WEBVTT - Turning Lessons into Blessings

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<v Speaker 1>Greetings and welcome to woke f with me Danielle Moody.

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<v Speaker 1>The last year of life amidst the coronavirus outbreak has

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<v Speaker 1>been a life changing one for so many people. This

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<v Speaker 1>week on woke f Daily, I held conversations with two

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring women about the impact COVID nineteen has had on

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<v Speaker 1>people's mental health, and I share my own experiences and

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<v Speaker 1>changes from the last year as well. Fridays on woke

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<v Speaker 1>f Daily are feel Good Fridays, in which I center

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<v Speaker 1>conversations about health and well being in all aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>our lives, whether it's physical, mental, spiritual, or otherwise. These

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<v Speaker 1>conversations are valuable, and I use this weekly podcast as

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to share important nuggets from them with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can hear every Feel Good Friday show in

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<v Speaker 1>full right now on my Patreon starting at just five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month at patreon dot com, Slasha app. This Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke with inspirational speaker kimberly Read, author of Optimists

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<v Speaker 1>Always Win, about my own experiences with social media and

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<v Speaker 1>gratitude during this pandemic and how we can use this

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<v Speaker 1>time to turn our lessons into blessings. Gratitude has been

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<v Speaker 1>something that over the past year. Over the ability and

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<v Speaker 1>I say this from a place of privilege, being able

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<v Speaker 1>to work from home during this time is a privilege right.

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<v Speaker 1>Not having to put myself into harm's way in order

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<v Speaker 1>to make a living is a privilege. And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>with this time, with this slowdown, have really been able

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on gratitude and how I will be honest, prepandam.

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<v Speaker 1>When you said was twenty twenty year worst year? No

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<v Speaker 1>it was not. And I can tell you that having

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<v Speaker 1>gone through a divorce, my mother being diagnosed with a

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<v Speaker 1>brain tumor, and like moving out on my own, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty for all intensive purposes should have been my worst year.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I continue to say and offer on woke

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<v Speaker 1>app is that it was the year of vision. It

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<v Speaker 1>was an eye opening year for me because what I

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<v Speaker 1>realized is that the hamster wheel that I had been

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<v Speaker 1>living on one that was fueled with measuring myself against

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<v Speaker 1>other people, what they had, what I wasn't doing, how

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to do more, be more, produce more right,

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<v Speaker 1>that my value was in my productivity rather than my personhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that through the last year, really being grateful and

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<v Speaker 1>instead of asking the question out into the universe of

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<v Speaker 1>why is this happening to me? I have shifted and

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a powerful shift in my own life

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<v Speaker 1>of asking instead what is this trying to teach me?

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<v Speaker 1>What is this trying to teach me? Because you go

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<v Speaker 1>from a place of woe is me into a place

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<v Speaker 1>of student right into a place of being open because

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<v Speaker 1>you are available to receive the lessons that are being

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<v Speaker 1>presented to you. And I realized that that could only

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<v Speaker 1>have come from removing the blockage of being ungrateful for

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<v Speaker 1>the life that I was living, for the opportunities that

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<v Speaker 1>I have been given, but I couldn't see it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that a large part of that, Kimberly, is

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<v Speaker 1>because we spend so much of our lives on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's so much of our lives, for better or

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<v Speaker 1>for worse, regardless of our age, whether you're a tween,

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<v Speaker 1>a teen, you know, or in your sixties or seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>people are on social media, and social media has drained us,

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<v Speaker 1>I think in many ways of gratitude. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>manage that? How do you offer both wanting to feel connected? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty of the connection that social media allows us

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<v Speaker 1>to have but how it also pains us of the

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<v Speaker 1>positive energy and the optimism because they're so much bad

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<v Speaker 1>that is out there. I love what you have just described. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking for a pen because you really know that,

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle in your story, right, I've only heard a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of that, but but I can tell your pivot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>from the inside out right. I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>with social media in a minute, But you said something

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we have to kind of highlight for

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners here because I read a statistic in USA

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<v Speaker 1>today doing some research for a client in writing a section.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people are more optimistic now than ever. Most people

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<v Speaker 1>seventy percent believe that the worst is behind us. That's

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<v Speaker 1>seventy percent right USA today. So there's there's still thirty

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<v Speaker 1>percent though, which is still a large number that believed

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite of that. And one of the things when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about social media is that there are no

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<v Speaker 1>greater deceivers than comfort and easy hmm okay, And the

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<v Speaker 1>lessons to your point that you said so eloquently are

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<v Speaker 1>our greatest blessings. There's power in our survival right as

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<v Speaker 1>we all have a rock bottom right, pain changes who

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<v Speaker 1>we are and it has a purpose we know that. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>to your point, you said you're going to take the

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<v Speaker 1>lessons and turn them into blessings. We love that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We do that because our future cells deserve more, no

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<v Speaker 1>question about it. Right. Because we have to stop delaying

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<v Speaker 1>our joy. We do that. We do that a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>right because to your point about social media, the impact

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<v Speaker 1>of that, we delay our joy because we feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we're not good enough because we see this person person

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<v Speaker 1>and then we look inward and we're not there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not worthy, we're not right. And we have to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that people often project their hurt yea, who's their

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<v Speaker 1>self esteem? That's where those filters, that's where all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff comes from. Right, And so you always have to

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<v Speaker 1>remember that you're bigger than the situation that you're facing.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the things that I really got when

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<v Speaker 1>you said about this, you know you ask yourself why me?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I will tell you I kept saying to myself

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<v Speaker 1>when the lights were off of my soul, life was dark,

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<v Speaker 1>my mother and me, everything I remember like it was yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get terry I think about it is that

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<v Speaker 1>I asked myself, when will I be this woman who

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<v Speaker 1>went through life at one hundred and twenty miles per

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<v Speaker 1>hour in the snow and live life with zest again.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is all this happening to me? Right? I felt

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<v Speaker 1>this like indescribable pain, like I you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know how to walk again? Right, And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that some people, most people have experienced experienced that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, or if it felt like life defeated

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<v Speaker 1>you and the pain that held you at its tightest grip,

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<v Speaker 1>right far longer than you could have imagined. Right. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's the here's the thing about resilience and what I

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<v Speaker 1>also talk about in the book, Everyone's season is different.

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<v Speaker 1>You described your season to be my sson was different. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It is true that people with resilience tend to have

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<v Speaker 1>a higher tolerance for a kind of emotional distress that

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<v Speaker 1>we go through, right generally that that comes from just

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<v Speaker 1>difficult times of valleys in our life, but the more resilient.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why it's important that you know when we

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<v Speaker 1>walk through the valleys, when we go through tough times

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives, that we that we have that stituitiveness

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<v Speaker 1>now that we all of us survive, right, Because the

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<v Speaker 1>better you are able to tolerate the feelings of the

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<v Speaker 1>dress of scadness, of pain that kind of go hand

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<v Speaker 1>in hand with adversity, and find a way to rebound

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<v Speaker 1>from those setbacks. That's power. Yeah, that truly is that's power.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't talked enough about the mental health impact of

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<v Speaker 1>this pandemic. It has not been easy to endure the

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<v Speaker 1>last year of changes, restrictions, and pressure from so many

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<v Speaker 1>different places. My friend, freelance journalist Danielle Campamore bravely shared

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<v Speaker 1>her experiences in recovery for an eating disorder and being

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<v Speaker 1>triggered into a relapse by this long turbulent year. I

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<v Speaker 1>had invited Danielle on to discuss toxic masculinity as it

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<v Speaker 1>relates to the racist violence around the country, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can hear that full conversation now on patreon dot com

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<v Speaker 1>slash wokeaf But I think it's important that everyone here's

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle courageously share her journey with an eating disorder relapse

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<v Speaker 1>and her continued recovery, especially if you or someone you

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<v Speaker 1>know is going through the same thing. Please share this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation and spread the word with your loved ones that

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<v Speaker 1>help is out there and recovery is possible. And listen

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<v Speaker 1>in to hear how you can support those in your

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<v Speaker 1>life who might be struggling. As we're getting ready to

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to call it moving into post pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>because we still have a pandemic, but how we are

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<v Speaker 1>living in the midst of this pandemic now is changing

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<v Speaker 1>because of vaccination. But a lot has happened over the

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<v Speaker 1>past year. And one of the pieces that you wrote

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<v Speaker 1>for insider dot com was about eating disorders and relapsing

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<v Speaker 1>during this time of quarantine. And you know, there has

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<v Speaker 1>been so much pressure on people to either you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you should come out of quarantine with a new hobby,

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<v Speaker 1>a new job, a new project, a new business, a

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<v Speaker 1>new body, all of these things. And it was an

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<v Speaker 1>added pressure on just trying to survive living in the

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<v Speaker 1>midst of a health pandemic and multiple uprisings and all

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<v Speaker 1>of this angst. Right And you know, for me, the

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<v Speaker 1>folks that listen to me know that I have been

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<v Speaker 1>on my own personal journey over the past year, and

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<v Speaker 1>it has been in and around just my mental health

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<v Speaker 1>and how that was showing up with my weight and overeating.

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<v Speaker 1>And this time, this privileged time that I had was

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to slow down, focus on my health and

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<v Speaker 1>well being and shed like so much, so much baggage,

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<v Speaker 1>so much weight, so much trauma over the past year.

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<v Speaker 1>After I read your piece, I was thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that was my way of coping. But the

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<v Speaker 1>way in which like social media through memes and videos

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<v Speaker 1>have pressured people into something is wrong with you if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not using this time when for some people just

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<v Speaker 1>curling up on the cow is their useful time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So talk to us about the ways in which you're

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<v Speaker 1>eating disorder presented itself, but in general, how this moment

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<v Speaker 1>has really affected folks that do suffer and live with ED. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start and preface it by saying that in this

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<v Speaker 1>country we have a very large misunderstanding of eating disorders

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<v Speaker 1>and why they present themselves. It is not about vanity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about making it to a certain size, although

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<v Speaker 1>for some people it is. Mostly it's a trauma response

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<v Speaker 1>and an attempt to try and control one aspect of

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<v Speaker 1>your life when other aspects are outside of your control.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how mine presented itself, probably around twelve years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in an abusive household. My father was

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<v Speaker 1>physically abusive, and so I turned to eating disorder to

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<v Speaker 1>try and have something that I can control. It was

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<v Speaker 1>also response to believing a lot of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>my father told me that I wasn't worthy, that I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't good enough, and so you start to think that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not worthy of nourishment as well. So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different factors that play into it. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest trigger for my eating disorder is when things

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<v Speaker 1>get out of control. I need something that I can control,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is food and how I put food into

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<v Speaker 1>my body and how I take that food out of

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<v Speaker 1>my body. And so when the pandemic hit, my partner

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<v Speaker 1>is an essential worker at Amazon, he was working for

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hours shifts. They weren't providing adequate protection, they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>giving anyone paid time off. We were very scared that

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to bring the literal plague into our

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<v Speaker 1>home and that our two children might get sick. On

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<v Speaker 1>top of that, there was at home e learning for

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<v Speaker 1>my then five year old, now six year old. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a one year old now two year old, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I was also working from home. Everything felt chaotic.

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<v Speaker 1>I was also isolated from my friends and isolated from

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<v Speaker 1>my family, which isolation definitely makes it easier for you

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<v Speaker 1>to engage in disordered eating because no one really can

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention, no one can really spot the signs. And

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<v Speaker 1>I relapsed very quickly, and I'm still dealing with the

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<v Speaker 1>aftermath of that. I'm not in recovery right now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be. But so all of these factors, from

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<v Speaker 1>isolation to the loss of control, additional stress, anxiety, depression,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things really puts people who are in

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<v Speaker 1>recovery or at risk for developing disordered eating habits at

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<v Speaker 1>a higher risk. And we've seen that play out. There's

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<v Speaker 1>been studies that shown that eating disorders have increased during

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic and are likely to increase once, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the nation starts to open up again and people finally

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they can try and get help. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>a worry that mental health experts will become overwhelmed and

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<v Speaker 1>unable to actually provide adequate care to those people who

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<v Speaker 1>are going to need help. And so it was very sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very difficult, I think, to see people joking

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<v Speaker 1>about the pants like COVID fifteen or gaining ebomic weights,

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<v Speaker 1>because for a lot of people it's far more than

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<v Speaker 1>a joke. And make no mistake, an eating disorder is

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<v Speaker 1>the deadliest mental health issue out there. More people die

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<v Speaker 1>from eating disorders than any other mental health problem, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's life or death for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>And that doesn't elude me also that it is a

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<v Speaker 1>severe health issue. And it just goes back to our

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<v Speaker 1>inability to talk about weight, weight gain, weight law different

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<v Speaker 1>types of bodies. When we're seeing now fat phobia playing

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<v Speaker 1>out in people gaining weights. People would look at me

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<v Speaker 1>and assume that I'm healthy. I am not healthy, but

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<v Speaker 1>just because at a certain weight, they assume that I am.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, it's a lot of misconceptions. It's baked into

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<v Speaker 1>the fabric of this society that's so obsessed with women

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<v Speaker 1>or female presenting bodies, and it's exhausting. It really is

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<v Speaker 1>just another source of total exhaustion. What do you recommend,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what are what have you been doing? And

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<v Speaker 1>what do you recommend that people do that are struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that, you know from my therapist when online.

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<v Speaker 1>She actually just recently got rid of both of her offices.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, this is just kind of gonna be the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't foresee me sitting down across from anybody, you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>in a closed space, like there's just no reason we've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing fine on FaceTime. UM. I know that there

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<v Speaker 1>are lots of virtual you know, UM therapy groups. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>but what what what can people do who who are

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<v Speaker 1>in the midst of struggle, who are not at the

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<v Speaker 1>recovery stage but are very aware of what is happening

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<v Speaker 1>and want to do something but don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>do right. I think that's the key point, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful that you pointed it out. Is first of just

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<v Speaker 1>doing the work to be aware of it. Sometimes even

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<v Speaker 1>that step is very difficult, But if you are at

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<v Speaker 1>that step and you are aware and want to try

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<v Speaker 1>and make it steps to get into recovery. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a very key component, at least for myself as being

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<v Speaker 1>honest with the people around me and be honest with

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<v Speaker 1>my partner and asking him to hold me accountable. It

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<v Speaker 1>means being honest with my friends in the group chat

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<v Speaker 1>and saying, hey, you know, I haven't had any food

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<v Speaker 1>and X number of days, or I've been purging X

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<v Speaker 1>number of days. I just need to talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>openly and giving and empowering your support system to to

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<v Speaker 1>be there for you and to hold you accountable. This

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<v Speaker 1>can be difficult. A lot of times people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to speak about eating disorders in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't triggering. Buys and ask that people who are in

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<v Speaker 1>that support support system and that's a support space, to

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<v Speaker 1>do some research on how you can best approach someone

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<v Speaker 1>or talk to them about it, because discussing their weight,

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<v Speaker 1>discussing how they look, that ain't it. That won't help. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that that's a big step. Another one

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<v Speaker 1>is go online. There are plenty of mental health care

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<v Speaker 1>professionals who are doing visits, you know, virtually. There is

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<v Speaker 1>even tech support groups, any of those things where you

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<v Speaker 1>can just text somebody, you know. It's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it is just talking and being willing to be vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>about this specific part of your health and wellness. I

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<v Speaker 1>think is a very big one. And then the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>part for me, but when I think is pivotal is

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<v Speaker 1>to also give yourself some grace and everything that we do,

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<v Speaker 1>especially now, but when it comes to this, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>so much shame when I relapsed. I'd worked so hard

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<v Speaker 1>to have gotten to that place of recovery, and that

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<v Speaker 1>place was imperfect, but it took a lot of work,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was very hard on myself. I still am,

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<v Speaker 1>and that all that does is just feed that issue.

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<v Speaker 1>It just makes it that much more harder to get

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<v Speaker 1>back on that road to recovery. So give yourself grace,

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<v Speaker 1>give yourself love. It's okay if you aren't where you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be. It's okay if you took some steps backwards,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're still here and you're still ending. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that I have to tell myself every day, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would encourage people to tell themselves that too. It's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't failed, You're You're just still walking and moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>As I often say, the problems that existed before COVID

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen were only exacerbated by the outbreak of this global

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<v Speaker 1>health pandemic, and that includes fat phobia, which was already

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<v Speaker 1>rampant in our society, especially with the expectations placed on

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<v Speaker 1>women from a very young age. There is no vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>all Americans, know that there are methods and techniques to

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