WEBVTT - Can I Call You An Enby? (Patreon Preview)

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<v Speaker 1>You are straight up badass and slaying it.

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<v Speaker 2>Honey, slay honey.

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<v Speaker 3>She's sheen ami no me n no, what is your childlenge?

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<v Speaker 3>I have as.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what's going down the floor like us around.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we need to migrate our rage over

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<v Speaker 2>to a new topic.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe well look, girl, let's let's let's actually let's

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<v Speaker 1>bring it to a positive okay, Rose, this episode has

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<v Speaker 1>gifted us something that is absolutely invaluable, which is Chay

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<v Speaker 1>Dias is dead name and that that was so I shrieked, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we can say it, but Phoebe has I say no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>can I say something?

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<v Speaker 4>Say something problematic?

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<v Speaker 2>This is Patreon.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think Chay's stand up with their old presentation

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<v Speaker 4>was better than their current stand up when they were

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<v Speaker 4>like they're like men suck at I right, ladies, Like

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<v Speaker 4>that's funnier than any other comedy Chay has done on

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<v Speaker 4>the show. So I I disagree, but I know I'm

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not being no, Okay, but here's the thing, I

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<v Speaker 4>also am gonna kind of agree because because.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the bar was so low, so like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>also thought.

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<v Speaker 4>That maybe that's what they were doing, like he was

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<v Speaker 4>gonna watch that video and was gonna be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I used to be so funny, like let me get

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<v Speaker 4>back there, and instead it like, oh, most reinforced that

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<v Speaker 4>the comedy that they've been doing is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>See okay, yes, okay, okay, okay. When I was watching it,

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<v Speaker 1>the way I experienced it was, oh, Chads is now

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<v Speaker 1>watching Dead Name YouTube videos, which okay, relatable, every trans

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<v Speaker 1>person does this, like if you want to have a

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<v Speaker 1>nice little night in with your blunt and your trauma whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>But like when I was watching it, I was like, oh, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Phoebe Bleep, the Dead Name is really bombing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like That's how I was experiencing the comedy, Like the

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<v Speaker 1>laughter wasn't that strong, and like the punchlines were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of meandering, like it didn't feel like they were selling it.

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<v Speaker 1>They felt so out of their body, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that that's what the scene was trying to tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh, like Chay.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to be so like like you know, making material

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<v Speaker 1>that was like so not who they were and blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah, and so I thought that was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be an AHA moment to be like, don't go back

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<v Speaker 1>to where you came from, but instead it was in

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<v Speaker 1>AHA moment, that's like, that's the comedy that they should

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<v Speaker 1>be making again, Like what I didn't get it?

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<v Speaker 4>It was it was so weird, and I actually wish

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<v Speaker 4>a well, I think it would have been a more

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<v Speaker 4>interesting choice to be like, oh, when Chay was presenting differently,

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<v Speaker 4>like even if they didn't look the way that they

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to or ment or whatever, they had a better

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<v Speaker 4>grasp on what was funny or whatever, and it would

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<v Speaker 4>have been cool for them to like reclaim what they

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<v Speaker 4>were doing at that time, like with their current presentation

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<v Speaker 4>instead of I don't even know. It's like every everything

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<v Speaker 4>they try to introduce with Chay is like conflicting and confusing,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't I don't understand. I just like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think they should be this much of a character

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<v Speaker 4>on the show. Like I liked them as a foil

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<v Speaker 4>for Miranda. I actually thought that's where Miranda sees them

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<v Speaker 4>doing stand up and it's all about her. That is

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<v Speaker 4>effective for Miranda and it led to some good drama.

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<v Speaker 4>It does make me concerned that the two of them

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<v Speaker 4>are going to you know, in the last episode, but no,

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<v Speaker 4>that can't be. That's what's gonna happen because.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the envy.

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<v Speaker 1>We have the envy that's like, Oh, I'm sorry, can

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<v Speaker 1>I call you an envy?

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<v Speaker 4>That's so offensive?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, what once.

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<v Speaker 1>Again was that.

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<v Speaker 4>Are Is it like the most famous thing about cha,

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<v Speaker 4>like in the world, that they are non bids? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, but also it felt like the

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<v Speaker 1>way the way the scene was written, I actually really

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<v Speaker 1>want to deep dive deep into a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>chay of it all.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to go there with me for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode, I have a lot to say, so yes and

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<v Speaker 1>please yes. And that scene when the envy was like

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<v Speaker 1>I believe they said explicitly they said nothing hotter than

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<v Speaker 1>a strong envy person, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is the exact line.

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<v Speaker 4>I almost threw something on my TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like that and then the response was like

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<v Speaker 1>oh and then they were like, oh sorry, can I

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<v Speaker 1>call you endy? And the way it was written, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, do the writers think that envy is like

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of slur or like it's like some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like it's like different than just non binary. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was so so wild and obviously, sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>blow up your spot, but I'm gonna say it over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again, there are no non binary writers in

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<v Speaker 1>this writer's room. There are no like transmasculine writers in

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<v Speaker 1>this writer's room. There are no Latin people in this

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<v Speaker 1>writer's room. So it shows in scenes like this that

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<v Speaker 1>are I liked the part where.

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<v Speaker 4>That comment the comic was heckling the couple, Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 4>very obviously trans couple, and he was like, I'm trans,

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<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, we know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so once again, the people writing this are

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<v Speaker 1>so cistion. It's so so frustrating how cisgender. The framing

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<v Speaker 1>and line deliveries, and and and and that you're that

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly I was gonna bring that up to ros.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it drove me crazy. Also, the non binary

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<v Speaker 1>with a septum piercing wearing a newsboy's hat just after

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie war that newsboy's.

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<v Speaker 2>Hat two episodes ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is putting all of the Newsy hats.

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<v Speaker 4>On these characters, But honestly, that is the non binary

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<v Speaker 4>person wearing it does make it? Yes, it does? It does?

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<v Speaker 2>It does Carrie wearing it rotten, especially in that blanket.

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<v Speaker 2>The transmit of the crowd was so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm a wait, can I can I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something that's maybe gonna surprise you?

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<v Speaker 2>Though sure.

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<v Speaker 1>In this kind of fight that boiled down between Miranda

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<v Speaker 1>and Trey outside of the club, which I actually thought

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<v Speaker 1>was very interesting. And this I'd never ever want to

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<v Speaker 1>see MPK write a stand up material ever ever in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. But or anything or any sure, but in

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<v Speaker 1>this in this yes, But in this scene, Chay doing stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Up is necessary for the plot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually would have welcomed this scene if I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't already watched so much bad stand up. But the

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<v Speaker 1>jokes weren't funny and they weren't even that mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>so the stakes weren't there for me. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, on the character level, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Miranda is wrong and Chay was right.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think Miranda's wrong about?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Miranda was wrong to show up without telling Chay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's number one. If they were wrong to be mad

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<v Speaker 1>that Chay did a bunch of stand up about her,

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<v Speaker 1>because that is literally their job, which is to mind

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<v Speaker 1>their life for material, and they obviously never would have

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<v Speaker 1>done that material if they knew that Miranda would be there.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that it's like, oh, Chay is just

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<v Speaker 1>mad that they got No, it's Chay is someone who

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<v Speaker 1>has to create material out of their life in order

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<v Speaker 1>to live. But they probably still care a lot about Miranda.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they would tell Miranda to their face, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm making material about you, but I don't think you're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to see it, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a mature conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think it's about right and wrong, Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>Miranda should have told Chay she was coming, And it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not about whether it's right for Chaye to mine

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<v Speaker 4>their personal life for comedy. It's about the emotion of

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<v Speaker 4>Miranda seeing that and being hurt by it, which honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>like is something that Miranda needed to experience at this

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<v Speaker 4>part of her journey. I think, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to talk about up mare, so I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 4>investigate it too deeply. But I just I'm still like,

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<v Speaker 4>if next week is the last episode of this iteration

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<v Speaker 4>of the show, and I truly think it is, how

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<v Speaker 4>the fuck is Miranda's story going to end?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because honestly, Chay has a bigger plotline than Miranda

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<v Speaker 1>at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, if you want to hear all of our thoughts,

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