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Speaker 3: gotta push back on the polling thing. The the the
Speaker 3: drum beat of the poles are wrong again. Who believes
Speaker 3: what they they had it? It was gonna be within
Speaker 3: like three four points that was the margin of air,
Speaker 3: and they could go either way, and lots of people
Speaker 3: were saying they could all break the same direction.
Speaker 1: Right, So I saw a big long list of everything
Speaker 1: that was one and a half points off. That's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how accurate do you want them to be? And
Speaker 3: in what world do you think that could possibly happen?
Speaker 3: Uh So, Elon Musk is getting a fair amount of attention.
Speaker 1: I noticed. Let me read just a couple of things
Speaker 1: for you. This is from the wappo.
Speaker 3: I think with his super pack, Elon Musk was able
Speaker 3: to put a thumb on the scale of a presidential
Speaker 3: election like no ultra wealthy donor before him.
Speaker 1: All right, ignoring I'll imagine that social media playing a
Speaker 1: role in what people say, Ignoring all the other gazillionaires
Speaker 1: that have weighed in Zuckerberg, Google, everybody else. But more
Speaker 1: on that. In just a second tick tack, you have many,
Speaker 1: many multiples of the people on Twitter. Okay, came across
Speaker 1: this guy.
Speaker 3: I don't know his name, but he's a big deal
Speaker 3: in lefty media politics sort of person tweeted out. Democrats
Speaker 3: are going to keep losing until they have their own
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan, their own Elon Muskin, until they create their
Speaker 3: own alternative to Fox News. It is not good enough
Speaker 3: to contest conservative messaging in these existing spaces.
Speaker 1: Democrats must create their own.
Speaker 3: So the idea so having the CBS Evening News, ABC
Speaker 3: Evening News, Washington Post, New York Times, all of Hollywood,
Speaker 3: all of social media except for Twitter. Education now all
Speaker 3: the schools from kindergarten through graduate school.
Speaker 1: That's not good enough. I guess it's incredibly mockable. But
Speaker 1: maybe it's just my mood. I'm just I'm so intrigued
Speaker 1: trying to understand someone who is that blind? Or is
Speaker 1: it that so many people have bought the notion that
Speaker 1: the massive media entertainment education complex is not biased. That's it,
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 3: He doesn't think him stating we need our own Fox News.
Speaker 1: You have it. He's got like eleven of them.
Speaker 3: It's called enos, NBC and CNN. And did you watch
Speaker 3: the debates for interest for instance? Did you watch those
Speaker 3: or most of the interviews that were clearly designed to
Speaker 3: help your side?
Speaker 1: But it doesn't feel that way to them. I guess
Speaker 1: you need your own Joe Rogan NPR. It's like the
Speaker 1: biggest thing in terrestrial radio, as we call old school radio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that just again. I would like to and will
Speaker 1: mock people like that, but I am just interested in them.
Speaker 3: The idea that Google and Facebook and all the things
Speaker 3: we've already mentioned don't balance out Elon Muskin anyway. But
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many times I've heard in
Speaker 3: the last twenty four hours the idea, well, when you
Speaker 3: get Elon Musk, world's richest man weighing in. Okay, So
Speaker 3: how about this political ad spending across the swing states?
Speaker 3: Only in Pennsylvania did the Republicans come close to spending
Speaker 3: as much money on ads as the Democrats did. Still
Speaker 3: less but close, And every other swing state that Trump
Speaker 3: won it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't even close.
Speaker 3: It was like nine to one in terms of Democrats
Speaker 3: spending versus Republicans spending.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the bottom of the hour, I want to
Speaker 1: go through a number of learned and eminent Democrats assessments
Speaker 1: of what went wrong, and it is every bit as
Speaker 1: astonishing as the fella's point of view that Jack just
Speaker 1: brought us. But I had a point I was working
Speaker 1: my way toward. It doesn't matter on the spend. I
Speaker 1: just I don't understand how you how you don't get
Speaker 1: to we spend all this money, We have the heft
Speaker 1: of all this media. Maybe we had bad candidates and
Speaker 1: or bad ideas that people don't like and they just
Speaker 1: never get there. Boy, no kidding, that should be it.
Speaker 3: See, we had the advantage in money we control, like
Speaker 3: practically all the information and we're still lost. So maybe
Speaker 3: people don't like our policies. Doesn't that doesn't get to anyone, apparently.
Speaker 3: I guess that would be hurtful to like, realize people.
Speaker 1: Don't like what I think. I don't know, I don't,
Speaker 1: but I don't understand hurtful. That's an emotional reaction. I
Speaker 1: get it. I have emotions too, allegedly, But I still
Speaker 1: say the great divide and the American people is and
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's got a touch of both in them, obviously,
Speaker 1: but the great divide between the American people is the
Speaker 1: practical people and the emotional people. People who live practical
Speaker 1: lives that are enriched by their emotions, or people whose
Speaker 1: reaction to everything is emotional and practical considerations don't even
Speaker 1: enter into it if they cause, you know, negative emotions.
Speaker 1: The idea that I as a political being, as a
Speaker 1: radio show, for instance, if I could not handle that
Speaker 1: people hate it when you X and they love it
Speaker 1: when you why. And I was so freaked out by that.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no, don't tell me that.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me that. I can't even imagine functioning in
Speaker 1: that way. You know, it would be a great number.
Speaker 3: To know, what of all the people that had to
Speaker 3: call therapists yesterday to deal with the election?
Speaker 1: Yeah? All of them? How often?
Speaker 3: How many of those people will Obviously you wouldn't be
Speaker 3: unhappy of your leaned right because your guy one, But
Speaker 3: if Kamala had one, how many conservatives or Republicans would
Speaker 3: have called a therapist to have an emergency meeting because
Speaker 3: they were falling apart and couldn't go to work any
Speaker 3: I mean, I've.
Speaker 1: Been on the losing out of plenty of lections, chagrined, annoyed,
Speaker 1: maybe even a little pissed off. But the idea that
Speaker 1: I can't function, I can't go to work is so
Speaker 1: foreign to me. I'm I'm maybe it's that I'm getting older.
Speaker 1: I'm through being flabbergasted by it, and I just would
Speaker 1: like to understand it and try to figure out, for
Speaker 1: the good of the republic and our politics and our society,
Speaker 1: how do you communicate with those people. Is it possible
Speaker 1: to reach them and pat them on the head or
Speaker 1: does that sound condescending? I apologize pat them on the back?
Speaker 1: Well I was, and say, look, I sincerely believe it
Speaker 1: is this to my bones, and I've got an example
Speaker 1: coming up later, there are people who actually think Trump
Speaker 1: is going to suppress the free press in this country. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a blanket chance. Not for a minute.
Speaker 3: I mentioned person I saw in a focus group who said,
Speaker 3: I have a friend there. They're gay, married, and there
Speaker 3: they they're worried about their marriage being you know, taken
Speaker 3: away from them if Trump wins.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Which isn't even nobody's having that conversation anywhere in America,
Speaker 3: let alone is it going to happen.
Speaker 1: The legitimately sickening clip we ran from Jimmy Kimmel in
Speaker 1: which he is breaking down in tears because of what's
Speaker 1: going to happen to the children and the old people.
Speaker 1: And I'm sing the immigrants that have voted for Trump,
Speaker 1: by the way, the hundreds of thousands of hardworking immigrants
Speaker 1: that make this country go, well, they'll be fine. The
Speaker 1: Venezuelan gang members are going to get their asses booted out,
Speaker 1: thank goodness, Jimmy. But you're gonna be okay, sweetheart. Oh
Speaker 1: there I was condescending again. I am so sorry. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to work at this.
Speaker 3: I love hearing the left explaining why a majority of
Speaker 3: Hispanic men voted for the guy who's promising mass deportation.
Speaker 3: It's not hard for me to understand, but it's very
Speaker 3: hard for them to understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you could make the argument that a lot
Speaker 1: of folks from Mexico, the Triangle country of Central America,
Speaker 1: and Venezuelans, because you know, the majority of Venezuelans who
Speaker 1: come to this country are not members of trende Arragua.
Speaker 1: There's some people are looking for a better life for
Speaker 1: their family. But if you were to sit them down
Speaker 1: and ask them in Spanish about why do you believe this,
Speaker 1: that and the other, it would all boil down to
Speaker 1: lawlessness and chaos. They understand that lawlessness breeds pain and death.
Speaker 1: You don't have to explain that to them. They know it,
Speaker 1: they've seen it, they've experienced it. So how could it
Speaker 1: be that Hispanic people are good? Because your entire narrative
Speaker 1: that wanting reasonable enforcement of our immigration laws is racist
Speaker 1: is fictional. It's not true.
Speaker 3: Just to finish off the money story that we started with,
Speaker 3: when it turns out money was the big difference maker
Speaker 3: in a presidential election, it'll be the first time and
Speaker 3: we'll bring you that story but so far it hasn't happened.
Speaker 3: Read the money being spent you mean AD dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: money being spent, not the economy. Money being spent AD
Speaker 3: dollars are the idea of buying the election. It just
Speaker 3: hasn't happened.
Speaker 1: And so far.
Speaker 3: Read the freakonomics book from years ago or whatever. There's
Speaker 3: example of an example of it not happening. And I
Speaker 3: just went through all the swing states where the Harris
Speaker 3: people outspent the Trump people like.
Speaker 1: Ten to one.
Speaker 3: So I understand it makes you would think that it
Speaker 3: would make a difference, but for whatever reason, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Interestingly, analysts on all sides are saying the one ad
Speaker 1: that moved the needle wasn't about inflation, it was about
Speaker 1: the gender bending madness. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like I said yesterday, it's impossible to know how much
Speaker 3: of that stuff is in the back of people's minds.
Speaker 3: It's just like an overall feeling of I can't vote
Speaker 3: for that side, right, Yeah, Yeah, I read a great thing.
Speaker 3: I got to dig that up from a tran I'm
Speaker 3: so time changes and trans I can't get straight. It's
Speaker 3: weird this person dresses as a woman, So that's a
Speaker 3: trans woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a dude. That's it.
Speaker 3: Well, for the sake of this argument, this is she
Speaker 3: presents as a woman and goes by a female name and
Speaker 3: calls herself her. She wrote a great piece yesterday about Hey,
Speaker 3: we made so much progress a trans being able to
Speaker 3: be accepted and be in the workplace. We've got to
Speaker 3: get away from this craziness of making people accept dudes
Speaker 3: in girls' sports or forcing people to put pronouns. I mean,
Speaker 3: we've ruined our lives with this. What are we doing?
Speaker 3: It was really good. Yeah, well, said my friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, like I said, I actually have some hope for
Speaker 3: the first time in a long time that maybe we
Speaker 3: crossed some sort.
Speaker 1: Of line of craziness and we're going back with a
Speaker 1: variety of things. Yes, yeah, again, I feel the hope
Speaker 1: of a huge job has begun and we've made a
Speaker 1: little progress for the demo. There are millions of twenty
Speaker 1: two year olds being churned out of colleges this spring
Speaker 1: who believe the woke badness to their bones. That's true.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a long fight. That's a good point.
Speaker 3: The advantage that side has is that our side is
Speaker 3: dying off and the side that believes that crap is
Speaker 3: about to take.
Speaker 1: Over, and there are forty million k through twelve verse
Speaker 1: right now who are being taught that garbage in your
Speaker 1: local schools this moment.
Speaker 3: Even though I've seen so many Democratic strategists on various
Speaker 3: cable news channels and read their columns recently talking about
Speaker 3: we've gone too far with the culture stuff. That's not
Speaker 3: where America is. That's not where the working classes.
Speaker 1: Education is a subculture and it is utterly it's become
Speaker 1: utterly perverse in this country.
Speaker 3: Yes, I do want to at some point talk about
Speaker 3: the difference in the coverage of Trump winning this time
Speaker 3: versus last time, because you might not remember. It's completely
Speaker 3: different and in a good way. But we got a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff to talk about today.
Speaker 1: Stay with us. I was just looking at the ABC
Speaker 1: News report.
Speaker 3: This is breaking news that North Korean troops are fighting Ukrainians.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that's in Russia where they're doing that, because
Speaker 3: there are Ukrainian troops in Russia. Remember they took some territory.
Speaker 3: Because NATO announced that if Ukrainian troops are fighting in Ukraine,
Speaker 3: if North Korean troops are fighting in Ukraine. NATO's gonna
Speaker 3: put troops in Ukraine. Then we really got a world
Speaker 3: war going on. Wow, Yeah, craziness.
Speaker 1: Plus Russia tried to bring down a couple of American
Speaker 1: airplanes and nobody's talking about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it happened that news broke during the last
Speaker 3: days of an election, right, right. But I found this
Speaker 3: so interesting and different. It's a completely different topic.
Speaker 1: I am going to quote the vice president who is
Speaker 1: still sitting and Joe Biden is still the president. I'm
Speaker 1: told that seems wrong atleact he's given a speech today.
Speaker 1: I'll be good. They mentioned the million times that Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris said it's about paying their fair share. I'm not
Speaker 1: mad at anybody for achieving success, but everyone should pay
Speaker 1: their fair share. And of course, pay their fair share
Speaker 1: is a practiced mantra in Washington. Is this think piece
Speaker 1: points out and quotes everybody from Bernie Sanders Dooci to
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren over and over and over again. Then, as usual,
Speaker 1: we turned to the statistics that show the top one
Speaker 1: percent of earners paid forty six percent of all federal
Speaker 1: income taxes, so damn near half for one percent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the top five percent paid sixty six percent of
Speaker 1: income taxes, thirds of taxes.
Speaker 3: Paid by five percent. Again, I always ask define fair
Speaker 3: to me? What would be the fair number to you?
Speaker 1: All of it? Right, three learners? What's it supposed to be?
Speaker 1: It's funny that something that's ubiquitous and the political conversation
Speaker 1: is so wrong. Anyway, this isn't about that exactly. It's
Speaker 1: a historical look at the quote unquote rich and the
Speaker 1: products that they embraced. And then, as Ludwig von Mises said,
Speaker 1: every innovation makes its appearance as a luxury of the
Speaker 1: few well to do. After industry has become aware of it,
Speaker 1: the luxury then becomes a necessity for all. And I'll
Speaker 1: give you some examples. But by this mechanism, to quote
Speaker 1: a different thinker, capitalism has its own built in welfare
Speaker 1: transfer system from rich to the poor. Home electricity first
Speaker 1: introduced that the world's fair in eighteen ninety three. In
Speaker 1: eighteen eighty one, a single light bulb cost thirty one
Speaker 1: dollars in today's money. It is unlikely today any city
Speaker 1: would grant a certificate of occupancy if a building were
Speaker 1: not connected to the electrical grid. But rich people adopted
Speaker 1: their light bulb industry said, Wow, that's a great idea,
Speaker 1: and they found a way to manufacture them much more cheaply,
Speaker 1: and then everybody could have them. Conditioning back when Willis
Speaker 1: Carrier came up with it in nineteen oh two in
Speaker 1: a way that could be commercialized. The first air conditioners
Speaker 1: took an entire room and cost the equivalent of three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand to one point six million dollars. Wow. In
Speaker 1: modern dollars, economies of scale reduced the price between five
Speaker 1: and ten thousand dollars installed for a central unit. You
Speaker 1: can get a wall unit for two hundred dollars. Automobiles
Speaker 1: an incredible luxury of only the super rich until it
Speaker 1: caught on and an industry jumped in cell phones, remember
Speaker 1: the brick phones, Hollywood agents and the rest of it.
Speaker 1: And the point of this piece, which is really quite
Speaker 1: interesting and we'll post it at Armstrong and Getty dot com, is,
Speaker 1: instead of vilifying success and claiming the rich don't pay
Speaker 1: their fair share, policy makers should recognize the vital role
Speaker 1: that wealth creation plays in society. Punitive tax policies aimed
Speaker 1: at the ultra rich will do more harm than goods,
Speaker 1: stifling entrepreneurship and the very drivers of human and progress
Speaker 1: that benefit all Americans. It's a hard thing to sell
Speaker 1: because nobody wants to stand up for wealthy people.
Speaker 3: Well, I got so much to say about that, but
Speaker 3: we are out of time. We have more on the way.
Speaker 1: If you miss an ur get the podcast Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1: There's misogyny.
Speaker 4: But it's not just misogyny for white men. It's misogyny
Speaker 4: from Hispanic men, right, it's misogyny from black men. Things
Speaker 4: we've all been talking about. Who do not want a
Speaker 4: woman leading?
Speaker 1: The Black voters came through for Kamala Harris. White women
Speaker 1: voters did not.
Speaker 5: She is a person of color, she is a she,
Speaker 5: and she is an interracial marriage. And I wonder I
Speaker 5: have this question mark in my mind. Oh we wherether
Speaker 5: All of those things combined was too much for pockets
Speaker 5: of this country.
Speaker 6: There were appeals to racism in this campaign, and there
Speaker 6: is racial bias in this country, and there is sexism
Speaker 6: in this country. And anybody who thinks that that did
Speaker 6: not in any way impact on the outcome of this
Speaker 6: race is wrong.
Speaker 1: In any way.
Speaker 3: Okay, So if anybody, if there's a single vote out
Speaker 3: of one hundred and fifty million vote that had something
Speaker 3: to do with the race.
Speaker 1: That's worth having the That's not the driving force though,
Speaker 1: or even close right. I'm just maybe it's the mood
Speaker 1: I'm in. I am so interested in the blindness of
Speaker 1: these people, and I will want to kick them and
Speaker 1: mock them again soon, but for now, I just I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way for the good of
Speaker 1: the country to reach them.
Speaker 3: A friend of mine said to this text yesterday their workplace,
Speaker 3: which actually is a government workplace, I said, anybody at
Speaker 3: your work need counseling, because they actually had offered counseling
Speaker 3: the day before for anybody who would be upset, probably
Speaker 3: a taxpair expense. A lot of puffy eyes from the men.
Speaker 3: One of them put his arm around my shoulder, which
Speaker 3: I shrugged off, and told me anyone who voted for
Speaker 3: Trump is a racist.
Speaker 1: It's the only explanation.
Speaker 3: And this person was assuming that the person they put
Speaker 3: their arm around a read with them politically, of course,
Speaker 3: because for some reason, the left particularly just assumes you
Speaker 3: can say extraordinarily out of bounds things to everyone, and
Speaker 3: we're just supposed to keep our mouths shut and put
Speaker 3: up with it.
Speaker 1: Well, they have created their own bubble in that, and
Speaker 1: I'm speaking mostly for people in Bluish parts of the
Speaker 1: country that if somebody says they're a liberal among conservatives,
Speaker 1: the reaction is, so, what are you gonna do? If
Speaker 1: somebody says they're a conservative. Among liberals, the reaction is
Speaker 1: never ending shower of hate and derision. So could it
Speaker 1: be that there are lots of people who are these strange,
Speaker 1: hateful people. They're close to you, but they don't say
Speaker 1: anything because you're so mean.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I got in the workplace yesterday with a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of people I would have never have guessed were
Speaker 3: so thrilled with Drum's victory because you have to keep
Speaker 3: your mouth shut.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, listening to that montage of clips,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm fascinated and well, just astounded by nobody
Speaker 1: to Kamala Harris failed miserably in the Democratic primaries not
Speaker 1: long ago. She had awful approval ratings as the vice president.
Speaker 1: So if you had a white dude who failed miserably
Speaker 1: in the primaries, then had awful approval numbers as vice
Speaker 1: president and he lost, why would you explain that racism? Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So why is that incredibly so obvious. I'm not even
Speaker 1: gonna bother repeating it. Explanation not applicable here, Help me understand,
Speaker 1: I would love to have that country.
Speaker 3: Well for a guy to put his armor on someone
Speaker 3: say racism. It's the only explanation?
Speaker 1: Is it the only explanation? I feel like I could come.
Speaker 3: Up with some like start with maybe the two issues
Speaker 3: that every pool showed were the most important issues to people,
Speaker 3: the economy in the border, which were right well on the.
Speaker 1: Side of Trump. Thanks for the Thanks for the companying
Speaker 1: arm around my shoulder, But what about the by far
Speaker 1: two biggest issues in the election, anything any significance to those?
Speaker 1: You think? Yeah, just frustrating. So I've been pouring through
Speaker 1: all sorts of different think pieces from the liberal media,
Speaker 1: including this forum between many of the greatest thinkers at
Speaker 1: the Washington Post, Ruth Marcus and David something I can't
Speaker 1: even remember, but anyway, David says, my biggest question is
Speaker 1: what comes next for Democrats. There will inevitably be hard
Speaker 1: questions about why Harris didn't do better. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: whether people will blame the progressive wing of the party
Speaker 1: or progressives will claim they were right and Harris made
Speaker 1: a big mistake in moving to the center. For the Republicans,
Speaker 1: the next step read it that way. Good luck you
Speaker 1: were progressive enough. Yeah, that's a good read. Again, I'm
Speaker 1: just weird. I just don't get it. The biggest and
Speaker 1: scariest question as we contemplate the likelihood of a Trump
Speaker 1: victory is will they wage a war of retribution? And
Speaker 1: Matt asks, I mean we say, oh, you mentioned the
Speaker 1: former AIDS who described Trump as a fascist, which is
Speaker 1: true they did. But David says, Ruth, you know the
Speaker 1: legal system better than anyone. Do you think our courts
Speaker 1: and legal institutions are strong enough to protect our country
Speaker 1: against the danger that Matt describes of a Trump fascist tendencies?
Speaker 1: Ruth says, in terms of jailing reporters and prosecuting opponents,
Speaker 1: I think the answer is somewhat. But detention camps, oh
Speaker 1: my god, for whom, Like for illegal immigrants? Do you
Speaker 1: mean like the very same facilities that Obama used that
Speaker 1: were filled to bursting, Yeah, they might happen. Dismantling the
Speaker 1: civil service now I've run into that in several places.
Speaker 1: The discussion of how it is an unmitigated and unmistakable
Speaker 1: evil to reduce the size of the federal government. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have to get to that later.
Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal has a good piece about how many
Speaker 3: more federal employees there are now than there were just
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, and Elon's gonna take that on.
Speaker 3: But as you just pointed out, a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: people think doing away with any any government job is
Speaker 3: a horror.
Speaker 1: Right. First of all, we can do the whole hour
Speaker 1: on that next hour, and I would be thrilled. But
Speaker 1: dismantling the civil service is listed as something is clear
Speaker 1: that is clearly an indisputably un evil thing. And again
Speaker 1: I gotta stop you. And these people are bright. They're
Speaker 1: utterly well lacking in wisdom and perspective, but they're they're
Speaker 1: reasonably bright. And I would say, I'm getting the idea
Speaker 1: that any reduction of the federal workforce is a bad
Speaker 1: thing to you? Does it follow then that any growth
Speaker 1: in the federal workforce is a good thing. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about this. How do you not How does that not
Speaker 1: enter into your head as you're forming an argument? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Then she tries to shame the justices. Bah
Speaker 1: bah bah uh. It's then Math tries to drag him
Speaker 1: back to reality. It's worth noting that at this writing
Speaker 1: it seems very possible that Trump also one of the
Speaker 1: popular vote, you can even pass the fifty percent threshold.
Speaker 1: It does seem like a moment when we have to
Speaker 1: take stock of the country we're living in and admit,
Speaker 1: as Ruth said at the outset, that it might not
Speaker 1: be the country some of us thought it was. Whatever,
Speaker 1: Now we're at a crossroads, stopped at the traffic light,
Speaker 1: plenty of time to decide we're gonna turn right or
Speaker 1: go straight or left or whatever. Is it not the
Speaker 1: country you thought it was, because it's actually far worse
Speaker 1: and far evil, which is where they're going right? Or
Speaker 1: is it because you have failed to perceive the country
Speaker 1: as it is. It's not us, it's you. But they
Speaker 1: never even entertain that notion.
Speaker 3: Well, as you heard Scarborough yesterday on Morning Joe lecturing
Speaker 3: Hispanic men and black men for being sexist and racist
Speaker 3: in all kinds of different things, because what else are
Speaker 3: you gonna do other than recognize that men in particular
Speaker 3: ain't digging a lot of your.
Speaker 1: Crazy wol policies right right. And then finally this from David.
Speaker 1: He says they're talking about what would have mattered, what
Speaker 1: might have won it, And he says, I wish Harris
Speaker 1: had somehow found a way to make the American people
Speaker 1: seem more clearly Donald Trump is so. At the Washington Post,
Speaker 1: they're leading thinkers think the problem was Kamala didn't lean
Speaker 1: enough into Trump is evil. And I've got half a
Speaker 1: dozen of these examples. But I love what George Will wrote,
Speaker 1: and he of course talks about she's really not a
Speaker 1: good campaigner at all, not a good not a good candidation,
Speaker 1: never been popular, never really won anything on the national stage, vapid.
Speaker 1: And then he pointed out, and I love this, she
Speaker 1: mocked Trump for being such a feeble president that he
Speaker 1: could not even build his border wall. Simultaneously, she made
Speaker 1: it clear that in a second term, the triumph of
Speaker 1: his hitlarian values with steamroll America's democratic institutions. Perhaps voters
Speaker 1: detected a contradiction. Yes, he's so weak he couldn't even
Speaker 1: build his wall, but if he wins, he will become
Speaker 1: hit letter at rules and stand us ride to the
Speaker 1: United States crushing which one was it? And then this
Speaker 1: they didn't even touch on it in the Washington Post
Speaker 1: editorial board, except in that very brief discussion of maybe
Speaker 1: the progressives were right, maybe she shouldn't attack to the center,
Speaker 1: and Will puts it beautifully as I think we have
Speaker 1: in other's Harris, who called Trump weird, leads a party
Speaker 1: hospitable to advanced thinkers who believe that men can menstruate.
Speaker 1: Speaking of weird, the Biden Harris administration Secretary of Health
Speaker 1: and Human Services could not be cajoled during Senate testimony
Speaker 1: to refer to mothers as other than birthing people. And
Speaker 1: perhaps they're still loud. It's kind of funny. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Harris's difficulties with male voters had something to do with
Speaker 1: their party having too many members who think that, in
Speaker 1: their favorite phrase, toxic masculinity, the adjective is actually redundant.
Speaker 1: All masculinity is toxic. Trump has hardly monopolized the supply
Speaker 1: of weirdness. Yeah, no kidding, and they can weard fast.
Speaker 1: I Ah, I'm not sure how much progress we can
Speaker 1: make as a country until we clean out the rot,
Speaker 1: the infection of our education systems that are churning out
Speaker 1: generation after generation of Ruth Marcus's The Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 1: Ruth I was referring to speaking of our education system.
Speaker 3: Guess what college canceled classes yesterday because of the election.
Speaker 1: Pretty funny, but we.
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Speaker 3: We might be closer to World War than we've been
Speaker 3: in a long time, and it's not getting much attention
Speaker 3: because the election. We'll get to that coming up in
Speaker 3: a little bit, but Harvard professors canceled a lot of
Speaker 3: classes yesterday students feeling too much emotion the day after
Speaker 3: the loss of their candidate courses such had Ivy League colleges.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm leaving out to technical education. They're a joke.
Speaker 3: It is crazy. So in theory, or it used to be,
Speaker 3: people viewed it this way that the best colleges of
Speaker 3: the smartest students in America. We all know that's a
Speaker 3: bunch of crap now, but they're too weak to go
Speaker 3: to school when they're preferred presidential candidate loses courses such
Speaker 3: as Sociology eleven fifty six, Statistics for Social Sciences, and
Speaker 3: Applied math Solving and Optimizing is where well as several
Speaker 3: general education courses. The ancient Greek hero popular culture. In
Speaker 3: modern China, all canceled classes Wednesday, made attendance optional, or
Speaker 3: extended assignment deadlines. You know, I'm not as we recover
Speaker 3: this was the language as we recover from the eventful
Speaker 3: election night process the implications of Trump's victory. Please know
Speaker 3: that classes will proceed in this manner and cancel extended assignments,
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely comfortable with this metaphor because there are
Speaker 1: so many great moms in the world, But you got
Speaker 1: your your mommy impulses and your daddy impulses. And when
Speaker 1: the kid falls down, skins his knee, or the election
Speaker 1: goes the wrong way that the cliche admittedly mommy impulses
Speaker 1: oh honey, oh sweetheart, oh my darling, and the daddy impulses, Ah,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine, Go play, go have fun. We
Speaker 1: need so much more of the daddy impulse on the
Speaker 1: college campuses. Hey, I know you're dis wanted, but applied math.
Speaker 1: Let's get to work, get up, You're gonna have You're
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. We need so much more of that.
Speaker 3: How few years ago would it have been insane to
Speaker 3: hear that one person in America couldn't go to work
Speaker 3: or school the next day after a presidential election, if
Speaker 3: you're including the guy you lost, if you'd have heard
Speaker 3: of one person, you'd have thought, Wow, that poor person
Speaker 3: is really weak or crazy.
Speaker 1: Now it's just accepted for grown ups, right what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that is a real cultural change. Where did
Speaker 1: it come from? Education?
Speaker 3: North Korean troops fight Ukrainians that ain't good? Among other
Speaker 3: things on the way are from.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: I hope with the presidential election over and maybe by
Speaker 3: tomorrow we'll be back to paying attention to all the
Speaker 3: news that's going on around the world or in our
Speaker 3: country that's not about who's president at any given time,
Speaker 3: including what's going on in Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Here's latest report from ABC News.
Speaker 7: North Korean troops have now engaged in combat with the
Speaker 7: Ukrainian forces for the first time. This is according to
Speaker 7: both Ukrainian and US officials. More than ten thousand North
Speaker 7: Koreans are now believed to have joined the fighting alongside
Speaker 7: Russian forces.
Speaker 1: The class has taken place in Curse.
Speaker 7: Remember this is the border region of Russia. The Ukrainian
Speaker 7: forces invaded over the summer, partly taking over areas of it.
Speaker 7: It marks a significant escalation. I think in this conflict
Speaker 7: there's now going spectacularly badly for Ukraine, and he's going
Speaker 7: to present a huge challenge for.
Speaker 1: Presidents elect Trump.
Speaker 7: President Zelenski speaking to Trump saying I had an excellent
Speaker 7: call with him and that strong and I'm wavering US
Speaker 7: leadership is vital for the world and for a just peace.
Speaker 7: Remember Trump promised to end this conflict within twenty four hours,
Speaker 7: so now his transition team is going to have to
Speaker 7: try and turn those promises into reality.
Speaker 3: Did he say it, it's going spectacularly bad for Ukraine?
Speaker 1: Yes? Wow. Did you see the drone attack Ukraine had on.
Speaker 3: The ships, the Russian ships yesterday? Well that was something
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's technology that we've sent them or.
Speaker 1: What, but some of it is. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So you got North Korean troops fighting Ukrainians in Russia
Speaker 3: alongside Russian troops. NATO has said if North Korean troops
Speaker 3: are fighting in Ukraine, then we're going to put NATO
Speaker 3: troops in Ukraine. I assume with the idea of this
Speaker 3: is a serious red line. I mean, you do not
Speaker 3: want to cross the red line of putting North Korean
Speaker 3: troops in Russia. Why would the world make that such
Speaker 3: a declaration. Why are Russian troops, you know, killing families
Speaker 3: in their homes in Ukraine, something NATO won't stand up against,
Speaker 3: but North Korean troops would be. I suspect very strongly,
Speaker 3: although I have not, you know, heard the exact reasoning
Speaker 3: of the Europeans and the NATO leadership. But you have
Speaker 3: an organized multi country war of conquest in Europe, including
Speaker 3: North Korea, which has got zero business fighting over anything
Speaker 3: in Europe borders or whatever.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's just no no. If you're recruiting Asian
Speaker 1: countries to come and kill Europeans and help you out, no,
Speaker 1: Europe has to stand up against that, and their biggest
Speaker 1: ally of the United States.
Speaker 3: You know that Bob Woodward book that came out a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, and like all Bob Woodward books,
Speaker 3: got a whole bunch of attention for a couple of
Speaker 3: days with some cherry picked out of context quotes that
Speaker 3: hurt the Republican and helped the Democrat, and then the
Speaker 3: book goes away. Well, I'm actually reading the book and
Speaker 3: the stuff about Trump is like I wouldn't even have
Speaker 3: noticed it.
Speaker 1: At all.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like reading the book, it doesn't
Speaker 3: stand out as interesting at all. A couple of things
Speaker 3: that did stand out is interesting. This is the first
Speaker 3: place I've seen reporting where we had a human in
Speaker 3: the Kremlin. That's where we were getting all our information,
Speaker 3: and why we knew Russia was going to go into
Speaker 3: Ukraine and knew so much about it. We had an
Speaker 3: actual human being in the Kremlin close to Putin as
Speaker 3: a source.
Speaker 1: That's something. And this as they suffered an unfortunate fall human.
Speaker 3: And this I thought this should have been the explosive
Speaker 3: nugget from Woodward's book. During the presidential election, Putin actually
Speaker 3: went into Ukraine because of the way Biden handled Afghanistan.
Speaker 3: He saw by dealing with that and thought, oh man,
Speaker 3: there's no way he can stop us.
Speaker 1: Look at that.
Speaker 3: You're going to tell me that that's not worthy of
Speaker 3: discussion as a political story.
Speaker 1: It's funny. The media must have skimmed the book so
Speaker 1: quickly they missed that part. Right. You cannot have enough
Speaker 1: contempt for the dishonesty the mainstream media. You'd have to
Speaker 1: work on it all day long and do I don't know,
Speaker 1: exercises or something in other words, that trick it up.
Speaker 3: In other words, the Trump claimed that he would have
Speaker 3: never done that if I was in office is quite
Speaker 3: possibly true.
Speaker 1: I think it is. I've always thought that I think
Speaker 1: a lot of Trump's bluster is bull crap, but that
Speaker 1: I agreed with Oh speaking of Russia and explosive nuggets,
Speaker 1: Western security officials believe that two incendiary devices shipped via
Speaker 1: DHL were part of a covert Russian operation that ultimately
Speaker 1: aimed to start fires aboard cargo or passenger aircraft flying
Speaker 1: to the US in Canada, part of Moscow's sabotage campaign
Speaker 1: against Washington and its allies. Gold device is ignited in
Speaker 1: Germany and England. What's your goal there? To start a
Speaker 1: nuclear holocaust? You bring down a passenger plane and we
Speaker 1: can trust to Russia. We're at war, aren't we? Uh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a warm war somewhere between cold and hot Man. Trump's
Speaker 1: inheriting all this, and who knows how he's gonna handle it.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty