1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: You are straight up badass and slaying it. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: Honey, slay honey. 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 3: She's sheen ami no me n no, what is your childlenge? 4 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 3: I have as. 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: You know, what's going down the floor like us around. 6 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: I feel like we need to migrate our rage over 7 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: to a new topic. 8 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: And maybe well look, girl, let's let's let's actually let's 9 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: bring it to a positive okay, Rose, this episode has 10 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: gifted us something that is absolutely invaluable, which is Chay 11 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: Dias is dead name and that that was so I shrieked, no, 12 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: we can say it, but Phoebe has I say no, no, 13 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: can I say something? 14 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 4: Say something problematic? 15 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: This is Patreon. 16 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: So I think Chay's stand up with their old presentation 17 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: was better than their current stand up when they were 18 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: like they're like men suck at I right, ladies, Like 19 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: that's funnier than any other comedy Chay has done on 20 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: the show. So I I disagree, but I know I'm 21 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 4: I'm not being no, Okay, but here's the thing, I 22 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 4: also am gonna kind of agree because because. 23 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: Just the bar was so low, so like, yeah, I 24 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: also thought. 25 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: That maybe that's what they were doing, like he was 26 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 4: gonna watch that video and was gonna be like, oh, 27 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: I used to be so funny, like let me get 28 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: back there, and instead it like, oh, most reinforced that 29 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: the comedy that they've been doing is bad. 30 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: See okay, yes, okay, okay, okay. When I was watching it, 31 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: the way I experienced it was, oh, Chads is now 32 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: watching Dead Name YouTube videos, which okay, relatable, every trans 33 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: person does this, like if you want to have a 34 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: nice little night in with your blunt and your trauma whatever, 35 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: But like when I was watching it, I was like, oh, like. 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 2: Phoebe Bleep, the Dead Name is really bombing. 37 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: Like That's how I was experiencing the comedy, Like the 38 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: laughter wasn't that strong, and like the punchlines were kind 39 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: of meandering, like it didn't feel like they were selling it. 40 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: They felt so out of their body, and I thought 41 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: that that's what the scene was trying to tell us. 42 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: It was like, oh, like Chay. 43 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: Used to be so like like you know, making material 44 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: that was like so not who they were and blah 45 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: blah blah, and so I thought that was going to 46 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: be an AHA moment to be like, don't go back 47 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: to where you came from, but instead it was in 48 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: AHA moment, that's like, that's the comedy that they should 49 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: be making again, Like what I didn't get it? 50 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: It was it was so weird, and I actually wish 51 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: a well, I think it would have been a more 52 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: interesting choice to be like, oh, when Chay was presenting differently, 53 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 4: like even if they didn't look the way that they 54 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: wanted to or ment or whatever, they had a better 55 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 4: grasp on what was funny or whatever, and it would 56 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: have been cool for them to like reclaim what they 57 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: were doing at that time, like with their current presentation 58 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: instead of I don't even know. It's like every everything 59 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 4: they try to introduce with Chay is like conflicting and confusing, 60 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 4: and I don't I don't understand. I just like I 61 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: don't think they should be this much of a character 62 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: on the show. Like I liked them as a foil 63 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: for Miranda. I actually thought that's where Miranda sees them 64 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: doing stand up and it's all about her. That is 65 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: effective for Miranda and it led to some good drama. 66 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: It does make me concerned that the two of them 67 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: are going to you know, in the last episode, but no, 68 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: that can't be. That's what's gonna happen because. 69 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: We have the envy. 70 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: We have the envy that's like, Oh, I'm sorry, can 71 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: I call you an envy? 72 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 4: That's so offensive? 73 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: It's like, what once. 74 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Again was that. 75 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 4: Are Is it like the most famous thing about cha, 76 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: like in the world, that they are non bids? Yeah? 77 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, but also it felt like the 78 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: way the way the scene was written, I actually really 79 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: want to deep dive deep into a lot of the 80 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: chay of it all. 81 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: If you want to go there with me for this. 82 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: Episode, I have a lot to say, so yes and 83 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: please yes. And that scene when the envy was like 84 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: I believe they said explicitly they said nothing hotter than 85 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: a strong envy person, which. 86 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: Which is the exact line. 87 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: I almost threw something on my TV. 88 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: I was like that and then the response was like 89 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: oh and then they were like, oh sorry, can I 90 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: call you endy? And the way it was written, I 91 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: was like, do the writers think that envy is like 92 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: some kind of slur or like it's like some kind 93 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: of like it's like different than just non binary. Yeah, 94 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Like it was so so wild and obviously, sorry to 95 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: blow up your spot, but I'm gonna say it over 96 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: and over again, there are no non binary writers in 97 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: this writer's room. There are no like transmasculine writers in 98 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: this writer's room. There are no Latin people in this 99 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: writer's room. So it shows in scenes like this that 100 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: are I liked the part where. 101 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: That comment the comic was heckling the couple, Yeah, the 102 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 4: very obviously trans couple, and he was like, I'm trans, 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: Like yeah, we know. 104 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: It was so once again, the people writing this are 105 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: so cistion. It's so so frustrating how cisgender. The framing 106 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: and line deliveries, and and and and that you're that 107 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: is exactly I was gonna bring that up to ros. 108 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: It's just it drove me crazy. Also, the non binary 109 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: with a septum piercing wearing a newsboy's hat just after 110 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: Carrie war that newsboy's. 111 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: Hat two episodes ago. 112 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: Who is putting all of the Newsy hats. 113 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 4: On these characters, But honestly, that is the non binary 114 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: person wearing it does make it? Yes, it does? It does? 115 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: It does Carrie wearing it rotten, especially in that blanket. 116 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 2: The transmit of the crowd was so funny. 117 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm a wait, can I can I 118 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: tell you something that's maybe gonna surprise you? 119 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: Though sure. 120 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: In this kind of fight that boiled down between Miranda 121 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: and Trey outside of the club, which I actually thought 122 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: was very interesting. And this I'd never ever want to 123 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: see MPK write a stand up material ever ever in 124 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: my life. But or anything or any sure, but in 125 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: this in this yes, But in this scene, Chay doing stand. 126 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: Up is necessary for the plot. 127 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: And I actually would have welcomed this scene if I 128 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: hadn't already watched so much bad stand up. But the 129 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: jokes weren't funny and they weren't even that mean, and 130 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: so the stakes weren't there for me. But at the 131 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: end of the day, on the character level, I think 132 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: Miranda is wrong and Chay was right. 133 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 4: What do you think Miranda's wrong about? 134 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: I think Miranda was wrong to show up without telling Chay. 135 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: That's number one. If they were wrong to be mad 136 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: that Chay did a bunch of stand up about her, 137 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: because that is literally their job, which is to mind 138 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: their life for material, and they obviously never would have 139 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: done that material if they knew that Miranda would be there. 140 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that it's like, oh, Chay is just 141 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: mad that they got No, it's Chay is someone who 142 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: has to create material out of their life in order 143 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: to live. But they probably still care a lot about Miranda. 144 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure they would tell Miranda to their face, Hey, 145 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm making material about you, but I don't think you're 146 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: ready to see it, you know what I mean, Like 147 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: that would be a mature conversation. 148 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's about right and wrong, Like, yes, 149 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 4: Miranda should have told Chay she was coming, And it's like, 150 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: it's not about whether it's right for Chaye to mine 151 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 4: their personal life for comedy. It's about the emotion of 152 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: Miranda seeing that and being hurt by it, which honestly, 153 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: like is something that Miranda needed to experience at this 154 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: part of her journey. I think, I mean, I don't 155 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: want to talk about up mare, so I'm not gonna 156 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 4: investigate it too deeply. But I just I'm still like, 157 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 4: if next week is the last episode of this iteration 158 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 4: of the show, and I truly think it is, how 159 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 4: the fuck is Miranda's story going to end? 160 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, because honestly, Chay has a bigger plotline than Miranda 161 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: at this point. 162 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, if you want to hear all of our thoughts, 163 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 4: but then just like that, go to Patreon dot com, 164 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: slash like a virgin and become a patron