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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Bust with

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Speaker 1: the Boys, Episode two oh seven.

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Speaker 2: You might be a little worried.

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Speaker 1: You might be seeing this wide frame right now and

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Speaker 1: not seeing my boy Will Compton. We're not supposed to

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Speaker 1: start filming for another fifteen minutes, but we all get

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Speaker 1: on the bus, we're sitting here. I just think to myself,

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Speaker 1: why not pretend like we're starting our episode, starting our intro,

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Speaker 1: and then when Will gets here, see just how he

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Speaker 1: handles the adversity, See how he sits down, how he's

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Speaker 1: gonna react to, Hey, these boys start without me. Does

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Speaker 1: he feel some type of way of it or does

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Speaker 1: he internalize it? It could go either way. How we

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Speaker 1: feel boys, Do we think he's gonna make a big

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Speaker 1: fuss over it, or do we think he's gonna internalize.

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Speaker 3: He's for sure gonna be like, dude, we talked about

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Speaker 3: starting at noon, so long if he shows up afternoon,

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Speaker 3: then we're good.

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Speaker 2: Our big runs. But if he shows up before noon,

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Speaker 2: he's like, dude, we had a said time.

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Speaker 1: I know, but if I just say, hey, we were

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Speaker 1: all here, yeah, you play like it's nothing for a second.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it looked like he was kind of kind

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Speaker 3: of aggravated this morning on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: He got after that one. He got after Buddy on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: You get see.

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Speaker 3: I think it was like an early morning. They roue

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Speaker 3: woke up little too early. Yeah, pop up early. I

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Speaker 3: had a tough day. The tough day, say Mitchie if

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Speaker 3: you're not talkingally speaking to the mic.

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Speaker 4: So I can't Uh was in the ilt like I

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Speaker 4: saw her?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But I did a video driving with Mike in the

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Speaker 1: car and I got slaughtered for it. So it's like

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Speaker 1: it's one of this one of those deals. Sometimes I

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Speaker 1: was driving down Eighth Avenue going to get my haircut,

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Speaker 1: going to get this mullet, and people were like, how

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Speaker 1: about let's talk about your kid in the back of

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Speaker 1: the car. Meanwhile, by the way, two weeks ago, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting murdered for not having trigger discipline, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I'm a fucking idiot for that. Like I that is

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Speaker 1: truly something I had no idea about.

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Speaker 2: I'm better for it now.

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Speaker 1: But let's take a gander at that, Like, maybe we

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Speaker 1: should all have a little more lessons on firearm safety.

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Speaker 1: My right bloss Boss is a big proponent of putting

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Speaker 1: more rules on getting a gun in this country. He

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Speaker 1: is not a big Second Amendment guy. Is that not true?

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Speaker 2: I'm a big Second Amendment gut canceled.

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Speaker 1: Got him, got him voiced.

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Speaker 2: We got it.

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Speaker 1: We got what we needed. We got what we needed

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Speaker 1: before uh before I know holding it, and honestly I was,

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Speaker 1: I was holding a different to a low key the shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of good mobility in the shoulder.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the episode with Jeffrey Starr when we

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Speaker 1: went to it. We actually went to his house and

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Speaker 1: we did everything. It's in bus scenes right now. You

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Speaker 1: can find that. But I don't even know how much

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Speaker 1: of this we're going to keep in it because this

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Speaker 1: is all a ploy on how to get Will. But

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Speaker 1: if he shows up in the next five minutes, great.

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Speaker 1: What we were talking about before that, though, is I

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Speaker 1: sent a dick pic to the boys the other day.

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Speaker 1: Not like a full mass you got like the Eiffel Tower. Look,

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Speaker 1: we were at the base trying to look up where

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Speaker 1: you make it look real good? You all know what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about, dude. The snapchatters out there, Yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: you take that fucking thing. When you get that where

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Speaker 1: has a shadow cast over it? You know, get a

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Speaker 1: big light put it in the side, so that thing

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Speaker 1: just look scargantuan. I stepped on the scale and it

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Speaker 1: was like two seventy one, and I just took a

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Speaker 1: picture but barely got the little head of my peep

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Speaker 1: in it. Once I got the head of my peep

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Speaker 1: in it, I took a picture of it. Send it

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Speaker 1: to Will Well didn't even fucking know Uely, Oh, bro,

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Speaker 1: look how much our way? He goes, Oh, I would

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Speaker 1: guess two sixty five. You look so small. And then

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Speaker 1: when I I lily called Will told him, hey, buddy,

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Speaker 1: you do you not see my dick in that photo?

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Speaker 2: He looks at it and he starts laughing.

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Speaker 1: And then ten seconds later we got the phoney text

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Speaker 1: you boys, what did he say?

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Speaker 2: Talking to Mike bitch?

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Speaker 5: He said, you, guys, how much do you think Taylor

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Speaker 5: Taylor wads closest person?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I said, do you guys guess a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But it's by the way, Jack, you would

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Speaker 1: have got that fifty bucks you said two seventy one,

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Speaker 1: didn't you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with that Bill is just a liar. He's all tough.

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Speaker 2: It was to seventy one point.

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Speaker 1: It'll come, dude, It'll come.

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Speaker 2: With your per diem when we get to Vegas. This

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Speaker 2: that's all I wanted. Yeah, on the credit line.

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Speaker 1: You put it on the credit line, dude. For those

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Speaker 1: of you I don't like. Like I said before, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this is going in the episode, but we

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Speaker 1: are going to Vegas this weekend. Our merch is out there.

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Speaker 1: Saint Patti's Day. If you're listening to this episode now

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, spoiler alert, you're probably not gonna get it

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Speaker 1: because we don't have the business day work. Things can happen.

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Speaker 1: They literally put guys on bikes from New York. I guess,

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Speaker 1: just to send out merchandise to all you guys.

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Speaker 2: But get it.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, because you're gonna have You're gonna be setting ready

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Speaker 1: to go for next year. And then you got a

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Speaker 1: vintage team. Now you have the new Boy, and that's great.

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Speaker 1: But a year from now people be like, oh you

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Speaker 1: got the new thing. Yeah, this was last year. That's

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Speaker 1: how long I've been listening.

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Speaker 2: To the pod.

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Speaker 1: Little more notes, a little more something to think about.

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Speaker 1: Three hundred thousand subscribers. Boys, that is outstanding. What a

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Speaker 1: fucking deal. Well and I both gave you guys flowers

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Speaker 1: via the bird, But I do want to let you know,

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Speaker 1: like this seriously is because of you guys. Without you,

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Speaker 1: guys subscribing, unsubscribing and resubscribing, doing the payoff forward method

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Speaker 1: where you're telling two people who tell two people who

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Speaker 1: tell two people, going down and down and down the road,

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Speaker 1: like this bus would be nothing, dude. We have literally

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Speaker 1: just a couple of voices and four absolutely talented studs

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Speaker 1: in the back that are digitally putting our shit together.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, we would be nothing without you guys.

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much for just standing by us.

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Speaker 1: Am I right, my right, boys there it is a man.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I like that, dude. So that's what we're That's what

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Speaker 1: we're fucking dealing with. Now we're gonna pause it and

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Speaker 1: wait for Will to get here. I'm nervous, Yeah, I'm nervous.

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Speaker 1: You know, you feel it? How long do we let

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Speaker 2: Well, well, hey we'll feel that out. Yeah we'll feel

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll feel that out for sure. I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: talking about I'll start talking about Kirk Cousins once he

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Speaker 1: walks in. And then as I'm talking about Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 1: you say, hey, should we do a little tear top

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Speaker 1: before we hit the episode? Oh yeah, shure, we've read

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, boys, Like I said, we're gonna keep

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Speaker 1: it short today. It has been a phenomenal time this

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Speaker 1: seventeen minutes with you, this episode this week is Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: Guy is a fucking stud.

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Speaker 2: Before we get there, we need to do tear talk.

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Speaker 2: He's not wrong. We gotta do.

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Speaker 1: Look who made it boys? Will Compton's here the episode

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Speaker 1: without the boys. We said we were all here. We

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Speaker 1: thought we just get it going real quick.

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Speaker 2: I got you, I got you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we got we just were seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to do a tier talk with the boys?

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Speaker 1: What's the tiar talk? Tear Talk's gonna be a favorite

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Speaker 1: albums of all time.

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Speaker 2: Let me do research. I love it.

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Speaker 1: For those of you that have been with us for

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Speaker 1: those seventeen minutes of this podcast, you just saw Will

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Speaker 1: Compton's mental fortitude. He just walked onto the bus after

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Speaker 1: pulling up on time, thinking we started an episode without him,

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Speaker 1: trying to prank Will Compton. Yet you fucking didn't flinch, unfazed,

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Speaker 6: You gotta you gotta be able to control your emotions,

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Speaker 6: you and you control the hell of them. There there's

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Speaker 6: whatever the boy said fun.

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Speaker 2: They had fun, they did it. It's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we didn't start the episode, we would have

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Speaker 1: gotten the bus. We're like, hey, boys, welcome to the episode.

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Speaker 1: It's episode two o seven with Kirk Cousins. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: wait and we're gonna prank Will as if we've been

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Speaker 1: doing the episode for seventeen minutes.

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Speaker 6: Now, you guys did a good job. The seventeen minutes

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Speaker 6: thought I might have just started by myself. Seventeen minutes.

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Speaker 6: I was like, so we're doing okay?

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Speaker 2: You actually felt some type of way. Well, I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get a heads up because I think there

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Speaker 1: was I mean, all of us really thought that he

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Speaker 1: was gonna make it more of a stink about it, right,

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of a stink. But with that

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Speaker 1: We can do in the beginning of episode for those

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Speaker 1: horribly wrong on Will there's a reason why it's.

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Speaker 2: Because nor how long has it been going? What will?

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Speaker 2: We covered?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: We covered nothing. You want to know? We covered nothing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We literally talked about ship and we talked about yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: small dick energy, which, by the way, I do have

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Speaker 1: a small one.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: It's no, it's not it's not strong, it's nice. Oh okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about which is all? Which is all

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Speaker 1: going to go on the deleted scenes part, By the way,

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Speaker 1: we are going to When you're taking a piss and

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Speaker 1: you're sitting on the toilet and you pee, sometimes do

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Speaker 1: you pee through the gap between the the lid and

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Speaker 1: the seat or the seat and the actual toilet. You

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Speaker 1: don't got a little dick? Then?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I got no, no, no, no, no, hang on, no,

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Speaker 2: it's all right.

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of you.

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Speaker 2: I got a little dick, you got you got a

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Speaker 2: big dick?

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Speaker 6: No, oh no no, because when I when I'm peeing,

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Speaker 6: like you're pushing the boy down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, see that's kind the sometimes I let that

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Speaker 1: thing just kind of rat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, if I'm not if I'm never, if I'm never

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Speaker 6: like not pushing. It's because I'm rocked up and I

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Speaker 1: We've thought, we covered that too. We covered that too.

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Speaker 1: All that will be on the back of the episode. Boys,

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Speaker 1: Oh dude, speaking of being tight, dude, you fucking took

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm fired up posting this thing on YouTube.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because there was the element that thing was more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we were all part of us didn't want

438
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Speaker 2: to do like, didn't want to take that and make

439
00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,560
Speaker 2: it our own thing.

440
00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,040
Speaker 6: Obviously we ended up going with with the Boys, but

441
00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,960
Speaker 6: we were trying to find titles that was away from

442
00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,760
Speaker 6: having to use for the Boys because we just kind

443
00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,720
Speaker 6: of felt we were in our heads to bite and

444
00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,320
Speaker 6: like we were taking advantage of something that we were

445
00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,160
Speaker 6: doing with the locker room.

446
00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,000
Speaker 1: And there was even like some like discomfort with the bus,

447
00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,080
Speaker 1: Like I was all on the bus right away, you

448
00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,680
Speaker 1: were kind of like more iffy, like hey, like, I

449
00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,679
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know about it. Yeah, because when

450
00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,760
Speaker 1: we saw the bus, I literally sat up like Will

451
00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,680
Speaker 1: said this, and I doubled down on it, like if way,

452
00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm buying this bus, whether we use it for a

453
00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,280
Speaker 1: podcast or not, like, yeah, two.

454
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,880
Speaker 2: Grand for this thing? Are you kidding me? Yeah?

455
00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,120
Speaker 6: Because when we were when we were working with a cardboard,

456
00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,600
Speaker 6: They're like, hey, what do you think about this bus

457
00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,520
Speaker 6: in the back, And I was like, I'm gonna be honest,

458
00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,840
Speaker 6: I don't want to do it at all, but we'll

459
00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,119
Speaker 6: wait till Taylor gets here. Because I was actually your

460
00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,480
Speaker 6: first time coming back in April, yeah, and we were

461
00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,080
Speaker 6: about to start putting the podcast together and I was like,

462
00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,920
Speaker 6: but I know when Taylor gets here, he's probably gonna

463
00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,200
Speaker 6: want to do it, so let's just wait to see

464
00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,960
Speaker 6: what he says. When he gets here, you go out back,

465
00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,000
Speaker 6: you're falling in love with him?

466
00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:49,439
Speaker 1: Oh bro?

467
00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:49,920
Speaker 2: I was.

468
00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,640
Speaker 1: I was Henna, like, holy fuck, look at this thing. Yeah,

469
00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,240
Speaker 1: there's a piece of gold just sitting in the back

470
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,920
Speaker 1: that no one was touching. And I was like, hey,

471
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,000
Speaker 1: look bro, I'll put in twelve grand if it works.

472
00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,080
Speaker 2: Awesome. If it doesn't, I'll sit the thing in my backyard. Yeah.

473
00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,959
Speaker 6: So I'm like all right, and you're like, I think

474
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,040
Speaker 6: we can get this done in two We are because

475
00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,320
Speaker 6: we were like we needed a space. It's like I

476
00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,520
Speaker 6: get it where you're back in April, but you're gonna

477
00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,680
Speaker 6: be doing OTAs because at that point we were just

478
00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,639
Speaker 6: wanting to do the podcast around football, not during not.

479
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,560
Speaker 2: Like we're gonna do it off season.

480
00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,560
Speaker 6: If I'm just thinking like dude, this is gonna like

481
00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,479
Speaker 6: take a minute, like we're already we've already lost three

482
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,479
Speaker 6: or four months. We've been waiting on you to get here.

483
00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,560
Speaker 6: Now you want to build out this fucking bus. That's

484
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,480
Speaker 6: even gonna take more time when we can start backlocking episodes.

485
00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,240
Speaker 6: But you're like you said I think you said like

486
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,440
Speaker 6: ten days, twelve days.

487
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we talked about who is that what's that

488
00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,720
Speaker 1: guy's name that did it for us, and he was like,

489
00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,800
Speaker 1: I can get this done for you guys, and less

490
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,880
Speaker 1: pissed off this I know it's breaking my heart. Once

491
00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,560
Speaker 1: we know, we'll definitely reach out because God damn, and

492
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,080
Speaker 1: he does like Carpendi work ed Redgwood, Houston. Great fucking

493
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 1: dude told him. I was like, how much you think

494
00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:51,680
Speaker 1: it would cost? Paying you?

495
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,320
Speaker 2: What's that buss? The documentary? I almost just hated because

496
00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,199
Speaker 2: we were also we were also boys. Yeah we we are.

497
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:00,800
Speaker 2: We are bosing.

498
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,159
Speaker 1: He made me a chicken coop that I still have

499
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 1: been picked up from him four years ago. Yeah, loading dot.

500
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 1: I can't remember his name. Awesome dude. He looks like,

501
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,160
Speaker 1: so I think Jeff. It might be Jeff. Yeah, Jeff,

502
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 1: let's say Jeff Jeff.

503
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:13,960
Speaker 2: So Jeff it is.

504
00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,320
Speaker 1: Well, we talked to Jeff and I go up to

505
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 1: him and I'm like, hey, how long do you think

506
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,680
Speaker 1: to take take the like soundproof, like get this thing ready?

507
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 2: So I do an episode and at the time as

508
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,520
Speaker 2: fast as possible.

509
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,639
Speaker 1: We were like willing to pay more to get it

510
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 1: done faster. Bro, when we I hope do we have

511
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:29,159
Speaker 1: a photo?

512
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 2: What do you what? Did Jack say? Nothing that would

513
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,640
Speaker 2: be a good super short just let it ride. Check

514
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 2: out our instagram.

515
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,880
Speaker 6: Yeah this such a cut said asap, as fast as possible.

516
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 2: God damn.

517
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,360
Speaker 1: But when we had this bus, like when we first

518
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 1: got it, I hope we have a photo of it.

519
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 1: But there was like chairs and like wasp nests be

520
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 1: bro like crazy ship.

521
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,639
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, we need to bring a priest in

522
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 2: here and exercise this place.

523
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 1: No, it was you could tell like some demon ship.

524
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 4: It went on.

525
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had to burn some stage, do some shit

526
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 1: like that in here because it was fucking wild. And

527
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: Buddy was like, yeah, I get this on ten days.

528
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 1: We are you serious? And I literally went to home

529
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 1: depot that day and picked out the flooring and the

530
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 1: color for the walls. Right, yeah, yeah, I remember that.

531
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 1: And he's like, we got to do soundproffing. That was

532
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 1: a cardboard. They're like, you have to do some sort

533
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 1: of soundproofing because the metal will.

534
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,239
Speaker 2: Radiate too much.

535
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 1: Radiate, bounce off the bounce off off the metal, say radiate, dude,

536
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 1: We'll fucking we'll say radiate. But yeah, dude, we do

537
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 1: have a little documentary on Busting with the Boys, don't we.

538
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you're not subscribing, you just go on our

539
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,919
Speaker 6: pages and that the video that's up documentary.

540
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,120
Speaker 2: That's so funny, dude.

541
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 1: I did see a clip because when I saw the

542
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand subscribers, I was looking for the photo

543
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: from your birthday when I pinned you up against there,

544
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: I was there's.

545
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,679
Speaker 2: Your birthday, slapping you up a little bit.

546
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: And I was looking for that and I found us

547
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 1: with Roman Yosi talking about giving computers aids from looking

548
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 1: at so much porn. And it was just me doing

549
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: a bit of like four days going hand on this

550
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: computer and like, yeah, weird shit popping up up, take

551
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 1: an appearance.

552
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that interview too.

553
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 6: That was actually when they were going around the locker

554
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 6: room and talking about what for the boys meant because

555
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 6: who was it, Uh was Richard Ard Matthews, Yeah, had

556
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 6: just left the team or something like that, and and

557
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 6: Paul Karski was kind of making a deal about it.

558
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he he was like, uh, Paul was like, oh,

559
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: he's not for the boys because he left he retired

560
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 1: or quit or whatever. And I somehow was like, he's

561
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: still for the boys. Yeah, you know, because at that

562
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: point everything is for the boys. The whole team was

563
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: saying for the boys. Like interviews dudes were just saying

564
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 1: for the boys.

565
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

566
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a cool time, dude, that was a

567
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: very cool time. Then we fell apart. Yep, then we

568
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: fell apart.

569
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: But Richard, I mean he basically he got a PD

570
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 1: like two weeks later he did Uh No, that was.

571
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 6: That was next year. That was the next year, was it? Yeah,

572
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 6: unless you knew in season that the next year you're

573
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 6: gonna get in trouble.

574
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: No, was it twenty nineteen or twenty eighteen we started

575
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: this The season that we had that was for the

576
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: Boys was twenty eighteen my first year here, Yeah what

577
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but like that, and then the next off

578
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 1: season when the podcast.

579
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: Right, I was my bad.

580
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: My timeline was mixed up because here we're talking about

581
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: wiping yeah, which we actually were just having that conversation.

582
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: You guys will see at the end of this podcast

583
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: when we're trying to prank Will and did a phenomenal

584
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 1: job of not fucking flinching, bro, not a flinch type

585
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: of dude. Thank you for going back in memory lane

586
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: with us. Is there anything else you want to say

587
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: about it before we change the subjects.

588
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: We're sure I did quit on us. He really did.

589
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: He retired on the boy. You know, he just straight

590
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: up quit. Dude. I get there. He was our best

591
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 2: receiver at the time, Like I.

592
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: Get any of the business side that goes into it.

593
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 1: Every player is an individual contractor.

594
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 6: Like there is a selfish element of playing but when

595
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 6: you're in it, like being before the boys and the

596
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 6: boys are what matter like and that's a party, you

597
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 6: essentially quit the boy.

598
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: And it was like week eight too, like, bro, we're halfway. Yeah,

599
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: Like if you add camp and eight weeks of the season,

600
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: you're more than halfway.

601
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 2: Like yeah, fuck dude. He was with the boy in

602
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: the locker room. He was always like really he would

603
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: say some wild, wild wild.

604
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 6: One of those guys who was like because he'd always

605
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 6: bring a big ass speaker everywhere, even in the shower.

606
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd have it set up like a massive my

607
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: man did not want to be alone with his own thoughts. No,

608
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: he had to have that music up for something like that.

609
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, you uh d Matthews.

610
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: But he was like seven more weeks. Totally quit on us.

611
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: He totally quit on it.

612
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: Left the boys.

613
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: He bounce, but he bounced, He bounced, and I was

614
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: trying to sing your praises during but he.

615
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: You did that.

616
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 6: That was when all the boys are staying strong, too strong.

617
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 6: Paul was the evil villain.

618
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember he was taking pictures like look at these

619
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: quotes around He's like, is this for the boys, because

620
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: he was you know, Paul's always trying to find He's

621
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: always trying to find something ill. Yeah, and you can

622
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: kind of watch like the turbulence that Paul's had playing

623
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: that role for so long.

624
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: He can't be an asshole. Yeah forever.

625
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, you threw a wild shot at

626
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: him the other night, did you like it? Wild shot?

627
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: Is it a good one? Like I smiled, I'm like,

628
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: you have to yeah, But I also that's Paul and

629
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: Paul and I actually have a good reationship.

630
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: Like we would talk. He'd be very candid with me.

631
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: I'd be very candid with him, but like, and I

632
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: would always tell me, you're like, you are the guy

633
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: like the stars up. You are the villain of the

634
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: locker room before COVID hit and we weren't allowed to

635
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: have anybody in there. Now they can have the media

636
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: in the locker room. But yeah, Paul just saying shit

637
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,719
Speaker 1: about Jeffrey Simmons's like, bro, who like that is legitimately

638
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: a strategic thing that agents tell you, Hey, you can

639
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: do you can do this, you can do that, you

640
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: can delete all the photos off your off your page

641
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: of the team, like, because the whole goal of that

642
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: for Jeffrey Simmons to take all the photos off is

643
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: to cause a stir within the.

644
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: Fan based community.

645
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: Fan based community gets outraged, just like we saw with

646
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: Derek Henry a couple of days ago.

647
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: We see a thing.

648
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: Derek is on the trading block, the Titans are moving

649
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: a moving Derek. The whole fucking Nashville world exploded. If

650
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: this fucking happens, I'm done, My PSLs are over, We're

651
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: fucking over it, all that shit, and then the next day,

652
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: look what happened. Oh, it's actually not a reliable source.

653
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: It's not gonna actually be a thing. Jeff his situation.

654
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: I it's a little more fifty fifty where like people

655
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: like childish as fuck and also like people like do

656
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: something times do something about it. But it is a

657
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: strategic plan that agents and other people put in your

658
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: head when you're trying to get that new contract, which

659
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Speaker 1: we all know that Jeff deserves.

660
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's a fair point.

661
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Speaker 6: It's like, if you're strictly looking at it objectively from

662
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 6: a business standpoint, it does seem because I can you

663
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 6: you know, you're like, you know why, you know why

664
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 6: you delete all that stuff off?

665
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, when you bring up the strategy behind and

666
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: everything else.

667
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 6: It's almost like you do cause that little bit of

668
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 6: a voice in the fan base community, which is like

669
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Speaker 6: a public perception thing, which is which is like a

670
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Speaker 6: small piece of trying to create some type of whether

671
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 6: it's leverage or that is an element you know in

672
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 6: the whole negotiation. Is you want, you know, you want

673
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Speaker 6: to show the fans like, hey, if you feel like

674
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 6: you're being done wrong. I'm not saying that that's what's happening,

675
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 6: but it's just a little element to move on the

676
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 6: chess board to try and cause that little stir to

677
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 6: get the fan base, you.

678
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: Know, by the fan base more kind of on your

679
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: side as a player.

680
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, because people do feel pressure. The power of social media.

681
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: Owner see it, GM, see it, Coach, you see it.

682
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: We all know.

683
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: Rabel is probably on Twitter right now as I'm speaking. Yeah,

684
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: he fucking loves Twitter. He is all about toss a

685
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: body bag out there. Oh yeah, and it's probably gonna

686
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: be you or me. At any moment. Did I feel

687
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: like I can get got by Rabel anything? Yeah, I'm

688
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: not even that we're not even the team anymore. Not

689
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: just randomly.

690
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 6: He was at the combine and he sends a selfie

691
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 6: with him in some linebacker and and all says is

692
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 6: finding your replacement.

693
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't even been on the team in a minute.

694
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: Did you tell me two years? Yeah?

695
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 6: Like, did you tell me the best the best player

696
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 6: you've ever coached? And he goes he loves you. But

697
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 6: you know, I don't know whyle I was saying that.

698
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: It's crazy if Abel didn't want to answer that question.

699
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: He did, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he didn't even say that question.

700
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Speaker 6: But a it's dope that these fucking like the generation

701
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 6: of these collegiate athletes are getting there saying that, you know,

702
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 6: because Bray's probably thinking, like, what do you love?

703
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 2: Complke? What do you do? You know what I mean?

704
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: You know, Yo, that's fucking tough to hear you say

705
00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: about yourself.

706
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 4: I know, but what do you do?

707
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 6: If there's one team where I didn't do a lot

708
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 6: on it was the Titans. Yeah, like the Raiders, I

709
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 6: got to play and start and to have a role.

710
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 6: I did start against the Colts, basically started against the Broncos. Right,

711
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 6: but we're not but not an optimal not an optimal

712
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 6: situations Matt, Yeah, fair, No, No, I guess what I'm

713
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 6: talking about is the role I felt like I was

714
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 6: in the Titans.

715
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: We're different than the roles.

716
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: I felt like I was in with the with the

717
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: you were started at the Redskins, you were started at

718
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: the Raiders, like I was a guy that was starting

719
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: on Rabel.

720
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Speaker 6: If there was never that kind of relationship, that collaborative

721
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 6: relationship from coach to linebacker, like hey, how we scheme

722
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 6: and stuff like that.

723
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Speaker 2: Throw Will in there, you know what I mean? No, dude,

724
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: they Ravens, No game, Ravens.

725
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: I got the clips if you fucking you in the

726
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: playoff game?

727
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 2: Uh no, no, no, not that one I'm talking about.

728
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 6: Remember when I got cut and then I got put

729
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 6: on prank squad and then jay On Hurd his elbow?

730
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, do you remember that that one? And

731
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: then I got to start from the Colts the next

732
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: week there yeah, O VMO twitch but Rabels at all

733
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Speaker 2: to save Rabel's an elite ball bust. It's basically what

734
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: it was. The selfie hey, finding your replacement.

735
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: Going back to what you're saying about the combine, do

736
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: when I was on the field during the combine with

737
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: Joe and stuff like that, I'm like, literally with Joe Thomas,

738
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: who is a we'll have a Hall of Fame jacket

739
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: around his shoulders. Come August and dudes are like the boy.

740
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: It's like jogging by after a drill. Dudes are about it.

741
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: You touched your leg?

742
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: No I didn't.

743
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: I sang that man's praise. He's a stud.

744
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 6: He is. I mean, he's a fucking hate a stance.

745
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 6: The can't fucking stand the way. The goat is Joe Thomas,

746
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 6: the goat of all losers. Yeah, there's no question, you

747
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 6: know what I mean.

748
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: I was immediately about to say no, because I think

749
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: Trent Trent is the goat offensive lineman.

750
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 6: All right, but I'm talking about just the most loser

751
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 6: franchise that like he had to sit there and just

752
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 6: be on this team and be the best player on

753
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 6: the team for how many years?

754
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: Double years? He played ten years? And then Barry Sanders

755
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: might have something to say about that too.

756
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, fair, who's more like I would have been a

757
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 6: ball player, though, say that question in a full sentence.

758
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 6: Is Joe Thomas the goat of all losers? And clip

759
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 6: put it out there and clip yeah, rip it out

760
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 6: there in consecutive Pro Bowl and I would, uh, I

761
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 6: wonder what the best record the Brown said during his

762
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 6: whole time there.

763
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 5: Look up, Look that up, look a look that up.

764
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 5: Let's use the computer. He started those however many years

765
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 5: he played. He started every single game in a row,

766
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 5: never missed a game.

767
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten thousand and sixty seven snaps. You know who

768
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: saw his life snap me? I was on the field.

769
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: Pull up that clip too, and you're trying. Yeah, you're

770
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: trying to you try to go get him little last

771
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: or something like bro. We started talking about that during

772
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: the UH during the broadcast of the NFL Plus at

773
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: the Combine, I started to telling that story, and Joe's

774
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: all smiles because we were joking about how like he's like,

775
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: you're the last person to touch me when I played,

776
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's probably the most embarrassing

777
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: moment in my NFL career. By the way, been knocked

778
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: out twice twenty two jcls like that was way more embarrassing.

779
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: He's like fifteen yards away from me, and as he's

780
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: getting up, I jog out there and he jogs.

781
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: Away from me. I'm like, get a little get a

782
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: little whisp of the middle finger on the back of

783
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: his cheek. Dude didn't jog back, bucket. Yeah, Joe Thomas

784
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: and his year career.

785
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: I believe it when when was his first year and

786
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: seven twenty seventeen and two thousand and seven was their

787
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: only winning season at ten and six, and then his

788
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: final season with the Browns.

789
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: They were oh and sixteen. Yeah, but yeah, only winning

790
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: season was his rookie only winning season.

791
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 6: Since is your rookie year and think about it, you

792
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 6: get drafted, you go ten and six your rookie year,

793
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 6: You're like, don't worry.

794
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: You know that after that last game, Hey, don't worry boys,

795
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: we'll be back. We're building something. Yeah, we're building something special. Yeah.

796
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: Man, that fucking sucks. Now. You guys have heard the

797
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: story about Joe almost getting traded to the Broncos. Remind

798
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: us so it's uh the deadline of the trading deadlines,

799
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: like week eight of the NFL season, and apparently Peyton

800
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: Manning called Joe Thomas was like, hey, I need somebody.

801
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna win a Super Bowl this year. We want

802
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: to trade for you, and I've heard we can we

803
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: can clarify with Joe. Joe is the GM of the

804
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: Browns said, please don't trade me. So the GM of

805
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: the Browns put in the trade paper fax machine whatever

806
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: it is, like five minutes after the deadline ended, so

807
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: it didn't actually go through and made it a mistake,

808
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: so he could stay on the Browns really and.

809
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 6: He would have won a super Bowl vaguely, yeah, because

810
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 6: I think it might have been you who were Who's

811
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 6: telling me that? Because then I was like, man, what

812
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 6: if somebody like hey, I think I played the role

813
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 6: of like Patrick Mahomes calls like, hey, let's go get

814
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 6: this super Bowl?

815
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: You see the Chiefs? I did see that. What's what's

816
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: the what's the what's the eyes there with the Chiefs?

817
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: You know you dropped the eyes late night text right

818
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: late night?

819
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: Little deal? What's thet I does know that Alanda Brown

820
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: is now testing free agency. They didn't tag him either.

821
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: They didn't tag him. Yeah, that's why he's testing free agent.

822
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: So it is gonna be a bit of a deal.

823
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: We'll see.

824
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: I know there was like a couple of conversations in

825
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: the beginning, you know, and he left tackle. I wonder

826
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: if it's number seventy seven is available?

827
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: Look that up. No, he wasn't. He was Andrew Wiley

828
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 2: is seventy seven there?

829
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 8: Huh?

830
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: You think Andrew handed over? I think Wiley get a

831
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: bag coming towards him for that number. Like, there's a

832
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: handful of teams that are seriously interesting to me.

833
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 6: The Chiefs are one of them, absolutely, because they could

834
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 6: basically check all those boxes are looking like at a

835
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 6: Super Bowl super Bowl less.

836
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Team contender Wiley were talk about number seventy seven and

837
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The negative comments I saw of those like

838
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: two hundred whatever comments was no, you're not on the field,

839
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, we're not paying you, pois. I'm gonna

840
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: let you get a little secret. The contract I would

841
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: get is not gonna be a big number contracts similar

842
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: to mine. It would be relative. It would be closer

843
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: to yours than it was to my old one. Yo.

844
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, okay, easy, Oh yeah, yeah, for sure,

845
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: no fucking question.

846
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: Broucke.

847
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there would be incentives, would be incentives, and

848
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: your boys, hey, I'm all about chasing it.

849
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: That would be a two contending podcasts and the same

850
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: team together.

851
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: Though. What an awesome situation for a little collap Travis,

852
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: big fan of Travis and for Rader Nation.

853
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 6: We'd finally have somebody on the inside of that organization. Yeah,

854
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 6: the franchise both of us. Yeah, because they know the rules.

855
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 6: You want me I take will exactly, and you'll play.

856
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 6: You'll play for minimum. Oh yeah, Sonning. You know my incentives,

857
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 6: all of some incentives. Yeah, yeah, what's the incentive I

858
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 6: entied to yours? So we'll have to look at your

859
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 6: incentives and be like, all right, how should we break

860
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 6: this up?

861
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? If you that's a good thing to put them on.

862
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: My contract negotiation is like if Taylor plays ninety percent

863
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: of the snaps, Taylor gets an extra million. We'll get

864
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: another two hundred thousand. If I make sixteen starts, well

865
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: we'll get a million, Taylor gets two thousands.

866
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 6: I'll be in with the boys, Uh Willie Gay and

867
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 6: Bolton fake that fake gay neg dude, and you know

868
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 6: I'll be singing from the from the mountaintops.

869
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: We get the best linebacker corn in the leak because

870
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: those dudes are stunts.

871
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: And then you exactly, yeah, and you would keep me

872
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: in checking my incentives, Like if I had like a

873
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: little ham or something, a little soft tissues.

874
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 2: Oh brother, you're playing, I'll be coming to that training

875
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: room like, hey, I was talking to Andy and office.

876
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta we gotta go. What's some ben gay

877
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: on that thingles roll Yeah, yeah, exactly, bro. Let that

878
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: thing fucking rip. So chiefs, if we get action with

879
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: the chiefs will very much.

880
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: We'll think about it.

881
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Like I said, before this all goes into in my

882
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: knee handle the situation. I we'll say, though, I was

883
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: squatter two twenty five to day for ten no ship,

884
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: so we're talking about like that in your back pocket?

885
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 4: What's that?

886
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: Oh buddy?

887
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: We were down no shift to the hips or nothing either.

888
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: My leg was towrking like I needed dollar bills. That

889
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: thing was going fucking wild dog after that, lunges, we're fit, elevated, tough, bro,

890
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: nothing like some bulk and split squad. Yes, and I

891
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: guess what, full got my leg all the way down

892
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: to the ground.

893
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: Nice. So the rehab is that's a nice feeling. So

894
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: if you're at we're listening things are going well.

895
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: Then God for this second, then God for this second

896
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: surgery is all I'll say. Yeah, because doctor Elatrosh really

897
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: fixed a lot of things in there.

898
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: I like how you phrased that.

899
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 6: Thank you, Uh speaking of ATG knees overtos guy he

900
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 6: DM's he would love to come on the bus.

901
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: He followed me the other day. Really Yeah, yeah, boy,

902
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: I love knees overtoes guy.

903
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 6: And even do an even do a vlog with him,

904
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 6: just like and dude brother, Yeah, train us for train

905
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 6: us for however long you're here.

906
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be incredible. I would absolutely one hundred

907
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: percent dow rerect.

908
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 6: Line because he was he was saying how he goes

909
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 6: out of all the sports that I work with, because

910
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 6: he did, he'd post a lot of stuff about him

911
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 6: dunking and just the recovery he's had from all the

912
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 6: knee surgeries that he's had.

913
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: He's like, football players are who DM me and want

914
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: to work with me the most. You know.

915
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: What's funny too, is of the training staffs I've worked with,

916
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: there's been a handful that have said to me like

917
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: that shit is wrong, Like you shouldn't really yeah, like

918
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: having that like working that long, that flection, like you're

919
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: like you don't need that.

920
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be doing.

921
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: Your knees over your toes ball blah blah, you should

922
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: be doing things you need for sports.

923
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it'll be interesting to say, see what he

924
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: says about all this stuff.

925
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, because remember when we were in Arizona for Super

926
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 6: Bowl week and we were training with the boy Drew

927
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 6: Drew at Exo. When we were training the boy Drew

928
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 6: at X shout Out Drew, he was incorporating some of

929
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 6: the knees over stuff in the workout and he was

930
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 6: talking about, you know, yeah, I would be interested to

931
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 6: have him on and talk about all that would be awesome.

932
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 2: Is it Ben? I think his name is Ben, Yeah, Ben, Yeah,

933
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: it is Ben.

934
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: I I unsubscribe because I was like paying for their

935
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: programs and then when I had when I had to

936
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: get my knee have surgery again, I literally unsubscribed and

937
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: somebody from the ATG account like messaged me. I was like, hey,

938
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: why are you unsubscribing? I retoor ACL like I'll be back,

939
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: don't worry. They like, okay, good. So I did just

940
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: say we need that money. Yeah, we're gonna need that

941
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars a month. Brother, We're gonna need that. Yeah, dude,

942
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: they I think they do. I love all I love

943
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: all this stuff. That's basically what I Ben Patrick, Yeah,

944
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: Ben Patrick, That's pretty much what I And the dude's

945
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: fucking shreddy.

946
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: Look at him, he's and he can.

947
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: Jump out of the fucking gym too.

948
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 6: Yeah.

949
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: Brother, he and his body strength is incredible.

950
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

951
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 6: And the best part about all of his training and

952
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 6: programming is he obviously they have all a full library

953
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 6: and archive of all the videos, but he explains it

954
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 6: on such a level that you can if you're an

955
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 6: old lady or he's some well trained athlete. He's got

956
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 6: like phases for all of it, so you can do

957
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 6: it at home, you can do it on the go,

958
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 6: minimal equipment. It's awesome. I love all his programming, So

959
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 6: I think having him on the bus would be sick.

960
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 6: That'd be cool man for everybody trying to get right

961
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 6: and get jacked in twenty twenty three, we need to

962
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 6: have somebody on who's jacked. Yeah, you can get us

963
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 6: on the path. Yeah, boys cut up for sure. Yeah,

964
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 6: I'll know about Jack.

965
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: But before we get into the uh who is it

966
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: kir Cousins Cousins episode this week, he came on the

967
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: bus when we were in the super Bowl. Incredible individual.

968
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: He literally came there And I hope we have that

969
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: clip because it played. He came because of will when

970
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: you I will let you guys watch this episode. You

971
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: guys will get into it. It's a It's an amazing episode.

972
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: He goes in his mindset where his head heads out

973
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: as far as far as his career, where Minnesota is going,

974
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: where he thinks he can go. But my favorite part

975
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: of the entire episode was the ending of the episode

976
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: when he literally sat there as we.

977
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: Were literally getting up.

978
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm like going to stand up, and he's giving will

979
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: flowers like I've never seen somebody give somebody else flowers

980
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: before my life. It was incredible, incredible, and it says

981
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: everything he said is absolutely correct about Will. But uh,

982
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: before you guys see that episode, Tier Talk now, the

983
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: Tier Talk this week is going to be the best albums,

984
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: the whole music albums Now. I don't know how it's

985
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: gonna go. I know Willie's Big is easy top guy.

986
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: They're a great band, maybe not the best band of

987
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: all time like Big one A two. But this is

988
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: obviously all a preference for everybody. They might they might

989
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: not even make it.

990
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 6: That was just my first thought when I was trying

991
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 6: to get out of there. You were in a mental blend. Yeah,

992
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 6: and boys are going to Vegas tomorrow. We are going

993
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 6: to Vegas, staying at the Aria in the lookout. The

994
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 6: boys will be out in the angle, will be out

995
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 6: in the wild.

996
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: I want to get I want to say this out

997
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: loud and hopefully the Aria hears this. That's where we're staying.

998
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: Phenomenal place. Crystal, the lady that does all the stuff,

999
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: does a great job. Cannot wait anytime you have to

1000
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: go to Vegas and stay at the Aria. It's a

1001
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: phenomenal time. Yeah, very accommodating, very great people. It's gonna

1002
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: be awesome.

1003
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 2: At the bottom.

1004
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 6: And whenever we met Nick that night too, with Ben,

1005
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 6: with Ben, yeah, and when Ben jo Yeah, staying in

1006
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 6: that little circle talking.

1007
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben had a phenomenal showing, by the way, a

1008
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: phenomenal showing.

1009
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: Real, he really did.

1010
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: I am very excited. But I do have a little

1011
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: warning for you. Are you I'm coming for it all,

1012
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: Just so just fucking know that, buddy, I'm coming here

1013
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: for everything. Yeah, we're gonna are is gonna turn to

1014
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: the Lauania when it's all fucking done, dude, It's gonna

1015
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: turn to Lauwania. So better focus up. Let's take a

1016
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: five minute break, Let's load up our tear talks.

1017
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 6: Should we talk at all about the Lamar Jackson stuff.

1018
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 6: We don't have to be even well, like what he's

1019
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 6: getting franchise tags. All the stuff that's going on out there.

1020
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 6: People are losing their minds right now, like losing their minds.

1021
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 6: There's a lot of arguing going on.

1022
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: So I don't know what you've heard about Lamar. I've

1023
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: heard that him and the Ravens are not cool. He's

1024
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: basically fuck the Ravens. There was a moment there where

1025
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: we heard about the Falcons. A reliable source told us

1026
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: that's we wait to tweet something out missed it by

1027
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds. Boys, They said, he's they're franchise tagging him.

1028
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: So now in the franchise tag they can trade. People

1029
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: can still trade for Lamar.

1030
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 6: The thing that the Ravens did is they put a

1031
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 6: non exclusive franchise tag on him. Like again, we'll be

1032
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 6: talking this interview with Kirk. We kind of talk about

1033
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 6: that because he's a guy who's gotten guaranteed contracts three

1034
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 6: years at a time and he's been very brainiac about

1035
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 6: his approach. But when Kirk was going through it, they

1036
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 6: would franchise tag him. He got franchise tag twice two

1037
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 6: years in a row and never got a long term deal.

1038
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 6: And you know, Lamar's trying to get a long term

1039
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 6: deal fully guaranteed, just like Kirk was trying to get

1040
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 6: at the time as well. And but the Ravens put

1041
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 6: on a non exclusive tag, meaning he can test the market,

1042
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 6: which I think from if we're going full objective business

1043
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 6: side of it, putting yourself in the raven shoes, they're

1044
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 6: probably willing to pay him, in my opinion, but they

1045
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 6: want to know they don't want to overpay him if

1046
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 6: they don't have to, Like, hey, go out there and fish,

1047
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 6: go out there and see what you can get. Because

1048
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 6: the non exclusive tag, you either trade two first round

1049
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 6: picks or you get to match the contract that the

1050
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 6: team is off from Lamar. So puts them in a

1051
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 6: position and be like, hey, go see what your market

1052
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 6: is and then we can make a decision after that. Now,

1053
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 6: all the emotion and stuff involved, all that kind of stuff,

1054
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 6: I'm not as privy to, but I do understand Lamar

1055
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 6: wanting a fully like you see what Deshaun Watson did

1056
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 6: last year, right and got that fully guaranteed deal for

1057
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 6: like two hundred and something million dollars for what five years,

1058
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 6: Like he got a massive You're seeing these quarterbacks getting

1059
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 6: these high.

1060
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: D Daniel Jones just got paid forty three million dollars a.

1061
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 6: Year, right, which is seems which seems asini now, like

1062
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 6: like me thinking about it, it's like, Okay, maybe the giants,

1063
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 6: like whoever's running their stuff, they're not you know, they

1064
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 6: ultimately just paid Daniel Jones when they probably didn't have

1065
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 6: to pay them all that money because.

1066
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: They're two different organizations.

1067
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 6: It's not like just because Daniel gets paid Lamar doesn't

1068
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 6: doesn't mean everyone thinks like, oh, this is absurd.

1069
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: Why when they do that?

1070
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 6: There's some some cluting going on, and I know that

1071
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 6: it's a little thought or a conspiracy out there that

1072
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 6: they're not paying Lamar. And then ultimately all the teams

1073
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 6: are publicly coming out to say we don't want to

1074
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 6: shop lamorrow have a market for Lamar because they're trying

1075
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 6: to clude in a sense to let oh know that

1076
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 6: they their gonna be paying fully guaranteed deals and you

1077
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 6: get off of the standard that Deshaun was trying to

1078
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 6: set when.

1079
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: He Shawn really started with Kirk Cousins right right.

1080
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 6: Right right, But which by the way, Deshawn's even looking

1081
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 6: at restructuring his deal so that they can pay other

1082
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 6: guys in the market.

1083
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that restructure you can keep guaranteed.

1084
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: All you want.

1085
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: All you do is just take the salary and put

1086
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: it into a signing BoatUS and pay him the minimum

1087
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: that you're as far as the salary and just the

1088
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: cap is no longer as big of a hit, ye, Like,

1089
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: it all depends on how much money a team has

1090
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: to give you. And I know there's a cap, but

1091
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: some more cash flow than other. So if the cap

1092
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: is at like two hundred.

1093
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 6: And ten, because there's a thought, I guess what I'm

1094
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 6: saying that you can speak to is like the cap

1095
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 6: doesn't exist, right, but that's not real.

1096
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: But the cap is not a real thing. People say

1097
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: the CAP's not.

1098
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 6: Real, And then you can go into kind of explain

1099
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 6: that you know, teams who are cash heavy are cash

1100
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 6: heavy or not.

1101
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: Then you can so two teams, Well, one team that's

1102
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: a cash heavy team is the Dallas Cowboys. You see

1103
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: it the way they where they did a Tyron Smiths deal.

1104
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: It was like a ten one hundred million dollars, ten

1105
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: year deal, which when you see that one hundred million dollars, like,

1106
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: holy fuck, I think it was eight years.

1107
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: Holy fuck.

1108
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 4: That's great.

1109
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: But they're only paying them ten a years, so you

1110
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: can do stuff like that. They put guys on longer,

1111
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: long winded deals that five, six, seven year deals. But

1112
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: what teams do when they get put in a position

1113
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: like the Saints, like the Titans were in before a

1114
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: couple weeks ago, when they started snippeting a bunch of people,

1115
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: is they get below that cap number. All you have

1116
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: to do is get below the cap number before a

1117
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: certain date. Let's call it March first. Let's just say

1118
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: it's March first.

1119
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 4: Once you get.

1120
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: Below that, now the cap for that year really doesn't matter.

1121
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: If you're a team that thinks they can win and

1122
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: actually has the liquidity to go and get those players,

1123
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: you can take your top three guys, turn their their

1124
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: money for that year into a signing bonus, and once

1125
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: you do that, you've cleared up a shitloaded cap.

1126
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 6: So here's here's a good question, which would be which

1127
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 6: would be a good example? You rowed what fourteen points

1128
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 6: something against the cap this year and they're like, oh,

1129
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 6: they freed up fourteen million. If in this example they

1130
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 6: would have taken that fourteen million and put into a

1131
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 6: signing bonus, they would have cleared that same sort of clear.

1132
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: They would be able to do the fourteen million they

1133
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: do like thirteen point five. And then because if I

1134
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: was owed fourteen point five, then I make a million

1135
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: dollars that year. So Mike, you can only be a

1136
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: million to the I would be a million. And now

1137
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: there are some some smaller things like it wouldn't be

1138
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: a million, my dead cap would now be higher. So really,

1139
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: when you're transitioning that, when you're taking restructuring someone's deal

1140
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: to this is their salary. We're taking their salary. We're

1141
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: putting it into a signing bonus. When you do that,

1142
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: you're you're basically pushing your problem down the road. You're saying, Hey,

1143
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: a couple of years, we're gonna have to.

1144
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: Deal with this.

1145
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: That's an issue, but we can win now. Then we

1146
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: have an owner that has the ability to shekel out

1147
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: these this kind of money because they're cash heavy. Because

1148
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: they're cash heavy, there are teams. People who own these

1149
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: teams obviously are extremely wealthy individuals. Some of these people

1150
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: who own teams, the NFL is their main main source

1151
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: of income, Like that's like their main source. Other people

1152
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: have other money and they're able to acquire buy from

1153
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: the jack is A is a perfect example of this

1154
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: kind of guy you always see, Like back in like

1155
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, sixteen seventeen, when the Jags were like kind

1156
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: of like hey shit, they went to the AFC Championship.

1157
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: They were kind of doing something. They were Saxonville. You'd

1158
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: see guys just getting signed over and over forty five

1159
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars deal, sixty million dollar deals, and like,

1160
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: how the fuck has it happened. It's because buddy's got

1161
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: bags and so he knows you can put it into

1162
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: a signing bonus. Movies, guys, you to a guy like

1163
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: Kalais Campbell, who you know is a stud for you.

1164
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: He knows he's gonna produce that year. Okay, go ahead

1165
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: and put that into a signing bonus. He's gonna make

1166
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: a million, and then we can go sign this dude,

1167
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: this dude, and this dude. Imagine if they had Doug

1168
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: Peterson back them. Holy shit, right, I think they other

1169
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: than them. But anyway, there is a lot of things

1170
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: you can do to manipulate the cap. It doesn't make

1171
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: all your problems go away, go away, but it does

1172
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: take away those problems. Now like a short term we're

1173
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: trying to win a Super Bowl. We're a couple of

1174
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 1: pieces away. We need some big names, some big talent

1175
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: in here. That's when you can go and get a

1176
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: couple of guys free up some cap, like like the Bills,

1177
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: for example. I don't know who their owner is, I

1178
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: don't know how cash heavy they are, but they're a

1179
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: close team. I don't know how far they are away

1180
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: from the cap either, but they can easily take josh

1181
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: Allen's contract restructure.

1182
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: Half of that. What's he making forty five million dollars?

1183
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so now it's at twenty five million dollars and

1184
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: he's making He's gonna he has a twenty five million

1185
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: dollars signing. About us he makes twenty million dollars a year,

1186
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: but that other twenty Now you can go inside other

1187
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: guys and then push that problem back, push that problem

1188
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: a couple a couple of years back, because the dead

1189
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: CAP's gonna get it's gonna go farther and farther down

1190
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: the road. And the issues that run into that are

1191
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: guys that get older. Let's say Joshua's into situation like

1192
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: I did, where he has a couple of years of

1193
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: injuries on the field as much he's out there, he's

1194
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: doing great, but do we know if he's really gonna

1195
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: be out there the whole season? And then you look

1196
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,479
Speaker 1: at his dead cap, and his dead caps at thirty

1197
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: five million dollars a month's like, oh fuck, we can't

1198
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: cut that because that just kills everything.

1199
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 6: So, talking to another reliable source about the Lamar Jackson

1200
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 6: stuff out, the question was, why don't you think you know,

1201
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 6: why do you think teams are publicly saying this and that?

1202
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 6: Are like, why are teams does it seem like they're

1203
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 6: not going to pay Lamar not not going to pay,

1204
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 6: but why is it such a big story? And his

1205
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 6: response was that it's he feels like a lot of

1206
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 6: teams there's a it's like there's a reminder of a

1207
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 6: few years back when the NBA started to make those

1208
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 6: massive jumps and contracts. The same kind of things happening

1209
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 6: with some quarterbacks over the last couple of years, and

1210
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 6: you see a lot of these teams that have done that.

1211
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 6: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers, uh, Deshaunhason, Yeah, but not Mahomes.

1212
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 6: There's also another one, Josh Allen. Josh Allen was up there,

1213
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 6: but there was like a top four Russell Wilson, was

1214
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 6: it Russell, Yeah, Russ Russell, yeah, Russell. So let's say

1215
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 6: Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson, Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers. And the

1216
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 6: response on top of that was a lot of those

1217
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 6: teams now that did those heavy deals for quarterbacks, they're

1218
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 6: now trying to actually get out of them and reneuver

1219
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 6: their way around around them because they haven't worked out

1220
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 6: in the short term as much as they had hoped.

1221
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 6: So a lot of teams are probably sitting back like, yeah,

1222
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 6: the market that Lamar and all these guys are arguing for,

1223
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 6: that market's there because it's been established. But a lot

1224
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 6: of probably ownership or lead in those leadership groups that

1225
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 6: are paying this money are probably looking at like, hang

1226
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 6: on that we gotta we gotta try to realist in

1227
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 6: because we're seeing it with these other teams, like Deshaun

1228
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 6: Watson's trying to or is looking at possibly restructuring his deal.

1229
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 6: The Packers are in hell with Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson.

1230
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 6: We saw how that's played out, Kyler Murray. We see

1231
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 6: how that's playing out when when they were hiring the

1232
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 6: next head coach. So a lot of teams are like

1233
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 6: taking this. I feel like into account. I'll be like, hey,

1234
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 6: before we go into this. And again, Lamar, he was

1235
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 6: injured this year and he did the right thing, not

1236
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 6: playing that's the he made the right move. But again

1237
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 6: that's also gonna be used as leverage. This is why

1238
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 6: this whole thing's a battle right now. Both sides are

1239
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 6: kind of doing the right thing and letting the world,

1240
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 6: I guess, freak out about it. But I think it's

1241
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 6: a little bit more controlled behind the scenes than what

1242
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 6: it seems like in the in the media.

1243
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: And it goes back to the tactical strategies that people

1244
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: are doing, Like teams will do strategic things and players

1245
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: will do strategic things, and then everyone's kind of playing

1246
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: that game of chess that we always talk about. Yeah,

1247
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: like they're both trying to Lamar's like, great, I get

1248
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: to go see what everybody else wants. Lamar might get

1249
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: there in a couple of days when free agency starts

1250
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: and be like cluck, dude, this is not what I

1251
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: thought it would be. Or it might be the exact opposite.

1252
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: He might go to a Commanders or something like that.

1253
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: He might go to a different team, but the Ravens

1254
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: are sitting there and they're like, this is our best part,

1255
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: this is our best chess piece to move right now,

1256
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: to show that he's not worth what he.

1257
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 7: Thinks he's worth, right, Yeah, on his On the topic

1258
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 7: of him, since what's the franchise tag? They put him

1259
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 7: on non exclusive exclusive, so another team would have to

1260
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 7: give up two first round picks or or they've offered

1261
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 7: So do they get to pick which years they give

1262
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 7: up those first round picks?

1263
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that it's a good question. That's a

1264
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: really good question. Yeah, I'm not sure. What if it's like, yeah,

1265
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: I'll give you one this year and one in ten years. Yeah, yeah,

1266
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: if that is, if you're able to do this, probably.

1267
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: A cap and which team picks good question in particular.

1268
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 2: I can't Yeah, it's a great question for zig.

1269
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 6: I can't wait for one day because I think we're

1270
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 6: we will get Lamar Jackson on at some point.

1271
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that at all that one day. Well,

1272
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: I heard on the radio.

1273
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 6: I'm curious too how the whole approach has been without

1274
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 6: an agent, because even guys who don't have agents, they

1275
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 6: still get to use the NFLPA and probably consult.

1276
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: With people I would assume and advisors of some kind

1277
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: of hope happens.

1278
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 6: But either way, I can't wait to just pick his

1279
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 6: brain on how all this has went for him, especially posturing.

1280
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: That way with him representing himself the last time.

1281
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure this has only happened like a handful

1282
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 7: of times in the NFL, and I'm I'm probably wrong,

1283
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 7: But the last time this happened, I think was l way.

1284
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, with just a situation. Yeah, the what is it?

1285
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: Non restrictive free? Yeah, non exclusive for non exclusive tag.

1286
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: I was gonna say the only thing I can.

1287
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, It's like Kirk, he had the exclusive franchise tag,

1288
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 6: so he was like under contract. He wanted to get

1289
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 6: paid before the first franchise tag, they would franchise tag them.

1290
00:51:58,960 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: The second one.

1291
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 6: He want to try and work out a deal. They wouldn't,

1292
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 6: So we got the transitional tag or whatever it's called.

1293
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 6: There's like two or three tags.

1294
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: Imagine if the Commanders had Kirk right now, though I know,

1295
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: maybe sitting so much more pretty. Yeah, because he's panned out,

1296
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: he's he's he's done it. Yeah, there's a lot of

1297
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: knocks on him. Hey, he can't win a primetime game

1298
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: all that shit. It's like he's still a stud and

1299
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: he can rip it. Yeah, and he talks about that.

1300
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: That's what that's what it'll be good for about it. Yeah,

1301
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: I can't wait for you guys to listen to that.

1302
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: Let's do let's do tear talk, because tear talk is

1303
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: so like personal base. We're gonna designate to one person.

1304
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: I believe that person is gonna be Garrett. Garrett is

1305
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: gonna do the tear talk this week. So you will

1306
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: see me, you will see Will, and you will see

1307
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: Garrett do that all right. Took a quick break. Took

1308
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: a quick break from this episode to do a little

1309
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: homework on TikTok. Garrett was ready, I was ready, but

1310
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: obviously Will showed up a little on time, so we

1311
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: didn't have time to uh break everything down. We will

1312
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: now start with Garrett. Garrett, what do you go for

1313
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: your tear talk?

1314
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: We gotta get done to three? Should we do with

1315
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 2: top five?

1316
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 6: Five?

1317
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: Hey, well we'll go first my three and then y'all

1318
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: can do is minichi you want? All right? All right?

1319
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 7: So best albums these are ones that were just at

1320
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 7: a pivotal moment. I feel like in my life, middle.

1321
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: School, high school, exactly is everybody's pivotal moments of their life.

1322
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 7: So Tier three is gonna be Kid Cutty's Man on

1323
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 7: the Moon. The first one, it was electric when it

1324
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 7: first came electric. Tier two is gonna be mechanical bull

1325
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 7: Kings of Leon. That one came at the end of

1326
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 7: that came actually fourteen, my first yeah in college, right

1327
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 7: at the beginning. It's got the feels, it's got the rock,

1328
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 7: it's phenomenal. Tier one keeping it in the family. Only

1329
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 7: by the Night Kings of Leon. That was when I

1330
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 7: started driving in high school and also partaking an extra

1331
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 7: curricular shout out to the fucking Turtle Clan.

1332
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: That was.

1333
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 7: That was our crew in high school. Little back, full

1334
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 7: backstory on on Turtle Clan. When they were building neighborhoods

1335
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 7: in Brentwood, we hit a little dry spot, so only

1336
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 7: the roads were paved, no houses were going up.

1337
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 2: For a long time.

1338
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 7: We would go to the back farthest back could de

1339
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 7: sac and just chill, get high, yes, and drink and

1340
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 7: drink and listen to Only by the Night. I bet

1341
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 7: it was the fucking spot. And that's that album is incredible.

1342
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 7: It's got There's an inside joke between Jack and I

1343
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 7: that when you're hungover, take a shower in the dark

1344
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 7: and listen to Cold Desert and you.

1345
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: Will wake up a new man. Oh I love that.

1346
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if we're go, if we're running back on

1347
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: this little stories. The song I walked out to was

1348
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: a song from Mechanical Bull Awesome. I wasn't super Soaker,

1349
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: it was I was running through the desert. I was

1350
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: in it.

1351
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: Rock City Bro.

1352
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: When I got drafted, we had like walk up songs,

1353
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: and that's the song I came out to. That's how

1354
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: I met Jared.

1355
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: Well So twenty fifteen, when they did the New Year's

1356
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: Eve here.

1357
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: Bang, it was I was at that. Yeah, so I

1358
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: was gonna say that was right when you got me

1359
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: and the girl I was dating, we got a big fight.

1360
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: I actually missed the concert.

1361
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: It was yeah, those are my three man.

1362
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: I was running through the desert. I was looking for drugs,

1363
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 1: and I was searching for one word, thank you addiction, Yes, all.

1364
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: Right, will you want me to go? You want to go?

1365
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: They're not going back there, but they would have everyone

1366
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: I can't. I was gonna give you one word, though,

1367
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: rock and.

1368
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: Passion that you should have saved that from me. I'm

1369
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: about to be off and my ship in the second.

1370
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I can go, I'll go, you all go.

1371
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 2: You seem not confident yet. No, no, I'm ready. I'm ready.

1372
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 6: My Tier seven bro, alright, alright, not that not that many,

1373
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 6: but I do want to. I do want to give

1374
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 6: shout outs to zz top Eliminator. That's sharp dressed, man,

1375
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 6: that's give me all your loving and also back in

1376
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 6: Black ac DC nineteen eighty. We're talking Hell's bells Back

1377
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 6: in Black obviously, But dude, I think what's what I

1378
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 6: was trying to look for in the ac DC albums

1379
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 6: because I'm like, man, hopefully they're all like, you know, kind.

1380
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 2: Of in like a you know, a c d c's

1381
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: Greatest Hits.

1382
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 6: But dude, my dad and I went to a a

1383
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 6: c DC concert one time and they there's nothing but

1384
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 6: fucking hits from ac DC. Bro, nothing but hits. Yeah,

1385
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 6: I'm not shitting you, brother.

1386
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: No, I'm with you on a and I'm with you.

1387
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: I saw Jack changes glasses so.

1388
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: Laughing at that.

1389
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 4: All right?

1390
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 6: My uh so that's you know, that's shout out to

1391
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 6: the boys. But my Tier five it's gonna be h Drake,

1392
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 6: take care. Hell Yeah, fucking right shot for me, Marvin'

1393
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 6: droom dude, Marn's rooms up banging twenty eleven. When we're

1394
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 6: in college, bro, like you know the cultures in it,

1395
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 6: Like we're vibing to Drake, Yeah, vibe Drake just on

1396
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,479
Speaker 6: the outside looking in, you know what, No, no, no, okay,

1397
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 6: I gotta switch a couple my going off that same

1398
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 6: vibe like in college the Carter three low Wayne, Yeah,

1399
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 6: senior of high school, your year old Yeah, wait right, Yeah,

1400
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 6: Lollipop was a fucking jam. I think everybody wanted to

1401
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 6: sound cool on the whole late text when he did

1402
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 6: the whole Yeah, you don't want that late text?

1403
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 2: Better where better wear a late text?

1404
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 6: Is you don't want that late text that I think

1405
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 6: I'm late text, Like everyone tried dropping that lyric thinking

1406
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 6: like yo, you know I listened to that Lollipop Yeah,

1407
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 6: just captures on Milly like mister and missus Carter all bangers,

1408
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 6: my Tier three. And here's where I gotta get in

1409
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 6: and talk about albums that like I've like that you

1410
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 6: listen to that, like probably you listen to the most

1411
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 6: on repeat, and then also like something I really dove

1412
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 6: into and like felt and like yo, this shit low

1413
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 6: key like changes me. My Tier three is gonna be

1414
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 6: Nickelback all the right reasons. You got photograph animals saving

1415
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 6: me rock star, and if everyone cared like Nickelback, I

1416
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 6: know that might get some Hayden and backlash, but Nickelback

1417
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 6: bro first concert I went to is Nickelback old man,

1418
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 6: Maybe go to Aerosmith with them with him, but willingly

1419
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 6: wanted to.

1420
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 2: Go to Nickelback. I feel like Nickelback was a fucking banger.

1421
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 6: Fortune we got to interview them when we had them

1422
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 6: on and I got to give them their flowers and

1423
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 6: felt good doing it, but was longer.

1424
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah not out, Yeah, it's not out.

1425
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 6: It's coming out next to Yeah, and then obviously the

1426
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 6: earlier album How You Remind Me. I wish that one

1427
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 6: was on there too, but Nickelback when that thing was out.

1428
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: Fire. My Tier two is gonna go to.

1429
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 6: NF therapy session, and that's got several oppums, and there

1430
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 6: might be a lot of people out there that don't

1431
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 6: are arnest privy to the NF wave andF has mansions

1432
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 6: therapy session search the search perception of Fire artist. This

1433
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 6: is like I got on Eminem shout out Adam Hayward.

1434
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 6: Adam Hayward was a teammate of mine named Washington in

1435
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 6: two thousand and fourteen, and he put me on NF.

1436
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 6: His first album then at that point was Mansion. And

1437
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 6: NF is somebody who is like, literally album after album

1438
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 6: can go and continue to dig deep down and all

1439
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 6: those emotions that he had because he's big into therapy

1440
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 6: in his mind and everything else, and somebody who like

1441
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 6: goes into the basement and can truly storytell and put

1442
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 6: things together.

1443
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 2: And all of his albums call back to each other.

1444
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 6: It's like, it's like it's genius that, like I, every

1445
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 6: time he drops something, I listened to his album in

1446
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 6: sequence because it's like truly a story that I love

1447
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 6: to listen to his album's in sequence. But he's been

1448
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 6: there in so many pivotal points of my life too,

1449
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 6: like in Washington, Charro, like when I was finding my

1450
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 6: wife and Charro, what's a when my mom passed away?

1451
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 6: He was somebody he has stuff that again he's able

1452
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 6: to dig in the basement and relate to you on

1453
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 6: such a crazy level. But Tier two NF my Tier

1454
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 6: one salute to the fucking king eminem Bro curtain call,

1455
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 6: he said, oh, curtain Call, the way I Am, lose yourself, Mockingbird?

1456
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 6: What else do I have on your sing for the moment?

1457
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 6: Stand without Me? All bangers, all bangers?

1458
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: You want to do?

1459
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 6: Eminem show fire his LPs fire. But my favorite Eminem

1460
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 6: album is uh yeah, curtain Call. That is my tier talk.

1461
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 6: I wish I could do more. Music is so fucking hard, bro, music.

1462
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: Is so hard.

1463
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: Also on the NF dude, how could you leave? First

1464
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: time you heard that song?

1465
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 2: You're not crying? Absolutely?

1466
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the first time I heard that song, I bawled

1467
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: my fucking eyes out, Yeah, in the car by myself.

1468
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 2: It's incredible.

1469
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 6: It's incredible how he can and again he does and

1470
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 6: cuss doesn't say, you know, doesn't do all that stuff

1471
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 6: that it takes so like a lot of rappers do,

1472
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 6: he does it on such a level and speaks to

1473
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 6: your fucking soul.

1474
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaks to your fucking soul. And he's known, he

1475
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: was labeled, I know at one point.

1476
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 6: I don't know if he stills by I'm pretty sure,

1477
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 6: but like a Christian rapper, yeah, but throw that ship

1478
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 6: out the window.

1479
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: It ain't that this is like it is like an

1480
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: Eminem type vibe.

1481
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: Just flow, heat slow, he can sing.

1482
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: It's nuts, Bro, it's nice. He's he is a artist.

1483
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: That was incredible. Thank you. I was sweating like trying.

1484
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: To brother, like, oh, one word, incredible, hype, impact, a lot.

1485
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: White that needed to be said, Bro, that needed to

1486
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 2: be said. List is gonna come out there. That's gonna

1487
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna be fun.

1488
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: Hey, I'll tell you what. You should have saved both

1489
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: of those for mine because we're about to take a

1490
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: little ride from two thousand and one to two thousand

1491
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: and five right now. Yeah yeah, yeah, so boys, we're

1492
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: to get a ride down memory lane. I would I

1493
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: do have two honorable mentions in this situation. I gotta

1494
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: give flowers to a band that got me back into

1495
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: country music. I thought country music for a while I

1496
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: was getting a little too beaty, a little too much

1497
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: of this listener is that they've been on the podcast

1498
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: a few times. I gotta give it to Middland on

1499
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: the Rocks when they came out all like drinking problems,

1500
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: I got to pull it up because they have so

1501
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: many hitters.

1502
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm just so bro.

1503
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: Listen to this on the Rocks lonely for you make

1504
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: a little drinking problems. At least you cried burnout out

1505
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: of sight more than a fever. Bro. This like this album.

1506
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: When I popped it on, I immediately called my buddy

1507
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: Nick Benne Is like, buddy, how do you feel about

1508
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: new country music? I fucking hated it. Nick's had a

1509
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: lot of opinions when it comes to country music. I

1510
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: had him throw this song. He called me an hour

1511
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: and a half later he goes, you were right, They're

1512
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: fucking incredible. So that is one of my honorable mentions.

1513
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: My second honorable mention spoiler alert. It's gonna go to

1514
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: Blink one eight to two, And the only reason why

1515
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: it's not in my top three is because I already

1516
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: got it. I already got a Blink one it in there,

1517
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: and I want to have a little more of a deal.

1518
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 6: Two.

1519
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: Take off your Pants and Jacket?

1520
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 4: Bro.

1521
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: First off, I was like twenty seven when I figured

1522
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: out that take off your pants and jacket?

1523
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: Did you get that?

1524
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: Because I remember looking at the album and it's black

1525
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: and has like little colors and it's like literally a

1526
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: pant and jacket and it's like a plane, and I'm like, bro, yeah,

1527
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: that's a cool logo.

1528
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: I guess. But I'm.

1529
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: Ten, so I'm like, I don't fucking know, dude, Anthem

1530
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: part two. When that song just starts on the album,

1531
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 1: You're like, I know I'm in for an online song

1532
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: first date. That music video is a fucking hitter, and

1533
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: then you get to switch it up to Happy Holidays,

1534
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: you bastard. It's like a little split in between the

1535
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: music for a little fun bullshit, the rock show, roller Coaster, Reckless, abandon,

1536
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: shut up, give me, give me one good reason, dude.

1537
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: It is so fucking all time that that is it.

1538
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: That is it now, That's that's all I have for that.

1539
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: Those are my honorall mentions, my Tier three. Not everyone's

1540
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: gonna see eye out of this. For me, when I

1541
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: think of my favorite albums of all time, it's what

1542
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: album can I put on and know every single word

1543
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: to every single track and sing every single every single song,

1544
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:07,479
Speaker 1: no problem? And that this Tier three to me, don't

1545
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: know why it's such a banger Panic at the disco

1546
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: a fever. You can't sweat out all of those songs, dude.

1547
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: The vocabulary that motherfucker has, how he rips and flows

1548
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: and then it changes beats and all of a sudden

1549
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: he uses intricate, like fucking violins and shit like violins

1550
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: and like an orchestra type stuff. And at the same

1551
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: time he's just putting heat down over and over and

1552
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: over again. So that is my Tier three. My Tier

1553
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: two once again is going to go back to a

1554
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: time in my life when I was living on the ranch.

1555
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: This song, this album came out. We actually brought up

1556
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: on the Midland podcast and they're very disrespectful to it

1557
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: is big and rich, a horse of a different color,

1558
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: very unique, interesting blend of country music that a lot

1559
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: of people are probably against, but for me, it's just

1560
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,479
Speaker 1: one of those I remember sitting in my mom's trucks.

1561
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: She had an f Red F one fifty. It was

1562
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: stick shift, and we'd always go to this place called

1563
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: Cokomo Joe's. I would call it Tiki Taylor's. I just

1564
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: thought that was like a fun little bit I was

1565
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: doing when I was thirteen, fourteen years old, and we

1566
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: would listen to that, back and forth, back and forth

1567
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: like where we eight every day for like a summer,

1568
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: and for me, I was like, bro I still put

1569
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: that on. I remember like going back to the ranch,

1570
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: chasing down goes, trying to learn how to rope and

1571
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: do a whole bunch of fun shit. So that's like

1572
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: a level of nostalgia for me that I had to

1573
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: get into my tear talk and obviously my Tier one

1574
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: gotta go back to the greatest band of all time.

1575
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: We know who I'm talking about, because I've already mentioned him.

1576
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,479
Speaker 1: It's Blake one A two their self titled album Blake

1577
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: A two from two thousand and three. Let me just

1578
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: give you a couple songs on here feeling this? Are

1579
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: you fucking kidding me?

1580
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: I miss you? All right?

1581
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: Does he say ahead? Does he say ed? We don't

1582
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: fucking know? Stockholm syndrome? Down, go, dude, It's always easy

1583
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: target like they this album I put on. Dude, shout

1584
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: out Alex Macsudian, the emo girl I was into in

1585
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: middle school.

1586
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: Dude. We would get off the bus.

1587
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: She'd have her hair covering up her left eye and

1588
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: I had the biggest little bit of thick girl too. Now,

1589
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: all right, she didn't have like a body on her

1590
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: or anything, but for whatever reason, Alex max shudey and

1591
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:06,959
Speaker 1: I was like the love of my life at twelve

1592
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: thirteen years old. One day I asked her out. She said, yes,

1593
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: I was like, holy fuck, boys, we've made it. I'm

1594
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: playing all there's already wedding bells going on in my head.

1595
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: Four days later, I go to her house. I haven't

1596
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: heard from her in four days. By the way, she

1597
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: wasn't answering my aim, so I was like, oh fuck.

1598
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: I go to her house call her. She comes over

1599
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,439
Speaker 1: the back of her wall in her backyard and hands

1600
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: me a letter. It's ripped out of a notebook. It's

1601
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: got lipstick kiss on it, and it's a breakup letter

1602
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: of why she can't be with me. We didn't talk

1603
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: for the four days we were dating, but your boy

1604
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: took it harder than anybody could possibly take it. I

1605
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: put this album on and it saved me. Bro who

1606
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: knews where I would have been if it wasn't for

1607
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: Blank within an AA two's Blank within a two from

1608
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Incredible, incredible album. We just took

1609
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: a little ride back, and that is my tear talk

1610
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: would you say from mine? Incredible?

1611
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: Damn?

1612
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: This was gonna say for yours, but but ours are

1613
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: so different, so different, I know, but that's what I

1614
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: love about this. And she was like, man, I could

1615
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: have put those in mind. I remember the Carter three. Yeah,

1616
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: and again you're saying stuff again. It's speaking to just

1617
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: a different It's like all the different phases of your life.

1618
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: Man. And you talked about a breakup.

1619
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 6: Like remember usher, bro Oh yeah, dude, Like there's so

1620
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 6: many there's so much good music. And then and then

1621
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 6: when you're talking about panic at the disco for whatever reason,

1622
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 6: they're very different. But I started even thinking about Lincoln Park.

1623
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 6: Remember when Lincoln Park was hot back then?

1624
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: Bro, here we go for the one hundred time hand

1625
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: grenat pins and every line.

1626
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 6: You're definitely somebody like uh zero albums. I've said, do

1627
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 6: I know every song every word? Like you're somebody who

1628
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 6: can I feel like pick up lyrics like mine.

1629
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

1630
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 6: My brother Cody was always really good at that. He

1631
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 6: always knew every fucking lyric, and I can never pick

1632
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 6: that ship up.

1633
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: You know, Chris Arnold, he could listen to a song

1634
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: one hundred times and he'll never get it, Like he'll

1635
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: get one out of seven words, but he'll sing it

1636
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: like he knows it.

1637
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 6: I'll get like a few phrases in each song, yeah

1638
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 6: what I mean? And I will I will continue to

1639
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 6: sing it.

1640
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: I'll just not get it.

1641
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: Right, masterpiece, we play masterpiece if we sing that song,

1642
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: I look at you and you're just kind of mumbling

1643
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: in the corner to yourself.

1644
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: Hitting it. Pivotal, that's my word. Pivotal hyphenated good time.

1645
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: It's gonna come as a shot, but predictable, that's okay, blank.

1646
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 4: High faded as well, monster energy.

1647
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 2: For real, dude, I thought that that was far. That

1648
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: was fun to talk about.

1649
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 6: It's like, you can't necessarily, I guess you could go wrong,

1650
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 6: but not really no, because it's you.

1651
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just what you grew up even always what

1652
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: you grew up on. It's never now, it's never now

1653
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: because in ten years then that'll be the next one.

1654
01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 6: Dude, speaking of now those now albums, Yeah, God now

1655
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 6: four blue my groin doing that, blue d I think

1656
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 6: track now four might have been the best run.

1657
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 2: I think track four.

1658
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, because yeah, punk os pop was solid too,

1659
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: but it wasn't It wasn't now. But pump go punk

1660
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: ohs pop is a legit punk o pop. It goes

1661
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: pop is like a hardcore metal band that sing like

1662
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,799
Speaker 1: trendy pop songs. Gotcha and they're a fire actually gotcha

1663
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: Devilware's Prada.

1664
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: Dude, what's the song? They say? They sing a banger? Yeah, yeah,

1665
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 2: you just kind of go on.

1666
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: They're like, Yo, who the fuck are these guys, dude, LimeWire,

1667
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: what do you onan right now?

1668
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 7: Garrett speaking of now As of February third, twenty twenty.

1669
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 2: Three, we are on now eighty five.

1670
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 6: Wow, man, I thought the numbers to be higher. I

1671
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 6: wonder if kids are even still taking that in. I

1672
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 6: just remember when we were young, you would you would

1673
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 6: cop the now so I don't know if you got CD.

1674
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 6: I remember Easter every year I would get the Now CD.

1675
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 6: I'm like, young, Hey, look up now for and see

1676
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 6: when the like Blue Dapa d is that is? I

1677
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 6: think it's track four I had that. It is actually

1678
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 6: on repeat on my CD. Walkman, bro, Now listen up, dude, No.

1679
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, it looks like five if that is the sequence.

1680
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 2: And another one I'm thinking of too.

1681
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 6: In middle school, Bro meet Virginia oh Man, Hitter Bro

1682
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 6: John and the East Side Boys middle school dances.

1683
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: Dugie o.

1684
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 4: Bro.

1685
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: We'd be at middle school, dude, guys along beside girls

1686
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: in the other and to the window. Yeah, guys looking

1687
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: at it from the wall.

1688
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: You know, bro, over real, you fucking go up.

1689
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: And you're like, bro, middle schoolers grinding at each other.

1690
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: Is there not a funnier imagine being Imagine being like

1691
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 1: a chaperone at one of those middle schools watching thirteen

1692
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: year old boys just fucking grind that ship out.

1693
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 2: There's nutting in their pants a.

1694
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 6: Little bit of a because everybody else is like, it's

1695
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 6: like the deposture to play. Like I think I'm gonna go,

1696
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 6: They're like, go doing. You're like, you don't push me,

1697
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 6: You got to circle a little, and they're anxiety and

1698
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 6: feeling the push towards it. Go do this, and you're like,

1699
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 6: low key man' fucking cool. No, I'm not just like,

1700
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 6: not that dancing. You don't don't like dancing, Yeah, just

1701
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 6: let me pick my shirt.

1702
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: But there's always like those those that weird couple that

1703
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 1: found each other, like they were both kind of weirdos,

1704
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: and they like started dating. They make out real hard,

1705
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: always crazy crazy, and they're in the middle of that

1706
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: ship just fucking getting after it, bro, and everyone's like,

1707
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: holy fuck lo KEI looking back and like, you know,

1708
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: I wish I was that confident.

1709
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 2: No b on them kids for real, bro, them kids. Yea.

1710
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 1: I hate to bring this up because the Fred one

1711
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: of his podcasters, came out, but Julie Gerdono with the

1712
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: middle school with her, dude, I was staring her ass

1713
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: down and fucking desert canon.

1714
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 2: You want this? She's like, what the fuck is this

1715
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: guy about?

1716
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: Dude?

1717
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: What a while? She dm me so up. So enjoy

1718
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 2: the Kirk Cousins episode and the intro. I we'll get

1719
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: back on that. We'll get back on that vibe because

1720
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: that's man. The music out there is just endless. Dude.

1721
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see people's fucking top three albums

1722
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: of all time because you're gonna sit there and look

1723
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: at those comments, just be like, damn, that is a

1724
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: good one.

1725
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Speaker 2: Man. I did we have any ad reads? No?

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Speaker 3: Well, we can't shut out all of the women in

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01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 3: our lives, even though this will come out tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Today is International Women's Day. Shout out to the women

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Speaker 2: tailoring shout to Yeah, shout out to international women. Dude. Yeah,

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01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: Jack's living tonight. Did you uh? Did you talk about

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01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 2: at the beginning the spring tour tickets? No?

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01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: We when I'm not, I'm not joking like we like said,

1733
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a branking and talked about missing through

1734
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: a toilet and shitting and.

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01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: Then it's gonna go on the back side of Kirk. Yeah,

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01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 2: that's so funny.

1737
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: You can go on Bustings. Yeah, they can go on Bustings.

1738
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: It'll be on YouTube. We will tell you where it's at.

1739
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 2: I mean it's not but.

1740
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: Trust me, we're not breaking shit down that you guys need.

1741
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: To know about.

1742
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: But it is a fun little hang between the boys,

1743
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 1: The Post Show, the Post Show. Well with that, you

1744
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: remember the Post Show. Yeah, it was fun as a

1745
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: funny as hell, a couple of little episodes. But our

1746
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: spring tour tickets South Carolina and Texas, they're on sale.

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01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: They are on sale right now, and they're going fast.

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01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 6: They're going fast, fast, at a snail's pace, the fastest

1749
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 6: snailing the fuck.

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01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: The only thing you need to know is tickets are

1751
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: being bought. Yeah, tickets are being tickets. Don't wait too long, dude.

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01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: This is a classic tortoise and a hair situation.

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01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, were they one ticket at a time? Keep

1754
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 6: stacking the tickets, dude, Yeah, keep stacking a ticket.

1755
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: At a time.

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01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, And dude, shut out in Nashville, Bro, you fucking

1757
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: got our heads a little big with anies. Yeah, it's

1758
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a hell of a time. I don't care

1759
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: if there's six people and there's still them, no question.

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01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 6: If there's fifty there, yeah we're it's gonna be the

1761
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 6: greatest time in the fucking world world. Yeah, but anyway,

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01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 6: go go cop those Enjoy the Kirk Cousins episode by.

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01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: The merch Subscribe unsubscribed to subscribe. Three hundreds happened. We

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01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 1: achieve one goal. Let's go to the next four hundred.

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01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: K here we fucking come everywhere.

1766
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 2: We're rolling right the one. We're good.

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01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 1: Make sure when you when you talk, you have the

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01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: microphone up to your mouth. And Kirk he said that

1769
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: his kid, his oldest kid, is extremely smart, but he's

1770
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: not gonna be Michael Jordan, how does that make you feel?

1771
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: Would you rather your kid be smarter?

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01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm good.

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01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 9: I feel like I've played enough sports for several generations,

1774
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 9: so I'm good. What I would a nice, nice comment,

1775
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 9: But I would like to I would like to, uh

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01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 9: see my kids do well in school. So that's what

1777
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 9: we're set up. Well there, dude, on that note, you

1778
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 9: are like.

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Speaker 6: One of the trail brick blazers. I feel like for

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01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 6: getting guaranteed contrasts. I've tried talking about it. I mean,

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01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 6: I've talked about it several times about how you went

1782
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 6: about doing it, But can you walk everybody through how

1783
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 6: you put yourself in that situation to get the Was

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01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 6: it the first fully guaranteed yeah?

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01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 2: Back contrack that big, I think.

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01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 9: So I don't know quite going back, I don't quite

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01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 9: know all the history, but it was one hundred percent

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01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 9: my agent. I remember sitting at the Super Bowl after

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01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 9: my rookie year and Joe Flacco was about to be

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01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 9: a free agent, and he was also about to quarterback

1791
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 9: in the Super Bowl, and we sat there. I knew

1792
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 9: nothing about contracts, and my agent said, what the Ravens

1793
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 9: are going to be able to do is either sign

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01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 9: him to a long term deal or they're going to

1795
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 9: have to franchise tag him twice. And so the entire

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01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 9: negotiation will be based off of two franchise tags and

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01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 9: what those two franchise tags are worth, and that's what

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01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 9: they'll have to negotiate off of.

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Speaker 2: And so I didn't know.

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Speaker 9: Four years later I'd be in a similar spot where

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01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 9: I'd finish my season becoming to free agency, and my

1802
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 9: agent just said, this is Joe Flackel all over again.

1803
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 9: It's a two year franchise tag that'll be the foundation

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01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 9: of any negotiation. And he said, what I'd like to

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01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,480
Speaker 9: do is, because I see those two years being basically guaranteed,

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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 9: I'd like to just do a three year deal, fully guaranteed.

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01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 9: And he offered that to the team, and obviously they

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01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 9: were not interested in that model, and he just said, Okay,

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01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 9: then we'll do the two franchise tags and uh, you know,

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01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 9: two years from now. And I'm you know, simplifying it

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01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 9: a little bit, but he said, two years from now,

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01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 9: we'll go to Fregency and try to get that same deal,

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01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 9: a three year deal fully guaranteed.

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01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 2: And so that's literally what happened.

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Speaker 9: I just watched my agent basically exercised what he had

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01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 9: spoken about Joe Flacco after my rookie year, did it

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Speaker 9: with me, kind of called his shot, if you will,

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01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 9: and watched the next five years unfold exactly the way

1819
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 9: he said.

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01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: And there's some risk involved in doing that and the market.

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01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, well, injuries certainly, but if you don't play well.

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Speaker 9: And I think I was in a great spot because

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01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 9: I had great players around me, great coaches around me

1824
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 9: and was in a place where I felt I could

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 9: have success, I could be effective, and so I didn't

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01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 9: feel like I needed to just take a deal. I

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01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 9: think sometimes as a player, you take a deal because

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01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 9: you're concerned about maybe your play going down. And I thought, no,

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01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 9: I think I'm going to keep improving and I've got

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01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 9: great people around me, so I'm okay going year to year.

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Speaker 9: And certainly it worked out.

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Speaker 1: When you were going through the process with your agent

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01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: telling you that was there ever a point of resistance

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01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: for you? We're just like you talked about, like, hey, listen,

1835
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: like what about if I get injured? Things you can't control, right,

1836
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: everyone has confidence in their ability to play, but sometimes

1837
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: freak things happen on the field and there's nothing you

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01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: can do about it.

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Speaker 9: That's a great question. I think the short answer is no.

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01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 9: I was very comfortable with his plan and what he

1841
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 9: was doing. I knew there was risk, but I also

1842
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 9: felt like I had seen Tom Brady Terearor's ACL in

1843
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 9: two thousand and eight, and he comes back and plays

1844
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 9: another you know, decade plus. Yeah, you know, Carson Palmer's

1845
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 9: done the same thing. I think twice torn his knee

1846
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 9: and come back and play at a Pro Bowl level.

1847
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 9: So I felt like, even with an injury, you can

1848
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 9: come back at quarterback. I do think that the position

1849
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 9: was unique. There are other positions where I don't think

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01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 9: you would want.

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01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 2: To do what we did.

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01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 6: Now. I think what's cool about this is I got

1853
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 6: to sit with you several times, like we were boys

1854
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 6: on the skins and explain how it was important for

1855
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 6: you to even to get to free agency because you

1856
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 6: were thinking about that stuff ahead of time. I remember

1857
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 6: sitting with you in a meeting and talking like whenever

1858
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 6: the PA or anybody would talk about contracts in BacT,

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01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 6: what you need is somebody to get somebody higher you know,

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01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 6: and status to get to free agency so that way

1861
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 6: they can start the domino effect for this stuff.

1862
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 2: And I know that was like a goal of yours

1863
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: to do something like that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, my agent had always said that no real great

1865
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 9: player goes to the market. Teams don't let them leave

1866
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 9: their building. And you know that's so common to just

1867
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 9: take a good deal. I mean, I think it's smart.

1868
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 9: Why need to go to the market if a team

1869
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 9: is offering you a great deal that accomplishes what you're

1870
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 9: trying to accomplish, but he did always say that somebody

1871
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 9: going to the market is the only way you could

1872
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 9: actually get guaranteed money more than just one or two years.

1873
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 9: So that was part of why going to the market,

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01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,719
Speaker 9: it was part of why I think my agent wanted

1875
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 9: to get a fully guaranteed deal was, Hey, we did

1876
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 9: all this to get to the market.

1877
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 8: We're going to try to get this structure.

1878
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 9: But you know, it wasn't a model that I think

1879
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 9: a lot of people have tried to follow since then.

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01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 9: I think Deshaun Watson was was pretty much able to

1881
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 9: be a free agent while still having a contract.

1882
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: It's just a unique situation. So yeah, he's probably the.

1883
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 9: Other one who who was able to do it. But

1884
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 9: I do think there, you know, I've been guys who

1885
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 9: have benefited certainly from whenever another player goes to the market,

1886
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 9: another player does something.

1887
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 8: I think the whole league or all the players benefit

1888
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 8: from that in some way.

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01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you have the model of fully guaranteed

1890
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: contract and you're fully guaranteed, people are like that sounds amazing.

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01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 2: I do think that people have not followed that, like why,

1892
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:04,799
Speaker 2: because it seems like that's.

1893
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: When I was I met Will, when I was kind

1894
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: of going through my contract negotiations and he was already

1895
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: we just met, and he's like, why don't you do

1896
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: a fully guaranteed And I'm my brother like, I can't.

1897
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 1: I can't do that. Yeah, three weeks into our friendship,

1898
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: he's like, why don't you do a fully guaranteed And

1899
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think that's how the ship

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01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 1: works for men left tackle, because the way we've said

1901
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: this on our ship before is, uh, quarterbacks, them big

1902
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: time players need to be the ones to get the

1903
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed contract, so it becomes a normal thing, a

1904
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: trickle down effect for everybody else, position by position.

1905
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 2: And so you go and do it.

1906
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 1: You're the unicorn, and we don't know the whole history,

1907
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: but it seems like you're the only guy that's done

1908
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed contracts and it's worked. The bank account is

1909
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: really fantastic, and so why why do you think these

1910
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 1: players are not following suit with that?

1911
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 2: With that uh blueprint.

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Speaker 9: I think there's still pretty good contracts out there that

1913
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 9: are hard to turn down, and I think that it's

1914
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 9: still life changing, and I understand why they take the

1915
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 9: way they do the deals they do. I don't think

1916
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 9: you need to go to free agency. I think you

1917
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 9: can still have a great contract and change your life,

1918
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 9: your family's life. There's so much that again, it's you know,

1919
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 9: it's hard to turn down something that's on the table

1920
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 9: like that. I do remember when Matt Ryan was just

1921
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 9: like a month after I signed my Phrasian contract in Minnesota,

1922
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 9: Matt Ryan signed his five year extension and it was

1923
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 9: the first three years were guaranteed, but there were two

1924
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 9: more years on, so it wasn't a fully guaranteed deal.

1925
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 9: And I texted my agent to say, so, it sounds like,

1926
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 9: you know, the next quarterback wasn't going to follow our pattern,

1927
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 9: like you're asking. And my agent texted back and he said, no,

1928
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 9: actually the opposite. The three the first three years are

1929
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 9: fully guaranteed, and it's for a lot more than what

1930
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 9: you got.

1931
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 2: His point was like, he would never have gotten.

1932
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 9: That structure of three years fully guaranteed at the number

1933
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 9: he did unless you had done the deal you just

1934
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 9: did a month or two ago. Now he did tack

1935
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 9: two years on to make it more money in the

1936
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 9: front end too, yeap, But he uh, you know, it

1937
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 9: was it was still a favorable deal for him in

1938
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 9: those first three years because so that's my point that

1939
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 9: you kind of can build on the previous person each time.

1940
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 9: And I've been kind of removed from it for a

1941
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 9: while now because once I got to Minnesota and got

1942
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 9: out of free agency, I was just kind of focused on,

1943
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 9: you know, being there as long as I can, and

1944
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 9: I even after I went to the playoffs in nineteen,

1945
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 9: signed a two year extension that wasn't fully guaranteed as signing.

1946
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 9: So for me, it's just kind of been trying to

1947
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 9: you know, trying to win, trying to stay in Minnesota

1948
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 9: and create a winning situation there.

1949
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: When you're talking about your agent telling you that franchises

1950
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: don't let great players leave the area, there was there

1951
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: a piece of you, or maybe some ego that was like, well,

1952
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a guy that has to leave.

1953
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: I value myself as a player. I am like, was

1954
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 1: there ever a time where you were fighting with staying

1955
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:51,919
Speaker 1: with the then called the Redskins.

1956
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 4: Uh?

1957
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 9: No, you know, I think there's first of all, everybody's

1958
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 9: in their own scenario. You know, I was a fourth

1959
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 9: round pick, didn't really play a lot until my fourth year,

1960
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 9: so I understand, like, you know, it's different than being

1961
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 9: a first round pick who starts all four years. You know,

1962
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 9: so I'm aware that you know, you can move on,

1963
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 9: players move on.

1964
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 2: It happens.

1965
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 9: I remember Greg Olsen is probably a great example of

1966
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 9: a guy who to this day I always wonder like

1967
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 9: why was he allowed to go to free agency and

1968
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 9: leave and go to Carolina? But he was and he did,

1969
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 9: And so it does sometimes happen, but it's it's uncommon,

1970
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 9: you know. I remember Coach Cruden saying to me, like,

1971
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 9: we'd love to draft a tackle at one point in

1972
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 9: my time there, We'd love to draft a tackle, but

1973
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 9: you know they're not They're not like you have to

1974
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 9: draft one because great tackles are not available on free

1975
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 9: agency typically because a team who has a.

1976
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 8: Great tackle does not let them just walk out of

1977
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 8: their building.

1978
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 9: And so there's a few positions where it's like, man,

1979
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 9: we'd love to sign that in free agency, but they

1980
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 9: just don't exist. And uh, because guys do sign deals

1981
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 9: before going to the market.

1982
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: Why don't you think you could have got something to

1983
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:57,879
Speaker 2: done with Washington?

1984
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: You know what?

1985
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 9: Really the message was from my agent was we want

1986
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 9: to go to the market, and if Washington is the

1987
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 9: best deal when you go to the market or the

1988
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 9: best opportunity I should say, then let's go back to Washington.

1989
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,560
Speaker 9: That was my attitude. But where I was naive was

1990
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 9: thinking that Washington would wait on me. And they were

1991
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 9: smart because they said remember when Jay called me the

1992
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 9: day after they traded for Alex Smith, he just said,

1993
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 9: we couldn't wait on you. And I remember thinking, oh, yeah,

1994
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 9: like that makes sense. You can't just you can't just

1995
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 9: wait on me and then be left at the altar.

1996
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 9: You were smart to go proactively get a quarterback and

1997
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 9: have a plan, But the whole process for me was

1998
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 9: I still think Washington is very much the best spot

1999
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 9: for me. I would just like to go to the

2000
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 9: market first and see what is out there, and then

2001
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 9: if it's Washington, it's Washington. And I think that's the

2002
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 9: thing that people don't maybe realize is when you're drafted

2003
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 9: out of college, you're drafted, you're told what your contract is,

2004
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 9: and then your friendanchise tagged or you sign an extension,

2005
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 9: and no one ever really gets to pick their situation

2006
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 9: or see what's out there for them or truly be

2007
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 9: a free agent. So I just wanted to see that.

2008
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 9: But if it's Washington, after looking around, then it's Washington.

2009
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 9: I actually thought it probably could or would be. Yea,

2010
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 9: they just said, we just can't wait on you, and

2011
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,799
Speaker 9: I thought, you know, you're right, that's smart.

2012
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 8: You really can't.

2013
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 2: You know, wait.

2014
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 6: Was there anything Washington could that could have done that

2015
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 6: could have changed your messaging from we want to go

2016
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 6: to the market, because you'd almost think like your messaging

2017
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 6: is like, oh, we'd like to go to the market,

2018
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 6: but if you're happy where you're at, you kind of

2019
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 6: want to yeah, long term place or anything they could

2020
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 6: have done that they didn't do.

2021
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 8: I don't think so. I think that.

2022
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 9: You know, when Sean McVay moved on, you know, that

2023
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 9: was tough to see him go. There have been so

2024
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 9: many good coaches there that had left.

2025
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 1: Brother will talk about what you guys had in there,

2026
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: and it's just crazy, Hey, you guys.

2027
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I remember.

2028
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 9: That was the huge blessing of being in Washington, in

2029
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 9: addition to the players I got to play with, was

2030
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 9: to look back and say, because you know how much

2031
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 9: coaching matters in this league, to be able to say

2032
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 9: I got coached by Mike Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan, Matt Lafleur,

2033
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 9: Mike McDaniel, Sean McVay, Matt Cavanaugh, Jay Gruden, like, these

2034
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 9: are the people in the quarterback room. And you know,

2035
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 9: even Raheem Morris would come down the hall and sit

2036
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 9: in in the quarterback room in OTAs when we would

2037
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 9: stay extra and stuff. It was like really really and

2038
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 9: I didn't know what at the time, which I wish

2039
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 9: I did. I just thought this must be what every

2040
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 9: quarterback room is like, and it isn't. And so to

2041
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 9: get that foundation there was career changing for me.

2042
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, when when you left, when you left Washington in

2043
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: the last few years, all the stuff that's come out

2044
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 1: about the franchise, the owner, Like, were you aware of

2045
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 1: any of that stuff going on at the time or

2046
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,600
Speaker 1: was it a complete like blindside for you?

2047
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, you saw me different stuff has come out and

2048
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 9: I haven't followed that closely since I left, but uh yeah,

2049
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 9: I at times. Their other thing is like reports, You're like,

2050
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 9: well are these even true? I don't even know if

2051
01:26:58,920 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 9: these are true?

2052
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 6: So mainstream media media was I mean, you always felt

2053
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 6: like there was a cloud out there no matter what.

2054
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 9: You just shrugged your shoulders and you're just like, I

2055
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 9: don't know the major media market, right, you were saying

2056
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 9: when you came to the Titans, it's like a way different.

2057
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 2: It's a way different vibe. I think.

2058
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 6: So I feel like to the big leagues, right, like

2059
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 6: people come through there now you see them on TV

2060
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 6: and everything else. But yeah, going to Tennessee and rack

2061
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 6: put was like, hey, comp like, he's gonna be way

2062
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 6: He's gonna be way different.

2063
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 2: It's way different hot and you just see a few

2064
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 2: reporters standing.

2065
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 6: I mean in DC, it's just like it feels like

2066
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 6: it's just NonStop to where what's the contrast going to Minnesota.

2067
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 2: When you first started to see what was going on

2068
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 2: in Minnesota with the media.

2069
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is a little different market in Minnesota. I

2070
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 9: didn't mind the DC market. I thought that everybody was fair,

2071
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 9: and I think that at times ignorance was bliss for

2072
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 9: me and I just tried this to remove myself from

2073
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 9: it as best I could.

2074
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 8: But even going back to playing Washington.

2075
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 9: This year and seeing some of the local, uh, you know,

2076
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 9: day to day coverage of the team, seeing those guys

2077
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 9: in the tunnel, you know, it's fun to catch up

2078
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 9: with them and see them. But yeah, Minnesota is uh

2079
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 9: they do a really good job there of really you know,

2080
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 9: trying to get it right and to follow it. And

2081
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 9: there's a like Washington, there's a historic franchise there, there's

2082
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 9: a there's a fan base that goes back decades that

2083
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 9: has followed the team closely. And I think that's huge.

2084
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 9: You know, when we go play on the road at

2085
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 9: Miami or even at Washington, like the Lower Bowl on

2086
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 9: our sideline is mostly purple, and I think that's that's

2087
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 9: not every team, and so that's huge to be able

2088
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:26,560
Speaker 9: to play for a team like that.

2089
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 4: That's yeah.

2090
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: So going to uh, going to Minnesota, you guys, there's

2091
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 1: so much talent on that team. Is what is it

2092
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 1: going to take for Minnesota to become true contenders in

2093
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 1: the NFL?

2094
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 9: Well, I think when you win thirteen games, you know

2095
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 9: you're doing something right. So I do think we were

2096
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 9: able to find the inches this past year, which the

2097
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 9: previous year we were not. We felt we had a

2098
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 9: really good football team in twenty twenty one and we

2099
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 9: just were unable to find those inches. And in this league,

2100
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 9: those inches kind of ore everything because we're all pretty good.

2101
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 9: So we found them more on twenty twenty two to

2102
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 9: get to thirteen wins. But if you kind of looked

2103
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 9: behind the numbers, you could kind of see there were

2104
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 9: some spots where we.

2105
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 2: Can be a lot better.

2106
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 9: So, you know, and again, we have like a high

2107
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 9: number of free agents this year, so you feel like

2108
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 9: coming back for Otia's in April, that the locker room

2109
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 9: will be a lot different. And I don't like that

2110
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 9: feeling because I liked our group so much. So I'm

2111
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 9: really hoping we can re sign as many of these

2112
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 9: guys as possible and try to keep the group together

2113
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 9: as best we can. But NFL stands for not for long,

2114
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,799
Speaker 9: so you know that it's always changing.

2115
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 1: What position group do you think like this is a

2116
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 1: tough one because it's like there's gonna be guys they're

2117
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: going to hear this that play these position groups where

2118
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: we Do you think you were lacking on the offensive

2119
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: side of the ball this year?

2120
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 2: Was it offensive line? Yeah?

2121
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 9: I mean I would often say, like I go into

2122
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 9: games and I don't feel like we are lacking the horses,

2123
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 9: which is huge because I think there are quarterbacks who

2124
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 9: break the huddle and they're like, man, we got limitations here.

2125
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 9: I don't feel that, you know, I think more my

2126
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 9: concern is like a lot of those guys that I

2127
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 9: didn't feel we were lacking. Are free agents, you know,

2128
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 9: Garrett Bradbers or free agent Alex Madison's are free agents.

2129
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 9: So that's more of the challenges. Can we bring those

2130
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 9: guys back? And I also think we were in year

2131
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 9: one with our head coach, with our system. While there's

2132
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 9: some similarities and carry over to every system, there were

2133
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 9: also a lot that was new. So I do think

2134
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 9: that to be in year two together as a group

2135
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 9: would also really help take next steps to really feel like,

2136
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 9: okay OTA's is not feeling like your rookie year all

2137
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 9: over again, but feeling like y're two in this, in

2138
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 9: this system, in this program.

2139
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: When you're with those guys being free agents, do you

2140
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 1: is there a level of relationship you have with upstairs

2141
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: where you can be like, hey, I want to keep

2142
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 1: these guys around.

2143
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2144
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 9: I mean when you say that, I know the answer

2145
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 9: back is so would we. Yeah, there's a salary cap

2146
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 9: and there's uh, we.

2147
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 2: Both know the salar caps not real.

2148
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 9: It's a They definitely can can work through things to

2149
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 9: push money out.

2150
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 2: But I think that.

2151
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 9: Players I got we just started this conversation saying we'd

2152
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 9: like to go to the market. I think there's value

2153
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 9: in that. I think so is Carrit Bradbury and Alex

2154
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 9: Mesin going to say that that, hey, we want to

2155
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 9: go to the market too and see what's out there

2156
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 9: and so and I you know, when I say to them,

2157
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 9: I say, I want you back as a Viking, I

2158
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,799
Speaker 9: also want what's best for you and for your family

2159
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 9: in this business. And and you understand that, and they

2160
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 9: understand that, and so anyways, it's that's where I think

2161
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 9: the NFL has succeeded as a business, is that they

2162
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 9: make February interesting, they make March interesting, they make April interesting.

2163
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 9: Like there's very few months of the year where you're like,

2164
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 9: there's not something that's very followable about this league, and

2165
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 9: somehow they've done that better than I think any other

2166
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 9: sports league.

2167
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 1: It's a fine line between wanting guys to stick around

2168
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 1: for the betterment of the team and for you and

2169
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 1: also wanting them to get what they.

2170
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 4: Deserve, right.

2171
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 9: That is the difficult part of this business that I

2172
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 9: dislike is that because it's not a true like free market,

2173
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 9: there is a callery cap You had his dance of man,

2174
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 9: I want I want them to be on our team

2175
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 9: playing with us, But I also want what's best for them,

2176
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 9: and you're like, ah, and so you do have to

2177
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 9: treat it like a business and not take it personal

2178
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 9: when a guy moves on because you know that that

2179
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 9: was what was best for him.

2180
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 2: The character of chains, let's talk about that about it?

2181
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 2: How did that get going? Yeah?

2182
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 10: You and you embracing it getting shirtless on the plane,

2183
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 10: or you're the guy with a sleepy six pack. Yeah,

2184
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,599
Speaker 10: and I'm sleepy that you don't really And for somebody

2185
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 10: who boxed the glasses on, you're like, you're gonna, oh ship,

2186
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:33,639
Speaker 10: the dude's gotta wash.

2187
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 2: Going on a little bit too. I like that who

2188
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 2: blocks out the noise? You know, he was kind of

2189
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 2: taking that one in.

2190
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 1: He has he doesn't have notifications on a Twitter, but

2191
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: that one.

2192
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh.

2193
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 9: Started on the way back from London, Christian dearrisa. I

2194
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 9: had just got in his chain with c d on

2195
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 9: it with the spinner and and we we wanted London

2196
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 9: on a double doint miss field goal by the same

2197
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 9: you want to talk about finding the inches, Yeah, the

2198
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 9: thing going south to side bar, off the crossbar and

2199
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 9: back out towards the field. And so we got an

2200
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 9: eight hour flight back to Minnesota and I hop on

2201
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 9: the plane and it's like a nightclub. I mean, people

2202
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 9: got boomboxes rocking. You know, guys got whatever they want.

2203
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 9: They're just sitting on the no one's sitting. Everybody's kind

2204
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 9: of standing in the aisles and kneeling on their chair

2205
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 9: and stuff. And yeah, somewhere in that before we'd taken off,

2206
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 9: I think we might even been delayed to take off.

2207
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 9: So guys are just trying to you know, have fun

2208
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 9: with the time. And his chain ends up on me,

2209
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 9: and uh, well it's not as he just fell on you,

2210
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 9: right like me, So on the way to London, sitting there.

2211
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 1: And like all just oriented, they grabbed you and held

2212
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: you down, like put the cane on Kirk.

2213
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 2: Well, I'm kind of I'm kind of putting on CD

2214
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 2: on blast year.

2215
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 9: But on the way to London, I'm like, you know,

2216
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 9: locked in, Like I got my my you know, light

2217
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 9: glasses to block out the light. I'm trying to get adjusted.

2218
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,679
Speaker 9: I've I got my sleep, I know, like the rhythm

2219
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 9: of like get your food. Then this time you go

2220
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 9: down to sleep like I'm trying to be locked in. Yeah,

2221
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 9: I lay down to sleep. I'm like twenty minutes of

2222
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:01,640
Speaker 9: sleep and behind me, someone's just like sawing logs and

2223
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 9: I'm like, oh no, like I got like six hours

2224
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 9: and I can't sleep.

2225
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 8: I put on like headphones, I still hear him. It's CD,

2226
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:09,719
Speaker 8: like he's.

2227
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 2: Right behind me. And we finally land in London.

2228
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 9: And Zadarius wakes up and he looks back and he's like, CD, man, like,

2229
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 9: you got to get that fixed. Like that's crazy to

2230
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 9: work on that show. Because I was like, here's right

2231
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 9: right there, and you heard him. I'm sitting right here

2232
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 9: next to him.

2233
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:24,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2234
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 9: So anyway, so that was on the way there. By

2235
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 9: the way back, ceed's still right behind me and so yeah,

2236
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 9: he he. We're just kind of all hanging out, you know,

2237
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 9: enjoying the music and socializing and yeah, next thing I know,

2238
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 9: someone's put the chain around me and they got it.

2239
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 9: Next thing, you know, I don't even know how to

2240
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 9: how to tie it up, but uh, but they put

2241
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 9: it on me and then and then you know, power

2242
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 9: of social media. So you didn't ask for the chain,

2243
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 9: You didn't say, hey, I'm him, I didn't ask for it,

2244
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 9: but uh, but the spinner was also kind of a

2245
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 9: huge part of it. Was big Fish Spinner I can't

2246
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 9: exactly get it long enough for them to get it

2247
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 9: on you. Yeah, so then the next away victory, coming back,

2248
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,440
Speaker 9: you know, it's just same thing. Although it was everybody's

2249
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 9: chain and then and then from there it was this year,

2250
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,560
Speaker 9: it's got to come off, and then from there I

2251
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 9: know where to go, which was a mistake. My big

2252
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 9: biggest regret from the season, besides losing in the playoffs,

2253
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 9: was that I didn't get a grill.

2254
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 1: Oh, you would be outstanding with a grill. Could you

2255
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 1: imagine you're showing up in August. There's still time, but

2256
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: in August with a grill, So I can't imagine. I

2257
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 1: think it'd be epic. I can Yeah, I don't know

2258
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 1: that world either.

2259
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 4: What that is?

2260
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 2: What you just said? I don't know. Yeah, you know

2261
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,719
Speaker 2: that world, I wink it's a must.

2262
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 9: I think it would have been better though this season,

2263
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 9: you know, while it was still fresh, always still had

2264
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:44,560
Speaker 9: the momentum. I know.

2265
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: I think you show up January twenty fifth at the

2266
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 1: first press conference of the Minnesota Vikings season opening press

2267
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 1: conference and you have a dark gold, like that grungy gold.

2268
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 2: Thing, Like that's why I didn't get done?

2269
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 9: Was like, Okay, where do I get one in terms

2270
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 9: of like, I probably gonna go like a dentist to

2271
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 9: get it shaped or whatever. And then where do I

2272
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 9: go to get the actual paraphernalia on there?

2273
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 4: Oh?

2274
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 9: I don't know, but but JJ did say he because

2275
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 9: he has one. He's like, I got you, you know,

2276
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 9: I got all the people. I just never I never like,

2277
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 9: I never like moved on it to actually get it done.

2278
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: So so this season, are we going to see you

2279
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 2: with a with a grill at some point?

2280
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 9: You think, I don't know, I don't know. That's that's

2281
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 9: I mean, it's still early in twenty twenty three July.

2282
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 2: You want to see that, don't you. So I'll be

2283
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 2: outstanding if you do that. You should get faked back

2284
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 2: the whole thing.

2285
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 9: For me, the best part of the whole thing for

2286
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 9: me was the timing of wearing the chains and then

2287
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 9: the coming back from Miami. I had like a white

2288
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 9: T shirt on and black like athletic pants our travel suit. Yeah,

2289
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 9: the white T shirt, the chains and the black travel suit.

2290
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 9: And then we come back from the bye week. It's

2291
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:48,799
Speaker 9: right around Halloween, and we go to play the Cardinals

2292
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,640
Speaker 9: the day before Halloween, and there's all these fans in

2293
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,560
Speaker 9: warm ups with black pants, a white T shirt and

2294
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 9: chains as I tucked in as a Halloween costume, and

2295
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 9: I was like, that's when you know this is bigger

2296
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 9: than me, like when it was becoming a Halloween costume

2297
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 9: in Minnesota. This is fund And then you get a

2298
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 9: little kid at Thanksgiving and the Thanksgiving game, a little

2299
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 9: kid who's wearing shirtless the whole game would change.

2300
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 2: Sitting in his chair, dude, I.

2301
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 6: Love that you You mentioned you mentioned a minute ago

2302
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 6: biggest regret losing the playoffs.

2303
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 2: What is your biggest regret of that game? And why

2304
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 2: is it?

2305
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 6: Third down throwing a yeah, a three yard route on

2306
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 6: fourth and eleven game?

2307
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, so third down on the final drive, we got

2308
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 9: man coverage for a play that is meant to be

2309
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 9: man coverage. And I can't remember if we had a

2310
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 9: can on it, if we didn't get mad or what,

2311
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 9: but we got man and I'm thinking, yes, like this

2312
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 9: is perfect and.

2313
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 8: The ball, you know, man coverage is going to be

2314
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:46,759
Speaker 8: tight coverage.

2315
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 9: And the ball was throwing like one foot behind kJ

2316
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 9: Osborne and if it's just a foot out in front

2317
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 9: of him, he catches that runs up and we're now

2318
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 9: hopefully in the strike zone, high red zone with a

2319
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,680
Speaker 9: chance to go, it would probably go for two and

2320
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 9: try to win the game right there.

2321
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 8: So that was the most frustrating to play fourth.

2322
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 9: Down, you know, with where my read went and where

2323
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 9: my eyes went and Dexter Lawrence was coming, I felt

2324
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 9: like my options were either throw it out to TJ

2325
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 9: or take a sack in that moment. And if I

2326
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 9: had taken a sack, the optics probably look better. It

2327
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 9: probably looks like, you know, ah man, I got to

2328
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,560
Speaker 9: protect him, you know, but when you get rid of

2329
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 9: the ball to avoid the sack, then it looks like

2330
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 9: you're the idiot. So but certainly third down was where

2331
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 9: I was felt like I was the idiot by not

2332
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 9: making that throw when you knew it was when you

2333
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 9: as man coverage and you threw a foot off. Did

2334
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 9: you bring that into the fourth down? Was there trouble

2335
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 9: with the memory?

2336
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 2: What's important?

2337
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 4: Now?

2338
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 2: What's next? Next play?

2339
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 9: You know, when we say cliche the game is played

2340
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,799
Speaker 9: one play at a time, that's really how it's played.

2341
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 9: Like you play whatever happens you next play, and you

2342
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:55,560
Speaker 9: just go next play, next by next play, And that

2343
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 9: includes like fourth and eighteen against Buffalo when the play

2344
01:38:58,520 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 9: comes in, Like you don't have a play for fourth

2345
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 9: and eight team, but when the play comes in, you're like, okay,

2346
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 9: next play. How do we execute fourth and eighteen? If

2347
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:06,560
Speaker 9: we're calling this route and this concept and you know

2348
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 9: there's a time out. In that moment, you're able to

2349
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 9: kind of talk with the team like, Hey, this is

2350
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 9: the plan. This is how we're gonna execute this. You

2351
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 9: understand percentages are low, but you also have to have

2352
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 9: a plan.

2353
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,719
Speaker 2: JJ's up there somewhere. Yeah, exactly when.

2354
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 6: There is no next play in your right you're jogging

2355
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 6: off the field. What's going through your head at that

2356
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 6: time when it's all when it really.

2357
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 2: Is over, and you're like fuck yeah, not a good feeling.

2358
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 9: And what's funny about our team this year is because

2359
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 9: we had always kind of found a way in those

2360
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 9: one score games, like in Buffalo when.

2361
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 2: They fumble and we get watched down on their one

2362
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 2: yard line.

2363
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 9: There's a part of you even that's like, as you're

2364
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 9: walking off not converting that fourth down, you're kind of

2365
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 9: like still believing, like, what what could happen?

2366
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 2: What's the but you realize, no, they're just gonna go

2367
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 2: out and take a knee. And like it's over.

2368
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 8: Do you ever it's hard to accept it.

2369
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 6: Do you ever think like, did you ever think during

2370
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 6: that time frame, like I'm gonna get killed for this

2371
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 6: because there's this, there's this, there's this of Kirk.

2372
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 2: Cousins that I saw I'll fight anybody over.

2373
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2374
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 2: That.

2375
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 6: It's like, the man's gonna get you four thousand yards. Ye,

2376
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 6: he's going to get you one of the better qbrs.

2377
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:03,719
Speaker 6: He's going to get you one of the better ratios

2378
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 6: in the league. But when it comes down to that

2379
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 6: killer instinct moment or just a play that anybody turns

2380
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 6: to say that fourth and eleven or the image when

2381
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 6: you when it doesn't happen for you, it's like, you know,

2382
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 6: people's mind might go there, even though you've won big

2383
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 6: games and everything else. Do you feel like you hear

2384
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 6: that and do you feel like it's something It's like, man,

2385
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 6: I got to shake this at some point.

2386
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 8: Well, I think playing quarterback you'll always have that.

2387
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 9: I think that you want to make sure that you

2388
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,719
Speaker 9: care about the people who are in a position to judge.

2389
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 9: So people are in a position to judge, like I

2390
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 9: need I need to hear it. I need to be

2391
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 9: coached by it and you listen to it. I need

2392
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:36,600
Speaker 9: to fix it.

2393
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 8: People aren't a position to judge.

2394
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 9: I think you can drive yourself crazy if you try to,

2395
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 9: you know, prioritize that or listen to that, and people

2396
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 9: are going to say what they what they kind of

2397
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 9: want to say. So yeah, you have to be big

2398
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 9: enough to just block it out if you will, or

2399
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 9: if you hear it, to just be able to be

2400
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 9: the bigger person and just move forward. But you know,

2401
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 9: it's not even be the bigger person because they have

2402
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 9: a job to do and if their job is to

2403
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 9: criticize or to point, then they're doing their job and

2404
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 9: that's fine. So you know, you and you understand, like

2405
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 9: guys like Tom Brady get it like they get they get,

2406
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 9: you know, stuff thrown at them when all they've done

2407
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 9: is win seven Super Bowls.

2408
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 8: So you know, you understand it. You're no one's immune

2409
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 8: to it. No one's immune to it.

2410
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 9: You just you just try to play the best you

2411
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 9: can and find ways to win and be as successful

2412
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,560
Speaker 9: as you can. And I know that winning tends to

2413
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 9: secure a lot because there were games where I would

2414
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 9: walk away feeling like, man, I should really get it,

2415
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 9: you know, after this game, come away from this game,

2416
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 9: but we won, and I'd go to the postgame press

2417
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 9: and it'd be so easy because we won. People just

2418
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 9: didn't give me a hard time. So I do feel

2419
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 9: like winning kind of covers over everything. And then the

2420
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 9: opposite is true if you're playing out of your mind

2421
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 9: but you're losing, like as a quarterback, like must be

2422
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 9: something wrong with you, you know?

2423
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 6: Is that? Does that ever get difficult with dealing with

2424
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 6: like going through the noise? Because you have a good

2425
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 6: head on your shoulders, you always have to do a

2426
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 6: good job compartmentalizing, as you know, the mental game is

2427
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 6: something you.

2428
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 2: Have to constantly work on.

2429
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 6: Well said, do some of those years or some of

2430
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 6: those moments are they more difficult than others?

2431
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, I.

2432
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 9: I mean I could go on and on about how

2433
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,679
Speaker 9: you know you don't sleep well night after a loss

2434
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 9: or a week, you know, going a week like we

2435
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 9: lose to the Packers week seventeen. I think it was

2436
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 9: like I don't sleep well for like three days, you know,

2437
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 9: and uh, it just weighs. You internalize it too much

2438
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 9: where you have to say, like you know, there's something

2439
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 9: wrong with me, like how do I how do I

2440
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 9: work through this so that I can handle it better

2441
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 9: because this isn't sustainable. And what you know, coach McVeigh

2442
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 9: has kind of dealt with of do I keep coaching

2443
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 9: or not. I think that a lot of us as

2444
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 9: players kind of go through that every year of like

2445
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 9: do I come back for another year or do I

2446
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 9: subject myself to that? Because it's not from the outside,

2447
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 9: it's like internal torment that you do to yourself, you

2448
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 9: know where I've heard Tom Brady say and I would

2449
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:58,719
Speaker 9: agree wholeheartedly with this that I hope my two boys,

2450
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 9: Cooper and Turner, find a passion that that they can

2451
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 9: have in life the way I found football. But I

2452
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 9: hope they never feel the torment that football has also

2453
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 9: given me, just because of the way I internalize it

2454
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 9: and the way I grind at it. The game does

2455
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 9: kind of torment you in a way that I hope

2456
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 9: my boys never have to experience.

2457
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, what does the future look like for you? Well,

2458
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 6: talk about those conversations. Yeah, it's a conversation you probably had.

2459
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you know, Julie and I after the

2460
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 9: season we talk and it's like are we are we

2461
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:34,560
Speaker 9: going back around the horn again? And right now, you know,

2462
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 9: we feel yes, you know, we want to keep going,

2463
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 9: but it does feel very year to year, you know,

2464
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:42,560
Speaker 9: in terms of every year, what are you going to

2465
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 9: do next? And uh, you know, for me, it's just

2466
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 9: trying to trying to win a Super Bowl, trying to

2467
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 9: win as many games as we can and do whatever

2468
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 9: it kind of whatever it takes to to to do

2469
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 9: that to get there. And hopefully that's you know, keeping

2470
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 9: our locker room together and taking another big step in

2471
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 9: twenty twenty three and and then you know, go from there.

2472
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:08,600
Speaker 1: I want to pivot to college because I want to.

2473
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: I went to Michigan, Yes you did, which is a

2474
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: long ways from Phoenix.

2475
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a long way from Phoenix. But good

2476
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 2: for you.

2477
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I appreciate that. I was a

2478
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 1: desert rat. I just wanted to see four seasons and

2479
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 1: I found out real quick.

2480
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 2: I don't like that.

2481
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 1: No, I think you've learned real fast. Yeah, I'll learned

2482
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: real fast. Why did you make the mistake of going

2483
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: to Michigan State. Uh, well, you make the mistake of.

2484
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 9: Going to Michigan State, And that's what you want to

2485
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,839
Speaker 9: call it when you don't have any other options Michigan.

2486
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 8: Michigan didn't offer, Michigan never offered.

2487
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 9: They got a guy named Ryan Mallett in my recruiting

2488
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 9: class from Texas who committed so early that they were

2489
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 9: pretty much not even looking, and you were the better

2490
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 9: get there.

2491
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 2: Well, my journey was bloomer, very late, blamer. What's he doing?

2492
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 8: Do you even know what he's doing?

2493
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 4: Now?

2494
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 8: I don't a pro career, but yeah, he was a I.

2495
01:44:59,439 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 4: Can and I know that.

2496
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 9: Wouldn't have worked out well for me because Lloyd Carr

2497
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 9: retired after my freshman year.

2498
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:06,560
Speaker 8: Coach Rodriguez comes in.

2499
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 9: Probably wouldn't have fit his system as well as Nard

2500
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 9: Robinson did, so probably wouldn't have worked out for me either.

2501
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 8: But Michigan stand the other hand, was a perfect fit.

2502
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 9: You got to go on a pro style offense, got

2503
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 9: to have the same head coach, same quarterback coach all

2504
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 9: five years, got to play with great players all around me.

2505
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 9: They just kept recruiting better and better every year, and

2506
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 9: it could not have worked out better, Which is funny

2507
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 9: because I was not a big recruit, and so typically

2508
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 9: when you're a big recruit, you got to go somewhere

2509
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 9: that maybe you don't want to go to.

2510
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 2: As much or may not be as good of a fit.

2511
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:35,600
Speaker 9: But for me not being a big recruit and not

2512
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 9: having any big ten offers in Michigan State offering. I

2513
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 9: look back and I say, if I had had fifty

2514
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 9: offers and could have gone to Michigan or Notre Dame

2515
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 9: or these other places, I probably would have made a

2516
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 9: bad decision. Like it's a good thing that Michigan State

2517
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 9: was my only option because it sent me to a

2518
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 9: place that literally could not have been better.

2519
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 1: When do you go into the rivalry for the Paul

2520
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 1: Bunyan Trophy, Like what is how? What's like Michigan State's

2521
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 1: like rally rally, cry to beat Michigan. They're pompous, they

2522
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:04,520
Speaker 1: think they're better than you. It's a good questioner, assholes,

2523
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 1: I think. I remember we lost in seven. We were

2524
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 1: up ten with seven minutes left. I'm read storting, I'm

2525
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 1: not playing. I say we we lost by We lost

2526
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 1: on she had Henny and Mario Manningham. I think a

2527
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns and we lose. And I remember walking

2528
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 1: off the field and there was a blue and yellow,

2529
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 1: amazing blue sign in the audience in the crowd that

2530
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 1: just said still arrogant. And I remember kind of walking

2531
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 1: off like yep, yep, yep, And so I think that

2532
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 1: was kind of the the motivation then for those next

2533
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 1: four years, and uh crushed us, right you had three

2534
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 1: and one again, Yeah, we did, and we didn't like

2535
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: two thousand yeah, well the time I was there, well, two.

2536
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 2: Thousand and eight I didn't play.

2537
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 9: We won in the Big House, and then twenty nine, ten,

2538
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 9: eleven I played, but.

2539
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 2: You guys won. Yeah, yeah, but but still I went

2540
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 2: gonna be like, we dropped one.

2541
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 10: In the next three years I played, Yeah, don't even

2542
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 10: know he won, just I played Michigan.

2543
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair to Michigan. It was the

2544
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 1: Dark years, correct turnover with Coach Rodriguez. Every year I

2545
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 1: was at Michigan would qualify as the Dark Years.

2546
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 9: So Coach Carr retires, he kind of built a certain

2547
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 9: style of play, and then Coach Riguez comes in with

2548
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:17,719
Speaker 9: kind of a different, different style. He's got to recruit

2549
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:19,640
Speaker 9: his guys, and then by the time he had done that,

2550
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 9: he was like, oh, and now Coach Hope comes in

2551
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 9: to try to return to what Coach Carr was doing

2552
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 9: to some degree, but it was almost like now we

2553
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 9: still have Now we have Coach Rodd's players. So there

2554
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 9: were there was a lot of terms, so it was

2555
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 9: kind of timing wise, it was good timing to be

2556
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 9: Michigan State, if you will.

2557
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:34,639
Speaker 2: It was terrible.

2558
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 4: It was terrible.

2559
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 9: Well, but uh yeah, it's just for me. I grew

2560
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 9: up in the state. You were from Phoenix. I grew

2561
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 9: up in the States. So like I knew, if I

2562
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:45,720
Speaker 9: go back to Holland, Michigan, there's going to be a

2563
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:47,600
Speaker 9: lot of people there that are amazed and blue and

2564
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 9: a lot of people that are green and white. And

2565
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 9: so it's very very personal, very real to me. And

2566
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 9: Coach Dantonio would always say that you win this game,

2567
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 9: you walk the streets, not the alleys of your hometown.

2568
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 2: And I would sit there there and I would nod

2569
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 2: my head, like that's absolutely right.

2570
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 9: Like I know eighth Street in downtown Holland, and I

2571
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 9: know I'm going to be on a street in downtown

2572
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 9: Holland the rest of my life. And I know that

2573
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:12,560
Speaker 9: I'm trying to walk the streets of that town the

2574
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 9: rest of my life. And so when we won my

2575
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 9: senior year, to have won four in a row, and

2576
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:20,680
Speaker 9: I knew that in the years I played, we were

2577
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 9: three and oh that's when I said it at the

2578
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 9: press conference, like I'm going to walk the streets in

2579
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 9: my hometown the rest of my life. And I'm not

2580
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 9: saying this like with any kind of hyperbole. I'm literally

2581
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 9: going to walk the streets to my town with the

2582
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 9: Michigan State symbol on, knowing that like when I was there,

2583
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 9: we took care of business. So it is personal and

2584
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 9: it is very real to me because I grew up

2585
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 9: in the state.

2586
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,719
Speaker 2: Hey, that's that was fire. That was really good. I'm upset.

2587
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:49,839
Speaker 2: Yeah what about now though? Now how good Michigan?

2588
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: So they get back to walking the streets because they've

2589
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 1: been tucked into the alleys for a.

2590
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 8: Couple of years.

2591
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 9: My freshman year or my sorry, my rookie year with Washington,

2592
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,680
Speaker 9: we lost in Michigan State lost a Notre Dame, and

2593
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 9: I would be like, you know, upset.

2594
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:04,799
Speaker 8: I was like, ah, you know, and I'm a rookie.

2595
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 9: And Rex Grossmith said to me is like, I think

2596
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 9: every year you're in the NFL longer, you kind of

2597
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 9: lose touch with your college program more and more.

2598
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 8: It's just kind of the way it goes.

2599
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 9: You'll kind of look back in your ten like I'm

2600
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 9: at and you'll kind of be like, yeah, I'm not

2601
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 9: as close to the program as it used to be,

2602
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 9: and I think that's true.

2603
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, I think I think it's true.

2604
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 9: I just you know, Coachy Antonio is retired now, all

2605
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 9: that staff has moved on. I don't know anybody at

2606
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 9: the program as well. I still follow it. I still,

2607
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 9: you know, love it. Coaches obviously still in the basketball

2608
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 9: program is the same, which is great, but even that'll

2609
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 9: change at some point, and so it is a little

2610
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 9: harder to like.

2611
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 8: Stay close to it.

2612
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:43,120
Speaker 9: I'll probably try to go back to a spring practice

2613
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 9: this year and say hello to people. But you know,

2614
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 9: life goes on and you follow it, but it is

2615
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 9: harder to stay real close to it when yeah.

2616
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 2: What about the blackshirt defense.

2617
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 9: Let's talk about twenty eleven no in Memorial Stadium. Yeah,

2618
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 9: my worst off performance. We can, I can I get

2619
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 9: on a soapbox about this. Go ahead, Yah, Okay. So

2620
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 9: I have deep respect for Coach Pollini, and there's a

2621
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,639
Speaker 9: few defensive coordinators and head coaches who are defensive minded

2622
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 9: head coaches that I've gone against through the years where

2623
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:13,640
Speaker 9: I walk off the field at the end of the

2624
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 9: game and I'm like smart fish, like that guy knows

2625
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,759
Speaker 9: what he's doing, and it was saving. We played Alabama

2626
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:23,559
Speaker 9: and it was PLAINI we played Nebraska, those two where

2627
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,679
Speaker 9: you're like, he's getting like he watched tape this week

2628
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 9: and he had a plan and he was his plan

2629
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 9: like it was good, good plan.

2630
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 2: It worked.

2631
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:35,799
Speaker 9: So he good players like Levante David and Will Compton

2632
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 9: and Alfonso Dinard and you know Crick and all those guys.

2633
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 9: But uh, but no, I just remember they had a

2634
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 9: they had like a really good plan. You guys had

2635
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:45,719
Speaker 9: a really good plan and it showed in the statline

2636
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:46,600
Speaker 9: with you for a DRS No.

2637
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I would always bring that up with on Lincoln. Yeah,

2638
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 2: I was in Lincoln. How were the fans incredibly nice

2639
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 2: to you after the game? Yeah? I think they that

2640
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 2: was that was something we were going into the game.

2641
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 2: They told us it would be like and then getting

2642
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 2: Filippines in the stance in Nebraska.

2643
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 9: So we were walk off the field and we got

2644
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 9: our tails kicked and they were just good job. Guys

2645
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 9: could try. You know, it's wild he gets in your head. Yeah,

2646
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:11,600
Speaker 9: but they had also I can't remember if that was

2647
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 9: when they had they hadn't built the third deck like

2648
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 9: that stadium's huge.

2649
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,560
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I think it's like ninety something. Yeah it was.

2650
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 8: It was, you know, like seventy five eighty back then.

2651
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:24,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a loud though. Leini had it rolling. Yeah

2652
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 2: we were rolling. Do you look back, like, bro, Michigan

2653
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 2: State were you they? Yeah? You were scholarship from the

2654
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 2: get go?

2655
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:33,679
Speaker 8: Right, yep, okay, yep you look back?

2656
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 2: So I didn't mean any disrespect there. Fourth round pick

2657
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:39,640
Speaker 2: in the career you've had, do you like look back

2658
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 2: and you're like, yo, yeah, how w in the fuck

2659
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 2: did this come about? You know what I mean?

2660
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, like obviously totally it's gonna work. I've been around you,

2661
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 6: like you work your tail off. But it's like, yeah,

2662
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 6: it's like while looking back on, like, man, we really

2663
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 6: did it when we as and you and your wife, not.

2664
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 4: Me and you.

2665
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we do it. Yeah, Well it wasn't

2666
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 2: a big piece of that. You were like, don't take

2667
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 2: anything away for your brother all the time.

2668
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 9: Yes, if you yes, if you had seen me in

2669
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 9: high school, you know, I remember going to get an

2670
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 9: office to Michigan, get offered the Michigan State and accepting

2671
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 9: and kind of I remember the narrative around town in

2672
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 9: my hometown got back to me like good for him,

2673
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 9: but like he's not gonna play. There, you know, like

2674
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,560
Speaker 9: it's cool that he got a scholarship and like, but

2675
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:22,720
Speaker 9: he's not gonna play.

2676
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 2: I mean you were not like yeah, I remember seeing

2677
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 2: the old photos.

2678
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, so to even like I remember, the goal was

2679
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 9: like get a scholarship. I just get a scholarship. That'd

2680
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 9: be so cool. And then it was like maybe, but

2681
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 9: we'll ever play, Like if I could just play, you know,

2682
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 9: start a game, that'd be incredible. Then you do that

2683
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 9: and it's like, well I can actually like be good,

2684
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 9: like maybe we could like win the Big Ten. And

2685
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:46,760
Speaker 9: then we did that, and it's like like maybe I

2686
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 9: could like one time, like we're an NFL helmet. Like

2687
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 9: I remember when I went to Washington got drafted and

2688
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 9: I put on the helmet and went out to mini

2689
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 9: camp practice. I remember thinking like, well I get cut today,

2690
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 9: Like at least I wore an NFL helmet, Like that's

2691
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 9: pretty cool to make it that far. And then you

2692
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 9: make the team and you're like get into a game

2693
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 9: and you're like I'm playing in the NFL. So it's

2694
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 9: just this kind of gradual progression and now you're saying

2695
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 9: like it's funny because I'll say to my wife like,

2696
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 9: I don't think I could be I could walk away

2697
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 9: from this career if we don't win a super Bowl.

2698
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 8: I don't think I could ever really like feel peace about.

2699
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:22,640
Speaker 2: It thinking back to these things. And you're like, I

2700
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 2: think you've had a good run.

2701
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what happens with like our job or

2702
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 1: anybody who's trying to have massive success. It's like you

2703
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 1: set a goal, you reach it, and it's like, for

2704
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 1: whatever reason, you sit there and you're like, you put

2705
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 1: the NFL helmet on.

2706
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:36,719
Speaker 2: You're like, why don't I feel one hundred percent?

2707
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 1: Yes?

2708
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:40,639
Speaker 8: Antonio always say to me the moment.

2709
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 1: You get in front of the mirror before you go

2710
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 1: out to practice, you got the helmet on, You're looking

2711
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 1: like this is I did it. But then like two

2712
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:48,680
Speaker 1: seconds later you're like, but what am I going to

2713
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 1: do next? What if I don't do anything with this,

2714
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 1: then I'm a failure? And then it's always something else,

2715
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 1: and it's like all I mean, you.

2716
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 9: Think winning a Super Bowl, I think when you talk

2717
01:53:56,439 --> 01:53:58,760
Speaker 9: to people who have won it, pull it's over bub Well, well,

2718
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:00,599
Speaker 9: when you talk to people have won it, they make

2719
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 9: it very clear that that didn't That didn't fix everything.

2720
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 8: Damn, that just frocks everything.

2721
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:07,719
Speaker 9: Like like you get about two months, you get about

2722
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 9: two months of like, man, we did it, and then

2723
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 9: you realize, like we got high expectations, like there's no

2724
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 9: reason we shouldn't do this again, and like anything less

2725
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 9: than this is not acceptable, and so it never ends,

2726
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 9: I guess, but but yeah, Coach Antonio used to tell

2727
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 9: me there's a book called The Dream Giver and that

2728
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:25,559
Speaker 9: he loves, and he would tell me, you know when

2729
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 9: you in that book is chasing a dream. You climb

2730
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 9: one mountain, you get to the top of the mountain,

2731
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 9: you look around, you realize there's just more mountains to climb,

2732
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 9: and he's like, you can you can stop at that

2733
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 9: top of that mountain for a second, look around and

2734
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 9: take it in. But like in life, there will always

2735
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 9: be that next mountain to climb, and certainly in the

2736
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 9: football journey, we've all lived that.

2737
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 2: You were draft in the fourth round. RGI three was

2738
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 2: drafted in the first round.

2739
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 6: He was gonna be the franchise guy, and you kind

2740
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 6: of sat behind him until you didn't.

2741
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 2: Do you do you look back on that? Can you

2742
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 2: speak back on like over.

2743
01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 6: Making the climb to become the guy in that whole

2744
01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 6: process unfolding with RG three being like the face of

2745
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 6: the franchise, and you're kind of like, you know, they're

2746
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 6: like integrating you into with all the drama and all

2747
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 6: the noise surrounding the whole thing, and you're just you're

2748
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 6: just like, well, I'm gonna go out here, and you know,

2749
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 6: once you get on the field, you're like, you know,

2750
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 6: let me play well enough to not to not be replaceable?

2751
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 2: Can you can you talk about that?

2752
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:18,400
Speaker 4: Sure?

2753
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:23,200
Speaker 9: First of all, the model was, you know, back up

2754
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 9: Robert and support him, and if I play well in

2755
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 9: preseason games, I'm gonna get an opportunity somewhere in the trade.

2756
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,080
Speaker 9: Kyle Shannam made that very clear from the day I

2757
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 9: was drafted, and Rex Grossman said to me, you know,

2758
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 9: this offense, playing well is in your best interest because

2759
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 9: when a quarterback can be a part of a really

2760
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 9: good offense, I think it makes other teams want you more.

2761
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 9: So when when you know we had a great year,

2762
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 9: our rookie year. I really just watched this griff one

2763
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 9: Rookie of the Year, and Rex made the point like

2764
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 9: this is really good, you know for your career to

2765
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 9: just be watching someone playing at this level is really

2766
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 9: really good. And I agreed, and then and I just assumed, again,

2767
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:04,839
Speaker 9: not knowing how the pro football works, I just assumed

2768
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 9: we'd run it back and be able to do the

2769
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 9: same thing. And the next year we went three and thirteen,

2770
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 9: and so you quickly realize just how hard this league is.

2771
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 9: And then coach Cruden came in, and that next year

2772
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:18,320
Speaker 9: we went four and twelve, and again you realize, like, man,

2773
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 9: this is really hard. And then going into fifteen, you know,

2774
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 9: you're just kind of competing, understanding that maybe if you

2775
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 9: practice well enough, you might get a shot. And then

2776
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 9: that was when Jay made the decision going into you know,

2777
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 9: twenty fifteen season, near the end of camp, you know,

2778
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 9: the end of preseason, that okay, we're going to go

2779
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 9: with Kirk. But even then it was like, I got

2780
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 9: to play well enough to stay out there, you know.

2781
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 9: And I remember the game against Bucks. We got down

2782
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 9: twenty four to nothing, and the buye was the next week,

2783
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 9: So if we don't win that game, you know, I've

2784
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 9: heard some people say on that staff they thought they

2785
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 9: were all going to get fired if we didn't win

2786
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 9: that game, and I probably don't come back after the

2787
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 9: buy week because it's starting quarterback. So we were one

2788
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:01,200
Speaker 9: half away from probably it never going the way it did.

2789
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 9: We come back and win that game thirty one thirty

2790
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 9: and then I yell you like that, and you know it, bro,

2791
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 9: And we never really looked back, but but you know,

2792
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 9: you do realize how close it was to going the

2793
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 9: other way.

2794
01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 6: Man.

2795
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 8: It's crazy.

2796
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:20,960
Speaker 2: Why couldn't we get it done in Washington? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

2797
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 2: So we were at the Pro Bowl this past few Yeah,

2798
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:24,640
Speaker 2: And that's what made me think of it too.

2799
01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 6: It's like he's crushing in the media world and he's

2800
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 6: sitting there interviewing you, and I'm sitting there looking at

2801
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 6: that photo, like, man, they really went through some stuff.

2802
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 6: Whether they're even not that you guys were never friends,

2803
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 6: but you're almost you're you're a lot wiser now, you're

2804
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 6: more mature. You're kind of just you're both doing everybody's

2805
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 6: doing their thing and everybody's saying for each other, and

2806
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 6: you went through some like tumultuous times where it's like

2807
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 6: it seemed like you guys were rivals and you guys

2808
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 6: just kind of had the Whether that storm, whether he's

2809
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:50,000
Speaker 6: kind of looking at you, You're looking at him. But

2810
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 6: it was kind of like I saw that photo and

2811
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 6: that's what made me think about that.

2812
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, first of all, Griff's really smart, really articulate, and

2813
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 9: he really knows the league.

2814
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 8: So what he does now he's good at doing. He's

2815
01:57:58,760 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 8: really good at it.

2816
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 9: But yeah, he uh, you know, he just did the

2817
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 9: post interview with me and Eli, and I had talked

2818
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 9: to him earlier in the week with the skills challenge

2819
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 9: and stuff, and got caught up.

2820
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 8: I just hadn't seen him.

2821
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:10,880
Speaker 9: I hadn't seen him in like maybe six seven years

2822
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 9: because we hadn't played each other right after twenty fifteen,

2823
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:16,200
Speaker 9: and so I just never had run into him. And

2824
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 9: it was great to see him. Great to get caught up,

2825
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 9: and you know, he's you know, he put his arm

2826
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 9: around me after we finished the interview and just said, hey, man,

2827
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 9: like I'm in your corner, and it was just really

2828
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 9: good to connect with him. And I just looked back

2829
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 9: and I just said, you know, likewise, but you know,

2830
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 9: I'll never forget now being a starting quarterback and understanding

2831
01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:39,720
Speaker 9: how hard it is to do the job. I'll never

2832
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:42,760
Speaker 9: forget what you did your rookie year, Like no fear

2833
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 9: coming in as a rookie and just taking over and

2834
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 9: making plays and putting your body on the line, and

2835
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 9: the mental, physical toughness, learning a new system, moving to

2836
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 9: a new city, taking on all that pressure of the media, everything,

2837
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 9: Like the way he handled it was just incredible. And

2838
01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 9: I just told him that and and I'll tell anyone

2839
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 9: the rest of my life like what he did that

2840
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 9: year was incredible.

2841
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 2: You got anything else, buddy, I'm solid. Hey, thank you

2842
01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 2: for coming on, man, thanks for having me.

2843
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 6: Great now, you don't do this a whole lot, so

2844
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 6: I really do appreciate it and parent and talking about

2845
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:13,520
Speaker 6: all this time.

2846
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:14,640
Speaker 2: Either I don't know you too well.

2847
01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 1: You have an unbelievable career, you know, brother, hold on,

2848
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:19,640
Speaker 1: there's so much more.

2849
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 2: But this guy, this guy is why I'm here.

2850
01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 9: And uh uh, you know, I I'm always when I

2851
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 9: go through life, I'm looking for leaders because I think

2852
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 9: that leadership. Everything rises and falls on leadership, and quite frankly,

2853
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 9: I think leaders are hard to find. And this guy's

2854
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 9: a leader. He's a leader of leaders because he can

2855
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:40,440
Speaker 9: build relationship with people. He can connect with anybody in

2856
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 9: our locker room, anybody in our locker room from West Coast,

2857
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:45,680
Speaker 9: East Coast, inner city suburbs.

2858
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:46,920
Speaker 8: You know farm boy.

2859
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:49,080
Speaker 9: He can connect with anybody at any time, at any level.

2860
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 9: He's he's he's engaging. He's funny, but he's smart, he studies,

2861
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 9: he's tough. Like I keep a list of my phone

2862
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:58,440
Speaker 9: of people I would hire if I ever start a company,

2863
01:59:58,920 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 9: and like, right there is the I would hire to

2864
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 9: like run the company for me. Brother is a man.

2865
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 9: Ye put my piece out there. He is why I'm

2866
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 9: sitting on this chair. And here is why I think

2867
02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:11,680
Speaker 9: this podcast will go as far as it wants to go.

2868
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:14,560
Speaker 9: And I plan on when I retiring football, giving him

2869
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:15,680
Speaker 9: a call and saying what are we doing?

2870
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:17,120
Speaker 2: So that's all time.

2871
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 1: Man.

2872
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. No, no, no, no, no, you know

2873
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:24,440
Speaker 2: I listen. You guys have a great relationship.

2874
02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on because of Will. I'm just

2875
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:26,800
Speaker 1: looking to be a part of it.