Speaker 1: Hell I Suck At Dating with Dean Angler and Dared
Speaker 1: Haven and I Heart radio podcast. All right, welcome to
Speaker 1: help I Suck At Dating, a brand new episode in
Speaker 1: two say, is our second third of the year. I'm
Speaker 1: losing track of time. I'm about to have a kid,
Speaker 1: so that's pretty excusable. I'm Jared, joined by Dean Angler,
Speaker 1: who's currently recording in some car. I don't know if
Speaker 1: if it's his own, but the mic is looking like
Speaker 1: it's hanging on by a thread. It's just like my life.
Speaker 1: Everything is hanging on by a thread, but hanging on nonetheless.
Speaker 1: And what are you doing? Where are you and what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Well? You guys. I was very close
Speaker 1: to calling and sick for this podcast. Today it's the
Speaker 1: best powder day of the season at Bridge Bowl in Bozeman, Montana,
Speaker 1: So I'm taking an hour break to record my favorite
Speaker 1: podcast in the world. That's because he's a Trooper. And
Speaker 1: we're joined by a very very, very very special guest
Speaker 1: who has been on the podcast before. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: and I'm going I'm going to absolutely butcher your last name, Angela,
Speaker 1: to which I apologize, but here we go, Angela, as
Speaker 1: miss Kua, I feel like the last time I was
Speaker 1: on the podcast, we went over this, but it's fine.
Speaker 1: It's been a minute. It's a masqua, which is so
Speaker 1: much prettier than the way I said it. I'm so
Speaker 1: bad at names. It's embarrassing. Honestly, I'm embarrassed by how
Speaker 1: bad I pronounced names. Anyway, Angela, how are you Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the podcast, Okaya, thanks for having me. Um.
Speaker 1: Things are great. Life is very different since the last
Speaker 1: time that I was on the podcast. I'm now in
Speaker 1: a different country, so that I know you're dating a Canadian,
Speaker 1: I am. I'm dating a Canadian. So I've been in
Speaker 1: Toronto since October, just you know, seeing seeing how the
Speaker 1: weather is up here. I'm sure she immigration services yet no,
Speaker 1: because I'm about to be here for six months. So
Speaker 1: we're just you know, I'm figuring it out as I
Speaker 1: I've been talking to ask for it a lot, pout
Speaker 1: advice because she was kind of in the same boat
Speaker 1: when she came here to be with Kevin. So I'm
Speaker 1: keeping it. I'm keeping things legal, you guys, So come
Speaker 1: come mid come mid April. You've got to get back
Speaker 1: into the US before you get to quarterback. I gotta
Speaker 1: figure it out, yeah, or I've got to file some paperwork.
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. Honestly, I'm just trying to get
Speaker 1: through the Christmas in the New Year's and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out later. So when did you get married?
Speaker 1: Is that? I don't know, that's about pressure on you,
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, that's not going to happen. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Can you know for the listeners out there that are
Speaker 1: unaware of your current relationship, because people will have like,
Speaker 1: you were on a bachelor show in Canada, right, So
Speaker 1: I don't think that maybe a lot of the American
Speaker 1: audience I've seen it, So can you like walk us
Speaker 1: through everything? Because I knew a little bit because I
Speaker 1: know Alex was on the show, so he like filled
Speaker 1: me in and I watched a couple of episodes and honestly,
Speaker 1: I loved it. I thought it was so much better
Speaker 1: than the American Paradise Um. But for those that haven't
Speaker 1: seen it, phillis in on what we missed. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I got asked to do a Bachelor in Paradise, Canada,
Speaker 1: and I really wasn't going to do it. I feel
Speaker 1: like after last time, I was just like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm done. With the love dating reality shows. Um, but
Speaker 1: long story short, I just had a meeting with the
Speaker 1: showrunners and they convinced me like like Canadian version is
Speaker 1: way different, Like our viewers want to see love up here.
Speaker 1: We don't want to see like all drama and this
Speaker 1: and this. And I was like, you guys know me,
Speaker 1: I'm always that person. So I was like okay, and
Speaker 1: they really asked, you know, what am I looking for,
Speaker 1: like physically and but more importantly like personality wise, Like
Speaker 1: I just felt like they really cared to see, like
Speaker 1: you know, to make it work for me. And so
Speaker 1: obviously I ended up doing it, and I'm really glad
Speaker 1: I did because I met my boyfriend on the show,
Speaker 1: who is Canadian, um, and he had never done a
Speaker 1: bachelor show before, which I loved. So yeah. So um
Speaker 1: that was fun. And we've been together since June, and
Speaker 1: I've been and not you know, technically living up here
Speaker 1: like officially, but I've been you know, checking it out.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we lived together. Um, so it's been fun. Well,
Speaker 1: so for for the American Bachelor in Paradise especially, you
Speaker 1: have to be a former contestant, probably with like a
Speaker 1: few exceptions. So how did how did he get on
Speaker 1: the show, so he got, um, it's funny. So he
Speaker 1: also models as well. Uh, and so he his agency
Speaker 1: got like a casting call, and he had watched the
Speaker 1: show before and always kind of like made fun of it,
Speaker 1: like you know how guys are when they watched the show.
Speaker 1: Girls do it too, and uh, and he was just like,
Speaker 1: let me just try it out, and you know the
Speaker 1: rest of history. I used to crap on the show constantly.
Speaker 1: And now where I am in a coffee shop that
Speaker 1: literally has Bachelor, that literally has a nice coffee called
Speaker 1: here for the wrong reasons, so oh yeah, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: come on now of course, and then we all have
Speaker 1: another coffee. It's called My favorite is take a moment,
Speaker 1: say your goodbyes. That's my favorite. People actually, when they're
Speaker 1: ordering at the desk, do they go, hey, can I
Speaker 1: get to take your moment? Take a moment say you goodbyes? Please?
Speaker 1: A thousand percent they're videoing it probably say that they
Speaker 1: love every second of it. Are you kidding me? It's
Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony trip to Paradise. Uh. And then especially
Speaker 1: if you're a fan and I'm the one serving you,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's like, oh, what type of milk
Speaker 1: with you a lot, and they're like, if I just
Speaker 1: wanted like a regular black coffee, what would that be
Speaker 1: called black coffee? Basic? Um, So I wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: what do you think is the Angela? What was the
Speaker 1: biggest difference between the Canadian version and the American version?
Speaker 1: Because I actually I did Bachelor in Paradise, Australia a
Speaker 1: few years ago before Ashley and I got together, and
Speaker 1: it was wildly different. Like you know how the American version,
Speaker 1: you're never off camera, you're always if something is happening,
Speaker 1: you are miked up your on camera. That was not
Speaker 1: the case at all down Under. It was you'd stroll
Speaker 1: I'd wake up at ten in the morning, stroll down
Speaker 1: to breakfast. We'd sit down with the entire cast and crew,
Speaker 1: eat breakfast, talk about everything that happened the night before.
Speaker 1: Then around twelve one o'clock they'd finally mike us up,
Speaker 1: put us in camera and be like okay, yeah, kind
Speaker 1: of recap what happened. And it's like, dude, you missed
Speaker 1: all the great juicy conversations already. I guess we'll try
Speaker 1: to give you something. Yeah, oh my gosh, I didn't
Speaker 1: know you did bash up here and ice Australia. That's fun.
Speaker 1: It was fun. I went. I was there for two weeks,
Speaker 1: did not kiss anybody, quite pathetic. I don't know how
Speaker 1: I made it as far as I did, but it
Speaker 1: actually it was at the time, UM not it was.
Speaker 1: It's a long story anyway. I this is about you,
Speaker 1: not me. What was the biggest difference for you, between
Speaker 1: the Canadian version and the American version? UM. I would
Speaker 1: pretty much say exactly what you just said, in the
Speaker 1: fact that I felt like filming the Canadian verse and
Speaker 1: was extremely more laid back. UM. And I also felt
Speaker 1: like producers weren't as like, as involved as they are
Speaker 1: in the US. You have a producer, but they're not
Speaker 1: like you know, in your ears and only constantly like
Speaker 1: they're in the US. But I would say mostly like
Speaker 1: we got to go back to what we had cabins.
Speaker 1: We got to go back to our cabins, like after
Speaker 1: filming in the evening. And I mean we would, honestly,
Speaker 1: we would film kind of late, but not nearly as
Speaker 1: late as in Mexico. But there's no mis in the cabin,
Speaker 1: there's no cameras in the cabin. You wake up, you
Speaker 1: are on a time schedule in the morning, but it's
Speaker 1: so much more relaxed and the fact that you have
Speaker 1: time to decompress as a human. You know, you're going
Speaker 1: through all this like emotional turmoil and we all know
Speaker 1: how that goes. And in the US, you literally never
Speaker 1: get a moment to yourself unless you're in the shower.
Speaker 1: But I felt like even in the shower there was
Speaker 1: a camera up on the wall somehow peeking in, invading.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I feel like it was so nice
Speaker 1: and easy or to keep almost like a level head
Speaker 1: because you did have that moment to just go back
Speaker 1: and like I had two roommates and we just like,
Speaker 1: you know, had girl time and chit chatted and it
Speaker 1: was great and you just felt like you could just
Speaker 1: have a moment, you know. So I would say it
Speaker 1: was much much more relaxed. I really enjoyed it. And
Speaker 1: I also loved the fact that it wasn't so much
Speaker 1: like producers all the time. I mean there's still some producing,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, but it wasn't as like intense. I guess, I,
Speaker 1: for one, would way rather sleep in a cabin in
Speaker 1: the woods than villa on the beach. I actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: as you're in overalls right now, I love overalls. Don't
Speaker 1: bring the overalls into this, Okay, leave the overalls out
Speaker 1: of it. Um. So you you left with Brendan is
Speaker 1: his name, right, So tell us a little about him.
Speaker 1: How did you guys, Like, at what point did you
Speaker 1: guys knew know that you guys were gonna like and
Speaker 1: the show together, leave together, um, and then ultimately be
Speaker 1: boyfriend and girlfriend. Because I watched a few episode in
Speaker 1: the middle I saw Alex, Alex's shining moments, I didn't
Speaker 1: see him. I didn't see all of it. So just like,
Speaker 1: at what points were you like, yeah, this is my guy,
Speaker 1: and then like how how did it all unfold? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well we had. It was really funny because I would
Speaker 1: say from like from the moment Brendan and I met,
Speaker 1: it was just this like thing and everybody could tell
Speaker 1: we were just like I think what the first time
Speaker 1: that we were talking, we were talking so long that
Speaker 1: producers had to be like, guys, go like mingle like
Speaker 1: the new people came, and so we've always just had
Speaker 1: this magnetism. I mean, we didn't have the easiest road.
Speaker 1: I would say whenever we were filming, we um, you know,
Speaker 1: he was a little bit wishy washy, and then I
Speaker 1: went on a date with somebody else, and then he
Speaker 1: and then then we were like, you know, pretty much good.
Speaker 1: And then towards the end he ended up going on
Speaker 1: a date with somebody else, and I was like mmmmm,
Speaker 1: So we always we always were kind of like but
Speaker 1: then at the very end we were like the stable
Speaker 1: couple and everybody else was just falling apart, and so
Speaker 1: we were like, oh, this it's nice. Yeah, So we
Speaker 1: actually ended up being the only couple that left like
Speaker 1: together as like boyfriend girlfriend and together. Yeah, like nobody
Speaker 1: was together at all. What I didn't know that, that's
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Congratulations, Well thanks. I definitely think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of bigger benefit to having like that turmoil for
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, in the very beginning, like
Speaker 1: maybe it's like weaker two then you know like go
Speaker 1: and steady right out of the gates and like fully
Speaker 1: diving on this one person because like you guys had
Speaker 1: the option to date other people. And then like also
Speaker 1: like see how you react when they go on a
Speaker 1: date with another person, and like, as it seemed like
Speaker 1: you alluded to, like you get a little like not upset,
Speaker 1: but like it maybe a little jealous or territorial, and
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, I actually really do like this guy. Um,
Speaker 1: and then that kind of like sets the precedent for
Speaker 1: it later on. So I mean, I think that's definitely
Speaker 1: the method to success out there. Yeah. Well, and it
Speaker 1: also helped because then it's like we were used to
Speaker 1: having like uncomfortable conversations and like listening to each other,
Speaker 1: and it was like, Okay, we we can get through
Speaker 1: this and here, so like we felt like we could
Speaker 1: you know, accomplish and get over hurdles in the real
Speaker 1: world too, because we were already kind of so good
Speaker 1: at communicating and like about issues or just concerns or anything.
Speaker 1: So we were just like, okay, this, you know, this
Speaker 1: helped us grow, even though it's sucked in the moment,
Speaker 1: and helped us grow. So, and everybody who goes through
Speaker 1: a long distance relationship has to come to the moment
Speaker 1: where you decide who's going to move where. So how
Speaker 1: did you decide that you were going to go up
Speaker 1: to Canada rather than him come to the States. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: so we actually kind of both moved. I guess I
Speaker 1: put that in air quotes because so he grew up
Speaker 1: outside of Toronto and then moved to Edmonton, which is
Speaker 1: in western Alberta, Canada. Yeah, and so, um, he's lived
Speaker 1: there for the past couple of years and I obviously
Speaker 1: was in South Carolina for like nine years. And we
Speaker 1: just kind of decided like Toronto was like the middle point,
Speaker 1: like meeting point for both of us because we both
Speaker 1: were like, okay, like there's the industry is up there.
Speaker 1: We're both in that industry. Like it just made sense. Um,
Speaker 1: so we both kind of you know, made a made
Speaker 1: a bit of a move. That's perfect. I think that's
Speaker 1: definitely also the recipe to six six. You got it
Speaker 1: all figured out. Um, you mentioned communication earlier. I got
Speaker 1: one question for you. You're the only couple that have
Speaker 1: left Bachelor in Paradise, Canada together. Was there any conversation
Speaker 1: around leaving engaged? So yeah, I mean we had it.
Speaker 1: We had like our fantasy suite date, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and we had our time to kind of talk, and
Speaker 1: we both knew that like, Okay, we're not ready to
Speaker 1: get engaged. So going into that last like final row ceremony,
Speaker 1: I knew and he knew, like we weren't getting engaged. Um,
Speaker 1: I just take engagement really seriously, like I that's something
Speaker 1: should yeah, well I know, but mostlim people on this
Speaker 1: show don't. Of course they don't. I agree, So, you know,
Speaker 1: from so many names are jumping to my head right now,
Speaker 1: I wish I had the balls to say it. Come on.
Speaker 1: Think certain couple were like, you guys got engaged? Are
Speaker 1: you out of your mind? Yeah? But you know, I
Speaker 1: just I think it's like that's a moment that I've
Speaker 1: looked forward to my entire life. I'm that I'm like
Speaker 1: that girl, you know. I'm sure Ashley was the same,
Speaker 1: you know, she's I feel like, actually and I are
Speaker 1: very similar. We're both like, you know, girly girls, and
Speaker 1: we're romantic, like romantic of people. And I wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that, like you know, this would be forever
Speaker 1: if it's going to be an engagement, and we both
Speaker 1: want to just make sure, like you know, we were
Speaker 1: making the right decision. And I think we feel like
Speaker 1: we did. Feel free to plead the fifth on this one.
Speaker 1: But obviously we know that you dated Clay for a
Speaker 1: little bit. Was there any like outreach from him towards
Speaker 1: you about being on the show or anything like that,
Speaker 1: not directly towards me. Now, I haven't talked about a
Speaker 1: long time, but it sounds like there was something more indirect.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't know. We're not
Speaker 1: we're not talking about it. Okay, okay, she's played in
Speaker 1: the fifth. You can plead the fifth on this one.
Speaker 1: I will never forget the moment that you walked down
Speaker 1: the aisle at Christ and Christ's wedding. That was the
Speaker 1: best moment ever because it was he was down in
Speaker 1: paradise and then you looked stunning, and then you were
Speaker 1: walking down the aisland. You had this like one of
Speaker 1: your eyebrows was raised and you're kind of doing a
Speaker 1: look as if like you say something like you weren't
Speaker 1: actually like that wasn't a unintentional and b you weren't
Speaker 1: even looking in his direction or something like that. As
Speaker 1: that's why I heard, no, we were. We talked about
Speaker 1: this on the podcast last time. That's what it was.
Speaker 1: I swear to you like I didn't do that on purpose.
Speaker 1: And this is the reason is because I remember I'm
Speaker 1: a model, so like you put me on a runway
Speaker 1: or like a straight thing. I go into the auto
Speaker 1: pilot and I'm like, yes, bitch, Oh no, I believe that,
Speaker 1: but I don't care because in my mind, in my fantasy,
Speaker 1: that is why you made the look and it made
Speaker 1: my life, and honestly it was what made it was
Speaker 1: actually thought. She was literally like kidding me in the shoulder, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is awesome. This is what I
Speaker 1: live for. Oh my god. That's fine, Jared. I will
Speaker 1: give that to you. That is, you think whatever you
Speaker 1: want to think. And for the record, you put me
Speaker 1: on a runway with the Paris four inch stilettos, I'm
Speaker 1: going to do the exact same thing. So pay anything
Speaker 1: to say that. I mean, honestly, I probably do it
Speaker 1: for free. Anyways, we're gonna take one quick break and
Speaker 1: we're gonna jump into our hot topic dating headlines that
Speaker 1: just get Jared's blood pumping. So stay through the break,
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. Welcome back to help I suck
Speaker 1: at dating. We course have some hot topics. Angelis sticking
Speaker 1: around with us. The first hot topic I have to
Speaker 1: talk about because it's literally everywhere people are obsessed with
Speaker 1: this story. And I'm curious if Dean you have any thoughts,
Speaker 1: and Angela, if you have any investor in this and
Speaker 1: Hendrick and Bill Hayder have been secretly dating for more
Speaker 1: than a year and it just came out. Now. Anna
Speaker 1: Kendrick is thirty six years old, Bill Hayters forty three.
Speaker 1: Obviously they're both very you know, she's known for Pitch Perfect,
Speaker 1: he's known for SNL and Barry if anybody's seen that show.
Speaker 1: They're both very likable people and now people are freaking
Speaker 1: out that they're together. So my question to both you
Speaker 1: are you guys freaking out? To um? Well, before we
Speaker 1: before we get into this, I just want to say, Angela,
Speaker 1: thanks for the thanks for the laugh. Am I I'm
Speaker 1: drinking a beer right now. You guys thinking I think
Speaker 1: angels laughing at me drinking a beer. I'm skiing. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to drink a beer. Anyway, you have a day.
Speaker 1: This podcast more compelling with the more beers he has.
Speaker 1: You want to know what to I went to the
Speaker 1: restaurant right before coming to the podcast and I got
Speaker 1: myself two beers. So when this beer is empty, I
Speaker 1: got another one, right and back to j questions, I
Speaker 1: refused to plead the fifth um. I love Bill Hayter,
Speaker 1: I like and to Kendrick, I don't really know her
Speaker 1: that well, I was never a Pitch Perfect fan, but
Speaker 1: she also wasn't Frozen, right she was Else's sister or
Speaker 1: my am I wrong? No, you're wrong. That was Kristin Bell.
Speaker 1: Kristin Bell, That's what I'm saying. Kristin Bell's sister in
Speaker 1: the movie was Anna Kendrick. I could I could be
Speaker 1: very wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. But um no,
Speaker 1: I love Bill Hayter. That's pretty cool that they were
Speaker 1: able to keep it secret for a while. I think
Speaker 1: that's like, uh, that just like shows that they're a
Speaker 1: they're serious about it and be they don't want to
Speaker 1: like unnecessary attention, which I just respect the crap out of. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I I just saw that yesterday and I was kind
Speaker 1: of surprised. I'm I like both of them, but I'm
Speaker 1: again like, I'm not super fans of them. I actually
Speaker 1: just saw Bill Hayter. Don't know why. We just turned
Speaker 1: on Pineapple Express. Have you guys seen that movie? Yeah?
Speaker 1: With James. Yeah, I was like, oh, I can't seen
Speaker 1: this reverence and we just turned it on. I forgot
Speaker 1: he was at the beginning of that movie. So funny.
Speaker 1: I don't remember him in that movie. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: talking about it afterwards, but it's so the guy is.
Speaker 1: It's at the beginning. It's like back set in like
Speaker 1: nineteen thirties when they're trying to decide if weed is
Speaker 1: like legal or illegal, and Bill Hayter is like or hater, yes,
Speaker 1: the test subject, and he's in this room like smoking,
Speaker 1: and they're asking him all these questions and he's like
Speaker 1: just doing all this funny stuff. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 1: and then they have killing them. So it sounds about right.
Speaker 1: But I love Bill Hayter. I used to love Bill
Speaker 1: Hayter on SNL. He was one of my favorite actors
Speaker 1: honestly because he always broke character. I love that he
Speaker 1: always left. And then if you guys remember on what
Speaker 1: is It Weekend Report, the one that the two guys
Speaker 1: do there like a news station, but it was Stefan,
Speaker 1: If you guys remember his his character there, Stefan would
Speaker 1: always have the new hotspots in New York. Anyway, nobody
Speaker 1: remembers this. Obviously I'm alone on this one, but if
Speaker 1: you remember it out there, help I suck at dating. Uh,
Speaker 1: people who listen to this podcast let me know, so
Speaker 1: at least I'm not alone. We can like it. According
Speaker 1: to Easton, um also, let's say what we can update.
Speaker 1: Thank you. What's the one of Amy Schumer and Lebron James.
Speaker 1: That one is great too. Bill Hayter love Bill Hayter,
Speaker 1: great headline. I just think it's it's kind of it's
Speaker 1: like in a weird way. It gives me the warm
Speaker 1: and fuzzies. You know. Eastern is just an encyclopedia all knowledge.
Speaker 1: It was called train reacting the movie with Amy Schumer. Um, jed,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about it? The secret relationship for
Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, whatever, I'm indifferent about it. I like it, sure,
Speaker 1: I know what I What I don't get is just
Speaker 1: the overall fan fair. People are like, holyh this is
Speaker 1: the coolest thing ever. I'm more invested in Pete Davidson
Speaker 1: and Kim Kardashian than I am Bill Hayter and Anna Kendrick.
Speaker 1: Maybe that says more about me, but um, you want
Speaker 1: to same though. I feel the same with Jared On.
Speaker 1: I'm way more fascinated with as So. My brother is
Speaker 1: a big like rapp and hip hop fan. He loves
Speaker 1: Kanye West, and on our way up skating today he
Speaker 1: was like, have you heard the new Kanye song. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: I haven't and he's he's like Kanye West talks about
Speaker 1: beating Pete Davidson's ass in his new song and it's hilarious. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. What's it called? I want to listen
Speaker 1: to it. I honestly have no idea. It was blue
Speaker 1: seeing it. I mean, he's lost it for a while.
Speaker 1: But whole can't there be a threat? Like can't isn't
Speaker 1: that comes to it as a threat if you're a
Speaker 1: thread And I guess maybe it could be art. I
Speaker 1: don't really know. Never bet Pete Davidson's ass isn't kind
Speaker 1: of like sixty years old now anyways, there's nothing like
Speaker 1: I I yeah, the whole Kim Kardashian Pete Davidson thing
Speaker 1: is pretty funny to me. Pete Davidson man good for him.
Speaker 1: He's just he's living living life. There was a meme
Speaker 1: out there. There's a meme of Pete Davidson holding Jason
Speaker 1: Momo's hand, and there as if like now he's dating
Speaker 1: Jason Momo single and they're like, Pete Davidson's a savage,
Speaker 1: beautiful people. I know, so he doesn't stop. Um. I
Speaker 1: did want to talk about something. It's not necessarily a
Speaker 1: hot topic, but it's an article that I came across
Speaker 1: when I was reading you know Cosmo, as I do.
Speaker 1: I don't, but I saw this because I was googling
Speaker 1: research for the podcast, and it's this is what dating
Speaker 1: will look like in two. This is an article from
Speaker 1: Cosmopolitan and talks about in the subject is all the love,
Speaker 1: sex and relationship trends to look out for this year
Speaker 1: in twenty two. Would you guys like to hear some
Speaker 1: of the uh please, they're going to be happy? And
Speaker 1: whether you guys agree with these? So they spoke to
Speaker 1: experts from from apps like Hinge Bumble and this third one,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what it is happening? Happen Do
Speaker 1: you know what this is? H A P P N anybody? No.
Speaker 1: I think it means that we're just off the market
Speaker 1: is really all, which means we're pretty much old. Um.
Speaker 1: So this is a cheat sheet, cheat sheet to help
Speaker 1: us prepare for all these trends. In the first one
Speaker 1: is called outer course. So obviously we've all heard of intercourse.
Speaker 1: Now it's time to acquaint ourselves with the not so
Speaker 1: distant cousin, as they call it, outer course which is forecasted. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's apparently a term for forms of non penetrative sex,
Speaker 1: including massages, dry humping. Uh, here's one. Hey, listen, we
Speaker 1: talked about everything here and help us second dating, mutual masturbation,
Speaker 1: and a whole host of other fun and maybe a
Speaker 1: little naughty activities. By exploring forms of sex outside of penetration,
Speaker 1: you're inviting yourself and you're any partner. You have to
Speaker 1: get creative and delve into the wide spectrum of sexual
Speaker 1: experimentation which lies beyond waiting to be discovered. What are
Speaker 1: our thoughts about outer courses? This is gonna be a
Speaker 1: thing that takes off this year, isn't it already? I'm
Speaker 1: shocked right now. I can't get over the fact that
Speaker 1: you guys should mean did you just say that a
Speaker 1: form of sex is massage? Well, they're yeah, they're saying, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I've been Asia a few times. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just kidding. They're saying that apparently this
Speaker 1: outer course is gonna be a trend that takes off
Speaker 1: two which, this outer course is all forms of non
Speaker 1: penetrative sex, including massages. So yeah, according to Cosmopolitan, they're
Speaker 1: saying massage can be sexual. I mean, it definitely could
Speaker 1: be sexual. I was a kid once. I've had a
Speaker 1: O T p h J or two in my lifetime.
Speaker 1: I've always you know what an O T p h J.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me, you don't know what an ot pH
Speaker 1: over the pants over the pants hand? Uh? Yes? And
Speaker 1: eastern goes hell, Yeah, what's it called pocket? Pool? Pocket?
Speaker 1: You're not giving yourself an O T p h J.
Speaker 1: Your partner, yes, but you. But pocket bull is when
Speaker 1: you are playing pool yourself. It's like a solo game.
Speaker 1: Um So, I'm all for the outer course movement. I'm
Speaker 1: not a fan of the mutual masturbation thing that that's
Speaker 1: kind of where I on the line. But everything else,
Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do to like keep the steam and
Speaker 1: the the you know, the the heat alive, I'm all
Speaker 1: for it. Why not? Yeah, I can be a little
Speaker 1: spice up. I mean, you're you're in quarantine at some places,
Speaker 1: like up here at Ontario, we're locked down, so it's
Speaker 1: like stuff, you know, you're you don't want stuff to
Speaker 1: get repetitive, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: it's it's hard for me to imagine the mutual masturbation thing.
Speaker 1: That's like where my brain keeps going towards it. Would
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I guess it would be cool. Um,
Speaker 1: do you guys want to real quick because I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna keep just that one my friend. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: like it could be cool. I guess uh if you're like,
Speaker 1: if the mood is right and you're both just like yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, Like why not, let's just see what happens.
Speaker 1: Um anyway, Uh, that's it. That's all I got. It
Speaker 1: could honestly bring like it's like a little bit of
Speaker 1: spark back because if you've been in a relationship for
Speaker 1: a while and you go like I don't want to
Speaker 1: see you go back to like h g's or whatever,
Speaker 1: like that could like reignite that like oh when we
Speaker 1: first started, like when we were first married or first dating,
Speaker 1: like type of you know what I'm saying. I agree,
Speaker 1: it could be like a spark thing. Yeah. I also
Speaker 1: think I've been I've been steadfast and thinking this for
Speaker 1: a long time. I've even been on record on this
Speaker 1: podcast on saying it. I think just regular good old
Speaker 1: h j's are so vastly underrated because think about it,
Speaker 1: think about it as a young kid, a young man
Speaker 1: growing up, you know, through the ranks or whatever. Um,
Speaker 1: you get yourself to climax, most often with a hand.
Speaker 1: It might be yours, but that way, like when you
Speaker 1: go and get hot and heavy with the girl. Guys
Speaker 1: are always talking about how h s aren't exciting or fun,
Speaker 1: but they're pretty great because that's just like what you're
Speaker 1: most used to up to a certain point, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, a lot of themselves are familiarity comfort.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm one beer in and I'm already talking about
Speaker 1: getting hjs as a child. So this is going really well.
Speaker 1: Get this guy is shot? Where's the tequila? Where is
Speaker 1: that tequila we needed? So the next one so it's
Speaker 1: called consciously single, and the first sentence says that this
Speaker 1: is a riff on conscious uncoupling. Do we know what
Speaker 1: conscious uncoupling is? Because Cosmos seems to think that we
Speaker 1: should know what this is. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I think didn't celebrity couple did? That was like Gwyneth Paltrow.
Speaker 1: It was Gwyneth Paltrow. Good. I think it's just like
Speaker 1: the like fancy term on like we broke up, but
Speaker 1: it's like we can we mutually consciously on couple. It's
Speaker 1: like the ten points for griffinder for Angelo, because yes,
Speaker 1: very good job. So it's a term that's used to
Speaker 1: refer to a relatively relatively amicable marital divorce. It was
Speaker 1: created by Catherine Woodward Thomas two thousand nine as a
Speaker 1: five step process to support the conscious completion of an
Speaker 1: intimate relationship, and it was popularized by Gwyneth Paltrow in
Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen. So yeah, Gwyneth did it. So anyway,
Speaker 1: this is not conscious uncoupling. This is consciously single um,
Speaker 1: which apparently it's going to be a big thing in
Speaker 1: two according to Bumble. Uh. It's a trend that is
Speaker 1: all about embracing the perks of not having a so
Speaker 1: s O. No, jesus, I'm so old. This is so pathetic. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you. Oh did you know what that was? Of course,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get some pressure off of me.
Speaker 1: I was just talking about hand jobs for five minutes,
Speaker 1: so between h dude, I'm not I gotta get used
Speaker 1: to the dating trends like back in Holy crap, I'm
Speaker 1: not caught up. Anyway. This is consciously single. This is
Speaker 1: all about embracing the perks of not having a significant
Speaker 1: other and being more intentionally intentional with where you place
Speaker 1: your romantic energy. Uh so, Bumble said that the pandemic
Speaker 1: has made half of us, apparently cording to a survey,
Speaker 1: realize that it's actually okay to be alone for a while.
Speaker 1: Looking ahead, people are consciously making decision to be single.
Speaker 1: What are our thoughts on this, Like, are people going
Speaker 1: to say, Hey, I'm not looking for a relationship anymore,
Speaker 1: I don't want a significant other, I just want to
Speaker 1: be single. Is that going to take off even further
Speaker 1: this year? Before we answer this question, I want to
Speaker 1: ask Angela a pre question, because you were single for
Speaker 1: the first half of the pandemic and now you're in
Speaker 1: a relationship for the second half whatever whatever the timeline is, right,
Speaker 1: So which of the two experiences have you preferred? I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna say the relationship one, hopefully on friends listening.
Speaker 1: But let's say you got my air ploset. How much
Speaker 1: better is it with or like? I don't know, Like,
Speaker 1: just can you like go over the differences between the
Speaker 1: two of them for your like, in your own opinion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. In the first half of the pandemic, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was single, and it was you know, it was stupid, honestly,
Speaker 1: because trying to date during a pandemic was just like
Speaker 1: just impossible. But then when you were like when it
Speaker 1: was okay to go on dates and stuff, it was like,
Speaker 1: it's so awkward. You're meeting this person for like the
Speaker 1: first time in real life and you have like a
Speaker 1: mask on your face, and it's just like did you
Speaker 1: check your temperature? Like you know, it's just it adds
Speaker 1: an extra layer of awkwardness to dating. Um. And then
Speaker 1: I would say, obviously for the second half, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: in a relationship. I like that a lot better for
Speaker 1: obvious reasons. But like, I'm an extrovert and so I
Speaker 1: don't I don't need a lot of alone time. I
Speaker 1: like to be around people and I like to be
Speaker 1: doing stuff. So it's it's more fun if, like you know,
Speaker 1: we're on lockdown right now, to be stuck in the house.
Speaker 1: You know, with somebody, you can play games, you can want.
Speaker 1: It's more fun to watch movies together because just laugh,
Speaker 1: like whatever, it's so much better. But that's just me personally.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people like their alone time.
Speaker 1: But then some of my friends were like after a while,
Speaker 1: I started to go crazy because they were by themselves.
Speaker 1: Do you ever because it seems like you guys moved
Speaker 1: in very quickly after leaving the show together, right and
Speaker 1: not knocking, because that's basically exactly what Kaitlin and I
Speaker 1: did anyways too. Um do you ever find yourself like
Speaker 1: adjusting uh differently than you expected yourself to? Not really honestly,
Speaker 1: because A I just feel especially like in Toronto, just
Speaker 1: as the city. I felt like I've been here a
Speaker 1: bunch of times before and I really loved it, and
Speaker 1: it just seemed like I transitioned really easily. And then
Speaker 1: as far as living with somebody, um, No, it's really
Speaker 1: weird because I lived by myself for like seven years,
Speaker 1: I think, and so I was nervous that I was
Speaker 1: gonna be like, Okay, this bothers me, Like I have
Speaker 1: my things certain ways, and I mean, of course there's
Speaker 1: like little habits here and there, like he never closes
Speaker 1: the cabinet doors, and I'm just like, you know, those
Speaker 1: are just tiny things. But honestly, it's it's really been
Speaker 1: like kind of seamless, like there hasn't hasn't been one
Speaker 1: big thing that I'm like Oh my god, I wish
Speaker 1: I still live by myself. I haven't thought that that's
Speaker 1: a good time. That's a great sign. Definitely, and definitely
Speaker 1: I appreciate that answer. M Jared. What was your question?
Speaker 1: And I totally forgot. I don't. I don't know that
Speaker 1: single consciously single, that's right, That's what it was. I
Speaker 1: think consciously single is a good thing. I like. I
Speaker 1: think I did that for maybe like six months, maybe
Speaker 1: a little longer than that, and I felt like I
Speaker 1: grew more in those six months, and I had ever
Speaker 1: grown over any period of time in the rest of
Speaker 1: my life. So I think it's always a good thing.
Speaker 1: Helps you prioritize yourself and only yourself, and it allows
Speaker 1: you to figure out what you like and don't like.
Speaker 1: I just think there's something so special about like waking
Speaker 1: up in the morning and the only person you have
Speaker 1: to worry about is you, And by doing that, then
Speaker 1: like you are able to identify the things that make
Speaker 1: you happy in the things that you want, you know.
Speaker 1: So I think everyone should go through that at some
Speaker 1: point or another. Like the serial relationship people, um, I
Speaker 1: like kind of you know, feel bad for because it's
Speaker 1: like you don't really have a true identity of yourself
Speaker 1: because you've always been with someone else's. It's a little extreme,
Speaker 1: but I feel like people were also like saying they
Speaker 1: were like consciously single without the term, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like when you were reading that chair and I feel
Speaker 1: like for a while and be like, oh, like I've
Speaker 1: done that before, Like you know, I'm just gonna make
Speaker 1: sure like I'm doing me like I'm gonna whatever. But
Speaker 1: I didn't call it like I'm consciously single. So I
Speaker 1: feel like people have been saying like I don't need
Speaker 1: no man, you know, for a while, but now there's
Speaker 1: just like a term for it. It's because you're not
Speaker 1: a pompous douche bag, only a pompous ye, Angela, I'm
Speaker 1: consciously single. So what's your relationship status? Well, I'm consciously single. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: Well I never want to talk to you again. You
Speaker 1: lose it? What does that mean? You know? You know,
Speaker 1: what's a good question that we should find out, Well,
Speaker 1: are you either one of you kind of on Facebook
Speaker 1: or like interactive on Facebook? No? Not a long time Mike.
Speaker 1: Question is because there's all these new dating terms and
Speaker 1: consciously single or consciously uncoupling, so on and so forth.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you know how that you had your
Speaker 1: dating um. You know, you'd say single, married, whatever relationship status.
Speaker 1: Do you think that it's still just those or do
Speaker 1: you think there's all these new terms for relationship status.
Speaker 1: We should find this out, just take it off. There's
Speaker 1: too many options. That's also changed so much. Like Facebook
Speaker 1: back in the day was basically like a way for
Speaker 1: you to find out who on your college campus was
Speaker 1: like in a relationship or single. Now it's like so different,
Speaker 1: you know, Facebook, It's like ten years. Do you know
Speaker 1: how many times I went on Facebook and would just
Speaker 1: check out if somebody was saying, Like I would never
Speaker 1: have the balls to go off to somebody and actually
Speaker 1: introduce myself and try to talk to them, so instead
Speaker 1: I would just go back to my house, open up
Speaker 1: my computer, and go on Facebook and see if what
Speaker 1: their relationship status was. So now, I mean, obviously we
Speaker 1: don't do that anymore, but if you want to do that,
Speaker 1: you would just go on their Instagram page page and
Speaker 1: see if they posted with a partner at any point.
Speaker 1: It's like the same thing, I guess to a degree. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know a little bit. You gotta be Instagram official
Speaker 1: these days, all right, We're gonna take a quick break,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna come back with one more term
Speaker 1: and then an email. Uh, and then this podcast will
Speaker 1: be over. We're gonna take a quick break, all right,
Speaker 1: welcome back to help. I suck at dating and are
Speaker 1: good for well, excuse me, Hannah, I always assume it
Speaker 1: was Eastern Hannah, are wonderful producer. Uh gave us the
Speaker 1: Facebook options of a relationship, Angela, do you want to
Speaker 1: read through them? Sure, there's a lot. You're ready. Buckle up? Single,
Speaker 1: in a relationship, engaged, married, in a civil union, in
Speaker 1: a domestic partnership, in an open relationship. It's complicated and
Speaker 1: also separated, divorced, and widowed. All right, let's break this
Speaker 1: down for a second. What is the difference. I'm actually
Speaker 1: curious because I don't know what's the difference between being
Speaker 1: in a civil union and a domestic partnership, well as
Speaker 1: someone that's in both currently. I'll tell you exactly what
Speaker 1: the difference is. Great, can't wait. I'm just I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Can you be in both in
Speaker 1: the same I would say a civil union maybe is
Speaker 1: a little more paperwork, and domestic partnership is like when
Speaker 1: you live with someone for over seven years, you are
Speaker 1: domestic partners. That's my interpretation of it, but I'm probably wrong. Also,
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine, like you remember there were certain people
Speaker 1: that you knew from like high school or college or
Speaker 1: whatever that would like they're in a relationship and the
Speaker 1: next day they go straight to Facebook and update their status.
Speaker 1: And then they break up two months later and the
Speaker 1: first thing they do is update their Instagram. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: their Facebook status. And it's just like that stuff is
Speaker 1: so crazy, like who, like, your your wife dies and
Speaker 1: then day later you switch it to widowed Like how tour? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like why are you thinking about that? Awful to me?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I would just say I think
Speaker 1: we should get rid of that altogether, in my opinion.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. Actually it's still up there. Though,
Speaker 1: Why does an Instagram have one? Then it's probably coming,
Speaker 1: it's said. I mean, but like Dean said, you can
Speaker 1: also go on Instagram. I mean, we all know that
Speaker 1: if you don't post a picture of your significant other
Speaker 1: on Instagram, something shade is going on. Right, that's a thing,
Speaker 1: that's true. That's true Instagram official right, Right, it's not
Speaker 1: nothing's ever that serious until your Instagram official or someone
Speaker 1: How did we get down this road? God, society is
Speaker 1: just doomed? So all right? The difference between a domestic
Speaker 1: partnership is a legal relationship between two individuals who live
Speaker 1: together and share a common domestic life, but are not married.
Speaker 1: A civil union is a legally recognized union with rights
Speaker 1: similar to those of marriage, created originally for same sex
Speaker 1: couples and jurisdictions where they are not legally allowed to marry.
Speaker 1: So maybe that's the biggest difference. I really don't know.
Speaker 1: It says it's similar to a domestic partnership in some ways.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, honestly, but I was just curious because
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I always guess that was just
Speaker 1: the same thing, just different turns. But the more you
Speaker 1: know open relationship, it's complicated. I would love, love, love,
Speaker 1: love to get somebody on this podcast who has a
Speaker 1: Facebook relationship status of it's complicated. I want that story
Speaker 1: that people have the it's complicated or just only like
Speaker 1: one have the it's complicated then as like single or something. Well,
Speaker 1: I really love her a lot, but she doesn't know exists,
Speaker 1: so it's pretty complicated. My god, that's pretty good. So well,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this guys before we move on.
Speaker 1: I just said a question, what are you guys? Current
Speaker 1: Facebook status is it's got to be married. I don't
Speaker 1: have Facebook? Did I share? Have you changes to marry?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm gonna look at mine because
Speaker 1: mine definitely is. Well, I wouldn't say definitely, but if
Speaker 1: it's on my page, which I doubt it is, it
Speaker 1: would say single, is my guess? Wait, so you can
Speaker 1: get rid of it from your page? I may have
Speaker 1: done that a while ago too. Hold on, stand by,
Speaker 1: stand by? How do I even see it? How do where?
Speaker 1: Is it still a thing? I guess it is? It
Speaker 1: has to be. Oh, it says I'm interested in women.
Speaker 1: That's good? Is under settings? Oh it says I'm in
Speaker 1: a relationship. But but it says I'm only the one
Speaker 1: able to see it. And honestly, I have no idea
Speaker 1: when I ever would have updated it to be in
Speaker 1: a relationship. And you know, it's funny. So it says
Speaker 1: you're in a relationship, but don't tell Kalin that was
Speaker 1: probably from a previous relationship. And that's exactly what I
Speaker 1: was thinking. According to Facebook, you're still with your ex
Speaker 1: from like nine years ago, years ago. I think I've
Speaker 1: made it to in a relationship just to keep the
Speaker 1: girls away. You know. I don't want anyone like hitting
Speaker 1: me up or side in my d M. So that's
Speaker 1: why I was like, yeah, yeah I did FAM. I
Speaker 1: don't know, yeah Messenger even, I know that one. They
Speaker 1: were definitely Facebook d M s UM because I have
Speaker 1: my co ed softball group chat in there and it's
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. Jared, you have two facebooks? Which one do I?
Speaker 1: Which one do? My friend requests? Like in Dean Creeping
Speaker 1: right now? I love one. Well, one of them is
Speaker 1: like my public page that I created, and then the
Speaker 1: other one is just like my personal one. That is,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a Jared Haven with two rs and
Speaker 1: Jared this is a This is definitely a fake account.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Somebody's trying to be me. Dude, you look
Speaker 1: good at your profile picture. I gotta hand it to you.
Speaker 1: Which one the one where it's like a headshot of you?
Speaker 1: You were in a great T shirt. Oh, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite, dude, I I love that I took that.
Speaker 1: It was a photo shoot in Westwark, Rode Island. It
Speaker 1: went fantastic, great day. They did a great shot. You have.
Speaker 1: Remember you've got Rhode Island College and Warwick Veterans High
Speaker 1: School on your education, but you don't have your new
Speaker 1: bachelor's degree on there. I gotta update that, let people.
Speaker 1: Let the people know I have my bachelor's dregree finally
Speaker 1: after twelve years ago. I did. I did work hard
Speaker 1: for that. All right, before we get going, let's do
Speaker 1: one email um with Angela. So, uh, anybody out in
Speaker 1: the universe, producers, Easton, if you're still there, I'm here,
Speaker 1: I'm here, I can help. All right, Let's here's an email.
Speaker 1: This is from Lily. Uh, do you guys agree that
Speaker 1: one person in a relationship always loves the other person more?
Speaker 1: He's frozen east and your froze a little bit there?
Speaker 1: Do you mind repeating yourself he's frozen and he's like,
Speaker 1: I know it's quite a double all right, I'll finish up,
Speaker 1: so let me read it. This is from Lily. Do
Speaker 1: you guys agree that one person in a relationship always
Speaker 1: loves the other person? Who would you say, in your
Speaker 1: respective relationships loves more or less? How does this affect
Speaker 1: the dynamic of your relationships? And do you think that
Speaker 1: it's something to watch out for in new relationships. So, Angela,
Speaker 1: I ask you, first of all, have you told have
Speaker 1: you and your boyfriend said I love each other? And two,
Speaker 1: if that's the case, do you feel that he loves
Speaker 1: you more than you love him? Or is it equal? Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: we've told each other that we love each other. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I honestly think it's just I think
Speaker 1: the real honest answers. I think it depends on the day.
Speaker 1: Like some days like I might love him more than
Speaker 1: he loves me, and other days he might love me
Speaker 1: more h I love him. I think it just depends
Speaker 1: on the day. Actually, I don't think I can sit
Speaker 1: here and just in like say one versus the other.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like that's probably healthy for it
Speaker 1: to kind of just be like, oh, like, whatever day
Speaker 1: it is, is is what one person is feeling. Because
Speaker 1: I feel like if one person loves somebody more, especially
Speaker 1: a lot more, then I feel like that could be
Speaker 1: a problem because then I feel like, maybe you're not
Speaker 1: getting as much love as you would deserve from somebody
Speaker 1: else who would love you the same, You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's a good answer Jared, what do you
Speaker 1: think between you and Ashley? Uh? I, it's so hard
Speaker 1: because well because if I if I say that I
Speaker 1: love her more, no one's gonna believe me because they've
Speaker 1: only seen Bachelor in Paradise. So they're like, clearly, Ashley
Speaker 1: loves you more, and it's like, no, I just love
Speaker 1: differently then Ashley. Ashley is very forthgoing with her feelings
Speaker 1: and just anything that's on her mind or her heart.
Speaker 1: She is saying immediately where I hold a lot more
Speaker 1: things closer to my chest, and I expressed my love
Speaker 1: in different ways. I'm more an acts of service where
Speaker 1: I want to provide for Ashley and protect her and
Speaker 1: make sure she's taken care of it and things of
Speaker 1: that nature. Where Ashley is just like screaming from the
Speaker 1: rooftops like I love Jared. So it's so sweet and
Speaker 1: endearing and I love it. Um I would say I
Speaker 1: would agree with Angela. I think there are days where
Speaker 1: I love Ashley more than she loves me. And I
Speaker 1: would say that there are days that Ashley loves me
Speaker 1: more than I love her, not that like I love
Speaker 1: her you less. It's kind of weird, but just it's
Speaker 1: I mean, the only way you can really know what
Speaker 1: we're talking about is if in your your in a relationship,
Speaker 1: or you're in love or you're married. It's like they're
Speaker 1: just you know, depends on the days. Yeah, you take
Speaker 1: one day at a time. You're up. Uh, Yeah, I'm up. Okay,
Speaker 1: I uh, I agree with both of you. Uh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna wrap this up. No, I'll get to this real quick.
Speaker 1: I would say I was gonna say at first that
Speaker 1: I love Caln more than she loves me, but then
Speaker 1: I like the Angela's answer. Sometimes it's different. Sometimes we
Speaker 1: love each other more depending on the day. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, well, that's definitely true, and I fully
Speaker 1: agree with that. But I think I love Caln Moore
Speaker 1: and Calin likes likes me more. Like we both love
Speaker 1: and like each other, but I love her more and
Speaker 1: she likes me more. If that makes any sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a better way phrasing it. Um that I don't
Speaker 1: know why I think that. That's just what my guts
Speaker 1: telling me to say, but I probably could be wrong. Um. Anyways,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's I don't even
Speaker 1: know how to end this this podcast, guess because we
Speaker 1: have another episode coming up in four days, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be basically a continuation of this episode. Maybe not
Speaker 1: a continuation per se, but Andrew's gonna stick with us
Speaker 1: for the next episode. So I guess that's really all
Speaker 1: I know, and that's all I can really share about
Speaker 1: it for now. So great job Dean. Into the exit
Speaker 1: of this podcast, it is like, I don't know, do
Speaker 1: you know? Can you better describe what's happening this week? Yes?
Speaker 1: What I can tell you right now is Dean is
Speaker 1: finally on his second beer and I'm bere and a
Speaker 1: half deep baby hell yes, uh and uh So that
Speaker 1: will do it for this week's episode of Help I
Speaker 1: Second Dating. We do have another episode coming out very shortly,
Speaker 1: so stay tuned for that. Angela. You are wonderful and
Speaker 1: you are a pleasure to have this podcast. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: Cosmopolitan for writing dating trends. Uh and then we should
Speaker 1: get to more dating trends. There were some curious ones
Speaker 1: on there. Maybe we could do it next episode, but
Speaker 1: until then, hopefully you know, we all just suck a
Speaker 1: little less. Thanks for having me follow help by Suck
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