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Speaker 2: A disappointing loss for the New York Football Giants. They

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Speaker 2: fall to the Washington Commanders twenty one to eighteen. The

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Speaker 2: difference and Austin Cybert field goal as time expired to

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Speaker 2: give the Commanders the victory, and really JC this defense,

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Speaker 2: this game rather came down to defense and special teams.

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Speaker 2: The special team part of it was that Graham good

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Speaker 2: Old pulled his hamstring on the opening kickoff and the

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Speaker 2: Giants had to forego two extra point attempts after Jamie

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Speaker 2: Gillan missed his first. They had to forego a field

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Speaker 2: goal attempt on the final drive, and the Giants could

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Speaker 2: have easily had twenty four points in this game if

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Speaker 2: Graham Gondo's healthy. He was not, and the Giants defense

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Speaker 2: in the end could not get a stop when they

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Speaker 2: needed to, and the Commanders marched all the way down

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Speaker 2: the field without much resistance, and they end up winning

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Speaker 2: this game twenty one to eighteen on that field goal

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Speaker 2: at the end of regulation from just thirty yards away.

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Speaker 2: And this comes down jc to the defense not being

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Speaker 2: able to get a stop in this game. Zero punts,

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Speaker 2: zero takeaways for the Giants defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that the bend but don't break kind of mentality,

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Speaker 1: I want to say mentality, but that's kind of the

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Speaker 1: theme for the defense today. You know, giving up four

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Speaker 1: they kicked and made seven field goals. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't think a team can win by field goals,

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Speaker 1: but the Steelers did that last week. Commanders did it

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Speaker 1: this week. Not the complimentary football. You've seen an improvement

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Speaker 1: with the offense. Daniel Jones looked like he was settled

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Speaker 1: in and was throwing I think, you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: the neighbors. Neighbors just having a great game early and

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Speaker 1: just situational football at the end of the game. You know,

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Speaker 1: Neighbors dropping that pass and the Giants not being able

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Speaker 1: they could not do it. And now there's going to

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Speaker 1: be a long is it they drive? Did they drift

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Speaker 1: New Jersey for sure.

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Speaker 2: Time of possession thirty seven and a half minutes to

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Speaker 2: the command. There's just twenty two minutes thirty seconds for

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Speaker 2: the Giants. The Giants had only seven drives on offense

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Speaker 2: in this game, JC, It's not a lot. They scored

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Speaker 2: three touchdowns, they had to punt twice. The Neighbors drop

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Speaker 2: game on a good pass from Jones, And then you

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Speaker 2: rather in that third quarter when the Giants were driving

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Speaker 2: I think anyone signs up for that, right, I think

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Speaker 2: which was a play that hurt, that took points off

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Speaker 2: I don't think they were quite in field goal range yet,

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Speaker 2: but they were certainly getting close. When he fumbled that

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Speaker 2: football and then that elite Neighbors drop, we talked about it.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones made a great decision. He held the ball

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Speaker 2: put the ball right into Neighbors' chest. Obviously, Neighbors was

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Speaker 2: beating himself up on the sideline. They showed all his

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Speaker 2: But those are the two plays really on offense that

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Speaker 1: Offensively, they stunted a lot of their drives. Defensively there

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Speaker 1: can't figure out how to win it at the end.

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Speaker 1: Losing Gono though, that was huge, and that took away,

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Speaker 1: the game. I'm not making excuses for the Giants. The

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Speaker 1: Giants need to find a way how to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to win this game, which was a very winnable

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Speaker 1: game for the entire game.

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Speaker 2: We're here from Brian Dable at the podium. We'll get

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Speaker 2: more sound from the Giants players in the locker room

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Speaker 2: after this disappointing twenty one to eighteen loss to the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: Back here on Giants extra Point, John Schmulk Jonathan cacis

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Speaker 2: with you. The Giants fall to the Commander's twenty one

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Speaker 2: to eighteen, and you take a look at this JC

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Speaker 2: Eligue neighbors aside from that drop was the guy the

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Speaker 2: Giants thought when they drafted him. Ten catches on eighteen targets,

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Speaker 2: a lot of targets from the league neighbors in this game,

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones figure out early, all right, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to go wrong. Thrown to this guy one hundred and

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Speaker 1: Eight the kid playing for I'm know, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: you know, Daniel Jones did you know, focus on neighbors.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to see what the Giants had in terms

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Speaker 2: of explosive plays in this game. That's four passes of

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Speaker 2: fifteen plus yards. You'd like a little bit more than that.

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Speaker 2: But jac I did like the fact that you know,

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Speaker 2: they didn't hit on them. They did try to get

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Speaker 2: the ball downfield in this game, and sometimes the players

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Speaker 2: were covered well. DJ miss Neighbors by maybe four or

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Speaker 2: It was a good ball, just slightly overthrown. They were

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Speaker 2: They just weren't quite able to connect on a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, But when you look at the total plays, right,

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Speaker 1: fifty one total plays and four shots downfield, I don't

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Speaker 1: the Giants took one or no shots down the field.

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Speaker 2: And we should give some love to Devin Singletary here, JC.

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Speaker 2: He played a phenomenal game, had some really good runs

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Speaker 2: a game, but schmoke.

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Speaker 1: That is the ironing of the NFL. The two best

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Speaker 1: he dropped the football. It's the irony of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: The Giants need to figure out how to play complimentary

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Speaker 1: football for four quarters because special teams giving up that

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Speaker 1: the Giants, and they lose him. Now, the Giants got

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Speaker 2: you don't have another kicker there when Gano had the

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Speaker 2: We can't let Austin Eckler run one hundred yards, by

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Speaker 2: the way, talk about special teams. Yes, it was called

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Speaker 2: back because the holding penalty. Hate to tell you that

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Speaker 2: a hundred yards. So if you cover that kick better,

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Speaker 2: pull that hamshrink to begin with.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of the block field.

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Speaker 5: You don't do well on special teams.

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Speaker 2: You put somebody in a bad position, you get an injury,

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Speaker 2: It can cost you big time.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants

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Speaker 2: Back here on Giants Extra Point, John Schmelt Jonathan Casias

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Speaker 2: with you. The Commanders defeat the Giants twenty one to

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Speaker 2: eighteen on seven field goals from Austin Cybert. Giants score

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Speaker 2: three touchdowns, So you might ask eighteen points how john

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Speaker 2: Well Graham Gano pulled his hamstring on the opening kickoff

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Speaker 2: that Austin Eckler did return for a touchdown. I got

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Speaker 2: the first extra point.

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Speaker 2: the second one to drop by Darius Slayon, not a

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Speaker 2: to the Commanders twenty one to eighteen. And Jason we've

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Speaker 2: The defense just wasn't good enough the Commanders in this game,

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Speaker 2: jac two one hundred and fifteen rushing yards and quite frankly,

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Speaker 2: Jya Daniels had a couple of runs forty four rushing yards.

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Speaker 2: This was the traditional run game that got the Giants

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I spoke about this plenty of times on

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Speaker 1: give up some field goals, you give them some field position,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two parts of Bowen's defense that were supposed to

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Speaker 1: and look, the Giants cannot Look, you played the Browns,

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Speaker 1: Giants have to figure out a way to stop the run.

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Speaker 1: They cannot be poorous because that bend but don't break that.

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Speaker 1: Of course, that didn't work today. You know, the Giants

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Speaker 6: Our quarterback played well just to play here or there

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Speaker 6: So that's what I decided to do. Yeah, because we

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Speaker 7: I can't hurt her hamstring running.

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Speaker 8: I'm not a doctor.

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Speaker 9: The deal that you have to you know that you

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Speaker 10: If you're taking a risk that it could get.

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Speaker 11: Reinjured, why not.

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Speaker 8: I mean anybody can get injured.

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Speaker 6: Jordan's so again again he was chasing, he was ch

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Speaker 6: I got you, he was chasing a kickoff return.

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Speaker 8: He pulled his hamstring and not making excuses.

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Speaker 3: Decision.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we thought he was We thought he was good.

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Speaker 8: He thought he was good. Yeah, all the decisions that

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Speaker 3: Mind, trust me.

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Speaker 10: Kick.

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Speaker 6: Uh he missed the first one. We thought our chances

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 6: We had one to Slay, had an opportunity there at

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Speaker 11: So was it design there to kick the ball?

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Speaker 12: Did you?

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Speaker 8: We had our opportunities.

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Speaker 13: He was clearly.

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Speaker 14: Uncomfortable and get to the score team why even maybe

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Speaker 1: Jamie had to kickoffs, you know, opportunity.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Again, we we talked about a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 8: We thought he'd be good to go.

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Speaker 6: I can't tell you he's gonna get hurt chasing down

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Speaker 3: But again, isn't a player injury and like fall for shoot.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, so mean which collective you mentioned that people

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Speaker 6: Then you thought you had a better chance to go

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Speaker 8: Being yeah or yeah, I did like the play we had.

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Speaker 8: That's one to Slayton, Yes, that we.

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Speaker 6: Had an opportunity on to to make. Yeah, so I'm

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Speaker 6: I feel comfortable with what we did.

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Speaker 14: What was just the first one and you.

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Speaker 8: Uh no, we we had discussions on there.

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Speaker 8: You were talking at the end.

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Speaker 16: The treat.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we I'm gonna get into discussions that we had.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, again, we thought we thought Graham was good. We

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Speaker 6: thought Graham was good. I think you would have been

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Speaker 6: good if he didn't pull his hamstring.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Again, I'm not going to get into where was that?

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Speaker 17: What the thing he like?

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Speaker 18: High teams?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they rushed the ball well, they were fishing. In

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Speaker 6: Lot of third and longs that that we didn't stop

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Speaker 6: And then we had him in some long yards. I

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Speaker 6: some long yards that.

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Speaker 8: They capitalized on. What have you guys, Yeah, a couple

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 19: What do you say the neighbors something?

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Speaker 8: Uh, keep your head up, Yeah, keep your head up.

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Speaker 8: Who's that play well?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I thought he played well. Thought Daniel play well. Thought

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Speaker 6: we were fishing, you know. Wandelle made a nice play

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Speaker 6: there in the in the end zone when we needed

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Speaker 8: We threw it to him. But do you have eighteen targets?

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Speaker 8: Eighteen targets? So what do you have?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and it's you know, last one, he'll

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Speaker 6: he'll He's competitive as can be.

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Speaker 8: So I appreciate how competitive and how much he cares.

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Speaker 8: What do you think, Yeah, yep, right, concerned about your job?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I I've done this for a long time. Pat,

446
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Speaker 6: you know, my focus is on our football team.

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Speaker 3: Gays, do you.

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Speaker 1: Think looking back that you should have tel a like.

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Speaker 20: If you p turned that time?

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Speaker 13: Would you change that.

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Speaker 6: Decision knowing that he was gonna get hurt on the

452
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Speaker 6: on the first kickoff? Yeah, certainly on a pulled hamstring?

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Speaker 18: Yeah do you?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, if if look any re any

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Speaker 6: player gets hurt at a certain position, the quarterback gets hurt, you,

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Speaker 6: I mean, whatever it may be, so uh certainly, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean he got hurt. So, yeah, it's too bad.

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Speaker 18: But I never didn't need to do it more.

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Speaker 3: And you'll come to one.

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Speaker 14: You have a completion f street the league in j

461
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Speaker 14: the first time that thing's happened, and you guys left

462
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Speaker 14: yourself short now when you're gone the last week, you

463
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Speaker 14: know last year, So just curious, why don't take differ precautions,

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Speaker 14: I just after you're active, in case that the work

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Speaker 14: isn't happening up different beings.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, again, we felt we felt okay with the decision

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Speaker 6: that we make.

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Speaker 8: Obviously didn't pan out because he pulled his hamstring.

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Speaker 10: More no more your offense on what movies that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think it's complimentary football. So it's it's

471
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Speaker 6: the entire units, it's working together. Obviously, we got to

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Speaker 6: do a better job on third down. I think we

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Speaker 6: were what four of eight fifty percent on third down,

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Speaker 6: which was another good improvement. But they were seven or

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Speaker 6: fourteen fifty percent on third down the rower for six

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Speaker 6: in the red zone, we were three for three. Turnover Again,

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Speaker 6: I talked about it last night that that turnover was

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Speaker 6: critical coming out of half. We had to drive going

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Speaker 6: and we didn't create any so that was a loss

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Speaker 6: in the turnover ratio, which I said during a press

481
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Speaker 6: conference on Thursdays was ten and one last week, so good.

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Speaker 6: We got to work on some things, some things we

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Speaker 6: improved on and we'll continue to do that.

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Speaker 3: You thought your quarterback played well?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, last week there was a lot of thought and confidence.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you think?

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Speaker 8: I thought he went where he was supposed to go

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Speaker 8: with the football. He you know, saw.

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Speaker 6: The field well, threw it to the guy that he

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Speaker 6: was supposed to throw it to, gave him chances. We

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Speaker 6: had chances on other plays too that you know, maybe

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Speaker 6: we didn't connect on that. I was proud of him.

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Speaker 6: I was proud of the way he competed. I was

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Speaker 6: proud of the way he prepared during the week. I

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Speaker 6: was proud of the mental toughness. I thought he did

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Speaker 6: a nice job.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's Brian Dable at the podium.

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Speaker 2: Jones at the podium as well. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 21: Third and one, Jones takes a shotgun snap rolls to

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Speaker 21: the end zone for Neighbors, who makes the catch touchdown

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Speaker 21: Giants Lake Neighbors.

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Speaker 22: Scores his first career touchdown on a third and one

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Speaker 22: at the four, and the Giants are back in front

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Speaker 22: with eight seconds to go in the half.

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Speaker 2: hopefully of many NFL touchdowns for the Giants, but they

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Speaker 2: fall to the Commanders twenty one to eighteen on Austin

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Speaker 2: Seibert's seventh field goal of the game as time expired

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Speaker 2: to give the Commanders the win. We just heard from

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Speaker 2: Brian Dable at the podium. We'll try to get Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jones at the podium as well in just a couple

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Speaker 2: of minutes. Jac Obviously, a lot of the questions there

525
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Speaker 2: are about the Graham Gonna injury. Remember he was added

526
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Speaker 2: late to the injury report with a groin injury, went

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Speaker 2: through warmups, We're not there to watch it. The beer

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Speaker 2: reporter said they saw some things that could be struggles.

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Speaker 2: He also made fifty yard field goal at the end

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Speaker 2: of the warm ups. Brian Dables says he was ready

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Speaker 2: to play. They considered him healthy the injury on that

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Speaker 2: opening kickoff, And I think this is where the disconnect

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Speaker 2: probably is with the questions. The Giants consider that a

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Speaker 2: separate injury unrelated to the groin where that could have

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Speaker 2: happened if he didn't have the groin injury at all,

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Speaker 2: And the media seems to think, and I understand a

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Speaker 2: lot of questioning, you have a guy with a pre

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Speaker 2: existing condition for lack of a better term, coming into

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Speaker 2: the game that you had some concerns about.

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Speaker 1: He was on the injury report.

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Speaker 2: They have Jude mikatom Nay, who's their international exception player,

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Speaker 2: on the practice squad.

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Speaker 5: You could elevate him if you like.

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Speaker 2: The Giants thought Graham Gono was healthy, so they treated

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Speaker 2: him like any other healthy player. They wouldn't elevate Jude

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Speaker 2: on another week when he was one hundred percent healthy,

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Speaker 2: And that's I think where the disconnect is there. Between

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Speaker 2: how the Giants approached it and the questions that came

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Speaker 2: from the media. And look, we don't know what Ronnie

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Speaker 2: Barnes said. We don't know what the medical report was

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Speaker 2: on Graham Gano. If you're the coach and the medical

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Speaker 2: guy said, you know he's he's good, you're not gonna

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Speaker 2: have a second kicker activating.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk about that in a second. We got Daniel

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Speaker 5: Jones or the podium down in d C.

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Speaker 23: Did some good things in the run game, did some

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Speaker 23: good things in the past game. You know, it's kind

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Speaker 23: of a ball control game where.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know they were uh you.

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Speaker 23: Know, they had good times possession. I thought we did too, So, uh,

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Speaker 23: you got to convert on your opportunities when you're in

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Speaker 23: a game like that, and uh, a couple of plays, Uh,

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Speaker 23: you know, we gotta gotta find a way to make

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Speaker 23: and and uh, it's on all of us.

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Speaker 24: What do you say, what did you say?

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Speaker 18: He played a great game.

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Speaker 3: Up with.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean I think it was pretty obvious that

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Speaker 23: we wouldn't be in the position that we were in without.

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Speaker 3: The game that he played.

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Speaker 23: And and uh, you know, as a as a rookie

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Speaker 23: coming in and he played really well, it was.

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Speaker 3: Big time for us throughout the game, made tons of

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Speaker 3: big plays.

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Speaker 23: And uh, you know, it was a matchup issue for

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Speaker 23: him for him all day. So you know, I think

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Speaker 23: he's he knows that. I mean, he he knows he

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Speaker 23: played played a good game, and and you know we

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Speaker 23: we gotta gotta pick him up. He's a competitor, he's

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Speaker 23: a he uh hold himself to a high standard, so

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Speaker 23: you know it bothers him, but you know, gotta gotta

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Speaker 23: keep pressing forward.

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Speaker 3: Through the last a law of.

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Speaker 16: Person where you game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think.

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Speaker 23: Despite what the uh you know, expectation was after last week,

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Speaker 23: I I mean I felt confident.

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Speaker 3: I felt confident in our group, confident myself, and I.

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Speaker 23: Thought we prepared well this week at practice and and

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Speaker 23: we'll uh continue to build confidence through our process and

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Speaker 23: through our through our hard work.

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Speaker 3: And obviously we're all very disappointed with.

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Speaker 23: The outcome today and gotta work to to finish it up.

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Speaker 23: But in terms of my confidence and the team's confidence,

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Speaker 23: I don't think that's uh going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: You think part of.

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Speaker 14: The part breaking involved with what to you through a

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Speaker 14: lot of them and you guys.

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Speaker 25: Are not shut A kicker did that create frustrations in

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Speaker 25: different manage at the game, going to the games.

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Speaker 4: Good not to go a piculate is what happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we're gonna make any excuses.

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Speaker 23: It's football stuff like that happens and people go down.

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Speaker 23: I thought, considering the situation, we managed it how we

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Speaker 23: had to and and uh, we gotta look at what

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Speaker 23: we could have done better, look at those those two

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Speaker 23: point plays, a couple of situations here and there and

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Speaker 23: where we can uh convert. I mean, obviously it's not

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Speaker 23: ideal to to lose your kicker on the first play

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Speaker 23: and changes how the game's played.

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Speaker 3: But uh, we're not.

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Speaker 23: Gonna make any excuses, and uh gotta find a way

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Speaker 23: to make a couple more plays.

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Speaker 3: Guess an offense at any point.

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Speaker 23: And I mean I don't know before the end of games,

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Speaker 23: but like pretty of noble got turn point or or

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Speaker 23: like throughout the game that you guys just think it's

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Speaker 23: more down Paris.

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Speaker 9: Or once were getting down there.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 23: I think that's a better question for Daves in terms

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Speaker 23: of how he was handling it. I mean, I think

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Speaker 23: in the situations that came up there, you know, he

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Speaker 23: told me it was four down territory and and I

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Speaker 23: operate according to that. You know where that line was

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Speaker 23: or how he would have played a certain situation, is

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Speaker 23: is hypothetical?

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Speaker 3: And and better question for him?

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Speaker 26: Yeah this morning, Yes, ESPN at very.

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Speaker 16: Like year.

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Speaker 9: Like A would have asked that it Actually.

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Speaker 27: You were aware of that part of the game.

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Speaker 3: What should reaction for that?

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Speaker 18: You know the game were close?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I I hadn't heard the report. Uh, this is

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Speaker 23: the first time hearing of it. You know, I think

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Speaker 23: my job is to play well and to put this

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Speaker 23: team in a position.

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Speaker 3: To win games. And you know.

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Speaker 23: How they handle that and and you know what comes out,

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Speaker 23: you know where it comes from.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know.

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Speaker 23: You know, that's on that's up to them on how

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Speaker 23: that's communicated. But my job is to play good football,

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Speaker 23: put the team in a position to win games, and

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Speaker 23: and focus on my job. So you know, I'm not

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Speaker 23: in control of any of that.

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Speaker 4: How do you get this involved? You want to player

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Speaker 4: so on.

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Speaker 1: Situation?

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Speaker 3: I think you know, you get into certain games and

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Speaker 3: you know, I think the leak played really well. He

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Speaker 3: was a matchup issue for him.

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Speaker 23: You understand kind of how it plays out, and and

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Speaker 23: you know routes and and singled up. I felt like

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Speaker 23: we had an advantage when we were going to him,

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Speaker 23: So we kept doing that and and trying to play

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Speaker 23: the game, you know, with with that matchup in mind,

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Speaker 23: and uh, he did a good job winning.

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Speaker 19: For us.

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Speaker 1: Date previous pitch up.

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Speaker 23: I think it's just maintaining our edge, maintaining our competitive spirit.

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Speaker 23: You know, I'm confident the guys we have.

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Speaker 3: And I know we'll do that. So you know, we've

666
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: lost two games.

667
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 23: Both are different, different situations, but we got the guys

668
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 23: to to buckle down, prepare. It's about our process and

669
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 23: coming in, playing with edge, playing with with with passion,

670
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 23: and and uh, find ways to win games. So that's

671
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 23: all we can control, control our preparation and how we

672
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 23: play on Sundays, and that's what we're gonna do.

673
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: Thanks thanks.

674
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: Player Press Commerce after the game are brought to you

675
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Speaker 2: by MetLife, the official insurance company of the New York Giants.

676
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: Stuff to hear a couple of questions in there. We're

677
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: trying to get some context on one or two of

678
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: those Andrews. When we do, we'll have it for you.

679
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: Let's start with DJ first and then we'll jump back

680
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: to the to the kicking thing from the Dable press conference.

681
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: JC.

682
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 5: Your thoughts on what Daniel Jones had to say at

683
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 5: the podium.

684
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know he's PC. You know, well,

685
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: let's talk about his performance, right. I think he took

686
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: a huge step forward from what he did last week.

687
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: You know, look, he's not perfect. I don't expect him

688
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: to be perfect, but I definitely wanted him to see

689
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: wanted to see from him being comfortable in the pocket.

690
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: The offensive line did a very good job today protecting him.

691
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: But they were very good. I agree, And Daniel Jones

692
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: did look comfortable, you know, in the pocket. And I

693
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: say comfortable being you know, it's a football game, so

694
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, you could handle that for whatever you take it.

695
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: But he played, I think a lot better than he

696
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: did last week, but not as good as he needs

697
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: to play, you know, especially when the defense has been

698
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: as porous as it was today, when they couldn't really

699
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: stop the Commanders. And look, the Commanders had a lot

700
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: of self inflicting, you know, things that they did to themselves.

701
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: You know, they had some plays late in the game

702
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: where they had a couple holding calls, false starts. Excuse me,

703
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: where they you know, kind of stifled themselves, but they

704
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: figured out a way to get down in the in

705
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: the red zone and kick field goals which ended up

706
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: being you know how they won the game. They kicked

707
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: seven field goals which ended up being twenty one points.

708
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: And the Giants couldn't muster up enough even though they

709
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: scored three touchdowns, but they couldn't figure out a way

710
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: to do it because the Commanders did play complimentary football today.

711
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: They did stop the Giants when need to stop him. Yeah,

712
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: and they have a little help from a fumble in

713
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: the drop late in the game. But they did what

714
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: they needed to do to win this game. And that's

715
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: what the Giants need to do.

716
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: And fairs the Commander's for staff fumble. That was a

717
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: great punch out by Benjamin Saint ju just on that play.

718
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: All right.

719
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: Now, back to the kicker thing with mckatom nay, the

720
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: decision not to have him elevated for this game.

721
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 5: Give me some insight.

722
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: You're a guy that was on the injury reportal hot,

723
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: how does that work when you were coming off the

724
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: field that for oneause, you talk to the trainers, Your

725
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: trainers talked to the coach and the decision has made

726
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: is how healthy you are? How do you see that going?

727
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: What context can you give for how that works? Pregame

728
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: when you're making those decisions.

729
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: Well, usually you know if somebody's on an injury report,

730
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: somebody's you know, have a possibility of Look, he can

731
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: probably hurt himself today, and you have a backup for him.

732
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: This and the thing is you have depth throughout the

733
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: entire roster except where the kickers and the punters. You

734
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: don't really carry two punters into games. You don't carry

735
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: two kickers. You don't carry long snappers. That's just what

736
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: it is. You have a backup kicker, but they're usually

737
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: not a kicker. Gillim is a backup kicker, but he's

738
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: a punter. And you know he shanked the first kick

739
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: and the Giants elected to go away from him. You know,

740
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I probably would do the

741
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: same thing if I was a head coach. But you

742
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: don't carry two kickers, bro, You don't do that, you

743
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's not something that you go

744
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: into games.

745
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 5: On the active forty six you're talking about right right.

746
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: You don't do that, you know. So this was a

747
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: a It's not like a regular play player going into

748
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: a game knowing that you might have something going on

749
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: with his body, you know, McFadden, Right, McFadden was back

750
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: and forth throughout the week. They always have somebody to

751
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,479
Speaker 1: back them up. But a kicker is not the same

752
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: as a regular fifty three man on the roster offense

753
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: defense I'm talking about, right, You always have viable guys

754
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: that do that. Punters. You don't carry an extra punter,

755
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: you just don't do it. You don't carry an extra kicker.

756
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: You have your backup, yes you do. But like I said,

757
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: roster spots need to be held by mostly the other

758
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: guys that are playing offense and defense because of this situation,

759
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: and it's just very rare that a kicker basically is

760
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: on the injury report before the game and he wasn't

761
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: on the injury port during the week like that. That

762
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: doesn't really exist in the world of football too much.

763
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: So this was kind of like a new world, you know,

764
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: a new situation that prevented itself and you know, so

765
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: be it that the Giants, I don't know if they

766
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: I want to say they didn't handle it well, it

767
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: just didn't work out for them today.

768
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy pulled the hamstring on the opening kickoff,

769
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: because you let Austin Eckler go a one hundred yards

770
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: and the odds are on. I think this was Brian Dables' point.

771
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: If that doesn't happen, no one thinks twice about it,

772
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: because grand is healthy enough to kick and we're not

773
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 2: having this conversation.

774
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: Changes the way the game was played today.

775
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: Smoke Giants Football is brought to you by Verizon, the

776
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,720
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778
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 5: Let's take a time out. We'll come back.

779
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 2: We'll get more audio from the locker room, more analysis

780
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: and everything else. The Giants lose a disappointing game twenty

781
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: one to eighteen to the Commanders.

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00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 4: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants

784
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 4: Radio Network.

785
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 26: This is Wanda Robinson, and you're listening to the radio

786
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 26: home of Big Blue the Fan, WFAN and Wfan FM,

787
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 26: New York.

788
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 27: Hyatt and Robinson and a bunch in the right slot.

789
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 27: Jons Oliver center hand off for Singletary shoots through a hole.

790
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 27: Singletary spins acrossfitfield inside the forty and tackled out about

791
00:35:53,160 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 27: the Washingington thirty eight yard line, eighteen fourth and three

792
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 27: from the thirty one of the Commandment. Giants down by

793
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 27: three Tracy to the right of Jones.

794
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: Jones takes the shotgun, staff.

795
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 22: Delivers it like that deletes it if he fighting for

796
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 22: the first down as neighbors and he reaches and he

797
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 22: gets it.

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00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 27: Jones in a shotgun takes the staff back to throw,

799
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 27: throws it right for.

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00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 22: Robinson makes the catch, then he's in for a touchdown.

801
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 22: Daniel Jones second touchdown pass to the ball games WANDL

802
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 22: Robinson his first touchdown of the season, and the Giants

803
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 22: are back on top with eleven thirty two to go

804
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 22: in the game.

805
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: That gave them eighteen points. All three of those players

806
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: combined to be our scoring drive of the game, brought

807
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: to you by Citizens. For every scoring drive this season,

808
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: Citizens will donate seven hundred and fifty dollars to the

809
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: Giants Foundation to the support to support part of me

810
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: their work tackling important community issues, improving overall health and

811
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: empowering our youth. That drive for the Giants. We'll go

812
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: through the particulars of it in just a second. Obviously,

813
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: you know the Giants in this game had three scoring

814
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: drives that went for touchdowns. That particular one was a

815
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: seventy yard drive on thirteen plays that again gave them

816
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: eighteen points and that lead, but two more Commanders field

817
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: goals gave them the twenty one to eighteen win. Let's

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00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: pause ten seconds and give our stations a chance to

819
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: identify themselves on the WFAN Giants radio.

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00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 4: Network WFAN, WSAN FM, WSAN FMHD one, New York, and go.

821
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: To school station.

822
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: Back here on the WFN Giants radio network, the Giants

823
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: again fall to the Washington Commanders twenty one to eighteen.

824
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 2: The big story Graham Gano's pulled hamstring on the opening

825
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: kickoff leads to the fact that he can not kick

826
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 2: extra points. Jamie Gillen misses the first one. The Giants

827
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: fell on two two point conversions. After that, they have

828
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: to go forward on a fourth down late instead of

829
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: kicking a field goal. A Elik Neighbors drop ends up,

830
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 2: forcing the Giants to come up with no point to

831
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: the drive gave the Commanders the ball back. They drive

832
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: right down kick the game winning field goal. Let's listen

833
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: to Graham Gono. He addressed the media after the game.

834
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 28: Spoken up more and said, you know, you were fighting

835
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 28: through something for the benefit of the team, you felt

836
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 28: like you needed to.

837
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 15: I mean situation. No, I mean I spoke up it

838
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 15: up last year. It was a it was a mutual,

839
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 15: you know, decision last year to keep fighting through it.

840
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 15: As as long as I was able to kick, I

841
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 15: was gonna try. And uh, I mean today, I wasn't

842
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 15: dealing with that kicking. So it's just tough luck.

843
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: You know. It wasn't something that.

844
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 15: Was bothering me at all until you know, I just

845
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 15: I guess I was running too fast from a body.

846
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 9: But you know that at times, I'm not sure pretty

847
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 9: when have one injury kind of things to the over

848
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 9: compensation part of it, do you think at any point

849
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 9: that you think, you know, maybe I need to kind

850
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 9: of step step you know, no, sort of play it cautiously,

851
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 9: didn't we No, I.

852
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 15: Mean I was hitting the ball really well in warm ups.

853
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 15: I mean, of course, it was all I mean, but

854
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 15: I was fine. I was I was hitting the ball great,

855
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 15: making a lot of kicks, and I think I hit

856
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 15: everything under fifty yards, So it wasn't a bother you know.

857
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 15: I was going into the game confident.

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00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

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00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 15: The hamstring is just that's just bad luck. I mean,

860
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 15: I didn't have any issues with it before. I've never

861
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 15: had you know, hamstring injury. So uh yeah, I don't

862
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 15: think there's anything. There's no correlation between the two of

863
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 15: them as far as I'm concerned.

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00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: It's my mindset now. It was just getting it ready.

865
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 15: And and doing whatever I can, you know, to to

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00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 15: help the team win.

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00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 7: Did you think they would let them maybe, you know,

868
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 7: kick the ball more.

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00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 15: After the missing I have no idea, you know, I'm

870
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 15: just I'm just a player. I just just try to

871
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 15: play the game. And I'm sure whatever decisions are our

872
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 15: staff makes are the right ones.

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00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: You know.

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00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 15: Well, I've got full confidence in them, and our job

875
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 15: is just to be ready whatever we're called. So, you know,

876
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 15: I'm sure if we could do it again, we do

877
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 15: the exact same thing. Help with that hamster upset that

878
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 15: it doesn't feel good, that's for sure.

879
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll uh, I'll be funny. Obviously.

880
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 9: You see Jamie knowing and he does practice it.

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00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, he's a great kicker. He's done a great

882
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 15: job with him. He saw him last year, I think

883
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 15: it was against the Saints. He did a really good job.

884
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

885
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: Sorry, you ass there has been warm ups? What was

886
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 3: going on with her and warm ups? I was drilling

887
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: field goals. Wasn't your normal routine. It seemed like you

888
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: were in Oh.

889
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, I ran side to get my growing wrapped up.

890
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 15: But I mean it's just you know, just dealing with

891
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 15: little things, and then the kickoff is completely different.

892
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: It was just him straight.

893
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 7: Sorry, So kickoff? Did you guys aim the two? Usually

894
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 7: when you see it the two, that's probably the goal.

895
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 18: I presume you can't.

896
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 3: I can't get any details with it.

897
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 10: I got.

898
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: Specifics with that.

899
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 20: I know you're a competitor. Did any party he didn't grow?

900
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 20: But did any party who say like, I don't don't

901
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 20: change this?

902
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 16: No?

903
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: I mean I was stepped for step with that. Yeah.

904
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 15: I don't know if if you all missed that, but

905
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 15: I think it was gonna be tough to catch him.

906
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 15: But I mean that's just the competitiveness.

907
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: You know, it's a.

908
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 15: Regular season, so we're gonna we're gonna try and get

909
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 15: him down. I wish i'd seen there was a flag,

910
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 15: but I mean, you don't see that stuff. It's just

911
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 15: it's tough luck. You can't blame it on anything, you know,

912
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 15: whether it's my growing dealing with or what I was.

913
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 15: I was kicking the ball well and it's just tough luck.

914
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: There you have it, folks.

915
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: If you had any questions about whether or not Graham

916
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: Guno should have been active or he was potentially not

917
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: ready to kick in this game, I think he said

918
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: it right there, jac He said he felt great and

919
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: warm ups, went back in, had the growing raps that

920
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: he hit all his kicks from under forty yards.

921
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 5: He felt good.

922
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: The hamstring completely unrelated, And I get where the questions

923
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: are coming from. But Graham Gonno sounded like a guy

924
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: that was very confident that he was good to go

925
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 2: kicking the football heading into this game.

926
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: Well, we all know. I'm not a doctor here, but

927
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: we all know when you have an injury in your body,

928
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: it's definitely related to other parts of your body. So

929
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: I know it's not like connected, but it is. So

930
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, but come on, guys, what are

931
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: we talking about here? Smelke.

932
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just what I look, it's two separate injuries.

933
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: It is, but it's not you know what I mean?

934
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: Like if you, for example, I go in with a

935
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: hamstring and I hurt my knee. Yes, there's two separate injuries,

936
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: but one thing probably caused the other. Are they on

937
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: the same leg, It doesn't matter. It's the body. That's

938
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: how the body works. It compensates for other things. So

939
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: if you have a deficiency, somewhere somewhere else is pulling

940
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: and that probably the handstring. You know what I mean.

941
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is is like I've been Trust me,

942
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: I've been on an injury port like you said, plenty

943
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: of times where I go in with one thing and

944
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: I come out with something else because of the injury

945
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: I went in with. So I'm healthy and I put

946
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: air quotes up, but then I come out with something else.

947
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: That's the that's the NFL, though, smells right. I totally

948
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: get what you're saying.

949
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 2: But at some point you have to make the decision

950
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: of whether or not you're gonna have a second kick

951
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: or active.

952
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: Right, But you won't do it off to that though. Right.

953
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: If you say you're to go, you're good to go.

954
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 5: Right, That was the point I was trying to make.

955
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: You could possibly there be some interrelation there from a

956
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: biomechanical standpoint of course, absolutely, one hundred percent, But you

957
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: cannot make another player active on your fifty three based

958
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 2: off that possibility.

959
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: Point no, And we talked about the kicker, right, The

960
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: kicker position is a little bit different than a regular position. Right,

961
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,479
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback who has a throwing arm that's

962
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: not good, you make sure you have at least two backups. Like,

963
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: that's what you do, you know what I mean. So

964
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: it's things that specific positions require. Right, kickers don't really

965
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: require backup if you have a healthy kicker, and he

966
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: was healthy, you know. But like everybody has something coming

967
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: into a game. You know, at week eighteen, right when

968
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: the Giants have played seventeen excive me, sixteen games and

969
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: they're going into their last game, every single person on

970
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: the team has something going on with their body. So

971
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: it may not be related to another injury. But if

972
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: you have something that gets tweaked, it's probably from something

973
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: that you've been dealing with that had nothing to do

974
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: with his injury. But it does because that's how a

975
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: human body works.

976
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: Very possible, we're on the same page. Those sicks can

977
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: always be interrelated. But the question, the point of the

978
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 2: questions had been, well you should have had Jude Mikatom

979
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: They've no active because of that.

980
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: Right, but no correct, Yeah, all right, No, I'm with

981
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: you with that. Yeah, we're absolutely on the same disagreeing

982
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: with God saying that it's separate because it's not. You

983
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

984
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 5: I hear you, I hear you.

985
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: You have a sore hamstring going into a game, like

986
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: you know that something else might happen that's on the

987
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: opposite leg or the same leg, because your hamshring is

988
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: not fully functioning correctly. Same thing for growing, same thing

989
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: for back. All of that stuff is all interrelated.

990
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: Totally get it all right, Let's go to the defensive

991
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: side of the ball. Because despite the fact this defense

992
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: did not force.

993
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 5: A punt and they gave up two.

994
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: Hundred yards rushing the head coach and not going to

995
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: question about the defense. That's interesting, man, And uh, we

996
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: haven't really said much about it in the past two

997
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: segments because no one's been asked about it. So we

998
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: did get kevon Thibodeau in the locker room after the game.

999
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: I would hope he got asked about the defense. What

1000
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: lisited to what he said after the game?

1001
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: Right, defense, I.

1002
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 18: Got to watch the ten, got to wrap up, make tackles.

1003
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 19: When you love, don't give up touchdown of the game.

1004
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 25: I'm sure you expect to win, but it was a

1005
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 25: frustrating to not being able to get off the field

1006
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 25: as often.

1007
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 18: You know, trying to stay cloud. It's not third down

1008
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 18: numbers for exactly, they are to.

1009
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 7: Be that inefficient and throw down like how you how

1010
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 7: hard is it cut?

1011
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 18: That's a good question to ask about that far back to.

1012
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 20: You now, Yeah, seven or fourteen like fifty percent here,

1013
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 20: that's probably not what you guys aim for.

1014
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 18: What are you looking for?

1015
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 11: Uh?

1016
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 18: I don't know that's a good question right now. I

1017
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 18: can't everything you need to answer. I gotta come back

1018
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 18: to you now.

1019
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 28: Came on, you guys kind of took a lot of

1020
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 28: punches last year and were able to come out of

1021
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 28: it late and win some games. Or are you how

1022
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 28: what's your level of concern at zero and two and

1023
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 28: to lose the way you did today?

1024
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 19: How frustrating?

1025
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 18: Must be nice the NFL, man, You just gotta keep

1026
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 18: keep pushing forward.

1027
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 19: Or how just sick are you?

1028
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 7: How this point six and thirteen since the started last year?

1029
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 7: How tired are you of this feeling?

1030
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 10: Man?

1031
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 18: I'm not sick at all, to be honest, I'm pretty healthy.

1032
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 3: You No, I guess I mean, you know what I mean.

1033
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 26: Yeah, but just let's try to keep healthy mind what

1034
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 26: you know, just keep pushing forward, impact the game.

1035
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: How you can do?

1036
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 9: You see ways where this defense is close, and that's

1037
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 9: why you still you maintain they can get better? Is

1038
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 9: that fair or you know?

1039
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 18: I think you know, if there's a will, there's a way.

1040
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 26: So seventeen games, all you can do is focus on,

1041
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 26: you know, what you can control and continue to get better.

1042
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 19: Keep on seeing Daniels in personnel. How much faster and

1043
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 19: quicker is he?

1044
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: Maybe the use on film out there?

1045
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 26: Uh, you know, we we know what to expect coming out.

1046
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 26: He's a great player and he executed it when they

1047
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 26: needed him.

1048
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 2: Not a ton there from Kevon Thibodeau. Tons of answers

1049
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: as to why the defense struggled. Did jac.

1050
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: You can hear the frustration, you know, that's what the

1051
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: deflection is. Frustration. You know, that's what I think you're

1052
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: hearing from. Not him, not just him. But let's listen

1053
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: to the other interviews. I bet you there's going to

1054
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: be kind of a similar type of story. But I

1055
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: understand it. I've been a player, bro like I've been

1056
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: there on an Owen who start. It's really hard to

1057
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: talk to the media right after a game like this.

1058
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: It's really hard to kind of compress your feelings and

1059
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: not you know, be like, yo, get out of my face,

1060
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: because that's how they feel. That's how they feel. I've

1061
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: been there, bro, I don't be wanting to talk. I

1062
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: remember guys chasing me in the locker room saying, jac

1063
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: you have to talk. You're the captain. It's like, bro,

1064
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: come on, you know, and I had to do what.

1065
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: You did, and you did a good job with it.

1066
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 5: Thought I remember talking to the games.

1067
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: I think I did a little better than what he

1068
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: just did, you know what I mean. But this is

1069
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: the frustration with an own two start. You know what

1070
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: the Giants did last year, you know, the frustration of

1071
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: the question, the challenging questions from the New York media.

1072
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: You know, that's the thing about the Giants. The Giants

1073
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: have a great slew of beat reporters that ask those

1074
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: tough questions every single week. And I think the guys

1075
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: are just taking kind of what day Balls approach is

1076
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: kind of being pc, not given too much, and then

1077
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: always deflecting on saying let me look at the film,

1078
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: which is always good because you don't really exactly know

1079
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: what happened on every and that's until you watched a film,

1080
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: So I don't. I'm not minded. It's a little comical.

1081
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: I was laughing during some of the answers, you know,

1082
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: because I see the frustration. That's what I'm hearing in

1083
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: his voice. It's deflection, but it's really frustration.

1084
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: All Right.

1085
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: We have Paul Latino joining us on the phone. He

1086
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: just exited the locker room down there in DC after

1087
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: the twenty one to eighteen loss. Paul, I'll leave it

1088
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: open for you. What struck you about your experience in

1089
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: the locker room after the game?

1090
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 10: First thing, First, do you know how pride fulmer leak

1091
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 10: neighbors is. He was stoic in his locker after the game.

1092
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 10: He just sat there, took off his jersey and just

1093
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 10: sat there at his locker. And I didn't time it.

1094
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 10: I probably should have, but he just sat there and

1095
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 10: did not speak and was like mesmerized in a zen

1096
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 10: like trance, so upset of himself. And we know he's

1097
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 10: got great pride and he's always beating himself up whenever

1098
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 10: he doesn't make a play. Finally, after quite a while,

1099
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 10: he then got undressed, went to the shower, came back out,

1100
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 10: got dressed, and there was very polite, respectful, and talked

1101
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 10: to the media for I don't know good eight minutes

1102
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 10: or so, answered every question and of course explained how

1103
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 10: he can't live down the one drop on fourth down

1104
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 10: at the end, it's saying he has to make that catch.

1105
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 10: He knows he's got to make that catch, and it's

1106
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 10: going to haunt him and he's not going to be

1107
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 10: able to get over it, even though he did catch

1108
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 10: a touchdown and ten passes for well over one hundred yards.

1109
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 10: But what else would you expect him to say, John,

1110
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 10: Because after all, you and I have been dealing with

1111
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 10: this guy now for the better part of the summer.

1112
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we will have that five We have about

1113
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: five minutes of Malik Neighbors sound. We're going to get

1114
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: that for everybody on our network after this segment with Paul,

1115
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: What did you get from some of the defensive guys,

1116
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: Paul in terms of an explanation for how they frankly

1117
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: played so poorly today?

1118
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 10: Well, very please with the red zone. I mean, let's say,

1119
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 10: sit the Washington Commander's got inside the fifth team or

1120
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 10: better six times and had six field goals, but obviously

1121
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 10: not good enough on third down. I'm sure you have

1122
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 10: the numbers there. Just unacceptable on third down. A number

1123
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 10: of tough plays unacceptable and that's what the guys were

1124
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 10: hopping on that that just should not happen. And there

1125
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 10: were some mistakes and assessment, some mistakes and some fits,

1126
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 10: and guys like like, that's the stuff that's got to

1127
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 10: be cleaned up. Because they played hard, there's no question

1128
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 10: about that. Nobody said they ran out of gas either

1129
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 10: at the end, and they were given that opportunity. A

1130
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 10: number of players were given that chance to say, well,

1131
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 10: maybe after a very tough, nip and tough cover war

1132
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 10: kind of game, maybe you just ran out of gas. No,

1133
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 10: the guys. The guys refused to say that. They're still

1134
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 10: very optimistic that there's a lot here. They're very pleased

1135
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 10: at the pass rush picked up significantly, but at the

1136
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 10: same time, when push came to shove, they wound up

1137
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 10: giving up more points than they had. I don't think

1138
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 10: any of them would. In fact, I tell you none

1139
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 10: of them said it, but I personally believe that had

1140
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 10: they had access to a field goal kicker, this thing

1141
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 10: was probably going to come out differently.

1142
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, when you were talking about, you know, the

1143
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: defense and getting off the field on third down, there

1144
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: was a lot of penalties, well, not a lot, there was,

1145
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: there were some penalties on third down, especially I think

1146
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: the second to last drive by the Commanders where they

1147
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: would burns out a sack and it was negated by

1148
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: a holding call on Drew Phillips, who I think Drew

1149
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: Phillips had a heck of a game, and that's kind

1150
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: of like the scenario. And if you look at today's game,

1151
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: a lot of players who played very well made kind

1152
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: of those mistakes at a crucial point of the game,

1153
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: which ended up being kind of like the overall like

1154
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: outcome of the game. Good players playing.

1155
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 10: Problem Jason right is that decisive mistakes were made at

1156
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 10: critical times and it really does a lot to losh

1157
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 10: your win. So much of the good right that they

1158
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 10: did have, I think I think the one thing that

1159
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 10: that really kind of troubled me is that on the

1160
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 10: last drive, the pass to Noel Brown that got them

1161
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 10: across midfield. I had asked Jason Pinnott, what is said

1162
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 10: that they saw there? Was they're a buster? What exactly happened?

1163
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 10: He was wide open in the middle of the field.

1164
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 10: But that was such a gas play that, you know,

1165
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 10: put the commanders in position to then you know, finish

1166
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 10: the game with that field goal. And he just said, look,

1167
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 10: he just got opened. Didn't seem to think that it

1168
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 10: was a bust. It was just to play that the

1169
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 10: commander's bay.

1170
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: But you say that, right, And yes, there was a

1171
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: huge cushion by fly. I don't know exactly what defense

1172
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: they were in. But then after that play, Paul, there

1173
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: was an eleven yard run by Robinson and it was

1174
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: a fourteen yard run by Daniels. It's like the Giants

1175
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: had a lot of opportunities throughout the game to create

1176
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: stops on third down, to create stops on whatever down

1177
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: it was, and it was a whole bunch of missed opportunities.

1178
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: And I think some guy played extremely well on defense,

1179
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: but other guys like look, and I'm gonna call his

1180
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: name out because I love Bobbio Carrikett. I love the

1181
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: way he plays, but he has to show up a

1182
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: little bit more because he's that good of a player

1183
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: and I need to see a little bit more out

1184
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: of him. Bobby is phenomenal. He's been a little quiet

1185
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: these first two weeks and the Giants need their defense

1186
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,959
Speaker 1: to lead their team. That's the Giants MO. We talked

1187
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: about the hundred right, the hundred players last week? Right,

1188
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: who did they introduce last They introduced the linebackers. Because

1189
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: the linebackers, the defensive units of the Giants historically has

1190
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: led their teams to championships. And they have to show up.

1191
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: Bobby O. Carrikett has to show up. Kevon Thibodeau has

1192
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: to show up. Brian Burns was impactful sack of his

1193
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: late and again got negated Bob Penalty. Like, these guys

1194
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: need to show up on a consistent basis because you

1195
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: know what, the Giants offense probably will struggle throughout the

1196
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: first half of the season, but the defense, Shane Bowen,

1197
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: the guys on the defensive side of the ball, they

1198
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: have to play than they have been playing. That's what

1199
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: they have to do, Paul, and I think they're capable

1200
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: of doing it because I've seen it from every single

1201
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: one of them. I've seen Keayvon Tabodeau have great games

1202
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: against the Commanders. I've seen them frustrate them close. They

1203
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: call him the closer because what he did against the Commanders.

1204
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: Brian Burns we've seen him dominate games over there in Carolina.

1205
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: We haven't seen it from Yes, there's only two games

1206
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: in Dexter, Lawrence. We've seen him dominate the first quarter

1207
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: of the Vikings game. Like, I'm just expecting more from

1208
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: the defense because I know they can do more, Paul.

1209
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: That's what I'm That's why I'm I'm feeling it right

1210
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: now because of that.

1211
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 10: I did talk to Okera Kay and Thibodeaux and Burns,

1212
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 10: and all three of those guys gave point fingers at

1213
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 10: themselves saying, you know, I could have made more plays,

1214
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 10: I could have made some better fits. I left some

1215
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 10: plays out there. All three of those guys said that,

1216
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 10: in addition to saying that overall, the defense has to

1217
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 10: do better and they understand that. So I think that

1218
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 10: they would absolutely welcome your comments.

1219
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: Final question, Paul, But before he on the train, we

1220
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: already heard from Brian Dable and Graham Gonna on the

1221
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: postgame show talking about the decision to have him active

1222
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 2: and then the hamstring injury, whether or not they could

1223
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: have had Jude mikatom Nay active for this game, anything

1224
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: else you gleam from that situation rolling the locker room

1225
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 2: post game.

1226
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 10: No, the only thing I know is that when Gno

1227
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 10: passed by me in the locker, he seemed to think

1228
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 10: that it wasn't going to be long term. But obviously

1229
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 10: he was distraught and disappointed. And you know, as far

1230
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 10: as Jamie Gellens concerned, you know, he was a kicker

1231
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 10: slash punter in college, but you know that's a big

1232
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 10: difference than the NFL. Only one for two on field

1233
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 10: goals in his NFL career, and obviously the Giants felt

1234
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 10: like they were not going to not going to call

1235
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 10: on him in the second half of this game when

1236
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 10: the game was extremely tight.

1237
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 2: Paul, appreciate it, my friend. Have a safe trip back

1238
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: up here, and we'll see you during the week.

1239
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: Right.

1240
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, the bus is about to leave, John B.

1241
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: Well, go Paully.

1242
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,120
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1243
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,200
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1245
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Speaker 2: Giants Quick time Out. We'll come back. We'll hear from

1246
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: Elik Neighbors in the locker room. After the Giants twenty

1247
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: one to eighteen defeat to the Washington Commanders.

1248
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 4: You're listening to Giants Extra point on the Wfan Giants

1249
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 4: radio network.

1250
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 6: This is Brian Dabill, head football coach in New York Giants,

1251
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 6: and you're listening to radio home of Big Blue the Fan,

1252
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 6: WFAN and WFANFM, New York.

1253
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: Back here on Giants Extra point, Giants fall out of command.

1254
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: There's twenty one to eighteen. Malakue Neighbors who played an

1255
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 2: excellent game, best game obviously of his very young career.

1256
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: It's only a second game, but in the game he

1257
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: finished with ten catches. In this contest, he finished with

1258
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty seven yards his first ever NFL touchdown,

1259
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: but on a key fourth and four late on the Giants'

1260
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: final drive when they were trying to score a touchdown

1261
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 2: to cement their lead in this game, he dropped the

1262
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: pass on the sidline that could have converted a fourth

1263
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 2: and four. I'm sure he was asked about that a

1264
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 2: ton when he talked to the media after the game.

1265
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: Let's listen in.

1266
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 25: The league, if you can describe the kind of up

1267
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 25: that you felt to me and making as many plays

1268
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 25: as you did.

1269
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 18: But I didn't know how hard.

1270
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 19: You are on yourself.

1271
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 25: You don't think just one play, So yeah, could you

1272
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 25: describe the kind of open down emotions that you go

1273
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 25: through when.

1274
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 19: You know you make a tunnel play spreading and it's

1275
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 19: one that I know you want.

1276
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 18: I mean, there's really not know up and down. It's

1277
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 18: really just really.

1278
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1279
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 18: It's it's really just a.

1280
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 29: Going back in my head and seeing how could I

1281
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,959
Speaker 29: have done it different with mistakes I made? Uh, hoping

1282
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 29: to get it back, but I know I couldn't. You know,

1283
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 29: I can't get that play back.

1284
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 18: Yeah, just got very guard. You gotta play you think

1285
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 18: you should make?

1286
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 29: I mean obviously, yeah, I'm they're higher on me, they

1287
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 29: passing me the ball. They know I can make players.

1288
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 29: I'm sure you know out of thousand times, they gonna

1289
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 29: continue to call it playing, going me on fo it

1290
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:50,479
Speaker 29: down again.

1291
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 18: So obviously I wanna make.

1292
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 7: That douw Could you ever be aident?

1293
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 18: You wanna how many? I'm disappointed.

1294
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 29: I mean, no matter how good of a game you

1295
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 29: can play, that last player came down to me. I'm

1296
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 29: just I'm hurt that I let those veterans down. I mean,

1297
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 29: they know what kind of player I am. Deck Burns like, yeah,

1298
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 29: I know what kind of confidence they got in me.

1299
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 29: So just letting those guys down. It just I don't

1300
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 29: wanna never let my team down. That's that's the main

1301
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 29: model that's in my head is don't let my team down.

1302
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 8: And I let my team.

1303
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 28: You know, how do you use the past when you

1304
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 28: had a play that you just can't get over right away?

1305
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:33,959
Speaker 8: How do you past?

1306
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 18: I mean you don't. You just you play the game

1307
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 18: and then you just forget about it.

1308
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 29: I mean, i'm'a this whole week, i'm'a think about it

1309
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 29: until I play the next game and then it goes

1310
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 29: in the past.

1311
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 18: But until then it's i'm'a continue to think about it.

1312
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 18: So you have to sign uh Jaden Jersey here.

1313
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 7: What was like playing against them in their rookie season

1314
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 7: and also trading Jersey?

1315
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 29: I mean, it meant the word to me to see

1316
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 29: that in our dream is finally came tor he's one

1317
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 29: of the way against me.

1318
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 18: Yeah, I can see that.

1319
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 29: Or I'm just happy that, you know, he got the

1320
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 29: chance to live up his dream and me live my

1321
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 29: dream and we can share it together even though we're

1322
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 29: on the.

1323
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 18: Opposite side of the field.

1324
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 29: It's it's just unique watching him play, and I'm sure

1325
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 29: there's unique him watching me play.

1326
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 23: Did you share any tips with the defense, maybe on

1327
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 23: you playing with him and.

1328
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 18: Al I usually I never came up to them and

1329
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 18: was like this, this, this and that.

1330
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 29: You know, if they asking me questions about it and

1331
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 29: I I told him, you know everything, they wanted to

1332
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 29: aks about it, But I wasn't going up to them

1333
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 29: and telling them about it. It's you can watch film

1334
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 29: on you can watch film on them. You can understand

1335
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 29: what vicinities is and just how he plays.

1336
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 28: That's the first time you were You were buzzed from

1337
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 28: upstairs to go get checked in that first half for

1338
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 28: like concussion.

1339
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, what is the range of emotions when you find out.

1340
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 28: You know you you seem like you popped up fo

1341
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 28: you off.

1342
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 18: I got imagine it's a little bit of uncertainty message.

1343
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 29: I mean I was, I just didn't know what was

1344
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 29: going on. It was just like you gotta go out

1345
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 29: to the field. I was like why, But that's just

1346
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 29: the protocol.

1347
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: That they had.

1348
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 29: They trying to keep us safe. So I got and

1349
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 29: follow their rules. I mean, thanks to that ref. He

1350
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 29: came up on the island and he was just like,

1351
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 29: I know you're okay. I'm just trying to look out

1352
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 29: for your safety. So, uh, that's great that we have

1353
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 29: those kind of reps out there and just looking out

1354
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 29: for our safety.

1355
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: Relieve they they really couldn't guard you.

1356
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 24: What what was that feeling, like the fact that Daniel

1357
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 24: went to you so often.

1358
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 29: That you were up with So, I mean, it's just

1359
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 29: the word that we put in just though you know,

1360
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 29: the it just he's he's certain that if he throws me,

1361
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 29: the ball plays gonna be made or the ball just

1362
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 29: gonna be knocked down. So just him going at me

1363
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 29: that many times, he saw how much trust he has

1364
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 29: in me, show how much you know, trust his offense

1365
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 29: has in me.

1366
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 18: So you know it just moving on and continue to grow.

1367
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 9: Did you know coming into the game you were gonna

1368
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 9: get targeted me a lot like that?

1369
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 29: I mean no, I mean you always going to the

1370
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 29: the game with a game plan. I knew I was

1371
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 29: gonna get a lot of you know, opportunities, but I

1372
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 29: didn't think that.

1373
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 3: Meant have you ever had whatever?

1374
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 8: The final number was sixteen eighteen targets in the game.

1375
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 29: Uh, I did, I had a I had a lot

1376
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 29: of targets in like I think it was first week

1377
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 29: of Florida State last year had like eighteen, So there's.

1378
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 18: No there's no you get me getting that many target's.

1379
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 29: I want those kind of mini targets. So it shows

1380
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 29: how much, you know, my offense cares about me. To

1381
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 29: give me the ball in space, let me do my,

1382
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 29: let me do my.

1383
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 3: You know what I'm able to do.

1384
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 18: So does happened at many targets to show how much

1385
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 18: offense and trust you.

1386
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 3: I know you wanted to come into vig drugs.

1387
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: But what did that first touchdown in the NFLVK.

1388
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 29: I mean, it was good to finally get an end zone,

1389
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 29: but Maxie Moss thought I forgot about three All yeah.

1390
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 8: Did you feel kind of a better connection with with

1391
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 8: Channel this week?

1392
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 29: I mean, I mean yeah, we were just finally open spots.

1393
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 29: He was trusting me on one on one matchups. Dave

1394
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 29: S came up our line. It was like, what plays

1395
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 29: you wanna run? I told him a couple of plays

1396
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 29: and then he continued to call him so.

1397
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 3: Great.

1398
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 29: Then I got those you know, those guys on my side,

1399
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 29: you know they come up to me to ask what

1400
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 29: players I want.

1401
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 18: That's a rookie. It show how much confidence could happen me.

1402
01:01:59,240 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 10: J S.

1403
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: Your thought We've heard from league neighbors a bunch in

1404
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: the preseason and regular season, and once again, just a

1405
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: very mature kid obviously beating himself up over that drop pass.

1406
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: Never changed, never changed like this. This kid is phenomenal,

1407
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, and everybody's frustrated, not just the defense, you know,

1408
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: and he's frustrated too, you know. I mean you saw

1409
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: it visibly on the sideline at the end. And you know,

1410
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: Paula Tino talked about how to straw. He looked to

1411
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: sitting at his locker. But did you hear his answers.

1412
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: He sounds like he's been in the league for like

1413
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: seven eight seven eight years, he did. You know, he

1414
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: sounds very mature in his answers. And look, he's a

1415
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: guy that I think can galvanize the team, you know,

1416
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: And there will be another fourth down, maybe not in four,

1417
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,959
Speaker 1: might be fourth down in twelve, It might be fourth

1418
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: down in two, you know, and they're gonna go to

1419
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: him again because he's that good of a player and

1420
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna count on him. So you know, he's a

1421
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: guy that you know, as of right now, he's the

1422
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: best option for the Giants. And you know, if he

1423
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: has that mentality as that ball's mind, every single time

1424
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: which he does, the Giants can continue to go for him,

1425
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: go to him. You know he's gonna be there. He's

1426
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna make that catch next time, you know. And it

1427
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: sucks to say because he had a phenomenal game, a

1428
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: phenomenal game, just you know that one drive when he

1429
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: had to touchdown. He had a couple plays on that

1430
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: drive where he just caught a four to five yard

1431
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: route and turned it into a big play. Like There's

1432
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: not a lot of guys in the NFL that can

1433
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: do that. Those guys they're getting paid thirty five million

1434
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: dollars a year, schmelt, you know what I mean. So

1435
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: he's a guy that you know, he can continue to

1436
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: have that mentality. He will be successful in the NFL

1437
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: and he will help the Giants to some wins.

1438
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: Please stick with us if you're listening on our local

1439
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: flagship station here in New York. But right now it's

1440
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: time to say goodbye to the affiliates across the country

1441
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: on the Giants Radio Network. Our next broadcast will be

1442
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: next Sunday when the Giants take on the Cleveland Browns

1443
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: in Cleveland. Our pregame show beginning at eleven am right

1444
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: here on these same stations. Thanks for listening to us today.

1445
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: The Giants fall to the Commanders twenty one to eighteen.

1446
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week on the WFAN Giants Radio network.

1447
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 5: But we're not done right here on the Fan in

1448
01:03:58,560 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 5: New York.

1449
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: Johnathan can see us, and I will take your calls

1450
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: at eight seven seven.

1451
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 1: Three three seven.

1452
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I got the wrong number eighty eight eight

1453
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: oh eight one zero one nine, and I was gonna

1454
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: do that at least once. Eight eight eight eight oh

1455
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: eight one zero one nine. Give us a call and

1456
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: we'll continue to break it down. We have more audio

1457
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: from the locker room, Brian Burns, Bobby Okarac and others.

1458
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 2: All that and more as we continue right here on

1459
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: Giant's extra point.

1460
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

1461
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 21: Four and four at the twenty two with two twenty

1462
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 21: to go here in the game, tied at eighteen, y'all's

1463
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 21: out of a shotgun set falls out, signals, takes the

1464
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 21: stats back to throw pumps under pressure.

1465
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 22: Now fires one right and completes it, and oh, it's

1466
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 22: dropped my neighbors along the sideline. He would have had

1467
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 22: the first down and he dropped it. And he pounds

1468
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 22: the turf his frustration with two oh.

1469
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 3: Four to go.

1470
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: Unfortunately from e laite neighbor, that is our Giants turning

1471
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 2: point of the game. Listening to Boomer and g on

1472
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: our flag substation WFN tomorrow morning in a nine am

1473
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: hour for the Giants turning point contest to first CREC

1474
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 2: call or to name the Giants turning point, we'll win

1475
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: two tickets to an upcoming Giants home game. And neighbors

1476
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 2: had a fantastic game ten catches on eighteen targets one

1477
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven yards in a touchdown long of

1478
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: twenty eight. But that pass, if completed, would have given

1479
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: the Giants a first down in the fourth quarter was

1480
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 2: the Giants' final drive on offense. They had it fourth

1481
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: and four on that drive on the Washington twenty two

1482
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: yard line with just two o nine to go. Jac

1483
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 2: that would have given him the first down, he would

1484
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: have been out of bounds one more play. You get

1485
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: to the two minute warning, the commanders have to start

1486
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: burning timeouts, even if you still have to go another

1487
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: eighteen or so yards or twenty or so yards for

1488
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 2: a touchdown. But maybe when you get that close and

1489
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 2: you're looking at a you know, twenty eight yard field goal.

1490
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: Maybe you can trust Jamie Gillen there to make that

1491
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: if it's even shorter than an extra point.

1492
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: So so if they can convert that, this game could

1493
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: have ended very differently. Yeah. Absolutely, But there's no guarantee,

1494
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: like you said, you know, the you know, Giants elected

1495
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: not to you know, kick the ball after Ganeau excuse me,

1496
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: Ganeau gets injured and Gilla missed the first field goal attempt. Yep. Uh,

1497
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't try to do it anymore. So

1498
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: it's not a guarantee that if he would have caught

1499
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: that ball, the Giants would have still uh you know,

1500
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: lost the game or won the game, excuse me after that.

1501
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: So you know, he's gonna beat himself up about it.

1502
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: But this is the thing about the fans, and I

1503
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: know about the fans in New York, right, They're not

1504
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: that they're gonna forget about it, but they're gonna look

1505
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: at this game as a whole body of work for neighbors.

1506
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, the kid's phenomenal. And I understand

1507
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: that he dropped the pass at the end, but he

1508
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: had a heck of a game. That's what the fans

1509
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: are going to say about neighbors. They're not complaining about

1510
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: neighbors this game. They're not. Trust me, they're not. You know,

1511
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: if you have any callers here that are going to

1512
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: complain about neighbors, please send them through Connor. Please. I

1513
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: bet you there's none. Because the kid had a phenomenal game.

1514
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: He's a new player. I expect drops from rookies. That's

1515
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: what happened. We saw that last week, in the first

1516
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: week of the season, and you know, it was a

1517
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: costly drop. But you have a chance. You have a

1518
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,479
Speaker 1: lot of chances fifteen more actually this season to prove

1519
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: that you are that guy and you can make those catches.

1520
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: And he will. I promise you he will.

1521
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: They'll throw that the ball to him every time at

1522
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: the next fifteen games. They will trust him to catch

1523
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 2: it every time. He is the most explosive player on

1524
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: this offense, and he will be the best player on

1525
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: this offense probably for the rest of the year if

1526
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: it keeps up like this. Just an an fortunate to

1527
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 2: drop and an unfortunate circumstance as the Giants fall to

1528
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: the command, there's twenty one eighteen.

1529
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: I see you guys in the line.

1530
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to your calls in just a second

1531
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 2: at eight eight eight eight oh eight one zero one nine.

1532
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: But first, another player jac that had a very strong

1533
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 2: game was Devin Singletary. Sixteen rushes, ninety five yards, six

1534
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: yards to carry, He had a.

1535
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 5: Twenty two yard run.

1536
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: He had a touchdown run as well in this game,

1537
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: called one pass for one yard, but he did have

1538
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: that costly fumble in Commander's territory that stalled one of

1539
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: the giants seven drives in this game. Let's hear from

1540
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 2: Devin Singletary after the game.

1541
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 19: Devint, You've been in this league at a long time,

1542
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 19: so you know that sometimes with the good that comes

1543
01:07:59,720 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 19: the best.

1544
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 25: And yeah, how do you weigh the frustration overcoming so

1545
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 25: close in this morning and losing it down to the

1546
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 25: struct and uh.

1547
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 17: Just gotta use it as fuel. That's really where they

1548
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 17: come down to when we're real close, you know, headed

1549
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 17: in the direction we wanna go in to. They wasn't

1550
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 17: the outcome that we wanted, but just gotta use this as.

1551
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 25: You guys did get the money game going much better

1552
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 25: than you did last week, and you were certainly went hard.

1553
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 19: That was certainly a step in the right direction. What

1554
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 19: was going right that you'll be able to use.

1555
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 18: There, y'all.

1556
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 17: Huh man, the big guys just getting movement. Big guys

1557
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 17: got the uh receivers getting in the tight ends, getting

1558
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 17: in on it and uh we can definitely build off.

1559
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 3: Of that already.

1560
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 25: And I have to ask you about the fumble. Yeah,

1561
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 25: look like the guy came in and punched it out

1562
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 25: from behind. You probably didn't even see him.

1563
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 17: Yeah, I I felt him. I tried to put double

1564
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 17: in trouble, but I had it in my INSI own

1565
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 17: you know he got can't have that. You wanna win

1566
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 17: in a game, you gotta win a turn over bet 'em.

1567
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 17: And we lost the turnover a bet.

1568
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 25: I said, how difficult does that, even as a red

1569
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 25: War to be able to put that out of your

1570
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 25: mind so that as the continues to progress, you don't

1571
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 25: start thinking about a ghost.

1572
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 17: Yeah, sometime it could be difficult, but you know that's

1573
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 17: how mentality. You next place intellient good are bad. You

1574
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 17: gotta make the next play your best player.

1575
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 25: It was a s Swong game, Nipping Tunk go over way.

1576
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 25: Dane Jones certainly seemed to have much more command this week,

1577
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 25: and I had to feel good.

1578
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 19: In the huddle.

1579
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

1580
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 17: Man, he was a general out there to day and

1581
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 17: he's been a general.

1582
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 18: But we definitely felt his energy today and.

1583
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 19: You saw some big plays out of the league neighbors.

1584
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 25: I know the fourth down drop is gonna haunt him

1585
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 25: because he's very hard on himself. But you saw the

1586
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 25: kind of excitement he can bring through this offense.

1587
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 17: Yeah, man, great player, great guy, and like I said,

1588
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 17: we all can build off of this. Definitely a lot

1589
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 17: of learning experiences in this game as well.

1590
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 2: Three time and as a veteran JC. No surprise how

1591
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: Devin Singletary handled that after.

1592
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: The game, Oh absolutely, and even him, you know, the

1593
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: fumble was his mistake. That's his mistake that he did.

1594
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: He said it. It was a great play by the

1595
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: defensive player, but it was on his right in the

1596
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: inside where all the defenders are. He knows a lot

1597
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: better than that, you know. He made a crucial mistake

1598
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: that ended up, you know, being very costly to the

1599
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 1: Giants offense, you know, and scoring points, scoring points on

1600
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: that drive of course, because they turn the ball over.

1601
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: But he's gonna take accountability, you know, And honestly, I'm

1602
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: seeing I have a lot better appreciation for this team today.

1603
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: Than I did last week. Of course, they're making me

1604
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: feel a lot better. You know that this team is

1605
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: actually a team that can do something this year. You know,

1606
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: they have a lot of talent. Daniel Jones seems like,

1607
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, he may be one or two games away

1608
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: from playing like the Daniel Jones that we all think

1609
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: that he can be. Because look, let's not he's still

1610
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: two games away from excuse me, he's still only first

1611
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: two games from an injury at ACL injury, you know,

1612
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: and you looking around the league guys coming back off

1613
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: of injuries, right, Joe Burrow, how are those guys playing right?

1614
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like you got to put

1615
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: these things into context, you know what I mean? And

1616
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jones had a huge step today, Like

1617
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: Singletary said, Singletary, he said he felt his presence in

1618
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: the locker room. He said that, he said, see me,

1619
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: he felt his presence in the huddle, He felt his

1620
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 1: generalship in the huddle. That are that's good signs for

1621
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: the new Giants moving forward.

1622
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned Daniel Jones. We have a call on

1623
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 2: all and I wants to talk about DJ. Let's go

1624
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 2: to GEO in East Rutherford.

1625
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: We'll lead it.

1626
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 5: Well, we'll let do git lead off here on Giants

1627
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 5: extra point?

1628
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Pal?

1629
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 16: What's going on? Fella's how you doing? We're good, Thank

1630
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 16: you for taking my call. I just wanted to say,

1631
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 16: you know, when you look at the stat line, there

1632
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 16: were only four offensive targets throwing the ball today. Obviously

1633
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 16: Neighbors had a really big day, a little unfortunate at

1634
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 16: the end there what happened, But they only threw the

1635
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 16: ball to four different people today. Do you think that's

1636
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 16: something that the offensive play calling they should have been

1637
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 16: trying to look for different receivers to try and open

1638
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 16: the field up a little bit, because it looked like

1639
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 16: Neighbors was getting really really pressed by the d backs

1640
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 16: and the coverage throughout the game. I just wanted to

1641
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 16: get your guys opinion on that.

1642
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 2: Not you know, I think that's a really good question.

1643
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 2: The tight ends didn't have a target in this game.

1644
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: None for Theo Johnson, Daniel Bellinger or Chris Manhertz, jayal

1645
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 2: On and Hyatt did not have a target in this

1646
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 2: game either. It's hard for me to say personally, JC

1647
01:11:58,360 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 2: until you look at the all twenty two and you

1648
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: see if anybody else is open on the play. But

1649
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: did you sense that they were trying to force feed

1650
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: the lak neighbors when he wasn't open or do you

1651
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 2: think Jones, for the most part, made the right decisions

1652
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 2: in those situations.

1653
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: No, I think there's a lot of times we looked

1654
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: them like neighbors as wide up and throwing the ball.

1655
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 1: You know, you know we talked about earlier. Baker Mayfield said,

1656
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, they caught him with a hot mic and

1657
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: it was like, every time he's single covered, Mike Evans,

1658
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm throwing them the damn ball. And that's the approach

1659
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: you should have when you have a game changer. You know,

1660
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: you you draft a guy number six overall for a reason.

1661
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: You're paying these top receivers in the league thirty thirty

1662
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 1: five million dollars for a reason. Whenever they get single covered,

1663
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: you throw them the ball.

1664
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 25: Go O.

1665
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and yes, I said it too. Right when

1666
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: the show first started, there's only four different receivers that

1667
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: caught a ball for the Giants. That's the first thing

1668
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: that I said. But then I also saw a lot

1669
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: of plays where neighbors are single covered, I'm throwing him

1670
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: the ball. Go O every time he's single covered. I

1671
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: don't care if it's twenty five times, I'm throwing them

1672
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,879
Speaker 1: the ball. That's just what it is. He's that dynamic

1673
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: of a player. Whether it's five yards down the field,

1674
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: what there is, twenty five, thirty forty yards down the field,

1675
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm throwing him to football. I would like for other

1676
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: players to get involved because there are teams that's going

1677
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: to run a scheme to take away neighbors, and you

1678
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: have to at least have some type of you know,

1679
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: connection with some of these guys that are on the

1680
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 1: roster that are viable options and will be more viable

1681
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: options when a defense schemes up against the Giants that

1682
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: take away from neighbors.

1683
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 16: Very true, and also just one more quick thing in

1684
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 16: regards to the Jamie Gillen situation. I know he missed

1685
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 16: that first kick, but do you guys feel that they

1686
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 16: should have given him another chance to at least attempt

1687
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 16: maybe an extra point because there were some times there

1688
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 16: where if Gano's in the game, you know, that score

1689
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 16: is a little bit different. Maybe the Giants have twenty

1690
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 16: four points on the board going into that last drive,

1691
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 16: and maybe something that in a situation like this team

1692
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 16: should be working on in practice with their punter to

1693
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 16: just give them some reps kick and field goals and

1694
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 16: extra points. God forbids something like this does happen, unfortunately,

1695
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 16: like with Graham ganout early in the game today.

1696
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: Now GI, good question, Now no question, good good question,

1697
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: good call. And I wonder and we're not there to

1698
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 2: see it. Obviously we're here in New York. We probably

1699
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 2: should have asked Tatino this. He was probably had his

1700
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 2: ego eye on it. I wonder if they'd go and

1701
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: go out there at halftime and kick at halftime and

1702
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 2: they watched to see how he was kicking the ball.

1703
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if they did that or not. I

1704
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: got to imagine JC they did. Usually the specialists do

1705
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: go out there at halftime before the regular players come out.

1706
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 2: Regular players, the non special teams players parted me, sorry crab,

1707
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 2: good old JV. Gill And I'm gonna catch you know

1708
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: what for that if they hear about that. But uh,

1709
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: they usually do go out there during halftime and get

1710
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 2: some kicks in. And I know he does kick during

1711
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 2: the week on the side as the backup kicker, So

1712
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: it's a good question.

1713
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't have a great answer for him. To be

1714
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 1: honest with you, yeah, I mean, do you know you

1715
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: go with hindsight, right, Hindsight is like, okay, maybe we

1716
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: should have tried Jamie Gillen. I kicked her, but what

1717
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: if you know he missed, And then it's like, do

1718
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: we should have went for to winger versus Well, here's

1719
01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: a question. That's how it is.

1720
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 2: Let's say in theory, he makes the two extra points, right,

1721
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 2: and it's twenty to eighteen, your fourth and four forty

1722
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: yard field goal? Are you sending him out there to

1723
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 2: kick the forty yard field or are you still.

1724
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: Going for it? That's that's the question, right, And.

1725
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 2: I think they're forty yards I think they're probably still

1726
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 2: going for it there, and they have the Commanders go

1727
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 2: down to kick a field goal. Instead of winning twenty

1728
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 2: one eighteen, they win twenty one to twenty. Yeah, you know,

1729
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 2: and that's not as that's not a big deal, you

1730
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I don't know if they trust

1731
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 2: Gilling to kick a game winning forty yard field goal

1732
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: in that spot. I just don't know if they trust

1733
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: him in that spot.

1734
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I agree, and you have

1735
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: to earn your coaches trust and you know, he was

1736
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 1: put out there really early in the game after Gano

1737
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: went down and he missed, you know, and that was

1738
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: the opportunity for him to show that he deserves to

1739
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: kick the ball. And I think, you know, we had

1740
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: a caller earlier, you know, talking about, you know, should

1741
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: they have had, you know, an extra kicker activated, and

1742
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you do have another kicker on the roster.

1743
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 1: He just punts the ball for a living in the NFL,

1744
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: but he has kicking experience, you know. And like I said,

1745
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: you're not going to carry two kickers, but you're not

1746
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: doing that. You're not gonna have a backup kicker, Bro,

1747
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: You're not doing that. I don't know teams, what team

1748
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: does that.

1749
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 2: I don't know for fans that that know this. Juden

1750
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: nik Tote. He is the international player on the Giants

1751
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 2: practice squad. So they could have elevated and if they chose,

1752
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,799
Speaker 2: But we heard from grahamgen Are earlier in the postgame

1753
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 2: show and he said, look, I kicked before the game.

1754
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: I thought I was kicking the ball really well. He

1755
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 2: thought he was good to go. That's why the decision

1756
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 2: was made not to elevate him and take up one

1757
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 2: of those active forty six spots on game day.

1758
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is what it is. Hindsight's twenty twenty, right,

1759
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: I know that's the thing, but it doesn't guarantee anything.

1760
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 1: You know, if Gilllan would have considered continuoency kicked the ball,

1761
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: what if you'd have missed all of the field goals.

1762
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: And now it's like, all right, now, we really like hindsight.

1763
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: It's always twenty twenty. But it's those type of decisions

1764
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: that the Giants are now not making correctly this year.

1765
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: They didn't do it last year. They did it in

1766
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. They have to figure out these crui

1767
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: shoot things that happened because this is rare where your

1768
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: kicker gets hurt.

1769
01:16:58,479 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1770
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: They got to figure out when these if rare situations

1771
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: come up, you know, and I'm sure they weighed their

1772
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: options and stuff like that. Sometimes the ball don't bounce

1773
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 1: your way, and I think this is one of those

1774
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: situations where they decided to go away from a kicker

1775
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: who actually showed that he didn't show up for the

1776
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: opportunity that he got to kick the ball because he missed.

1777
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think they paid for it,

1778
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: but they kind of did.

1779
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: By the way, they could have also converted a two

1780
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: point conversion. You got to kill you hit Darius Layne.

1781
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: Look it was a high ball, but it's one that

1782
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 2: down lane you should have caught. Hit him in the hands,

1783
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 2: so that would have made up for the two non

1784
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: extra points if Gilan would have kicked them anyway.

1785
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 5: So that would have gotten you to twenty.

1786
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 2: And then you get back to the same question, forty

1787
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 2: yard kick are you putting going out there to try

1788
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 2: to kick a game winning field goal in a pressure

1789
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 2: situation at the end of the game on a fourth

1790
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 2: and four, which is a not an easy It's not

1791
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 2: a fourth and one here, but fourth and four is

1792
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,759
Speaker 2: one that you should have some confidence in trying to convert.

1793
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and that play was always going to come down

1794
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 1: to Neighbors making that catch. They didn't double him, you know,

1795
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: they didn't double them all game, you know. And look

1796
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: the kid got opened. Daniel Jones threw a perfect pass

1797
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: to him and him right in his hands and he

1798
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 1: dropped the ball. Looked like he was I don't know,

1799
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: because he was kind of leaning on the way out.

1800
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't a difficult catch to make, and he just

1801
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 1: dropped it, you know, and the Giants are going to

1802
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: look for him in the future. You know, the Giants

1803
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: are going to have another fourth down, whatever the case is,

1804
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: third down, critical point of the game, late in games,

1805
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,719
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go to the neighbors and he's gonna

1806
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: make that play.

1807
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 5: All right, let's go to Franken Siasid He's up next.

1808
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 30: Hi, frank Hey, guys, Well, I just a heartbreaking loss today,

1809
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 30: because you guys mentioned it, I feel they played their

1810
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 30: tails off today. Thibodel stepped up and even drew Phillips.

1811
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 30: I mean, he did have a holding against him, but

1812
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 30: he made a sack.

1813
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:47,799
Speaker 10: And I was just wondering.

1814
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 30: I was another another hindsight question for you about the

1815
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 30: two point conversions. I was going to say, we lost

1816
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 30: by three points, but we sacrificed six trying to get

1817
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 30: two point conversions. Does that still sit well with you, guys?

1818
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: Well, well, not six.

1819
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: They tried the extra point on the first one, right,

1820
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: and they missed that one, so so it was four one.

1821
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: They had Slaton right in the hands, which should have

1822
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 2: been converted, it wasn't. So look, it's hard for me

1823
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 2: to say, and I said, like, I don't know if

1824
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 2: they said Gilling out there at halftime to kick and

1825
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 2: they watched them and they were happy, not happy. I

1826
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: don't know how that went. No one was asked that

1827
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 2: over the course of that, you know, postgame, Sam, and

1828
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 2: that we've been able to play for you guys. So

1829
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 2: I just don't know how they felt internally about Gilling

1830
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 2: kicking those and without us, they're seeing how he kicked

1831
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: when he had the opportunity either away from our eyes

1832
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: a practice during the week, if they even had him

1833
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: kicked during practice during the week. I don't know the

1834
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 2: answer to that either. I know he does do some

1835
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: of that to prepare as the backup kicker. How much

1836
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: he does and how much he did it this week,

1837
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 2: I don't know that they weren't asked that. I guess

1838
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 2: that he did do some, And I just jc it's

1839
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 2: hard for us, we're not specialist here and we're out

1840
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 2: there watching him kick it halftime to know exactly how

1841
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: they felt about it.

1842
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's all about executing, right. You know, Gilan

1843
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: had an opportunity today to execute you know, things that

1844
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: he's done in the past. You know, they're not asking

1845
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: him to do something and he hasn't done. He's kicked.

1846
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: He's kicked the ball before, you know, and and he

1847
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to do it, and he didn't convert,

1848
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,879
Speaker 1: he didn't execute, you know, same thing with Slayton. Slayton

1849
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: had had the droppies in the past. You know, He's

1850
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: had had, you know, opportunities to win games and you know,

1851
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: convert second you know, two point conversions, convert third down,

1852
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: fourth downs, you know, and he has has some success,

1853
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: and he has had some drops, you know. So it

1854
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: comes down to executing, you know. And it's not like

1855
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: you know, they was out there overmatched or anything like that.

1856
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: It's just at crucial points of the game, the players

1857
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 1: for the New York Giants failed to execute on plays

1858
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: that were designed for them.

1859
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring something else up here, Frank, which

1860
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 2: I think is interesting. No one's brought this up. Remember,

1861
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 2: Gilan's a lefty kicker. That changes all the mechanics for

1862
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 2: the holder too. And it's not right, not not as much. Yeah,

1863
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: you know, I guess he's on the other side too,

1864
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: You're right, But especially for the holder, he's got to

1865
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 2: hold the ball with a different hand. The mechanics of

1866
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 2: the catcher all different. So I wonder how much confidence

1867
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 2: they have in the hold in that situation, having to

1868
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 2: hold for a left kicker instead of a riding kick.

1869
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 30: Yep, right, But you know, I just wanted to say also,

1870
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 30: you guys also mentioned you could see the talent. The

1871
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 30: talent is there, it's just these guys. You got a

1872
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 30: young secondary. I mean even Carl said, you know, they're

1873
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 30: just leaving too much space in the secondary. They got

1874
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 30: to play a little tighter in the secondary for the

1875
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 30: past coverage. But how do you feel how do you

1876
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 30: feel about Daniel Jones running head first?

1877
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 10: Does that weary you at all?

1878
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: And thanks for the time, guys, No, Frank, thanks for

1879
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 1: the call.

1880
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,560
Speaker 5: That's what Daniel does. I mean, he's always done that.

1881
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: I don't I can't remember how many times JC has

1882
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 2: yelled on the postgame show slide Daniel, slide or all

1883
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: we're watching the game. That's just the way Daniel Jones plays.

1884
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 2: He's going to try to get that extra yarder too.

1885
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 2: He's going to try to get that first down, whether

1886
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 2: we like it or not, whether the coaching staff likes

1887
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 2: it or not, That's what DJ is.

1888
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 18: Going to do.

1889
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: Listen, one thing that I know about Daniel Jones He

1890
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: is a tough mofo. He is tough bro. Even last week,

1891
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: when you know everybody knows he didn't play well. But

1892
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: what I seen from him, I seen him sitting in

1893
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: the pocket when a defender is about to hit him

1894
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: in his chest, and he threw a pass. Was it

1895
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: a great pass? Probably not, But that shows that he's

1896
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: a tough guy. You know, he's a tough individual. I

1897
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 1: think he has to be a lot smarter in protecting

1898
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: himself because the defenders and the other team are not

1899
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: going to protect you. They're gonna hit you as hard

1900
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: as they possibly can every single time you run a football.

1901
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 2: And by the way, that applies to Jaye and Daniels too.

1902
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely did not slide at all in Week one. Did

1903
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 2: not slide at all on this game either. Drew Phillis

1904
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 2: put a nice helmet right on his ribcage, which I'm

1905
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: sure is going to be black and blue when he

1906
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 2: wakes up in the morning.

1907
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 5: Let's go to lou In, New Jersey.

1908
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: He's up next.

1909
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 10: Hey lou Hey, how you doing.

1910
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 3: Guys?

1911
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 12: A long time fans played, I could get to it today.

1912
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 12: While I talked about the defense a little, they gave

1913
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 12: up what four hundred yards today last week quite a bit.

1914
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 12: And it's a typical Giants game opportunities, whether it's the

1915
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 12: leaku missing the ball at the end, you know, to

1916
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 12: drop the fumble in the first quarter. So when do

1917
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 12: you think these guys are going to get it together?

1918
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 12: Because they're starting out zero and two again, so at

1919
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 12: some point they really need to get their stuff together.

1920
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: No, Lou you're right now. You are one hundred percent right.

1921
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 2: And we talked about heading into the season with such

1922
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 2: a young secondary. The Giants have the youngest secondary in football.

1923
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 2: Dory Jackson might swing those numbers back a little bit

1924
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: since they brought him back.

1925
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 5: But the guys they're playing a lot of snaps.

1926
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 2: A lot of them are first and second year players,

1927
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 2: whether it's Drew Phillips, Tyler Nubin or Taybanks and Cordell

1928
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 2: Flat's a third year guy, right, So these guys don't

1929
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: have a lot of experience. It's a new defense that

1930
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 2: requires a lot of communication. It's a lot different than

1931
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: what they've played the last couple of years. They were

1932
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 2: going to be issues earlier in the year. We knew this,

1933
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 2: but you hope that the rush defense and the red

1934
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 2: zone defense would cover some of those up. Last week,

1935
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 2: the red zone defense failed miserably. This week, it succeeded

1936
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: the run defense in both weeks as needs to be better.

1937
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 2: So right now, you're right, the defense has not been

1938
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,799
Speaker 2: where it needs to be. You hope, as the Jacon

1939
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 2: talk about it. You've been in systems where you have

1940
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 2: a new defensive coordinator. How long does it take to

1941
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 2: really absorb that defense where you're flying around without thinking

1942
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 2: when you're in a new defense for the first time.

1943
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 1: Man, it might take a month, two months.

1944
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 3: You know.

1945
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 1: I've played for Spagnola several years, right here in New

1946
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: York for three years and then one year in New Orleans.

1947
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: My first year in New York in twenty fifteen, we

1948
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 1: were horrible on defense. Statistically wise, we gave up I think,

1949
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, we gave up the most yards

1950
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: in the league that year, and then the next year

1951
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: we were one of the most dominant defenses in the league.

1952
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes it took a year. Basically, it took a whole season,

1953
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: a lot of missed opportunities, a lot of giant fense.

1954
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 5: Don't want to hear that, Jase, right what I'm.

1955
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: Saying, it happens, But what I want to see is improvement,

1956
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: and you look at the offensive side of the ball.

1957
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: I think we took a step forward and the Giants

1958
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: improving on offense. The Giants and improve from the quarterback position.

1959
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,799
Speaker 1: Dame Jones did look better, he looked more comfortable now. Defensively,

1960
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: he took a step back. We could all agree with that.

1961
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: We all saw what was put on film today. The

1962
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: Commanders kind of moved the ball at ease, even though

1963
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: they created a lot of difficulties for themselves. Penalties, holding calls,

1964
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, things that they did to kind of stumble

1965
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: their drives and that's what kind of held them up

1966
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 1: in the red zone. On top of the Giants having

1967
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, real tight defense down there. But they took

1968
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: a step back. You know, I think the guys on

1969
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: defense are very accountable. I think they're high character guys

1970
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: and they're big time players like Bobbio, ca Caake and

1971
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 1: Dexa Lawrence. You're not gonna blank out Dexa Lawrence.

1972
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 3: Bro.

1973
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a monster game coming up, hopefully is

1974
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: this week against the Browns. Because Dexah Lawrence. When the

1975
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 1: Giants come to you know, they trained over to Washington

1976
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: this week, and they're gonna probably fly over to Cleveland

1977
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: next week, and Dexa Lawrence is gonna step off the

1978
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,560
Speaker 1: plane first because he is that type of guy, and

1979
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: he is the guy that only steps up the first

1980
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: He's the first person that touches that the first player,

1981
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: which is the guy that has the ball in front

1982
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: of the quarterback. The Dexa Lawrence will show up, the

1983
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: Bobbiokaac will show up. Let's hope they could play complimentary football,

1984
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 1: which is something that the Giants haven't done in the

1985
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: last two seasons. These two games and the whole season

1986
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: last year, they just really couldn't find out how to

1987
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: do it. Once they figured out out, now we're gonna

1988
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 1: start seeing some good football being played by the Giants.

1989
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: Let's go to Ambrose in Westwood.

1990
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 2: He's up next, So it's up ambroseh what's up?

1991
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 30: Great?

1992
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 24: Great commentary is always great calls too. I was just

1993
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 24: thinking at first, was originally in a call about Hyatt,

1994
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 24: and you know, it's not like you would have been

1995
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 24: a huge factor in this game, but before that, this

1996
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 24: kind of reminds me of the opposite of what we

1997
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 24: should have done last year's Jets game, where we you know,

1998
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 24: decided to, you know, throw out a hobbled gano in

1999
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 24: terrible conditions when Barkley was getting four yards a clip

2000
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 24: on every play at that point, you know, it felt

2001
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 24: almost like we did the like he did the opposite

2002
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 24: of what we should have done. And my little thing

2003
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,560
Speaker 24: about Hyatt, I mean, I personally just like, I just

2004
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 24: really like the guy. And I think he's always wide open.

2005
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 24: I watched a lot of film and he's a baller.

2006
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 24: I'm curious why you think he's not seeing the field.

2007
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jalen Hyatt and Ambrose, thanks for the call.

2008
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 2: He had twelve offensive snaps in this game, so not

2009
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 2: a ton just to give you this snapcounts.

2010
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 5: This is Pro Football Focus is tracking. The official NFL.

2011
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: Numbers will come out tomorrow when the game books will

2012
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,799
Speaker 2: get updated. But twelve snaps according to PFF for Jalen Hyatt,

2013
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:36,600
Speaker 2: Darius Slayton forty nine, won the Robinson thirty five, and

2014
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 2: a league neighbors no shock top all receivers with fifty.

2015
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 2: So again, I think it's pretty clear right now that

2016
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 2: Hyatt's the fourth receiver based on the snapcounts in Week one.

2017
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,799
Speaker 2: In Week two, we know Daniel Jones has a chemistry

2018
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: with Darius Slain, which they like. I think they see

2019
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 2: those two guys as kind of as your interchangeable speed

2020
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 2: receiver outside and jac early on. It's pretty obvious that

2021
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 2: right now they have more confidence in Slaton than they

2022
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 2: do in Hiatt to fill that role across some neighbors

2023
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 2: with Robinson obviously being in the slot.

2024
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough because you know, when the season started

2025
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 1: there was a slash between Slayton and Hyatt for that

2026
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: third wide receiver. And Slayton he is the veteran. He

2027
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: is the guy that is the most proven in the

2028
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 1: entire receiver room, including neighbors. You know, so there's a

2029
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: level of uh, you know trust there and you know,

2030
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: I look, I love high I think he's tremendous. I

2031
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: think he'll open up the playbook, open up the field.

2032
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 1: And you know, as a defender, you know, if you

2033
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: have a guy like Hide on one side and neighbors

2034
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: like the other side, and you know, that's that creates

2035
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: some problems for the defensive back unit, you know. But

2036
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 1: Slayton is kind of that same type of player. You know,

2037
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 1: he's a deep threat, you know, but he has that

2038
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: veteran leadership and he also has that veteran savvy uh

2039
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: you know that you know, has him getting open and

2040
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: you know, catching balls down the field. And he's done

2041
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 1: it his entire career. So I would love to see

2042
01:28:56,600 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: Hyatt get more plays. But for a fourth receiver, you know,

2043
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: only playing you know, twelve snaps and not getting a target,

2044
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,440
Speaker 1: that's not too far from reality around the NFL.

2045
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 2: No question about it. Back to the phones, Let's go

2046
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 2: to Cliff in Manhattan. He's up next, Ty Cliff.

2047
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, uh, I think this offense deserves to have

2048
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 13: more chances to have the ball.

2049
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 1: I mean today certainly, Oh man, I mean.

2050
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 13: You were, you were really, especially you John. We're really

2051
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 13: very confident about an improved offense and I don't think

2052
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 13: we saw any reason not to believe in that. And

2053
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 13: I mean this touch this, this offense can score four

2054
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 13: touchdowns a game. They might not average that much, which

2055
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 13: would put them at the top of the league, right,

2056
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 13: but but they they they really have some capability there.

2057
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 13: And that's without with only you know, without without spreading

2058
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 13: the ball around.

2059
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 2: Uh yet, real quick, if you can score three touchdowns

2060
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 2: a game on offense, and you're usually gonna get a

2061
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 2: field goal too, you're gonna feel pretty good about your

2062
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 2: offense during the year. So and the fact that they

2063
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 2: did it on only seven possessions, yeah, I think you

2064
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 2: feel like I had so people tweeting mules there.

2065
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 5: You know, Jones thre f for a hundred two hundred yards.

2066
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 1: This wasn't even a good game.

2067
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 5: Why are they saying good things about him?

2068
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 2: Guys ate seven possessions, They only threw the ball twenty

2069
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 2: eight times, all right, It's not like he was missing

2070
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 2: open receivers in this game, so you know there was

2071
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 2: to your point, Cliff, they were just limited opportunities. And

2072
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 2: even though again credit the defense in the red zone

2073
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 2: all great, no touchdowns, twenty one points.

2074
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:21,639
Speaker 1: Is not a lot.

2075
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 5: Thirty eight minutes time of possession.

2076
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, like, you got to give your

2077
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 2: offense more opportunities if it is not a good game

2078
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 2: for the defense. If you walk away from the game

2079
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 2: and the other team has not punted the ball once

2080
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 2: and they have not turned the ball over once, that

2081
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 2: means you have let them score on every single possession.

2082
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 5: That is not a good defensive game, right right.

2083
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 13: Well, another thing about the offense. Before I ask about

2084
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 13: the defense, I didn't know singletary. Was that good making

2085
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 13: people miss in the second level?

2086
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 1: Pretty good?

2087
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 3: Right?

2088
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2089
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 13: Oh yeah. I mean the the only difference between him

2090
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 13: and the other guy so far is the breakaway speed,

2091
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 13: which I'm he really had it going as far as

2092
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 13: I'm concerned, ninety five yards counts as one hundred yard game,

2093
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 13: you know. But on defense, you know, I saw Chapman's

2094
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:17,839
Speaker 13: number ninety four. I didn't see Davidson or Jordan Riley.

2095
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 13: I don't know if they played. My question is is

2096
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 13: it possible that to do better against the run, they

2097
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 13: need something more on the first level. I know that

2098
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 13: Shane Bowen must have been asked about what he wanted

2099
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 13: from the draft and free agency, and what he got

2100
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 13: was some really a big increase in talent. Even though

2101
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 13: everybody says the back end is young, the true Phillips

2102
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 13: looks really good. And Tyler Newban well, I don't know

2103
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 13: what he was doing if he had that many snaps,

2104
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 13: But I mean, do they have at some point maybe

2105
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 13: during the week. Does Shane Bowen have a very different

2106
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,560
Speaker 13: group of personnel now than he did when he was

2107
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 13: you know, like a world beater stopping the run? I mean,

2108
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 13: it's football, one on one to stop the run.

2109
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 24: Man.

2110
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 13: Everybody knows that.

2111
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

2112
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 5: Clippreciate the call, graduation.

2113
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: You know, a cliff good call. Look the Giants and

2114
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 1: I said it one play where it was like a

2115
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: split zone that they ran. Bobbyo Carac looked like he

2116
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 1: hit the wrong hole, but he did not. When they

2117
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 1: showed the other view, Tyler Nuban, he was unblocked, nowhere

2118
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 1: to be found. But he's young. He's a safety, you know,

2119
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,560
Speaker 1: and safety they're name safety for a reason. They're the

2120
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 1: safety valve, right And when when teams have split action

2121
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 1: in the backfield, that creates single gaps for everybody up.

2122
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 5: Front, explained the fans what split actually means.

2123
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 1: So if there's two backs in the backfield and if

2124
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: they go the same way, that's full flow. But if

2125
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 1: they go opposite direction, that creates an extra gap. And

2126
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: it basically is a single gap offense where the defense

2127
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,600
Speaker 1: has to have guys accountable in every single gap. And

2128
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: there's a couple of times that they did that and

2129
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 1: the safeties were either a little or a little out

2130
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: of position, and you can't do that in the NFL.

2131
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: That's why when people say the speed of the NFL,

2132
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 1: it's not always about how fast the players are. It's

2133
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 1: how fast things happen.

2134
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 3: Right.

2135
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 1: Those running backs find those holes immediately, they see the

2136
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 1: flow of the linebackers and they're like, oh, that's a

2137
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: whole right there, and they're there before you can even blink.

2138
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: And if you take a false step in the wrong direction.

2139
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: My daughter's here and I talk about her feet all

2140
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 1: the time, because a false step in the wrong direction

2141
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL, that's eight yards.

2142
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 2: She's a basketball player, just right, right, feet, But feet,

2143
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 2: they're so important, you know.

2144
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,799
Speaker 1: Having your eyes in the right place, it's so important.

2145
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: And a lot of rookies make those mistakes, having their

2146
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: eyes in the wrong place, you know, seeing too much,

2147
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:47,560
Speaker 1: seem too little, you know, And that will improve, That

2148
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 1: will improve. And Tyler Newman is a guy that the

2149
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: Giants can rely on. He's young, but you have to

2150
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: expect a young rookie to make mistakes. And that's what

2151
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: I saw. I didn't watch the All twenty two. Again,

2152
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: I'm not going to deflect and say I gotta wait

2153
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 1: to watch the field like some guys do. But that's

2154
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 1: what I saw from you know, the little replays that

2155
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 1: we get here on the Buffa in the studio WFA.

2156
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: N Jade was a Neighbors catchaway for having the bar

2157
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 2: live for every pregame show for the rest of the year.

2158
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:11,640
Speaker 1: If they would have won this.

2159
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:16,799
Speaker 2: Game, right, just saying snap cowns real quick, Dexter Lawrence

2160
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 2: on the defense and one again, these are unofficial.

2161
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 5: This is what we have in front of us right now.

2162
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,919
Speaker 2: Fifty nine for him, fifty one for Nacho only sixteen

2163
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 2: for Elijah Chapman in this game, eleven for DJ Davidson

2164
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 2: and three for Jordan Riley, so more concentrated in the

2165
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 2: two starters. The Giants were on the field for seventy

2166
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 2: two snaps as a defense in this game.

2167
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:37,799
Speaker 5: Jac that's a lot, right, somebody two.

2168
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean nowadays, not really now with this fast, fast

2169
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 1: pace of the offense, with this offense that they have,

2170
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, kind of moving the ball really quickly, getting

2171
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: up you know, it's kind of no huddle, you know

2172
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like they're just moving the ball, you know,

2173
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 1: getting the ball Downfieldnking and Dunkin. Remember, you know, they

2174
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 1: they kept it pretty fairly simple for Daniels. They had

2175
01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: a lot of kind of on the line of scrimmage

2176
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 1: throws to the running backs and to the receivers, screen

2177
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 1: and round a lot of scrimmage, and those plays happened

2178
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 1: really quick, and if it's completed, the next play is

2179
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 1: happening pretty fast, and you know, things get added up.

2180
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,679
Speaker 1: But the Giants couldn't force them to punt the ball,

2181
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 1: so the game the game got a little bit longer

2182
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 1: on their side, so their drives were longer, you know,

2183
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 1: But seventy two plays, I don't think that's too far

2184
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 1: from the average.

2185
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 5: All right, let's go to Sergio and Brooklyn.

2186
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: He's up next. Let's up search.

2187
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 11: Yes, Hio, how are you? I watched every single minute

2188
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 11: of the game, and my takeaway question I haven't heard

2189
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 11: it from anybody, is this, how did the Giants allow

2190
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 11: seven times Washington to get into the red zone? That

2191
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 11: speaks of something with defense that needs to be corrected.

2192
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 11: Seven times they got into the end zone. Seven times

2193
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 11: Washington shot themselves in a ford a couple of times, penalties, penalttendees,

2194
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 11: seven seven field goals. Any other team, a real NFL team,

2195
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 11: excuse me, I'm not trying to sound funny with that,

2196
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 11: but any other teams that if they allow seven time

2197
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 11: again and the other team to get it to the

2198
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 11: red Joe, that's I guaranteed forty nine points. What will

2199
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 11: be done to correct it? And will the Bows address

2200
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:10,679
Speaker 11: this specific question?

2201
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 5: Thank you, no, sirge I appreciate the call.

2202
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 2: And look, if you've been listening to us, we've been

2203
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 2: talking about the defense the whole postgame show. Brian Dable

2204
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:20,679
Speaker 2: was not asked about it by the media.

2205
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,719
Speaker 5: Not his fault. I'm sure that's a big concern he has.

2206
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,719
Speaker 2: Because you're right, even though they allowed only seven fieldals

2207
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 2: in the game twenty one points, we talked about the

2208
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 2: time of possession offense only at seven times with the

2209
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 2: ball in this game, which is certainly not enough. We've

2210
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: seen games where teams have had seven possessions and a

2211
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 2: half JC let alone a game.

2212
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 1: Yep. So that comes down to the defense.

2213
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 2: This to me, as much as you have you know,

2214
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 2: the turnover by Singletary, the drop by Neighbors, and the

2215
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 2: stuff in the kicking game. If I'm gonna point to

2216
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 2: something in this game for why the Giants loss, it's

2217
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 2: this One's on the defense.

2218
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 1: To me, Yeah, I think they got it, you know,

2219
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 1: I think and they are I think.

2220
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:55,600
Speaker 10: You know.

2221
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,560
Speaker 1: You heard from Bobby Ocake right after the game. We

2222
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 1: had his audio, and it sounds like he's taking full

2223
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: accountability for, you know, not only the total yards that

2224
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 1: they gave up, but specifically the rushing yards that they

2225
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: gave up. Yes, Brian Robinson's a big, strong running back,

2226
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 1: but when you're when you're you know, cutting runs back

2227
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: and nobody's there for five yards, you know, that's not good.

2228
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 1: You know, that's basically the front seven, including that safety

2229
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 1: that's down in whatever way it is.

2230
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,560
Speaker 5: Jac two hundred yards rushing is not acceptable.

2231
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 1: That's totally unacceptable, you know, And.

2232
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 5: A lot of that was traditional run game.

2233
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't Jaden like Jayea Daniels had some scramble yards,

2234
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 2: but Robinson and Eckler almost had two hundred.

2235
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,759
Speaker 1: Two yep over eight yards almost eight yards of carry

2236
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 1: n Robinson and he's a big back who's not really

2237
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: that fast, you know, like guys like Sae Kwan. You know,

2238
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 1: he'll have you know, twelve Carris one hundred yards, but

2239
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 1: he'll break a seventy yard.

2240
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 5: Or twenty five for one seventy one For Robinson and Neckler.

2241
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's totally unacceptable, you know. And look, we talked

2242
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 1: about Shane Bowen defense in the past.

2243
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 5: That by the way is just under seven yards per carry, right.

2244
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 1: Which is not good at all, you know, and theients

2245
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:01,679
Speaker 1: have to do a better job on first and second

2246
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: down to create you know, bigger third downs, and then

2247
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: on third down you've got to get the field. They

2248
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 1: created how many third and literally they had? I saw

2249
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 1: a third and thirteen at least twice literally third and thirteen,

2250
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 1: and they converted both of those. They converted both of

2251
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 1: those third and thirteens. The Giants have to figure out

2252
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 1: a way when they create those situations where it's third

2253
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,639
Speaker 1: and thirteen, how to win fifty percent on third down?

2254
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 1: Giving up on defense is horrible?

2255
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 2: All right, Jase, I'm gonna go through this real quick.

2256
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go through the play by a play.

2257
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure i'm gonna miss stuff here, but bear with me. Okay,

2258
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,919
Speaker 2: Third and nine, first drive incomplete, the zach Ertz defensive

2259
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 2: holding penalty and Pinnock first down rough call.

2260
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: That's a conversion.

2261
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 2: I would say, close third and one past the Diamie

2262
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 2: Brown five yards first down, third and ten completion for

2263
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 2: nine yards gets to a fourth and one.

2264
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,879
Speaker 5: They convert the fourth and one. Well, that's not a conversion.

2265
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 5: It's still not great.

2266
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 1: Third and fourteen.

2267
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,640
Speaker 2: They allow a thirteen yard run on the play to

2268
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 2: a fourth and one the command this could have bea

2269
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 2: converted that they had a false start and that made

2270
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 2: them kick the field, but again got helped for those

2271
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 2: red zone stops. That's not you know, fourth and one

2272
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 2: at the four the Commanders were gonna go for that

2273
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 2: and try to convert it.

2274
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 1: They couldn't get it.

2275
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:15,599
Speaker 2: Next drive for Washington, third and four conversion, twenty one

2276
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 2: yard gain, third and one conversion, ten yard gain, third

2277
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 2: and six.

2278
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 5: Daniel gets sacked for a seven yard loss.

2279
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,679
Speaker 2: Next drive, third and thirteen, there's one of them, Jaydeen

2280
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 2: Daniel scramble fourteen yards first down. Same drive, third and thirteen,

2281
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,679
Speaker 2: that little passed over the middle to Austin Eckler sixteen

2282
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 2: yards first down, and then they get a stop on

2283
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:38,560
Speaker 2: a third and four when Eckler runs it.

2284
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 1: For no game.

2285
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 2: You cannot have a drive where you let them convert two.

2286
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 2: Third and thirteen's right on one drive and that turns

2287
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 2: in to one of those seven field goals.

2288
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 1: You just can't have it.

2289
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 2: You know, those are third and longs. Last week the

2290
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 2: Commanders they did not convert one third down of six

2291
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 2: yards or more zero the whole week. Those are two

2292
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 2: thirteen yard ones right there, first drive, second half, third

2293
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 2: and eight, twenty yard pass the zach Ertz first down,

2294
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 2: third and eight they get to stop third and one

2295
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 2: conversion a third and eleven failure. The bottom line here, jac,

2296
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 2: You're right as bad as the run game was when

2297
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 2: they did get him in good third and long situations,

2298
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 2: way too many conversions for the Commanders over the course

2299
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 2: of the skame.

2300
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 1: Well, one of the last third downs is when Burns

2301
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:24,560
Speaker 1: had a sack and then I was negated by the

2302
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 1: Phillips hold. So I think you left that one off

2303
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 1: because you kind of got tired of it. I look

2304
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 1: like I did it. I got tired of going through it.

2305
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie idea.

2306
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the third and five on the Commander's

2307
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 2: next to last drive. It was eighteen to fifteen Giants.

2308
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 2: It was third and five on their own forty five

2309
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 2: yard line. Burns got a sack and they got Drew Phillips,

2310
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 2: who a defensive holding penalty first down.

2311
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about, you know, every single game,

2312
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,720
Speaker 1: there's three to five plays that determine, you know, the

2313
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: outcome of the game. That was one of them for

2314
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 1: sure on third down. You know, the bend but don't break.

2315
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 1: Defense was holding up until that third down.

2316
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 30: And that was it.

2317
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 5: I thought that was also a kind of a bang

2318
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 5: bang type of thing.

2319
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was for sure. But again

2320
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of scenario of today's game with the defense, right.

2321
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 1: It was close. You know, penalties possibly, yes, but it

2322
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 1: was ultimately comes down to executing getting off the field

2323
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 1: on third downs and that's something that the Giants failed

2324
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 1: to do seven times out of fourteen. Today.

2325
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 2: Final call the show, and you guys have been great,

2326
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 2: by the way on the post game with the calls.

2327
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,440
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys. Let's go to Matt in Connecticut.

2328
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 2: He'll wrap us up on the phone today. Matt, what's

2329
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 2: going on? You're on Giants Extra Point with John Schmelc

2330
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 2: and JOHNA think you see us?

2331
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:36,640
Speaker 31: Hey, guys, what's go on?

2332
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 1: What's up? Man?

2333
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:40,600
Speaker 31: No, just a couple of things I wanted to I

2334
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 31: want to just touch on with the Giants. I think

2335
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 31: I heard you guys said the last segment there with

2336
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 31: the defense, but I was kind of trying to well,

2337
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 31: I feel like I was disagreeing with as far as

2338
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 31: what they let up last week versus this week. You know,

2339
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 31: last week they had one sack, this week had the five.

2340
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 31: And then if you follow up what the Vikings, you

2341
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 31: know what they did today? We're San Frian you know,

2342
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 31: they shut San Fran down.

2343
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 3: You know, took the games.

2344
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 2: Matt, by the way, I was going to bring that

2345
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,799
Speaker 2: up in the next segment and then you can continue.

2346
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 2: It's a great point. You know a lot of people thought, oh,

2347
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 2: what a terrible loss of home to the Vikings last week.

2348
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 2: Do we have to look at that loss a little

2349
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 2: bit differently now, given that they basically whooped San Francisco today.

2350
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 1: They whooped them.

2351
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,760
Speaker 31: Yeah, right, And I think I heard you say. I

2352
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 31: just jotted it down. I thought you said the Giants

2353
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 31: had thirty eight minutes with the ball.

2354
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: No, no, no, the the Commanders had thirty eight minutes

2355
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:39,800
Speaker 1: with the balls.

2356
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 2: I got and and the Giants just had twenty two

2357
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 2: minutes with the ball and only seven possessions the whole game.

2358
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,600
Speaker 31: Yep, okay, that was that was on me. That's and

2359
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 31: then I want to touch base real quick on just

2360
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 31: on the kicking situation there. Yes, I heard you, guys,

2361
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 31: you know you brought up a great point on the

2362
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 31: switching over to a lefty kicking. I didn't see what

2363
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 31: they did, honestly, I missed that first extra point they

2364
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 31: went with that they missed. But isn't he the holder

2365
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 31: when what's his name?

2366
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2367
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, was making I know, No, Matt, you make a

2368
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 2: good point because I only brought up the fact that

2369
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 2: it was a lefty and I mentioned Drew locked, But

2370
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 2: I did not bring up a point that you lost

2371
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 2: that normally the holder. Dude, I should have said that, Matt.

2372
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 2: You make a great point. So you not only have

2373
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 2: a lefty kicker, you have the backup holder on top

2374
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 2: of that. Matt, that is an excellent, excellent point.

2375
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,719
Speaker 1: How many reps you think Drew Locke has taken at holder?

2376
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 2: I wonder if he held. I wonder if he held

2377
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 2: for Seattle last year behind Geno.

2378
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 1: I don't.

2379
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 5: I don't know the answer to that. I'm not even

2380
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 5: sure I know how to look that up.

2381
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 12: To be honest with you, I think they improved.

2382
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 31: Like last week was terrible to watch. I was just

2383
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 31: so you know, but this week I think Jones definitely

2384
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 31: stepped up big time. You know, I know he missed

2385
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 31: a lot of plays. The neighbors missed that last fourth

2386
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 31: down that was that was a bad one. But but

2387
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 31: I thought he played a lot better. You know, he's

2388
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 31: like you said, no he did. I don't got your

2389
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 31: names right right off the rip. This is my first

2390
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 31: time calling in.

2391
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 1: But John and John, Matt, it's easy.

2392
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:13,559
Speaker 5: You got two John's here, bro, very simple.

2393
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 31: The linebacker.

2394
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 5: There we go, there we go that.

2395
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:20,600
Speaker 31: You know, this is his second game back from his

2396
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,600
Speaker 31: you know, injury, and what other quarterbacks are doing, what

2397
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:25,560
Speaker 31: they're doing, you know, so I think he made a

2398
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 31: big improvement for sure.

2399
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 8: Nothing.

2400
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 31: I was scared last week.

2401
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 1: Matt, absolutely and and and good call.

2402
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 2: Now the problem is before we get to break here, JC,

2403
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 2: you can talk about all this great stuff, all they improve,

2404
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:39,440
Speaker 2: that's fantastic.

2405
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 5: The problem is that you're owning two downs.

2406
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And I'll give you the math. It's not great.

2407
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety, how many teams do you think I've

2408
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 2: made the playoffs that started own three?

2409
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:53,719
Speaker 1: I started owning three.

2410
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 3: Yep.

2411
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: How many teams? Two? Four? Okay, I knew it was

2412
01:44:58,320 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 1: a low ball on low.

2413
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 5: Thirty four years.

2414
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,719
Speaker 1: If my math is correct, it's insane. Four teams insane.

2415
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 1: But and then also specifically for the Giants, when you

2416
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 1: looked at this rat excuse me, this schedule, and you

2417
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 1: broke it up in quarters, right, and you was like, okay,

2418
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 1: the first quarter it you know, the second two games

2419
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 1: of the first quarter, which is what we're in right now,

2420
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 1: is Cleveland and the Cowboys. Right, Cleveland was a great

2421
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 1: team last year. There was a team that had to

2422
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 1: rest the blueprint to San Francisco. They were the ones

2423
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: that throne in San Francisco. And and you know, and

2424
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 1: they won today they beat the Jaguars. You know, so

2425
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 1: this is a good team, you know last year or

2426
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 1: a great team you know. Uh. And you were looking

2427
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 1: at the first two like all right, these are you know,

2428
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: kind of winnable games at least you want to get

2429
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 1: to You better get one, right, You've got to get

2430
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 1: at least one of these, you know, and after that

2431
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 1: it doesn't get any easier.

2432
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 15: You know.

2433
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 1: The Eagles are good. The Cowboys are good, you know.

2434
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 1: They I'm Seattle the later game the later day today

2435
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: against the same but Pittsburgh is in there.

2436
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 3: You know.

2437
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 1: Look, every week is a every week is a winnable game,

2438
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 1: you know. But like these first two weeks, especially the Commanders,

2439
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 1: this was the game on the schedule was like, all right,

2440
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 1: no matter what happens Week one, the Giants have to

2441
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: figure out a way to win this game because you know,

2442
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 1: the rest of the road is, you know, a road

2443
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 1: less traveled. It's a difficult road. First of all, the

2444
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: NFL is very difficult. And I've heard this ever since

2445
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 1: I got into the NFL, and I didn't really know

2446
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 1: what it means. It's so hard to win a game

2447
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 1: in the league. I didn't really know what that meant

2448
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 1: until I started playing, and I'm playing for Tampa and

2449
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 1: we're all in seven it started season, like, it's very difficult.

2450
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:35,600
Speaker 1: A lot of different things that you have to do

2451
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:39,639
Speaker 1: to win a game, being situationally aware at all times,

2452
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 1: no matter what. Whether it's injuries, whether it's situational field position,

2453
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 1: whether it's weather, you know, like all of those things

2454
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 1: play factors into these tremendous games that we watch every

2455
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 1: single Sunday, Thursday, Monday, Friday, Brazil like wherever it is,

2456
01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:00,120
Speaker 1: you know, And the Giants have to figure out it

2457
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 1: comes down to playing complimentary football because Giants offense may

2458
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 1: not be efficient one week, the defense has to step up.

2459
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 1: Giants defense may not be you know, slow, this offense down,

2460
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 1: whoever they're playing, the offense has to step up. Special

2461
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 1: teams has to be there every week, and we cannot

2462
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 1: consistently see the Giants not figuring out how to do that.

2463
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,559
Speaker 1: Whether it's allowing Austin Eckler to break a ninety ninety

2464
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 1: yard kick and getting your kick or hurt, or you

2465
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:26,759
Speaker 1: get an extra point block last year Week one, getting

2466
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 1: your left tackle hurt. The Giants have to figure out

2467
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 1: how to play complimentary football. It's not with just Daniel Jones.

2468
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 1: It's with every single person on that active roster, including

2469
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 1: the coaches one hundred percent.

2470
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 2: And now, wins and losses, you know they always matter,

2471
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 2: but you can't just say, hell, we played better what

2472
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 2: we lost. Well, Eventually you're going to lose too many

2473
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 2: games and the season becomes in jeopardy. So got to

2474
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 2: turn around next week and we'll talk about the opponent

2475
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 2: next week, the Cleveland Browns. Will we come back after

2476
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 2: this the Giants fall of the command? There is twenty

2477
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 2: one eighteen right here on Giants Extra Point. We'll wrap

2478
01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 2: things up when we return.

2479
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:02,799
Speaker 4: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants

2480
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:03,839
Speaker 4: Radio Network.

2481
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:06,759
Speaker 5: Back here on Giants Extra point Giants falls to the command.

2482
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:07,839
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2483
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:10,759
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2484
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2485
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2486
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:18,839
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2487
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:22,280
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2488
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 2: Brian Burns was in the locker room after the game,

2489
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 2: only about a minute long. Let's hear from Burns, who

2490
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 2: did have his first career sack for the Giants, but

2491
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:31,799
Speaker 2: it got taken off the board by that defensive holding penalty.

2492
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 32: Just because of the way the game go His offense

2493
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 32: is very up tempo. It's a lot of plays, a

2494
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 32: lot of perimeter plays. He tries to get the ball

2495
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 32: out to his playmakers. He doesn't really it wasn't really

2496
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 32: much of a drop back type of game. It was

2497
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 32: get the ball out and get the ball in his

2498
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 32: playmaker hands and let them kind of, you know, run around.

2499
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 32: So yeah, just the way his offense is is is

2500
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:54,640
Speaker 32: a lot of plays. But like I said before, we

2501
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 32: got somebody by the throat. As a defense, we kind

2502
01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 32: of got to snap the neck off and not let

2503
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 32: him get off the hull teams like this is last

2504
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 32: week too.

2505
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:03,720
Speaker 12: I mean, Sam, man this they're trying to get the

2506
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:05,880
Speaker 12: ball out quick on you guys, and they are getting

2507
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 12: the ball out quick?

2508
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 1: How is the defensive line?

2509
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 18: Can you still be this quarterback?

2510
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:13,640
Speaker 32: Whether getting your hands up, you know, just getting his

2511
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 32: window just I don't know, just cutting them off make

2512
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 32: them uncomfortable, right man, I'm trying, And.

2513
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:21,680
Speaker 3: I mean that's just gonna be.

2514
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 32: That's gonna be a lot of a lot of the NFL,

2515
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 32: and that's a lot of how team's gonna play us

2516
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 32: just because of you.

2517
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 1: Know, what we have up front.

2518
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 2: I might guess j C is snapping and that comment

2519
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:31,559
Speaker 2: has to do with letting them off houck on those

2520
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 2: started lungs.

2521
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely exactly what we were talking. Listen. They're frustrated.

2522
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,639
Speaker 1: They are when you're out there like that. You're sitting

2523
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 1: there like, man, why can't we get off the fees?

2524
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 2: And is there's something prideful to about allowing that many

2525
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:45,680
Speaker 2: games in the run. I imagine if you're playing up

2526
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 2: front you give up two in your rushing yards, that

2527
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 2: probably gets you somewhere deep.

2528
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 3: No.

2529
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,599
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, like when you when you go back to work.

2530
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 1: Whenever it is they're back in there, there's gonna be

2531
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 1: something on the board.

2532
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 16: Uh.

2533
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 19: You know.

2534
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes I had a crazy defensive coordinator in Greg Williams.

2535
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:02,559
Speaker 1: He to call us soft these kind of crazy stuff. Yes,

2536
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 1: there was there was some there's something you know, almost

2537
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 1: debilitating giving up that much rushing yards, you know, And

2538
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:16,600
Speaker 1: and the Giants need to respond from that because the

2539
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns are already looking at that stat thing like, oh,

2540
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to run the ball down their throats,

2541
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 1: you know. And and if a team can run the

2542
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 1: ball in you efficiently, the quarterback doesn't even have to

2543
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 1: play that well, you know, because they don't have to

2544
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 1: throw the ball. If you're running the ball, you're creating

2545
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, very manageable third downs because you're running the

2546
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 1: ball so officially in first and second. So the Giants

2547
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 1: have to figure that out or it's gonna look like this,

2548
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 1: you know. And Giants offense took a step forward. I'm

2549
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:46,519
Speaker 1: looking for them to take another step forward, and I'm

2550
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:48,880
Speaker 1: looking for the defense to actually go ahead and you know,

2551
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:51,559
Speaker 1: drop their stuff and go ahead and stop the run.

2552
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 5: All right, let's look at next week's opponent, the Cleveland Browns.

2553
01:50:56,640 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 2: They defeated the Jacksonville Jaguar today eighteen to thirteen. They

2554
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:06,840
Speaker 2: held Trevor Lawrence is just fourteen of thirty passing for

2555
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty yards.

2556
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 5: Frankly, even though they got blown.

2557
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 2: Up by the Cabals a week before, Dak Prescott did

2558
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 2: not through for two hundred yards in that game either

2559
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 2: on week number one, So JC they have a good defense.

2560
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 2: This is probably the toughest g defense the Giants will

2561
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 2: have face us far this year, though we'll see what

2562
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 2: the vikings that end up being. Sean Watson, on the

2563
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 2: other hand, has struggled this year, just twenty two or

2564
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 2: thirty four for one hundred and eighty six yards today.

2565
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,799
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb, obviously you're not there, Jerome Ford, Donta Foreman,

2566
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:37,639
Speaker 2: or the two running backs that are kind of taking

2567
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 2: most of the snaps for them. To me, this feels

2568
01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 2: like a very low scoring, scratching, crow claw type of

2569
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 2: game for the Giants next week against the Browns.

2570
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking at Cleveland. Look, I'm looking at their numbers

2571
01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 1: right now. They only had three hundred total yards, you know,

2572
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 1: but they did have one hundred and twenty five yards

2573
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 1: on the ground. This is a rushing team. You know,

2574
01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 1: they don't have their main guy. But foot is a

2575
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 1: very you know, very talented running back. He can break

2576
01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: a long run. He's very talented. Deshaun Watson has that

2577
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 1: big play potential in his back pocket at all times.

2578
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 1: He's Amari Cooper. He's a receiver that the Giants have

2579
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:17,360
Speaker 1: not done fairly well against throughout his career for the

2580
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. You know, this is a tall task for

2581
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 1: the Giants to ask. You know, I'm looking forward for

2582
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 1: the offense to take a step forward and being smart

2583
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:30,680
Speaker 1: and protecting Daniel Jones running the football efficiently with Singingtary

2584
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 1: and Gray. Look, the Giants have to figure out how

2585
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 1: to play complimentary football. We're gonna be sitting here talking

2586
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:40,839
Speaker 1: like this after every single game if they can't figure

2587
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 1: that out. And I'm looking not looking for the offense

2588
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 1: to score thirty points a game, and I'm gonna looking

2589
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 1: for a defense to hold him under ten. But you

2590
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:49,560
Speaker 1: need to have complimentary football and play good situation of

2591
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:53,839
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Speaker 2: the Giant games will be next Sunday eleven am.

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Speaker 5: Giants going to Cleveland to take on the Browns.

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Speaker 2: And of course you can check out our coverage of

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Speaker 2: the Giants all week long on Big Blue Kickoff Live.

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Speaker 2: It's every weekday at twelve thirty we take your calls

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Speaker 2: and talk Giants football. We also have our Saturday show

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Speaker 2: on the fan at seven am on Saturday morning. Sean Morash,

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Speaker 2: you was coming up next, by the way, will be

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Speaker 2: with you every Saturday morning at seven am.

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Speaker 5: Taking your calls talking Giants football.

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Speaker 2: And you can check out the GIHNS Total podcast as

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Speaker 2: well as we talk everything in New York Football Giants

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Speaker 2: for John. They can see us fort Paul Deatino four

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Speaker 2: on Tire Crew down there in DC, pop up Banks

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Speaker 2: by Connor holding out in the ford. Over here with

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Speaker 2: Bob Carl. I am John Schmault. Thank you for joining

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Speaker 2: us for Giants football today. Giants fall to the Commanders

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Speaker 2: twenty one to eighteen. Sean Morash picks you up right

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Speaker 2: here on the fan when we get back after this

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Speaker 2: short break.