1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites the podcast. This is a very 2 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: special bonus episode coming out today Thursday. It's me Chad 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Milner from the Action Network, my beautiful brother black Jack 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: Fletcher and and on the phone from America's Heartland, host 5 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: of the Pat McAfee show. Two point Oh, Mr Pat McAfee. 6 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: What's going on, brother Chad? Thank you so much for 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: having me, black Jack Fletch can't wait to join you. 8 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: And also congratulations on sunny Darren Rovell to the Action Network. 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: Big things happening over there to honor to join you boys. 10 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Thank you excited black Jack? Uh? Pat, you're having a 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: massive week. You got your podcast, You've been on ESPN, 12 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: you're broadcasting games. How's all this shapen up for you? 13 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: How are you feeling about all the game? Just one game? Pat? 14 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: How was it having a live mike in front of 15 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: you for three hours? It was a wild scene. Honestly, 16 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: it was like a dream, you know it was. I 17 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: thought when I left the NFL UM I honestly thought 18 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: that I could bring a little something to the game 19 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: of football, whether it be covering the game, however, I 20 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: would do it. Anything like that. And the Sundays if 21 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: you watch all My social media has become like a 22 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: four the brand Sunday basically where I cover fourth downs 23 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: trying to give a little love, you know, s the 24 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: d of my fellow peers, punters and kickers. And I 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: always wanted to call like an actual game with a network. 26 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 1: But I was rejected from the broadcast boot camp twice, 27 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: which is what all NFL players get to go to basically, 28 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: and that's how all these guys get these jobs. They 29 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: get to shake hands with the people at Fox and 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: ESPN and CBS and NFL network. I was rejected twice 31 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: from going to that, so I never knew if it 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: was gonna happen. And then finally I got the incredible 33 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: opportunity through Fox Sports One and I had a last 34 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: doing it. I enjoyed it a lot. Shawn Kelly and 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: a Jhawk tocare me. The Baylor Bears beat the Texas 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Tech in the Texas Shootout way in Cliff King's very 37 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: last game. It was just a blast. I just had 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: an absolute blast with it. So hold on, tell me 39 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: a little bit more about this boot camp, because this 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: is this is news to me. Here. Why did they 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: reject you? You're you're you're a magnetic, electric human being. 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: Why would they not want you? That means a lot. 43 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: Everything you just said made me feel very good deep 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: down in my loins. I don't know, honestly, I don't know. 45 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: I think it's because my Twitter. I would swear on 46 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: my Twitter and I was just I was just stand 47 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: up to Median. It was just I have no idea why. 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: And also I was a punter, right I'm not a quarterback. 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm not. If I was a quarterback right now, I 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: think I'd probably be calling Monday Night Football if I 51 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: had a guest. But I was a punter. So it's 52 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: just the way it goes, and I I just kind 53 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: of had to fall in line almost in the way 54 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: they viewed my position and me as uh. I just 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I got rejected twice though, and it 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: was I've never been really I never replied for colleges 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: because I got a scholarship to West Virginia to kick 58 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: and that education level very low to get in there, 59 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: so I was accepted there. I've never got like two 60 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: rejection letters in my life from anything. And then broadcast 61 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: boot Camp the NFL, I got two of them. So 62 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: it's it's a nearly unprecedented for a punter to come 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: out of the NFL and develop a media career. How 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: did you ever think, How did you even think, yeah, 65 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: this is what I can get into. How does a 66 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: punter break out as a personality. I don't know, to 67 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: be honest, I have no idea. I think social media 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: helps out a lot. I think it's it doesn't matter 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: the position. It's it's not the it's not the arrow, 70 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: it's the Native American, you know what I mean. It's 71 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: not the position, it's the human, the human behind it. 72 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: And um, I was finding a lot of success whenever 73 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: I was on the Twitter or on social media. I 74 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: got a chance to be on the Bob and Thom's Show, 75 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: which was a morning show that syndicated across the country 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: based out of here in Indianapolis. Have been done for 77 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: like thirty years. I sold like ten thousand tickets for 78 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: a comedy tour and I think thirty eight seconds. I 79 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: was just I was having a lot of success off 80 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: the field, but with my foundation and with trying to 81 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: make the world laugh a little bit. So I don't 82 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: know how it all happened. I just know that it 83 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: eventually did happen, and I had enough confidence in myself 84 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: that I decided to leave the NFL whenever I wasn't 85 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: enjoying it anymore, and I've been having a blast with it. 86 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: It could all come crashing down, it could, and maybe 87 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: I end up in the Alcoholics Anonymous Football League. Whatever 88 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: you're not. You're not an alcoholic. Alcoholics A quitters you. 89 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: You and I prefer the same term. I think that's drunk. 90 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: I uh, I only do the vitamins now, to be 91 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: honest with you, every once in a while, I'll chug 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: a Bruhi every once in a while, like the good 93 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: old days, maybe slam Sym vodka. But I'm all on 94 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: the vitamins now. I like the long, I like the vape, 95 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: and I like the stuff cones full of vitamins and 96 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: just smoke them. Rory to my face on a very 97 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: regular pace. Very nice. All right, let's see if we 98 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: can break some news on this podcast. Yes or no, 99 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: Levian Bell is going to the cults, So it wouldn't 100 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: be breaking news on this podcast. It would have been 101 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: on my show, like four months ago. I said that 102 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: to other people. I have no idea. He does seem 103 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: to be very active on all the cold stuff on 104 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: social media. He's been doing it since before training camp, 105 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: so he's been every post that the NFL would post 106 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: on their Instagram, he would comment with like fire or 107 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: eyes or something. If it was t Y Hill and 108 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: Andrew luck Lin, Terry anything. It was very obvious that 109 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: he had his eyes set on the coats since before 110 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: this entire missed the entire season drama happened to be honest. 111 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: So I think he knows that the cults are a 112 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: good situation. There's a hundred and some million dollars in 113 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: space in the cap. They got a young quarterball. Oh 114 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: not really. I got Andrew luck pe In like the 115 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: six year really good quarterback, a good offense like young culture. 116 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: I think Glavyon bell Is is calculated and he's been 117 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: doing this on purpose. But I as a cult span 118 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: now would love to see him in the backfield. I think, uh, 119 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: it might be like a one year deal, maybe a 120 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: two year deal where they pay him a handsome amount 121 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: like Darrell Rivas was treated back in the day, and 122 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: just kind of bring him in like a mercenary and 123 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: see what he's got, because the rapper doesn't look great 124 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: right now. But if he gets back into shape like 125 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: he was when he was running back. I think I 126 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: could help our team e mentally. Okay, all right, I 127 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: have a question, Pat. I want to ask you, because 128 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: you obviously spent a long time in the NFL locker rooms, 129 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: and you know, as people that sit here, we talk 130 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: about gambling all the time. Do the guys in the 131 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: locker room pay attention to point spreads? Because you'll hear 132 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: people talk about it like this team is a seven 133 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: point dog, or you know they're they're only favored by 134 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: three against this opponent, and you know that's motivation for them. 135 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: Does anyone in the locker room give a shit about 136 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: the point spread? Do they know what it is that 137 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: they care about it? And I mean this when I 138 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: say it. Whenever you get in the NFL, it is 139 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: and he it in college too. It is drummed in 140 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: your head so hard, pounded there, like don't be the 141 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: pete rose, don't gamble on it. It's big and now granted, 142 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: now that it's becoming legal nationally, I don't know what's 143 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: gonna happen federally. I guess it's becoming legal. I don't 144 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: know if it will change, but it was really pounded 145 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: in our heads, especially I was a kicker in college. 146 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: So I mean I had a position where if somebody 147 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: really wanted to come funk with me, they had They 148 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: had old mafia guys come and speak to us about 149 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: how they were cooking games and spreads and stuff. It's 150 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: really a scare tactic used and it worked for every 151 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: guy I've been around. I mean the NFL, you never 152 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: hear a top there. There's so much other stuff to 153 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: worry about, the spreads on games or not even talked about. 154 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: And to be honest, I didn't even really understand why 155 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: people enjoyed gambling whatever I was playing. Oh, all my 156 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: friends are degenerates. I grew up around a lot of Italians. 157 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: They gamble on games. I didn't really understand, Like, why 158 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: are you betting on a game where we don't even 159 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: know if we're gonna fucking win, Like we don't even 160 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: have a cool who's gonna show up? I have no 161 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: idea if I'm gonna have a good game and you're 162 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: gambling that I'm going to I think it's stupid, But 163 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: then once I retired, boy, I fucking love it. I 164 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: don't know how anybody wants in the game without I 165 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: don't have anybody watching this game without money on anything. 166 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: It's the best, the greatest thing on earth. What do 167 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: you love about it? It's just you have a horse 168 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: in the race, and every single fucking race it's like 169 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm watching some no game in the middle of nowhere, 170 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, I'm just pulling really 171 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: hard for a quarterback to get hot because we need points, bro, 172 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: we need some points with the quickness. It's just it 173 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: makes every game interesting. You you have a horse in 174 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: the race, and it feels and this sounds crazy, but 175 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: when I was a putter in the league, like I 176 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: had like I felt like, okay, I have like I'm watching. 177 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: I had a front row seat to the Indianapolis Colts 178 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: for eight years straight, Super Bowl, the undefeated year until 179 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: we decided to lose. I was watching games and it 180 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: was like I had a front row seat. I was 181 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: the biggest fan of the Cults in history. Now Grant, 182 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: every once in a while, I have to go out there, 183 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: send the ball to the other team, kind of walk 184 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: back off the field, do my But it feels as 185 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: if I have like an actual you know, I have 186 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: skin in the game. And that's what gambling is. And 187 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: I very much understand why everybody loves it. I understand 188 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: why it's a huge business and right now, to be honest, 189 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: it's my favorite. It's one of my favorite things to do. 190 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things to do. That's awesome 191 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: that I want to play a little word association with you. 192 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a name and you just tell me 193 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: the first thing that comes to mind. Okay, do I 194 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: have to say like one word or can it be 195 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: whatever pops in your head? Ryan, I think he was 196 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,599 Speaker 1: just an unwarranted, arrogant human. That's where I think I 197 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: think he he was. He just I think he had 198 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: in his head what he had to act like to 199 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: be a good GM, and then he just kind of 200 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: took it too far. Now do I think he maybe 201 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: learned from it? I have no idea. But I did 202 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: not enjoy him, and I don't think a lot of 203 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: people did. As the GM of the Colts, Bruce Arians, 204 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 1: Oh gee, dog, that guy's the best. That guy is 205 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: the absolute best. I I was very lucky to be 206 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: there for the year that he finally got to be well. 207 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: And I mean it happened because Chuck was battling leukemia. 208 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: But Bruce Arians has never given like a head coach, 209 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: really opportunity before that. The guy has been touching since 210 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: like with Bear Bryant, he was coaching, and that year, 211 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: whenever Chuck was battling leukemia, Bruce Arians kind of just 212 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: got handed the reins of the team there and watching 213 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: him kind of adapt and adjust and find his way 214 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: was really cool in a in a very very difficult 215 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: circumstance because one of his best friends was going through 216 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: leukemia battle too at the same time. I I love 217 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. I don't think he's great on the mic, though. 218 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: I think they need either get him a new booth 219 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: to be in or they need to let him just 220 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: be wide open a little bit more. I don't think 221 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: he's he's enjoying it, but he is one of the 222 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: coolest dudes I've ever played for. Bart Scott Louk, Who 223 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: the fuck it is? That is the last thing Bart 224 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: Scott said to me in person. Uh. And the coach 225 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Jets game at the Indianapolis when I think the Jets 226 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: hit a game winning field goal against US and why 227 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: old card or playoffs, I almost got my ass met 228 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: by Bart Scott and that's Uh. I think he's I 229 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: think he was a good leader for a long time. 230 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: I just I almost got my ass kicked by him. 231 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: Why what what did you do that? Mom? Kick yours 232 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: long story chat? I mean there was after a field 233 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: goal minitary or an extra point? Is a field goal 234 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: or an extra point? Minitary kicks extra point. Bart Scott's 235 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: walking act like from he was playing defensive end, I 236 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: believe at the time for the field goal block. He's 237 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: walking back to his sideline after the field goes goes through, 238 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: and he's about to just walk directly through Adam Vinitary 239 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: like he's about to hit Adam Vinyitary, and I'm standing 240 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: there watching it. So I push him right out of 241 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: the way, and obviously that's causes him to turn around 242 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: for a second. So he turns around and looks at me, 243 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: and there's an altercation there between he and I where 244 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: I can't back down because all this is on film, 245 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: so we're gonna be watching this in the meeting room 246 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 1: the next day. I kind of did something out of 247 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: the ordinary. I pushed him so he wouldn't hit Minitary 248 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: because Vinny's a legend, He's All of Famer. We had 249 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: a back and forth. Ryan Dean, one of our offensive lineman, 250 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: had to be like, what the fun does that have about? 251 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: I have no idea. And then literally the following kickoff 252 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: there I think it was Antonio Crimarti brings it out 253 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: of the end zone all the way down their sideline. 254 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: I make a tackle, I spall out on their sideline 255 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: and I'm literally laying at the feet of Bart Scott 256 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: and it's He's like, well, who the fuck it is? 257 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: And I just kind of like, I like on all fours, 258 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: I sturry off of their sideline, basically, it felt like, 259 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: and get back into the onto the field over to 260 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: the sideline. I told video, I'm like, you're never gonna 261 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: guess who I layered it in front of on the 262 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: other sid I'm gonna shop my pants. I almost have 263 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: shipped my pants right now. Vinny almost gonna ask Arts 264 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: Carter with there. That is fucking classic. I didn't realize 265 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: the second half of that story. That is too funny. 266 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: Oh thanks, Jed. I appreciate that. It's just I end 267 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: up in uh, I end up been very ridiculous situations, Jed. 268 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking my life is littered with just 269 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: ridiculous mention. Now, I think that's now. You mentioned ridiculous 270 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: events and and I want to I want to mention 271 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: one story that I've heard you tell before. Among the 272 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: many things you do, stand up comedy, the Pat McAfee show, 273 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: all the stuff you've got going on, you're also part 274 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: of w W E, S n x T pre shows. 275 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: And I believe, if I'm not mistaken, you've got a 276 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: wrestling ring out in your barn, right, Yeah, can you 277 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: tell us a story about how you got that ring? Thanks, 278 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: fletch Um. I was Chad. You probably don't know anything 279 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: about this, and I'm excited for you to really learn 280 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: a lot about me here. So I wasn't supposed to 281 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: have money, Chad. Okay, I wasn't supposed to be the Yeah, 282 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: I was not supposed to have money. It was people, 283 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: and I think I was probably one of them when 284 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: I was growing up or in college, and you hear 285 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: about these athletes who just make ridiculous purchases and ship 286 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: like that, and you're like, oh, you know, act like 287 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: you've been there before. It's hard to act like you've 288 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: been there before if you've never been there before. If 289 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: you look at your bank account and you see like 290 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: six figures in there, whatever you and your family have 291 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: had like three figures in there for your entire life. 292 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: It's really hard not to just be like, yo, I 293 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: would like that, that and that and I Apparently one 294 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: evening when I was very blacked out, I made a 295 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: a childhood and nostalgia purchase because I walked up to 296 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: my get my mail one time. It was year I 297 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: forget what year in the league. It was early in 298 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: my career. I walked out to give my mail, classic, 299 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: just wearing a robe, and I had a little bit 300 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: of a long driveway because I got a little house 301 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: with some land out here in Indiana. And I go 302 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: to open the mailbox and an eighteen wheler shows up 303 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: out front, and guy pops out of the truck and 304 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: he's got like a sweat band on jeans that are 305 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: kind of like, uh, what's that called whitewah, but whitewash, 306 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: white wash, stone washing like stone washing jeans on like 307 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: just classic. And he goes out, where do you want 308 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: me to put this thing? Is this question? And I 309 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: go like, this is an eighteen wheeler stopped in front 310 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: of my house. I live in a residential area. This 311 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: is a weird situation. The neighbors have to be looking at, 312 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: like what the fox is going on here, So I say, 313 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: what is it? He goes a professional wrestling ring. I've 314 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: never delivered one to a home before. Only is where 315 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: do you want me to put this thing? I was like, 316 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: I think you're at the wrong house, buddy, And he 317 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: pulls out the receipt for the wrestling ring and it's 318 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: his small business. He votes like one wrestling ring every 319 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: five months and then he delivers it. It's kind of 320 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: his boat, you know, you Pat motherfucking McAfee. And I 321 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that's me. He said, well, I didn't 322 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: know if this order was real or not, but we 323 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: don't get a lot of orders, so I definitely took 324 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: your money and made this. Uh where do you want 325 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: to put? I was like, I guess, just put it 326 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: in the barn. And I found out that day, um 327 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: that yeah, I bought a wrestling ring. I guess one 328 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: latent when I had more clue and just on the internet. Somehow, 329 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: in the annals of the Internet, I found this guy 330 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: who's a one man off oration building wrestling rings in 331 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: Kentucky and he drove that thing four hours to my 332 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: house and I had no clue. He said the order 333 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: was like like five months ago. I'm like, how the 334 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: funk am I supposed to remember this? It was fine? 335 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: So I have no idea that wrestling ring is still there. 336 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: In my ring, it's provided about minutes of entertainment to 337 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: me and my friends. It's things like falling on concrete. 338 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: It's a very I think I should have upgraded a 339 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: little bit. That's on me. I went a little cheap 340 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: on the ring. So if I come out to Indianapolis, 341 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: can we sunk around the ring? Yeah? You can, for sure. 342 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit older. The ring is. It was 343 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: a bad ring, and I think if I if I 344 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: had to judge Pat motherfucking McAfee for one thing, it 345 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: was that he definitely cheaped out on the purchase. I 346 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: think there could have been an upgrade with a little 347 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: bit more padding, hopefully, because that thing hurt like hell. 348 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: But you come out to Indie Fletch, you can go 349 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: off the top rope if you want. You can do 350 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: whatever that god damn pleases you. What you are getting 351 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: into rest sling, tell me about what you're doing and wrestling. 352 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't know so right now. It's just it's one 353 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: of those things where I've been a fan forever, you know, 354 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: I grew up in the attitude there, which was the 355 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: greatest era of wrestling and history, and I've just followed 356 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: along with it. I enjoyed the fact that it's a 357 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: male soap opera with comedy entertainment some action in their 358 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: drama too. I mean, it's it's everything, and I've just 359 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: I've been a fan for so long and Triple H 360 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: and Michael Cole reach out to me to to kind 361 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: of come do some work on an NXT pre show, 362 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: which is their panel basically, it's their pre show. I 363 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: did some of that. The conversations have continued to evolve 364 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: and now we're just kind of seeing where it goes. 365 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: They they've they've created such an incredible business and uh, 366 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to learn from it. Kind of get 367 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: in there and we'll see what happens. I would like 368 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: to be the United States Champion, though basically the president 369 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: at some point US Champion. Amazing. So so now that 370 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: you're involved with w you a little bit and you're 371 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: involved in gambling. Now having that insight into the company, 372 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna a bet heavy on Wrestling Ania this year. 373 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: They wouldn't tell me anyways. By the way, the w 374 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: W E is very impressive at keeping things inside. The 375 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: only things that get out are the things that they 376 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: want out. It's such a small group of people making 377 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: all the decisions that anything that it's it's really a 378 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: family operation there. I mean I man a couple of times, 379 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: but it's legitimately a fiperation. The people making the decisions 380 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. It's a tight group in there, 381 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: and it's it's really an impressive model. In two thousand eighteen, 382 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: when everything seems to get leaked, they can figure it 383 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: all out. So will I gamble on w W E No, 384 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: But I also wouldn't know. I have some follow ups here. First, 385 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: how is Vince McMahon in person? It was, it was 386 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: it was a very wild, surreal moment, you know, because 387 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: you see him on the TV and you you you 388 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: know that this man has created this monster enterprise publicly 389 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: traded two million subscribers a month pan. That's just the 390 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: beginning of their business. Just shook my inn incident Hello, 391 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: and then walked away. It was I was like one 392 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: point five seconds I think it was. I think it 393 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: was maybe a two second interaction Hello, and then he 394 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: just walked away, And I was like, oh ship, that 395 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: just happened he had a great suit on, and then 396 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: always a great suit. And then this last time he 397 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: was in the same restaurant as me, and it was 398 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: another one second interaction a loop. So I I think 399 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: maybe at some point I'll be able to uh to 400 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: really chat with the man. I doubt it. You know. 401 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: The really interesting note about Innseentt Man. His neighbor is 402 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: Chad Newman in Grenni's Connecticut. Actually like me, I'm surprised 403 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't. He treats me the same way he treats you. 404 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: But I'm surprised that, like you're a brand name who's 405 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: coming into to their brand, I'm surprised he wasn't like, 406 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: great to see you. Were so excited. You're a board. 407 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: We think we can do big things together. Like I 408 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: think there'd be some wining and dining there. So I'm 409 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: Triple H is the guy who's my boss. Triple H 410 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: my boss because he runs an XT, he runs the 411 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: Orlando Performance Center. I'm pretty sure he's that I directly 412 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: report to, and he is very nice. There's a guy 413 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: that people have said I looked like for a long time, 414 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: but a man who I've looked up to forever is 415 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: now I get to chat with him every time a 416 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: guy get text messages from him. It's a very interesting thing. 417 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: But he and Michael Cole are the people I directly 418 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: uh communicate with. I'm not even sure and those I exist. 419 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: I think he probably asked one time, who's the guy 420 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: of the orts? So, so, what do you what do 421 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: you call Triple as? You call him Triple H Hunter, Paul? 422 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: What do you what do you call him? Sir? He 423 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: has nicknames. He has fort or five nicknames, and you 424 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: just have to keep up with it because they'll be 425 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: telling a story about him saying something and they'll call 426 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: him by like trips another name. He has forty five 427 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: different names. I just you just because he has his 428 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: all of his w W E names. Then he has 429 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: his actual his actual name, and then there's other nicknames 430 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: that have just been garnered through like thirty years now, 431 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: traveling on the road with people. It's he does have 432 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: forty five different names. I call him Mr Rah That's 433 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: what I Hey, there's another name. There's another name we 434 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: should have we should have asked about for your name association. 435 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: This might be the most interesting guy in the cult franchise. 436 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: Jim rcy Hey brother. He's the best man. I love 437 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: Jim Rcy, Jim Mercy. And now granted this happens with 438 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: every particular job. Like the owner of the company is 439 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: the one giving you the money, so like that guy 440 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: is affording you or girl that guy or girl, that's 441 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: very That was terrible at me. I was directly referencing 442 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: Jim Mercy there. That guy was huge in my life. Obviously, 443 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: whenever I got arrested. Um, I think he was one 444 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: of the reasons why Wolpen cuts. I think whenever my 445 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: contract was up, Ryan Grigson definitely wanted to get rid 446 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: of me, and he said, I, no, actively he's not leaving. 447 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: He is just Uh. He's a guy who was a 448 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: fan of mine and I got a chance to chat 449 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: with when not a lot of people did. He would 450 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: come to practices and kind of hang out with the 451 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: scouting side of things or with his little his little 452 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: team of people around him. He would come up and 453 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: talk to me in Vinitary every single time, and I 454 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: I grew quite a relationship with that man who has 455 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: lived him and John Mellencamp of wrote a hundred songs. 456 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: They got mccaym just waiting to release one day I uh, 457 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: I feel like with gambling becoming more and more prevalent 458 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL, eventually figuring out what it's gonna do, 459 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: Jim Murs will be a guy. And I say, there's 460 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: only not knowing anything about him other than sort of 461 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: what I've read is a guy who would be full 462 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: on proponent of figuring out a way to make gambling 463 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So it's I think Jerry Jones is 464 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: gonna be the guy. He's already invested in Draft kings 465 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: pretty heavily. I think Jerry Jones is probably the guy 466 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna really push forward hard. But I think I 467 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: think Jim Mersey's I mean, this guy is like a Rocks. 468 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: You talk to him as if you're talking to like 469 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: a creative rock star. So like if you would listen 470 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: to like Tom Petty interviews or anything like that, like 471 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: that's who you're talking to whenever you're talking to Jim Marcy. 472 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: So I think Jim Rcy will definitely embrace the gambling thing, 473 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: but I think he'll do it in his own way. 474 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be like, uh, the first team 475 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: out doing something. I think it'll be something where they'll 476 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: sit back and figure out how to do it. He's 477 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: he's got a creative mind. The dude is. I'm telling you, 478 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: you have a five minute conversation with him. It's a 479 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: it's an hour long conversation with him because he's rolling 480 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: and it's just it is. It's an impressive little mind. 481 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: He's got up there. Now. Patty, you're you're as close 482 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: to the Colts as as any former player. You were 483 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: there a couple of weeks ago, dressed up as an 484 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: old man kicking field goals. It's an awesome video. Um, 485 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: I think the cults right now plus three hundred to 486 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: win that division this year? Are you taking those odds? 487 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: The Houston Texans are so good right now. The Houston Texans. 488 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: This is the this is the interesting thing here, Frank Raich. 489 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: Early in the season they were one in two. The 490 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: Houston Texans were oh and three. I believe throwaway decision 491 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: over time fourth in two forty seconds, left own side 492 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: throwaway decision by Frank Raig. Fuck it, we're not gonna 493 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: We're not gonna go for a tie. We're gonna go 494 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: for a winner of loss. They end up losing right there. 495 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: That starts to Houston Texans eight game win streak. That 496 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: turns around the Colts season as well. Pretty much. They 497 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: start getting on board with Frank, they start buying in 498 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more. That throwaway decision right there could 499 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: be something that's big in the end, because I mean 500 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: it's a collision course with the Texans to see if 501 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: they can stumble and if the Colts can stay hot. 502 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: I would not take the plus three and right now, 503 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I like, I will put money on there, 504 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: because like I said, I'm not supposed to have money. 505 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: That seems like a bet I should put us, but 506 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm not hot. I think in the I think next year, 507 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: I think culture gonna be very good. Darius Leonard is 508 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: a maniac and it's his nickname, and he actually is 509 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: on the defense. They got a lot of money to 510 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: spend with and they've got a young culture, so I 511 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: think yet next year maybe, but that throwaway decision is 512 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: gonna be one that we look back upon. I think 513 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: later in the season is gonna be like this was 514 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: an interesting This was a very interesting decision because it's 515 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: spurred the Houston Texans wind streak and it also could 516 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: have motivated the Poet's locker room to get behind Frank 517 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: reikmore so, I think that throwaway decisions would be a 518 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: big deal later settle a settle debate for me and 519 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: black Jack. So this will be on the podcast. This 520 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: this podcast coming out Thursday. Then black Jack and I 521 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: do our favorite podcast on Friday, and we have been 522 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: debating the Cults as four point favorites on the road 523 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: at Jacksonville. He loves the Colts. I want to pass. 524 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: We have a million reasons why Jacksonville just seems like 525 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: there's so much drama happening. There's so much, and drama 526 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: is never good. I mean, the teams that win seemed 527 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: to keep everything inside the locker room. That's why I like, 528 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are a really good team. I 529 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: think they're I think they'll never get back to the 530 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: Big One because all the drama that just seems to 531 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: emulate from Big Ben in that offense drama. It's hard 532 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: enough to win games in the NFL without any of it, 533 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: especially when there's a lot of emotion too. That defense 534 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: down there in jackson has got a lot of emotion. 535 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: Blake Portals getting bench might lead them to maybe play 536 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: a little better because I think that Blake Portal is 537 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: getting a huge contract was kind of uh, maybe a 538 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: wedge in that team. It might be something that started 539 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: to drive them apart after them potentially being like a 540 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: really big team in the a f C. I just 541 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: I think the cults are so hot right now. It's 542 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: a division game. I took the money line Montitute twelve. 543 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: Uh four and a half seems to be like that's 544 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: something they could think. Yeah, I mean, to me, the 545 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars look like they've quit. I mean they look like 546 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: they're done. And and yeah, I mean Bortles is bench 547 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: this week, but it's Cody Kessler man like, it's I'm sorry, 548 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: no way a lock. Actually to me, now that I 549 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: think about it, the minus four is it four and 550 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: a half or four four four? That seems like a luck? 551 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, Pat. That's just interesting to me. Do you 552 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: feel like there's a handicap for emotion, like you know, 553 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: as a player, you look at that and see that 554 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: that's all I bet on. By the way, I picked 555 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: the most wild reasons to like. For instance, of both 556 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: last game, Reggie Wayne was going into the Ring of honor. 557 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: There was no way in fucking hell that t Y 558 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: Hilton wasn't gonna ball out Andrew Muck wasn't gonna ball out. 559 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: There was no way in hell that wasn't gonna happen 560 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: with all the O G s. That's all I bet on, 561 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: to be honest, And I don't know how because this 562 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: is the difference everybody because fantasy football, everybody thinks that 563 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: the NFL is maddened. Everybody thinks there's these these these 564 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: people aren't humans that they don't give more effort without 565 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: even knowing it, or give less effort without even knowing 566 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: it for certain reasons. You look at that Raiders even 567 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: looks like they've completely fucking quit. Have no idea how 568 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: anybody could bet on them for the rest of the 569 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: year because you have no idea who's showing up. They 570 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: want people literally just quitting and leaving. They don't even 571 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: want to play there anymore good players. Interesting about the 572 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: Raiders and the Jaguars, that is fucking bullshit. I did 573 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: not want to bet the Raider. I didn't want to 574 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: bet the Raiders. I didn't want to bet the Jaguars. 575 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to bet on the favorites in 576 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: those games. But here's my much, here's my point. When 577 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: you're playing in the NFL, and you're saying, you know, 578 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne is there and all the o g s 579 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: for the culture there, and they're gonna play great. After 580 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: the first quarter, you've been hitting each other for fifteen minutes. 581 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: Doesn't that sort of extra kick of emotion wear away 582 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: and you're just playing the game and executing a game plan. No, see, 583 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: I think I think it's all about the week in advance. 584 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: Everything is dialed in a little bit more. Not Granted, 585 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: I never hit anybody for a quarter, so I mean 586 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: I never had that moment where I was like, yeah, 587 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: hit but yeah, well no, no I pushed them. It 588 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: wasn't really, but but it is, Mike Tyson sai. Everybody 589 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: has a plan until you get punched in the face. 590 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: Luckily for me happened. So, but it's the whole week 591 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: leading up to it. It's just the culture, the environment 592 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: of the practice, the meetings, everything is like, Yo, the 593 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: o g s are coming in this weekend. They probably 594 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: stopped by practice earlier. And those are guys that Andrew 595 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: luck and t Y Hilton leaned upon earlier in their career. 596 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: They're really tight with them. That just seemed like for me, 597 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: that type of emotion, I don't think you can, you 598 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: can second guess. And I think that was something I 599 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: realized too when when I was playing in the league, 600 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: when things were happening either at other stadiums or our stadiums, 601 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: when we tended to do better or worse. I just 602 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I bet on the humans playing more 603 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: so than the team's playing. And and that's I don't 604 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: know if it's good or not. I've seemed to win, 605 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if it'll wear off. But 606 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: I think emotion is a is a huge part of 607 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: all of it. I agree with you, Pat. I always 608 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: tell this nerd over here that when I bet, I 609 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: bet based on feel. That's how I live my life 610 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: based on feel. Because you could sit here with your spreadsheets, 611 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: you're analyst, tikes all you want, you can crumple them up, 612 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: shove them up your ass. At the end of the day, 613 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: it's people doing people things, and that's how you got 614 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: a bet. Am I right. That's will tell you what 615 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: have happened. They won't tell you what will happen. And 616 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: I think that is unless something is center, I don't 617 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: want to hear about it because that means it's happened 618 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: differently in the past, and that's honestly how I filled 619 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: with the old status thing. I love it, Patty, alright, 620 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: so I'm basically against you both, but that's cool. Hey, 621 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: uh pat magazine Listen, you're killing it, brother. Thank you 622 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: for coming on the podcast. I know we're gonna be 623 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: doing a lot more with you in the new year, 624 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: so I'm excited about that. And McAfee show two point oh, 625 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: keep rocking. We appreciate you coming on. 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