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Speaker 1: make yourself a healthy, yummy sandwich? Hey everyone, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in the world.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to each and every single one of you that

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Speaker 1: you know that I love interviewing experts, thought leaders, influences

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Speaker 1: And today talking about a theme that is so close

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Speaker 1: It's a conversation about what do you want from your life?

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Speaker 1: When you tell everyone emphatically, anyone can become a morning person,

435
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Speaker 1: tell us what are the side that someone's a morning person?

436
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: And then what are the steps we can take to

437
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Speaker 1: become one. If we're sitting here going, Liz, I'm really

438
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Speaker 1: not a morning person. Yes, I hear you, and I'm

439
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Speaker 1: so glad you brought this up because you are exactly right.

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Speaker 1: I am also an early riser. You know this about me,

441
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Speaker 1: but I wake up at five seventeen. But this book

442
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Speaker 1: is not about like you need to be waking up

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Speaker 1: at five seventeen. There is no judgment whatsoever if you

444
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Speaker 1: are in the camp of I actually want to wake

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Speaker 1: up at eight am, and that works for me. I'm

446
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Speaker 1: I am with you. My goal is to help you

447
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Speaker 1: make the most of the time you spend after you

448
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Speaker 1: get out of bed, to set yourself up for the

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Speaker 1: best day possible, and to be honest, Jay, And what

450
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Speaker 1: I hear a lot from people is they actually wish

451
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Speaker 1: they could wake up a little earlier. But like your friends,

452
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: they're night owls and it's just not in their nature.

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Speaker 1: So yea. So two quick things, as I share in

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Speaker 1: the book, I was not a morning person. I very

455
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Speaker 1: much love to sleep in, especially as a teenager. There

456
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Speaker 1: is a lot of signs that suggests that we have

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Speaker 1: a chronotype. So you might be more predisposed to enjoy

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Speaker 1: popping out of bed in the morning or to staying

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Speaker 1: up late at night. So early birds night owls. Some

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00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: people get their rush of energy in the middle of

461
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Speaker 1: the day. The cool thing is it's constantly changing over time,

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Speaker 1: So even if a couple of years ago that's how

463
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Speaker 1: you are, or you are there right now, it might

464
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Speaker 1: change just naturally, which is I think interesting. I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's partially what happened to me. But secondly, there

466
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Speaker 1: are a lot of things you can do if you

467
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Speaker 1: do want to wake up earlier, to set yourself up

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Speaker 1: the night before, and also like what you do when

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Speaker 1: you get out of bed, exposing yourself to light making

470
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Speaker 1: Like this is what the book really breaks down. If

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Speaker 1: that is your goal to wake up earlier, and you

472
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Speaker 1: think you would be healthier and happier for it, this

473
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Speaker 1: book can help you do that. It really is possible.

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Speaker 1: I think also when people think about becoming a morning person,

475
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Speaker 1: they think they have to sleep less, right, And that's

476
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Speaker 1: not the thing. That you can still sleep as much

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Speaker 1: as you want. You're just going to try and sleep

478
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Speaker 1: earlier so that you can still have that amount of sleep.

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Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of people struggle with

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Speaker 1: the idea of being a morning person. So I feel

481
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Speaker 1: like I've always been a morning person, but I'm also

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Speaker 1: someone who really appreciates sleep. Sleep even though people are like, oh, Jay,

483
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Speaker 1: but you're a monk, can you wake up? And I'm like, yeah,

484
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Speaker 1: but I love sleep. And sometimes I wish I wasn't

485
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Speaker 1: a morning person because sometimes I'm like, I wish I

486
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Speaker 1: could wake up past seven am, Like I can never

487
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Speaker 1: wake up past seven am, and so I wake up

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Speaker 1: naturally I haven't used an alarm clock for a very

489
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Speaker 1: long time, and my body will wake me up, usually

490
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Speaker 1: between eight hours to eight hours fifteen minutes of sleep,

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Speaker 1: and I'll naturally wake up. When you talk about people

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Speaker 1: becoming a morning person, what are some of the things

493
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Speaker 1: that we need to stop doing in order to help

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Speaker 1: us become morning people? Is there some of the techniques

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Speaker 1: and tools you can share with us. Absolutely, so, you're

496
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Speaker 1: exactly right. As much as you wish or want to

497
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Speaker 1: become a morning person, it's not just like you wake

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Speaker 1: up and oh here I am morning person. So for starters,

499
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Speaker 1: let's talk about the night before, which I know is

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Speaker 1: a little bit counterintuitive in a book about mornings, but

501
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Speaker 1: I devote a couple of chapters to it. First of all,

502
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Speaker 1: you're exactly right. It's important to know how much sleep

503
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Speaker 1: you need, and that can help you back into what

504
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Speaker 1: time you need to go to bed. I know everybody

505
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Speaker 1: is sick of hearing this, but the truth is, there's

506
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Speaker 1: so much science about exposing yourself to blue light, which

507
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Speaker 1: we get from our devices in the evening. It is

508
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Speaker 1: going to amp up your melotonin production, which makes it

509
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Speaker 1: harder to fall asleep and harder to stay asleep. So

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Speaker 1: right there, if you want to have an awesome morning tomorrow,

511
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Speaker 1: you want to have a good night of sleep, So like,

512
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Speaker 1: do yourself a favor, pick up a paper book or

513
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Speaker 1: stop scrolling on your phone. You know, ideally at least

514
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Speaker 1: an hour before you hit the sack. I also talked

515
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Speaker 1: in the book about sleep rituals. I interviewed all sorts

516
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Speaker 1: of sleep experts and looked at all the latest and

517
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Speaker 1: greatest research on this. And there's simple things you can do,

518
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Speaker 1: such as making your room I'm a little bit cooler

519
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: that helps you sleep more soundly. Personally, I like to

520
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Speaker 1: take a shower before I go to bed, just I

521
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: have this vision that it's like rinsing the good in

522
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Speaker 1: bed energy off me and kind of creating a clean

523
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Speaker 1: slate for me to get all the restoration that my

524
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Speaker 1: night of sleep has in store for me. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about alarm clocks for a second too, So I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you know this because you're also super into sleep. The

527
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Speaker 1: later phases of our sleep cycle are called rem sleep,

528
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Speaker 1: and that's like where the magic happens and all the

529
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Speaker 1: restoration happens. So if you're the type of person who

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Speaker 1: snoozes your alarm button for like an hour or even

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Speaker 1: just a time or two, you're actually disrupting that really powerful,

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Speaker 1: sacred time of sleep. So I am really encouraging folks

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Speaker 1: to think hard about what time do you have to

534
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Speaker 1: get up, Like what's the latest you can get up

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Speaker 1: and set your alarm for that, like that is your

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Speaker 1: sleep spot and sweet spot, and then back into what

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Speaker 1: time you need to go to bed. Those are just

538
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: a few examples, but they will all help a lot.

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Speaker 1: They will help tremendously. I love that that's such a

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Speaker 1: great piece of advice because often we hear like, oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: set your arm half an hour before your ideal time.

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Speaker 1: And actually, what you just said is we're disrupting our

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Speaker 1: own sleep. Yes, And so I couldn't agree with you more.

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Speaker 1: I think it's unhealthy to set up too many alarms,

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Speaker 1: and also the repetition. What we don't realize is we're

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Speaker 1: creating a pattern where we don't listen to our alarm.

547
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: And so now that alarm is becoming less and less

548
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Speaker 1: useful because you're so used to just suppressing the snooze button,

549
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Speaker 1: and so it's losing its impact because you reject it.

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Speaker 1: It's like someone giving you advice and every time they

551
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Speaker 1: give you advice, you're like, Nope, don't want it, Nope,

552
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: don't want it. No, don't. That person's advice becomes less

553
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: and less useful over time. So now an alarm becomes

554
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: less and less meaningful. Whereas if it only rings once,

555
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: and it rings at the time when you know you

556
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: want to be up, you're going to respond hopefully yes.

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Speaker 1: And actually a note on alarm sounds, because rings tend

558
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: to be what we choose, or like that angry bleeping sound.

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00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: And so one other tip or suggestion for folks who

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00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: want to get up earlier just have a more graceful

561
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: entry into their day. Pick a sound that you like

562
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Speaker 1: that makes you happy. I use the chimes on my iPhone,

563
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: but it could be anything. It could be a song

564
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: you love. Start your day with something that makes you happy.

565
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Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be like a loud, annoying Really,

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Speaker 1: what I love about this book list is that it's

567
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Speaker 1: so practical, and I want everyone to see that because

568
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: often when we hear about books on health and wellness,

569
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Speaker 1: there's good ideas and maybe a couple of good thoughts

570
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Speaker 1: and pointers. But Liz's book is full of exercises and

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Speaker 1: takeaways and I really appreciate that when I see that

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Speaker 1: in a book list, because I just find that sometimes

573
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Speaker 1: we're even like, oh, I've heard that idea before. Oh

574
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: I know that, but that's never been the issue. Yeah,

575
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: we know we need to sleep earlier and wake up earlier.

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Speaker 1: We know that we need to put our phones down right,

577
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Speaker 1: but we need activities and exercises to actually help us

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Speaker 1: do that. And I'm really glad that you put some in.

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Speaker 1: Are there any favorite activities or size they're in the

580
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Speaker 1: book that you're just like this one really worked for me,

581
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: or this one really worked for a friend. Could you

582
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Speaker 1: share one with us? The chapter about learning what your

583
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: personal core values are? That one is near and dear

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Speaker 1: to my heart. I think it's sets this book apart

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Speaker 1: from other publications or books that have dabbled in mornings

586
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Speaker 1: because to your point when we first started this conversation,

587
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Speaker 1: my goal is not to get you up at five

588
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: seventeen am like I do. My goal is to make

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Speaker 1: your morning more magical. And what I learned is that

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Speaker 1: when you are really clear on what your values are

591
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Speaker 1: and what fills you up and lights you up, and

592
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Speaker 1: then when you can actually take little microactions nodding toward

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Speaker 1: them every single morning. You are just prepared in ways

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Speaker 1: you cannot even imagine to be a better parent, employee, pet, parent, like, sister, brother, friend,

595
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: all the things. So there's one exercise in that core

596
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Speaker 1: values chapter. I mean, I take you through several activities

597
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Speaker 1: to sort of hone in and on what they are

598
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Speaker 1: for you. But the one I think is simplest and

599
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Speaker 1: fastest you could even open up your phone right now

600
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: or your computer right now and do it without having

601
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: to put pen to paper is to take a calendar

602
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Speaker 1: inventory and look at where you're spending your time. How

603
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Speaker 1: many hours a day are you in meetings? How much

604
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: time are you spending having lunch? Are you working out?

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00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: Like get clear on that and that will help you

606
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: hone in on like one, what are the things that

607
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: you enjoy? And maybe you love those meetings, which is great.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that means collaboration and teamwork or one of your

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Speaker 1: core values. But this is also going to help you

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00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: find where you have some room for improvement, because maybe

611
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Speaker 1: lunch isn't on your calendar, And what are you going

612
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: to do for yourself today? You know, do you need

613
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Speaker 1: time to take a walk or to journal during your

614
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Speaker 1: lunch break. Do you need time to make yourself a healthy,

615
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: yummy sandwich. So anyway, that's one exercise that can help

616
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: you get clear about what your personal core values are.

617
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Speaker 1: And then the rest of the book is really like

618
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: choose your own adventure, or you could read the whole

619
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Speaker 1: thing and get ideas. But say, fitness or meditation, which

620
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: I know is so integral in your life, are things

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Speaker 1: that you want to add to your morning and they

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00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: align with your core values, then there's advice for how

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Speaker 1: to actually bring those to life every morning. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: love that. I want to ask you this because I

625
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: get asked this a lot, and I'm always conscious of

626
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: it when I'm answering the question. And now I get

627
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: to ask you to someone who's actually dealing with this.

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Speaker 1: So you're a mother, you're an editor in chief, your wife,

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Speaker 1: you play a lot of roles in your own life.

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Speaker 1: And I find that, in my opinion, mothers, especially with

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Speaker 1: young children, have the hardest mornings. I look at my mother,

632
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Speaker 1: and that's where I remember it from. My mom used

633
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Speaker 1: to wake us up, get a stress for school, me

634
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Speaker 1: and my younger sister. She'd make our breakfast, she'd make

635
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Speaker 1: our lunch, she'd then drop us to school, and she

636
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Speaker 1: was an independent financial advisor at the same time, so

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Speaker 1: she was also had her own mini company that she

638
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: was setting up, so my mum was and then she'd

639
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: pick us up from school, make us dinner, and help

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Speaker 1: us with our homework. So I'd lived in a house

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Speaker 1: with a superpower powerhouse mom that I love in the door,

642
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: and I just saw now when I think about them,

643
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Speaker 1: like how does anyone do all of that? Like how

644
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Speaker 1: is that even possible? And today life's supposedly become easier

645
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: and we have more support and we have more help

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00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: here and there, or we have tools in technology. But

647
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Speaker 1: as a mother, as a experienced professional, as a successful professional,

648
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Speaker 1: how are you getting through your morning? How are you

649
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Speaker 1: still waking up at five seventeen? Or how did you

650
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: manage it when your kids were slightly younger? I want

651
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: to hear about the messiness, yeah, because I think often

652
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: mothers also are the ones that end up judging themselves

653
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: the most about not being there for their kids and

654
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Speaker 1: then not feeling like they can perform, and then feeling

655
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Speaker 1: like all the responsibilities on them too. So glad you

656
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Speaker 1: asked about the messiness because I also want to be

657
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: very clear that although I've got a good thing going

658
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: with my mornings, that does not mean that every morning

659
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: goes as I envisioned that it would without you know,

660
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: a little tornado here, a little disasters filled milk there.

661
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: I'm also kind of chuckling because here we are, it's fall.

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00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: My kids just started the school year again, which is awesome.

663
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: So all three of them murdered. They are yes. So

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Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time, on Monday,

665
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: the school bus, you know, it pulls up at eight

666
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: o four am, and I'm like, oh this, I have

667
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: to like get everything together, Like this is no joke

668
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: because for a long time they were doing school from home.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if I went to my first work

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00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: meeting wearing leggings, so be it. So I knew I

671
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: was going into my office. I had some reasons to

672
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: be there, so I commute from Brooklyn to Manhattan. So honestly, Jay,

673
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: it was like I had to put all the stuff

674
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: I talk about in Own Your Morning into practice, like

675
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: practice what you preach, Liz, And for that meant doing

676
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: a lot of prep the night before, pulling out what

677
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: my outfit was going to be, having my children do

678
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: the same, having them packed their backpacks. I made the

679
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: lunches the night before, because oh, it's just like one

680
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: more thing, and everybody has opinions, you know, they don't

681
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: want the whatever they with my kids, they're very picky

682
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: jelly sandwiches that I can't believe I'm admitting that. But

683
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: despite it all, despite it all, it was like a

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00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: morning of madness. And I did get them to the bus.

685
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Everybody got to school, they had lunches in their backpacks.

686
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: But when I got to my desk, my hair was

687
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: still wet, like I was slightly disheveled and frazzled, and

688
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: I did not feel like I wanted to that morning.

689
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: And that's okay too. I knew in that instant if

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Speaker 1: I hadn't done the stuff the night before, if I

691
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: hadn't been trying all the tips and tools that I

692
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: write about in the book, this morning would have been like,

693
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, if it was a seven on a scale

694
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: from one to ten, it probably would have been a

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00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: two or three. And that's no fun. And I have

696
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: a job to do that. I love to help women

697
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: live their healthiest, happiest lives, and I have to like

698
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: show up and be ready for that. So my mornings

699
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: are not perfect. I just posted on my Instagram recently

700
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: a reel that was sort of like Instagram versus reality,

701
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: Like you know, me like sipping my coffee, and the

702
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: reality version is like my giant Bernese Mountain dog puppy

703
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: is like tumbles in and knocks it over and I

704
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: have to clean it up so I get it where

705
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: we all that's real life like that that's going to

706
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: happen to each and every one of us. How do

707
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: you make and prioritize time for yourself You're leading a

708
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: team with the kids, a company, Like, how do you

709
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: actually even prioritize and make space for that time. I

710
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Speaker 1: know you woke up at five seventeen as much as

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Speaker 1: you can, which is incredible, But how do you make

712
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: sure that that's a priority when you are serving so

713
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: many other people? Yes, it goes back to the heart

714
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: of this, which is mornings are the only time I

715
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: can can really control and to have space to fill

716
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: myself up and to take time for myself. And I

717
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: think it's a lot like what you hear on airplanes

718
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: about how you have to put on your own oxygen

719
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: masks before you can help the person next to you.

720
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: I one thousand percent believe that is true. It's sort

721
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: of counterintuitive, like, wait, what, I'm going to leave the

722
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Speaker 1: apartment and go to the gym and do this Liz thing.

723
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Speaker 1: I'm going to take the time to journal for ten

724
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: or fifteen minutes. I'm going to do all this Liz

725
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: stuff when I have like life and career and people

726
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: pulling on me in every direction. But the reality is,

727
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: once you start doing that, you very quickly see the

728
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: benefits and that you are able to give so much

729
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: more to everybody else and everything else you do when

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Speaker 1: you've you've stopped and filled up your own your own

731
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: tea cup first. Yeah, yeah, I remember. I used to

732
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: just keep giving and going and giving and going. And

733
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Speaker 1: then I asked myself this question, do I want to

734
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: give people my best or do I want to give

735
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: them my leftovers? And I realized I was just giving

736
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: people my leftovers. Yeah, but these were people that I love.

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00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: You don't give the people that you love you leftovers.

738
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Speaker 1: And that's when I started realizing that self preservation was

739
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: so important, and my morning was the most important time

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00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: to preserve because it was the only time that was

741
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: truly sacred in mine and I could carve out, and

742
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Speaker 1: I found that even recently this week, I've been thankful

743
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: enough to have a beautiful morning routine. It's almost back

744
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 1: into flow again. Yes, and I'm feeling all the benefits

745
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: of it. And I'm prioritizing going to bed earlier, saying

746
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: no in the evening, and there's parts of me that

747
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: want to go out and do this thing, and I

748
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: have to keep pulling back what happens. See, here's the challenge.

749
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: When we talk about morning routines, A lot of people think, oh, yeah,

750
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: they must wake up every day. At the same time,

751
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: like we talked about the messiness, how do you get

752
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: back on track? Yeah, because I feel like we all

753
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: get on track, maybe for three days, maybe we even

754
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: do the twenty one days, and it's meant to be

755
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: a habit, it was, say forever, but then we fall off.

756
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: I get on and fall off all the time too.

757
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: How do you get back on once you fall in off?

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Speaker 1: I'm very glad you brought this up. This reminds me

759
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: of one of my favorite quotes, which full disclosure, I

760
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: don't know who said it or where it came from,

761
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: but it's really stuck with me over time. And the

762
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: quote is, let's make better mistakes tomorrow. That was like

763
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: my mantra on Monday, as I arrived at work with

764
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: slightly damp hair, was like, Okay, okay, we're gonna learn

765
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: from this, Liz. But I too get off track, or

766
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: I have something happened in the evening and it means

767
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: I can't wake up at the hour I want to.

768
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm always looking for reasons to reset, and the beautiful

769
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: thing is it doesn't have to be a huge life

770
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: transition like starting a new job or moving into a

771
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: new home, or you know, a change in relationship status,

772
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: though those are all awesome reasons to have a reset.

773
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: It could be as simple as the changing of seasons.

774
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: But also, Jay, I think it could be as simple

775
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: as like it's a new week or it's a new

776
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: day tomorrow. You don't have to wait for January first,

777
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: or the changing of the season or a huge massive

778
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: shift in your life. You have the power to choose

779
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: that tomorrow is going to be better and different. And

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Speaker 1: I would recommend embracing those moments of like, oh, that

781
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: morning did not go like I wanted it to, or

782
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: I stayed up way too late last night, nothing went

783
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: like I like I hoped it would have a moment

784
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: and reflect on that, like sit with that, and now

785
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: now you get to do something about it, and you

786
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: get to make tomorrow better. Yeah. I love that. I

787
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: think what you're saying so true that judgment and guilt

788
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: don't get you anywhere. When I when I judge myself

789
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: for I guilt myself because this has been such a

790
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: bad week. I'm now just creating more guilt and creating

791
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: more judgment, and then now I'm feeding worse. Now I

792
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: don't feel like getting up tomorrow. It's it's like a

793
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: death spiral. So you're just going to get its cycle

794
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: and it just keeps going. And so I find that

795
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: actually me saying, yeah, I gave myself a week off

796
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: last week, but tomorrow is going to be different. It's

797
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: such a healthier way to move and make progress. One

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00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: of the things I think I love that you talk

799
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: about in this book is power breakfasts. I love talking

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00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: about practical things to actually do eat in the morning.

801
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear the signs about it. I struggled

802
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: for a long time with bloating in the morning, and

803
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: so for a lot of time I would wake up

804
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: and I'd eat really well at night, I don't eat late.

805
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: I consider myself to have a really good diet, but

806
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: I think over time I haven't necessarily been mindful, and

807
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: so things have happened. But I remember waking up feeling bloated.

808
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: I remember waking up feeling no matter what I ate

809
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: in the morning, I would end up feeling, you know,

810
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: just not good. And then finally, and the very recently,

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00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: the two things that solved it. It was celery juice

812
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: and cheer seed pudding. Cool. So cheer seeds in the

813
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: morning and celery juice has transformed my life. I feel

814
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: the celery juice is almost like a cleansing. I feel

815
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: completely clean and internally and fresh. And then the chees

816
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: seat pudding is really grounding. And so to me, that's

817
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: really worked for me. I wanted to hear what you've

818
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: found through the signs of breakfast because I think so

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00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: many people skip breakfast or they grab a bagel on

820
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: the way, or they're eating on you know. I mean,

821
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: we're not commuting anymore, but I think breakfast is an

822
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: untalked about meal or unheard of nowadays. Yes, I love

823
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: the breakfast chapter in the book, and I love actually

824
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: the morning Magic essay that was penned by this woman,

825
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: Kate Merker, who oversees food for Women's Health. There's a

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Speaker 1: morning Magic essay and every single chapter but Kate talks

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Speaker 1: about the ritual of making toast for her family and

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Speaker 1: her kids, and she talks about how it fills them up,

829
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: the smell of it, the ritual of it. They put

830
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: cilantro on it. Sometimes it's with avocado. It can be

831
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: all these different things. And to me, what's so beautiful

832
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: about that story and about your chia pudding is that

833
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: it's going to look different for every single one of us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's why I asked, because I was like, I don't

835
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: think everyone's EASi no. And I get asked this a

836
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: lot as the editor of Women's Health, like oh, do

837
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: you intermittent fast or do you skip breakfast? And should

838
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: should I be eating before my workout or right afterward?

839
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: And Jay, there's like there's a study for everything, and

840
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: what it really comes down to is what works for you.

841
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: And you felt ikey in the morning, you felt off,

842
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: and so you probably tried all sorts of different things,

843
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: and that's what you have to do. You have to experiment.

844
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: I will never say to somebody, yeah, you should do

845
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: your workout fast in a fasted state, which, yes, there

846
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: is science that suggests you'll go into the fat burning

847
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: zone more quickly if you do sweat without eating first. However,

848
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: if you feel weak or you can't give one hundred

849
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: percent in your workout because you didn't put any calories

850
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: in your body, then who cares what that research study said.

851
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: It's not going to make a difference. But maybe you're

852
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: like me and I actually I feel like I get

853
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: stomach cramps and I feel off if I eat right

854
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: before I workout. But it takes trial and air and experimentation,

855
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: and it might take trying some different some different foods

856
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: and just seeing what works best for your body. But

857
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: like you, over time, I've experimented with all sorts of

858
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: different meals and the timing of them, and what works

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00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: best for me is making myself a smoothie right when

860
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: I get home from the gym. So this is like

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Speaker 1: while I'm making my kids their breakfast, which might be

862
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: scrambled eggs, it might be cereal and apples. It could

863
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: be a little different. Every day. For me, I like

864
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: to have a banana with some peanut butter powder and

865
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: some whole milk. And ice, and sometimes I'll add cinnamon

866
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: or some other anti inflammatories like that. But it's it

867
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: fills me up, it's satiating, it feels refreshing after I've

868
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: moved my body and gotten all hot and sweaty, and

869
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: I feel like energized and ready to tackle the day.

870
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: But it took me a long time to arrive at

871
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: that meal that to learn that, like this is what

872
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: helps me really perform at my peak and all the

873
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: hours that follow. I'm so glad you made that point

874
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: and hearing the editor in chief of Women's Health say

875
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: that it is so refreshing and helpful, because I think

876
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: that's exactly it. That none of us are the same, right,

877
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: none of us have the same goals or core values

878
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: as you said, right, and therefore fat burning may not

879
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: be your priority. Your priority may be feeling good, right,

880
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: Your priority may be getting energy. Your priority maybe losing

881
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: weight or gaining weight, whatever it is, Like, it's just

882
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: your core values and your priority has to be and

883
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: we have to be able to experimenting. I think that's

884
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing from you. It's just how many different

885
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: types of things have you tried. I remember trying oatmeal.

886
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: I remember trying cereal, I remember trying avocado toast, I

887
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: remember trying just dates and nuts, and finally I found

888
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: a win with this and I feel so good about it.

889
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: And again I don't go around saying, hey, everyone should

890
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: do this. I think you should try these two things

891
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: that I've found to be beneficial, and sealery uses lots

892
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: of benefits. But at the same time, you may have

893
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: it and be like Jay, I feel terrible after that, right,

894
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: And I love that you're just giving us permission to say,

895
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: do you try stuff? Yes, and stop thinking that it

896
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: has to be this way. Yes, well, that is very much.

897
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: The ethos of Women's Health is that we are determined

898
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: to help our readers live healthier, happier lives, and our

899
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: job is to give you science backed, expert based, soundly

900
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: researched ideas and tips and suggestions. But the truth is,

901
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: the magic happens when something resonates for you and you

902
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: decided to try it, and then it unmocks a whole

903
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: new part of you. You feel better, you feel happier,

904
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: and it's going to look different for every single person. Yeah. Absolutely.

905
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Speaker 1: You talk a lot in the book about obviously your

906
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: journaling practice too, We've spoken about this before, and I

907
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: am such a big believer in journaling. I think it's

908
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: such a powerful practice. My wife as well, oh's journaling.

909
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: She talks about journaling in the same way as you do.

910
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: She feels so connected to it. Yeah, and she will

911
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: often do a lot of free journaling, which you just

912
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: let everything out and everything go. And I want to hear,

913
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: how can someone start a journaling practice if they feel

914
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: scared by it? Yes, And I identify with those people

915
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: because it seemed like just one more thing to take on.

916
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: But I have aspired to journal for many years and

917
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: I this summer it really clicked, like as a non

918
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: negotiable ritual that I do every single morning. And the

919
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: way I wrapped my head around it was by giving

920
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: myself permission to stop after two sentences if I didn't

921
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: have anything else to say or just wasn't feeling it.

922
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: And that was like the game changer for me. And

923
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: I think you can apply that to a lot of

924
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: different areas in your life, like even workouts. I've told

925
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: people just go to the gym or start the workout

926
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: for a few minutes and if you feel just oh,

927
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling it today, you can stop watch four

928
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 1: minutes Where did you come along? So four minutes there's

929
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: actually very cool sign. It's about four minutes physiologically, that's

930
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: how long it takes for our body to acclimate to

931
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: the work of a physical exertion. Your oxygenation changes, your

932
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: joints and muscles lubricate you. Essentially you warm up. So

933
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: it's the difference between being warmed up and coming in

934
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: cold and nine times out of ten, when I make

935
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Speaker 1: it to the four minutes point. On those days, I

936
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: just am not feeling motivated and don't feel like it.

937
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: Buy four minutes in, I'm like, but I feel like

938
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: a new person. I've got this, and I go ahead

939
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: and do the whole workout. Same thing with journaling, though

940
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: some mornings I'm like, I don't have time, I don't

941
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: have anything to say. It's okay, Liz, just two sentences

942
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: is enough? How did you figure out too? I literally

943
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: pulled it out of thin air. It felt like short enough,

944
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: like I gave it some effort, but also short enough

945
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: that it didn't overwhelm me and Jay. I have never

946
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: stopped at two sentences. It always goes beyond that once

947
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: you get going. I love those two pieces of advice.

948
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: I think it's so important. We always set like a target,

949
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: but what we need to do is set a minimum.

950
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: M yes. Right. It's like the office is like we're

951
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: always used to saying that this, I want to write

952
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: a page a day, but we don't just say, well,

953
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: let me just write two lines. Right, it's like a

954
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: reframing of that. Yeah, it's a reframing. And actually you're

955
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: so right that you develop more confidence, more excitement, more

956
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: enthusiasm when you break what you thought you were going

957
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: to do, rather than when you fall short of a target.

958
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: So if you even wrote nine lines out of ten,

959
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: that would feel worse. Yeah, then if you stopped at two. Yes,

960
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: I love that. One of my favorite studies is about

961
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: the power of accomplishments and taking a moment to reflect

962
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: upon them. It's a psychology principle, the psychology of momentum.

963
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: When you accomplish something that propels you forward to accomplish

964
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: another thing, and it over time, it raises your expectations,

965
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: but you gain that momentum. So if you are able

966
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: to reframe and say I did it, I did four minutes,

967
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: I did two sentences. Actually I blew that out of

968
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: the water and I did ten minutes and ten sentences.

969
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: Whatever it is that that little perspective shift will be

970
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: extremely powerful and everything else you tackle the rest of

971
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: the day. Absolutely. Yeah. I was watching a video recently

972
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: where one of my friends, Jason Goldberg, he was talking

973
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: about his study in the Olympics, and he was saying

974
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: that people who get bronze are happier than those who

975
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: get silver because people who got silver were so close

976
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: to it, so fascinating that that pains us so much

977
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,479
Speaker 1: that we feel less happy. Was when you got bronze,

978
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: you're kind of happy because I made it to the podium. Yes,

979
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: And so I feel like every day we need to

980
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: just make it to the podium and not try and

981
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: aim for this number one, because when you aim for

982
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: that number one, you kind of just set yourself up

983
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: for I'm not saying we shouldn't aim high, that's That's

984
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: not the point I'm making. I'm just saying that on

985
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: a daily basis, you don't need to be number one.

986
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: You just need to make it to the podium. This

987
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: is going to become a new Los mantra. Make it

988
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: to the podium. I'm obsessed with that. Yeah, it's from

989
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: that study that he shared in a video, and I

990
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: thought that was fascinating. One of the things that I

991
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: love in this book that you talk about also is

992
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: winning your weekend. Yes, And when I read this, I

993
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: couldn't agree with you more because I think I think

994
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: about that every week where I'm like, the quality of

995
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: my week is based on the quality of my weekend,

996
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: and the quality of my weekend is based on my week.

997
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: And as monks, we were taught that the quality of

998
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: your day is based on your two hours of meditation,

999
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: and the quality of your two hours of meditation is

1000
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: based on your day, and so they're symbiotic, and often

1001
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: I think we look at our weekends as a way

1002
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: of making up for the week. How do you win

1003
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: your weekend and how does that transform the week? Definitely,

1004
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: weekends are so powerful. And I'll just speak for me personally,

1005
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: weekends or the time when I actually I do not

1006
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: set that five seventeen alarm. I'm going to sleep as

1007
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: late as my kids and dog let me. But I

1008
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: am also in many ways bringing to life those core

1009
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: values that I bring to life every single weekday morning too.

1010
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: I want to spend quality time with my kids. I

1011
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: like to go to a farmer's market and take the

1012
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: time to you know, like pick up the fruits and

1013
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: veggies and meet some of the farmers who are there,

1014
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: and think about what do I want to cook this week?

1015
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: Get excited about putting all the fall apples into a

1016
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: beautiful bowl on my kitchen countertop. And the other thing

1017
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: is jay for me on weekends, I have to be

1018
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: clear about all the plans and invitations and things that

1019
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: could come my way. And it's so easy to be like, well,

1020
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: that sounds like fun. You know, this party or this

1021
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: event or this dinner, and that stuff can be really fun,

1022
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: and being social and being around people is wonderful and

1023
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: can have tons of health benefits. But I also try

1024
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: to be really careful about not over extending myself and

1025
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: making the weekend like a new different form of hustling.

1026
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 1: I have to build in time to just chill and relax,

1027
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: and sometimes that means saying no to going out to

1028
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: dinner with friends, you know, just being honest that what

1029
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: my body and heart and soul need are just some

1030
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: like alone time, watching the latest Marvel movie with my

1031
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: kids and my husband, I'm petting my dog. How have

1032
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: you got better at saying no? I think that's something

1033
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: that so many of us struggle with. And when you

1034
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: talk about owning your morning, winning your weekend, saying no

1035
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: is such a big part of that because the night before,

1036
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: like I know, me and my wife, because we've found

1037
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: o morning groove. Right now, we're making sure that we're

1038
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: in bed by nine thirty in the evening because that's

1039
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: really important to us. But we're saying no to so

1040
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: many things. It's it's so true. I think a lot

1041
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: of us feel like to live fuller, happier lives, we

1042
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: need to add things, And you're exactly right. Removing some

1043
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: things and decluttering is just as powerful and important. So I,

1044
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: as a lifelong people pleaser who squirms at the thought

1045
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: of somebody being mad or upset or disappointed, it's taken

1046
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: me a long time to learn this that the hindest

1047
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: and most authentic thing to do is to say no

1048
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: quickly and not let the invitations sit there in fester

1049
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: where it's occupying your brain power, probably stressing out your

1050
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: friend who invited you and is like, what's up? Why

1051
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: hasn't Jay responded to me? Like can he come? Does

1052
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: he want to come? You know, and you don't have

1053
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: to go into the the paragraph long reason why you

1054
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: can't be there, You can just simply say thank you

1055
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: so much for the invitation, I'm really sorry that I

1056
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: have a conflict and I can't come, but like I'm

1057
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing you blah blah blah your version

1058
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: of that in your own words, in an authentic way.

1059
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: But that's been very powerful for me is rather than

1060
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 1: letting it sit and thinking about it and then there's

1061
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: like more more drama and internal like oh, I can't

1062
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: say no now that's been you know, just handle it

1063
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: in the moment, and that that does require that you

1064
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: get clear about what your weekend is going to look like.

1065
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: Are you going to have like one social commitment is

1066
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: next weekend one where you actually just need to lay

1067
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: low and not have any and then when the invitation

1068
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 1: comes in or the thing pops up, you're more prepared

1069
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: to answer in the moment and imagine like the amount

1070
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: of space that that will release in your brain and

1071
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: the emotional energy it unlocks for you to not have

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Speaker 1: that sitting around hanging over you. I love that. I

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Speaker 1: love that. I want to encourage everyone who's been listening

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Speaker 1: and watching today to make sure you grab a copy

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Speaker 1: of own your Morning will have the link in the

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Speaker 1: caption and everywhere else. And of course I really want

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Speaker 1: to see what you're all learning from this session, So

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Speaker 1: I want you to tag me and Liz, and I

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Speaker 1: want you to hashtag own your Morning. Liz, You've been

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Speaker 1: so generous with your time. I want to end, as

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Speaker 1: we do with every on Purpose episode, with the final

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Speaker 1: five or the fast five okay, which the rapid fire

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Speaker 1: questions where you have to answer every question in one

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Speaker 1: word or one sentence maximum, so you have a bit

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Speaker 1: of flexibility. I I like a challenge good. I know

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Speaker 1: you do. So the first question that I have for

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Speaker 1: you is what is the best piece of morning routine

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Speaker 1: advice you've ever received? I mean, I literally wrote a

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Speaker 1: book about making me say one word one Okay, I'll

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Speaker 1: say one word, one sentence. Okay, Light light Light. Do

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Speaker 1: you want me to expand for a sentence? Yeah. It

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Speaker 1: is scientifically proven that exposing yourself to light a sap

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Speaker 1: after waking naturally makes you feel more energetic and alert.

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Speaker 1: I love that, beautiful. I wake up at six am,

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Speaker 1: so and you wake up at five seventeen when it's

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Speaker 1: not very light. I mean, this is getting more challenging

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Speaker 1: as we're moving into wintertime and it's dark morning, but

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Speaker 1: light like even a bright light from a lamp. M

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Speaker 1: that's good for you too. Yeah, I love that. Question

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Speaker 1: number two, what's the worst piece of morning routine advice

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Speaker 1: you've ever heard? The worst piece is that there's one

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Speaker 1: right way to do it. It's gonna look beautifully different

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Speaker 1: and unique for every single one of us. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a great answer. Thad question, how would you describe your

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Speaker 1: current purpose service? I'm going to leave it at one

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Speaker 1: word service. And question number four, what's the most recent

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Speaker 1: thing you've been tinkering with or playing around or experimenting

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Speaker 1: within your morning routine. I love listening to music to

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Speaker 1: set my energy, and I'm having a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: tinkering with different types of music. I love that and

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Speaker 1: using it to go where I want to be energetically

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Speaker 1: and to take me down a notch when I'm a

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Speaker 1: little overly or journalized and hyped up. That's brilliant. I

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Speaker 1: really like that one. That's so awesome. I think we

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Speaker 1: all listen to the same songs again on the same playlist.

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Speaker 1: It's so important. I love that. Okay, fifth and final question,

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Speaker 1: if you could create one morning routine habit that everyone

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Speaker 1: in the world had to do. What would it be?

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Speaker 1: I think we could change the world if everybody began

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Speaker 1: their day with gratitude. I personally write a gratitude list.

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Speaker 1: It can be short, it can be long, but that

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Speaker 1: is some incredible energy to begin your day with. I

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Speaker 1: love that. Liz. Plus for everyone the author of Own

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Speaker 1: Your Morning, and make sure you get the book. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you tag us. Please please please, I think, Liz,

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Speaker 1: there's so many awesomely insightful things today and I want

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Speaker 1: to see everything that resonate with you. So you can

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Speaker 1: tag Liz on Instagram tag me as well, and please

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Speaker 1: please please share the hashtag on your morning so that

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Speaker 1: we can follow along and see all of your insights. Liz,

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Speaker 1: is there anything that I didn't ask you that you

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Speaker 1: want to share that you want to tell my community? Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're the most awesome interviewer, and it's super fun to

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Speaker 1: talk to somebody else who loves mornings. And yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just want to say that you don't have to be

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Speaker 1: a morning person to read this book. It will have

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Speaker 1: some tweaks and ideas to elevate your morning to help

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Speaker 1: you level up, but it's also for those of you

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Speaker 1: who think you're a night owl and that you can

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Speaker 1: never change your morning, I promise you. I promise you

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Speaker 1: you can. I will help you. Jay will help you.

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Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see everybody's hashtags because I'm

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Speaker 1: inspired by how different everybody's mornings look, and that's that's

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Speaker 1: the fun part. I'd love to share them and inspire

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Speaker 1: more create a little morning movement. Yes, morning movement. I

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Speaker 1: love that hashtag on your morning tag us while you're

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Speaker 1: doing your weird, funky, interesting, curious morning routine in practice.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it. And Liz, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much again for coming on on purpose. And I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to share this with my community. It was

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Speaker 1: wonderful to be here with you. Thank you so much, Jay,

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Speaker 1: Thanks lu