WEBVTT - Episode 219 - Solving for the Unknowns

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies. These episodes are based on.

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<v Speaker 3>These are our stories, done done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yay, that's messed up. A SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Lisa, my name is Kara, and we

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<v Speaker 1>every week on this podcast go through an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>SVU the true crime it's based on.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes we have a guest.

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<v Speaker 1>Un there's no guests. Yeah, democracy is falling? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>just leap back off? Well, we have some good ones

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. We haven't completely abandoned guests, but just everybody relaxed, hear.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're both recovering.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, if you guys were listening to last week, I

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<v Speaker 1>unknowingly had COVID.

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<v Speaker 4>I was watching.

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<v Speaker 1>I was feeling bad the last episode that we recorded

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<v Speaker 1>and was like oh, and then went in the house

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<v Speaker 1>right after we recorded, took a test and was like

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<v Speaker 1>bye forever.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was in bed for a few days and

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<v Speaker 4>then I just got.

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<v Speaker 1>Better and I was been fine the last few days

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<v Speaker 1>and now I feel like shit again. And Liza's been

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<v Speaker 1>sick the last few days. Everyone I know is sick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like fucking I don't know what's happening. I woke

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<v Speaker 1>up Friday and wasn't feeling well, but I kept pushing

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<v Speaker 1>through because it's also like, well, you're party and you're

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<v Speaker 1>smoking weed.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying this, there's a radiator, the air is dry,

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<v Speaker 2>this and that. So I make excuses, I make excuses.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pushing I'm pushing through. I had dinner reservations.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to do them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at dinner and my friend looks at me and goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been degrading this whole night, and you need to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes, you are getting worse and worse. Your attitude

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<v Speaker 1>is a nightmare. You are so snappy, and you need

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<v Speaker 1>to go home. And I had to cancel eight shows

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. Oh my god, I could have bought

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<v Speaker 1>a Tiffany's you know necklace. Yeah, funny, Oh my god, Bush,

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<v Speaker 1>But say even about that, I just like, I'm off

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<v Speaker 1>this high of my special coming out. I'm like doing

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<v Speaker 1>all these pods.

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<v Speaker 4>I like, like I'm feeling good.

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<v Speaker 1>The external validation is popping on the internet. Yeah, to

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<v Speaker 1>then be like, you need to leave dinner immediately, Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>That just reminds me of the time you came and

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<v Speaker 1>did my show when it was at Barlu Bitch, and

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<v Speaker 1>you were just curled up in the corner and you're like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to go whenever.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, you need to get the fuck

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<v Speaker 4>out of here. You're dying. Well posto, that was a

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<v Speaker 4>pre previ that was pre COVID. Yeah, you don't. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't push through.

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<v Speaker 1>But I flicked someone off in the line in the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom at this restaurant.

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<v Speaker 4>I told Amanda fuck off, like I had, I had

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<v Speaker 4>to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it was it was sad, but I still

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<v Speaker 2>puffed the weed. It's I'll have this call for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>But a bunch of people from my party got sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucking Molly has bronchitis. There's influenza A. I mean, people

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<v Speaker 2>are sick.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I had. And then I got my period.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, imagine leading in calling at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>No kill me. That's terrible, that's funny, terrible, just coming

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<v Speaker 1>out from everywhere. Listen, I just had the flu a

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<v Speaker 1>month ago. I had the flu and then COVID and

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<v Speaker 1>now I have some kind of weird cold, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sick of as shit. But anyway, but it's a good lesson,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know me, like I I'm never actually disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>because life is good. But I build everything up in

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<v Speaker 1>my head. My expectations are always sky high, so like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>my special will come out and Hollywood will grab me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, oh, I'm still in my

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<v Speaker 1>Tailor Swift sweatshirt, like I still don't want to wash

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<v Speaker 1>my hair. I am the same person and nothing is

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<v Speaker 1>truly changed, which is fine because life is I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the disasters.

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<v Speaker 4>But it is just so funny how I can never change.

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<v Speaker 1>My like yeah, oh my god. And I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's like the same, but with more comments,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It's like just more comments.

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<v Speaker 1>But life is pretty chill.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>My father ask for physical copies of the special. I go,

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<v Speaker 1>and where are you gonna watch him? Where are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna watch that on? Now? Did he mean DVD? Did

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<v Speaker 1>he mean a VHS? What was he referring to?

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna send They're gonna send him a DVD and

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<v Speaker 2>a drive.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also told him I go, I go, dad,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because for analytics, whatever they send you. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you know, watch it as many times as

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<v Speaker 1>you can. I'm you're obsessed with me? What else you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do?

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<v Speaker 4>Put it on?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm telling my parents, not all of you live

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<v Speaker 2>your lives, you know, don't ignore your children. But I

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<v Speaker 2>and then my dad goes, yeah, but they're gonna tell

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<v Speaker 2>us from the same house, so I'm sure you know.

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<v Speaker 2>They say that's not gonna count. Who said that to you?

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<v Speaker 1>That's how like the Nielsen ratings maybe work. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's how fucking streams were. No, they want you

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<v Speaker 1>to watch it a lot of time. That's the whole point.

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<v Speaker 1>Like can they trap you? The tech wants to trap you?

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, dad, who are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Who told you?

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<v Speaker 1>Who?

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<v Speaker 4>How are you the expert on the thing that you

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<v Speaker 4>don't even know how to work? Right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it?

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<v Speaker 4>They also didn't call me. I'm waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>I call my dad the next day because I knew

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<v Speaker 1>they stayed up to watch it. I go, hey, did

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<v Speaker 1>you guys see any good? And my dad goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we say it's early. I have to go feed the

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<v Speaker 1>street cat and then hangs up on me. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>hear from them again. The next day, I wake up,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hear from them. I call them in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom goes, I'm sorry, I had a pedicure. I

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<v Speaker 1>go a forty eight hour pedicure. What the fuck are

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<v Speaker 1>you going?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what the like.

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<v Speaker 1>You? Why am I making just like And then my

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<v Speaker 1>sister's being like, well, what you know, very like mushrooms

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<v Speaker 1>therapy of like, well, why do you even really need

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to mom that bad?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, for for compliments, validation my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>She's trying to make me feel like shit that I

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<v Speaker 1>want attention from my parents at the biggest week of

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<v Speaker 1>my life.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's so.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I screamed at them and they're like, sorry, we

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<v Speaker 1>thought you'd be busy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, no, I did too. I did. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>that is so funny. No, but it has been.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been. It's been nice. I mean hearing nice things.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually the internet's not nice. It's so knock on wood.

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<v Speaker 1>It can turn at any moment, but so far, everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>just been so kind. And I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you put something out to relate to people, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when people relate to it or into.

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<v Speaker 4>It, it feels good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister's like, why do you need external validation? I'm like, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like dancing on a stage. What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Look at my entire career, like this is what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but my friend Alex from London was in town.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see her because I was sick in bed

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<v Speaker 1>for me, No, so I saw her for Oh and

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<v Speaker 1>at my party I made so many blacked out, drunk

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<v Speaker 1>plans that I had dinner plans with her. And I

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<v Speaker 1>get a text going, hey, I got the tickets for

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<v Speaker 1>Death Becomes Her. Where should we meet?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, I was blacked out. I go, yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be there in a few hours. Oh so you wait,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about it because I think I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go at the.

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<v Speaker 4>End of the month.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, it is awesome as a lover of the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>like any of the things they had to switch for

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<v Speaker 1>the stage, fine, Like it's awesome. It's so fun and

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen a musical that has to do special effects,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with like the neck and the fight and

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<v Speaker 1>the stairs, so like the way they do the effects

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<v Speaker 1>is cool, and the set.

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<v Speaker 4>Makes everything look so grand.

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<v Speaker 1>The singing is good, the costumes, the acting, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny and it's sexy. Okay, I'm gonna get tickets. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get tickets.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I have like one thing that wasn't my fay one

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<v Speaker 1>out of the out of two full acts, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>one little thing that I'm like, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>but I I'm not gonna say. And the best merch ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought two pin sets, a magnet and a compact.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I loved it. The pin set is like the

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<v Speaker 4>sem Forraviva Live Forever. Yeah, like the gold little s Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the potion and it says death becomes they're

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<v Speaker 1>all in one, like it's three pins.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I love that. That's like really cool. That's so great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it really was. Uh oh the Radiator, so you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know the people from La that like that came so

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<v Speaker 1>that afterwards I'm like, oh, come to my apartment. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>like smoke some weed and hang out. And we're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>and after a while I go, oh, that's my radiator. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>and they go, yeah, no, it's been concerning, but you

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<v Speaker 1>were acting like nothing was happening.

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<v Speaker 4>So we just went along with it. No one's climbing

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<v Speaker 4>in here. It is loud. I think we should leave

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<v Speaker 4>it just for this special episode.

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<v Speaker 1>The sword Fights everybody if you've been familiar, uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just New York heating. And then I had

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<v Speaker 1>Shang Wang texted yes stream being like hey, I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>town to do gigs. Like you want to hang, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on over, and he was like this is insane.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you live with this?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm like, unless it's the morning, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really notice that as much anymore. Wait, I love that

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<v Speaker 1>you and Shanghong out like just haging, that's so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well you know what's funny about him? So

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<v Speaker 1>we had a daytime hang where he just came over.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually the housewives were on, and like they were on,

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<v Speaker 1>I put them on.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was Berkshire's like Derinda but like the you're

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<v Speaker 1>a whore, you fuck everyone's I made it nice and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, so's this kind of like a show about like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, clinical diagnoses.

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<v Speaker 4>Are they all just And I got that's what they

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<v Speaker 4>look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was giving them the history of like

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<v Speaker 1>women and family and how it were blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kept going and then we were watching and

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<v Speaker 1>after an hour and a half he was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is really making me feel bad and we put this.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, this is stressful, but it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right.

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<v Speaker 2>We had like a chill thing. And then I met

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<v Speaker 2>up with him late at night at the cellar post drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I saw daytime and nighttime of a person, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was really funny and they were very different.

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<v Speaker 4>But I watched David Tell last night. It was like

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<v Speaker 4>watching Michael Jordan, where you know it's going to be good.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had smoked a ton of blunts and like

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<v Speaker 1>we were ready for it, but I had not left.

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<v Speaker 1>I I can't believe it, and so good to be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we have He goes, Oh god, the congestion prices.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, I love it. I love it for my business.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's been amazing, you know, sex trafficking. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really zipping and zipping through those bridges. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're so funny. You're so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh he's a legend. Yeah wait, I just keep babbling.

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<v Speaker 1>But thank you everyone that was watching and sending posts

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<v Speaker 1>and like tagging me. It feels really nice, So I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it is me trying to rip off David

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<v Speaker 1>Tel's roadwork. In a more fashion. So we need a

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<v Speaker 1>female Dava Tel that's fat. He's like, I haven't. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't watched it yet. It's I must say. And

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<v Speaker 1>in my head I'm like, yeah, I hope you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be like this bitch is trying to rip

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<v Speaker 1>me off? No, I mean, how many women are doing

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<v Speaker 1>just Sarah Silverman, how many?

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<v Speaker 4>Like there's so many.

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<v Speaker 1>People ripping everybody off. You can take a davat tell

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<v Speaker 1>another one.

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<v Speaker 4>So homophobic.

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<v Speaker 2>But like someone wrote to Jared Goldstein on his podcast

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<v Speaker 2>being like, this is just Caleb Harron's podcast, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stop it, blah blah blah, and it's like and then

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<v Speaker 2>Jared Goldstein wrote, Oh, I'm actually copying Stavros' podcast where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like.

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<v Speaker 4>Shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>Like podcasts are like two people talking on a thing

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<v Speaker 1>is just like what we're all doing. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what to tell you. I mean ours

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<v Speaker 4>is more intense than.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's a wild that's a like any gay

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<v Speaker 1>man talking to friends is Caleb now.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, death becomes from is great. I definitely have

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<v Speaker 2>to uh okay around you gotta go see it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>and we love the movie, so it's like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So we talked about Amelia Perez last week and

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<v Speaker 1>a listener did give us a little bit of context

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<v Speaker 1>about why people hate on it so much, because like

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<v Speaker 1>the director is not Mexican, but he made like a

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican movie where he's like seeing a lot, making a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you know whatever. And I totally like that

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<v Speaker 1>is context I did not have before I watched it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hate to say something. Everybody I did enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>Amelia Perez. Oh my god, I might be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the only Jared and I watched it. We were like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of good. Like, I mean, listen, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a good musical. Like the musical. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be singing the songs. And that clip that's going around

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<v Speaker 1>the internet of penis to vagina, of vagina to penis

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever is awful.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the most awful clip and that is the

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<v Speaker 4>only clip that's going around. So that is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>But how do you be defying gravity? How does the

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<v Speaker 1>nurst part of the movie you know be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it's apples and oranges. Like they're not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be define gravity at all. No, they won the

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Globe for song. This is what I'm saying out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's crazy, That's what I'm saying. It beating Wicked

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<v Speaker 1>for the song. That's crazy. What that's all I'm mad about.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I just thought everybody, like everybody's like, why is

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<v Speaker 1>it getting all these nominations for everything? And I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not trying to be Wicked. The music's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're telling me they won the Golden Globe.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy, defying gravity, loss to penis to Vagina Like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what I'm saying. The acting is really good,

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually like was I was intrigued by the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I do realize that it's problematic in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the star of the show, the star of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie literally has had some really bad tweets resurface.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not trying, but I'm just trying to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's wrong with my brain. Like Katya

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<v Speaker 1>would not stop talking about how much she hated and

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<v Speaker 1>she could even get through it, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a movie I've never seen before.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it was truly like say what you will about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You've never seen anything really like it, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was wild and I kind of was into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I was, I don't know. Everybody was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what you have, Caarra, You have COVID to blame

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<v Speaker 1>that for. You can always say I had COVID when

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<v Speaker 1>I watched I loved it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so there's that.

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<v Speaker 1>But wait, speaking of award shows, let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>Grammys for a second.

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<v Speaker 4>What were your big takeaways.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that we need to do a fucking extraction

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<v Speaker 1>mission on Kanye's wife, Like I'm I feel sad for

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<v Speaker 1>this woman, Like I can't.

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<v Speaker 4>I talked about that's on another pod, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I just we just have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Have hope that it's a performance piece since she's ivyly educated.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just wish she would do one interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you do one interview where you say that everything's okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And then like, I know, but my thing is like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're using this guy for like I, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>we know he's an abusive man.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like, yeah, I don't know why we're but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I honest, But the thing that's crazy, is I

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<v Speaker 2>I did think the stalking looked good, like it was

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<v Speaker 2>the best sheer stocking that's ever existed. And I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to someone else that was like on a hangar it

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<v Speaker 2>looked really cool too, and it's like, it is cool,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just not the play.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, we need the lip reading girl.

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<v Speaker 2>To because they had conversation it seemed like her going

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't want to do this and him being like,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do it. But then someone's like, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>she has a humiliation kink, like maybe this is what

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<v Speaker 2>she seems to like. We don't really know, but with

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<v Speaker 2>everything we know about him and what's come to light

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<v Speaker 2>about so many other musicians in this industry, I just don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Know how we like sit back and chill out. But

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<v Speaker 4>like that's I guess, just.

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<v Speaker 1>Life right now, Like these horrible things are happening and

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<v Speaker 1>your we're like sitting and I mean it's the Long five.

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<v Speaker 4>It's yeah. Oh but I did see don't look up.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best movie ever and it makes me understand

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening now. I'm like, how did Adam McKay in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one predict right now, like it is happening

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<v Speaker 2>right now. He's the richest guy is going and doing

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<v Speaker 2>what he wants and that happened in this movie, and

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<v Speaker 2>like why don't we take those movies more seriously?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I don't know, Like I loved I liked

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<v Speaker 1>that movie a lot when I saw it, and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like everyone says idiocracy is happening, Like we're chiocracy

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<v Speaker 1>was just dumb, not as hateful, Like it was dumb. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were just like inbred and masturbating, not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to take like they were too dumb for school.

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<v Speaker 4>Not we want to take away school so we have

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<v Speaker 4>child labor and like no more.

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<v Speaker 1>Osha, you know, Like that's what's It's like, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>going back to nineteen fourteen, and you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really built for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, none of us are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm nervous about these teens that Elon Musk has running around.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys that are doing all this shit are nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty. How are they getting into these buildings? How

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<v Speaker 1>are they getting passwords to the computers? Like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand any of the logistics. We know that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>all are like all of all of the people that

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this podcast are have amazing careers, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure some of you work in the We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>can tell us how a bunch of teens are allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to just go in and like show a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk in a tesla and walk in and get

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<v Speaker 1>classified information. Also, instead of ranting into the ether, if

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<v Speaker 1>you are someone that is working in an industry that

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<v Speaker 1>is being impacted right now, right like if you are

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<v Speaker 1>an immigration law if you are at a school that's

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<v Speaker 1>about to lose your fun, it's like, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>just being impacted right now in a big way, reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to us so then we can like do something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's about the community. It's about small actions,

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<v Speaker 1>about doing what we can. You guys have always been

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<v Speaker 1>amazing with the Amazon wishless for teachers or anytime we

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<v Speaker 1>post about organization or you know what would sister peg

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<v Speaker 1>Do's so like, I mean not to bring it back

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<v Speaker 1>to soul cycle, but my teacher, one of the teachers,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, feel grateful that you feel safe

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<v Speaker 1>in this space, and think about all the people that

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<v Speaker 1>do not have a space like this to feel safe.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's like thinking about that and like any

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<v Speaker 2>direct impact that we can help. If your boots on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground being impacted right now, let us know, because

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<v Speaker 2>we all will be. I mean, there's a New York

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<v Speaker 2>doctor being fucking sued for giving an abortion pill to

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<v Speaker 2>someone in Louisiana. And why you canceled the appointments of

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<v Speaker 2>two kids getting a gender It's back here, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's back. They they said they the Attorney General for

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<v Speaker 1>New York said fuck that. But yeah, like there are

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like praying that the checks and balances we

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<v Speaker 1>have in place are going to be enough to hold

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<v Speaker 1>us up there. I don't think they are next four years.

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<v Speaker 1>But we can't all we can't go down with Grammy's. Grammy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Grammy, It's Grammy, It's Grammy's. I didn't watch it

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<v Speaker 1>all the way through.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just been watching the performances online and like the outfits,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just keeping up how I can. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why it's not on my Paramount Plus or Hulu

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<v Speaker 2>or anything yet, like give it to me, but I

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<v Speaker 2>loved it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's for the girls. Men should not be invited to

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<v Speaker 4>award shows.

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<v Speaker 1>They should not be included at all, Like the girlies

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<v Speaker 1>are everything and we yeah proved it. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>loved ev I liked I liked that it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>they all were happy to see each other and chatting,

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, I feel stuffy.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't stuffy. It was exciting. People were fans of

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<v Speaker 2>the music this year and that was really exciting. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much good music.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like we talked about this on Hysteria or

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<v Speaker 1>something about how like may like in sort of bad

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<v Speaker 1>political climates, there's always like a lot of good art.

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<v Speaker 1>And like the music right now is just like awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's so much good music that's like one silver lining.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like there's just I mean, I can't believe how

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<v Speaker 1>much Kendrick won for a dis track. That is fucking awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and this is huge for haters. Yeah, huge

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<v Speaker 1>for haters.

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<v Speaker 4>I am sad for Billy. I'm not even sad for Taylor.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Taylor knew she was gonna go home empty handed,

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<v Speaker 2>but Billy I wish she had one. But like I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to someone, there's to take because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Sabrina could have only won one, but she could

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<v Speaker 2>that's her songs were fucking hit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Billy, but Billy's album was really good and that sucks.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know. She's like twenty. She gonna give

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<v Speaker 4>us so much more.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be watching her win Grammys till we're dead,

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<v Speaker 1>No for sure, And she has so many oscars. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor looked so sexy. I loved her getting drunk in

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<v Speaker 1>fun like I love her vibe. But if I was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the cooler girls, I would fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people are annoyed with her, Like I know

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<v Speaker 2>people are like, oh great, she won't sit the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>down like I wanna be. I want to hear Miley

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<v Speaker 2>talk shit about Taylor, Like that's what I want.

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<v Speaker 4>Your dream.

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<v Speaker 1>Your dream is like you Miley a joint and some

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<v Speaker 1>shit talk. Yeah, but I doci. I mean love How

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<v Speaker 1>cool is it to win an award and then be

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<v Speaker 1>able to perform with no stress, nothing to prove bitch

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<v Speaker 1>I won, Like I just feel that energy. But the choreo, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if she'd I that's that is creative every genie.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean she level.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was watching some video I saw some not

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<v Speaker 1>even videos, like a meme that was like just stills

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<v Speaker 1>of her making a video five years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, well, I just lost my job.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm just gonna like go around tomorrow to

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<v Speaker 1>record companies and see if, like they'll give me an internship.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was just the next slide. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>her winning her Grammy and it was five years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so cool, like Sabrine, everyone leave. Everyone was just

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<v Speaker 2>so them and no one could do it. They like

0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:32.359
<v Speaker 2>Sabrina Carpenter's performance, so her, so old timey Marilyn Monroe.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you have Charlie XCX just like yeah, yeah, dirty dirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone was just so perfect and yourselves like it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was awesome. And then you know that man, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>flipping in the air. Yeah, well somebody you'll love this

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know if you saw this, but I

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<v Speaker 1>saw some meme that was a picture of that guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it goes every generation has its imagined dragons, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know your sister loves imagine dragons. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what that it like, just the flipping

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<v Speaker 1>because well no, because the song is very it's like

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<v Speaker 1>he sings that. It's like on TikTok about beautiful, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's like it sounds like an imagine dragons sound,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but the flipping. I don't think the dragons flip,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, like the spiritual of it all. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like rocky pop rock pop with a just a little

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<v Speaker 1>dash of Christianity.

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<v Speaker 4>But a little bit of church. But yeah, wow, it

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<v Speaker 4>was great. It was good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I again, I watched Album of the Year live,

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<v Speaker 1>like I watched that get announced because that was like

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<v Speaker 1>by the time I got my kids to bed, everything else,

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<v Speaker 1>I took it. I love all the memes of people

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<v Speaker 1>being like Blue Ivy runs that family, like Blue Ivy

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<v Speaker 1>being like mom, or get up there, get up to

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<v Speaker 1>the ward, go like get it together.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like they're sweet. She seems sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what the twins are up to, Like is

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<v Speaker 1>Blue the clear favorite or they just want to be private?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm so curious of dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe it's like to a certain age

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<v Speaker 1>because the twins are young because we knew Blue the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we knew Blue the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I also love the memes because everyone hates on

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor so much and like I get it in this

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<v Speaker 1>but I love all of the videos now of like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone listening to not like us, and everyone's calm, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like Taylor listening and it's like she was

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<v Speaker 1>going nuts dancing doing like what the stinky leg or something.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like all of these black creators are like

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<v Speaker 1>dancing as Taylor, being like, why did anyone tell us

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<v Speaker 1>she was fun?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait? Hold on way, way way, and so like.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited that a community that like didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>fuck with her, like, oh wait, we like this drunk

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 1>bit who's dancing and like into Kendrick and holding a

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<v Speaker 1>bottle and all of their recreations of her.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they all dance better than her in their

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<v Speaker 4>in their memes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love the love she's getting online because she's

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<v Speaker 1>usually just getting I mean, obviously she's beloved.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, but she gets probably almost equal hate. I'm sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>So I just love that. Oh my god, we didn't

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<v Speaker 4>even talk about Gaga. Like the new song is good.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't heard it. Ak, it's fucking good. It is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I texted you this. We have to stop

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 1>because we'll just keep going. But I text you this.

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>But COVID. One of the silver linings of COVID was

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<v Speaker 1>I got fully into the fucking Traders and oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you told me forever. My friend's other friends told me forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I never like shows like Survivor because I don't want

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>to watch people like fighting for food and like naked

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 1>on a beach like, but this is like Survivor indoors,

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<v Speaker 1>like in a nice castle, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's what I like.

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<v Speaker 1>I like all the intrigue. I like all the can

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<v Speaker 1>I talk to you for a second, Hey, can I

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<v Speaker 1>just can I grab you? Like they're all just like

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<v Speaker 1>going into rooms and gossiping.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you kidding? It seems like the best and I

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<v Speaker 4>have been loving it.

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<v Speaker 1>So if this is your sign that if people have

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<v Speaker 1>been telling you to get into Traders, I was holding

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<v Speaker 1>out just honestly, not based on anything, based on time.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh my god, I'm now I'm like appointment on

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Thursdays watching it. Yeah I'm one episode behind at the moment,

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, fuck yah. Yeah it's a good show.

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<v Speaker 4>And the outfits, the girls that the Barbie the Bambies

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 4>are bringing it. Yeah, the Bambies.

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<v Speaker 1>I love when Bob not Bob the drag queen, Bob

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Harper was like, I want to be a Bambie. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. One time I was working out next to

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<v Speaker 1>him at my old gym in West Hollywood, like in

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<v Speaker 1>a really hard class, and I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not I was like, this is crazy. Why am I

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<v Speaker 1>working out next to the biggest loser guy? Like I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be here. By the way, I'm sick, but I

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<v Speaker 1>also worked out the last two days because I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get back into it. I can't walk. So not

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<v Speaker 1>only am I sick, I can barely walk. My muscles

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<v Speaker 1>are dying.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think mid COVID is the time to pick

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<v Speaker 4>up a routine.

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<v Speaker 1>I was done with my COVID.

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<v Speaker 4>The pink line was gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I did pilates one day and then I did boxing

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<v Speaker 1>the next day and it was so fun. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I can't walk. That sounds fun. Now it's it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm like scared to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I really felt so sick, but like I I'm

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<v Speaker 2>actually doing two classes on Saturday. What because my teacher

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<v Speaker 2>is covering the next class, So she's doing TTPD to

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<v Speaker 2>reputation from one to one forty five and then at

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<v Speaker 2>two to two forty five, she's doing nineteen eighty nine

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<v Speaker 2>to debut.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, So I'm gonna do doubled. I'm gonna just do

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<v Speaker 4>it whatever. Who cares? How else am I going to

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<v Speaker 4>get the attention of the teacher I love? Are you

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 4>gonna do too?

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<v Speaker 1>Go for it? While I'm snotting everywhere full snoting by Saturday.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I also would like to say my friend Jared Goldstein,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to him online.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking shit about some one and he goes, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a nerd. I go, excuse me. He goes, why don't

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 2>you go look at your fireplace? You don't think you're

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking nerd? And then I realized, I'm a nerd?

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<v Speaker 2>Why what's in your fireplace?

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<v Speaker 4>My toys? I have a pretzel clits like my trolls,

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.479
<v Speaker 4>my Simpsons nerd for toys. You're a yeah, you are

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 4>kind of like a merch toy nerd.

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I'm like talking about these weird TV shows from

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>seventeen years ago in depth analysis of the house, and

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I like it was just this slap in the face

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 1>that I needed where I'm like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Why do you take a look at your fireplace?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe about fucking good Nerd. I'm so devastated.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm well, it's fine. That was my big

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>thing I had written. Also, February twenty third, Karen and

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<v Speaker 1>I are doing That's Messed Up Live in Washington, d C. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well the planes stay in the sky. We'll see, let's hope,

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>so we'll see.

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 4>Tickets are going.

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<v Speaker 1>The tickets are going pretty fast, but we still have

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 1>some left. So guys, get out there and get some ticks.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go to That's Messed Up Live dot com,

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 1>so you don't don't just google That's Messed Up in

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>DC because you'll get a fucking like link that's trying.

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 4>To scam you.

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, go to That's messed Up Live dot com. We

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.719
<v Speaker 1>have the true link. And then Lisa will be there

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the weekend before. By the way, go see Lisa do

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>stand up that Saturday, that Friday, Saturday, and then come

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:27.719
<v Speaker 1>see us do the pot on Sunday. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend in Portland for V Day week. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have some good outfits planned. My got

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>my sight in my lover's sweater.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my first road date in months, Like I truly

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 2>it feels weird. It feels weird to take breaks, like

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 2>most of my career have just like never taken time off.

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>This year was the longest I've been off the road

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 2>in chunks of my whole life, my whole career, even

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>when I start like cause I took two months off

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<v Speaker 2>the road in the summer and then like two months

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<v Speaker 2>off now, and like I don't think I've ever done that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's good, right, Well, my business manager has

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>given me a call for sure. He goes, are you

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna work anytime soon? Because I'm getting blowouts?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>But uh, hell us, Oh my god, all right, I'm

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 4>killing time at Del Frisco's. I mean it's out a control.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we have a aalise today and they've already they

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>gave us a ten what feels like forty five minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 1>So we should get started on the episode. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>go to I also wanted to say, not to keep

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>plugging stuff. But the move Goodrich is on Max. Oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Jared saw it. Jared saw he said he saw you.

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<v Speaker 1>How did he feel? I mean, Michael Keaton is such

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>a good actor. He liked it, but I don't think

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>he saw all of it. He just saw he saw

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>your part though. He's like, I started watching Good Rich

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I got to lease his part.

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<v Speaker 4>But he was the scene of.

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Michael Keaton in that elevator and he starts tearing it

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, wow, Yeah, a man of our

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<v Speaker 1>kind of times.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what else did I watch? Research? Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>was I gonna?

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to talk about escape at Xana Moor again.

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<v Speaker 1>Get me get out, cut me out. We gotta stop.

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>But go to That's Messed Up live dot com also

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and scroll down and you can go to Lisa's thing

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>to see all her future roaddates because she's got a

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff going on. And I'm gonna update my

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>website today. My manager I was like, I it's like

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>photos from twenty nineteen. There's no road dates on it,

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<v Speaker 1>the specials not on it. It's my well, I am

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<v Speaker 1>my manager's email. Yeah, but I should get the link

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<v Speaker 1>tree on the website for God's sake.

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<v Speaker 4>What that look is going on? But it is hard

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<v Speaker 4>to focus on stuff when you wanna Yeah, all right

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<v Speaker 4>with that? And Ray review five star.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And also guys, go to Apple and rate and

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<v Speaker 1>review us. Please it's important right now. No, but let's

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>get started on the episode. We've got a good one

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<v Speaker 1>for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>We are today doing Solving for Unknowns, Season twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>episode nineteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode dropped like right at the beginning of the pandemic,

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>but is one of these was from the final the

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>season they shot right before, so everything's still normal. There's

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>nobody kind of taking a mask on and off whenever

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>they feel like it, or judges with plastic in front

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>of them. So Benson and Rollins are just having a

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>girl's day at the shooting range, and Benson's like, let's

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>pop off another round and go get drunk, baby, which

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a lot of fun. But Rollins is like,

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>my babysitter, and I'm like, what's another twenty dollars? Come

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>on twenty five? I don't know what you're paying. Benson says,

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>there are some squad room changes. I want to run

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>by you, and Rolin's like, what's up? Is Kat fucking up?

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>And then Benson's like, well, you need to report to

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>one PP on Friday. And you can tell Rollins has

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of like always been a little bit of a

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>fuck up because she immediately is like what did I do? Like,

0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>am I losing my job over my gambling? My insane

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>sure that I've covered for my flirting with serial killers?

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Like what did I do? And Benson's like, I'm just

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 4>messing with you.

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Girl. You're getting promoted to detective's second grade. And Rollins

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>is like, oh my god, I didn't even think for

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>a second it could be a good thing. Like she's like,

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:19.239
<v Speaker 1>she's like, after the year I've had and twenty one,

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>season twenty one is actually a very busy season for her.

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Like when you go through the Hulu, like a lot

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>of the episodes are like Rollins does this, Rowins does that.

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>But what I'm assuming she's referring to specifically is how

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>she got kidnapped by that other cop whose daughter was

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>being trafficked.

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 4>And she had to like talk him off the ledge

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.719
<v Speaker 4>that he wouldn't kill her.

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Did that episode, Yeah, yeah, Boo Bouchie the guy's like

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>name is Bouchie or something, so live in Rollin's hug.

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>And then Rollins is like, bottom's up or drinking. So

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>a Uni gets into the car. Now we're at a

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>different scene. It's at night. A Uni gets into a

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>car as partner he hands his partner coffee and she's like,

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 1>did you bring me anything? And he's like, oh my bad,

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, you guys are no Benson and Stabler

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>in terms of chemistry. We cut to a woman driving

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>down a street in New York in a massive delivery

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>truck with a cupcake on top.

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 4>Okay, it is very wild the visual.

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, she's swerving all over the road, she looks traumatized, like,

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, this doesn't look like a drunk person

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>to me. And then finally she runs into the cop

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>car like she's swerving all over the place. People are

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:29.959
<v Speaker 1>running out of the way of her car, and then

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>bam into the cop car where these two cops are

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>drinking their coffee and talking about sweet treets. And it

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>is funny also that it's a cupcake, because she was like,

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>did you bring me something sweet?

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 4>And then bam they get slammed by a cupcake truck.

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>It's very classic SVU imagery, I feel, and I do

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's funny that they had to like either find

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>a cupcake truck or make one for the show just

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>so this scene could happen. And like, the cupcake truck

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>is very prominent in the entire episode. So this girl

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>stumbles out of thecake truck. She looks dazed. Her name

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>is Jill, it's written on the truck. It's called like

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Jill's Cupcakes or something. She has no idea what's going on.

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>They think she's drunk, but obviously this is SVU. It

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>seems like more than that. She loses her footing but

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>isn't really passing out, and the cops coffer. They're at

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the precinct and they're asking her to blow into a breathalyzer,

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.919
<v Speaker 1>but she's sucking in. They're taking her fingerprints and she's

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 1>wincing in pain, like there's something going on with this person,

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. Like now she's in a very very like

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>rough and tumble holding cell with a ton of other women,

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and she has.

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 4>No idea why she's even there. She's like, where am I?

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 1>What am I doing here? So this is not just

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 1>like a woman who got wasted and decided to take

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>her cupcake truck on a joy ride. So now we're

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.879
<v Speaker 1>at arraignment and Caresee is remanding some freak and Finn

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>is there to make sure that the guy goes down.

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Jill is sitting there, completely out of it. And when

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>they ask her to plead, she goes plead and her

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>lawyer just goes, not guilty, and then you know, Carisee's

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>obviously clocking that this woman's acting a little bit weird.

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Suddenly Jill can speak and she remembers some things, and

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.240
<v Speaker 1>she goes, I was raped last night and the cops

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>arrested me. So obviously, Cariese's like, well, that's not gonna

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>fly with me. He's gonna get her over to SVU obviously,

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and we are at the credits. So now we're at

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the squad room and Creasy is giving live the rundown.

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Her name is Jill Baker. She's thirty five, fun Jill Baker,

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and she's a baker. I just said that wrong. Her

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.800
<v Speaker 1>name is Jill Bailey. Her name is Jill Bailey, and

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>she's a couple Like, that's you. That's more silly than

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 1>usually goes, but I was into it.

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like.

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Her name is Jill Marketing executive and she like, no, sorry,

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Jill big Bailey is thirty five.

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, you won't believe.

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 2>And I was doing some crowd work at the cellar

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 2>and this dude was a defense contractor for foreign weapons

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:50.240
<v Speaker 2>and his partner who was with him was a social

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 2>worker for cancer patients. Oh my god, Oh my god,

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 2>did you have fun with that?

0:35:58.680 --> 0:35:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 4>Thank you? Yeah at that time.

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. I mean, it's like you just know

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>how to pick them, you really do. You never get

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>a boring one. So this girl, Jill, her blood alcohol

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>is point zh nine, which is barely over the limit,

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>but the arresting officer said she was wasted. So now

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>she's in wood room lines talking to Katamine and Rollins,

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, I was at a bar downtown. I

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>was on a date with a guy named Luke. I

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 1>met him on Trueheart, another addition to the SVU website

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. That's like their version of match, or

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>their version of actually no Tinder. And they ordered Howlers.

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 1>She said she had two. They must have been strong.

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I felt not like myself. I still feel

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>not like myself. She's like, then my memory drops out

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:54.879
<v Speaker 1>and it picks back up with me trying to drive

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 1>my truck.

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:57.800
<v Speaker 4>So here's what I don't understand.

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:00.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you're a cupcake baker in Manhattan, and like,

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>why are you driving your truck to a date. I

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 1>don't understand, like you must be you must be parking

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>your truck somewhere, Like you can't be using a massive

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>truck that's impossible to park with a cupcake on top,

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>to go hang out at bars like that.

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 4>It's just so crazy.

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not victim blaming something happened, but i

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 1>am like, kind of the logistics of how you parked

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>your truck are crazy to me. Anyway, she felt like

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>her body wasn't listening to her brain. She felt drugged.

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>So then in court, maybe because the guy in front

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>of her that Finn was there to make sure went down,

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe because he was there for a sexual assault charge.

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 4>In court, she said it.

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Hit her that Luke had raped her, Like her clothes

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 1>felt wrong, she was sore.

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 4>She's like, I just knew I'd been raped.

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 1>And so she goes to show them the messages that

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 1>they had exchanged on True Heart and they're gone, but

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>she says he messaged her something like, oh I had

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>a fun time, did you get home okay?

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 4>And that she wrote what did you do to me?

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 1>And then he obviously matched her and Kat goes, oh,

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>so he ghosted you, And I'm like, Cat, that's not

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>really ghosting if he's covering his tracks for a sexual assault.

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Like I know that's like kind of a it's kind

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>of like a sort of elementary way to put it.

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>But like so Rollins is like, well, we can contact

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the app, but like we need you to get to

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>the hospital right now so we can like do a

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.399
<v Speaker 1>talk screen find out if you were drugged. And Cat's like, yeah,

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>they're going to test you for over three hundred drugs.

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 1>So now they're at the bar from the date, the

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Howler bar, okay, and Rollins and Finn are chatting. They're like,

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Cat's not getting anywhere with the dating app, and then

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 1>they see it, which is honestly should be part of this,

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:41.320
<v Speaker 1>like why the dating app like does not help and

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:43.479
<v Speaker 1>like later you find out more information about the dating

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>app like not being responsible. But they see a sign

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 1>for the Howlers and that they ask the bartender like, oh,

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>what's in these? And he says white rum palm, sugar

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>panned and leaves and coconut cream. So maybe it's like

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a Pina colada vibe. I can't

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 1>figure what this would taste like. I can't imagine what

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 1>this would taste like. But anyway, he remembers Jill, even

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 1>though it was so busy. Of course, he's the bar,

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>he's an s View bartender. Of course he remembers everybody's name,

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 1>what they ordered, and like how they paid. He remembers

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>exactly the guy. He goes, he paid with cash, because

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I remember he counted the money out loud as he

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>put it down. And they say, well, we're gonna need

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>your security footage, and he goes, well, they're not my cameras.

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm freelance. And then Finn's like, get a manager. Will wait, like,

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 1>don't fuck with Finn, you weird bartender. So at the precinct,

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>now the timeline's coming together. They've got crystal clear footage

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of Luke and Jill at the bar from eight to

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>eight fifty. They have two drinks, they're pounded them. That's

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>fifty minutes to order drink too, and then they're out

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of there. Like there's no sign on the video of

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>him spiking the drinks at all. They walk out. She

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem fucked up, she doesn't seem drugged. She's walking okay.

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.640
<v Speaker 1>At nine o'clock they catch them on street cams. They're walking,

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>she seems fine. An hour goes and then they have

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>him walking her to her truck again, her cupcake truck.

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm laughing at her cupcake truck being driven to the date.

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Let me walk you to your truck. So he walks

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 1>her out to the cupcake truck. They kiss gobye in

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>front of it, and then she's standing there but they're like,

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't seem responsive, like he kisses her and she

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>just stands there kind of like a zombie. And then

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the crash was ten minutes later, so he either drugged

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>her in the bar or during this lost hour and

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 1>lives like, well, we know what blocks they were on

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>in that hour, so let's go like someone saw them.

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:33.320
<v Speaker 4>So we cut to the canvas.

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>A doorman knows exactly who this guy is, says he

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 1>has an annoying dog, points them to a bodegas and

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>then where he goes. The bodega guy goes, I know

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>this guy. He buys two beers every night, pays with

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 1>cash and counts it out on the counter or whatever.

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>But they also have a break. Bodega guy goes, I

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 1>know where he lives. When it rains, he orders in

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and they're like two beers and he's like two beers

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 1>in a pizza to be fair. They're like, we bring

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>him a pizza, and I'm like, what bodega makes pizza.

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe it's a like a Stofer's French crust

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 1>or something that you do in the microwave, but I've

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>never had Podiga pizza.

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:06.760
<v Speaker 4>At his apartment.

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>We finally meet Luke Mitchell, and I don't think I

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>realized this the very first time I watched this episode,

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.800
<v Speaker 1>but he is played by Eddie K Thomas, who is

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>famously the guy who fucks Stiffler's mom an American Pie. Yeah, yeah,

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 1>he is shipbreak. He's you know, he works a lot.

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 1>He was in Harold and Kumar, a bunch of episodes

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 1>of Masol. He was a regular on till Death, ninety

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 1>plus episodes of a show called Scorpion. Like, this guy's

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>working all the time. He's a voice on American Dad.

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>He's done like one hundred and ninety episodes of American

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Dad or something like that. So Eddie K Thomas is working.

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:41.919
<v Speaker 1>So he's like, my place is kind of a mess,

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, we've seen worse. They kind of elbow

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:48.359
<v Speaker 1>their way in and he's like, oh yeah, Jill, did

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you know he drives she drives a cupcake truck, and

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 1>he's kind of laughing, and I'm like, I want to

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>be clear. I'm not laughing that she drives a cop

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 1>cupcake truck. I'm laughing that she took one to a

0:41:57.040 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>date in Manhattan, that's all. And he says after the bar,

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>they came back to his place and had sex, but

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:06.320
<v Speaker 1>it was consensual. And he's like, I always ask these days,

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>implying that like four years ago, he never asked. You know,

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 1>like four years ago, I just did whatever, But nowadays

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking. Okay, So we already are getting a weird

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Incelli vibe from him.

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 1>He mentions walking to her to the truck, and Finn says, yeah,

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 1>we know, we saw it. And Luke's like, oh, I

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>guess we're living in a police state. But I guess

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>it's good. You know.

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 4>It's like he makes cops.

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>You can tell what he would talk about with his friends,

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>about treating women and stuff. So they ask about the

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 1>app and about how he goes, yeah, actually, Jill wrote

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>me something weird and they're like, yeah, was it?

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 4>What did you do to me?

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, come on, guys. He keeps calling the

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 1>cops guys. He does this multiple times, like he's trying

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:51.240
<v Speaker 1>to like befriend the cops. And he's like, I support

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 1>all the me too stuff. I'm one of the nice guys.

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 1>And he says it in a way that implies he

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 1>is absolutely not one of the nice ones and does

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>not support that quote unk quote stuff. And then he

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 1>starts saying, you know, the pendulum swings way too far.

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>These women come up with ideas and they just blame

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 1>anybody for anything. It's like, you're not anybody. She didn't

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 1>point a finger at a random stranger. She's pointing a

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:13.840
<v Speaker 1>finger at someone she just went on a date with

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the night before, Like, this is absolutely not crazy. And

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>his dog is barking and he's like, look, I got

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to take my dog out for a walk, and fing

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 1>goes and then get your two beers and Luke's like,

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>no disrespect, but can I ask you guys to leave?

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 1>And then they leave and Kat goes seem like a

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 1>nice guy to you, and Finn goes for a rapist,

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 1>so they're onto this guy. Jill is now in Live's

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 1>office watching footage of the walk to the truck with

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 1>the good night kiss.

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 4>She doesn't remember any of it.

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 1>They tell her that he's saying the sex at his

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>apartment was consensual, and she's like, I was in his apartment,

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Like she's not even chucked about the sec that there

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>was intercourse.

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 4>She's like, I don't even remember being there. More bad news.

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>The top screen came back negative and they're like, you know,

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>so it's possible that it had cleared your system, or

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>that you were dosed for something outside of these three

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>hundred drugs that we test for. Finn's like, listen, people

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>design drugs that are not testable, Like the labs can't

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>keep up. She goes, you mean drugs that turn women

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.240
<v Speaker 1>into zombies, and Live goes, Yeah, a lot of times

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>victims can walk and talk, but they don't know where

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>they are or what's happening. And this is like an

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>episode we covered called Smut where a guy did this

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>where he was drugging women with scopolamine, which is honestly

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>an anti nausea medication, but in a certain dose can

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>have you you can like we talked about it and

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:35.879
<v Speaker 1>are thing like people can use it to take people

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to ATMs and they take out all the cash on

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 1>their account and give it to them like they act,

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>they can function, they can even speak a little bit,

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:45.320
<v Speaker 1>but they're basically walking zombies. So liv is like, we

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>believe you. Everything that you told us about the way

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you felt at that moment, and what happened is evidence.

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 1>And Jill's like, well what about a conviction and lives

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 1>like you leave that to us. So now Careesi shows

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>up at the Prince pre saying t runs into Jill

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.439
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, well, my life is terrible. Talk screen

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 1>came back negative and I have a DUI and my

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 1>truck is impounded. And Creasy's like, I'll get that dui

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>kicked down the road for you until we figure out

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 1>what's happening, like with your assault case. And so then

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>he goes into the squad room and he's like, give

0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 1>me the Luke Mitchell information, like he wants to help Jill.

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Luke Mitchell has no record, but this was well planned.

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>He has probably done this before. He's a risk analyst

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:24.919
<v Speaker 1>in midtown. Never married. Kat goes borin ass Facebook, which

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I love, like I love. She's just like that Facebook

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 1>is giving nothing, and Finn goes he's a loser, no wonder.

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>He needed an app to get a date, which is

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 1>shady because plenty of people are married to people they

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 1>meet on apps, and Rollins is like, not everyone can

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>be as magnetic as you. And then Kat defends the apps.

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>She goes, it's the fastest way to meet people. But

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:46.479
<v Speaker 1>I've gone out on a lot of dates where people

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 1>are nothing like they are in their profiles.

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 4>So Cat's out there getting catfished.

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Live wants a warrant for Luke's apartment, but Cariese's like, well,

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the talk screen is negative. I can't do it warrant

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>if I have nothing for them to actually search for

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that specific Then dundun Rollin gets a lead. She finds

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 1>a same mo in ycap. Four months ago, Rebecca Larson

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.479
<v Speaker 1>said she was drugged and raped by someone named Luke

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>from a True Heart app. It's like, dude, there's twelve apps.

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Get on a different app. Stop like you're trying to

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 1>get away with it. I'm not trying to tell people

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>how to get away with shiit. But Jesus Brooklyn SVU

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>caught the case. They closed it for insufficient evidence, but

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, Benson is ready to put it.

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Also is like the people in charge, they're not going

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 2>to do anything. I mean, that's a big problem, like

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I think you can probably do fucked up shit.

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 3>And now.

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of how if you write men are trash,

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:34.919
<v Speaker 2>she'll get in trouble. But you can write like die

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 2>you dumbhore.

0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it'll be fine.

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 2>It's like the people in charge of being on top

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 2>of it are also in cel tech doors.

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.399
<v Speaker 4>Yes, absolutely, yeah.

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>They're like, ugh, yeah, we're not going to take this

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:51.839
<v Speaker 1>guy off our platform because he's just out there trying

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>to get chicks. You know, he didn't do anything. It's

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>me too, gone amuck. Anyway, they're talking out to Rebecca

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:01.240
<v Speaker 1>and bless her. She lives in a beautiful, huge apartment

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:04.840
<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn. Okay, she says the Brooklyn s View detectives

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>stopped returning her calls after her talk screen turned up negative.

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:11.880
<v Speaker 1>This is how you know our squad is different, Okay,

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:14.360
<v Speaker 1>because that's probably more along the lines of what happens

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 1>in real life, Like your talks ring comes up negative,

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>they're like, okay, fake or bye. So they tell her

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>she might have been drugged with something like they told

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Jill that doesn't have that there's no test for. And

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Rebecca's like, but I was careful, like I ordered beer

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>in a bottle. How could that happen? Which is a

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:36.200
<v Speaker 1>good that's point, yeah, yeah, And she had one beer.

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:39.399
<v Speaker 1>They asked her about the date and she goes, well,

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:42.799
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't hot, but he seemed fine. What to read? Wow,

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Like you seemed okay but not hot. They went to

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:48.919
<v Speaker 1>a place called Pinky six. She only had one beer,

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 1>got woozy. Then big gap in her memory and only

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:55.719
<v Speaker 1>tiny flashes. And in the tiny flashes, she's like, I'm awake,

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 1>but I can't open my eyes. I feel limp, I

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 1>can't move. I knew I was on my bed naked,

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I knew someone was on top of me. My whole

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.359
<v Speaker 1>body's shaking. And then my eyes pop open, and then

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>she go, they go, do you remember what you saw?

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 1>And then it's a hard cut to a lineup with

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Rebecca trying to pick the guy out of a lineup

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's all mid white guys in weezer glasses, like

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it's so many of the same white hipster guy like

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 1>or wanna be hipster guy? You know, Like she identifies Luke,

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>she thinks, but she's like, can you ask him to

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 1>come closer and put his chin up? Meanwhile, of course,

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.320
<v Speaker 1>at the exact time this is going on, Jill is

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>at the precinct to fill out forms, like, yeah, whoever

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:39.760
<v Speaker 1>is in charge of the schedule at SV he really needs.

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 4>A talking to.

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:43.440
<v Speaker 1>You guys need an office admin, Like you really need

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>someone running the schedule because you have way too many

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 1>victims there at the same time so that they can

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 1>fuck up their identifications. Also, the purp is there, like

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:54.239
<v Speaker 1>he's there, like he's there for the lineup, Like, so,

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 1>why would you risk her running into her abuser anyway?

0:48:58.200 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Of course that's what's happening, because it's a TV show

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 1>backed and and Jill is clocking and she's like is

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>he in there?

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 4>Is someone ideing him? Like she knows what's up.

0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Back to Rebecca, once she sees Luke with his chin

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 1>in the air, she starts freaking out and she's like

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that's him, that's him, I know for sure, and Live

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:18.320
<v Speaker 1>has a calmer down. She's like having a full bodily

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 1>reaction and she runs out of the room. Of course,

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Jill sees her, runs up to her and is like

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 1>did he rape you too?

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Did he drug you?

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 1>And they have to like keep them apart and say

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 1>like stop talking to each other. You could blow the

0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 1>whole case and then they separate them. But Rebecca tells

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Live like those other s, few detectives in Brooklyn did

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.760
<v Speaker 1>not believe me, and I even doubted myself what happened.

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:41.800
<v Speaker 1>But now that I've seen Jill, I know I'm not

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>crazy and I'm not the only one.

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 4>This happened too.

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 1>So it is good in a way that like they

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 1>saw each other. But it's like, let's not give his

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 1>lawyer a reason to throw out the ideas. So now

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 1>we have Luke in interrogation and he admits that he

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 1>all that he also went on a date with Rebecca,

0:49:56.560 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 1>same actual situation like drinks then sex. But Live is like, okay,

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 1>but they both said they felt incapacitated and that you

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>raped them like one accuser, okay, two accusers. It's starting

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:10.719
<v Speaker 1>to look bad for you, bro, And he's like, this

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:13.399
<v Speaker 1>is what I was talking about. It's open season on men.

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 1>This girl is piling on. What are you talking about?

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Finn's like, oh, like, so why did you on match?

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Like he goes why ghost them? But it's like, why

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 1>did you unmatch with both girls that have accused you

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>of assault? And he's like, oh, is not calling girls

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 1>back a crime? Ugh?

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 2>And it's and they're like, no, but drugging and rape is.

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 2>And he stands by. He keeps saying, like, we are

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:37.800
<v Speaker 2>like getting to know you. We see like we know

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:40.000
<v Speaker 2>no one wants to go on dates with the orphan. Yeah,

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 2>like you're acting like a fucking creep, Like, yeah, it's

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 2>not an open season, but we could tell that you're not.

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't be crushing it, sir.

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're weird with his personality because the thing is

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 1>like he's not an unattractive man.

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 4>He's not. Oh you're weird.

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're like you're the little things you say,

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you're weird, Like you count money out loud on the counter.

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 4>What's up with you?

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 1>So they go, no, calling girls back's not a crime,

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.279
<v Speaker 1>but drugging and rape is. And he really stands by

0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 1>that he did not drug anyone, and like, if you

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>search my apartment, you're not gonna find drugs. Then there's

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.439
<v Speaker 1>like a long pause, okay, and they're just like looking

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 1>at him, and he's just looking at them, and he's like, okay. Uh.

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Speaker 1>He admits he takes girls to bars that pour strong drinks.

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 1>He's like, it just makes it easier for them to relax.

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:28.479
<v Speaker 1>Because the dating world is brutal, and I'm like, it's really,

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it has to be that brutal if

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:32.319
<v Speaker 1>you're just a fucking normal guy that like asks women

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 1>questions about themselves and doesn't act like and acts like

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>women are people, you know.

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and you're not like just entitled to sex

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:43.719
<v Speaker 2>day one, you know what I mean? Yeah, like that's

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 2>your goal is exactly just the fuck, So find someone

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 2>else who also wants that, Like, stop drugging people. Yeah,

0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 2>there's people with problems that would choose you.

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, there's a lid for every pot usually, but just

0:51:58.400 --> 0:51:59.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a lid for all you fucking

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:03.719
<v Speaker 1>in cell rapee guys. But anyway, So now they're at

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Pinky six, which is the bar where Luke took Rebecca,

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and the hostess like, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A dumb name.

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't want to know why that's what

0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 1>that is. But the hostess she's an ally Okay, she

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:18.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't recognize the guy from the photo, and they're like,

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 1>have you heard of anybody claiming to be drugged at

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 1>this bar? And she's like no, but I get it.

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 1>She's like, when I'm on the bar, I keep an

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 1>eye out, like she's obviously looking for pers but she's

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a hostess, so she's like, I'm in front of house

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 1>most of the time. So they ask who else was

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 1>bartending and then she goes, oh, four months ago on

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a Friday, let me just grab my iPad and like,

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, thank god for like technology. And she looks

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 1>at the schedule and she goes, oh, we were down

0:52:41.320 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 1>two of our regulars, so we called in a freelancer.

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 1>And cat's like a freelance bartender and we've heard this,

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:49.399
<v Speaker 1>We've heard this word before. And the hostess goes, there's

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>an app for that, and I couldn't remember what that was.

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:54.160
<v Speaker 1>And Apple did trademark that phrase, so that is a

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:57.960
<v Speaker 1>trademark phrase. Wait, anyway, trademark name, there's an app for that.

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>The phrase there's an app for that is trademarked by Apple, oh,

0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>because they allegedly they used it in like a two thousand.

0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:07.520
<v Speaker 4>And nine promo campaign for the iPhone.

0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow. So yeah, So she shows them a photo and

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:17.840
<v Speaker 1>profile from like freelance bartender the app, you know, freelance

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>barman or whatever, and photo and profile and his name

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 1>is Ash Gordon and it's the same guy that served

0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Jill on her date with Luke.

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:28.840
<v Speaker 4>Okay, it's the guy who told Finn that he was

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:32.200
<v Speaker 4>a freelancer. Okay. I actually have a friend whose name.

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Is Ashley Gordon who goes by ash Gordon on her Instagram,

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and I did want to point out that she wrote

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Drag the musical, which everybody in New Yorkshire go see.

0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:42.280
<v Speaker 4>It's Broadway.

0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's off Broadway at New World Stages, which is

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:47.360
<v Speaker 1>a great place to see stuff. I saw Avenue Q

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:50.240
<v Speaker 1>and Rock of Ages there, so go see Dragon musical.

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 1>This is unpaid.

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 4>She's just my friend and she's great and.

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 1>She's the one that brought me in to write on

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 1>like Nina West's album, like when she did a kid's album,

0:53:58.000 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, like she does a lot of writing for

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 1>a Drive queens and their songs and stuff. Okay, so

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:07.399
<v Speaker 1>now Kat and Rollins are talking to this dude, ash

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Gordon and confronting him about like they're like, oh, remember

0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:12.040
<v Speaker 1>when you lied to us about not knowing Luke And

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.800
<v Speaker 1>he's like, well, I maybe didn't remember him because I

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:17.200
<v Speaker 1>serve one hundred people a night. They're all just drink

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>orders to me. And yeah, he's a good actor. Because

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:23.480
<v Speaker 1>this guy's immediately like he immediately before gave me kind

0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:25.400
<v Speaker 1>of like the creeps, but he's even slimier now.

0:54:25.680 --> 0:54:27.200
<v Speaker 4>The actor's name is Daniel London.

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:29.800
<v Speaker 1>He has been in one to two episodes of a

0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of programs, like he's got up an extensive IMDb,

0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:35.480
<v Speaker 1>but I don't recognize him really from anything specific.

0:54:35.960 --> 0:54:38.400
<v Speaker 4>Kat's like Luke Mitchell.

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:41.040
<v Speaker 1>He called you six times in the last six months,

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, I give out my number to a

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:43.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of customers.

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 4>I have a following. People want to drink where I'm pouring.

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Is that even a thing if it's not your friend

0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 1>who's a bartender who bartends at different places? Are people

0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:54.919
<v Speaker 1>following different bartenders around to bars in New York?

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know you like the movie The Menu.

0:54:58.120 --> 0:55:02.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's like culinary people for bartending, right, yeah, yeah,

0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this guy's doing that, though, I don't

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:05.920
<v Speaker 1>think this.

0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:06.759
<v Speaker 4>Guy's best of the best.

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:08.920
<v Speaker 1>But I'll say you usually just like work at a bar,

0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 1>like no one's like chasing the poor, right right, Like

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I can calmly drink whiskey that comes out of this

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:16.959
<v Speaker 1>guy's bottle, you know what I mean? Like I don't

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not a thing, but let's see.

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 1>So Rollins is like, okay, dude, but the last two

0:55:24.640 --> 0:55:27.480
<v Speaker 1>girls you poured for with Luke ended up drugged and

0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 1>sexually assaulted. And this guy's like, and like, what does

0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that have to do with me? Like not being helpful,

0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:36.479
<v Speaker 1>Like the in cell vibes are popping, well, not even

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:39.839
<v Speaker 1>an acting of like oh no, yeah, it doesn't care.

0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't care, like that's what I mean. Like immediately, it's

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:44.160
<v Speaker 1>like this is a man that does not see women

0:55:44.200 --> 0:55:46.880
<v Speaker 1>as people at all. He's like, look, I'm not stingy

0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 1>with the booze, and these women have no problem letting

0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:52.759
<v Speaker 1>guys buy them drinks all night. And then he goes

0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 1>if they can't hold their liquor, that's on them. So

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 1>we're already getting the vibe that this guy is a misogynist,

0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, he wars heavy drinks to help his

0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 1>bros out, and the women need to if they're going

0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to get their shit paid for, they need to hold

0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:09.360
<v Speaker 1>their alcohol. That's his logic, I guess. So Rollin starts

0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:11.719
<v Speaker 1>her usual bullshit. She's like, oh, this guy's not going

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to go with bad cop, I've got to go with

0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:16.279
<v Speaker 1>flirt cop. So she immediately goes, maybe you're right, why

0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:17.800
<v Speaker 1>don't you come down and party with us at the

0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 1>precinct downtown And he's like, seze right through it. He goes,

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:22.879
<v Speaker 1>do people fall for that? And it's like they do, sir,

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:25.160
<v Speaker 1>she's very hot. They do. Many people fall for it.

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 1>He knows his rights, and he says, technically, I don't

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 1>need to be talking to you at all. He's like,

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:30.800
<v Speaker 1>why don't get the hell out of here because I

0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:34.319
<v Speaker 1>need this space at the bar for customers. So this guy,

0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, he knows his law. Corisy Live and Rollins

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:41.239
<v Speaker 1>are at the coffee cart on the street. Now Luke

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:43.839
<v Speaker 1>spent the night in holding and Live explains that they

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:47.040
<v Speaker 1>think he has an accomplice, this Ash guy. Neither woman

0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 1>drank that much, but they both ended up barely conscious.

0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:53.960
<v Speaker 1>And it turns out that also Ash Gordon has no

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 1>criminal record, but was a chemistry major in college and

0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:02.640
<v Speaker 1>he got kicked out for conducting unauthorized recreational drug trials

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:03.319
<v Speaker 1>in the lab.

0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:06.399
<v Speaker 4>Wow. Wow, it's like how quick do they.

0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Go through everything? Like they they find out who Ash

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Gordon is, they check his record, then they go to

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 1>what like where he's front. They call the college immediately

0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and like you heard of this guy? They're like, oh him,

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 1>recreational drug trials guy, we know him, you know. They

0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>find out all this information very quickly. I love detective work.

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:26.000
<v Speaker 1>But Caresee's like, okay, but like, what's in it for

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the bartender if there's no motive and there's no evidence, Like,

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 1>how am I going to get a subpoena? And live goes,

0:57:30.960 --> 0:57:33.560
<v Speaker 1>just tell the judges your cop instincts and he goes,

0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm an Ada now, and then he's like then he

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:38.680
<v Speaker 1>goes and gets his egg sandwich from the coffee card.

0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:40.360
<v Speaker 4>He comes back, he goes, never, I'll try to push.

0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 1>It through, like he's just still gonna like he obviously

0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:44.960
<v Speaker 1>it took like a zero pushing for him to be

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 1>like all right. So now he's They're at Luke Luke's

0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:52.600
<v Speaker 1>arraignment and Careese's asking for fifty thousand dollars bail. The

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 1>lawyer wants ro r. He has a steady job, no record.

0:57:57.200 --> 0:57:59.439
<v Speaker 1>This is Morning After Regret, and he has a female lawyer,

0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 1>which pisses me off. He has that woman that kind

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 1>of reminds me of Edie Falco as the lawyer and

0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:06.439
<v Speaker 1>the judge splits the difference and sets it at twenty

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 1>five k. Jill is there in court and they're like,

0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you didn't have to come here, and she's like, I'm

0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:12.360
<v Speaker 1>just trying to piece together what happened. I thought maybe

0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 1>if I saw him or heard his voice it would help.

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:18.320
<v Speaker 1>And then Corisi tells her, look, it's gonna take some time,

0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 1>like from I used to be a detective, like these

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 1>things can be you know, take some time, and then

0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:25.960
<v Speaker 1>she goes, Unfortunately, we didn't really find anything in his apartment,

0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:28.400
<v Speaker 1>so we think he might have an accomplice, and immediately

0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Jill goes the bartender and he's like, what do you

0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:32.000
<v Speaker 1>know about that?

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:35.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's like why do you say that? She goes.

0:58:35.360 --> 0:58:37.480
<v Speaker 1>They seem to know each other. They were laughing together

0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:40.080
<v Speaker 1>when I walked in, and they knew each other's names,

0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and Carisee's like, you may have just gotten me probable cause.

0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 1>So now we cut to this bartender's apartment and he's like,

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:49.080
<v Speaker 1>i'd offer you a beer, but I don't know what

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the etiquette is for someone illegally searching your apartment, and

0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Finn's like, we actually have a warrant, so it's legal

0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to shut the fuck up, and he has kind of

0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:58.120
<v Speaker 1>a nice place for a bartender who can't hold a

0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.280
<v Speaker 1>steady gig and is like a free land spartender. And

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess he likes Sunday in the park with George.

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:06.720
<v Speaker 1>It's decorated in a wild way. He goes, all you're

0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:10.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna find is toothpaste, mouthwash, and vitamins. I believe in

0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:12.280
<v Speaker 1>clean living. It's like, you're a bartender, what.

0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Okay? And then as soon as.

0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 1>He says I believe in clean living, Cat shows up

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and goes found percocet and he's like, that's prescription from

0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:26.320
<v Speaker 1>dental work. And then a tech calls Cat and Thin

0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:30.240
<v Speaker 1>over and goes check this out. They find this computer.

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.440
<v Speaker 1>They find his computer with a file labeled Luke and

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 1>there's all these files in them. The guy can't open them.

0:59:36.040 --> 0:59:39.120
<v Speaker 1>They're encrypted, but like he's like, it'll take time. And

0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:42.680
<v Speaker 1>then Ash goes, sorry, guys, huff and puff all you want,

0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:45.560
<v Speaker 1>but that's not happening, Like so now he's just taunting

0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the cops. And the files match the dates of the

0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 1>two rapes, and there are four other folders in there

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:54.760
<v Speaker 1>with different guys' names, with five to six files in each.

0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:57.800
<v Speaker 1>So Finn's like we could be looking at twenty five

0:59:57.880 --> 1:00:01.720
<v Speaker 1>more rapes. So this is bad. So in Live's office,

1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Kat is reporting to Live that nothing was found at

1:00:05.480 --> 1:00:10.480
<v Speaker 1>his place drug wise, just I drops antihistamines percocet, and

1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Lives like, but he could have used that stuff to

1:00:12.920 --> 1:00:15.760
<v Speaker 1>make this and they're like, yes, but any good lawyer

1:00:15.840 --> 1:00:18.200
<v Speaker 1>will explain him having those are household things, you know.

1:00:18.280 --> 1:00:20.240
<v Speaker 1>But that's probably the point of how this guy's making

1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:24.000
<v Speaker 1>shit is he's using non detectable shit that everybody has,

1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, So Live points out if he's buying

1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:31.600
<v Speaker 1>drugs from anybody, like the percocet, he's using cash or crypto.

1:00:32.040 --> 1:00:34.800
<v Speaker 1>What about the files and they're like bad news. He's

1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:38.040
<v Speaker 1>they're triple ENCRYPTID, only he has the password and the app.

1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:40.240
<v Speaker 1>We can't go to the app, as we've already found

1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:42.080
<v Speaker 1>out in this episode, the apps don't help you. But

1:00:42.240 --> 1:00:45.120
<v Speaker 1>even so, they're designed so that even the company cannot

1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:48.800
<v Speaker 1>access the file. So there's twenty six other files in there.

1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:50.919
<v Speaker 1>How do we find these victims? And you know, Liv

1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:53.520
<v Speaker 1>knows what to do to get victims to come forward.

1:00:53.640 --> 1:00:55.840
<v Speaker 1>She's like, we get them to find us, cut to

1:00:55.920 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 1>her in her fancy tie outfit, her fit like her

1:00:58.920 --> 1:01:02.400
<v Speaker 1>tie uniform outfit, doing a press conference right in the precinct.

1:01:02.440 --> 1:01:04.919
<v Speaker 1>We got the cameras in there. She did a costume change,

1:01:04.960 --> 1:01:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and we're rolling. Okay, we see a woman at a

1:01:07.680 --> 1:01:11.520
<v Speaker 1>nail salon getting a pedicure and watching the report looking shook,

1:01:11.960 --> 1:01:14.720
<v Speaker 1>like she's watching liv talk about this man. His name

1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:15.120
<v Speaker 1>is Luke.

1:01:15.200 --> 1:01:18.120
<v Speaker 4>He's on the app True Heart, like this is what happens.

1:01:18.360 --> 1:01:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Then there's another woman in a cab watching it on

1:01:20.320 --> 1:01:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Taxi Cab TV, same thing, and then a third older

1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:25.640
<v Speaker 1>woman is watching it at her house and we're seeing

1:01:25.680 --> 1:01:27.760
<v Speaker 1>them all kind of react to this press conference, and

1:01:27.840 --> 1:01:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Live is just urging any victims to come forward. They're like,

1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:32.760
<v Speaker 1>how long do you think it's going to take? Phones

1:01:32.800 --> 1:01:35.840
<v Speaker 1>start ringing immediately, like there's victims out there and they're

1:01:35.880 --> 1:01:39.160
<v Speaker 1>all watching the evening news on landline television or whatever.

1:01:39.320 --> 1:01:42.880
<v Speaker 1>They're watching it on antenna television. So the phones immediately

1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:46.000
<v Speaker 1>start ringing and the tips are coming in. So now

1:01:46.240 --> 1:01:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the girl in the taxi is talking to Finn with

1:01:49.120 --> 1:01:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the same story. Couple of drinks at a bar, suddenly

1:01:51.920 --> 1:01:53.840
<v Speaker 1>coming too on her bed naked, she can't sit up

1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:57.280
<v Speaker 1>her body isn't working. Pedicure Girl's story. She's telling Kat

1:01:57.320 --> 1:01:59.440
<v Speaker 1>how she was scared and embarrassed. She just needed to

1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:01.560
<v Speaker 1>get out of there. They're going back and forth between

1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the two of them. Taxi girls said, I messaged him

1:02:04.080 --> 1:02:05.840
<v Speaker 1>asking what did we do the night before? And she

1:02:05.920 --> 1:02:08.880
<v Speaker 1>even threw in some emojis to keep it light, and

1:02:09.000 --> 1:02:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Pedicure girl goes, he said, we hit it off like

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<v Speaker 1>rock stars. That's not how I remember it. Then this

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<v Speaker 1>is what's fucked. Taxi girl says, I reported him to

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<v Speaker 1>True Heart five times.

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<v Speaker 4>They never got back to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the pedicure girl goes, I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>I could call the police because I didn't remember anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Taxi girl says, I only had a sense that something

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<v Speaker 1>bad had happened, and so I've just been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>forget it. But then obviously seeing Lives press conference, like

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, this must be what happened to me. So

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<v Speaker 1>now they're talking to the older woman and she says,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a victim, but I think my daughter Piper

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<v Speaker 1>may have been. She had a stroke the night she

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<v Speaker 1>was raped. The mom is like, whoever heard of a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight year old girl having a stroke. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it does happen, but it is, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as common. And she hasn't been the same since. She's

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to sleep. I have to sleep with her all night.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't fall asleep till the sun comes up. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad. Now they're talking to Piper. She says the

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<v Speaker 1>night that night that she got home, something felt wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>She called her mom, She went to the er. They

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<v Speaker 1>started a rape kit. Ten minutes into the rape kit,

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<v Speaker 1>her ears started ringing. She had a stroke, followed by seizures.

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<v Speaker 1>The doctor said that drugs could have triggered the stroke.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't go to the police because she didn't remember anything.

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<v Speaker 1>This was three months earlier. And she goes, my life

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<v Speaker 1>ended three months ago. And her mom's like, no, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, mom, it did.

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<v Speaker 4>Shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>And Piper is played by Madison Ferris, who played Laura

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<v Speaker 1>Wingfield in The Glass Menagerie. And she has something called

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<v Speaker 1>face show scalpulo humoraled muscular dystrophy and was the first

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<v Speaker 1>wheelchair user to play a lead on Broadway, which I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was a cool milestone person to call out that

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<v Speaker 1>Madison was the first person to do that. So now

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<v Speaker 1>live in Careesy are with Luke and his lawyer in

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<v Speaker 1>the Brick interrogation room, breaking the news to them that hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up, buddy, there are few more women that have

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<v Speaker 1>come forward with an identical m O. And that is,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, just like that is they have. These

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<v Speaker 1>two women have come that we're talking to. Are all

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<v Speaker 1>three women are from the Luke file. Okay, So also

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<v Speaker 1>Piper who had a stroke that night and is paralyzed

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<v Speaker 1>and has braid damage. Guess what, bro if she dies,

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<v Speaker 1>that's felony murder. And he's like, no way, I put

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<v Speaker 1>her in a cab. She was walking and talking like

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<v Speaker 1>she was fine when I left her. And they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all your victims were. That's how drug facilitated rape works.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's and he's like I still. He's like still,

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't drug anyone. I didn't drug anyone. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, okay, well, let's talk about Ash, like we

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<v Speaker 1>know you two have been in touch since your arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>So Luke spills. He's like, okay, here's what's up. Before

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<v Speaker 1>a date, I would call Ash and let him know

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<v Speaker 1>that I was coming in. And then they're like and

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<v Speaker 1>then he would drug them and he goes I guess

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<v Speaker 1>and Greasy's like, not good enough, buddy, and Luke's like,

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<v Speaker 1>all he told me is that he would give them something,

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<v Speaker 1>something so that they would be compliant is the word

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<v Speaker 1>he used, which is great.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want compliant to be used in dating at all, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Luke, you're discussed, I wrote, okay, dude, but something

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<v Speaker 1>is still fucked in your head that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have sex with women who are lying there like zombies,

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<v Speaker 1>barely conscious, like that you want compliant women. You are

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<v Speaker 1>equally fucked up as the man who mixes the drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>So they act because he keeps going. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>drug them, And it's like, but you are looking for that,

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<v Speaker 1>are you not? Like you're looking for a drugged woman.

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<v Speaker 1>So they ask Luke, like what's in it for Ash,

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<v Speaker 1>Like why is he doing this? And Luke's like, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's a mad scientist. He wants me to video. He

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<v Speaker 1>all of the dates and sent them to him and

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<v Speaker 1>then he says he calls them his clinical trials. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, okay, well you got to give us your

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<v Speaker 1>video copies. He goes, I don't keep copies. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be a violation of the girls privacy. Like, what the fuck, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>Like your moral compass is truly smashed on the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of a river, Like, what the fuck? What about Piper's cocktails?

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<v Speaker 1>Say anything about that specifically? And Luke goes, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about how the date before her it had worn

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<v Speaker 1>off too soon, and they're talking about Rebecca and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that probably shouldn't happen again, so he must have cooked

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<v Speaker 1>something up. I don't know, and Lives like, well, guess what, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna find out. So now they're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>the little the little you gotta go wear a wine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna dangle you game.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So now Luke is pacing on a city sidewalk while

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<v Speaker 1>the squad watches from Afar Kat's basically saying what I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying just a minute ago.

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<v Speaker 4>She goes, why do these dudes want to drug women?

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<v Speaker 1>So they just lay there and Lives like she points

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<v Speaker 1>it out, the same thing with every criminal we ever

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<v Speaker 1>see on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about control.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they're like, they tell themselves it's consensual and

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<v Speaker 1>since the women just lay there, you know, and Finn

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<v Speaker 1>goes yeah, and they can't get it any other way,

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<v Speaker 1>and this way They don't have to talk or buy dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>They just get what they came for, which is gross

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<v Speaker 1>way of putting it, but absolutely true. You know, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to like wine and dine some woman

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<v Speaker 1>who's gonna reject me when I can just knock her

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<v Speaker 1>out and have sex with her lifeless body.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I assault her lifelife's body. It's certainly not sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Ash comes out and starts yelling at Luke about how

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<v Speaker 1>your face is everywhere. Man, why are you here? You

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<v Speaker 1>screwed up? And Luke is begging for help, like please,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta help me. Ash is like, I can't be

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you. Luke's like, my lawyer says they might

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<v Speaker 1>charge me for murder over Piper, and Ash is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know names, and that's like you named,

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<v Speaker 1>you have files of all of them. And then Luke's like,

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<v Speaker 1>Luke goes three months ago and he goes, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>January twentieth, like he knew the exact fucking date and

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<v Speaker 1>who Piper was, long blonde hair, like just from the

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<v Speaker 1>three months ago remark. So he is sick. Luke is like,

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<v Speaker 1>just tell me what you put in it so I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell the doctors like, I'll say it was me.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it like roofies or something? And Ash is so

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<v Speaker 1>insulted he goes, rufies, you think I went to date

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<v Speaker 1>rape depot and grabbed a box or roofees. My work

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<v Speaker 1>is artisanal. I tailor make every batch so that they're

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<v Speaker 1>not too lively and not too zombie.

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<v Speaker 4>Like this is fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>He starts shoving Luke and going this doesn't happen with

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<v Speaker 1>the other guys, like you're the one that got caught,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the cops show up and he's like and

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<v Speaker 1>they start arresting Ash.

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<v Speaker 4>He goes, Luke, you stupid moron, and he punches him right.

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<v Speaker 1>In the face, which is satisfying, and then Live cuffs

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<v Speaker 1>him and Ash is still like, you guys don't have anything.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of wild.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in interrogation with his lawyer, they're just playing

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<v Speaker 1>back the tape, like the artisanal comment the batch about

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<v Speaker 1>not being too zombie, not too like, and Ash's lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>is like, he's just bragging you got nothing, you have

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<v Speaker 1>no evidence, and they're like, we have Luke's testimony and

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<v Speaker 1>five women who id that him as the bartender who

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<v Speaker 1>served them, plus Piper's talk screen came up positive for percocet.

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<v Speaker 1>She was the only one that went immediately to the

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<v Speaker 1>er and got a talk screen. And that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>found at your place. And when a jury SE's like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, that's prescription. And they're like when a jury

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<v Speaker 1>sees Piper on a stand in her wheelchair slurring her words,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, that's tough. But I didn't do anything

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<v Speaker 1>to her. I was just leveling the playing field, and

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<v Speaker 1>lives like, oh, do tell? And here comes another in

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<v Speaker 1>cell manifesto on this show sees He's like, I see

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<v Speaker 1>guys sweaty and desperate every night getting rolled by women.

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<v Speaker 1>I told Luke, if you're gonna pick up the check,

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<v Speaker 1>at least get something for it. And Live says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and same with all your other clients, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not my clients. They don't pay me. It's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like a moron. You could be making money off

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<v Speaker 1>of this too, but you're that psycho that you just

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<v Speaker 1>want it for the fun of it. Like he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't pay me, They're just guys trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>over And just like them, you need me more than

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<v Speaker 1>I need you. I didn't rape them and if that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to call it, and I but I

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<v Speaker 1>do know who did and it's like yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have the encrypted video files to prove it. So they've

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<v Speaker 1>got to like work with this guy if they want

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<v Speaker 1>to get the other guys on this fucking computer. At

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<v Speaker 1>the squad, they're hauling the guys in. They've got four

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<v Speaker 1>more rapists, each one more beta than the next. They say,

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<v Speaker 1>lives like lives like yeah. Ash gets off watching these

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<v Speaker 1>women get raped after he drugged them, and Rollins goes

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<v Speaker 1>The scary part is that he did not have trouble

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<v Speaker 1>finding five guys who were into this.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, that's not hard to believe at all.

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<v Speaker 1>They just found a telegram chat with seventy thousand men

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and they're all talking about raping the women

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<v Speaker 1>in their lives, their girlfriends, their wives, their mothers, their sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're sharing tips and tricks. Seventy thousand people are

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<v Speaker 1>in this chat, So I don't find it art to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that he found five guys in Manhattan he could

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<v Speaker 1>help out, you know, like not surprising. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>share a link to the article about this telegram chat

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<v Speaker 1>in our show notes for this episode, but one unless

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<v Speaker 1>you already talked about it. But on finding the victims,

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<v Speaker 1>Rollin says, unless these guys talk, we'll never be able

1:10:36.920 --> 1:10:40.200
<v Speaker 1>to find all of them, and Live says, Okay, well

1:10:40.280 --> 1:10:42.360
<v Speaker 1>let's notify the ones we can. And I'm sorry, Like

1:10:43.360 --> 1:10:46.200
<v Speaker 1>what isn't this guy giving up the whole video password

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<v Speaker 1>as part of the deal, Like how are the other

1:10:48.439 --> 1:10:52.160
<v Speaker 1>rapists coming in without evidence, which I'm assuming is in

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<v Speaker 1>the videos? Like and they can track the girls down

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<v Speaker 1>from the videos, Like I don't really get why they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we will never find all the victims. Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>find these guys and you find out who they were

1:11:02.160 --> 1:11:04.519
<v Speaker 1>matching with on these apps, you will So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But we see Kat breaking the news to the girl,

1:11:08.760 --> 1:11:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the pedicure girl, Rollins goes to Rebecca, Finnn tells the

1:11:11.680 --> 1:11:15.200
<v Speaker 1>girl from the taxi. They're all obviously extremely relieved and

1:11:15.240 --> 1:11:16.880
<v Speaker 1>emotional that Luke is going to jail.

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<v Speaker 4>Ash has been busted too.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Cariese's talking to Jill and she's like, I honestly

1:11:21.800 --> 1:11:24.519
<v Speaker 1>don't know how I'll trust anyone ever again. Like it's sad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like this has like completely like changed her life

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<v Speaker 1>in not for the better. Liv and Rolins are now

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Piper and they're telling her that Luke will

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<v Speaker 1>do ten years, Ash will do two two because he

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<v Speaker 1>cooperated and gave up other rapists and we can't prove

1:11:40.720 --> 1:11:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that what he used were even controlled substances.

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<v Speaker 4>But still the possession of.

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<v Speaker 1>The tapes feels like it's and he should get years

1:11:52.560 --> 1:11:55.880
<v Speaker 1>for every count of that, plus the facilitation of rape.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I feel like they could have.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotten him higher than two, but like I guess he

1:11:59.400 --> 1:12:00.800
<v Speaker 1>gave them four rapists, so I don't know.

1:12:00.840 --> 1:12:02.320
<v Speaker 4>They had to make a deal with the fucking devil.

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<v Speaker 1>But Live has to explain again how criminals are ahead

1:12:06.400 --> 1:12:07.479
<v Speaker 1>of the game with the drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>The law can't keep up, like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like they're using, how they're using household stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>like we there's like we can't figure out like exactly

1:12:14.520 --> 1:12:17.200
<v Speaker 1>what he used. And Piper's like, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get strong enough to make a statement at sentencing. They

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<v Speaker 1>thought of me as a thing to experiment on, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to know that I'm a human being

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<v Speaker 1>and I matter and lives, like you're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>that and we're going to be by your side every

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<v Speaker 1>step of the way. And it's such a tough episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's dick wolf baby, I mean it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a dark one. I like, this is a more recent season,

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<v Speaker 1>so I like kind of forgot about I knew about.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the facilitated I mean it, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like when you were talking, yeah, you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like that, Yeah it's new to us. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, I was like, oh, yeah, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>one where the bartender helps. But I like forgot about

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<v Speaker 1>the girl who had the seizure, and like her life

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<v Speaker 1>is fully she's paralyzed now, like you ruined her life,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like because you just gave her fucking whatever

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<v Speaker 1>your little concoction of drugs is. But let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>this true crimes that you did your research on here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the first one is in Seattle. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>really do Seattle stuff very often.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy's name is Ian Jurgensen. And so we're in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 2>We're at a popular EDM venue. Okay, and basically the

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<v Speaker 2>police there with Homeland Security ran a five month undercover

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<v Speaker 2>sting at a nightclub called Foundation. And if people are

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<v Speaker 2>from Seattle, it's on Western Ave. So if that means

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<v Speaker 2>anything to anybody, Okay, so they started the investigation in

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<v Speaker 2>March twenty eighteen because there was a lot of reports

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<v Speaker 2>of drug trafficking inside the club, as well as concerns

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<v Speaker 2>about a bunch of overdoses and then sexuals in the area.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was really tough because it's from Seattle Cops

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<v Speaker 2>official reports and cops lie, but that's those are the sources.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is from the official report as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Several in house drug dealers were allowed to buy pass

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<v Speaker 2>club security and sell inside the venue, and that management

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<v Speaker 2>was aware of the drug dealing. And then one dealer

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<v Speaker 2>was bragging about his relationship with the club owner and

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<v Speaker 2>was explaining like how much DGHB to used to dose

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<v Speaker 2>swim and depending on their weight and stuff. So they

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<v Speaker 2>were like selling GHB and then like helping people dose

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<v Speaker 2>out the GHB. Oh yeah, And so they got raided.

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<v Speaker 2>They got granted a warrant to raid on Wednesday, August

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<v Speaker 2>eighth of twenty eighteen, and basically they seized a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't actually know, eight hundred and twenty nine

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<v Speaker 2>grams of cocaine, one thousand grams of MDMA, four hundred xccpills,

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred xanax, one hundred and ninety grams of ketamine,

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen grams of DMT, and one hundred and seventy six

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<v Speaker 2>grams of GHB, twelve hundred MALLI capsules, and then an

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<v Speaker 2>additional prescription drugs, two handguns, and more than sixty grand

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<v Speaker 2>in cash.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>When I started, I said, it's a lot, but then

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<v Speaker 2>I went, oh, I don't actually know if it's that much.

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<v Speaker 4>After reading the list, Yeah, it seems like a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems like a lot. I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>really know what grams are.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know grams really, but like just the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of pills, like it seems like yeah, but yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>all the other drugs I'm kind of fine with, like

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<v Speaker 1>party drugs, but yeah, selling the date rape drug definitely

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<v Speaker 1>takes it on another level and like telling, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>giving instructions on how to rape, Like for sure, sell

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<v Speaker 1>some molly at the club, but what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>But also I do feel kind of with the episode

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<v Speaker 1>where the charges need to be more like there needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be facilitating to rape charge or like attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>to rate, like there's there must be something. But basically

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<v Speaker 1>this guy Ian was quickly found what to be the part,

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<v Speaker 1>Well don't but but don't. Don't like some people use

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<v Speaker 1>g as a party drug as well. Yeah, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>not drinking, got it? Got a drink?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So if you're putting in someone's drink, you're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So even this owner was found, you know, to be

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<v Speaker 2>the primary source, he quickly blamed it on a few

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<v Speaker 2>bad apples.

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<v Speaker 4>Lol, that doesn't work. And so many all these.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad apples are really adding up, right, there's so bad

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<v Speaker 1>apples everywhere, it seems like only it's like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of bad apples.

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<v Speaker 2>And but you know, he's like, I just love the

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<v Speaker 2>nightlife and music culture and shut up. You get two accomplices,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael law Olmos said, and Christopher Jean Cheret char Charrette,

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<v Speaker 2>and they I'm like thinking about Lacey's Shabert Shabert from

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<v Speaker 2>me girls when I'm trying to pronounce this name. They

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<v Speaker 2>were also charged, these two guys with conspiracy and unlawful

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<v Speaker 2>use of a building for drug purposes. The Glove The club,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, ended up having its liquor license revoked by

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<v Speaker 2>the Washington State Liquor License and then the club.

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<v Speaker 1>Is now closed spoiler alert rip.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the Washington State Liquor and Licensed Suspension Bureau

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever released the press release that said that the

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<v Speaker 2>management provided employee uniforms to the dealers so they can

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<v Speaker 2>blend in and run the VIP and sell drugs. Ian

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<v Speaker 2>was charged with supplying large amounts of drugs to dealers.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixteen people along with him were arrested and charged with

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<v Speaker 2>like drugs, weapons conspiracy charges. He pled not guilty to

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy charges in connection with the Joint Drug investigation on

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<v Speaker 2>January twenty fourth, twenty nineteen. These local cases were hard

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<v Speaker 2>to find info on because it's all like charges, arrested, raids, fun,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I couldn't find court or conviction information. I

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<v Speaker 2>did find one Ian Jorgensen that's fifty years old living

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<v Speaker 2>in Seattle, so it might be him, I'm sure, but

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to pay the monthly fee to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to find more information about this man. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like all these cops just bragging about the raid.

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<v Speaker 4>But how how did the court? Okay, yeah, what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, like I wasn't able to find where

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<v Speaker 2>he served, if he got convicted, anything, court transcripts, like

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<v Speaker 2>I could not find anything and all the papers, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I truly had to cite edm websites like night life sites.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>So able to find anything, and that happens. That's like

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<v Speaker 2>the sensationalization of this sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the raid.

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<v Speaker 2>Happened, We got everything. I look at all the drugs

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like okay, and then did you make a deal?

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<v Speaker 2>Did these serve time? Did what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>You? Did the women get sult Yeah? So very frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the next one too, it was like the

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<v Speaker 1>Guardian and Daily Mail and like hello, like I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>find info really so this this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a more shorter episodes on the Crime Front guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, but you know we have hundreds of episodes. Get

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<v Speaker 4>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>So this name is Millie Loftus and we're in the

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<v Speaker 2>UK again. Twenty eighteen. Loftus was twenty two. She started

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<v Speaker 2>to feel ill on a train ride home after a

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<v Speaker 2>night out in Bath, so she started convulsing. She couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>stop vomiting as well. She lost control of her speech, hands,

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<v Speaker 2>legs and body. On the way home to Swindon, that's

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<v Speaker 2>where she lived. British Transport Police helped her and made

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<v Speaker 2>sure she got into an ambulance. Her drink had been spiked,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was rushed to the hospital, where her mother, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>believed that she was having a stroke due to being

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<v Speaker 2>drugged with liquid ecstasy. Miley said she had two drinks

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<v Speaker 2>and after she ordered a third. That's when she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>like remember anything. She doesn't remember paying for it or

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<v Speaker 2>being given anything, and like she had no control over

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<v Speaker 2>her body. It took thirteen hours of an ivy drip

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of toxins in her body, so something

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<v Speaker 2>was in there.

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<v Speaker 4>And again it's just mirrors and daily mails. It's like, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Week, k is this week, but an amazing episode and sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to tell you, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she probably never found out who did that to her,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, you know, so, yeah, I wish I had more.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope she's doing okay. That's obviously scary. Anything happening

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<v Speaker 2>in public, like that's scary. And even like I bit

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<v Speaker 2>we chocolate from a friend and then it ended up

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<v Speaker 2>being mushrooms and so it was fine and I trusted

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<v Speaker 2>my friend, but like feeling like shit and out of

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<v Speaker 2>sorts and I still knew kind of what was happening,

1:20:26.439 --> 1:20:29.360
<v Speaker 2>but not was scary and annoying enough, like I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even imagine, Yeah, I just I can't imagine having to deal.

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<v Speaker 1>With this, like yeah, losing control of your body, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's oh my god, so terrifying, so terrifying.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I hope that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's got to be careful. I mean, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing drugs this weekend, but we'll see. Be careful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, another we all have.

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<v Speaker 4>To be careful and people need to stop like raping

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<v Speaker 4>women is what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Well, let's go onto our post mortem because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have a guest for today's episode. Wow, this

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<v Speaker 1>episode fucking truly like truly scary this episode because this

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<v Speaker 1>guy that does the potions to get to drug women

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<v Speaker 1>is literally doing it out of the hatefulness in his

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<v Speaker 1>heart towards women. Like he literally is not getting paid.

1:21:24.400 --> 1:21:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Like it's so like we're always like, oh yeah, men

1:21:27.080 --> 1:21:29.200
<v Speaker 1>hate women. It's like yeah, look at this like person

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode that's just like yeah, just like feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not fair guys buy these girls all this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and then they don't hook up with them. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna even the playing field, like ugh, vomitous character. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, for the love of the game, their initial thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's all just so twisted and yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>all they talk about is wanting pure women and then

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<v Speaker 1>also being mad that women don't give it up for

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<v Speaker 1>a vodka soda.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it's like, which is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Should we like fuck because you get a soda or

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<v Speaker 2>should they be like I and acting like you're buying

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<v Speaker 2>these drinks from the goodness of your heart like you.

1:22:13.360 --> 1:22:16.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like like you want something and it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>you're entire This isn't a business thing. It's also like,

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<v Speaker 2>then stop. But if you say no, thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You and you don't want someone to drink, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>bitch too, right, Suddenly you're a bitch, Like how dare

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<v Speaker 1>you not take this drink? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>That's true too. It's fucked.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can't win. But but I like seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>guy from American Pie.

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<v Speaker 4>I did see a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look into it, but I guess gen Z's

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<v Speaker 1>watching American Pie and they're not happy, and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Get the fuck away from us.

1:22:44.800 --> 1:22:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Like we were like I don't know, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday I am there was like a boy in the

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<v Speaker 1>audience in the front and I go, what are you

1:22:51.880 --> 1:22:52.160
<v Speaker 1>gen Z?

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, oh, I'm not sure, and I go older.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes twenty two and I go, then you of

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<v Speaker 2>course you're gens and what else would you be? Why

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<v Speaker 2>at koy? When does alf start?

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<v Speaker 4>Not twenty two? Yeah, Alphas are like thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, they're the they're the they're the current teens that

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<v Speaker 1>are taking over Elon musks No, but they know they

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<v Speaker 1>know it's the end.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, okay with it. They're like, yeah, no, the teens,

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<v Speaker 4>the the gen Z.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching uh the American High reminds me of when you

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<v Speaker 1>watched uh A Devil Wars Prada with your niece and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, yeah, there's that consenting well my name,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in your special. I'm acting like that's something you

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<v Speaker 1>just told me. It's like in your special. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't okay with herself, was like scared. She was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like, how dare you but talk about me?

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<v Speaker 2>But she actually goes, oh, I guess I'm the favorite

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<v Speaker 2>since she didn't talk about the other kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she gets dementia. That was like pretty funny, but okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is what la bible? Do you know what

1:23:52.560 --> 1:23:55.040
<v Speaker 1>this is is it lad Bible? Oh yeah, Lad, but

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<v Speaker 1>yeah what is that?

1:23:56.080 --> 1:23:59.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I think it's like a bro site.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, it annoyed me because the main characters

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<v Speaker 2>are sexist losers and don't deserve any female attention.

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<v Speaker 4>Completely ridiculous. They only care about sex.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bordering on insect I just like, I don't know it,

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<v Speaker 1>just I guess it's problematic. I bet I would still

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<v Speaker 1>like it though, Yeah, oh my god. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, you know what people have been the

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<v Speaker 1>most mad at about my special and the clips I'm

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<v Speaker 1>posting online are dog trainers saying how you have to

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<v Speaker 1>use a leash.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like dog trainers are fighting in my video.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this. They're like, and then your dog's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>attacked by my dog.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The American Pie thing wasn't even interesting in any capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>I also did restart Orange as the New Black. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I can, oh my gosh, from this

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<v Speaker 1>go on the journey.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing the Journey, but I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I really loved that and when it came out, what

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<v Speaker 2>like and then I yeah, I put it on and

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<v Speaker 2>it was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wait, totally off topic as usual, but you're are

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<v Speaker 1>you caught up on the New York reunions and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like or there was maybe there was one last night,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, like the one where the one where Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>I just think this is appropriate for our podcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron is like, well, you didn't report it, your your

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<v Speaker 1>sexual assault, and like, aren't you worried that he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it to other women?

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, there was I don't think Brynn is

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<v Speaker 4>correct in a lot of what she's done.

1:25:30.560 --> 1:25:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I think she's got a lot of issues, but the

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<v Speaker 1>way that Aaron was talking to her about her sexual

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<v Speaker 1>assault was fucked up.

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<v Speaker 4>Well Jenna, thank god, stood up for her.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also like Aaron, you're shocked and it's unfair

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna do it again.

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<v Speaker 4>You donated to Trump twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you donated to stop the steal a convicted sexual

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<v Speaker 1>abuser felon who is now the president that you probably

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<v Speaker 1>voted for, And now you don't understand how men continue

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<v Speaker 1>to abuse and women get punished for coming forward.

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<v Speaker 4>You're a fucking moron.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So there's something sinister about her, And I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to say that about a woman, a pregnant woman,

1:26:08.800 --> 1:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>but like she yeah, there's something sinister. Well, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>pranks of it all. It's the Ellen Degeneress, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>George Clooney. People that are known for pranks are bad people. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Blake and Justin Baldoni?

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<v Speaker 4>Like what the fuck? What is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder if Taylor is not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>friends with them anymore? Like I wonder I heard. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the internet is saying that Taylor's going arm's length. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's like, you know, like that's the internet. Close

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<v Speaker 1>doors are not like what where is their friendship stand?

1:26:42.320 --> 1:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>And like Blake isn't I don't know. It's like tough,

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough to seal. But my thing is, who was

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<v Speaker 1>just I've never heard of Justin Baldoni? So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand why people I don't want to know about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have lived my whole life never knowing about

1:26:56.200 --> 1:27:00.120
<v Speaker 1>this man, and That's what I'm mad about. But also, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian weaponizing her assault is so fucked up, just so

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<v Speaker 1>fucking laying into her.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank God.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jessel's standing on, but like, how dare you do that?

1:27:08.360 --> 1:27:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Brendo a family? Can you imagine having to watch that

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<v Speaker 1>with your husband, and it came up out of nowhere

1:27:14.080 --> 1:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>when she was just like, oh, you know, Jessel's love

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<v Speaker 1>of her life is a different guy. Just for context everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>She just like brought it up out of nowhere on

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<v Speaker 1>television and.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't true.

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<v Speaker 1>The conversation wasn't who's the love of your life? It

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<v Speaker 1>was the wildest hookup you've ever had? Yeah, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she just went and lied. She's like she has problems. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she has problems. I think she's out of there. If

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<v Speaker 1>they even keep that franchise, she's out of there. I

1:27:37.320 --> 1:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm wrong. I also

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait for Summer House, I know. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more of a I'm more of an osmosis Summer

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<v Speaker 1>House person, I know. But it's like the Lindsay being

1:27:46.760 --> 1:27:50.759
<v Speaker 1>pregnant in the House Page, like Craig and Page.

1:27:51.040 --> 1:27:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like I'm.

1:27:51.800 --> 1:27:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Excited about all that, but also like sexism is crazy.

1:27:54.840 --> 1:27:57.519
<v Speaker 2>Anyone that's mad at Page or that she lost a prize.

1:27:57.640 --> 1:28:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Like my big thing that I keep saying is Page

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<v Speaker 2>could fuck Barack Obama.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Page is one of the like perfect specimens on this planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm Paige just stated my cousin, so page can

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<v Speaker 1>do better. Okay, oh my god, Hello, well all right,

1:28:18.280 --> 1:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>should we move on. Let's go into our what would

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<v Speaker 1>sister peg?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what we learned.

1:28:22.840 --> 1:28:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Don't drug women, don't take drinks, b mean de men,

1:28:25.760 --> 1:28:30.000
<v Speaker 2>be rude. Violence is the answer. Kendrick Lamar twenty twenty five.

1:28:30.560 --> 1:28:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Be a hater, call people out, say your shit. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no more in betweens.

1:28:35.760 --> 1:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Fuck anyone, Fuck any turfs, Fuck anyone that is borderline

1:28:41.680 --> 1:28:46.439
<v Speaker 1>excusing or on the press, anything fascism, it's a full revolution,

1:28:46.800 --> 1:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>or they're not in your life no more. I don't

1:28:50.200 --> 1:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>care if you vote him, You're not much across the aisle. No,

1:28:54.960 --> 1:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I don't feel bad for you. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care if you're an uneducated piece of shit. You

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<v Speaker 1>race this motherfuckers, and I hope your kids lose their schools,

1:29:02.000 --> 1:29:04.439
<v Speaker 1>and I hope your family loses their jobs, and I

1:29:04.600 --> 1:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>hope there's no more social Security for you, And then

1:29:07.439 --> 1:29:09.639
<v Speaker 1>I can laugh in your fucking face. I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>bad for any Trump voter that gets fucked over.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I feel bad for the children, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry I do. I think the children the children, the children.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't think children deserve to have no educations, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but listen.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like what I like, and then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have empathy for these people that just want the worst.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what I read like during the Confederacy, like

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<v Speaker 4>the rev you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know that war, the Civil War, that like the most

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<v Speaker 2>people that died fighting for the South for the Confederacy

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<v Speaker 2>were poor whites that couldn't even afford to buy an

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<v Speaker 2>enslaved person, right, yeah, but they were willing to die

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<v Speaker 2>for the rights for rich people to own black people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, this is what we're living in and we

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<v Speaker 1>are still living in that because we've never addressed it

1:29:58.600 --> 1:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>as a nation and it's just like and.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we're seeing now.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have talked about this all the time, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like white people in this country would rather lose,

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<v Speaker 1>would rather their kids not have school, their parents lose

1:30:11.000 --> 1:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>their social security, them lose you know, the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>afford healthcare and grocery. They're willing to fucking suffer, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for black people to not have like it is and

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<v Speaker 1>Mexicans and like any minority.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really hundreds of years of white's willing and we're

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna time.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to we're not going to address it

1:30:35.320 --> 1:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>as a country because it's getting it's like a curriculum.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not talking about it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>How funny that I argued with that dude a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago about how he thought the black dude who thought.

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<v Speaker 4>Of Black History Month was bullshit. Oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 4>know I can't.

1:30:50.040 --> 1:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna see him this week and I'm gonna be like, so,

1:30:51.760 --> 1:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I guess your dream came true. You wanna backpedal? Are

1:30:54.400 --> 1:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you happy about Yeah? You happy about this?

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<v Speaker 2>But it is like the ike of the American It's

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<v Speaker 2>basically just like, as long as a black person doesn't

1:31:05.479 --> 1:31:09.799
<v Speaker 2>have it, like take my teeth, take my take anything

1:31:09.880 --> 1:31:12.720
<v Speaker 2>you want, yeah, take my environment, take it all.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, as long as they don't have it. It's just

1:31:16.160 --> 1:31:17.360
<v Speaker 4>like that.

1:31:17.680 --> 1:31:20.519
<v Speaker 1>The thing about the Civil War really like made it

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<v Speaker 1>so clear for me. Yeah, they were willing to die

1:31:23.600 --> 1:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>for rich people to have slaves. Well yeah, and like

1:31:26.280 --> 1:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I saw this thing on you know install or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>where you know these guys that are like just try

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<v Speaker 1>to go call out conservatives for their hypocrisy.

1:31:34.200 --> 1:31:35.479
<v Speaker 4>All these people waiting in line.

1:31:35.640 --> 1:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like a protest against you know, all the illegal

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants that are killing us and raping us all the time.

1:31:40.520 --> 1:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>They were like, he was like, how many of you

1:31:42.120 --> 1:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>have personally been impacted by illegal immigrants? Not a single

1:31:46.000 --> 1:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>person in this huge thing, not one of them. They're like,

1:31:48.720 --> 1:31:50.439
<v Speaker 1>but they're ruining our country. They're like, but tell me

1:31:50.560 --> 1:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>your personal experience. Nobody you know, because these people are

1:31:55.400 --> 1:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>willing to just go to the mat for whatever. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Their cult leader is saying, anyway, we could do this

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<v Speaker 4>all day. Let's move on to what was Sister peg new.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our weekly segment where we direct you towards

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<v Speaker 1>a resource like a website, an organization, a blog post,

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<v Speaker 1>an article, something to give you more information about what

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about today. And this week we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>point you to an article on the RAIN website. RAIN

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<v Speaker 1>is the rape, Abuse and Incest National network, which we've

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<v Speaker 1>called out before, but they specifically have an article titled

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<v Speaker 1>tips for Safer Online Dating and Dating app use because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, appropriate in this episode, not

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<v Speaker 1>that these women did anything wrong in the episode, but

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, ways to keep yourself keep yourself safe.

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<v Speaker 1>It actually has a lot of helpful ideas for staying

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<v Speaker 1>safe while connecting online, like avoiding sharing live or motion

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<v Speaker 1>photos because those can include geo location information.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>It also has tips on staying safe when you meet

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<v Speaker 1>in person, like don't rely on your date for transportation.

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<v Speaker 1>To read all of their tips, head over to the

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<v Speaker 1>Rain website. That link will obviously be in our stories

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<v Speaker 1>the day this episode comes out, and then saved forever

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<v Speaker 1>in our WWSPD highlight on our Instagram page, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>also of course be in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And next week we will be doing Monsters Legacy and

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<v Speaker 2>that's from season fourteen, episode thirteen, controversial one actually, so

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<v Speaker 2>watch it, don't watch it, but definitely tune in. We're

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with all of you. We are grateful to have

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast, So yeah, thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 4>And sorry, but we're just like you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, Like we're just two girls

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<v Speaker 1>that don't know what the fuck is happening and don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I also then get like I'm a hip

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<v Speaker 4>hop but I'm not doing enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like that's it's designed that way. It's

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<v Speaker 1>designed to make you feel that way. Everybody take care

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<v Speaker 1>of yourselves, fight one cause at a time, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you next week.

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<v Speaker 4>Bye.

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