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Speaker 1: Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. Let me

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Speaker 1: introduce our guest. He was with us about a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Dr Robert Davis, PhD internationally recognized scientists of sensory neuroscience

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Speaker 1: and served as a professor at the State University of

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Speaker 1: New York for more than thirty years. He also serves

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Speaker 1: as a member of the Board of Directors and research

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Speaker 1: team of the Dr Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Research into

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Speaker 1: Extraterrestrial and Extraordinary Experiences. Robert's research and investigation into the

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Speaker 1: UFO phenomenon convinced him that the phenomenon remains unsolved. It's

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Speaker 1: a source of considerable debate among millions worldwide, of course,

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Speaker 1: and is a very important concern, unfortunately ignored by the

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Speaker 1: general scientific community, as you well know by now, Robert,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the program. It's a pleasure to be

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Speaker 1: with you, George. This is uh a remarkable work that

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Speaker 1: you did, and you have cited some incredible heavy hitters

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Speaker 1: in the field of after death experiences. Tell me about

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Speaker 1: the evolution for you because you wrote a book called

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Speaker 1: the UFO Phenomenon and in this one is equally as fascinating.

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Speaker 1: How did you get into that? Well, thanks, Uh comes

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Speaker 1: from my background the neurosciences, my my interest um in

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Speaker 1: consciousness and more recently my research with the doctor Amicial

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Speaker 1: Foundation for a Surgeon Exetressill and Extraordinary Experiences, which will

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Speaker 1: refer to as free which was founded by Dr Egan Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: the physicists and astronaut who are the sixth person to

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Speaker 1: walk on the Moon, and astro physicists Dr Rudy Shield

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Speaker 1: from Harvard University, Mary Rodwell noted the researcher in the field,

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Speaker 1: and Ray Hernandez, an attorney and and this foundation eventually

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Speaker 1: conducted research over a two year time period into the

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Speaker 1: area of consciousness and how advanced physics, in particular the

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Speaker 1: quantum hologram theory of physics and consciousness as developed by

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Speaker 1: Dr Mitchill can possibly and I emphasize possibly can explain

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Speaker 1: or provide some degree of understanding how old diverse phenomena

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Speaker 1: such as uphos and energes, out of body experiences uh

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Speaker 1: in even e SP and the possibility of life after death,

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Speaker 1: implying of course that consciousness is an independent entity or

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Speaker 1: component from the brain, although of course it is into related.

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Speaker 1: But the point is quantum. So now looking at the

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Speaker 1: possibility that consciousness may indeed be a separate entity that

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Speaker 1: possibly could persist at the bodily death. So all these

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Speaker 1: events that we consider as paranormal may eventually be explained,

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Speaker 1: and consciousness may be the unifying factor that that inter

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Speaker 1: relates many of these unexplained phenomenon that we are addressing.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we see that consciousness is the key components

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Speaker 1: and that businessists and mainstream science should focus more heavily

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Speaker 1: in this area. And Free again has been involved in

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Speaker 1: two year long study of looking at the effects of

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Speaker 1: over thirty two individuals who report to have contact experiences

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Speaker 1: with non human intelligences, and we conducted quantitative survey using

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Speaker 1: over firefronted questions with these subjects, and we addressed several

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Speaker 1: topic areas um which include the physical, psychological, perceptual, anomalous

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Speaker 1: aspects of reported contact experience is and our results reveal

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Speaker 1: uh complex interactions with perceived believe it or not young

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Speaker 1: human intelligences and involved psycho spiritual transformations, non ordinary states

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Speaker 1: of consciousness as well as paranormal experiences. And what's the

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Speaker 1: most significant aspect of our results because still ongoing, is

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Speaker 1: that about this represents over individuals of that population claimed

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Speaker 1: that their contact experience changed their life in a positive way.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, of that population, I represented about two

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Speaker 1: extreme reduction and negative thought. And they appear more humane,

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Speaker 1: not of their outcome of their contact experience. This is

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Speaker 1: The interesting component here as a relates to consciousness is

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Speaker 1: that it parallels the the transplemitted outcomes that individuals will have.

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Speaker 1: these for example, Well, they claim to. The question remains

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Speaker 1: whether or not it is a long standing outcome. Believe

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Speaker 1: we believe it is because we see this in endy years.

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Speaker 1: They firmly I don't believe that that once the physical

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Speaker 1: Is it's certainly subject speculation. Um. But the findings in

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Speaker 1: our study we you know, show that over actually report

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Speaker 1: physically abducted. And this goes against the traditionally help believed

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Speaker 1: by by ufologists, those who claimed that people are quickly

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Speaker 1: taken on board the UFO and and experimental biologic procedures

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Speaker 1: we do see that, but but it only occurs at

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Speaker 1: least a coin to their reports. In less than one

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Speaker 1: have uh not have that is, conscious memories. They don't

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Speaker 1: is indeed a physical component associated apparently with this phenomena,

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Speaker 1: so it seems to be both a physical aspect as

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Speaker 1: key is that three quarters of those who claim to

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Speaker 1: have these non human intelligence contact experiences considerate consider themselves

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Speaker 1: more of an egalitarian they're being treated as more of

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Speaker 1: an equal as part of their so called abduction experience,

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Speaker 1: one quarter or sold do consider it to be an

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Speaker 1: abduction like UH experience, but it's done with permission and compassion,

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Speaker 1: negative effect. But what is uniquely interesting is that our

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Speaker 1: outcomes suggests that suggests both a physical and non physical

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Speaker 1: thought of body experience. It's similar to conclusion is made

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Speaker 1: by the astrophysicist Alan Heynek, who who as the audience,

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Speaker 1: has led many UFO experiments undertaken by the US there

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Speaker 1: for Blue Book, and he concluded that that this phenomena

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Speaker 1: And Jacques Valet also noted, you follow just as we're

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Speaker 1: you know, but what's key here is that our study

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Speaker 1: again over three thousand individuals are supporting what they have said.

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Speaker 1: Yet you followed this generally focus on the nuts and

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Speaker 1: boats and that's fine. I commend them. We learned, we

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Speaker 1: this phenomena, but we have not advanced. I will understand

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Speaker 1: any great degree over many decades by focusing continually unresurspected

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Speaker 1: events like Rosweil and Rendel shimp Uh. It's fine, let's

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Speaker 1: study it. I enjoy listening to it. It's entertainment, its business,

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Speaker 1: and you know, go for it. But but science, mainstream

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Speaker 1: science has become more involved in looking at these phenomena

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Speaker 1: because the aspect of consciousness it seems to be a

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Speaker 1: critical component of it. And we may be able to

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Speaker 1: better understand the aspect of consciousness and possibly even reality

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Speaker 1: itself by looking at various phenomena like in the easy

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Speaker 1: e SP remote viewing for instance, telepathy uh, near death

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Speaker 1: is an underlying common component to each that is consciousness.

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Speaker 1: That's why I wrote my book Life After Death Analysis

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Speaker 1: of the evidence and your listeners can go to my

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Speaker 1: website to UFO phenomenon dot com to get more information

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Speaker 1: about articles written by members of Free that Talk about

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Speaker 1: the possible explanations, and Free does not content at any

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Speaker 1: firm conclusions based on our results. We're just presenting the

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Speaker 1: others to to incorporate, debate UH and consider as as

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Speaker 1: a possible line of research to better understand an aspect

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Speaker 1: of consciousness, which if is independent of the brain, then

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Speaker 1: continuity of consciousness after bodily death or in other words,

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