1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Let's talk about Verizon. A strong fourth quarter is powering 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: Verizon right now. Shares hired to the tune about nine 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: tenths of a percent. The company reported numbers this morning 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: that beat analyssessments. Also saw strong gains in new mobile 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: phone and broadband customers. Let's break it all down the 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: quarter that was and the future with Hans Bessberg. He 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: is Verizon chairman and CEO joining us now, Hans, great 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: to have you with us. Let's go to subscribers, because 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: you reported a net gain of five hundred and sixty 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: eight thousand monthly phone subscribers. The expectation had been for 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: below five hundred thousand. So from where you're sitting, where 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 2: do you think that those gains are coming from? 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: So I think, first of all, we have a great deal, Frank. 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: We had a very strong coarctor both financially and operationally. 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: We added actually one million new postped customer customers on 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: on broadband and why as together and as you right 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: for it said on the wireless side of five hundred 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: and sixty eight thousand, very strong quarter. We have great 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: offerings in the market. We have the best network that 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: is supporting that, and we have gradually improved now we're 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: five six quarter sequentially improvement both operational and financially, So 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: we not only had a great operational quarter, but they 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: also continue to expand our margins and our cash flow 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: for the full year was nineteen point eight billion dollars, 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: So very strong financials with the really solid growth on 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: customers as well. So I think the products resonate with 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: the market today more than ever. I mean, you cannot 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: work live play without mobility and broadband, and I think 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: we are meeting that as the largest carrier in the country. 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: You know, in addition to earnings, you also announced a 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: new AI initiative as well. And how do you feel 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: about the customers that you're bringing on when it comes 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: to AI connect, because is this something that you believe 35 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: will be a significant growth. 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely think about this. I mean, today the majority 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: of the NAI is large language models being developed in 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: enumerous large data centers. When that's going to be applications 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: for enterprises to use, they're going to go further out 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: in the network, both for the transport cost, for privacy, security, latency. 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: We have those assets were compute storage. We're cooling, we 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: have power. We already have that in our system that 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: we can host, and we already now have customers like 44 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: Google Meta that is using our network for their AI work, 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: you know. So this is just the start of it, 46 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: and the second phase is going to be way out 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: in the network and then Verizon, which have fiber across 48 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: the whole concrete, have also space and cooling and as 49 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: well as power. We have a lot of power that 50 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: we can resell as well. So all that is creating 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: a new business for us on existing assets that we 52 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: don't need to develop, they're already there. It's a great 53 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: opportunity with a big announcements of Yenai and data cents 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: in the country, and US is the leader here and 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: will be the winner on GENAI. I think we're a 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: great position to be part of that. Well. 57 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: Hans Corporates vand is the theme of the morning of course, 58 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: with that big announcement from Meadow. When it comes to 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: this opportunity that you see in Ai and you're ambition 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: to be the leader when it comes to gen Ai, 61 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: how much are you willing to devote of Capex to 62 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: that goal? 63 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: So, as I said, the majority of what we have 64 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: we already have done it, deployed one or one fiber strategy, 65 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: so we have fiber going around across the countrete, close 66 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: to data centers, close to all the enterprises. We already 67 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: have space, we have capacity or power that we can reuse. 68 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: So much what we have is already invested. So we 69 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: think about the second part of JNAI when the large 70 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: language models are already developed and you need to be 71 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: closer to the user, the company, the enterprise, or whatever 72 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: it might be, and there were well positioned. We already 73 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: have revenues from it today. We had in the fourth quarter. 74 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Even though we're small, we're now ramping that up and 75 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: that's why we were announced today AI Connect, which is 76 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: our product and solution for this. 77 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: I'm also just curious about regular way Internet because if 78 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: you look at the Internet subscribers that you brought on 79 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: the rise or it was a decline from a year ago, 80 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: but it was more than what analysts expected, and so 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: what does that mean about the prospects of the people 82 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: you are bringing on and what it means for the 83 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: upcoming quarters. 84 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: So I think that our broadband strategy that we laid 85 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: out in the third quarter is really resonating with the market. 86 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: We have two great products, where the fiber products called files, 87 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: which is the I would say the highest quality fiber 88 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: product in the market. We have great success with that. 89 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: We added fifty thousand new customers in the quarker. Then 90 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: we have fixed wiles Access, which is a totally different 91 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: model where your self installed, you have great performance, high 92 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: customer satisfaction. We add the more than three hundred, three 93 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: hundred seventy thousand of those in the quarter. So all 94 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: that product is going into next year and or twenty five. 95 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: We're already next year to fortify that. And then we 96 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: have our pending acquisition or Frontier that is adding even 97 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: more fiber customers. So our broadband strategy is clear. We're 98 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: taking share at the moment, and we think we can 99 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: continue to do that into twenty five. 100 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the share price a little bit, because 101 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: I'm taking a look over the past five years and 102 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: I see Forizon shares down about thirteen percent on a 103 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: total return basis. Hopefully we'll have that chart up and 104 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: I want to ask CONTs, I mean, what do you 105 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: think that investors are missing when it comes to your 106 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: story and why are we seeing this sort of sideways 107 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: chop when it comes to your shares. 108 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: I think if you look at share price, I mean 109 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: it's always a lot of different combinations. I think we 110 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: of course invested heavily in the five E and the Spectrum, 111 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: and or we took on a lot of debt during 112 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: the Spectrum acquisitions in twenty nineteen. Now we're working that down. 113 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: We're almost down to our death leverage of two point 114 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: twenty five on debt too beta, so we are actually 115 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: paying that down. So I think that our capital location 116 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: has been heavy to build a network and now getting 117 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: leverage on that, and that's what you see, and that's 118 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: I hope our shareholders will see that that growth factory 119 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: can continue and we get leverage on it. Secondly, we 120 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: are on the eighteenth year of increasing our dividend. I 121 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: mean there are not many companies are doing that and 122 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: are of course our yield is high today given that 123 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: the share price is a little bit subdue, but I 124 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: think that's what our shareholders should see and the prospect 125 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: of shareholders both that the dividend has been super stable 126 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: and growing and then now we're also continue to grow 127 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: both operationally and financially. So I have high ambitions here 128 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: and I hope that every stakeholder going to see that. 129 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: Certainly, the deat load was something investors were keeping an 130 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: eye on, and as you have made a lot of 131 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: progress in terms of reducing that load, I do still 132 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: wonder you had come off an announcement of a massive acquisition. 133 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: Do you see more potential acquisitions if you're able to 134 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: tap the capital markets or find it otherwise? Wondering what 135 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: your inclination here is to do more to expand your 136 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: reach to mergers and acquisitions. 137 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: So our strateted is pretty simple. We build one network 138 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: and we want as many profitable connections on top of 139 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: it any type of the segments of the market. Today, 140 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: we're are the number one on wireless. We have a 141 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: nationwide so we already have it, so now it's just 142 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: to continue to get leverage on on broadband. We just 143 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: acquired or in the process acquiring Frontier, we have a 144 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: great broad and offering. We're planning to address one hundred 145 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: million households with our broadband offering. So I think we're 146 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: sitting really good with assets we have, and that's what 147 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: I want to execute on. As a CEO, you can 148 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: never say you're never going to do an acquisition. But 149 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: clearly we have all the assets right now, and now 150 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: we are in execution mood, and see that we leverage that. 151 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: All right, Hans really appreciate your time. That is Hans' 152 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: best or of Horizon