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Speaker 1: Twelve of the NFL's finest quarterbacks have left the comfort

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Speaker 1: of their stadiums and luxury suites for the adventure of

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Speaker 1: a lifetime. These grid Iron heroes are used to leading

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Speaker 1: their teams on the field, but can they outplay, outlast,

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Speaker 1: and outthrow each other in the ultimate survival challenge?

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Speaker 2: Late everything you have with the gobine tie you, we

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Speaker 2: find a way to win.

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Speaker 1: The No matter what, the stakes are high and the

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Speaker 1: competition is fierce, only one can claim the title of

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Speaker 1: the ultimate survivor. Who will rise to the top and

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Speaker 1: who will be sacked?

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Speaker 3: They wrote me off, I ain't right back, though, that's

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Speaker 3: the problem.

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Speaker 2: I'm right back. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: This is Quarterback Island.

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Speaker 2: It is Quarterback Island.

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Speaker 4: Feel it.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to NFL Daily, where it's always island time. I'm

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Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio, so

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Speaker 2: lucky to be joined for this special Quarterback Island edition

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Speaker 2: of NFL Daily by Steve Weiss, an original voter of

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Speaker 2: course Back Island, Jordan Rodrigue of The Athletic, and Colleen Wolfe,

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Speaker 2: whose tension I can feel from here.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I feel super not stressed today, but I was

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Speaker 5: just thinking that Wes would absolutely love this segment, especially

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Speaker 5: just from the Tybee Island.

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Speaker 2: Of it all.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, this is so perfect.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 2: It is and Colleen's asking for what are the rules,

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Speaker 2: and it's like it's like.

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Speaker 4: Being pressed out.

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Speaker 6: It's more of a state of mind.

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Speaker 2: But for the listeners that missed the show that we

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Speaker 2: did in the middle of August, we did vote on

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Speaker 2: twelve quarterbacks who would be the original members of Quarterback Island.

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Speaker 2: In my mind, they are the twelve quarterbacks who define

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Speaker 2: the position when you vote for him, and today we're

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Speaker 2: going to decide who stays and who goes.

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Speaker 7: The timing is everything too, as Greg and I have

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Speaker 7: gone back and forth on the.

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Speaker 8: Lost several weeks.

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Speaker 7: Four game sample size right now, But Colleen, you should

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Speaker 7: know that you can attach meaning to different quarterbacks based

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Speaker 7: on reputation, based on situation that they're in. Quarterback Island

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Speaker 7: is not just a wonderful place, a legitimate geographic location,

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Speaker 7: but also an idea of what to strive for.

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Speaker 8: Okay as a quarterback?

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Speaker 5: All right, yeah, Because I'm sitting there and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 5: is this based on their performance through the first four

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Speaker 5: weeks of the season, is this based on just who

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Speaker 5: they are as a quarterback up until this point, the

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Speaker 5: carryover from us before.

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Speaker 6: Oh yes, is this like?

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Speaker 5: But then that gives me it's a different list for

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Speaker 5: every type of category.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna be fine, fly free, Colleen, Quarterback Island.

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Speaker 9: Just picture this picture of body Water quarterback elandrib is

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Speaker 9: next to Revis Island, right, Okay, bigger, okay, okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I think the first thing we should do

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Speaker 2: is introduce who are on the island, the original original members,

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Speaker 2: and yes, uh let's bring in their names. Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Joe Burrow. This is a no order, Jack Prescott,

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff, Rock Purdy, Jalen Hurts, Matthew Stafford, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: c J. Stroud, Jordan Love into a tongue of islok.

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Speaker 2: And I thought one way to start because what I

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Speaker 2: the season and it is kind of balancing, like, okay,

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Speaker 2: what they've looked like, what we think is their fault,

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Speaker 2: what's not their fault is I'm going to throw out

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Speaker 2: seven guys right off the top that I think should

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Speaker 6: We'll just start there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's going to be a lot

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Speaker 2: seven guys that you can vote at the end. Tell

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Speaker 2: me basically at the end of these guys, like, if

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Patrick, Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, and Joe Burrow, c

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Speaker 9: Matthew Stafford, what he's got two touchdown passes. He's got

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Speaker 9: as many touchdown passes as Jacoby Brissett. Okay, let's talk

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Speaker 9: about he's still on the island.

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Speaker 2: Jordan. This is one of the reasons why I wrote

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Speaker 7: Closes already separating himself from them, and respects.

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Speaker 6: Him a lot.

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Speaker 2: Was like, of course, we're keeping Matthew Stafford on the Island. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're making a face and some of the some of

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Speaker 2: the analytics aren't great for him pff, which is not analytics.

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Speaker 2: It's more of a grading of play to play. I

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Speaker 6: I mean to me, he has, I thought he has.

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Speaker 2: I know that's where where That's why I'm saying none

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Speaker 2: To my eye test, he's still playing at a very

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Speaker 7: I use the same logic that I used to say

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Speaker 7: the inversion of it, which is I'm not going to

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Speaker 7: punish a player who's playing at a high level for

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Speaker 7: what is going on around him.

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Speaker 8: That it is one of my most Yeah, especially, I'm

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Speaker 3: To do that.

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Speaker 7: Some people, and I won't say who, but some people

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Speaker 2: Are you getting after me? The guy on your left there,

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Speaker 2: Why is the one trying to take him up?

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Speaker 7: Stafford is so I will say, like if you if

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Speaker 7: you watch his film now, this last game, the loss

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Speaker 7: of them. But this situation with Matthew Stafford, I think

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Speaker 7: He is playing at an extremely high level in consideration

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Speaker 7: of missing Cooper Cup, missing Pukakua, having no timing with

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Speaker 8: The three and four.

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Speaker 7: He's playing with a rookie center and left guard who

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Speaker 7: couldn't even make the team for the first two years

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Speaker 7: after being a third round pick, and there's been so

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Speaker 7: much reshuffling and different game planning. The one constant of

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Speaker 7: this team has been Matthew Stafford's play. And again difficult

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Speaker 7: day against a great pass defense in Chicago. Should have

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Speaker 7: run the ball more, but they absolutely three of the

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Speaker 7: four games. First four games this season, Matthew Stafford has

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Speaker 7: played at a extremely high level, and particularly in consideration

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Speaker 7: of all of the chaos that's going.

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Speaker 6: On around And I agree, I agree with all that.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 9: But he's played competitively, he's played well. He's coming to

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Speaker 9: the fight with a butter knife. I'm just saying there's

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Speaker 9: other people who have played better regardless of their circumstance.

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Speaker 2: Right, Because if we're not going to punish people for

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Speaker 7: There are very few circumstances this bad that have started

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Speaker 7: out this bad in week one and week two. That's

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Speaker 7: when they start losing all of their line and all

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Speaker 7: I'm not even comparing the disasters here. I'm more saying this,

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Speaker 7: this quarterback is lifting this offense as much as he can.

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Speaker 5: It feels like, you know, his stay on the island

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Speaker 5: in this direction. It's like he's got a really bad

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking at someone you're you're gonna put off.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're saying, dak, I'm just saying no, I'm those

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Speaker 2: are just guys. This we're supposed to be guys that

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Speaker 2: we didn't need like a long discussion about whether they're

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Speaker 2: on or off. Yeah, and I love That's one the

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Speaker 2: thing about Quarterback Island. You never know what kind of

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Speaker 6: We jumped right into it with Stafford. But you may

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Speaker 6: make a point.

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Speaker 2: And what if I mean if we got really crazy

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Speaker 2: and things are a little dark there in LA right now,

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Speaker 2: I mean, what if he got kicked off rams Island?

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Speaker 7: That yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, Colleen, I think

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Speaker 7: you bring up a really good point in that. It

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Speaker 7: is like I think he's on the island. In four

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Speaker 7: games from now, he might not be. And we're looking

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Speaker 7: at this four games at a time.

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Speaker 4: Witch is getting and I'll bring him back.

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Speaker 3: I'll bring him back.

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Speaker 6: You never know, he could.

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Speaker 3: I'll bring him back.

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Speaker 2: He could. He could come back if we need to

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Speaker 2: Hold up, if you're watching on YouTube, we do have

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Speaker 2: placards that are very tropical. But I want you to say,

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Speaker 5: I think he's on, but he's on short notice here

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Speaker 7: You haven't know they're going to send him out for

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Speaker 7: they're going to send him out for cigarettes.

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Speaker 6: In a minute, we have voted you Stee, he's on.

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Speaker 2: Before we move on, just from these guys, because look,

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Speaker 2: this is more than half of QB Island, and I

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Speaker 2: think they deserve to be talked about. Uh Colleen like Mahomes, Purdy, Stroud,

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Speaker 2: out to you this year as someone you've enjoyed watching

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Speaker 2: doing something surprising. I don't know you want to give

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Speaker 5: I mean, if we're going to talk about a quarterback

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Speaker 5: who I've enjoyed watching and who has been surprising, but

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's it's so hard to say that

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Speaker 5: he's already earned a spot on Quarterback Island, but Jade

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Speaker 5: and Daniels has been.

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Speaker 2: Hold that hold hold from this group of guys.

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to give like Purty some love.

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Speaker 9: For instance, I was about to say, what about his

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Speaker 9: circumstances we talk about Stafford, Party's.

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Speaker 3: Got to be on there for the same reason.

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Speaker 7: In the same logic, right, Yeah, I agree, I agree,

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Speaker 7: and he's on it. Us. I was reading, you know,

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Speaker 7: because he has been shut up, because we have we

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Speaker 7: have been discussing brock Perty in this context, especially, Oh,

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Speaker 7: what's he gonna do when he doesn't have McCaffrey, When

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Speaker 7: So he has a league high eleven hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: Time, right, I think he is playing did best football

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Speaker 2: Terms of how he's playing this year, he'd be ahead

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Speaker 3: Bart he's got umbrella on the island.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's wild, Like I didn't want that.

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Speaker 7: It's quarterback Island, though, because we kind of do grandfather

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Speaker 2: I think they look at September tryout.

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Speaker 6: I think that's true.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And their O line play hasn't been great, just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Belichick defensively, would use the first part

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on the borderline. Last I just want

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Speaker 6: I think he's someone we would talk about.

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Speaker 6: Which is like exciting.

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Speaker 2: You know that he's above It's only two games. I

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Speaker 6: But no, I think you're right.

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Speaker 5: I texted kerr Orner about this because I was like,

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Speaker 5: all right, who who would you put on the island?

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Speaker 2: Of all I mean numbers, the numbers are are still

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Speaker 7: I think was the drop was so dramatic. I went

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Speaker 2: On too far from the twelve though now it's not

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Speaker 6: We'll see what happens this season.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get let's get to the juicy stuff

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Speaker 6: I want to Oh, we haven't yet.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: Now we're really talking about who's going on, who's going off.

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Speaker 6: Let's just kick some guys off to start.

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Speaker 2: I think taking idiot vote onto a tongue of Iloa

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Speaker 8: I agree with you.

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Speaker 8: There's just too small of a sample sat so far

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Speaker 7: On that.

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Speaker 4: But he's it's tough. I kind of want to keep

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Speaker 2: Like does he defined the quarterback position? My reason for

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Speaker 5: Fair though to judge him on one complete game, like

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Speaker 3: Get Jordan rules here.

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Speaker 9: I'm I'm introduced, Jordan said, if you've got an injury.

443
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan is it is kind of like, uh, it

444
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,400
Speaker 2: is kind of like one of those actors who also

445
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 2: have executive producer credit, Like she's Jeff Propes now, like

446
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 2: she's cashing so many different checks here. She came up

447
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 2: with the rules and yeah, I think the injury and

448
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,959
Speaker 2: just a little erratic. Guys have played better than him

449
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 2: for the time he's been out there. So are we

450
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 2: all in agreement.

451
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 4: About I think it's unfair.

452
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Colleagen's voting, Yeah, I like that. I think she

453
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 2: knows she was out voted. It was a safe Yes.

454
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 7: I understand how this is going to sound. But I'm

455
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,119
Speaker 7: holding on for Love to make it in the next

456
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Speaker 7: four games.

457
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think that's absolutely fair. Jordan Love could

458
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 2: be right after week eight, All right after week eight

459
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 2: in Matt Stafford, all right, we are going to take

460
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 2: a quick break here. Seven guys are on the island.

461
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 2: Two have been voted off, and you know we're not

462
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 2: inhumane here. They're going on a nice little sea cruise

463
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 2: together and some of them heading back to the mainland

464
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 2: to uh in Jordan Love, when we come back, we

465
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 2: will talk about who is coming onto the island. Some

466
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 2: of the toughest discussions of who might get looted off

467
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 2: back on Quarterback Island, the place every quarterback wants to

468
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 2: be when their little kids they grow up and they say,

469
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 2: I want to move there someday. That is the absolute

470
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 2: pinnacle of the profession. Forget the Hall of Fame, forget

471
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 2: winning Super Bowls. You just want to be in that

472
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 2: group because it's more more attainable. Frankly, I mean these

473
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 2: poor guys, Josh Allen Stroud. It's like Mahomes doesn't let

474
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Speaker 2: him win any super Bowls. But you get on Quarterback Allen, like.

475
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 5: An overwater bungalow would be like, that's what everyone is

476
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 5: trying to nice Boro move exactly.

477
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: Like who's like the sneaky m VP. Just in terms

478
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Speaker 2: of vibes on the island, do you think.

479
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 8: Oh, Mahomes for sure, he really brings the beer too.

480
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 4: I could see that. I feel like Josh Allen is

481
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 4: kind of like.

482
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 8: Allen's in charge of the board game.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeahs, I was gonna say, like Mahomes would be low

484
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 2: on my list of like.

485
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 3: Are completely missing it.

486
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 9: Joey Burrow, Yeah, that's yeah, you're right, Joe Sisty.

487
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Speaker 2: I was thinking Burrow and Lamar, would Lamar Lamar be fun?

488
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: They'd all be trying to like impress Lamar just by

489
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: being cool and stuff. All right, let's uh, let's go

490
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 2: to guys we want to nominate onto the Apple to

491
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 2: go on the island. I think so unless we want

492
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: to talk about unless anyone wants to talk about guys

493
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 2: that we definitely want to boot off.

494
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 6: I think all of these dominates is going to be contingent.

495
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: Right now, we have two open spots, so I think

496
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: if we first thing we can do is put two

497
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: guys onto the island, like, there are two open spots.

498
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 2: So I will leave the floor to who it's. It's

499
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: like Congress. Just whoever jumps in and wants to nominate,

500
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: all right, how Congress works, right.

501
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is, so I'm sure of it. Right, It's

502
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 5: just like Judge Connie. It works, but it all works

503
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 5: the same way. I nominate Baker Mayfield, whoa it?

504
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: I love it, I love it, I love it, thank you,

505
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 3: I love it.

506
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Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield, who is constantly doubted, is constantly kind of

507
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 5: one of those guys where people almost forget about him

508
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 5: when they're talking about quarterback play. He has been unbelievable

509
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 5: this year and he absolutely deserves a spot on Quarterback Island.

510
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 5: When you look at the other guys that are on

511
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Speaker 5: here that are like Jalen Hurts, I mean, Baker Mayfield

512
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 5: one thousand percent has been better than Hurts.

513
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Speaker 4: So he's on.

514
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 9: Eight touchdowns, two interceptions, He's got one hundred and six

515
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 9: point nine pass rate, and it puts him in the

516
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Speaker 9: top five. Plus his team is leading the division. I

517
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 9: think a Baker gets serious. I think the I think

518
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 9: that the propeller boat is pushing towards the island.

519
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: Okay, sometimes early and the you want to put everyone

520
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 2: on the island, but we just have a lot of

521
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: other players.

522
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Speaker 3: Okay, could get through. Can I state the obvioence want

523
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold?

524
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Speaker 6: Okay, Well, let's let's get through the Baker thing for it.

525
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Speaker 2: She put him up for nomination, So if if we

526
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Speaker 2: want a table to vote for Baker until later, we can.

527
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Speaker 2: I think the negatives would be he played one of

528
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Speaker 2: the worst games I've seen any quarterback play. Yes, in

529
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Speaker 2: three Annie's Baker Mayfield, and so we've seen the ups

530
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 2: and the downs, hold ups, and downs.

531
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Speaker 6: In his career. There's been ups, there's been downs.

532
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 3: You hit him with Annie's Baker makes.

533
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Speaker 2: What I mean to say is that if you're going

534
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Speaker 2: to get a spot on the island and you've had

535
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: a career that's been up and down and you have

536
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: limitations as a quarterback, I need you to be red hot.

537
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 2: I need you to be closer to what Sam Darnold is.

538
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: I need you to not have that Week three blemish

539
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: kind of dragging down some of the numbers in some

540
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: of my.

541
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Speaker 4: Second the league and passing touchdowns?

542
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Speaker 5: Is that a good metric if you're measuring quarterbacks passing touchdowns?

543
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Speaker 6: It's okay. I mean I definitely prefer others.

544
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 7: He just misses the island in terms of EPA per

545
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 7: drop back at thirteen.

546
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 6: Okay.

547
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Speaker 7: However, However, like I gotta tell you guys this, when

548
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 7: this guy wills a win, it's hard to find people

549
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 7: who will a team the way that when he goes

550
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 7: into like darkness mode and his brain, it does remind me,

551
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Speaker 7: I mean, they're not the same at all. Reminds me

552
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 7: of a staff and he kind of goes full on

553
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 7: like serial killer, like I'm going to scratch and claw

554
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 7: and fight my way and steal souls for this win.

555
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 7: But Baker does it in this way that's like I'm

556
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 7: going to put my body on the line for it. Also,

557
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 7: so it's you know, I can understand why he has

558
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 7: been nominated for Quarterback Island because I've not seen that's

559
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 7: just that extra special little it factor for a competitor.

560
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 7: But that that game was also one of the I

561
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Speaker 7: mean that was.

562
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Speaker 2: I also amusing my gut my eye test, and yeah,

563
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Speaker 2: I just think I think he has he has limitations

564
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 2: where he's close, he's on the list, but to put

565
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: him right on, so.

566
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Speaker 5: Let's take I'll just say that he is the FedEx

567
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 5: Air Player of the Week, so he could be taking

568
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 5: that plane to the Island.

569
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Speaker 8: I love that for him.

570
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, to your point, seventeenth and completion percentage over expected,

571
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: he's around tenth eleventh like an EPA and stuff. But

572
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Speaker 2: I think they're doing a good job coaching around him

573
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: and not they're playing with his limited I think he

574
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 2: just has some limitations where I want to get to

575
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: some guys who maybe have have fewer limitations.

576
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Speaker 9: Okay, so let's have the slam dunk Sam Donald. Okay,

577
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 9: if we're talking to Sam Donald, I.

578
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 8: Am a full freaking yes, Yea Donald.

579
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: Come on and look at Rosie. What do you you're

580
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 3: talking about? Limitation?

581
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: I will I wanted to find out how many, how many?

582
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: How many spots are open? First of all, like we

583
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: don't know for now only two spots are open. Would

584
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: he be that in my top two of guys to

585
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: put onto the island that are available?

586
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 6: To know? He wouldn't?

587
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 8: I have a question what anyone on the island.

588
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 7: Let's let's permit this is Greg Island now, this deserted island.

589
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: Oh God, nobody wants to be there. It's just it's

590
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: just like playing like Midski and he doesn't think you

591
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: know ball j Baker.

592
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 8: Okay, Greg, just.

593
00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: Like a geno highlight reel on Rep's wants to be there.

594
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 3: Just why he's fighting so hard?

595
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 8: This is weird, bro uncomfortable.

596
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: Greg.

597
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 7: Let's let's reframe it though, the argument like, okay, would

598
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 7: you rather put either Dak or Jalen Hurts over this

599
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 7: first four game stretch over Sam Donald? Because we're actually

600
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 7: looking at now taking spots at this point, we're not

601
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 7: just looking at which I know that's where Steve and

602
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 7: I are coming from. And you know, we're not just

603
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 7: looking at taking spots now, we're looking at open spots. Now,

604
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 7: we're looking at who will this person potentially replace because

605
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 7: we're almost full well.

606
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 3: And who and taken off taking off two of.

607
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: Love and we're going to go through the guys and

608
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: maybe we'll do that of who else could possibly be vowed.

609
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: I think Donald is a nuanced conversation. I think his

610
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: history matters to me more. And is he sort of

611
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: defining the quarterback position this year that that's where he

612
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: wins me over a little bit, Whereas I think he's

613
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: one of these stories of the year, one of the

614
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: teams of the year. Do I trust that he's going

615
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: to be on in four weeks? I don't necessarily. I

616
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: don't think it's crazy to look at what he's done

617
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: and think that he's playing really well and the situation

618
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: has helped him out a lot, and on a throw

619
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: to throw basis, it hasn't necessarily been like special. He's

620
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: fumbled four times, that's second in the league. I think

621
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: that's significant. He has three interceptions, Like if you project

622
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: those over a course of a season, that's a lot

623
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: of fumbles. That's a lot of interceptions. Which has been

624
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: an issue for him over the years. He's great in

625
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 2: all the efficiency stats, so he would be on the

626
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: island easily with most of the efficiency stats. But I

627
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: think I look at it a little more sometimes like

628
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: PFF does, which is like a grade on a play

629
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: to play basis, like how many pluses, how many minuses

630
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: they have? They have him sixteenth at quarterback, so it's

631
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: not me saying that or thirteenth in terms of passing,

632
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: and that's probably where I would have him that. He's

633
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: probably playing around ten to thirteen. The numbers and the

634
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: story help, but the history hurts. And that's why to me,

635
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: he's sort of on the borderline as I want to

636
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: see how many guys get kicked off and guys get on.

637
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 9: I get it, But you're talking about projections, so that

638
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 9: means you're saying, okay, but justin Herbert, by the end

639
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 9: of season time, he should he should be on, like

640
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 9: like you're your look, if you're talking about projections, I

641
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 9: mean you could throw two on back on there.

642
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying even so far, I would not have him

643
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: in my top like eight quarterbacks or something.

644
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 7: He'd be doesn't have to be in the top eight,

645
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 7: right top twelve twelve.

646
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: But then see, when you're getting into the nether world,

647
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: I do consider like what good do I think these

648
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: players actually are and how are they playing? Yeah?

649
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 6: Right, so we do Sam Donald vote.

650
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: Because you know where I am. I vote no, I

651
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: vote yes, he's on the island.

652
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: He wants to keep a spot open for Gino.

653
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 2: So bad Donald is on the island.

654
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 8: I definitively.

655
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 7: They don't think that you can describe the first four

656
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 7: games of quarterback play in the twenty twenty four NFL

657
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 7: season without bringing up Sam Donald in the top three

658
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 7: sentences you use to describe quarterback play in twenty twenty

659
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 7: four specifically, which is what this topic is about.

660
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I see.

661
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: Even then she stood on businesses and shut you down.

662
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 8: I'm standing on tiny table island.

663
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 6: I don't know.

664
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: I would say that that it's a team story and

665
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: you can separate things that the offensive line of the running game.

666
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: I went through it all. I said, he's somewhere in

667
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: that mix. I was open minded. I assumed he would

668
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: get on initially, but I wanted to see who gets

669
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: kicked off. So Darnold is on the island. Maybe we

670
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: should talk about the guys that are going off.

671
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 5: Actually, this is why I was stressed out about this exercise.

672
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: I need an organization.

673
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: Who else? Who else?

674
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 9: So there's there's there's still one more open spot, right,

675
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 9: we've kicked off to so Sham takes one of those.

676
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: So who do you think she'd get the next one? Exactly?

677
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 8: Okay, He's like, oh yeah, yea, yeah, we're good, but no.

678
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: I want to have like a long conversation.

679
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 8: Oh it was really coo Island you go to do that?

680
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: It was cool just watching him in that offense. What

681
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: stood out to you in the Monday Night performance is

682
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: sort of how he fits in that Ryan Grove.

683
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 7: About Yea, besides the three hundred texts I sent you

684
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 7: about this is I was like, I'm watching this game,

685
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 7: I'm so happy, and this must be what you feel

686
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 7: like all the time.

687
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 8: What is that like? Yeah?

688
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 7: I think he fits so well in this system because

689
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 7: you can clearly see how much to do Ryan Grubb

690
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 7: is giving him. He has so much autonomy and responsibility. Basically,

691
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 7: I love a collaboration like this between an OC and

692
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 7: a quarterback because the OC basically sets the table, lays

693
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 7: out the steak knife and the tiny salad fork and

694
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 7: two different cups and one plate and three bowls and says,

695
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 7: all right, man, we got the spacing down.

696
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 8: I've got the spacing.

697
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 7: Now you do what you want with everything else, and

698
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 7: you choose how you're going to run the motions you get.

699
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 7: I mean, unfortunately, he's got to get the line set

700
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 7: every day play, which is like not should not be happening,

701
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 7: and the line has been atrocious. But somehow he is

702
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 7: rising past all of that, and this dude is spinning

703
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 7: that really.

704
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean just pretty.

705
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 9: I mean I'm looking around the NFL and I'm seeing

706
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 9: quick gang, quickly, quick game, quick game. I am seen

707
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 9: every throw of his going twenty yards somewhere on the

708
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 9: field from the numbers to inside the hashes.

709
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: He is drilling it. And you saw last night.

710
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 9: I mean he is navigating to a bunch of garbage

711
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 9: in the pocket and he is still making these stick throws.

712
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: So he is playing at a Were.

713
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 6: You rooting against them on Monday night?

714
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: Because we clearly felt that Goff and Gino were showing

715
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: out because they knew Quarterback Island was taping right after

716
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: that this week and they wanted to impress. Were you

717
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: rooting against their Ford? Gino? Because I know you're rooting

718
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: for Darnold in a way because you don't really like

719
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: me that and then you have to were you rooting

720
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: against him?

721
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 5: I'm always rooting for Gino Smith. I feel like, yeah,

722
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 5: I like to see him succeed. But I was rooting

723
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 5: against him last night because I picked the Lions. But

724
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker, I feel like he was almost like the

725
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 5: guy that they.

726
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: Could not stop him. He just kept coming back.

727
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: They stopped through the first half.

728
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, and if they hadn't turned the ball like DK

729
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 7: mccaf they hadn't turned it over early like that, who knows,

730
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 7: I mean their script, they could have date on their

731
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 7: A plus script, like who knows what could have happened

732
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 7: near the end of that game. That was an electric game.

733
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 7: Gino Smith had already solidified though, to me, even from

734
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 7: the jump, which.

735
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 6: Is why you got to look past QB rating.

736
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: He has four touchdowns four interceptions this season, like that

737
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: could be such a misleading stat if you've watched them

738
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: every week. That Miami game, I thought he played awesome.

739
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: So he's on. He's number one in the stat which

740
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: is called on target rate. Just throws over ten yard

741
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: ninety five percent of his throwth he draws target the

742
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: league average is seventy five. Reminds me a lot of

743
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: one of my favorites, Philip Rivers. I mean, he throws

744
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: it prettier than Philip Rivers, but just how he navigates

745
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: the pocket he stays called Paul just gets the intermedia.

746
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: Philip filp was the man first three quarters. Don't get it.

747
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so we've we've put two guys on the island,

748
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: you know and Sam Donold.

749
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 6: What a season that they're on the island twenty twenty four.

750
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about maybe some guys that could also

751
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: get kicked off and some guys we didn't talk about.

752
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: There's only a few left over. Stafford is on the

753
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: island for now. There's three players that are I guess

754
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: in the maybe category that are on the island. But

755
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: we should talk about Jared Goff was flirting with getting

756
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: booted before last night. Last night's performance was Monday Night's

757
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: performance enough to keep where Jared Goff is at?

758
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 6: What do you think Kelly was he on Kurt Warner's list?

759
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 4: You know what I believe he was. He was was

760
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: on the list.

761
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: Okay, good, he knows ball now now he finally it's

762
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 2: it's certified.

763
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: He's the Hall of Fame.

764
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: He's in.

765
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 8: He's joining Greg on Gin.

766
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: That was a joke. It was a joke, okay, So

767
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: but after you no, do you do? We all vote

768
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: yes on Jared Goff staying on.

769
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 7: Quest And I want to I want to back this

770
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 7: up with the number two because I did the same

771
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 7: extrapolation weeks one and two versus three and four, because

772
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 7: I thought he started to play, you could start to

773
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 7: see him play better. Weeks three and four. EPA per

774
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 7: drop pack was actually at number three. So and and

775
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 7: he didn't really even throw the ball that much. It

776
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 7: was perfect, but he didn't throw the ball that much

777
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 7: to dramatically skew up his average. Right now, his number

778
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 7: is ep aper dropback is at number nine that system.

779
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 7: So yeah, so you know it's it's I think that's

780
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 7: significant that he jumped that high despite a small sample

781
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 7: size in even though it was perfect, a small sample size,

782
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 7: and he didn't have Frank Ragnow out there got a

783
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 7: touchdown exactly.

784
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 6: We're all short throws either. So you have it.

785
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: You throw a perfect game on Monday night football, and

786
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 2: you were already on the island like that. Those first

787
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: three weeks would have had to have been total disaster.

788
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: Against that, and they weren't.

789
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they weren't. They weren't that bad the first

790
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: two weeks. Little panic under pressure sometimes, but.

791
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are five four and Julia Low the safety.

792
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: Let's have the Jalen Hurts convo. Your dude, weird season.

793
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 4: It just continues.

794
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 5: If he never got any better from the end of

795
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: last year. The only upside is Saquon Barkley. If they

796
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 5: didn't sign him, I don't know where.

797
00:35:59,120 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: They would be.

798
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 5: But Jalen Hurts, they just can't move the ball. On Sunday,

799
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 5: the Eagles had zero yards of offense until six minutes

800
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 5: in the second quarter. Zero and then the turnovers they

801
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 5: just keep happening. He has twenty seven turnovers over his

802
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 5: past twenty starts, dating back.

803
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 4: To last season. So you could say, all right, there's.

804
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 5: That's almost a dart like yeah, right, you hide. You

805
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 5: could say that there is some type of disconnect between

806
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 5: there obviously is a disconnect between the players and the

807
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 5: coaching staff, but maybe between Jalen Hurts and Kellen Moore.

808
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 5: But a lot of these issues were happening before Kellen

809
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 5: Moore got there, So I don't know what is going

810
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 5: on and how they can fix it, but he's got

811
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 5: to get off the island.

812
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: Brown comes back the right.

813
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 4: I mean they're missing two.

814
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's confusing, like they are. He is so emblematic

815
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: of that team. Maybe you got your personality of your

816
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: leaders and hurts and series are a little all over

817
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: the place, because I swear if you just have watched

818
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: every snap, he's done a lot of good things this year.

819
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: He's made a lot of plays out of nothing. He's

820
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: made a lot of clutch drives for lack of a

821
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: better word. I know that game against Tampa was, you know,

822
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: pretty rough that week. He was in general, but he

823
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: wasn't like their problem, like their defense has been a

824
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: total like trash camp for three out of four games.

825
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: And he's done some good things, But then you have

826
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: to grade the turnovers and like the big like the

827
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: turnover where he plays. I think he has the second

828
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: most in the league to Will Levis. And it's been

829
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: a little all over the place where you don't know

830
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: what to think. And he's he's not He's not in

831
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 2: that borough or Mahomes tier where I'm going to forgive

832
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: it completely.

833
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, Will Levis is on quarterback Saturn right now?

834
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 9: Oh for will Oh yeah, yeah, I think Jalen's on

835
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 9: the raft with Wilson.

836
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: The Dinghy Kane picked them up.

837
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: Bill Bardo had one of my favorite tweets of the year.

838
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: He said, why does Will Levis always look like an

839
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: actor who's playing quarterback?

840
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: Movie?

841
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: But it's not like a pretty good no. I mean

842
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: it's not even I don't think an insult. But when

843
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: he's on the side, like he.

844
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 8: Just that axpressive, he feels his feeling.

845
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: It wasn't like taking a huge shot. But yeah, I

846
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 2: guess he was kind of playing like an actor too.

847
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: I am going to vote no on Jalen Hurts. I'm

848
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: gonna vote no on Jalen Hurts. He's gone. And the

849
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: reason I'm doing that because I like to do a

850
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: one to one thing here. You mentioned your guy from

851
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: the Commanders before jade and Daniels.

852
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 6: Do you want to officially nominated?

853
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Jadeen Daniels, are you kidding me? Eighty

854
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 5: two zero point one completion percentage, eight hundred and ninety

855
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 5: seven passing yards, three touchdowns. Obviously that's not that much,

856
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 5: but he's also running scores in as well, he's free

857
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 5: of them. Fantastic, I mean, and all of his runs.

858
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 5: I feel like so many of his runs go for

859
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 5: first downs too. So he's making good decisions, he's making

860
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 5: good reads.

861
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 4: He's just doesn't look like a rookie quarterback at all.

862
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 5: And I know Cliff King's is putting him in a

863
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 5: great position, but it feels like Cliff Kingsbury is doing

864
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 5: things a little different than he had done in Arizona

865
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: one thousand percent with Kyler Murray, and this just works.

866
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 5: This marriage is so perfect. I'm loving Jade and Daniels.

867
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it.

868
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 7: You mentioned it the other day on the preview show,

869
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 7: Greg about what they're doing with the offensive line and

870
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 7: how structurally it just looks so much more sound than

871
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 7: we thought it was going to look around Jayden Daniels.

872
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 7: We were worried about the offensive line coming in, we

873
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 7: were worried about the skilled players, we were worried about

874
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 7: some of the structure of the run game.

875
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 8: All of it is.

876
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 7: It's not overshadowing him by any way. It is supporting

877
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 7: him in the best and purest way possible, where they

878
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 7: have layers to this offense and he can compete at

879
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 7: every single one of these layers within this offense, and

880
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 7: I think I think he's brilliant.

881
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 8: He's a joy to watch.

882
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: I think this we're having Anthony Lynn as the run

883
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: game courted with it back.

884
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 9: It really helps, right, So this helps some of the

885
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 9: run protections because you know Cliff, he loves having screaming

886
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 9: free runners coming out of his quarterback. Even on that

887
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 9: beautiful touchdown pass to Scary Terry, that was a clean

888
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 9: blitz off the corner. But he saw it coming and

889
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 9: speaking to a you know, coach on that staff there,

890
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 9: he will tell you he's like, look in practice, we

891
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 9: tried to trick him in training camp. We ran double

892
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 9: three techniques, right, so they played their defensive tackles wide.

893
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 9: He said he saw it, saw two INSI linebackers. He

894
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 9: moved a running back out to make the linebacker follow

895
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 9: the running back. So now the middle of the field

896
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 9: is wide open and he calls a quarterback draw. He's

897
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 9: like the fact that a rookie quarterback saw this two

898
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 9: or three weeks into training camp recognized everything. So that's

899
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 9: all the football he's played collegiately, he's been coached well.

900
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 9: Dan Quinn told me he's got that twenty four hour keyfob.

901
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 9: He can get to the building whatever he wants to

902
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 9: study and do all that stuff that he wants to do.

903
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 9: So I don't think that the people in that building

904
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 9: this is really coming as a surprise.

905
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: But to me, I'm ready to give him a gold

906
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: jacket because he has the commanders.

907
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 9: He has commanders at three my first place even for

908
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 9: a minute with that organization.

909
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean.

910
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: He is the man of the moment. It's why I

911
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 2: think we're gonna be unanimous. We're all voting yes, Jayde

912
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: and Daniels, welcome to the island. First ever rookie on

913
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: Quarterback Island. You got to bring an honor, You got.

914
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 6: To bring the beers. I guess I don't know what

915
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 6: they do.

916
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: They're bringing him to him.

917
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, he gets he gets served. I thought it was

918
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 5: really interesting. I read Terry McLaurin was talking about how

919
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 5: Jade and Daniels is this like calming confident force in

920
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 5: the building, and I guess they had missed each other

921
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 5: on a connection week one, and that Jade Daniels kept

922
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 5: coming over to Terry McLaurin throughout the week and he's like,

923
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 5: just be patient, I'm coming to you. I'm coming back

924
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 5: to you, and was like almost like talking him down,

925
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 5: like everything's gonna be fine, don't worry.

926
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 4: And it's like that doesn't feel like a rookie quarterback move.

927
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 5: He just seems like he's a wise sage quarterback in

928
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 5: a rookie's body.

929
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: You know.

930
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 7: Once his teammates started understanding like how he operates, it's

931
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 7: been really fun reading some of the reports out of

932
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 7: there because he just would like experiment with things and

933
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 7: try things. And I mentioned it a couple of weeks ago,

934
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 7: it was like, what does this lover do? Oh that's fun?

935
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 7: I got hit, But hey, we're all having like I

936
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 7: feel joy, you know, all these things, and it just

937
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 7: he's just like this brightness. And once they realized kind

938
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 7: of that's, oh, he's not actually making mistakes because he's

939
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 7: making mistakes innocently, Like he's making mistakes on purpose to

940
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 7: try to figure out what works and what doesn't. And

941
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 7: he's doing it with this personality and this joy. And

942
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 7: then you're seeing that was all summer and you're seeing

943
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 7: what translates out of that. His team is with him

944
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 7: one hundred percent, and they're they're for him, and they

945
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 7: can collaborate and do those things on the sideline like that,

946
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 7: because they had that experience already and they really.

947
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: Look a shock though, like no one saw this coming

948
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 2: that the earth. They are one of the best offenses

949
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: in NFL history through one month. Like for the first

950
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: month to play, they are one of the best offenses

951
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: we've ever seen. Now, I do think it's fair to

952
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: point out he was unanimous. The only reason I was

953
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 2: even pushing on Donald before is like, I just wanted

954
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: to make sure that we get guys like Tandan Daniels

955
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: on which we're definitely ahead on my list, and that

956
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 2: once we got through it and hurts.

957
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 6: This makes sense.

958
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: But I do think it's important to point out they've

959
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: had an incredibly easy schedule in terms of the defenses

960
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: that they face, and so the numbers will go I

961
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: think from stratospheric to Okay, let's see against some better defenses.

962
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 6: I'm excited to see that.

963
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: But here here's why I don't think I'm sorry.

964
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 9: There's gonna be just the significant crash because he's not

965
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 9: one of these fokay quarterbacks. He's got to always play

966
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 9: in the shotgun, right, He's not one of these guys

967
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 9: they line him up under center in the pistol, in

968
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 9: the gun offset. So he's got a pretty good breadth

969
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 9: of how to play the position from a lot of

970
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 9: different ways, which is gonna make it tough to develop

971
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 9: whatever you want to call it, the film on him,

972
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 9: so to speak, because I think he's just got a

973
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 9: lot of operational tools.

974
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: Okay, we haven't talked about Dak Prescott at all. I

975
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: think if we're gonna talk about Dak, if you want

976
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: to kick him off the island, you got to propose

977
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: someone to put on Justin fields to me, we you know,

978
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: it's not quite quarterback island material, but he's playing outstanding,

979
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: So just giving him a little love. Does anyone have

980
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: someone they want on the island over Dak? Any Dak

981
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 2: thoughts here?

982
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 3: Oh that's a tough one.

983
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm really strong on Baker, but Dak would

984
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 9: be real tough. He is not the Cowboys problem. No,

985
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 9: I wouldn't put Baker on for Dak.

986
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: There Aaron Rodgers, I think going into week four this

987
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: might have been a different conversation because I think he's yeah, yeah,

988
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: But even then, like it really is stuck in our head.

989
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: When I went back and watched that game, I actually

990
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: did not think Aaron Rodgers played nearly as bad as

991
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: I would have expected. I think he was a veteran

992
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: quarterback like Stafford, in a very difficult situation. If you

993
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: had to, if I had to say, like who's played

994
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: better this year Stafford, for instance, or Rogers, I would

995
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: go Stafford. But it's actually pretty close. I think Rogers

996
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 2: is playing good football, and so Rogers playing good football

997
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: not being on Quarterback Island, Like, that's a tough decision.

998
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 6: He's very on the borderline for me.

999
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got one for you.

1000
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 9: Then, since we're trying to play who's are either those

1001
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 9: guys playing as well as Kyler Murray?

1002
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: They're one in three. But Kyler.

1003
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 7: I have a hard time with Kyler because I got

1004
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 7: to watch in person probably one of the best games

1005
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 7: he's ever played, and it was absolutely out I mean,

1006
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 7: he looked I was like, make him president of Quarterback

1007
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 7: Island at this point.

1008
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 8: It was outstanding.

1009
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 7: But I just I have a hard time he's you know,

1010
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 7: I think the defense is obviously dragging him down. I'm,

1011
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 7: like I said, I'm not punishing players for not being

1012
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 7: able to overcome certain like catastrophics surrounding that defense. Looks bad,

1013
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 7: to put it politely, but I was ready to like,

1014
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 7: as you guys know, I was ready to like crown

1015
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 7: this Arizona offense as like the future, right, and it's

1016
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 7: just not coming together in a cohesive way and.

1017
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: Been the run game more than yeah pass. I expected

1018
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: him to be more a part of that time you run.

1019
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 7: Well, but I was going to be more involved on

1020
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 7: a weekly basis, not just in that you know, that

1021
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 7: game against the Rams. I thought he's going to be

1022
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 7: more involved on a weekly basis in the run plan.

1023
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 6: He's not.

1024
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 8: I think he's holding the ball a little bit.

1025
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 7: Sometimes it's just it's a it's a strang the receiver

1026
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 7: trust doesn't quite seem to be I think, for for

1027
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 7: valid reasons, some streaky a little bit of streaky play

1028
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 7: is including from the top guy on that team. So

1029
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 7: I just think that it's I didn't know what to

1030
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 7: do with him. I didn't know what to do with him,

1031
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 7: but I wasn't willing to swap him out over some

1032
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 7: players who I think have played consistently unbelievable ball.

1033
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 5: He's sort of just on the on the ferry. That

1034
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 5: might be he's in transit for the island, but he's.

1035
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: Hanging out with Rogers, where yeah, he's just like right there.

1036
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 2: That would be a thing you're talking about.

1037
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 6: That would be a weird duo. They're both a laugh.

1038
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: Kyler's like, hey man, did you see what I was

1039
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: shot in that game? There?

1040
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little video games. I don't think Rogers is

1041
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 2: a gamer. The numbers are better than maybe the last

1042
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: two games I test would say, like Murray ninth and

1043
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: EPA per dropback sixth and completion percentage over expected. I

1044
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: think he'd looked good through two weeks. He certainly would

1045
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: have had a strong case. He held the ball quite

1046
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: a bit the last couple of weeks. Don't think he's

1047
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: played awful, But that game against a pretty bad Commander's

1048
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: defense that sunk his chances. So wow, maybe Dak's safe.

1049
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: We were not putting car on we no one nominated Rogers. Wow.

1050
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: Rodgers would add different vibes to the I.

1051
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 7: Think he's had one vintage Aaron Rodgers game so far

1052
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 7: and hasn't quite looked fully himself in the other.

1053
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: I would agree with that.

1054
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 9: And yet he's yeah, based on the other guys ahead

1055
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 9: of him, Okay, that's.

1056
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: Fair because he's like above the Dalton line as we're

1057
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: mixing different podcasts, different ways of valuing quarterbacks, Like I

1058
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: think throughout he's been a big time asset to their team.

1059
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: The second half of the Titans game, he was fantastic.

1060
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 2: Wasn't like the complete game. Uh, And so it's it's

1061
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: actually kind of hard for me to leave him off

1062
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: because I feel like he could get better over the

1063
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 2: course of the season.

1064
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 3: But you were quick to leave him off the first

1065
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: time because I was memory.

1066
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: You can change your opinions based on new information. I

1067
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: appreciate good football. I think he's playing pretty good, but

1068
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put him on either over Dak. I would

1069
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: probably put him on over Darnold. But you know that's

1070
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1071
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 6: That's what I mean.

1072
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 8: Four games of the season.

1073
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: It's no, it's close. I mean it's a total. That's

1074
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: a total about justin Herbert never came up. He's healthy.

1075
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: Now he's playing. I mean, he's sort of help.

1076
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 9: He's so tough and he's so competitive, and this is

1077
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 9: one where I think you really have to factor and circumstances.

1078
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 9: Besides the injury, he has got nobody to go downfield.

1079
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 9: I feel bad for him because he is such a gamer.

1080
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 9: I mean I love watching him play, and right now

1081
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 9: he just has nothing there.

1082
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: They're not in.

1083
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 9: Terms of the past game, they're easy to defend, just

1084
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 9: in terms of teams know they don't have anyone who's

1085
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 9: gonna go downfield on them.

1086
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's thrown for fewer than two hundred yards in

1087
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 5: all four games. He never had back to back games

1088
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 5: like that in his career. And this is not like

1089
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 5: he just he doesn't look like the same quarterback because

1090
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 5: of the system that he's in and because of like

1091
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 5: the skill position players around him.

1092
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: He looks so much better than the numbers, and the

1093
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 2: numbers I touched out an interception looks good five to one.

1094
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: But you look at QBR every week. I go to

1095
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: you know, hate watch QBR and see if Watson's on

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00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: the bottom. Yep, dead last in the NFL. And uh,

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00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: but then I always notice Herbert. It's like barely above him,

1098
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: like five spots.

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00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: There's something called watch.

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00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 8: I like hearing about your hobbies.

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00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: I'm totally joking. I just am saying that because I

1102
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: happen to notice that it's Watson here at the bottom.

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00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: But also you hate watching.

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00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 6: Uh, sometimes you'll watch like a movie that's so bad.

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00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 6: It's good. It's not really hate now your.

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00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: I mean our listener of NFL Daily, you guys hate

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00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: watch teams. I mean it's yeah, it's kind of like

1108
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: uh Bo Bonnie Jones, who has a great podcast. He said,

1109
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: like he gave up like rooting for some of his

1110
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: college football team, but he still roots against all the

1111
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: old ones. Like it's fun to hate on certain teams.

1112
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 2: It's fun to root root against teams.

1113
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 3: I colleagues are Philly. She's got a long lead.

1114
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 5: Yes, I know, starting naming every team in the league

1115
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 5: against them.

1116
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 8: Nobody likes us.

1117
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 7: I thought things were going downhill with with Justin Herbert.

1118
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 7: It's like week two, week three, and the local columnists

1119
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 7: there at the Athletic Daniel Popper is already having to

1120
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 7: write stories that say, who will protect Justin Herbert from himself?

1121
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 7: I mean that's yeah, that's a sign of a bad,

1122
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 7: bad way right now.

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00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: So I think we've done it. I think we've decided

1124
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: who has made not funny? The ones that we've just quarterbacks? Well,

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00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 2: who else did we need to mention?

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00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 7: We don't need to mention anyone. I'm just saying it's funny. Yeah,

1127
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 7: just Lea the people I know you, Greg, the subcotually

1128
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 7: the people you just completely.

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00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 6: Left well that they weren't in contention.

1130
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: Like we talked to Carr, who was close enough, but

1131
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: not close at all. I think we hit every name

1132
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: at least quickly that had a chance. There were no

1133
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 2: other nominations, and yeah, let's let's go through it again.

1134
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: The members of Quarterback Island. After four weeks in the

1135
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: NFL season, Dak is still on Back's wasn't sure. I

1136
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 2: thought someone was going to make a case against Dak.

1137
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure. No, Jared Goff is on, Matthew Stafford

1138
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: is on, Rock Purty is on, Josh Allen is on,

1139
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, c J Stroud, Patrick Mahomes. We've

1140
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: added three new members to Quarterback Island. Gino Smith, Jaden

1141
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: Daniels and Sam Darnold are on Quarterback Island. We never

1142
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: got back to your guy Baker, but I want him

1143
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: on Baker another time.

1144
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 6: You have a chance.

1145
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: It's a game of skill Quarterback Island. If you play

1146
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: well enough, we recognize you. Let's take a quick break.

1147
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: We got to do some news wasn't expected to, but

1148
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: we got a doozy when we got it to the

1149
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: studio back in a second, back on NFL Daily. Didn't

1150
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: think we were doing news today and.

1151
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 6: We got a wopper.

1152
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: Davante Adams has informed the team that he prefers to

1153
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: be traded. According to our insiders Ian Rappaport and Mike

1154
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: Gara Folo, the news comes on the same day that

1155
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce was noted to like a social media postings

1156
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: account could be traded.

1157
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 8: I probably what I'll say.

1158
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 2: It is crazy to have a coach liking comments like that.

1159
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 2: Part of the story. It doesn't matter now because it's

1160
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 2: it's just out there. This thing is moving quickly. Yes,

1161
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: it would seem if all the insiders are reporting that

1162
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: he wants to be traded espn Adam schefter already throwing

1163
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 2: out some possible terms a conditional second and maybe.

1164
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 6: Relating quickly something else.

1165
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: Consider it right, which I think we've been around long

1166
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: enough that if that's being thrown out there, what they're

1167
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: they're trying to negotiate through the media, They already have

1168
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 2: something maybe not quite as good in their pocket and

1169
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 2: seeing if they can do better.

1170
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 6: Steve, what do you think, Well.

1171
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 9: Unless somebody with the Jets is saying we'll give them

1172
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 9: a conditional second because you know that's going to be

1173
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 9: the speculation out for him to get back with Aaron Rodgers.

1174
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 9: And frankly, if you're the Jets right now, with your

1175
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 9: season the way it is, you do it. Oh yeah,

1176
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 9: this is a this is a ditch season for the Jets.

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00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 9: So you go out there and you do it. That's

1178
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 9: a less a team. I'm gonna give a couple of

1179
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 9: teams that I think should probably make a move like this.

1180
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 9: I think the Atlanta Falcons should go ahead and make

1181
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 9: a move like this. They need that type of receiver

1182
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 9: and that type of veteran on this roster to go

1183
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 9: ahead and add something to this. I think they want

1184
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 9: to get him out of the AFC if possible.

1185
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 3: But I mean, this is a situation where I think the.

1186
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 9: Falcons and the Jets should go ahead and say let's

1187
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 9: play ball, because you know, no one needs it more

1188
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 9: than a Chief. But they're not going to trade him

1189
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 9: to Kansas City.

1190
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: The second round pick is not a crazy I mean

1191
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: Mohammed san who got traded for a second round pick

1192
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: in a similar situation to the Patriots. DeVante Adams looked

1193
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 2: great in Week two plays Week three finishes, the game

1194
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: doesn't play week four, and then this all pops out.

1195
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: He was on Ky Adams' show on FanDuel and said,

1196
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 2: you know that he didn't know about the Antoni period.

1197
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 2: It just seems like this is all systems are firing.

1198
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: And it doesn't seem like it's just from Adams. It

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Speaker 2: seems like it's maybe from both.

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00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 9: Don't forget now the like came sometime between business decisions

1201
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 9: and him not playing as well. Right, Remember you cannot

1202
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 9: forget that. I'm not saying that Antonio Pierce is including

1203
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 9: him in the business decisions.

1204
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 3: But things are kind of.

1205
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 4: Nuclear the connecting of the dots here.

1206
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 8: We need a detective Weisch segment we.

1207
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 5: Do, which put us out there fluting around.

1208
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: So fired.

1209
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Speaker 5: This is something though, that was talked about in the summer,

1210
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 5: like this is not anything new. That teams were approaching

1211
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 5: the Raiders and trying to propose trades for Dvante Adams,

1212
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 5: and the Raiders supposedly turn them away, And so now

1213
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 5: they're in this situation where Davante Adams is clearly unhappy

1214
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 5: and they need to figure it out.

1215
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, and every every team calls on every big player

1216
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 7: like this. I mean it's but this is this was

1217
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 7: serious to your point, calling to the point where one

1218
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 7: of those teams was like leaking that that they were

1219
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 7: doing in order to sort of stoke the fire. Oh,

1220
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 7: is there something going on there, something that you have

1221
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 7: to address before the first day of the season begins

1222
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 7: in a press conference? Are there different things like just

1223
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 7: continuing to rekindle, rekindle, rekindle, rekindled. It would not surprise

1224
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 7: me if this has been going on, and this conversation

1225
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 7: has been happening with the front office and the coaching

1226
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 7: staff for several weeks now, and getting out in front

1227
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 7: of it would be to say, oh, I'd prefer to

1228
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 7: be traded.

1229
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 4: Maybe even longer too, if we know.

1230
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: How getting out in front of it from a coach

1231
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: might be saying the guy's making businesses well, you know.

1232
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 9: And also I don't think Gardner Minsh's coming to Quarterback Island.

1233
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 8: No, oh, we didn't even mention him.

1234
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 3: Let me ask Let me ask you this. Jordan just

1235
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 3: just got of curiosity.

1236
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 9: Are the Rams confident enough in Cooper Cup and Pooka

1237
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 9: Nakua's health not to get involved in making.

1238
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 3: A move like this.

1239
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 7: I don't put anything past the Rams in terms of

1240
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 7: making splash moves, especially maximizing what could be a final

1241
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 7: year before Stafford comes back to the negotiation table. I

1242
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 7: also didn't put it past them blowing everything up if

1243
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 7: it went continued to go south. However, like this is

1244
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 7: one of those things where you can't actually seriously say

1245
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 7: as a team that you are depending on the health

1246
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 7: of a receiver that hasn't made it through a full

1247
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 7: season in the last three years, as well as a

1248
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 7: receiver who's a bright and blossoming star but whose situation

1249
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 7: is going to be more significant time than initially thought

1250
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 7: in training and puk and Akua, and so I would

1251
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 7: not put it past them to make the call. Now

1252
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 7: they're going to be on that hinge though, of either

1253
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 7: you go all in in that direction, which they did

1254
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty two.

1255
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 8: They tried for Christian.

1256
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 7: McCaffrey in the last dish effort to save their season

1257
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 7: and then je and they didn't. But I'm specifically talking

1258
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 7: about like a horrible start in twenty twenty two, and

1259
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 7: they tried to go all in for Christian McCaffrey, trying

1260
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 7: to compete with Kyle Shanahan to get the job done,

1261
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden, their season completely imploded

1262
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 7: and they could not.

1263
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 6: Right they were in the mix for Brian Burns. That

1264
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 6: didn't happen.

1265
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: Let's go first, I now think Divini the Adams is

1266
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: never playing another snap again. For the rate this coming

1267
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: out the way it has, this thing could move quickly

1268
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: and unlike some of these trade situations where it takes forever,

1269
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: like this is DeVante Adams is a future Hall of Famer.

1270
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: The season is already started. People will want to get

1271
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: him into his building. The contract is an interesting part

1272
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: of it. He's not making much money this year, so

1273
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: actually contractually it's kind of a bargain. It saves the

1274
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: Raiders some money. It's not painful for them either. Next

1275
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: year he's due thirty five point six million, then a

1276
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: year after that thirty six point six So that's probably

1277
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: going to require some sort of renegotiation.

1278
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 6: Maybe not.

1279
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: I'm curious, like how much control he has in this process.

1280
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: We saw how much control Brandon aukad in that process.

1281
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: It is important, but this might just be a rental.

1282
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at like teams with Capsleece first of

1283
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: all with the forty nine ers.

1284
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 6: Ever think about it.

1285
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 2: Like sending deebo away and Raiders get someone bring him home.

1286
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 6: That's something.

1287
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: Browns have a wide receiver who's playing terribly. They have

1288
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: a ton of cap space. They're always in on these years.

1289
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 2: He's not right, he's not gonna want to go there.

1290
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: But if if he doesn't have much decision making, I

1291
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: could see the Browns in on it. The Patriots and

1292
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: the Steelers who were in on Ayuk, you would think

1293
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: would be teams that would be in on DeVante Adams.

1294
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 6: That's logical, Like the Lions.

1295
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: That's not a crazy and I'm going through the top

1296
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: to bottom of cap space team. The Lions have a

1297
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: ton of cap space and they could certainly use another

1298
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: wide receiver.

1299
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 6: So that's what I'm saying is like, I.

1300
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: Think this is gonna I think this is going to

1301
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: go somewhat quickly, and I think I think they'll do

1302
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: better than a conditional second. Am I crazy? I don't

1303
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: know crazy, like.

1304
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 3: A solid second. I mean, no one's giving up one.

1305
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 8: What I'm saying.

1306
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, Oh no, we would never give up

1307
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 2: a first round draft pick that we miss on fifty

1308
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: percent of the time for a future Hall of Famer

1309
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: who we know is going to help our team this year.

1310
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 3: Oh no, God, Troy Detroit is not giving up a

1311
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 3: first shir No.

1312
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: I get it. Some teams when I'm just the like

1313
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: the mind hive like, but we'll give up an extra

1314
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: first to trade up to go draft Marcus Davenport or

1315
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: LaVey or whatever.

1316
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: Like.

1317
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: People give up extra first all the time. When you

1318
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: get like, yeah, the Saints could be in the mix.

1319
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: They could certainly near to wide receiver like go for

1320
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: so many teams, this is fun.

1321
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 3: Oh Derek and DeVante?

1322
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 8: Uh huh.

1323
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1324
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 7: All I'm saying is when it comes out good clearly

1325
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 7: through a player's camp that he would prefer to be traded,

1326
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 7: that automatically tells teams on the outside, come get me

1327
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 7: for cheaper than you would have had to before.

1328
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1329
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 5: What I was gonna say before is that he's been

1330
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 5: unhappy for a while in Vegas, and he was very

1331
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 5: unhappy when Derek Carr left, so that makes total sense

1332
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 5: for him to end up maybe reuniting with him in

1333
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 5: New Orleans.

1334
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: Now, the Saints, they can pull off some salary cap

1335
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: voodoo like no other team, but they only have two

1336
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: point seven million dollars of space right now.

1337
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: They are going to be in cap hell for turn.

1338
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 2: He always figured out, So is it really hell.

1339
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 3: For the year.

1340
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 7: By the way, Steve, it just clicked for me to

1341
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 7: rams question for me, you know who the backup in

1342
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 7: Los Angeles is.

1343
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 8: Awkward.

1344
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 7: He's avoid eye contact walking down the hallway.

1345
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 6: This is great. Thank you to DeVante Adams.

1346
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 2: I've wanted the NFL to become more like the NBA

1347
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: with trades, and uh, this is what we need, a

1348
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: nice in season trade. And you know, even the Raiders

1349
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: are into it. Finny Bontignor, who covers the team locally,

1350
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: UH for their big paper there in Las Vegas, the

1351
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: Review Journal said that the Raiders are also open to it,

1352
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: and UH a source with knowledge of the situation, he

1353
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 2: doesn't say the Raiders. The source of the club has

1354
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 2: been reaching out to teams, so that words that wording

1355
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: reaching out to teams that the Raiders are reaching out.

1356
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 6: They're in on it too. Let's go this.

1357
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: Is the dude opting out out of out of well.

1358
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 2: And also he can be part of the Super Bowl

1359
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: race for some team. That's like a fun value.

1360
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 3: Add lots of trade on to the Panthers.

1361
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's talk let's talk about one of

1362
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: the teams. You said he would make some sense for

1363
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. It is time for our TNF preview

1364
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: presented by Prime Video Fun Game. Bucks and Falcons both

1365
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: coming off big wins. I think the Falcons have done

1366
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: a really nice job managing the season. I talk about

1367
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 2: this a lot. You're not going to be your full

1368
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: team right away. Sometimes you got some issues. They've got issues.

1369
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins can't move, they don't really have a great

1370
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: pass rush. But here they are at two and two

1371
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: against two wins teams, wins against pretty good teams. They

1372
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: have a really hard schedule initially, if you look at

1373
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: the back half, it's one of the easiest schedules in

1374
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: the league. Here's a home game in the division, a

1375
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: big game for both of these teams.

1376
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 6: Atlanta can kind of be buried by Tampa here.

1377
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: If you're down two games in the division and you

1378
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 2: had lost at home, that's a pretty decent lead for

1379
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: Tampa in the a NFC South Calleing, Yeah.

1380
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 5: I would expect the Bucks to obviously press sure Kirk

1381
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 5: Cousins here a ton in this game, the same way

1382
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 5: that they did to Jalen Hurts. And the Eagles. They

1383
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 5: sacked Hurts five times in that game. They generated their

1384
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 5: highest pressure rate two in a game in almost three years,

1385
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 5: So this was like an unbelievable amount of heat that

1386
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 5: they were throwing at him. Obviously, we know Kirk Cousins

1387
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 5: operates much better when he's not under pressure, as most

1388
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 5: quarterbacks do.

1389
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 4: But I love the fact that Falcons.

1390
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Falcons head coach Raheem Morris worked right alongside

1391
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 5: with Bucks offensive coordinator Liam Cohen with the Rams, and

1392
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 5: they went against each other in practice, so they know

1393
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 5: each other, they know each other's tendencies, and I'm really

1394
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 5: excited to see that kind of chess match come out.

1395
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 8: The last year. Yeah, Yeah, you know, it.

1396
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 7: Is going to be interesting because like kind of what

1397
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 7: we talked about when we were talking about quarterback Island

1398
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 7: is this is a real opportunity for Baker Mayfield to

1399
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 7: will some things to happen against a defense that's finding itself.

1400
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 7: But the secondary has been really solid for the Falcons. Yeah,

1401
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 7: and I think that especially catching some people by surprise

1402
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 7: a little bit. So I do think that this is

1403
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 7: a good matchup in terms of that multi layered, multi

1404
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 7: dimensional Liam Cullen eleven personnel and Chris Godwin is Cooper

1405
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 7: Cup now and like all of these things offense and

1406
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 7: really seeing how particularly some of the really savvy leaders

1407
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 7: and emerging stars in that Falcon secondary handle it right.

1408
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: They They've got three big time veteran star players in

1409
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: the same secondary, Jesse Bates, aj Terrell when he's playing right,

1410
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: and Justin Simmons is playing well, and they've gotten good

1411
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: production out of the other guys. So you're right, that's

1412
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: the strength and it's a tough matchup against a really

1413
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: good receiver group. I think Evans is getting better each week.

1414
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: I think there was maybe some injury stuff they weren't

1415
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: talking about. Chris Godwin is now their number one receiver

1416
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: by production. He looks like Chris Godwin from five years ago.

1417
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 2: He's having a great contract year right now. He has

1418
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: about one hundred yards more than Evans. He's making those

1419
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: plays after the catch. They're moving him inside and out

1420
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: of the slot, but a lot in the slot where

1421
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: I think he's at his best.

1422
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 6: And they were just picking the Eagles apart.

1423
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 2: They finally got their running game going last week after

1424
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: a pretty rough first three weeks of the season, a

1425
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: little better and It was a really good game plan

1426
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 2: by Liam Cohen. Just like, get the ball out to

1427
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: these guys. They can make plays after the catch and

1428
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: Evans in the red zone and it's a lot to

1429
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: deal with it. I think the Bucks have been a

1430
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 2: little steadier as a team overall than the fact.

1431
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 3: Well someone turned apart the Eagles secondary. That doesn't happen.

1432
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 4: It's been years of this look.

1433
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: I love it.

1434
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 9: Speaking of the Falcons defense, Jesse Bates might be the

1435
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 9: defensive player of the year right now, at least in

1436
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:41,479
Speaker 9: the contention the way.

1437
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 4: That I love that that he's played.

1438
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 9: Justin Simmons finally seems to be getting comfortable. I mean

1439
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 9: they really looked good as a tandem last week. We

1440
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 9: know aj Terrell he started out shaky. He's looking really

1441
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 9: good as well on the second thear I like that matchup.

1442
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 9: I just want to see if Atlanta's offense can deal

1443
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 9: with this defense, because yeah, the Bucks are bringing smoke.

1444
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 9: Kyle Pitts didn't have a catch last week. He could

1445
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 9: be someone who could be a blitz breaker, right if

1446
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 9: you get the ball to him that way. You know,

1447
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 9: Cousins and Drake London have got something working. Jonjon Bjon

1448
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 9: you know, he's something they've got going. I think this

1449
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 9: is gonna be a tough dust up, so to speak.

1450
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 9: I mean, I think it's gonna be a really really

1451
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 9: good game.

1452
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 7: A little bit shorthanded. Todd Bowles just has that juice

1453
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 7: still is. You know, he'll find He'll let go and

1454
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 7: find someone in the stands and literally pick them up

1455
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 7: and throw them at the quarterback as an extra rusher,

1456
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:40,439
Speaker 7: like he is sending this heat, these extra pressures. Kirk

1457
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 7: Cousins has struggled against that so far this season, just

1458
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 7: forty eight point five percent of his past his third

1459
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 7: lowest in the NFL against the Blitz.

1460
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 8: This is a concern.

1461
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 2: Look, the Falcons running game has not been very good

1462
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 2: this year, and that's because.

1463
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 9: Teams are loading up to stop it, like they're gonna

1464
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 9: make Kirk Cousins beat him.

1465
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it got better last week Tyler Alzier.

1466
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: It was the dude man an interesting moment. I was

1467
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 2: just like watching this, I'm like, oh, Algier gives him

1468
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 2: some juice. Like suddenly it started working in a different

1469
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 2: way with Algier and they ran with it. And Bijon

1470
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: is obviously incredible and is better on passing down certainly,

1471
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 2: but it's a tough combination. And you think, like Todd Bowles,

1472
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: he's always going to have a great run defense, like

1473
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: that's the one thing you know about him. A lot

1474
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: of the best run defenses in history were coached by

1475
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: Todd Bowles, including with the Jets. This one's thinks everyone's

1476
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: running on them every week, so it's that'll help a

1477
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 2: ton And he helped him on the goal line last week.

1478
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 2: Although even even in that game, like you know, Saquon

1479
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 2: just didn't have many touches. Not that that wasn't frustrating

1480
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 2: at all. All right, let's pick this game, tough one.

1481
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 2: I am so excited. I want everyone listening this deep

1482
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: into the show Quarterback on to join me and Gerald

1483
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: McCoy live on YouTube after this game.

1484
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 6: I'm very excited.

1485
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: I don't really know. I don't really know Jerald that well,

1486
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 2: but I came and I introduced myself to him. He

1487
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: had been very nice. Uh he had been part of

1488
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 2: broadcast boot camp, so met a little bit. But I'm

1489
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: really excited that he's going to be better.

1490
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 4: Wear your best jacket.

1491
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll be at the pddresser.

1492
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a good man.

1493
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 8: Don't wear this more like a cool whoam just kidding? No,

1494
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:11,439
Speaker 8: I just kidding. It looks great.

1495
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 6: This is a new purchase.

1496
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 8: I'll never wear. I went too far.

1497
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 2: I thought, like, we're not We decided we're not going

1498
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 2: island theme.

1499
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 3: We don't.

1500
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 6: They didn't have any island stuff.

1501
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 4: I had a big purge this year and a shirt.

1502
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: I'll be at home, and so will Jerald, and so

1503
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 2: I'll probably wear something cool. But like at home, I'll

1504
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: wear my best hoodie.

1505
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 3: I never wear Batman.

1506
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 2: Okay, but everyone should join us. We'll be live on

1507
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: YouTube about ten minutes after the game. Colleen, why don't

1508
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: you pick it? Okay, go ahead.

1509
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 5: I'm taking the Bucks in this one, and they have

1510
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 5: to win this one. I mean, this is arguably their

1511
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 5: most difficult stretch right now in their schedule. They have

1512
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 5: three divisional games in four weeks, and then they also

1513
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 5: have the Ravens, the Chiefs, and the Niners coming up.

1514
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 4: So this is a game that I think the Bucks

1515
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 4: will win.

1516
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 5: They've been on fire, and the Falcons offense just can't

1517
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 5: come together yet, Like they have so much potential and

1518
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 5: they just haven't been able to unlock it.

1519
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 4: And I just don't think it's going to happen this game.

1520
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 7: I agree with all your points. I am taking the

1521
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 7: Falcons though, just because I this this secondary, you know,

1522
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 7: for the I think that they're just gonna mess with

1523
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 7: this past game, and I think that's that's going to

1524
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 7: be one of the deciding factors in this game.

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 8: So I'm taking the Falcons.

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01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: Short week road team on Thursday and football, not like

1527
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 2: it's a long trip or anything, just the way the

1528
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 2: seat Like, I just feel like these two teams feel

1529
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 2: like three and two teams to me. Sometimes I don't

1530
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 2: make it any smarter than that. And so that would

1531
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 2: mean that the Falcons get a win at home. I

1532
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 2: think teams that win games like I feel like they're

1533
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: lucky to be two and two win games they maybe

1534
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: shouldn't have. They usually start playing better and then they

1535
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 2: win games like because they actually earn it. So they're

1536
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: one and a half point favorites at home. If it

1537
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 2: was in Tampa, I'd probably go Bucks, but I'll go Falcons.

1538
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 5: Ba Baker's never going to make the Island at this rate,

1539
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 5: but he's got four weeks.

1540
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 2: Four weeks, But I don't feel strong about this. I'm

1541
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: my heart. I'm rooting for the Bucks because I want

1542
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 2: a happy Gerald McCoy after the game.

1543
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 3: Kurko chains though he might be making I like the

1544
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 3: Falcons here. How about this.

1545
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 9: This is the third consecutive primetime game the Falcons have had.

1546
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 9: When is the last time you can say that?

1547
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: Wow?

1548
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is crazy. It was an interesting move.

1549
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 2: I noticed that early from the schedule makers that like,

1550
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 2: we're going big on Kirk oh uh to start the season.

1551
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 5: Mike North really loves Atlanta Falcons.

1552
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 2: All right, that was TF preview presented by Prime Video.

1553
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: Be sure to watch the Tampa Bay Buccaneers take on

1554
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons this Thursday on Prime Video. Thank you

1555
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: for watching NFL Daily. This wasn't just any show. This

1556
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 2: was a Quarterback Island show. Did we do your your concept?

1557
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 2: Proud executive producer Jordan Rods.

1558
01:10:55,160 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 7: And supporting actor. Yes, Yeah, this is the great. This

1559
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 7: is a joy every Tuesday.

1560
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 6: So thank you well.

1561
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 4: I love today's show.

1562
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm giving. I'm giving a yes for today's show. Steve,

1563
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: will you be back with us in a month for

1564
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: the next glitter I.

1565
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 9: Will and kirkle Change is going to make it because

1566
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,879
Speaker 9: there's new wide receiver Davante Adams oh there you go, Island.

1567
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 2: All right, thanks again for watching NFL Daily. We'll be

1568
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 2: back with our preview show, Steve working overtime this week

1569
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: will be with myself and Patrick Clayban and yeah, you

1570
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: know when Sam Darnold is on quarterback freaking Island and

1571
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 2: I'm hitting Colleen, football is back.

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01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 8: Oh my god,