1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, I'm so excited because we're going to be 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: adding a really special offering onto the back of my 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: solo episodes on Fridays. The Daily Jay is a daily 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: series on Calm and it's meant to inspire you while 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: outlining tools and techniques to live a more mindful, stress 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: free life. We dive into a range of topics and 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: the best part is each episode is only seven minutes long, 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: so you can incorporate it into your schedule no matter 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: how busy you are. As a dedicated part of the 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: on Purpose community, I wanted to do something special for 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: you this year, so I'll be playing a hand picked 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: Daily Jay during each of my Friday podcasts. This week, 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about your habits and how to develop better 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: daily routines. Of course, if you want to listen to 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: The Daily Jay every day, you can subscribe to Calm, 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: So go to Calm dot com forward slash Jay for 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: forty percent off your membership. Today only made it. Thank 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: you for having made it happen. You're in LA. 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: I was a guest on the j Sutty podcast You're 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: an Amazing I loved you. 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: It was the short video we made that we put 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: on Facebook and Instagram that went so much, like people 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: loved your episode, like absolutely loved it. Amazing. 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: Well, they're going to love this episode. I'm pretty big deal. 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: I'm very grateful to be here. 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so grateful that you were here. Last time 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: we saw each other, I was like getting down, I know, 28 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: I know, in high heels. 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: It was impressive. 30 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: Okay, so we have to just like start from the beginning. Okay, 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: not childhood, but like where Jay Shutty was kind of 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: born into who he is today. 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: That was going in a monastery. Yeah, absolutely, so we'll 34 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: start from there. 35 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start from there. 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: I'll give you a bit of a prequel just because 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: it's important. Okay. So I spent my teens being in 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: absolute rebel, and I was always experimenting with everything under 39 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: the sun, multiple relationships, dabbled in drugs a little bit, 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: nothing for the form of addiction or wanting anything else 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: apart from really seeking a thrill, like I was looking 42 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: for a thrill. I was looking for meeting. I was 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: looking for passionate purpose. But for me at that time, 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know what that was called, and it kind 45 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: of came out in all these rebellious ways. And I 46 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: think that also came from coming from a family where 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: it was very much like live by the rule. You know, 48 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: you can be a doctor, a lawyer, or a failure, 49 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: like you've got these three options, and then I was 50 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: trying to rebel and question that. The most important thing 51 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: was that I spent a lot of my teens, starting 52 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: at the later end of my teens, really wanting to 53 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: learn and really wanting to hear from people who went 54 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: from rags to riches. 55 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: And it just hit you it was one of those 56 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: things I have more purpose, No. 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: It was. It was a mixture of a few things. 58 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: My dad was trying to get me to read. Now, 59 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: I'd never read a book until I was fourteen, until 60 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: my dad said, I giving me autobiographies and biographies, and 61 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: those were the books I started reading. So I read 62 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: like David Beckham's autobiography and I read The Rocks autobiography interest. 63 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: I was massively in to soccer and massively into wrestling, 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: so both of those were huge for me. 65 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: You said soccer and that football I did. I want 66 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: to call it real football, all right. I went to 67 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: to a AFC last night, so I'm trying to you know. 68 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: But it was that feeling of my father was trying 69 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: to help me grow and think and be more thoughtful 70 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: and introduce me to wisdom. And at the same time, 71 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 3: I was just going through experiences where I lost a 72 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: couple of friends. You know, one of my friends died 73 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 3: in a car accident and one of my friends died 74 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 3: through gang violence, and like both of those scenarios like 75 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: made me start to question, Like wait a minute, Like 76 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: they were good people, right, they were like beautiful, loving, kind, 77 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: sweet people, but they just went in a moment and 78 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: that really got me that year. Like I was around 79 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: sixteen years old when that happened, and that really hit me, 80 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: and I was just like, what is the meaning of life? 81 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: Like where am I going? Like am I using my time? 82 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: Wisely? 83 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: You never saw that coming. And I think when you 84 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: lose someone that's close to you, whoever that may be, 85 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: I think it makes you question what you do with 86 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: your own time, right, And that's what happened to you, 87 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: And that's what happened to me, and that's what kind 88 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: of started that journey. A couple of years later, I 89 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: was invited to an event by my friend and so 90 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: this monk was invited to speak, and I didn't even 91 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: want to go and I literally said to my friend, 92 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: I said, I'll only go if we go to a 93 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: bar afterwards, Like that's the only way I'm coming out. 94 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: The reason why I'm saying all of this is I 95 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: want people to realize how opposite this was of me, right, 96 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: because it's not like I grew up as a spiritual 97 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: kid or a religious kid or a kid that was 98 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: I was totally the opposite. And then I go to 99 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: this event because my friends say, yes, we'll go to 100 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: the bar afterwards. I'm completely flawed and speechless because everything 101 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: this monk is saying is completely cutting through to my heart. 102 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: And he's talking about like selflessness, and he's talking about service, 103 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: and he's talking about living a life that is worth 104 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: of sacrifice for other people. And I'm thinking, why is 105 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: this appealing to this eighteen year old guy? But it is, 106 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: like all of it's appealing to me. I end up 107 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: spending time with them afterwards, you know, like you network. 108 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: So I went to network for the monk and yeah, exactly, 109 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: like can I get your drink? 110 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Then? 111 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: And then and I go after him and I say, 112 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: you know, everything you so said like really connected with me. 113 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: It really felt powerful to me, and I said, I'd 114 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: love to experience more of this, and so he said, well, 115 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: why don't you come and join me this week? I'm 116 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: traveling in London in England, so why don't you just 117 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: come and hear me this week, speak and get to 118 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: know me better. And I did, and then that led 119 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: to me actually going to live with him in India. 120 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: So I spent all of my summer holidays we didn't 121 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: say vacation summer holidays from eighteen to twenty two, while 122 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: I was at university. Every break I got half of it. 123 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: I spent interning at financial companies in London, and so 124 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: I'd be in bars, steakhouses and suits. And then I'd 125 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: spend the other half of my summers living as a 126 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: monk in India, robes, meditating, sleeping on the floor. And 127 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: then when I graduated, I decided to do it for real. 128 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: So I had all those correct correct Yeah, three years? Yeah, 129 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: that's right. 130 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: What were you doing in the monastery exactly? 131 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: So we would wake up at four am every day 132 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: and half of our day was dedicated to self or 133 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: silence and the other half for service self or silence. Yeah, 134 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: so you'd spend half the day working on your so 135 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: that means self study, self meditation, silence, group meditations, prayer, 136 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: the type of things you expect monks to do, and 137 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: that's like half of your day, okay, But then the 138 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: other half is totally about service. So we would be 139 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: building schools, we'd be feeding homeless children, we'd be trying 140 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: to develop sustainable villages and food distribution programs that were 141 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: helping in serving tons of people in India. And so 142 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: I chose this part because it was this perfect balance 143 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: between self and service. And the way it was taught 144 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: to us is that everything you do in the part 145 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: of the self day, you then go and give it 146 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: away in the service and you learn more, and then 147 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: you come back and do more self realization and then service. 148 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: It's like a cycle. Yeah. Exactly three years in, I 149 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: had pushed my body to extreme limits, like fasting fasting, 150 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: and I'd sleep very little because I wanted to see 151 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: the power of meditation. Had this side of me that 152 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: wanted to make what I was learning even more relevant, 153 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: even more accessible, even more practical. And this is all 154 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: in hindsight. I didn't know this. Then My teacher said 155 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: to me that he felt it would be better if 156 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: I left so I could share what I'd learned. 157 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: Wow, And so he wasn't kicking you out. 158 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: Well, it felt like that because at that time I 159 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: didn't have this hindsight of oh yeah, maybe I was 160 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: in the wrong place or maybe I'd done my time. 161 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: At that time, I was like, I want to do this, 162 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: and I'm pushing and literally he comes out and he's 163 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: just like, you know, it's not you, it's me. It's 164 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: like it feels like one of these awkward breakup conversations, 165 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, I just gave up everything, like I 166 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: broke up with my girlfriend, I left, you know, all 167 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 1: my jobs, I turned down my jobs, I left my family, 168 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: like I gave up everything to do this. But then 169 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: it was like this revelation both internally and from him 170 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: or I was like, maybe this isn't right for me 171 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: for life. And that probably is one of the hardest 172 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: things to ever have to go through. If you've made 173 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: a plan and a vision in your mind of how 174 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: you want your life to look like and then it 175 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: feels like it's just been taken away. And mine was 176 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: to be a monk. It sounds like the weirdest thing, 177 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: but if someone takes that away from you, it hurts. 178 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: Well, that's an interesting statement because it's like you felt 179 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: a calling to be a monk, but then your teacher said, oh, no, 180 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: I think that there's been a different calling for you. 181 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: What's the difference for you between a calling and a desire, 182 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: because it sounds like you had both. 183 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: Ooh, I like that. Yeah, that's a great question. That's 184 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: a great question. A desire is something that you push 185 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: and a calling is something that pulls you. Right, that's 186 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: the difference, And you're right. I think you're spot on. 187 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: I think it was both. I don't think I was 188 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: naturally meant to be a monk. I was someone who 189 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: was trying to rediscover myself and work through so much 190 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: of my teenage years. So for me, a moment for me, 191 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: it was a transformation. It was like going to school, 192 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: but at the same time it turned into a calling 193 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: because I got so fascinated by serving, and I got 194 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: so fascinated by wanting to make an impact, and I 195 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: got so fascinated by wanting my life to mean more 196 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: than just being successful or just being material. And I 197 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: think that's what I got introduced to. 198 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: My belief is that like you have to do the 199 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 2: work in order to get to where you are or 200 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: where you want to be. And there's so much like 201 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: empty prayer or empty meditation that goes into so much 202 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 2: of people's desires or wants or callings. And I think 203 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: that sometimes we just have to either be still and 204 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: wait for that moment to pull us, or be proactive 205 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: in what it is that you truly want to do. 206 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: Because you were being proactive in going and talking to 207 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: that month. Correct, you were being proactive and spending your 208 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: summers with him, but then it was a pulling that 209 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: took you to actually go live in the monastery. So 210 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: it's like it does take both to get to where 211 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: you want to be. 212 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. I did a podcast 213 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: a few months ago and it's called the Myths of Manifesting, 214 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: and I think that's really one of the myths that 215 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: we have, that we just believe that just thinking and 216 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: just willing and just meditating or just praying and suddenly 217 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: someone's going to sprinkle some fairy dust and proof, yeah, 218 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: like the Genie's going to turn up and you know 219 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: you now are that person. I think the challenge is 220 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: that we have to get the balance right and it 221 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: can't be about the result. I think wanting and desire 222 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: is always about the result. A calling is about the process. 223 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Calling is something you're excited to wake up and do 224 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: every day. When you have a desire, it's just like, oh, yeah, 225 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: I want to be on the top of that list 226 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: or I want to be at the top of. 227 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: That yeah, because we have desires in our career, but 228 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: we also have a calling to be where we are today. 229 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: It's the balance. It's both together, right. You want to 230 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: do the prayer and the meditation and the manifest things, 231 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: but then you want to go and follow that up 232 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: and do the work and go do the meetings and 233 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: the strategy. You have to embrace polarities. And what I 234 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: mean by that is people are like, do I need 235 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: to be sincere or do I need to be strategic? 236 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, you need to be both. Sincerity and strategy 237 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: together is a lethal combination. Whereas if you're just sincere, 238 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: then you're not practical, and if you're just strategic, then 239 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: you're not intentional. And you don't want to be lost 240 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: by either of those. You want to have both. 241 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: Faith is important to you and you talk about it 242 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: a lot, but I want to know what faith is 243 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: for you, because for me, faith is very important. Faith 244 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: is something that grounds me. It's the center of who 245 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: I am. It's my calling, it's my desires, all of 246 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: those things. But what is faith to you? 247 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: Faith to me, like the two polarities is the day 248 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: to day practices and the map. So it's the thing 249 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: that's guiding every decision. It's the thing that's guiding every 250 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: direction that I move in. It's the thing that GUIDs 251 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: who I want to be friends with, who I want 252 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: to connect with, the type of work I want to do. 253 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: But then it's also what I do daily. And to me, 254 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: that's what's so beautiful about faith that it can be 255 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: practical and simple, but then it can be philosophical and spiritual. 256 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: And so me, faith is both because if I'm not 257 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: practicing on a daily basis, how can it last? And 258 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: if it's not the governing thing behind all my decisions, 259 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: then how is it true? Like how is it really? 260 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: How is it your moral compass? Also exactly? Yeah, So 261 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: for me, it's both of those things at all times. 262 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: And so it's everything I do in the morning, So 263 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: my meditation, practices, my prayer, the way I communicate, how 264 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: I speak to my wife, like I think all of 265 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: those things how I speak to anyone, I think all 266 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: of those things in my faith. And at the same time, 267 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: it's like, I am I doing this out of love? 268 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: I Am I doing this out of service? Am I 269 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: taking this decision just because it pays the bills and 270 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: just because it makes money? Or am I doing this 271 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: just because I think it will be cool? It's the 272 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: same as It's so funny you asked me this question 273 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: because I was speaking to someone about you just before 274 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: coming the show today. Yes, I was saying one of 275 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: the things I love about Ashley and why I think 276 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: we get along so well and we find it so 277 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: easy to connect is because we're both have such deep faith. Yes, 278 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: And I said, I always find it easier when you 279 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: meet someone who has their faith and it may be different, 280 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: but they're open yep, and then you just connect. And 281 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: that's how I feel with you that when we first 282 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: started talking a meeting, I felt it straight away. 283 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: The people who are really rooted in their faith, and 284 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: that comes before anything else. 285 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: I always connect. 286 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: It's a big deal. 287 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife fell out with you too, even though 288 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: we were down to the Bruno Mars. I know, we 289 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: were like. 290 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so Then you left the monastery and 291 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: you met Ariana Huffington. 292 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean she kind of gave you a platform. Well, yeah, 293 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: it wasn't that quick. So I left and went back 294 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: to London. There was some work there, yeah, exactly. I 295 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: moved him back with my parents and I had my 296 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: big debt to pay us. So I had my university debt, 297 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: which is nowhere near as bad as US debt. 298 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 2: Oh, it's ridiculous. 299 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: It's so bad here, I can't believe it. So I 300 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: had twenty five thousand dollars. So I come back and 301 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out what to do. And 302 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: then fast forward three years. I started making videos after 303 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: I came back. So the videos were far after. But 304 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: I'd been speaking about these things, studying, teaching, sharing since 305 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: I was eighteen, since I was introduced to it. But 306 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: then I really felt this. I was talking to companies, 307 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: I was talking inside events at corporations, and I was 308 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: working one to one and coaching lots of people, and 309 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: that will naturally evolve. But I was thinking, how does 310 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: this reach every person in the world, Like, how do 311 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: we get these messages to reach everyone at no cost, 312 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: for absolutely free, to make it really accessible? And I 313 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: thought video I don't know if this is true or 314 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: whether it's a meme, but I remember seeing something that 315 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: said more people in the world own a smartphone than 316 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: a toothbrush, and I thought two things. I thought, I 317 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: need to make stuff that people can watch on smartphones, 318 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: and then I thought, we need to figure out how 319 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: everyone can get two thrushes. So that's a crazy Yeah, 320 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: it was crazy. I remember seeing it, so I don't 321 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: know if it's true or not. We can check it out. 322 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: And that triggered a thought in me. I was just like, Wow, 323 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: that means there's kids out there who have smartphones, they 324 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: don't have two brushes, which means they can access wisdom 325 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: and insight and all of this stuff that I've been learning. 326 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: So how do we share it with them? So I 327 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: started making these videos. And before that, I went and 328 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: pitched my video idea to round forty media companies in 329 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: London and they all rejected me watch and this was 330 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: before I made a video. I pitched them my idea 331 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: for a mindfulness based video series. So they were like, Jay, 332 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: you have no communication experience, you have no video experience, 333 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: you have no hosting experience. I had no official training 334 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: in this space, and so They're like no, no, no, no, no, 335 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: no no no no. But they were right because I 336 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: hadn't yet demonstrated that I could do what I was 337 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: asking them to invest in. Wow. And so then I 338 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: started making my videos, and my global HR leader at Accentia, 339 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: because I was working at Accenta at the time, a 340 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: big corporate company, she showed Ariannahuffington my videos at Davos. 341 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: And the next thing that happened is I got a 342 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: call from Arion Huffington's team and they were just like, 343 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: we love your videos, we want to meet you in London. 344 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: I met them and I said, look, I'd love to 345 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: see what we can do with this. I then send 346 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: an email every day for thirty days seeing Danny we 347 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: met in London. You promised me that you love my videos, 348 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: and the Arian I love them. We've got to do 349 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: something with them. They're not just going to sit around 350 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: and get out to people and help people. That's deadicate. 351 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: And I wasn't charging anything like I made no money 352 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: from this whatsoever. It was me wanting to share a 353 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: message and hoping that that message would resonate with people. 354 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: A month later, Danny replies to me and says, yes, fine, 355 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: we do want to get these videos out. And now, 356 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: in hindsight, I realized it's because they were going off 357 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: and trying to build thrives. So they were busy with 358 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: that movie at the same time is trying to do this, 359 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: and so Danny makes this happen. I sweak to Arion 360 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: on the phone. She's like, Jay, we really love your content. 361 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: We are going to share it. We want to make 362 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: this happen. And then they share these videos. And we 363 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: shared four videos, and those four videos collectively did tens 364 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: of millions of views. The first video did a million 365 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: in a week, the second video did a million in 366 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: twenty four hours and did like thirty million overall. And 367 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: they were putting all of this on the huff Post site. 368 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: And this was mid twenty sixteen, so it's three and 369 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: a half years ago. I literally just it was amazing, 370 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: just that overnight of overnight social media, all because of 371 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: social media. And like I alway said, I didn't get 372 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: paid a penny for any of those That wasn't the point. 373 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: The point was always can this message reach people? And 374 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: they gave me a platform and so I'm so grateful 375 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: to Arianna and Danny and Caro who was on the 376 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: team at the time, and Dan like that whole group 377 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: of people that I'm still friends with today that were 378 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: just so committed to the message and believed in it. 379 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: I didn't have a platform at that time, I didn't 380 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: have a brand, I didn't have anything, and they believed 381 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: in it. So really it's all credit to them. Because 382 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: now you have. 383 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: To use social media, which is like a dark place 384 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: sometimes how do you handle it? 385 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: I just really have had to build up rules around 386 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: my social media use. So my rule is never look 387 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: at the phone first thing in the morning. 388 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I am really trying. 389 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: This is my biggest one. I think if we did this, 390 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: we would conquer our lives. 391 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: I have now not looked at Instagram for a sing 392 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: in the morning. I just look at like the text, 393 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: the email. Okay, we're good, I that's good. Yep, that's huge? 394 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: Is it for me? 395 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: That's huge. At one point I actually used to put 396 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: my phone and my laptop locked in my car downstairs 397 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: well because that was the only way I could truly 398 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: commence myself not to look at my phone. And I 399 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: think we have to go to that extent sometimes, with 400 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: that extremity to really push ourselves out of it. So 401 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't look at my phone until I go down 402 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: to the gym, which is two hours after I meditate 403 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: and wake up and everything. So I try and avoid 404 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: looking at my phone for those first two hours. And 405 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: I find what that does is it gives your mind 406 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: time to warm up. You don't start your mind on 407 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: someone else's reactive schedule. When you wake up and you 408 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: look at that email and you look at that notification, 409 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: You're now thinking about everything everyone wants you to do, 410 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: not what you want to do right. You're not thinking 411 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: about who you want to be or what you want 412 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: to achieve. You're thinking about, Oh, Mary wants me to 413 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: get that right, you know, Julie wants me to do 414 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: that right? Like whatever. It is like, you start thinking 415 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: about everyone else's schedule. And then the third day that 416 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: happens is And I've said this before, but I think 417 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: it's really powerful when you think about it. I think 418 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: about this in the morning. It really stops me. None 419 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: of us, and I mean literally, none of us would 420 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: let one hundred people walk into our bedroom first thing 421 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: in the morning. That's true. Ever, before doing your hair, 422 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: before you do maybe your makeup, getting clothes on, having 423 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: a shower. You never do that, but we let one 424 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: hundred notifications enter our mind. That's literally trying to shake 425 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: our consciousness awake, right, It's like really trying to wake 426 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: your mind up. You're expecting your mind going from zero 427 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: to sixty miles per hour in five seconds when you 428 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: open up Instagram or WhatsApp or emails, and it's so 429 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: much pressure on our minds. That's really all it is. 430 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: It's pressure and stress for your mind to have to 431 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: wake up and warm up way quicker than our bodies do. 432 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: So that's been a huge one for me. That rule. 433 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 1: The other rule I love, which I fail out all 434 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: the time but I'm trying, is no technology zones in 435 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: your home and no technology times. So I believe that 436 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: the bedroom and the dining table should be technology free 437 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: because it's more fun to sleep and eat with people. Yep, 438 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: so we shouldn't. We should take them out of those 439 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: two places in the home. Everywhere else you can use 440 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: them places in your home, yes, where you can have 441 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: human connections, human time in the just take it away 442 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: from those areas. And I think you almost have to 443 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: imagine when you walking around your home, you almost have 444 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: to imagine, like a red line around the dining table 445 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: and a red line around the bedroom, almost like a 446 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: laser like imagine if you cross over, it's going to 447 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: like electrocute you or something. Maybe we should do that 448 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: for some time. You know that could stop you. Bet, 449 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: So that's it. Setting up rules around technology for me 450 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: has been huge. Making sure that when I get back 451 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: in the evening, you're not using technology past seven pm APM. 452 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: Whatever that rule is for you. And yes you're gonna 453 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: break it, of course, and yes you're not gonna be perfect, 454 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: But the point is, at least if you have the rule, 455 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: you're working towards something. That's really what wonders for me. Definitely, 456 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: at least if it's four out seven days a week, like, 457 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: that's good enough for me. 458 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: You're so good with your words and you're such a 459 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: great listener, but who is your rock? Who's the person 460 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: that's listening to you? And you're able to bounce everything off. 461 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: My wife, My wife is definitely my right. Like she's amazing. 462 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: She's more monk than I'll ever be because she naturally 463 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 1: has these like sage like qualities, like so waking up 464 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: for her is like a piece of cake. My wife 465 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: looks at five am every day and can meditate five 466 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: am five am, and spiritual qualities too. She just has that. 467 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: So for me, I find my wife's amazing. She's always 468 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: good at making sure that I'm doing things for the 469 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: right reason. She's always good at checking me. She's always 470 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: good at humbling me, grounding me, but in a good way, 471 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: not in a critical way, but in a j I 472 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: know you can be better than this. 473 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 474 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I really have that with her. 475 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 2: You know, you need a cheerleader. Yes, I think it's 476 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: very important. Yeah, and I think that again on social media, 477 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 2: there's like always these ideas of like fairy tale relationships, right, 478 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: and expectations, and people aren't talking about what they need. 479 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 2: And I know that you have to talk about relationships 480 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 2: a lot on your social media, like people really want 481 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: to know about relationship. Yes, this is something that's kind 482 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: of plaguing people. Yeah, I kind of to get into 483 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: it a little bit. It's because I feel like, even 484 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: though you may not be the expert, you kind of 485 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: have to be an expert because of all of like 486 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: your followers and all their questions. 487 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: About Well, I think this is fun because I know 488 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: you have a wonderful relationship too. Yeah, so my things 489 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: never been to be an expert. What I think is 490 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: it's fun to unpack the journey when you're on it, right, 491 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: Like I almost think like you never get to the 492 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: end of the journey. So how do you ever become 493 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: an expert because it's almost like if you're an expert, 494 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: then that's like you're saying I've nailed this. 495 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: No, but it's it's. 496 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: You can never can't be it can't be an expert 497 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: in something like relationships because your relationships always evolving, Like 498 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 1: for example, you're having a baby now, yes, that's going 499 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: to evolve your relationshiship change. 500 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: I've never been more in love with Justin than right now. 501 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: I love hearing that yes, Like it's just something about 502 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: growing life with him is oh my gosh, it like 503 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: makes my heart melt. But then when the baby comes, 504 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: they all say everybody says like, and we. 505 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: Don't have to sign up for that, everybody I know. 506 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: And that's the other thing. You don't have to listen 507 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: to what everybody says. I have blocked out so many 508 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: things that people are like, you know, what's going to happen. 509 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: It's going to be like this, and I'm like, does 510 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: it have to be like that? It doesn't know, there 511 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: are certain trends and patterns that we can be wary of, 512 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: of course, and people see that, they're like, Okay, when 513 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 1: you get married, this happens, when you have kids, this 514 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: of course. But I think if you let that define 515 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: your whole experience, that's the biggest mistake you can make. 516 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: And so for me, all I'm trying to share is 517 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: the journey and the process of figuring it out. That's 518 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: all I'm trying to share. And when she was the 519 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: first guest on my podcast that I interviewed, and the 520 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: whole conversation was, here's all the mistakes we made in 521 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: our first three years of marriage, like, this is what 522 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: we got wrong. Oh wow, you went in. That's what 523 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: we talked about because I wanted people to hear how 524 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: much stuff we've worked through, because that's the fun of it. 525 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: Because when you can have fun working through stuff and 526 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: people are hearing that, they're like, oh, my relationship is 527 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: not so different now, because if all I'm seeing is 528 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: the selfies and the happiness and all that kind of stuff. 529 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: So for me, that's where my expertise is. My expertise 530 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: is how do I share while I'm going through it 531 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: and with you just the experience I have. So like, 532 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm not giving advice to couples who have kids, right 533 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: because I've not been through that. I don't know what 534 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: that feels like. When I go through it, I'll figure 535 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: it out and I'll share some So I'm sharing pre marriage, 536 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: getting married. The earlier is in marriage what I'm. 537 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: Learning from that point, which also is a really hard 538 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: part of the marriage. I think, so it is. Our 539 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: first year was quite interesting to say go on. I mean, 540 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: it was just like we waited till we were married 541 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 2: to have sex. We hadn't lived together. My career was 542 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: really kind of started taking off, and he went to 543 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: grad school, and it was like finding this balance of 544 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: like who we are in so many different aspects, but 545 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: like knowing that divorce is not an option, so it's 546 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: like we have to focus and work on this. And 547 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: nobody they tell you, oh, marriages work, marriages work, but 548 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: nobody can explain it to you because every marriage is 549 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: so different. So it's good to hear that other people 550 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: are explaining their first three years of marriage and the 551 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: struggles that they've been through. Something we did do on 552 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: our Honeymoon actually was read the Five Love Languages. Have 553 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: you read that? I loved that book. 554 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: I've made videos on that book. Yeah, I've made like 555 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: three videos on that book. And I think Gary Chapman's 556 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: a genius. 557 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: What are your languages? 558 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: I believe your love languages based a lot about how 559 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: your parents loved you. Oh iNeST, so my love like. 560 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: You want what your parents didn't give you, or you 561 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: still want what they gave you, both depending on how 562 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: good or brother correct. 563 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: So mine was and this is how I traced it back. 564 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: I love my mom. She's amazing. And when my mom 565 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: was raising me, she sometimes couldn't spend a lot of 566 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: time in me because she was working too. But I 567 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: knew that on my birthday she would always get me 568 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: the gift that I wanted. She would always get it, 569 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: no matter what it was. And we didn't grow up 570 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: with a lot, but she would save up make sure 571 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: that I had it, and she would find it and 572 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: should get it for me, and it would just be 573 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: one thing, but it would always be the one thing 574 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: I most wanted. So, like one year is like Power 575 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: Rangers or something like that, And I realized that I 576 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: associated love with gifts. 577 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: So is that your number one? 578 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: That was my number one love language? Is it giving 579 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: and getting? Yes? So I love giving people grand gestures 580 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: and I love receiving grand gestures. But my wife, her 581 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: number one love language is quality time because her family 582 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: on their birthdays and stuff, would just time spent. Yeah, 583 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: they wouldn't go out to work that day, her dad 584 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: would stay home. They would plan an activity or whatever 585 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: something like that, and so they spend time together. So 586 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: when we met, I was like, where's my gift? Like 587 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: where is it? It's like, do you not love me? 588 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: And I would be giving her these grand gestures and 589 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: gifts on her birthday and she'd be like, I just 590 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: want to spend time with you, and. 591 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I want you to break mine down. 592 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: Go on. 593 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: I'm acts of service? Yes, what does it mean that 594 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: giving out receiving? I like getting acts of service? Like, 595 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: if you want to love me acts of service? 596 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: Well, that's the hardest one, right was amazing is a 597 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: talented man? 598 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: That is I mean it's like the vacuums make the 599 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: best and the thing that I asked you one time 600 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: and it's done. 601 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: Wow, that is impressive. Oh yeah, active service is one 602 00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: of the hardest ones. Oh, so I'm hard. No you're not. No. No, 603 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: So that's me projecting my bias and how scary. That's 604 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: me going, oh my god, I'm so glad that I 605 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: could never do that. I could never live up to that. 606 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: But no, that's beautiful and that's what I mean. That 607 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: you are with a partner who understands that, loves that, 608 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: is able to give that, and that's great. 609 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: Love languages are very important in relationships, and Justin's time 610 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 2: spent and physical touch okay, those are his tops. So 611 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 2: I just know that, like I know what he needs 612 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 2: and you knows what I need. And I think that 613 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: anybody who feels like they're not connecting with their partner 614 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: should read that book. 615 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I love that book. I recommend it 616 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: to everyone. And I think the biggest thing we should 617 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: all notice is until you read that book and until 618 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: you figure out love languages, you are speaking different languages, right, 619 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: and so it's like literally speaking to your partner in 620 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: a language they don't understand, right, And so you could 621 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: be doing everything like for example, for you, you know, 622 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: Justin could be buying you like the best gifts in 623 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: the world and taking on fancy holidays and all this 624 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, but he's not doing acts of service, 625 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: and you're going to be like, well, now, what doesn't 626 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: he love me? Yeah, exactly any and he does. Like 627 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: you may be with someone, anyone who's listening and watching 628 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: this right now. You may have someone who loves you deeply. 629 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: You've just never articulated what your love language is. You 630 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: have to speak up. You have to share it. You 631 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: can't no one can read in between the lines. You 632 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: can't expect that person to figure it out by looking 633 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,239 Speaker 1: at you. You need to tell them this is how 634 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: I feel most loved right This is what I need 635 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: to feel loved. And I see so many couples that 636 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: get scared about saying this or doing this or there. 637 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: It's like hard for your ego because being able to 638 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: have enough vulnerability and openness to say to your wife, 639 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: I need you to tell me I've got this right 640 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: like words of affirmation that I need words of affirmations, 641 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: and you know, the ego goes, oh no, I don't 642 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: really need that for my wife. But you have to 643 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: share it. If you don't tell them that, how are 644 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: they're going to know. You're got to put your ego 645 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: aside and be really open and honest. 646 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 2: Everything you talk about on social media and through your 647 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: videos is so emotional based, and there's just a lot 648 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: of like that inner work, especially like with relationships. But 649 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: what about the physical aspect, like physical like the intimacy 650 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: and all of that. 651 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: Do you ever touch on any of that? 652 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: Ah? 653 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: Let me think I've definitely talked about it from an 654 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: abuse point of view, right, You're talking about from a. 655 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: From well, like when you're married, sex is important, yeah, right, 656 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: And I think that for me, my understanding is like 657 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: you have to have the emotional first before the sex 658 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: can stay consistent, correct and great. 659 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: It's so much easier to talk about that or go 660 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: into that, And that's why I focus so much on 661 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: my content on the other side, right, And my content 662 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: is so heavily focused on the compatibility, on the healing, 663 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: on the deep work, because I'm like, if people get 664 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: this right, they're gonna have an amazing relationships, You're gonna 665 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: have amazing physical Like everything's gonna be great. But when 666 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: you look at all these magazine covers and you always see, like, 667 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, the seven things she wants in bed and 668 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: the three things, and it's always those things. And that's 669 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: what I love about what I've been able to do 670 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: with video is that we've shifted the conversation. The videos 671 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: game millions, millions and millions of views, but we're talking 672 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: about stuff that actually is going to make a difference, 673 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: right Whereas you telling someone like, these are the three 674 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: things she wants in bed, like, that's not going to 675 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 1: change your relationship. If you aren't compatible, if you don't connect, 676 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: if you don't speak the right love languages, if you're 677 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: not empathetic, if you're not vulnerable, like, then that three 678 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: list of this and seven lists of that isn't going 679 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: to do anything. It's void. And that's where I'm trying 680 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: to get to with people, because I don't want people 681 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: to use sex as a substitute for that, and I 682 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: don't want people to use sex as an excuse for that, 683 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: and I don't want people to use sex as a 684 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: cover up for not having any of that, because I 685 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: know having been in tons of relationships where it was 686 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: just physical and that's all there was. That's the only 687 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: time it felt good. It didn't felt good at any 688 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: other time. I didn't go home with a beautiful feeling 689 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: in my heart. And then when it's only about that, 690 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: that's also when it can be easily replaced, right, Because 691 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: that's easily changeable, right, And that's why I think so 692 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: many people go through and I talk about my videos 693 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: so much about cheating and loyalty, because when it is 694 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: just physical, it becomes so much more easier to just 695 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: disconnect and till away it's happened. 696 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: And now heartbreak, Yes, what's your advice on heartbreak? 697 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: I know you. 698 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: You have a video up it's like the five things 699 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: people should do through heartbreak, and one of them is like, 700 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: get rid of everything from the past and only focus 701 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: on the present in the future. I like that's hard 702 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: for people. 703 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: I like getting rid of visual triggers. I think the 704 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: challenge in a lot of our lives is that we're 705 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: surrounded by the same sounds, the same sights, right, and 706 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: the same people that we were in our past. And 707 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: I see this with anything. And I'm sure you felt 708 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: this when you went deeper into your faith. Did your 709 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: circles change? 710 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: Right? 711 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 1: When you went deeper into your faith? Did what you 712 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: look at change? Right? So you look at my heart change, 713 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: your heart changed, but internal lint external? 714 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: Yes, Because for me, when I transformed in my faith, 715 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: it was a transformation of my heart, yes, not about 716 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: what I was actually doing or not doing correct. 717 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: And that's what I feel for anyone, anyone that I've 718 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 1: witnessed and observed go through transformation in their life. Their 719 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: environments have changed, and so for me, a lot of 720 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: us are making it harder for yourself. It's like saying, 721 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: I want to start working out every day, but I 722 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: don't own any trainers. Right, It's like that's not going 723 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: to work. It's like doing the opposite, Like I want 724 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: to go on a diet, but I'm going to keep 725 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: chocolate cake in my refrigerator, right Like it's that. So 726 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: you're saying, I want to get over the past, but 727 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to keep my ex's sweater right next to me, 728 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: and I'm going to keep all these text messages that 729 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: I could keep reading through. 730 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: Again, why do people go back and read text messages 731 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: because from someone that broke their. 732 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: Heart, Because nostalgia and imagination is more powerful, right, the 733 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: feeling of nostalgia, And this is in studies too, Like 734 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: the research by nostalgia is you always think things were 735 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: better in the past with something like that. So you 736 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: read a message, You're like, oh, but they love me 737 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: so much and now, what you're doing is reality is here, 738 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: and you've got your own version of reality playing here. 739 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: So you're basically writing your own movie script up here 740 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: when reality is telling you this, and nostalgia is that script. 741 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: That fantasy that's never going to be. 742 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: That fantasy that isn't real. So it's you saying I 743 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: don't want to accept what is, and I'm trying to accept. 744 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: What if those people who can't get over that hump? 745 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: What do you tell them? One of the biggest things 746 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: like do you really want no? No, no, no, no, it's good, 747 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: it's a good conversation. I think one of the biggest 748 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: things I say to people is just like, let's kind 749 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: of break their space that they're in. It's almost like 750 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: that person needs a space change and they need to 751 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: get out of that zone. And so for me, I'm 752 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: always encouraging people to start doing new things. I think 753 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: it's so powerful when you go and have a new experience, 754 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: when you try something new, you join a new class, 755 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: you've never done it before, because guess what, it's about 756 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: finding yourself again. So you're now learning new things about yourself. 757 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: You're now falling in love with yourself. It's about falling 758 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: in love with you correct, And I think that the 759 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: biggest mistake we make in that time is everyone's telling you, oh, 760 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: when's the rebound, Like are you going to date this guy? 761 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: When are you going to start dating again or this girl? 762 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: When you're going to be out there again? And it's 763 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: almost like, well, no, maybe it's about I go inside 764 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: this time and spend some time with myself. And I 765 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: think new experiences are a beautiful way of doing that, 766 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: because you only learn new things about yourself when you 767 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: do new things with yourself right free. You never, like, 768 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: we never do new things with ourselves. You're always you're 769 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: always doing the same things with the same people. But 770 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: imagine you start doing new things on your own, and 771 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: now you have new memories. And one of the things 772 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: I've been talking about a lot with people is forming 773 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: new memories. If you don't make new memories, the old 774 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: ones will always hold you back. And that's why we're 775 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: stuck in the old because we're not making any new ones, 776 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: so the old ones just keep pulling you back. So 777 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: the best way to make new memories is a set 778 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: up an experience do with a friend that you love, 779 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: and when you go out there, it's this technique that's 780 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: often used for grounding and therapy and everything, but I 781 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: use it for presents and that's how we were trained 782 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: in it as monks. When you go somewhere and you're like, 783 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: I want to take a mental picture of this. How 784 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: many times have you ever said that? Where you go somewhere, 785 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: you're like, I want to have this in my mind 786 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: and I want to keep it forever, and the iPhone 787 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: camera is not and the camera is not going to 788 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: do it. It's not going to keep it emotionally. And 789 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: I think we're so bad at creating emotional memories that 790 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: are new. So the best way to do it is 791 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: called five four three two one. Okay, So when you're 792 00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: in a space and let's say I want to do 793 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: it this, I look at five things that I can see, 794 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: So five things that I can see right now. So 795 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to say, you obviously important part of the memory. 796 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: You're important too. Yeah, Yeah, I'm doing it with you. 797 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm going to say the rug, So I'm getting 798 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: for space. You're going to look at the ceiling, so one, two, three, four, 799 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to say, the couch. There five things that 800 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: I can see. The second thing is four things that 801 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: you can touch. Okay, so four things I can touch my. 802 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: Silky dress, really dry skin. You're good at descriptions, silky dress, 803 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: dry skin, this is good. Texted ro yes and oh yeah, amazing. 804 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: Three things that you can hear. I can hear the light, yes, 805 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: I can hear myself swallow, and I can hear your 806 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: voice perfect. 807 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: And then two things that you can smell. 808 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: I can smell my garlic breath. I'm having a hard 809 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 2: time smelling basically anything because you can hear how clogged 810 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: I am. Yeah, me too, but maybe my perfume. 811 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: Okay. And then one thing about me. Yeah, no, that's 812 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: and the one thing you can taste garlic. Great. So 813 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: if you did that in an experience, then all you 814 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: have to do to make a mental picture, to take 815 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: a mental picture of everything you do. Five four, three 816 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: to one. Five things you can see, four things you 817 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: can touch, three things you can hear, two things you 818 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: can smell, and one thing you can taste. I really 819 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, it's beautiful. And this is what I 820 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: mean by when you're going through a breakup, the biggest 821 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: mistake you make is the old memories hold you back 822 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: because you don't know how to make new memories. And 823 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: so my advice to everyone is go and make new memories. 824 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So I did Tony Robbins right, and it was 825 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: the lightning. It was fun and the biggest thing that 826 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: I came away with was I don't live in the present. 827 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: I'm constantly living for the what's next. Yes, here we go, 828 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: you know, okay, team, it's time to hustle. And he 829 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: said what are you grateful for? And I mean I 830 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 2: could sit there and say, I'm grateful for my health, 831 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: I'm grateful for my family, I'm great, you know, like 832 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: I could list a few things, but he said, what 833 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: are you grateful for in your career? And it's like 834 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: I had to really go so deep. And I think 835 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: that maybe if I started doing in the five four 836 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 2: three two one, I would be able to go back 837 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: to experiences that I thought my heart remembered, but my 838 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: mind did it totally. And I am totally implementing five 839 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 2: fourth three. 840 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what it's so today it's used for 841 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: a lot of people who struggle with anxiety to bring 842 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: them back into the moment. When we were trained in 843 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: as monks, it was what we did for presents, like 844 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: is Zellie what you said. And this is why the 845 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: biggest mistake we make is when you're having an experience, 846 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: the only sense we activate is the eyes. And that's 847 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: where when you're trying to think of a past memory, 848 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: you go, what was it again? Because you have to 849 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: close your eyes because that was the only one that 850 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: was activated. Whereas what we've done with five four three 851 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: to one is you've now absorbed this memory through all 852 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: the five senses, which means each one of them is 853 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: going to give you a different bond. And I like it. Yeah, wow, 854 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: all right, switching gears a little bit. 855 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 2: I really feel like insecurities breed negativity, right, And a 856 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 2: model that I like to live by is kill people 857 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 2: with kindness. What do you think about that? 858 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: Yeah? I love that. I agree with you completely. This 859 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: is the beautiful thing that happens when you say thank 860 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: you to someone who's kind to you. It does three things. 861 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: The first thing is you recognize kindness, So now you're 862 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: triggering your mind to start recognizing kindness and you're not 863 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: recognizing kindness in them. The second thing you do is 864 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: you reinforce kindness in them. They realize they're like, oh, 865 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: when I'm kind people appreciate it, so I'm going to 866 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: be more kind. So you've now reinforced kindness within them. 867 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: And the third thing is you help them repeat it. 868 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: Now that you've shown them that their kindness is reciprocated, 869 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: they're now going to be kind to more people. So 870 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: when you recognize kindness in someone, it reinforces that belief 871 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: that kindness is amazing, and then they repeat that kindness 872 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: to other people. So now you've started this domino effect 873 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: of kindness just by thanking one person who knew. 874 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: It's so interesting to hear you talking about being a 875 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: monk and like how you spend half the day working 876 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 2: on yourself and half of the other day working to 877 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: give out to others. What is your take on putting 878 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: yourself first? And like is it selfish? 879 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: So with monkey teachings, the point is you are taking 880 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: care of yourself first in order to serve better. So 881 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: it's always like I'm going to put myself first so 882 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: that I can fill up so that I can serve 883 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: with more it because we want to serve with our 884 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: best selves. I always say this people. It's like people 885 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: just like Jay, should I go to this party? Should 886 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: I go oud to this event? Should I call up 887 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: this person, Should I do this? Should I do that? 888 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, if you're going to show up 889 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 1: there with that energy where you're gonna have to convince 890 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: yourself to go, then guess what that person's going to 891 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: feel that, right, is if you're want to show up 892 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: and you're gonna show up with your best So I 893 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: feel for me, it's not selfish. If the intention is 894 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: I want to give more and serve more, that's good. 895 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 1: It's selfish when it's just like, oh, I'm just gonna 896 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: take care of myself because that's all that matters. Right 897 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: where it's just like, no, I'm gonna take it on 898 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: myself because I want to give my best self to 899 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: the people I love, to the people of the world, 900 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: to the people I care for, and so I'm going 901 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: to keep prioritizing myself. So I went down the wrong journey. 902 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: When I first started wanting to serve, I used to 903 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 1: just think, Oh, I'm going to stay up all night. 904 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: Someone needs me to drive halfway across the country, I'll 905 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: do that. And I would do things like that, and 906 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: I started to realize I was just people pleasing. I 907 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: wasn't serving. I was actually serving my own ego. That 908 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: was the most selfish thing. Interesting, it was the most 909 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: selfish thing because it's just people pleasing. But then I realized, 910 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: actually me saying, look, you know what, I need to 911 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: go a good night's sleep tonight, but I promise you 912 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: first in the morning, we're going to talk about this 913 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: and I'm going to bring my best self to this conversation. 914 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: People started to respect that and value that and gave 915 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: me that space. And so for me, as long as 916 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: your intention is clear that you're putting yourself first so 917 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: you can give more, that's the best thing you can do. 918 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: Because I don't want to die early because I'm negligent 919 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 1: of my health, because I mean, you're going to serve 920 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: less in the long term. 921 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: And have you noticed this shift on social media where 922 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: it feels like we're all kind of competing in the 923 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 2: self care Olympics. What do you feel like that pressure 924 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 2: is that for everybody just to like look and feel centered. 925 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing that people are now 926 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: starting to realize that fatigue is not a badge of honor, 927 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: that you're only successful if you feel that way at 928 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: the end of the day. But I think this is 929 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: what always happens in the world. Balance only comes when 930 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: we go from one extreme to the other extreme. So 931 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: at one point, maybe a few years ago, I don't 932 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: know how long, people were always like, you have to, 933 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, grind and hustle, and that's the only thing 934 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: about success. And you have to work hard. And if 935 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: you're not tired, then you're never going to be successful. 936 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: You're never going to be a millionaire, billion or whatever 937 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: it is. And I think that was the talk. And 938 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: now the talk's gone the other way. If you're not 939 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: getting a message every week and you're not you know, 940 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: sleeping eight hours and massages, yes, exactly, and then it 941 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,439 Speaker 1: goes to the other extreme. And that's how the world 942 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: gets back into balance. Right, And we know the answers 943 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: the middle, right, We know that you need to feel 944 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: a bit stretched in order to work on yourself. You 945 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 1: need to work on yourself to stretch yourself a little more. 946 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: And life is never the perfect middle. It's constantly back 947 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 1: and forth. And I think that's the mistake. We're looking 948 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: for middle, or we're looking for extreme, and actually it's 949 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: just back and forth. It's just oscillating. I'm never at 950 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: a point where I'm like, oh my life is in 951 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: perfect balance, because balance is a myth. 952 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 2: What are three pices for self care that you live 953 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 2: by or that you give as examples? 954 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 1: One of my favorite ones is what I talk about 955 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: emotional vocabulary. So Harvard and you can google this has 956 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: this great table and it shows how limited our emotional 957 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: vocabulary is. So what I mean by this is if 958 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: someone asks you, how's your week been? That's all right? 959 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: All right? Good? Bad? Fine? Okay? Right, how's your wee 960 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: going good? How's your day been? Okay? How are you 961 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: doing tonight? Fine? Right? That's literally how we describe our lives. 962 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes I say so good, I love it good. At 963 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: least you've got an expansive emotional vocabulary so expensive, but 964 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: our emotional vocabulary so limited. Now there's a challenge here. 965 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: We don't get to understand how we truly feel because 966 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: we never articulate and express it. So when you say 967 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: that you're angry, are you offended? Are you irritated? Are 968 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: you defensive? There's so much more to the word angry 969 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: than just anger. Or when you say I'm sad. When 970 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: you say you're sad, are you upset? Are you regretful? 971 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: Are you triggered? Right? There's just so much more. When 972 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: you self diagnose and you limit your vocabulary, you're just like, oh, 973 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm just sad, I'm just angry, and which means that 974 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: you can't articulate to yourself what you're really dealing with, 975 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: and you can't articulate to a friend what you're dealing with, 976 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: so you don't feel understood. And feeling understood is such 977 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: an important part of self care. The feeling that I 978 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: can articulate what I'm really going through and someone understands me. 979 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: That's huge for self care. I think it's one of 980 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: the most important things of self care. When you look 981 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: at someone and you feel they really get me. Isn't 982 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: that so good for your confidence and your self worth 983 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: and your significance. You like that feel loved exactly all 984 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: in one moment. So for me, that's one of the 985 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,439 Speaker 1: best self care techniques is when I'm struggling with something, 986 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: let me not settle for the base level emotion, let 987 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: me really understand it. And then if you're speaking to 988 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: a therapist, you're speaking to your adoptor you're speaking to 989 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: your friend, you can now actually articulate it better so 990 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: they can actually help you back Wow, and you full understood. 991 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: The second yeah, The second self get that I absolutely 992 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: love is how we talk to ourselves, right, and so 993 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: this to me is probably the biggest one. One thing 994 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: I was talking about is I looked at the definition 995 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: of confidence, and I've never done this, but I love. 996 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 2: Literally I haven't either. I've never talked about confidence all 997 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 2: the time. 998 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: So I told I look at the definition and it 999 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: starts off by talking about self assurance and you think, okay, yeah, 1000 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: that's what I imagine when confidence. And then it says 1001 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: and it's the appreciation of one's own abilities and qualities, 1002 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 1: which blew my mind. Notice it didn't say receiving appreciation 1003 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: for your qualities self. Yeah, appreciation of one's own abilities 1004 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: and qualities, not the appreciation of others, not the validation 1005 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: of our there's not the approval of others. 1006 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 2: But that's why you can say I have confidence in you, 1007 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 2: correct or I have confidence in myself correct. 1008 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, And so the way we talk to ourselves 1009 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: is all over the place. It's key. When you're going 1010 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: out to a party, you dress up and you look 1011 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: at the person and you go, how do I look 1012 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: in this? And I'm like, no, ask yourself, how do 1013 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: I look in this like how do I feel in this? 1014 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 1: Or when you go to an interview people say how 1015 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: would people describe me in three words? It's like, why 1016 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: do we care about how people would describe it? How 1017 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: would I describe myself in three words? And so for me, 1018 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: the way we talk to ourselves is such a big thing. 1019 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: So I have this mechanism that I love coaching people 1020 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: on and sharing with people. It's called spot stop swap 1021 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,919 Speaker 1: spot my British accent. Okay, spot spot a spot of tea. 1022 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: Spot stop stop swap swap. Yeah. So every time that's 1023 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,760 Speaker 1: very good, that's very very and I'm not even that partial, 1024 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: but you made me sound really fush. 1025 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 2: I I love it. 1026 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: I feel like we need to hold a bit of tea. 1027 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: But spot stop swap. So every time you notice yourself 1028 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: say something negative to yourself, oh, spot it first, start 1029 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 1: spotting that pattern because that's all it is. It's a pattern. 1030 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: And we don't realize how much the words we say 1031 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: to ourselves have an impact. That when you say something 1032 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: like yourself like oh I'm starving. Right when you say that, 1033 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: guess what your body gets triggered into feeling like it's starving. Son. 1034 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: So do I That's what I'm picking on this example, 1035 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: Whereas what you actually mean is I've been lazy, I 1036 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: haven't planned my meals, i haven't eaten for two three hours, 1037 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: and you're saying I'm starving. Starving is the person who 1038 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: doesn't know where their next meal is coming from. You're 1039 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: just hungry and disorganize. And so when we say to myself, 1040 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, rather than saying I'm going to make time 1041 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,919 Speaker 1: for a nap today or I'm going to sleep earlier today, 1042 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: you're saying the same thing. But what you're saying is changing. 1043 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: It's a spot first, spot that pattern. One of the 1044 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: things I think a lot of people say to themselves 1045 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: is I'm not good enough. I'm ugly, I'm not beautiful. 1046 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: She's beautiful, he's really good looking, he's got a great body, 1047 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: she's whatever. And if you spot that, where is that happening. 1048 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: It's usually happening when you're browsing through social media. So 1049 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: now let's stop. Let's limit the time you spend in 1050 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: that place with that person. Whatever it is that's sparking 1051 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: and triggering that thought, Let's limit that time and then 1052 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: let's swap it for something better. So what am I 1053 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: going to swap that with. I'm going to listen to 1054 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: Ashley's podcast. I'm going to read this book that actually recommended, 1055 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: called The Five Love Languages. I'm going to go to 1056 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: a class that I've been wanting to go to, or 1057 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 1: a workshop or whatever it may be. Like, you've now 1058 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,240 Speaker 1: opened yourself up to swapping it to spot stop swap 1059 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: to start to spot the patterns the way you talk 1060 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: to yourself that are bringing you down. Start stopping being 1061 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: in those places and times that spark that thought because 1062 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: there's usually an alignment, and then swap it, upgrade it 1063 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: for something higher. Yeah that's good. 1064 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't say it three times fast though. 1065 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: Spot stops. Yeah. So that's That's really my second one 1066 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: and my third one. This is probably one of my 1067 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: favorite ones right now. And I think we've been told 1068 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: for a long time that you're the average of the 1069 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: five people who spend most time with We've had that 1070 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: again and again and again, and everyone's always like, get 1071 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 1: together with people and be like and stuff. And I've 1072 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: been thinking about that a lot lately, and I was 1073 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: a lot of my friends were saying, you know, je, 1074 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: I'm always around people, but I still feel lonely. I 1075 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard there people like I'm busy, 1076 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: but I'm lonely. I'm around people, especially here in LA 1077 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: and New York, right, Yeah, and you feel that people 1078 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: feel lonely. And I said, the challenge is we need 1079 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: to stop getting together and when you start growing together. 1080 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,240 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, schedule one experience 1081 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: once a week with a friend. Well, you're both growing together. 1082 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: Choose an activity that neither of you are a proa. 1083 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: So don't go to yoga class if one of you 1084 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: is a yoga enthusiast and the other is it. Go 1085 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: somewhere where there's a level playing field. Why because you 1086 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: now get a fresh experience together. It's so good because 1087 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 1: it boosts your confidence. So you're bad totally. And because 1088 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: you're going together and you're both bad, there's no pressure. 1089 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: And my best memory of this is once for training, 1090 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 1: I was sent to Chicago and it was eighty of 1091 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: us who'd never worked together. This was when I joined 1092 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: a corporate company. Eight of us were sent to Chicago 1093 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: for training, but we were told it was Chicago, but 1094 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: actually we were two hours outside of Chicago, in the 1095 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, and we'd be at training nine am 1096 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: to six pm, and then at six pm it was 1097 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: too late to get into Chicago, so we'd have to 1098 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: do something. And the only thing we could do is 1099 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: play sport because there are all these outdoor sports places. 1100 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: Ten of us every night would go out and we 1101 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 1: played volleyball in the snow. None of us had ever 1102 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 1: played volleyball before. I could pick up the phone to 1103 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: any of these people today because we all just had 1104 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: this crazy unique experience together and you're learning something together. 1105 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: I think we underestimate this. Learning something every day is 1106 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: huge for your self care because you only feel good 1107 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 1: about yourself when you feel your progressing. So I started 1108 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: this really simple habit and it's learning a new word 1109 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: every single day. 1110 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 2: Oh oh, I've been writing down in my notes. 1111 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: Woh I love this. Okay amazing. So literally learning a 1112 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,839 Speaker 1: new word everything. And you may say, yeah, I want 1113 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: to learn a new city, or I want to learn 1114 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: about a new culture, or I want to learn about 1115 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: a new cuisine, or I want to learn, but make 1116 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 1: it small and something you can achieve, like in three minutes. 1117 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: And so my word today was maraki mr aki. Yeah, 1118 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 1: And what it means is to do something with soul 1119 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: or to create and leave a piece of you in it, 1120 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: in what you create. And what I love about that 1121 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: word is, now I've shared that with you. We're not 1122 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: having a discussion about it. You've now contributed to a conversation. 1123 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: Your self worth gets boosted because you've learned something new, 1124 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 1: You've proved to yourself you can remember and share it. 1125 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: Those are just some answers straight away that came to 1126 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 1: my mind. Practices that I think are really simple. 1127 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 2: They are simple. Explain them because I think some people 1128 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 2: just rattle things off and they don't go into explanation, 1129 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 2: and I think that's really important. I think that a 1130 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 2: lot of people are looking for peace. What do you 1131 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 2: say to those people who are just in search of peace? 1132 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked this. So the tagline of my 1133 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: book is called train your mind for peace and purpose 1134 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: every day. 1135 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 2: Wow. 1136 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: I believe that it's something that can be trained, and 1137 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: I believe it's something that you have to take responsibility for. 1138 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: The world around you is never going to be fully peaceful. Ever, 1139 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: even if there was world peace, you would still not 1140 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: have peace. With a little argument with your partner or 1141 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: a little issue at work. That's never going to disappear. 1142 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: So the desire for everything around you to be calmed 1143 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: is a wishful thought that doesn't have an end, whereas 1144 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: the feeling of wanting to create calm and peace within 1145 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: is very realistic. And the point is that that piece 1146 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: is always going to get triggered. And I think that's 1147 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: the mistake we make. We're looking for this perfect, consistent, 1148 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,879 Speaker 1: never touched definition of piece, whereas piece is something you're 1149 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,479 Speaker 1: constantly training yourself to look for. So what I would 1150 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,879 Speaker 1: say is that people should try and find the one 1151 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: activity they have in their day that brings them peace. 1152 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 1: It could be sitting and having them warning tea. It 1153 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: could be sitting and reading from a book they love. 1154 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 1: It could be having a beautiful conversation in their partner. 1155 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 1: Whatever it is, just have one activity a day that 1156 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: brings you peace. In my book, obviously I talk about 1157 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,760 Speaker 1: a lot more than that, but to find just something 1158 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: that brings you peace. It could be a mindset that 1159 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: brings you peace. So I really believe that all stress, 1160 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: pressure or lack of peace comes from your mind being 1161 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: ahead of your body, or your body being ahead of 1162 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: your mind. So how many times have you been in 1163 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: a scenario or your mind's like racing really really fast, 1164 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: and your body's like, oh, I just want to be 1165 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: in bed, right, right. Everyone been in that situation, yeah, 1166 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: Or you're in the opposite scenario where your body is 1167 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: moving really really fast doing a lot, but your mind's like, oh, 1168 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm still want to be in bed. 1169 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 2: Oh that was me, yes, true, right, right. 1170 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: So we've all experienced both. 1171 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 2: You get into all this in your book, don't you. Yes, Oh, 1172 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 2: I can't wait. 1173 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 1: To get it. So the alignment of the two is 1174 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: what creates peace. Let's say why I did. I was 1175 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: running late today and I'm stressing. I'm like, I haven't 1176 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: thought about this, and I don't know what it's about. 1177 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 1: And maybe i'm you know, all that stuff that we 1178 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: know that you'd be stressed about when you're running to 1179 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: work and I'm sitting in the back of a lift 1180 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: or uber or I'm driving and I turn up to 1181 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: the meeting. 1182 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 2: Because you live in LA and you can draft correct. 1183 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 1: So what I would do is I sit down and 1184 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: I breathe in for the same count that I breathe out. 1185 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,320 Speaker 1: So I breathe in for account of four and those 1186 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: through the nose, out through the mouth, and I breathe 1187 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: out for account of four. Now, when you breathe in 1188 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: for the same amount of time as you breathe out, 1189 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: you're lining your body and mind. Why because your mind 1190 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: is counting one two three four and your body in 1191 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: unison is breathing in and out one two three four. 1192 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 2: This is very similar to hypno birth things. 1193 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 1: Yes, oh oh no, I didn't know that I was. 1194 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 2: What they're teaching me through like going through contractions and things. 1195 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 2: It's amazing because it like it connects your body and 1196 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 2: your mind and it helps you deal with any kind 1197 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 2: of stress. Yes, and because I'll be going through physical 1198 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 2: stress correct, it's going to help me through that. 1199 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 1: Amazing. Yeah, I love that. And that's the point that 1200 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: whenever your mind or body are ahead or behind of 1201 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: each other, that's where you feel a lack of peace, right, 1202 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: And so you find peace when you come back into alignment. 1203 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 1: So Gandhi said, when what you think, what you say, 1204 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: and what you do are align, then you'll feel peace 1205 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 1: and harmony. 1206 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 2: I'm excited for more J. Shetty knowledge. 1207 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, you're very kind. 1208 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 2: No, you're kind. 1209 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: You're very kind, honestly, And I really love our conversations 1210 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: because a you ask an amazing question as well. Be 1211 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: you make it very fun to be around me, and 1212 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: see I'm just so impressed. Right, oh, I am blown away. 1213 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 2: Thank you for being here having me. But before I 1214 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 2: let you go, there's one thing that we do at 1215 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 2: the end of every pretty big deal. Everybody kind of 1216 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 2: freaks out. You don't have to get up and do 1217 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 2: but you have to answer a couple of questions. We 1218 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 2: do the live body lightning round. What's the last pretty 1219 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 2: penny you spent? 1220 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: Ooh? Probably these? 1221 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 2: Oh those are good. He's lifting up his ship. These 1222 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 2: are nice trainers. What's your biggest deal breaker on in 1223 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 2: any scenario? 1224 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: No? Intention? Oh that's good. If I don't feel someone 1225 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 1: as an intention, it doesn't have to be right or wrong, 1226 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,919 Speaker 1: because I think that's subjective. Right. 1227 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 2: But it's like it's like an empty question. 1228 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: Correct, Like where's the heart? Is there? Any heart? Is there? Soul? 1229 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: Is there intention to this? Or is it just because? 1230 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: All right? 1231 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 2: And because we're on pretty big deal and you're a 1232 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,720 Speaker 2: pretty big deal, I want to know what's a pretty 1233 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 2: big deal to you. 1234 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm not used to being on the other side of these. 1235 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 1: I ask a lot of this questions. 1236 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 2: I put it on the other side. 1237 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: I know you were great. A pretty big deal to 1238 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: me is being able to make really meaningful friendships after 1239 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: thirty years old. As we get older, I think it's 1240 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: hard to build really deep, meaningful relationships. A pretty big 1241 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 1: deal to me is finding really meaningful, deep, beautiful relationships 1242 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: that are genuine, authentic that I could pick up the 1243 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 1: phone too in a tough time, that would call me 1244 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,240 Speaker 1: in a tough time. Yeah, I put that above everything. 1245 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 2: That's a good point there, Jay, Thank you so much 1246 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 2: for coming on. Thank you, Neil. I really appreciate you. 1247 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: This sears. Thank you. This is so much fun. It was. 1248 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: I love this. Check this out. On an average commercial flight, 1249 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 1: the captain has the autopilot engaged about ninety percent of 1250 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 1: the time, and some psychologists estimate that we make about 1251 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:04,240 Speaker 1: ninety percent of our desc decisions similarly on autopilot without thinking. 1252 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,800 Speaker 1: But unlike an airline pilot, when we take our hands 1253 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: off the controls, we don't usually end up where we 1254 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 1: want to go. But don't worry. There's a simple way 1255 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: that we can stay dialed In the next seven minutes 1256 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 1: are about intention and adding direction to the choices you 1257 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:30,439 Speaker 1: make in life. I'm Jay sheddy, Welcome to the Daily Jay. Now, 1258 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,720 Speaker 1: before we take off, let's pause and take three deep 1259 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:43,879 Speaker 1: breaths to help us get centered. Breathing in and breathing out, 1260 00:55:46,680 --> 00:56:02,399 Speaker 1: inviting inward and releasing outward, opening up and settling in. Now, 1261 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: let me tell you a story. Before I started high school, 1262 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 1: if you'd have asked me what my worst subject was, 1263 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: I'd have said art, no question. But then I met 1264 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: mister Buckerridge. He was an art teacher in my school, 1265 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: Tall and thin, and I remember how he always wore 1266 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 1: these red checked shirts and knit ties. I also remember 1267 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: something mister Buckridge would do that really bugged me, at 1268 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 1: least at first. He'd stroll around the room looking at 1269 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 1: our work, and each time he'd stop at my desk 1270 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 1: and ask me this question why, like, why had I 1271 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:49,800 Speaker 1: decided to use that color combination? I don't know. I'd say, 1272 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 1: because it looks cool. Mister Buckrage would shake his head, 1273 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: that's not a real reason. He always pushed me to 1274 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: really think things through, to be clear about my choices, 1275 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: and honestly, that's where I first learned the power and 1276 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 1: the importance of intentionality. That lesson has helped me throughout 1277 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: my life and it's one that can help you too. 1278 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: When I left high school, art had gone from being 1279 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: my worst class to my best. But it wasn't because 1280 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: I got good at painting or drawing. I didn't. I'm 1281 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 1: still terrible at them. It's because I learned to look 1282 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: at the world through the lens of intention. And now today, 1283 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: if I'm launching a new project, or even just decorating 1284 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: my office, at every step along the way, I know 1285 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 1: my why. When we ask why, it's like turning on 1286 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 1: a light in a dark room. We're no longer just 1287 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: feeling our way around, hoping we'll eventually find the door. Instead, 1288 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 1: we have a vision and an direction. It also ensures 1289 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 1: that we're living with purpose instead of being driven by 1290 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: unquestioned impulses or unexamined emotions. That we're not living life 1291 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 1: on autopilot or playing follow the leader. Why is an 1292 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to check in with yourself to make sure that 1293 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: your actions align with your values and your priorities. Here's 1294 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 1: a simple, yet profound exercise today. At each decision point 1295 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: you encounter, as you contemplate your choice, pause and ask 1296 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: yourself why. Okay, it doesn't have to be every decision 1297 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: considering how many we actually make in a day, but 1298 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 1: try to do it for a few hours. Why am 1299 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 1: I having cereal for breakfast? Why am I opting to 1300 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 1: wear this shirt? Why am I stopping to buy a 1301 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 1: coffee on my way to work? And why did I 1302 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 1: choose this coffee shop? Remember answers like because it's cool 1303 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 1: or because I always do? We'll get the mister buckrage buzzer. 1304 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,919 Speaker 1: Challenge yourself to go deeper. You might be surprised at 1305 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 1: what you discover and how being more thoughtful and deliberate 1306 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 1: impacts your life. I know it may seem like a 1307 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 1: little thing, but asking yourself why gives you back the 1308 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 1: controls so you can fly with direction and intention. And 1309 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: with that in mind, let's practice our intentionality as we 1310 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: turn to our meditation. First, yet comfortable wherever you are, 1311 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 1: and be purposeful about what that means for you in 1312 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 1: this moment. During this practice, you shouldn't do anything just 1313 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: because it's what you usually do. Instead, be very deliberate, 1314 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: so eyes open or closed and consider why you're making 1315 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: that choice. Tune into your breath here and you can 1316 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: keep flowing along with your natural rhythm or mindfully breathe 1317 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: a little deeper. Feel free to hold your attention on 1318 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 1: your breath or consciously shift your awareness somewhere else, like 1319 01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: a sensation in your body or a sound in the environment. Now, 1320 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 1: take a moment to think about your day so far. 1321 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 1: Why are you where you are right now? Why are 1322 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: you listening to the Daily Jay? Why are you listening 1323 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:38,000 Speaker 1: at this time of day, in this place? And now 1324 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: let's open this up. How often do you do things 1325 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 1: with clarity of purpose and intention? And how often would 1326 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:55,840 Speaker 1: you say you're an autopilot as you moved through life? 1327 01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 1: When and where could you ask yourself why? How could 1328 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 1: this transform your life for the better? Personally? My wife 1329 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 1: for the Daily Jay is very clear. I'm incredibly motivated 1330 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,959 Speaker 1: to help others live their most mindful lives. I hope 1331 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 1: mister Buckerrage would be proud. Thanks for being here, and 1332 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow.