that the layoff lasts,

1345
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: not that life doesn't get back to some normalcy within

1346
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: a year. But let's say between all these interruptions and

1347
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: boxing having fits and starts, let's say that boxing matches

1348
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: are off for roughly a year. Who does that help

1349
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: and hurt the most? Related to that those two divisions,

1350
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: let's say.

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Speaker 3: You know, bodies respond differently, like, okay, so Lomachenko potentially

1352
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 3: with time off to rest any lingering injuries to recharge

1353
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 3: his brain and his body. Obviously that could do great things.

1354
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 3: It also could just make them a little bit older.

1355
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 3: I mean, we've had this debate about like could a

1356
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 3: long break help with Deontay Wilder. You can go back

1357
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: in the gym and maybe learn some things and sharpen

1358
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: some tools that weren't there before because he hadn't had

1359
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 3: the time. It's really hard to fully predict that. But

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Speaker 3: I think when you're putting age versus youth, I'm gonna

1361
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: favor age on time off. I mean, I'm gonna favorite youth.

1362
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm gonna favor youth on time off. That

1363
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 3: Chackker Stevenson just gonna get better, quicker, stronger, faster.

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Speaker 1: Got it? Okay, next, Jay, let's see what we got here.

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Speaker 1: Bomp out a bomb bomp from Maxwell underscore. Bishop, Hey, donks,

1366
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Speaker 1: did you all catch the Last Dance documentary last night? BC?

1367
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: You want to talk about it here after, might as.

1368
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 3: Well just hit that hard right here right rather?

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01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know so, So the answer is BC and

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Speaker 1: I both watched it. We both loved it. BC. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what I liked about it. One. I like

1372
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Speaker 1: how a new generation of fans are beginning to understand

1373
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: what Michael Jordan meant to our youth as teenagers and

1374
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: even a little bit younger than that. So it's good

1375
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: that that that's now being shown if people are realizing

1376
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: he was you know, you heard Michael Wilbon say there

1377
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: was Muhammad Ali. There was was it? Babe? Ruth was

1378
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: the other one. And then there was Michael Jordan. You

1379
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine how big a deal he was, even you know,

1380
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: with all the stories being told, you have to live it,

1381
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: and this gives you a chance to live it. I

1382
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: love all the side stories. I didn't realize, dude, Pippen

1383
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: signed a seven year deal for eighteen million, Like who

1384
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: was advising him on? That was the UFC? His agent?

1385
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: Like who? How was he so criminally underpaid? I couldn't

1386
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: believe it. It was cool to see him come up.

1387
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: And all these guys were not automatic. So Lebron was

1388
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: pinpointed as a star in high school from the I

1389
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: mean even before age fourteen, Pippen wasn't like that. Even

1390
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: Jordan to an extent, was not like that. They sort

1391
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: of matured into these guys and it made him tough

1392
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: and mean. I love that. I love the oversized suits

1393
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: BC that don't fit that they all kind of wore,

1394
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, I just I loved how it reminded me.

1395
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I'll say about those bulls. I grew

1396
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: up with a family, as you know, Brian, they were

1397
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: much more into the books than they were you know,

1398
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: the baseballs or the basketballs. They didn't really, they were

1399
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: not sports fans to the extent I've ever become one.

1400
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: I had to just do on my own. Even my

1401
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: older brother wasn't really into it, and I remember those

1402
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: nineties bulls taught me to love basketball, just to watch

1403
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: the excellence repeated over the years and to see all

1404
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: the different pieces, the Luke Longley's, the Tony Kuko and

1405
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: of course the bigger pieces of the puzzle. They taught

1406
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: a kid who didn't know anything about basketball what it

1407
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: meant to look like at its highest level, and it

1408
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: has created an enduring love for it, even to age forty.

1409
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 3: I love that there's a Holy Grail element to this

1410
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 3: when you read the backstory. ESPN did a good job

1411
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 3: putting out stories this week that tell this backstory that

1412
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: this footage existed of that ninety eight season, but yet

1413
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: was in locked in vault and only Jordan and NBA

1414
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 3: Entertainment collectively together could approve it finally seeing the light

1415
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 3: of day. So it's the perfect timing right now, obviously

1416
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 3: with coronavirus to rush this out, but it tells such

1417
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 3: an interesting tale of management becoming, you know, overly prideful

1418
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: on their role in putting together a great team in

1419
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 3: a dynasty. It's crazy to look back and see how

1420
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 3: willingly they were trying to break that up right in

1421
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 3: the middle of winning. I mean, how many times do

1422
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 3: we see franchises just try to roll the dice one

1423
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 3: more time with old guys, to try to recapture that

1424
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 3: magic one more time. They were act actually trying to

1425
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: break them up, and did break them off after that

1426
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 3: ninety eight season, running off Phil Jackson and Jordan, and

1427
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 3: obviously Pippin finally got paid when he went to the

1428
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: Rockets for one year. This is I love it. It's

1429
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 3: brilliantly done. It's my wheelhouse of nineties basketball, certainly, but

1430
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 3: for being so overexposed as Michael Jordan is like he's

1431
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 3: everywhere we've seen, We've grown up with him, we've seen

1432
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 3: him everywhere. He's so under exposed from revealing his real self.

1433
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 3: And some of that has always been his reluctance to

1434
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 3: share opinions about politics or taking stance on race in

1435
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 3: the public eye. So we really only had like that

1436
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 3: right Thompson piece a few years back on ESPN that

1437
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: delved into who at this age is Jordan? You know,

1438
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 3: his Hall of Fame speech kind of peeled back that

1439
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 3: he's still that killer competitor on the inside who's holding

1440
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 3: grudges the fact that they got him to approve this.

1441
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 3: Now sit down and then drop the F word like

1442
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 3: eighteen times on regular TV. It's it's pull up my chair,

1443
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 3: it's top shelf theater. I'm with you. I'm not gonna

1444
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 3: put out eighty six tweets like everybody else. Oh the

1445
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 3: greatest thing ever? But it is. I'm loving it. It's great.

1446
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 3: And if Jay had a microphone, and by the way,

1447
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 3: Jay is a talented documentarian, he would tell you about

1448
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 3: how the space time continuum in the timeline, the herky

1449
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 3: jerky nature of it. He didn't love that, but I did,

1450
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 3: thank you.

1451
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm agnostic on it, or I should say ambivalent

1452
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: about it. Four Now, there's been moments where I questioned it,

1453
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: but it didn't overall affect my enthusiasm. But we're only

1454
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: two episodes of what ten, so we've got a little

1455
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: bit of a ways to go on this.

1456
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 3: Inside the mind of a vicious winner. Luke like, I

1457
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 3: love that ish you know.

1458
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? And by the way, people I saw on Twitter,

1459
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: people like who's the Michael Jordan of MMA? Nobody there isn't.

1460
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 1: There isn't somebody who dominated the game so thoroughly, so consistently,

1461
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 1: Not even Saint Pierre, not Silva, not Jones. All of

1462
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: them have reasons where they and again you're talking about

1463
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: TeamSport versus individuals. The analogy falls apart. But even if

1464
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: you want to get specific about it, there's nobody that

1465
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: has that record of excellence.

1466
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 3: Jones has elements of it, the talent, the ability to

1467
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 3: be pushed to the brink. But yeah, had always come

1468
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 3: out on top. But obviously, uh, the you know, the

1469
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 3: outside the cage stuff, and it doesn't have that same

1470
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 3: killer winning like going after it at the same level

1471
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 3: as Jordan, But.

1472
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Speaker 1: Who does jan Jordan was a workhorse too, yes, uh.

1473
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Speaker 1: And the last thing I'll say this BC's I know

1474
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who watch the show there like, oh,

1475
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: I only watch MMA, I don't watch other sports. Dude,

1476
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: you're missing out. You're missing out. What you really like

1477
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: is athletic excellence. How could you not want to see

1478
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: one of the best in our life. I mean, when

1479
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali died, we all kind of felt it because

1480
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: he was a part of the culture wars with Vietnam

1481
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: and the draft and everything else, and he had this

1482
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: gift of gap. And oh, by the way, he fought

1483
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: in a ring. You know, that's a close cousin of Mma.

1484
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: People are interested. I get that basketball is not that

1485
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: I understand, but once you really begin to see what

1486
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: sports is all about, and it's about athletic excellence. To

1487
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: miss what Jordan was, it's you're you're only hurting yourself.

1488
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I only listen to have a medal. I hate

1489
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: roots rock. No, you know you're missing out, bro, all right?

1490
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: All right? Next, Jay From and Vic. Have either of

1491
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: you ever been in a street fight or other tussles?

1492
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: Jesus too many? If so, why and what were the results? BC?

1493
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: I've been in a bajillion of these. You no, I haven't.

1494
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,879
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's not a surprise to my my haters

1495
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 3: on here, but I've largely avoided fights. There's certainly situations

1496
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 3: I look back and I'm like, you know, man, I

1497
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 3: should have swung at that guy. I took maybe too

1498
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 3: much crap. I've thrown some drunken punches when friends have

1499
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 3: thrown me into garbage bags on the streets of the

1500
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 3: Bronx after getting out of a college bar. Thanks Rich Vincent.

1501
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 3: I did I hate the in the shoulder, I think

1502
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: a couple of times. But no, Luke. You know I've

1503
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 3: done some boxing sparring, but uh, you know, I've taken

1504
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 3: some some bully shots as a youth, but I've never

1505
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 3: really gotten into the kind of thing that we're talking

1506
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 3: about here, Luke, give me a street fight story involving you.

1507
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 3: I know I'm supposed to watch that YouTube video of

1508
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 3: you describing seeing the greatest street fight story of all.

1509
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: The Oh yeah, I saw. I saw truly one of

1510
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: the great street fights of all time between two women

1511
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: in the DC subway. If you've never seen it, the

1512
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 1: story took it on myur YouTube channel. I was privileged

1513
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 1: that day to watch that ass whipping. That was great.

1514
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: I'd say my favorite one was a buddy of mine.

1515
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: It's not principally about me. A buddy of mine got

1516
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: back from Iraq, and he's the way it was gone.

1517
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: He had been there for a year, and he had

1518
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: three weeks off and then he had to go back

1519
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 1: and do nine more months, and so he spent the

1520
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 1: three weeks with us because his parents had moved to

1521
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: South America at the time, and you know, he was

1522
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: not doing okay? Right, he was not doing okay, but

1523
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: he wanted to go party, So what were I gonna

1524
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: say no? So we went and I'll never forget there

1525
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 1: was this woman outside his bar tending to her drunk friend,

1526
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 1: and they were both white. That's relevant because this dude

1527
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: came by, an African American dude, and he was laughing

1528
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: at the two women, and she goes shut up, and

1529
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: the dude was like, don't ever tell a black man

1530
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: to shut up, and then begins to like push her,

1531
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: like put hands on her. So we kind of were

1532
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 1: like trying to break it all up. And then my friend,

1533
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: the one who got back from Iraq, he wasn't having it, bro,

1534
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: So the other dude was like, get your hands off me.

1535
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 1: And my friend, you know, had some worse for him

1536
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: that he didn't like.

1537
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 3: Some Devin Hainy words, I'll never lose a street fights to.

1538
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: Us, something like that, and so this dude swung on

1539
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 1: my friend. And when that happened, I didn't realize this,

1540
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: but this dude had friends all with him, so they

1541
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,520
Speaker 1: swung on my other friend, they swung on me. Eventually

1542
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: we all kind of realized, what are we fighting for her?

1543
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: This is stupid. Let's break up the commotion over here.

1544
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: We actually kind of one guy got off me, I choked,

1545
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: another guy pulled him off. We all kind of agreed

1546
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: to a truce. Oh yeah, we all kind of agreed

1547
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: to a truce. And then I look over and I'll

1548
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: never forget this. My buddy who got back from me.

1549
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: I rack. His knuckle game is ferocious. Okay. I look

1550
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: over and the dude who had started all of it

1551
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: was sitting like on his ass up against a fence,

1552
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,919
Speaker 1: and my friend was unloading on him like Phil Baroni

1553
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: did Dave Manet right, I mean, just one after the other.

1554
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: And this dude was just sitting there just getting I mean,

1555
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: his face was his face was a pizza dude. His

1556
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 1: face was a p He was a mess. Then my

1557
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: friend takes the palette that was covering the downstairs, pulls

1558
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: the palette off, and it's picking this dude up by

1559
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: his shirt, blood just pouring out of his face, and

1560
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: was gonna chuck this dude down a flight of stairs.

1561
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: I look around. If everyone knows anything about DC, I

1562
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: was in Adams Morgan, which is just I mean teeming

1563
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: with people. I look around, dude, and there are I'm

1564
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: not kidding. Hundreds of people looking at us, and I'm like, dude,

1565
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: the cops are going to get here any second. So

1566
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: I grab him by one collar. I grabbed my friend

1567
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 1: by another collar. I'm like, dude, we have got to

1568
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here. And we race up

1569
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: the street of Euclid Avenue or you could you could

1570
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: street anyway, and uh, we get to the top of

1571
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,799
Speaker 1: the hill. We're kind of away from it. My friend's

1572
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: shirt is covered in blood. He just takes it off.

1573
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: He has a wife beater undernderneath that's got trickles of

1574
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: blood on it. I'm like, I think we should go home.

1575
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: He's like, no, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna

1576
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: wait for the crowd to go away, and then we're

1577
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: gonna go back to the bar. I am not here

1578
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: for very long. I may not be back. We're gonna

1579
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: get drunk. And we went back to the bars with

1580
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: him with blood on his wife beater, and nothing ever

1581
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: happened to any of us. That is one of my

1582
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: favorite stories.

1583
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,799
Speaker 3: Wow, look, there's a lot. There's a lot in that story,

1584
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 3: but we don't have the time for me to follow up.

1585
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 3: Maybe on a spin off.

1586
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: Here. Here's my thing. I always tell people this, dude,

1587
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: everyone thinks they're billy badass, but you don't know if

1588
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: you're messing with a guy who just got back from Iraq,

1589
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: who's been in a million street fights. Don't fuck with people.

1590
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,799
Speaker 1: Just don't don't do it.

1591
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,560
Speaker 3: That's been that's been the theme of my adult adherence

1592
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 3: to getting in sort of these like somebody bumps you

1593
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 3: type of deal. It's like, where's what's it worth? When?

1594
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 3: When that guy could be Hoyst Gracie and you're on

1595
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 3: a cell phone YouTube video for life getting choked out

1596
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 3: and Pete on, I mean they go whatever, right, guy,

1597
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 3: don't need to be wearing a wife beater with blood

1598
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 3: on it and go back to the bar. Okay, I'm

1599
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 3: happy in my COVID basement. Let's let's keep going here, Luke.

1600
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: All right, next worst date you guys have been on DC?

1601
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 1: You want to go first?

1602
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 3: You know I don't have it. I mean, huh, depends

1603
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 3: on how much I want to share. Yeah, I got

1604
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 3: some pretty bad ones there. But one time, though, Luke,

1605
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 3: I was on a second date and we were in

1606
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 3: a restaurant that had a dance floor and they were

1607
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 3: setting up okay, and I was sort of like they

1608
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 3: started playing nineties hits and I go, oh my god,

1609
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 3: and the girl like jokingly was like, oh, you're gonna

1610
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 3: go out and dance, and I go unless the next

1611
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 3: song is good Vibrations by Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch.

1612
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 3: No chance. It was the next song, Luke. So I

1613
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 3: had to go out there and he do do a

1614
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: little do a little white guy.

1615
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: Uh were you like this?

1616
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: Like?

1617
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 3: I had a cabbage patch a little bit and I

1618
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 3: eat my words there luke. Oh she paid that night though,

1619
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 3: So that was that was pretty nice. You know that

1620
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 3: there's some uh there's a women's right, you know.

1621
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had some bad I've had some I've had

1622
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: some bad ones. This one's really easy. This was back

1623
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: in the uh what do you want? What was it?

1624
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,560
Speaker 1: The plenty of fish days? Was that the name of

1625
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 1: the side. I can't remember it. Before I met my wife,

1626
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: I got set up on a blind date and I'll

1627
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: never do that again. So I showed it to the bar.

1628
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: But tip always meat over like coffee or a drink,

1629
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 1: never for a meal for a blind dates. Thank god.

1630
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: It was a blind date and she I couldn't tell

1631
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: if she was just weird or trying to sabotage, because

1632
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 1: within like a minute and thirty seconds of sitting down,

1633
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 1: it was NonStop, relentless talking about her cats. And this

1634
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: was happy hour, so the sun was still out. So

1635
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 1: I remember after one drink, I went to the bathroom

1636
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, I think I'm done here. I

1637
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: think I'm done here. So went back to the bar,

1638
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: plopped down. What was it, I think it was two.

1639
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: It was a two cocktails, so I think I plopped

1640
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: down like a twenty out of ten. Just enough. I

1641
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 1: was like, listen, this has been great. Got a run,

1642
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: did it? And say one other word wow, marched out,

1643
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: marched out and left, and I was just not going

1644
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: to have it. I was just not going to have it. Bro,

1645
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: that's very just.

1646
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 3: Off the dead of you. Remember when John Cusack went

1647
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 3: to pick up that girl on the day and she's like,

1648
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 3: we don't both we both don't want to be here.

1649
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 3: So I lost you thirteen ninety five. You just give

1650
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 3: me a check.

1651
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: Now, you know I didn't. I didn't stiffer with the bill.

1652
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: I didn't insult her, you know U to her face.

1653
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. We got to move along once

1654
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: we get to fifty thousand subscribers, I will tell the

1655
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: audience about the story of a different buddy of mine

1656
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: that was an army buddy of mine who got back

1657
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: by the way a ranger. True story. I'll tell you

1658
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: the story about a different buddy of mine who got

1659
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: back from Iraq, a Marine Corps buddy of mine who

1660
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: was in my unit. It is one of the most

1661
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: wild and insane stories in DC nightlife. I guarantee BC,

1662
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: you've not lived life like we did. We got thrown

1663
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: out of so many places and got into so much

1664
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: trouble it is amazing. I'm still talking to you today.

1665
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: So you get to fifty thousand subscribers, I'll tell that story.

1666
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 3: We are very closely. We are very clod that so

1667
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 3: keep subscribing.

1668
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 1: All right, we got any more of these, Jay, we

1669
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: got fire through these because we're running out time here.

1670
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: From z frosty yse favorite conspiracy theories.

1671
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 3: The UFC definitely paid Houston Alexander not to fight Kimbo

1672
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 3: Slice aggressively in that fight, thinking hey, we may have

1673
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 3: something here with him. I'm gonna go to my grave

1674
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 3: believing that I'm not accusing anybody outright, but go back

1675
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 3: and rewatch that fight? Is it really that scared of

1676
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 3: skive Kimbo?

1677
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: Really?

1678
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 3: You can't shoot for a takedown? Really?

1679
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: You know what? I don't. I don't think I have

1680
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: any favorite conspiracy theories, you see. I know that's a

1681
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: lame answer.

1682
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 3: I gotten many. I just don't want to out myself

1683
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 3: as too crazy, Luke.

1684
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I think most conspiracy theories are irredeemably stupid.

1685
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: I think most people who could take them seriously have

1686
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: mental problems. So, oh, you know what it's I don't

1687
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: believe it, but I've always thought that, like, wouldn't it

1688
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: be cool if the Lockness monster was real? But don't

1689
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: gives a shit about that anymore? All Right, all right, Luke,

1690
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 1: we got any more these days? That is that it?

1691
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: That's it? Wow, all right, it's time for haven't seen

1692
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: the shit? Take it away, get get right into it.

1693
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 3: We star of the globe, the best, the worst, the ugly,

1694
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 3: the good, the bad in between. It's have you seen

1695
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 3: this ish? Let's do it, Luke. We always start off

1696
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 3: with a knockout, so let me give this to you.

1697
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 3: The lady's name Barbara Showgun Nolepka fighting in Poland in Warsaw.

1698
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: God, hey, I like the I like the netting at

1699
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: the bottom of the ring.

1700
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 3: There, very valley twoto of them. Yes, this promotion is

1701
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:40,480
Speaker 3: called Ladies Fight Night in Warsaw Poland. How wow, hiawatha,

1702
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: look at this, Luke.

1703
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: She ducked into it too.

1704
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 3: Wow. Switch kick switch switches switch the switch.

1705
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: Kick kneecause actually a kick in the end there.

1706
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, all right, let's go to uh Rock. I

1707
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 3: think this is Russia. Look, it looks like a nondescript

1708
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 3: Eastern European place. Check out this kickboxing finish here. First,

1709
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 3: we're going to see an early knockdown figures as a

1710
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 3: kid that look just like.

1711
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 1: I like how they're wearing NBA breakaway pants.

1712
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 3: When the yeah, exactly exactly where are we right now?

1713
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 3: Inside of a warehouse? I'm not sure? Is that is

1714
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 3: that Sean Gannon in the back? Is Kimber up next?

1715
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: This is Fight Island?

1716
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so? And oh my god good?

1717
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: How did the ref let this continue? He was clearly?

1718
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: I like how the account is CTE Society.

1719
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that's great. We can't stay here long, hey,

1720
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 3: let's move on here. Speaking of funerals, Luke, these guys

1721
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 3: are getting a lot of love on the internet. Please

1722
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 3: tell me you've seen.

1723
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: This a million times.

1724
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 3: Of course, the best way to send off your boy

1725
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 3: post death, part them is to dance him into the grave. Luke,

1726
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 3: what is a stage? What's really happening here? Is this Africa?

1727
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: Luke?

1728
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 3: What's going on?

1729
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 1: I don't know where it is? It could be parts

1730
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: of a No.

1731
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 3: Oh no, just leave them, just we we'll take the

1732
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 3: l it's over. Just walk away.

1733
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: The worms will get them. Just let a rock.

1734
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 3: I mean it's not it's not like I hurt him, Luke.

1735
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 3: And we got to be honest with that. But all right, hey, uh,

1736
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 3: hey's a lot of fighters are spending their quarantine, Luke,

1737
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 3: uh training in different activities. Here's Aaron Pico doing a

1738
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 3: little bit of a dressage, a little dance with the horse.

1739
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 1: But look, get the look at the hose on this beach.

1740
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 3: Look hit the unit on that guy. Remember I told

1741
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 3: you that story about being in the Nets locker room

1742
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 3: and Cliff Robinson deep pants in front of three women.

1743
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 3: It looked a lot like this, Luke.

1744
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 1: I mean, see, I didn't, I didn't. Wow. Look at

1745
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: uh what's the name of this horse? Lex the Impaler.

1746
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 3: Is that tyrone style, Philly style.

1747
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: I mean, wow, all right, I didn't realize Tommy Lee

1748
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 1: had changed so much.

1749
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 3: Hey, Luke, let's roll on here. How about an unfortunate name.

1750
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 3: There's a prominent businessman in San Antonio. Do you want

1751
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 3: to know what his name is? Check out this headline

1752
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 3: on this story. I didn't believe this was real.

1753
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 1: From funeral services to food delivery? How dick tips be? Luke?

1754
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 3: Would you take milk from Dick Tips?

1755
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 1: Jake? How next guy does not go? My name is Richard?

1756
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: You Fox?

1757
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 3: Can we go to the next one? I mean, look

1758
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 3: at that?

1759
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: Is it?

1760
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 3: He owns a funeral parlor?

1761
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: Luke? Concerns over gravesites? Oh dick tams?

1762
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 3: What a dick? All right, Luke, here's what I got

1763
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 3: for you now. Jim fails. You love him, Luke, we

1764
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 3: all love him. How about this hard man getting down

1765
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 3: on the bench here. I'm sick of people setting up

1766
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 3: a camera while wearing a hole in their crotch on

1767
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 3: their pants. What is going on here?

1768
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: To the face the alright, we know what. That's what

1769
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: he gets for pumping the rep to begin with.

1770
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 3: Guy Luke's got another job, So let's go from here.

1771
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 3: Check out this horny Hawaiian grandma. Luke, I picked this

1772
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 3: just for you. She's holding her granddaughter's hand. Oh little

1773
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 3: swipe action there, Luke. Okay with that them, we'll check

1774
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 3: it out in slow motion. Oh my god, God, the

1775
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 3: grand kids watching what is going on here?

1776
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's just out of f to give man.

1777
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 3: Ooh grab them cakes. Okay, Luke. We want to shout

1778
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 3: out all the healthcare workers, including missus Webscream, that are

1779
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 3: out here worldwide helping us get through this pandemic. Check

1780
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 3: Out this trickster with his tribute. He's got a clip

1781
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 3: attached to that napkin under the wine. Oh no, oh no, no, Luke,

1782
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 3: this uh you got any yeah? Wait whoa hey.

1783
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna imagine he's not like Pico's horse.

1784
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 3: You got any tips for this guy, Luke, He's got

1785
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 3: one for you.

1786
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 1: Wow.

1787
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Thank you healthcare workers. All right, Luke,

1788
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 3: I want to show you the greatest not We show

1789
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 3: a lot of weird knockouts in here from all different

1790
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 3: martial arts disciplines. Check out this shit, Luke. This is

1791
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 3: the greatest knockout of all time.

1792
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: Oh that's pretty good.

1793
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 3: That dude, that's a video game. That's a friggin video game.

1794
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: Finish him.

1795
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 3: I mean, one more time at this Jay's telling me

1796
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 3: it's a cap of wear a kick. Is that true?

1797
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 3: He's had experience like it's like.

1798
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: A backwards rolling thunder.

1799
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 3: It's amazing. Could you pull that off in the UFC?

1800
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 3: Maybe Michelle Pededa can, Luke, anything is.

1801
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: Possible that you don't You haven't seen it for a reason.

1802
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: That is hard. That's a badass knockout, all right.

1803
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 3: This next one's sent in by a producer, gaff Me.

1804
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 3: Pierre shout out to Gaff this is uh, some dude

1805
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 3: out in the cul de sac just taking people out.

1806
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: Oh, I've seen this. Yeah, this is uh, this is

1807
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: Devin Haney's vision of things here because this dude, God,

1808
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: this dude just these white boys he crued. He crushes him.

1809
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: Then the mom comes out.

1810
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 3: Get the soccer kick to the back of the skull.

1811
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 3: I don't like that, Luke. I didn't sign off on.

1812
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: This, Hey, buddy, this don't mess with people.

1813
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing.

1814
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: Don't don't see the rule, man, don't mess with people.

1815
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:56,799
Speaker 3: Don't wear a wife. Peter to a DC.

1816
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: Bar two on one. They got ship for this guy.

1817
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, let's go outside the grocery store. You

1818
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 3: just never know who's who's the real who's the real man,

1819
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 3: who's tough? Check Out this grocery shopper with the bags

1820
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 3: in his hand. Oh you got beef with me? You

1821
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 3: got beef? Check Out this stick of beef?

1822
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: Right?

1823
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 3: Oh my who.

1824
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh jesus.

1825
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 3: He didn't even have to put the groceries down, Luke,

1826
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 3: this guy's the best.

1827
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: That dude was like, the best instacart chopper ever?

1828
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 3: Is he wearing?

1829
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: I gotta get these strawberries to Sally? Yeah? The fuck

1830
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 1: out my way?

1831
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 3: Hey, Luke, Oh, one more time for the people.

1832
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: Chin. These are arm punches too. Dude was like, oh,

1833
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm all tough. Hit me again. Okay, hack, What do

1834
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: you think.

1835
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 3: Is in the bag? What is a badass like that

1836
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 3: by Luke Donuts? Yeah, probably toilet paper? All right, hey,

1837
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 3: let's I want to show you the Quarantine MVP. This

1838
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,440
Speaker 3: is my superhero. Check Out this guy in the motorcycle.

1839
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,440
Speaker 3: He bounces a beer can off the sidewalk.

1840
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,799
Speaker 1: Luke, No, no, No, that's like two leader filled with mentos?

1841
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 3: Is it?

1842
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Look closely, Bonk, see.

1843
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 3: The timing on this is incredible. Where's dude perfect? This

1844
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 3: is amazing, Luke. Yeah, this is This is a true

1845
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 3: act of stupid brilliance. Yes, thank you.

1846
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 1: But it's definitely a two leader. I mean, I don't

1847
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: know if it's got mentos in it, but it's definitely

1848
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 1: the two leader.

1849
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 3: All Right, I'm gonna tee up the final segment here, Luke.

1850
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 3: Tip on tip has been a theme on our show.

1851
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 3: You and I. You know, we've touched the fingers to

1852
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 3: make a joke, but you know the reality, Luke, we're

1853
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 3: both consenting heterosexual males. There will not be a time

1854
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand subscribers or not where you and I

1855
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 3: would nakedly touch tips. Right, We're not that kind of men.

1856
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: Nakedly, not nakedly fucking all the clothes in the world.

1857
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: We're not. No.

1858
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, So here's the deal. I want to show you

1859
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 3: how other heterosexual men are teasing the tip to tip revolution.

1860
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 3: You tell me yeay or nay on whether you'd be

1861
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 3: willing to do this with me. Here we go play

1862
01:27:52,200 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 3: the first one. Jay, it's not uh that okay with you?

1863
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,480
Speaker 1: If we didn't have a lighter.

1864
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I pulled off. I'm okay.

1865
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: With lets.

1866
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 3: Let's go to the next one here, Jay, check out

1867
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 3: these these Pittsburgh Penguins players. You lick the tip and

1868
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 3: then you touch it. You're done with that.

1869
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: No, fuck these losers, and fuck the Penguins and their fans.

1870
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: Go caps, see aps, caps caps Caps.

1871
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 3: Let's go to the convenience store here. I'd be down

1872
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 3: with this at any time, Luke, you.

1873
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: Need help, Brian Campbell, Okay.

1874
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 3: All right, I see I thought that was fairly Headero,

1875
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 3: all right, let's go to the next one here. I

1876
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 3: think these are bred.

1877
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: You think it's fairly headed. Row to touch your shit

1878
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 1: like that? Oh no, no touching tips of the tomahawk.

1879
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 3: No, no, just okay, okay, let's go to dessert hair.

1880
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 3: This one rolled the question. We'll probably oh whoa that

1881
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 3: I forgot about that one, Luke. See the hand on

1882
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 3: the cheek is where we're going in the wrong direction here.

1883
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: Also, just hand me your cigarette ship face and I'll

1884
01:28:58,560 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: do this and give it back.

1885
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 3: All right now, dessert, Now we play dessert hair, Luke,

1886
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 3: tell me if this is too far.

1887
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's a chocolate covered.

1888
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 3: Banana, Luke. Don't think it's anything else?

1889
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: Are they? Are they toasting?

1890
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, look, some people get down

1891
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 3: like this. That's fine. I just don't think this is

1892
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 3: our future. And to close, Luke, how about this one?

1893
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 3: Would you be down at least for this? Check out

1894
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 3: these two dicks.

1895
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: That's the one I'd be down with the most.

1896
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 3: You have to do.

1897
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 1: You have to do the fifty thousand subscribers show dressed

1898
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: like this.

1899
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 3: It might be potted. No, that's one hundred thousand dollars requests.

1900
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 3: Come on, I'm putting my career reputation on the line

1901
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 3: for that.

1902
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: Luke. All right, are you are? Is that what you're doing?

1903
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 1: All right?

1904
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 3: You've seen that shit. Let's roll on. Let's end the show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Luke, all right, with that in mind, let's see

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Speaker 1: odds and Ends? BC. What do you got for us

1907
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 1: on odds and Ends?

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Speaker 3: This is somewhat late breaking news. I want to give

1909
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Speaker 3: our condolences to Tony Harrison, you know, the former junior

1910
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 3: Middleway champion, his father and trainer Ali Salaams to a

1911
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 3: COVID case. There just I believe it was yesterday, you know.

1912
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Speaker 3: Shout out prayers and love and thoughts Tony Harrison. Great guy,

1913
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 3: met his dad and trainer many times former fighter himself

1914
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 3: tough to see that also when on ends, Luke, it

1915
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Speaker 3: was a rough week for WWE, from the XFL folding

1916
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 3: going bankrupt to a couple other financial blows that ended

1917
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 3: with mass cuts on the roster. Some people's putting out

1918
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 3: videos crying on social media. Certainly it touched your heart

1919
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,480
Speaker 3: if you're a wrestling fan to see under these circumstances

1920
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Speaker 3: people getting let go. But don't forget this. It's competition

1921
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 3: time between WW and aew Fence and company were stockpiling

1922
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 3: people that they didn't know what to do with just

1923
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 3: to keep them from the enemy. For people like Gallows

1924
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 3: and Anderson and even my guy Zach Ryder, this is

1925
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 3: a dream come true. This is an opportunity to maybe

1926
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 3: go across the street, whether that be AW or New

1927
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 3: Japan and find out how great they can be. Luke,

1928
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 3: WW is great, but you got to understand you got

1929
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 3: to play by their rules. It would be like if

1930
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 3: we did this show for showtime and they're like, I

1931
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 3: know you're the dick tip guy, but I'm sorry you're

1932
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 3: no longer that. Here's your new persona, here's your written lines,

1933
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 3: here's how you have to act. I couldn't live in

1934
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,440
Speaker 3: that society, Luke. Neither can some of these well talented performers.

1935
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 3: Now they're going to get a chance to show what

1936
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 3: they got, Luke, I know you couldn't live like that.

1937
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Speaker 1: No, certainly, Well, we'll see what happens with that. I

1938
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: don't really care in terms of my odds and ends.

1939
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: We missed it last week, but Friday, I believe, was

1940
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Speaker 1: the ten year anniversary of the Strikeforce Nashville brawl on CBS,

1941
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Speaker 1: and I was thinking about this, and I was say,

1942
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Speaker 1: why was that one such an ender of all worlds?

1943
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: Whereas the one we have between Connor and Kabeb seem

1944
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 1: to only suggest that the rematch would do big numbers,

1945
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 1: and there are meaningful differences. It's always worse to be

1946
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 1: the first one to do this versus the second. Back

1947
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 1: ten years ago, mma was kind of an experiment for

1948
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Speaker 1: the big networks. Now it's sort of much more embedded

1949
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Speaker 1: into the mainstream. Three these guys, Connor Kuldibe had a

1950
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: heated rivalry. You weren't all together surprise that there was

1951
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Speaker 1: a something afterwards, whereas this one kind of blew up

1952
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. One was on pay per view, one

1953
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 1: was on TV. I'd also say that people were harder

1954
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Speaker 1: on Strike Force at the time than they are on

1955
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Speaker 1: the UFC. But I guess the good news is, Brian,

1956
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 1: you can have a brawl now with a big audience

1957
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Speaker 1: among MMA fighters and it's only good news.

1958
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean the Connor Habib one had the potential

1959
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Speaker 3: of going into the crowd and that's where it gets bad.

1960
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Speaker 3: But I always thought this was so overplayed in I mean,

1961
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Speaker 3: I worked for CBS now in showtime, so shout out

1962
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Speaker 3: to them. But the viewership they were able to get

1963
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Speaker 3: during that stretch on CBS was huge, and I get

1964
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Speaker 3: Gus Johnson in the moment going, gentlemen, we're on live TV,

1965
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Speaker 3: We're on CBS. But here's the deal. Like fights and

1966
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 3: trash talk and extracurricular fights, it's part of the game.

1967
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 3: It fuels it. Yes, it's different when you're crossing certain

1968
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Speaker 3: levels or you're going into the crowd and all that,

1969
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Speaker 3: but contained within a cage, which they were, somebody wants

1970
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Speaker 3: to sucker punch somebody else kind of fuels the next fight.

1971
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 3: I thought they got a raw deal in that being

1972
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Speaker 3: sort of the see we told you these cage fights

1973
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Speaker 3: you're watching if you're one of the seven million or

1974
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 3: whatever people that turn into CBS that night. You're watching

1975
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 3: it to see two cage fighters fight, the fact that

1976
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 3: their their boys would jump in and like it's it

1977
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:17,759
Speaker 3: was so overblown in my eyes, Luke.

1978
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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, And it was Shields who was supposed to

1979
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: be who fought Hendo that night. That was supposed to

1980
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Speaker 1: be Hendo rocking him up, and in the end Hendo loses.

1981
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Speaker 1: That was when Jake Shields then went to the UFC

1982
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Speaker 1: I think, fought Martin cammeron and then GSP. So not

1983
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Speaker 1: a great night in the history of Strike Force or MMA,

1984
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Speaker 1: but at least now you could take comfort that if

1985
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 1: this happened again, wouldn't really be the end of the world,

1986
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Speaker 1: would it. Okay, Brian, I guess that's it for us.

1987
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Speaker 1: It was a bit of a up and down show,

1988
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Speaker 1: but I'm glad we did it. I'm keeping the train

1989
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Speaker 1: on the tracks and I'm pretty happy with it.

1990
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Speaker 3: In the end, I'm going to counter that and say

1991
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Speaker 3: it was a great show. Your attitude during it was

1992
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Speaker 3: up and down, but the content was fantastic.

1993
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Speaker 1: All right as all is. Give the video a thumbs up.

1994
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1999
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2000
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2001
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2002
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2003
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