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<v Speaker 3>gotta push back on the polling thing. The the the

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<v Speaker 3>drum beat of the poles are wrong again. Who believes

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<v Speaker 3>what they they had it? It was gonna be within

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<v Speaker 3>like three four points that was the margin of air,

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<v Speaker 3>and they could go either way, and lots of people

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<v Speaker 3>were saying they could all break the same direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So I saw a big long list of everything

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<v Speaker 1>that was one and a half points off. That's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how accurate do you want them to be? And

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<v Speaker 3>in what world do you think that could possibly happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh So, Elon Musk is getting a fair amount of attention.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed. Let me read just a couple of things

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<v Speaker 1>for you. This is from the wappo.

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<v Speaker 3>I think with his super pack, Elon Musk was able

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<v Speaker 3>to put a thumb on the scale of a presidential

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<v Speaker 3>election like no ultra wealthy donor before him.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, ignoring I'll imagine that social media playing a

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<v Speaker 1>role in what people say, Ignoring all the other gazillionaires

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<v Speaker 1>that have weighed in Zuckerberg, Google, everybody else. But more

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<v Speaker 1>on that. In just a second tick tack, you have many,

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<v Speaker 1>many multiples of the people on Twitter. Okay, came across

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<v Speaker 1>this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know his name, but he's a big deal

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<v Speaker 3>in lefty media politics sort of person tweeted out. Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>are going to keep losing until they have their own

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Rogan, their own Elon Muskin, until they create their

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<v Speaker 3>own alternative to Fox News. It is not good enough

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<v Speaker 3>to contest conservative messaging in these existing spaces.

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats must create their own.

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<v Speaker 3>So the idea so having the CBS Evening News, ABC

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<v Speaker 3>Evening News, Washington Post, New York Times, all of Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 3>all of social media except for Twitter. Education now all

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<v Speaker 3>the schools from kindergarten through graduate school.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not good enough. I guess it's incredibly mockable. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just my mood. I'm just I'm so intrigued

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<v Speaker 1>trying to understand someone who is that blind? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>it that so many people have bought the notion that

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<v Speaker 1>the massive media entertainment education complex is not biased. That's it,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't think him stating we need our own Fox News.

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<v Speaker 1>You have it. He's got like eleven of them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called enos, NBC and CNN. And did you watch

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<v Speaker 3>the debates for interest for instance? Did you watch those

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<v Speaker 3>or most of the interviews that were clearly designed to

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<v Speaker 3>help your side?

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't feel that way to them. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you need your own Joe Rogan NPR. It's like the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing in terrestrial radio, as we call old school radio. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that that just again. I would like to and will

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<v Speaker 1>mock people like that, but I am just interested in them.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea that Google and Facebook and all the things

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<v Speaker 3>we've already mentioned don't balance out Elon Muskin anyway. But

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<v Speaker 3>I can't tell you how many times I've heard in

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<v Speaker 3>the last twenty four hours the idea, well, when you

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<v Speaker 3>get Elon Musk, world's richest man weighing in. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>how about this political ad spending across the swing states?

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<v Speaker 3>Only in Pennsylvania did the Republicans come close to spending

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<v Speaker 3>as much money on ads as the Democrats did. Still

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<v Speaker 3>less but close, And every other swing state that Trump

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<v Speaker 3>won it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't even close.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like nine to one in terms of Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>spending versus Republicans spending.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at the bottom of the hour, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go through a number of learned and eminent Democrats assessments

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<v Speaker 1>of what went wrong, and it is every bit as

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<v Speaker 1>astonishing as the fella's point of view that Jack just

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<v Speaker 1>brought us. But I had a point I was working

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<v Speaker 1>my way toward. It doesn't matter on the spend. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't understand how you how you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>to we spend all this money, We have the heft

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<v Speaker 1>of all this media. Maybe we had bad candidates and

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<v Speaker 1>or bad ideas that people don't like and they just

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<v Speaker 1>never get there. Boy, no kidding, that should be it.

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<v Speaker 3>See, we had the advantage in money we control, like

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<v Speaker 3>practically all the information and we're still lost. So maybe

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<v Speaker 3>people don't like our policies. Doesn't that doesn't get to anyone, apparently.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that would be hurtful to like, realize people.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't like what I think. I don't know, I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't understand hurtful. That's an emotional reaction. I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. I have emotions too, allegedly, But I still

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<v Speaker 1>say the great divide and the American people is and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody's got a touch of both in them, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but the great divide between the American people is the

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<v Speaker 1>practical people and the emotional people. People who live practical

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<v Speaker 1>lives that are enriched by their emotions, or people whose

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to everything is emotional and practical considerations don't even

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<v Speaker 1>enter into it if they cause, you know, negative emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea that I as a political being, as a

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<v Speaker 1>radio show, for instance, if I could not handle that

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<v Speaker 1>people hate it when you X and they love it

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<v Speaker 1>when you why. And I was so freaked out by that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, no, no, don't tell me that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't tell me that. I can't even imagine functioning in

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<v Speaker 1>that way. You know, it would be a great number.

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<v Speaker 3>To know, what of all the people that had to

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<v Speaker 3>call therapists yesterday to deal with the election?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? All of them? How often?

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<v Speaker 3>How many of those people will Obviously you wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>unhappy of your leaned right because your guy one, But

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<v Speaker 3>if Kamala had one, how many conservatives or Republicans would

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<v Speaker 3>have called a therapist to have an emergency meeting because

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<v Speaker 3>they were falling apart and couldn't go to work any

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Been on the losing out of plenty of lections, chagrined, annoyed,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even a little pissed off. But the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't function, I can't go to work is so

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<v Speaker 1>foreign to me. I'm I'm maybe it's that I'm getting older.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm through being flabbergasted by it, and I just would

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<v Speaker 1>like to understand it and try to figure out, for

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<v Speaker 1>the good of the republic and our politics and our society,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you communicate with those people. Is it possible

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<v Speaker 1>to reach them and pat them on the head or

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<v Speaker 1>does that sound condescending? I apologize pat them on the back?

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<v Speaker 1>Well I was, and say, look, I sincerely believe it

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<v Speaker 1>is this to my bones, and I've got an example

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<v Speaker 1>coming up later, there are people who actually think Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is going to suppress the free press in this country. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a blanket chance. Not for a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned person I saw in a focus group who said,

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<v Speaker 3>I have a friend there. They're gay, married, and there

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<v Speaker 3>they they're worried about their marriage being you know, taken

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<v Speaker 3>away from them if Trump wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Which isn't even nobody's having that conversation anywhere in America,

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<v Speaker 3>let alone is it going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>The legitimately sickening clip we ran from Jimmy Kimmel in

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<v Speaker 1>which he is breaking down in tears because of what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen to the children and the old people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sing the immigrants that have voted for Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, the hundreds of thousands of hardworking immigrants

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<v Speaker 1>that make this country go, well, they'll be fine. The

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<v Speaker 1>Venezuelan gang members are going to get their asses booted out,

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<v Speaker 1>thank goodness, Jimmy. But you're gonna be okay, sweetheart. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>there I was condescending again. I am so sorry. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to work at this.

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<v Speaker 3>I love hearing the left explaining why a majority of

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<v Speaker 3>Hispanic men voted for the guy who's promising mass deportation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not hard for me to understand, but it's very

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<v Speaker 3>hard for them to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you could make the argument that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folks from Mexico, the Triangle country of Central America,

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<v Speaker 1>and Venezuelans, because you know, the majority of Venezuelans who

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<v Speaker 1>come to this country are not members of trende Arragua.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some people are looking for a better life for

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<v Speaker 1>their family. But if you were to sit them down

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<v Speaker 1>and ask them in Spanish about why do you believe this,

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<v Speaker 1>that and the other, it would all boil down to

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<v Speaker 1>lawlessness and chaos. They understand that lawlessness breeds pain and death.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to explain that to them. They know it,

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<v Speaker 1>they've seen it, they've experienced it. So how could it

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<v Speaker 1>be that Hispanic people are good? Because your entire narrative

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<v Speaker 1>that wanting reasonable enforcement of our immigration laws is racist

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<v Speaker 1>is fictional. It's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to finish off the money story that we started with,

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<v Speaker 3>when it turns out money was the big difference maker

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<v Speaker 3>in a presidential election, it'll be the first time and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll bring you that story but so far it hasn't happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Read the money being spent you mean AD dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>money being spent, not the economy. Money being spent AD

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<v Speaker 3>dollars are the idea of buying the election. It just

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Read the freakonomics book from years ago or whatever. There's

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<v Speaker 3>example of an example of it not happening. And I

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<v Speaker 3>just went through all the swing states where the Harris

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<v Speaker 3>people outspent the Trump people like.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten to one.

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<v Speaker 3>So I understand it makes you would think that it

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<v Speaker 3>would make a difference, but for whatever reason, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Interestingly, analysts on all sides are saying the one ad

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<v Speaker 1>that moved the needle wasn't about inflation, it was about

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<v Speaker 1>the gender bending madness. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said yesterday, it's impossible to know how much

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<v Speaker 3>of that stuff is in the back of people's minds.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like an overall feeling of I can't vote

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<v Speaker 3>for that side, right, Yeah, Yeah, I read a great thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to dig that up from a tran I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so time changes and trans I can't get straight. It's

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<v Speaker 3>weird this person dresses as a woman, So that's a

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<v Speaker 3>trans woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a dude. That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for the sake of this argument, this is she

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<v Speaker 3>presents as a woman and goes by a female name and

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<v Speaker 3>calls herself her. She wrote a great piece yesterday about Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we made so much progress a trans being able to

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<v Speaker 3>be accepted and be in the workplace. We've got to

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<v Speaker 3>get away from this craziness of making people accept dudes

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<v Speaker 3>in girls' sports or forcing people to put pronouns. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we've ruined our lives with this. What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>It was really good. Yeah, well, said my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So, like I said, I actually have some hope for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time in a long time that maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>crossed some sort.

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<v Speaker 1>Of line of craziness and we're going back with a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of things. Yes, yeah, again, I feel the hope

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<v Speaker 1>of a huge job has begun and we've made a

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<v Speaker 1>little progress for the demo. There are millions of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two year olds being churned out of colleges this spring

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<v Speaker 1>who believe the woke badness to their bones. That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a long fight. That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 3>The advantage that side has is that our side is

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<v Speaker 3>dying off and the side that believes that crap is

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<v Speaker 3>about to take.

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<v Speaker 1>Over, and there are forty million k through twelve verse

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<v Speaker 1>right now who are being taught that garbage in your

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<v Speaker 1>local schools this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though I've seen so many Democratic strategists on various

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<v Speaker 3>cable news channels and read their columns recently talking about

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<v Speaker 3>we've gone too far with the culture stuff. That's not

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<v Speaker 3>where America is. That's not where the working classes.

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<v Speaker 1>Education is a subculture and it is utterly it's become

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<v Speaker 1>utterly perverse in this country.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I do want to at some point talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the difference in the coverage of Trump winning this time

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<v Speaker 3>versus last time, because you might not remember. It's completely

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<v Speaker 3>different and in a good way. But we got a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of stuff to talk about today.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us. I was just looking at the ABC

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<v Speaker 1>News report.

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<v Speaker 3>This is breaking news that North Korean troops are fighting Ukrainians.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping that's in Russia where they're doing that, because

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<v Speaker 3>there are Ukrainian troops in Russia. Remember they took some territory.

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<v Speaker 3>Because NATO announced that if Ukrainian troops are fighting in Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 3>if North Korean troops are fighting in Ukraine. NATO's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>put troops in Ukraine. Then we really got a world

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<v Speaker 3>war going on. Wow, Yeah, craziness.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus Russia tried to bring down a couple of American

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<v Speaker 1>airplanes and nobody's talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because it happened that news broke during the last

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<v Speaker 3>days of an election, right, right. But I found this

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<v Speaker 3>so interesting and different. It's a completely different topic.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to quote the vice president who is

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<v Speaker 1>still sitting and Joe Biden is still the president. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>told that seems wrong atleact he's given a speech today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be good. They mentioned the million times that Kamala

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<v Speaker 1>Harris said it's about paying their fair share. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>mad at anybody for achieving success, but everyone should pay

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<v Speaker 1>their fair share. And of course, pay their fair share

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<v Speaker 1>is a practiced mantra in Washington. Is this think piece

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<v Speaker 1>points out and quotes everybody from Bernie Sanders Dooci to

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Warren over and over and over again. Then, as usual,

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<v Speaker 1>we turned to the statistics that show the top one

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<v Speaker 1>percent of earners paid forty six percent of all federal

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<v Speaker 1>income taxes, so damn near half for one percent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the top five percent paid sixty six percent of

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<v Speaker 1>income taxes, thirds of taxes.

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<v Speaker 3>Paid by five percent. Again, I always ask define fair

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<v Speaker 3>to me? What would be the fair number to you?

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<v Speaker 1>All of it? Right, three learners? What's it supposed to be?

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny that something that's ubiquitous and the political conversation

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<v Speaker 1>is so wrong. Anyway, this isn't about that exactly. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a historical look at the quote unquote rich and the

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<v Speaker 1>products that they embraced. And then, as Ludwig von Mises said,

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<v Speaker 1>every innovation makes its appearance as a luxury of the

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<v Speaker 1>few well to do. After industry has become aware of it,

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<v Speaker 1>the luxury then becomes a necessity for all. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you some examples. But by this mechanism, to quote

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<v Speaker 1>a different thinker, capitalism has its own built in welfare

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<v Speaker 1>transfer system from rich to the poor. Home electricity first

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<v Speaker 1>introduced that the world's fair in eighteen ninety three. In

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty one, a single light bulb cost thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in today's money. It is unlikely today any city

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<v Speaker 1>would grant a certificate of occupancy if a building were

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<v Speaker 1>not connected to the electrical grid. But rich people adopted

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<v Speaker 1>their light bulb industry said, Wow, that's a great idea,

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<v Speaker 1>and they found a way to manufacture them much more cheaply,

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<v Speaker 1>and then everybody could have them. Conditioning back when Willis

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<v Speaker 1>Carrier came up with it in nineteen oh two in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that could be commercialized. The first air conditioners

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<v Speaker 1>took an entire room and cost the equivalent of three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand to one point six million dollars. Wow. In

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<v Speaker 1>modern dollars, economies of scale reduced the price between five

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<v Speaker 1>and ten thousand dollars installed for a central unit. You

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<v Speaker 1>can get a wall unit for two hundred dollars. Automobiles

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible luxury of only the super rich until it

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<v Speaker 1>caught on and an industry jumped in cell phones, remember

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<v Speaker 1>the brick phones, Hollywood agents and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the point of this piece, which is really quite

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and we'll post it at Armstrong and Getty dot com, is,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of vilifying success and claiming the rich don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>their fair share, policy makers should recognize the vital role

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<v Speaker 1>that wealth creation plays in society. Punitive tax policies aimed

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<v Speaker 1>at the ultra rich will do more harm than goods,

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<v Speaker 1>stifling entrepreneurship and the very drivers of human and progress

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<v Speaker 1>that benefit all Americans. It's a hard thing to sell

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody wants to stand up for wealthy people.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I got so much to say about that, but

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<v Speaker 3>we are out of time. We have more on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>If you miss an ur get the podcast Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>There's misogyny.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not just misogyny for white men. It's misogyny

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<v Speaker 4>from Hispanic men, right, it's misogyny from black men. Things

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<v Speaker 4>we've all been talking about. Who do not want a

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<v Speaker 4>woman leading?

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<v Speaker 1>The Black voters came through for Kamala Harris. White women

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<v Speaker 1>voters did not.

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<v Speaker 5>She is a person of color, she is a she,

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<v Speaker 5>and she is an interracial marriage. And I wonder I

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<v Speaker 5>have this question mark in my mind. Oh we wherether

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<v Speaker 5>All of those things combined was too much for pockets

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<v Speaker 5>of this country.

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<v Speaker 6>There were appeals to racism in this campaign, and there

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<v Speaker 6>is racial bias in this country, and there is sexism

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<v Speaker 6>in this country. And anybody who thinks that that did

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<v Speaker 6>not in any way impact on the outcome of this

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<v Speaker 6>race is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>In any way.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So if anybody, if there's a single vote out

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<v Speaker 3>of one hundred and fifty million vote that had something

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<v Speaker 3>to do with the race.

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<v Speaker 1>That's worth having the That's not the driving force though,

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<v Speaker 1>or even close right. I'm just maybe it's the mood

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in. I am so interested in the blindness of

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<v Speaker 1>these people, and I will want to kick them and

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<v Speaker 1>mock them again soon, but for now, I just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out a way for the good of

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<v Speaker 1>the country to reach them.

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<v Speaker 3>A friend of mine said to this text yesterday their workplace,

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<v Speaker 3>which actually is a government workplace, I said, anybody at

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<v Speaker 3>your work need counseling, because they actually had offered counseling

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<v Speaker 3>the day before for anybody who would be upset, probably

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<v Speaker 3>a taxpair expense. A lot of puffy eyes from the men.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them put his arm around my shoulder, which

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<v Speaker 3>I shrugged off, and told me anyone who voted for

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is a racist.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the only explanation.

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<v Speaker 3>And this person was assuming that the person they put

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<v Speaker 3>their arm around a read with them politically, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>because for some reason, the left particularly just assumes you

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<v Speaker 3>can say extraordinarily out of bounds things to everyone, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're just supposed to keep our mouths shut and put

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<v Speaker 3>up with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they have created their own bubble in that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking mostly for people in Bluish parts of the

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<v Speaker 1>country that if somebody says they're a liberal among conservatives,

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<v Speaker 1>the reaction is, so, what are you gonna do? If

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<v Speaker 1>somebody says they're a conservative. Among liberals, the reaction is

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<v Speaker 1>never ending shower of hate and derision. So could it

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<v Speaker 1>be that there are lots of people who are these strange,

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<v Speaker 1>hateful people. They're close to you, but they don't say

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<v Speaker 1>anything because you're so mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, I got in the workplace yesterday with a whole

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of people I would have never have guessed were

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<v Speaker 3>so thrilled with Drum's victory because you have to keep

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<v Speaker 3>your mouth shut.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, listening to that montage of clips,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm fascinated and well, just astounded by nobody

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<v Speaker 1>to Kamala Harris failed miserably in the Democratic primaries not

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<v Speaker 1>long ago. She had awful approval ratings as the vice president.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you had a white dude who failed miserably

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<v Speaker 1>in the primaries, then had awful approval numbers as vice

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<v Speaker 1>president and he lost, why would you explain that racism? Okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So why is that incredibly so obvious. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bother repeating it. Explanation not applicable here, Help me understand,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to have that country.

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<v Speaker 3>Well for a guy to put his armor on someone

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<v Speaker 3>say racism. It's the only explanation?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the only explanation? I feel like I could come.

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<v Speaker 3>Up with some like start with maybe the two issues

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<v Speaker 3>that every pool showed were the most important issues to people,

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<v Speaker 3>the economy in the border, which were right well on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Side of Trump. Thanks for the Thanks for the companying

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<v Speaker 1>arm around my shoulder, But what about the by far

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<v Speaker 1>two biggest issues in the election, anything any significance to those?

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<v Speaker 1>You think? Yeah, just frustrating. So I've been pouring through

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of different think pieces from the liberal media,

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<v Speaker 1>including this forum between many of the greatest thinkers at

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington Post, Ruth Marcus and David something I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even remember, but anyway, David says, my biggest question is

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<v Speaker 1>what comes next for Democrats. There will inevitably be hard

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<v Speaker 1>questions about why Harris didn't do better. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>whether people will blame the progressive wing of the party

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<v Speaker 1>or progressives will claim they were right and Harris made

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<v Speaker 1>a big mistake in moving to the center. For the Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>the next step read it that way. Good luck you

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<v Speaker 1>were progressive enough. Yeah, that's a good read. Again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just weird. I just don't get it. The biggest and

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<v Speaker 1>scariest question as we contemplate the likelihood of a Trump

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<v Speaker 1>victory is will they wage a war of retribution? And

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<v Speaker 1>Matt asks, I mean we say, oh, you mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>former AIDS who described Trump as a fascist, which is

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<v Speaker 1>true they did. But David says, Ruth, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>legal system better than anyone. Do you think our courts

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<v Speaker 1>and legal institutions are strong enough to protect our country

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<v Speaker 1>against the danger that Matt describes of a Trump fascist tendencies?

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<v Speaker 1>Ruth says, in terms of jailing reporters and prosecuting opponents,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the answer is somewhat. But detention camps, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, for whom, Like for illegal immigrants? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean like the very same facilities that Obama used that

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<v Speaker 1>were filled to bursting, Yeah, they might happen. Dismantling the

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<v Speaker 1>civil service now I've run into that in several places.

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<v Speaker 1>The discussion of how it is an unmitigated and unmistakable

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<v Speaker 1>evil to reduce the size of the federal government. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to get to that later.

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<v Speaker 3>Wall Street Journal has a good piece about how many

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<v Speaker 3>more federal employees there are now than there were just

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years ago, and Elon's gonna take that on.

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<v Speaker 3>But as you just pointed out, a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>people think doing away with any any government job is

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<v Speaker 3>a horror.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. First of all, we can do the whole hour

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<v Speaker 1>on that next hour, and I would be thrilled. But

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<v Speaker 1>dismantling the civil service is listed as something is clear

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<v Speaker 1>that is clearly an indisputably un evil thing. And again

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta stop you. And these people are bright. They're

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<v Speaker 1>utterly well lacking in wisdom and perspective, but they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>reasonably bright. And I would say, I'm getting the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that any reduction of the federal workforce is a bad

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<v Speaker 1>thing to you? Does it follow then that any growth

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<v Speaker 1>in the federal workforce is a good thing. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this. How do you not How does that not

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<v Speaker 1>enter into your head as you're forming an argument? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Then she tries to shame the justices. Bah

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<v Speaker 1>bah bah uh. It's then Math tries to drag him

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<v Speaker 1>back to reality. It's worth noting that at this writing

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<v Speaker 1>it seems very possible that Trump also one of the

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<v Speaker 1>popular vote, you can even pass the fifty percent threshold.

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<v Speaker 1>It does seem like a moment when we have to

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<v Speaker 1>take stock of the country we're living in and admit,

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<v Speaker 1>as Ruth said at the outset, that it might not

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<v Speaker 1>be the country some of us thought it was. Whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're at a crossroads, stopped at the traffic light,

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of time to decide we're gonna turn right or

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<v Speaker 1>go straight or left or whatever. Is it not the

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<v Speaker 1>country you thought it was, because it's actually far worse

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<v Speaker 1>and far evil, which is where they're going right? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is it because you have failed to perceive the country

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<v Speaker 1>as it is. It's not us, it's you. But they

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<v Speaker 1>never even entertain that notion.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as you heard Scarborough yesterday on Morning Joe lecturing

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<v Speaker 3>Hispanic men and black men for being sexist and racist

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<v Speaker 3>in all kinds of different things, because what else are

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<v Speaker 3>you gonna do other than recognize that men in particular

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<v Speaker 3>ain't digging a lot of your.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy wol policies right right. And then finally this from David.

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<v Speaker 1>He says they're talking about what would have mattered, what

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<v Speaker 1>might have won it, And he says, I wish Harris

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<v Speaker 1>had somehow found a way to make the American people

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<v Speaker 1>seem more clearly Donald Trump is so. At the Washington Post,

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<v Speaker 1>they're leading thinkers think the problem was Kamala didn't lean

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<v Speaker 1>enough into Trump is evil. And I've got half a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen of these examples. But I love what George Will wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>and he of course talks about she's really not a

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<v Speaker 1>good campaigner at all, not a good not a good candidation,

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<v Speaker 1>never been popular, never really won anything on the national stage, vapid.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he pointed out, and I love this, she

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<v Speaker 1>mocked Trump for being such a feeble president that he

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<v Speaker 1>could not even build his border wall. Simultaneously, she made

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<v Speaker 1>it clear that in a second term, the triumph of

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<v Speaker 1>his hitlarian values with steamroll America's democratic institutions. Perhaps voters

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<v Speaker 1>detected a contradiction. Yes, he's so weak he couldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>build his wall, but if he wins, he will become

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<v Speaker 1>hit letter at rules and stand us ride to the

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<v Speaker 1>United States crushing which one was it? And then this

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't even touch on it in the Washington Post

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<v Speaker 1>editorial board, except in that very brief discussion of maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the progressives were right, maybe she shouldn't attack to the center,

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<v Speaker 1>and Will puts it beautifully as I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>in other's Harris, who called Trump weird, leads a party

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<v Speaker 1>hospitable to advanced thinkers who believe that men can menstruate.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of weird, the Biden Harris administration Secretary of Health

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<v Speaker 1>and Human Services could not be cajoled during Senate testimony

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<v Speaker 1>to refer to mothers as other than birthing people. And

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps they're still loud. It's kind of funny. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Harris's difficulties with male voters had something to do with

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<v Speaker 1>their party having too many members who think that, in

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<v Speaker 1>their favorite phrase, toxic masculinity, the adjective is actually redundant.

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<v Speaker 1>All masculinity is toxic. Trump has hardly monopolized the supply

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<v Speaker 1>of weirdness. Yeah, no kidding, and they can weard fast.

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<v Speaker 1>I Ah, I'm not sure how much progress we can

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<v Speaker 1>make as a country until we clean out the rot,

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<v Speaker 1>the infection of our education systems that are churning out

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<v Speaker 1>generation after generation of Ruth Marcus's The Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 1>Ruth I was referring to speaking of our education system.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess what college canceled classes yesterday because of the election.

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<v Speaker 3>We might be closer to World War than we've been

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<v Speaker 3>in a long time, and it's not getting much attention

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<v Speaker 3>because the election. We'll get to that coming up in

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, but Harvard professors canceled a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>classes yesterday students feeling too much emotion the day after

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<v Speaker 3>the loss of their candidate courses such had Ivy League colleges.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm leaving out to technical education. They're a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>It is crazy. So in theory, or it used to be,

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<v Speaker 3>people viewed it this way that the best colleges of

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<v Speaker 3>the smartest students in America. We all know that's a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of crap now, but they're too weak to go

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<v Speaker 3>to school when they're preferred presidential candidate loses courses such

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<v Speaker 3>as Sociology eleven fifty six, Statistics for Social Sciences, and

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<v Speaker 3>Applied math Solving and Optimizing is where well as several

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<v Speaker 3>general education courses. The ancient Greek hero popular culture. In

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<v Speaker 3>modern China, all canceled classes Wednesday, made attendance optional, or

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<v Speaker 3>extended assignment deadlines. You know, I'm not as we recover

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<v Speaker 3>this was the language as we recover from the eventful

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<v Speaker 3>election night process the implications of Trump's victory. Please know

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<v Speaker 3>that classes will proceed in this manner and cancel extended assignments,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not entirely comfortable with this metaphor because there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many great moms in the world, But you got

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<v Speaker 1>your your mommy impulses and your daddy impulses. And when

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<v Speaker 1>the kid falls down, skins his knee, or the election

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<v Speaker 1>goes the wrong way that the cliche admittedly mommy impulses

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<v Speaker 1>oh honey, oh sweetheart, oh my darling, and the daddy impulses, Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be fine, Go play, go have fun. We

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<v Speaker 1>need so much more of the daddy impulse on the

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<v Speaker 1>college campuses. Hey, I know you're dis wanted, but applied math.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to work, get up, You're gonna have You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be fine. We need so much more of that.

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<v Speaker 3>How few years ago would it have been insane to

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<v Speaker 3>hear that one person in America couldn't go to work

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<v Speaker 3>or school the next day after a presidential election, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're including the guy you lost, if you'd have heard

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<v Speaker 3>of one person, you'd have thought, Wow, that poor person

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<v Speaker 3>is really weak or crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's just accepted for grown ups, right what, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that is a real cultural change. Where did

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<v Speaker 1>it come from? Education?

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<v Speaker 3>North Korean troops fight Ukrainians that ain't good? Among other

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<v Speaker 3>things on the way are from.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope with the presidential election over and maybe by

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow we'll be back to paying attention to all the

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<v Speaker 3>news that's going on around the world or in our

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<v Speaker 3>country that's not about who's president at any given time,

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<v Speaker 3>including what's going on in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's latest report from ABC News.

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<v Speaker 7>North Korean troops have now engaged in combat with the

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<v Speaker 7>Ukrainian forces for the first time. This is according to

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<v Speaker 7>both Ukrainian and US officials. More than ten thousand North

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<v Speaker 7>Koreans are now believed to have joined the fighting alongside

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<v Speaker 7>Russian forces.

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<v Speaker 1>The class has taken place in Curse.

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<v Speaker 7>Remember this is the border region of Russia. The Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 7>forces invaded over the summer, partly taking over areas of it.

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<v Speaker 7>It marks a significant escalation. I think in this conflict

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<v Speaker 7>there's now going spectacularly badly for Ukraine, and he's going

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<v Speaker 7>to present a huge challenge for.

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<v Speaker 1>Presidents elect Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>President Zelenski speaking to Trump saying I had an excellent

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<v Speaker 7>call with him and that strong and I'm wavering US

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<v Speaker 7>leadership is vital for the world and for a just peace.

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<v Speaker 7>Remember Trump promised to end this conflict within twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 7>so now his transition team is going to have to

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<v Speaker 7>try and turn those promises into reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Did he say it, it's going spectacularly bad for Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Wow. Did you see the drone attack Ukraine had on.

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<v Speaker 3>The ships, the Russian ships yesterday? Well that was something

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's technology that we've sent them or.

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<v Speaker 1>What, but some of it is. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So you got North Korean troops fighting Ukrainians in Russia

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<v Speaker 3>alongside Russian troops. NATO has said if North Korean troops

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<v Speaker 3>are fighting in Ukraine, then we're going to put NATO

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<v Speaker 3>troops in Ukraine. I assume with the idea of this

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<v Speaker 3>is a serious red line. I mean, you do not

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<v Speaker 3>want to cross the red line of putting North Korean

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<v Speaker 3>troops in Russia. Why would the world make that such

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<v Speaker 3>a declaration. Why are Russian troops, you know, killing families

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<v Speaker 3>in their homes in Ukraine, something NATO won't stand up against,

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<v Speaker 3>but North Korean troops would be. I suspect very strongly,

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<v Speaker 3>although I have not, you know, heard the exact reasoning

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<v Speaker 3>of the Europeans and the NATO leadership. But you have

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<v Speaker 3>an organized multi country war of conquest in Europe, including

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<v Speaker 3>North Korea, which has got zero business fighting over anything

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<v Speaker 3>in Europe borders or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's just no no. If you're recruiting Asian

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<v Speaker 1>countries to come and kill Europeans and help you out, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Europe has to stand up against that, and their biggest

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<v Speaker 1>ally of the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that Bob Woodward book that came out a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks ago, and like all Bob Woodward books,

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<v Speaker 3>got a whole bunch of attention for a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>days with some cherry picked out of context quotes that

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<v Speaker 3>hurt the Republican and helped the Democrat, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>book goes away. Well, I'm actually reading the book and

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff about Trump is like I wouldn't even have

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<v Speaker 3>noticed it.

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<v Speaker 1>At all.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just like reading the book, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>stand out as interesting at all. A couple of things

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<v Speaker 3>that did stand out is interesting. This is the first

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<v Speaker 3>place I've seen reporting where we had a human in

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<v Speaker 3>the Kremlin. That's where we were getting all our information,

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<v Speaker 3>and why we knew Russia was going to go into

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine and knew so much about it. We had an

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<v Speaker 3>actual human being in the Kremlin close to Putin as

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<v Speaker 3>a source.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something. And this as they suffered an unfortunate fall human.

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<v Speaker 3>And this I thought this should have been the explosive

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<v Speaker 3>nugget from Woodward's book. During the presidential election, Putin actually

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<v Speaker 3>went into Ukraine because of the way Biden handled Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 3>He saw by dealing with that and thought, oh man,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no way he can stop us.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to tell me that that's not worthy of

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<v Speaker 3>discussion as a political story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. The media must have skimmed the book so

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<v Speaker 1>quickly they missed that part. Right. You cannot have enough

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<v Speaker 1>contempt for the dishonesty the mainstream media. You'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>work on it all day long and do I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>exercises or something in other words, that trick it up.

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, the Trump claimed that he would have

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<v Speaker 3>never done that if I was in office is quite

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<v Speaker 3>possibly true.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is. I've always thought that I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Trump's bluster is bull crap, but that

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<v Speaker 1>I agreed with Oh speaking of Russia and explosive nuggets,

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<v Speaker 1>Western security officials believe that two incendiary devices shipped via

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<v Speaker 1>DHL were part of a covert Russian operation that ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>aimed to start fires aboard cargo or passenger aircraft flying

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<v Speaker 1>to the US in Canada, part of Moscow's sabotage campaign

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<v Speaker 1>against Washington and its allies. Gold device is ignited in

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<v Speaker 1>Germany and England. What's your goal there? To start a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear holocaust? You bring down a passenger plane and we

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<v Speaker 1>can trust to Russia. We're at war, aren't we? Uh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a warm war somewhere between cold and hot Man. Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>inheriting all this, and who knows how he's gonna handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty