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Speaker 3: gotta push back on the polling thing. The the the

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Speaker 3: drum beat of the poles are wrong again. Who believes

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Speaker 3: what they they had it? It was gonna be within

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Speaker 3: like three four points that was the margin of air,

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Speaker 3: and they could go either way, and lots of people

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Speaker 3: were saying they could all break the same direction.

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Speaker 1: Right, So I saw a big long list of everything

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Speaker 1: that was one and a half points off. That's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how accurate do you want them to be? And

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Speaker 3: in what world do you think that could possibly happen?

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Speaker 3: Uh So, Elon Musk is getting a fair amount of attention.

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Speaker 1: I noticed. Let me read just a couple of things

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Speaker 1: for you. This is from the wappo.

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Speaker 3: I think with his super pack, Elon Musk was able

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Speaker 3: to put a thumb on the scale of a presidential

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Speaker 3: election like no ultra wealthy donor before him.

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Speaker 1: All right, ignoring I'll imagine that social media playing a

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Speaker 1: role in what people say, Ignoring all the other gazillionaires

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Speaker 1: that have weighed in Zuckerberg, Google, everybody else. But more

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Speaker 1: on that. In just a second tick tack, you have many,

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Speaker 1: many multiples of the people on Twitter. Okay, came across

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Speaker 1: this guy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know his name, but he's a big deal

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Speaker 3: in lefty media politics sort of person tweeted out. Democrats

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Speaker 3: are going to keep losing until they have their own

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Speaker 3: Joe Rogan, their own Elon Muskin, until they create their

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Speaker 3: own alternative to Fox News. It is not good enough

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Speaker 3: to contest conservative messaging in these existing spaces.

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Speaker 1: Democrats must create their own.

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Speaker 3: So the idea so having the CBS Evening News, ABC

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Speaker 3: Evening News, Washington Post, New York Times, all of Hollywood,

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Speaker 3: all of social media except for Twitter. Education now all

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Speaker 3: the schools from kindergarten through graduate school.

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Speaker 1: That's not good enough. I guess it's incredibly mockable. But

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Speaker 1: maybe it's just my mood. I'm just I'm so intrigued

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Speaker 1: trying to understand someone who is that blind? Or is

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Speaker 1: it that so many people have bought the notion that

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Speaker 1: the massive media entertainment education complex is not biased. That's it,

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Speaker 1: that's it.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't think him stating we need our own Fox News.

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Speaker 1: You have it. He's got like eleven of them.

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Speaker 3: It's called enos, NBC and CNN. And did you watch

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Speaker 3: the debates for interest for instance? Did you watch those

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Speaker 3: or most of the interviews that were clearly designed to

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't feel that way to them. I guess

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Speaker 1: you need your own Joe Rogan NPR. It's like the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing in terrestrial radio, as we call old school radio. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that just again. I would like to and will

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Speaker 3: The idea that Google and Facebook and all the things

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Speaker 3: we've already mentioned don't balance out Elon Muskin anyway. But

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many times I've heard in

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Speaker 3: the last twenty four hours the idea, well, when you

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Speaker 3: Only in Pennsylvania did the Republicans come close to spending

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Speaker 3: less but close, And every other swing state that Trump

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Speaker 1: Wasn't even close.

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Speaker 3: It was like nine to one in terms of Democrats

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at the bottom of the hour, I want to

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Speaker 3: See, we had the advantage in money we control, like

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody's got a touch of both in them, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Don't tell me that. I can't even imagine functioning in

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Speaker 3: To know, what of all the people that had to

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Speaker 1: Yeah? All of them? How often?

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Speaker 3: How many of those people will Obviously you wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: how do you communicate with those people. Is it possible

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Speaker 1: Well I was, and say, look, I sincerely believe it

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Speaker 1: I had a blanket chance. Not for a minute.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned person I saw in a focus group who said,

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Which isn't even nobody's having that conversation anywhere in America,

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Speaker 1: The legitimately sickening clip we ran from Jimmy Kimmel in

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Speaker 1: And I'm sing the immigrants that have voted for Trump,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the hundreds of thousands of hardworking immigrants

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Speaker 1: thank goodness, Jimmy. But you're gonna be okay, sweetheart. Oh

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Speaker 1: there I was condescending again. I am so sorry. I'm

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Speaker 3: I love hearing the left explaining why a majority of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you could make the argument that a lot

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Speaker 1: You don't have to explain that to them. They know it,

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Speaker 1: they've seen it, they've experienced it. So how could it

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Speaker 3: Just to finish off the money story that we started with,

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Speaker 3: we'll bring you that story but so far it hasn't happened.

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Speaker 3: Like I said yesterday, it's impossible to know how much

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Speaker 3: It was really good. Yeah, well, said my friend.

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Speaker 1: There's misogyny.

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Speaker 1: be the country some of us thought it was. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: Now we're at a crossroads, stopped at the traffic light,

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Speaker 1: plenty of time to decide we're gonna turn right or

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Speaker 1: go straight or left or whatever. Is it not the

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Speaker 1: country you thought it was, because it's actually far worse

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Speaker 1: and far evil, which is where they're going right? Or

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Speaker 1: is it because you have failed to perceive the country

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Speaker 1: as it is. It's not us, it's you. But they

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Speaker 1: never even entertain that notion.

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Speaker 3: Well, as you heard Scarborough yesterday on Morning Joe lecturing

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Speaker 3: Hispanic men and black men for being sexist and racist

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Speaker 3: in all kinds of different things, because what else are

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Speaker 3: you gonna do other than recognize that men in particular

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Speaker 3: ain't digging a lot of your.

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Speaker 1: Crazy wol policies right right. And then finally this from David.

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Speaker 1: He says they're talking about what would have mattered, what

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Speaker 1: might have won it, And he says, I wish Harris

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Speaker 1: had somehow found a way to make the American people

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Speaker 1: seem more clearly Donald Trump is so. At the Washington Post,

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Speaker 1: they're leading thinkers think the problem was Kamala didn't lean

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Speaker 1: enough into Trump is evil. And I've got half a

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Speaker 1: dozen of these examples. But I love what George Will wrote,

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Speaker 1: and he of course talks about she's really not a

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Speaker 1: good campaigner at all, not a good not a good candidation,

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Speaker 1: never been popular, never really won anything on the national stage, vapid.

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Speaker 1: And then he pointed out, and I love this, she

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Speaker 1: mocked Trump for being such a feeble president that he

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Speaker 1: could not even build his border wall. Simultaneously, she made

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Speaker 1: it clear that in a second term, the triumph of

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Speaker 1: his hitlarian values with steamroll America's democratic institutions. Perhaps voters

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Speaker 1: detected a contradiction. Yes, he's so weak he couldn't even

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Speaker 1: build his wall, but if he wins, he will become

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Speaker 1: hit letter at rules and stand us ride to the

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Speaker 1: United States crushing which one was it? And then this

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Speaker 1: they didn't even touch on it in the Washington Post

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Speaker 1: editorial board, except in that very brief discussion of maybe

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Speaker 1: the progressives were right, maybe she shouldn't attack to the center,

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Speaker 1: and Will puts it beautifully as I think we have

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Speaker 1: in other's Harris, who called Trump weird, leads a party

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Speaker 1: hospitable to advanced thinkers who believe that men can menstruate.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of weird, the Biden Harris administration Secretary of Health

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Speaker 1: and Human Services could not be cajoled during Senate testimony

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Speaker 1: to refer to mothers as other than birthing people. And

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Speaker 1: perhaps they're still loud. It's kind of funny. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Harris's difficulties with male voters had something to do with

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Speaker 1: their party having too many members who think that, in

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Speaker 1: their favorite phrase, toxic masculinity, the adjective is actually redundant.

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Speaker 1: All masculinity is toxic. Trump has hardly monopolized the supply

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Speaker 1: of weirdness. Yeah, no kidding, and they can weard fast.

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Speaker 1: I Ah, I'm not sure how much progress we can

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Speaker 1: make as a country until we clean out the rot,

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Speaker 1: the infection of our education systems that are churning out

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Speaker 1: generation after generation of Ruth Marcus's The Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 1: Ruth I was referring to speaking of our education system.

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Speaker 3: Guess what college canceled classes yesterday because of the election.

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Speaker 3: We might be closer to World War than we've been

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Speaker 3: in a long time, and it's not getting much attention

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Speaker 3: because the election. We'll get to that coming up in

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Speaker 3: a little bit, but Harvard professors canceled a lot of

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Speaker 3: classes yesterday students feeling too much emotion the day after

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Speaker 3: the loss of their candidate courses such had Ivy League colleges.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm leaving out to technical education. They're a joke.

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Speaker 3: It is crazy. So in theory, or it used to be,

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Speaker 3: people viewed it this way that the best colleges of

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Speaker 3: the smartest students in America. We all know that's a

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Speaker 3: bunch of crap now, but they're too weak to go

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Speaker 3: to school when they're preferred presidential candidate loses courses such

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Speaker 3: as Sociology eleven fifty six, Statistics for Social Sciences, and

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Speaker 3: Applied math Solving and Optimizing is where well as several

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Speaker 3: general education courses. The ancient Greek hero popular culture. In

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Speaker 3: modern China, all canceled classes Wednesday, made attendance optional, or

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Speaker 3: extended assignment deadlines. You know, I'm not as we recover

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Speaker 3: this was the language as we recover from the eventful

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Speaker 3: election night process the implications of Trump's victory. Please know

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Speaker 3: that classes will proceed in this manner and cancel extended assignments,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: I'm not entirely comfortable with this metaphor because there are

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Speaker 1: so many great moms in the world, But you got

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Speaker 1: your your mommy impulses and your daddy impulses. And when

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Speaker 1: the kid falls down, skins his knee, or the election

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Speaker 1: goes the wrong way that the cliche admittedly mommy impulses

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Speaker 1: oh honey, oh sweetheart, oh my darling, and the daddy impulses, Ah,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine, Go play, go have fun. We

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Speaker 1: need so much more of the daddy impulse on the

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Speaker 1: college campuses. Hey, I know you're dis wanted, but applied math.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to work, get up, You're gonna have You're

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Speaker 1: gonna be fine. We need so much more of that.

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Speaker 3: How few years ago would it have been insane to

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Speaker 3: hear that one person in America couldn't go to work

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Speaker 3: or school the next day after a presidential election, if

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Speaker 3: you're including the guy you lost, if you'd have heard

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Speaker 3: of one person, you'd have thought, Wow, that poor person

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Speaker 3: is really weak or crazy.

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Speaker 1: Now it's just accepted for grown ups, right what, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know that is a real cultural change. Where did

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Speaker 1: it come from? Education?

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Speaker 3: North Korean troops fight Ukrainians that ain't good? Among other

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Speaker 3: things on the way are from.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 3: I hope with the presidential election over and maybe by

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Speaker 3: tomorrow we'll be back to paying attention to all the

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Speaker 3: news that's going on around the world or in our

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Speaker 3: country that's not about who's president at any given time,

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Speaker 3: including what's going on in Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Here's latest report from ABC News.

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Speaker 7: North Korean troops have now engaged in combat with the

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Speaker 7: Ukrainian forces for the first time. This is according to

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Speaker 7: both Ukrainian and US officials. More than ten thousand North

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Speaker 7: Koreans are now believed to have joined the fighting alongside

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Speaker 7: Russian forces.

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Speaker 1: The class has taken place in Curse.

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Speaker 7: Remember this is the border region of Russia. The Ukrainian

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Speaker 7: forces invaded over the summer, partly taking over areas of it.

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Speaker 7: It marks a significant escalation. I think in this conflict

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Speaker 7: there's now going spectacularly badly for Ukraine, and he's going

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Speaker 7: to present a huge challenge for.

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Speaker 1: Presidents elect Trump.

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Speaker 7: President Zelenski speaking to Trump saying I had an excellent

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Speaker 7: call with him and that strong and I'm wavering US

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Speaker 7: leadership is vital for the world and for a just peace.

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Speaker 7: Remember Trump promised to end this conflict within twenty four hours,

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Speaker 7: so now his transition team is going to have to

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Speaker 7: try and turn those promises into reality.

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Speaker 3: Did he say it, it's going spectacularly bad for Ukraine?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Wow. Did you see the drone attack Ukraine had on.

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Speaker 3: The ships, the Russian ships yesterday? Well that was something

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's technology that we've sent them or.

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Speaker 1: What, but some of it is. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So you got North Korean troops fighting Ukrainians in Russia

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Speaker 3: alongside Russian troops. NATO has said if North Korean troops

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Speaker 3: are fighting in Ukraine, then we're going to put NATO

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Speaker 3: troops in Ukraine. I assume with the idea of this

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Speaker 3: is a serious red line. I mean, you do not

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Speaker 3: want to cross the red line of putting North Korean

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Speaker 3: troops in Russia. Why would the world make that such

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Speaker 3: a declaration. Why are Russian troops, you know, killing families

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Speaker 3: in their homes in Ukraine, something NATO won't stand up against,

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Speaker 3: but North Korean troops would be. I suspect very strongly,

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Speaker 3: although I have not, you know, heard the exact reasoning

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Speaker 3: of the Europeans and the NATO leadership. But you have

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Speaker 3: an organized multi country war of conquest in Europe, including

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Speaker 3: North Korea, which has got zero business fighting over anything

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Speaker 3: in Europe borders or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's just no no. If you're recruiting Asian

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Speaker 1: countries to come and kill Europeans and help you out, no,

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Speaker 1: Europe has to stand up against that, and their biggest

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Speaker 1: ally of the United States.

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Speaker 3: You know that Bob Woodward book that came out a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, and like all Bob Woodward books,

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Speaker 3: got a whole bunch of attention for a couple of

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Speaker 3: days with some cherry picked out of context quotes that

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Speaker 3: hurt the Republican and helped the Democrat, and then the

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Speaker 3: book goes away. Well, I'm actually reading the book and

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Speaker 3: the stuff about Trump is like I wouldn't even have

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Speaker 3: noticed it.

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Speaker 1: At all.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like reading the book, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: stand out as interesting at all. A couple of things

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Speaker 3: that did stand out is interesting. This is the first

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Speaker 3: place I've seen reporting where we had a human in

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Speaker 3: the Kremlin. That's where we were getting all our information,

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Speaker 3: and why we knew Russia was going to go into

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Speaker 3: Ukraine and knew so much about it. We had an

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Speaker 3: actual human being in the Kremlin close to Putin as

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Speaker 3: a source.

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Speaker 1: That's something. And this as they suffered an unfortunate fall human.

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Speaker 3: And this I thought this should have been the explosive

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Speaker 3: nugget from Woodward's book. During the presidential election, Putin actually

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Speaker 3: went into Ukraine because of the way Biden handled Afghanistan.

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Speaker 3: He saw by dealing with that and thought, oh man,

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Speaker 3: there's no way he can stop us.

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Speaker 1: Look at that.

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Speaker 3: You're going to tell me that that's not worthy of

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Speaker 3: discussion as a political story.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. The media must have skimmed the book so

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Speaker 1: quickly they missed that part. Right. You cannot have enough

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Speaker 1: contempt for the dishonesty the mainstream media. You'd have to

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Speaker 1: work on it all day long and do I don't know,

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Speaker 1: exercises or something in other words, that trick it up.

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Speaker 3: In other words, the Trump claimed that he would have

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Speaker 3: never done that if I was in office is quite

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Speaker 3: possibly true.

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Speaker 1: I think it is. I've always thought that I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of Trump's bluster is bull crap, but that

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Speaker 1: I agreed with Oh speaking of Russia and explosive nuggets,

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Speaker 1: Western security officials believe that two incendiary devices shipped via

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Speaker 1: DHL were part of a covert Russian operation that ultimately

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Speaker 1: aimed to start fires aboard cargo or passenger aircraft flying

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Speaker 1: to the US in Canada, part of Moscow's sabotage campaign

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Speaker 1: against Washington and its allies. Gold device is ignited in

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Speaker 1: Germany and England. What's your goal there? To start a

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Speaker 1: nuclear holocaust? You bring down a passenger plane and we

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Speaker 1: can trust to Russia. We're at war, aren't we? Uh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a warm war somewhere between cold and hot Man. Trump's

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Speaker 1: inheriting all this, and who knows how he's gonna handle it.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty