1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at and the whole show. And here we are. 5 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: If Mickey will be quiet for a moment, we'll start 6 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: mix shots here and it is a very special edition 7 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: of Mick Shots. I am Bill Jones inside not inside 8 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage studios here at the Star in Frisco. No, 9 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: I am inside the Academy Sports and Outdoors studios here 10 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: at Forge Center at the Star in Frisco. Along with 11 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola and Mickey, we have two very special guest 12 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: on Mick Shots, not only today and tomorrow, as we'd 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: got the great Dave Hellman and the great Heckma Harrison 14 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: inside their respective SWC Mortgage studios at home. How you doing, David, Heckma, 15 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm great. I'm thrilled to be here with y'all. Bringing 16 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: some young flavor to the whole show. That's a good idea. 17 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: Mickey needs some young flavor. Always need young flavor. They 18 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: helped me with technology, right and Heckma, how you doing? Man? 19 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: This is this is awesome. You know, I got my 20 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: I got my bones here on talking Cowboys with with Mickey. 21 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: He initiated me. You know, I thought that I was 22 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, I thought I was in with Mickey, you know, 23 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: I really did. Um. I thought I'd made a friendship. 24 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: But since I've left, I hadn't heard from him. So 25 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, look, I'm just glad to be back with 26 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: the game. All right. I thought i'd give Dave and 27 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Heckma the first chance because Mickey was talking right off 28 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: the top of the show as if it's his own 29 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: show or something. But Mickey, you have your cowboy gear 30 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: on inside your own studio there, I do, uh and 31 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: ready to go. So what do we calling this? Is 32 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: this like a swap we swap in teammates something like it? Yeah, 33 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: I think yeah, Nick Nick called it a scramble on 34 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: our show. I think that's I don't play golf, but 35 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: that sounds fair. Yeah, it's like a Cowboys dot Com 36 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: scramble if you will, and I'll go with that. Dab 37 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: you get your whole Cowboys Hawaii shirt on. Well, you 38 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: know it's a pandemic unfortunately, so you know we're gonna 39 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: get some downtime during the bye week, but I doubt 40 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: I'll be able to go anywhere. So I feel like 41 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: the bye week is a place of mine this year. 42 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to conjure up some memories of Hyre 43 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: you go, there, you go. I like that, You know, Bill, 44 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: we should have wore We should have wore in memory 45 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: of our trip to London, because I think November ninth 46 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: was the game that they played in in twenty sixteen 47 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: or twenty fourteen. Should have worn some of our London gear. 48 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: This is kind of the weak anniversary of it. You 49 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: could have worn a London fog trench coat on the 50 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: show there, Mickey. Hey, you know Bill, when when I 51 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: when I mentioned we were swapping, it occurred to me 52 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: And this might go past these guys, But in nineteen 53 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: seventy three, remember when the Yankee pitchers did the wife swap. Yes, 54 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Prince Peterson and Mike Kek Yes, absolutely so little history 55 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: for these guys, right, teammates definitely going starting teammates on 56 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: the New York Yankees pitching staff. And they announced at 57 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: training camp in seventy three they were swapping wives. That 58 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: sounds like some reality TV shows. They were ahead of 59 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: their time, did we ever find out how that worked 60 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: out for him. It worked out for Peterson and Mike 61 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: Keeck's wife, but not so much the other way out, 62 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: all Right. The reason that I am sporting a tie 63 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: is it's once, actually twice a week I have to 64 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: wear a tie these days. Once is when I on 65 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: Tuesday nights, usually as we pull back the curtain, I 66 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: tape to Mike McCarthy show here inside the Academy Sports 67 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: and Outdoors studios. And then on Sunday morning, I do 68 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: a show, a Cowboys Game Day show on CBS eleven. 69 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: That's the only time they let me in to the 70 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: CBS eleven studios over the course of the last six 71 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: months is on Sunday morning. And then the only time 72 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: really I get into this studio a couple of times 73 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: for we do a high school show on Wednesdays, but 74 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: McCarthy decided he didn't want to spend a late Tuesday 75 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: night here today, so we're actually taping the show. We're 76 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: supposed to tape it at two o'clock, So that's why 77 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm in here. And who knows the last fifteen minutes 78 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: of the show. Maybe y'all can listen in and watch 79 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: the taping of the Mike McCarthy Show if you want to, 80 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: or how about over the course of the next half 81 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: hour you give me suggestions on I can ask Mike McCarthy. 82 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: How about that. Yes, I was gonna say, we should 83 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: try to get Mike on the show. That's what we 84 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: should do. Say like, hey, let's do a two for one. 85 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: It's a good idea, that would be cool. Just let's 86 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: very sit in you know. Well, now, I think it'd 87 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: be better if we all could just ask him questions 88 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: and then that can double us the Mike McCarthy Show 89 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: for this week, which, by the way, you'll be able 90 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: to watch right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com whenever 91 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: it gets posted as well locally in Dallas foot Worth 92 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: at eleven thirty on Saturday nights. After all the college 93 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: football is over with, after that LSU Alabama game, David, 94 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: that's may or may not happen this week. Please, let's 95 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: let's hope that it doesn't. Let's not let's hope that 96 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. I don't really want to watch that, 97 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: all right, So keep all nicky. Let's get to the 98 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: news of the day, and there is news regarding one 99 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs topping the headlines on this day. The Cowboys 100 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: rookie starting cornerback does have a fractured bone in his 101 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: foot and looks like he will be out four to 102 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: six weeks. He didn't need surgery on it, so I 103 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: guess that's encouraging. They're supposed to put him in a 104 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: walking boot. They should have told me. I would have 105 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: brought my walking boot in and lent it to him 106 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: if he needed it. And you know, Dave and I 107 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: were just talking about when we thought he might have 108 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: broken the bone in his foot. You know, Jerry Jones 109 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: made mentioned this morning that they thought there was something 110 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: wrong when Pittsburgh had that first possession in the fourth 111 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 1: quarter and they were at the one yard line, and 112 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: Dave and I both saw it. On the second down play, 113 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: they threw a past to mccleoud to Digs's side and 114 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: he was ten yards off the line of scrimmage, and 115 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: it went through my mind. I was like, what is 116 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: he doing the balls on the one yard line? Why 117 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: didn't he like manning up right on the line of 118 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: scrimmage with this guy? And I think maybe he already 119 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: knew he did something to it, and he was backing 120 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: off trying to play through it, and then they threw 121 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: another pass his way and he was way off the 122 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage again, so we'll see. Dave thinks he 123 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: saw a play that might have definitely put him to rest. Dave, Yeah, 124 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: all I know for sure is that Trayvon Diggs played 125 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: at least like half a series, if not more with 126 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: this injury like it serta looks like just based on 127 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, the endgame announcement that he was out didn't 128 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: come until almost the end of the game, and he 129 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: went out at the top of the fourth quarter. I 130 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: think he played a little ways with this thing, which 131 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: is just a testament to how tough football players are. 132 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: That you break a boat in your foot as a cornerback, 133 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: you think you're probably getting off the field asap. But 134 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: it looks like he tried to gut it out. I'm 135 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: not one hundred percent sure when had happened, but yeah, 136 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: definitely a weird discrepancy there. But it sucks for Treyvon. 137 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: That's tough, news man, tough for us to hear that. 138 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this injury written team and just another name 139 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: to add to it. I mean, it's a you know again, 140 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: tough break for us. But you know, did also get 141 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: some news today about Tito coming off IR so maybe 142 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: there is a little bit of civil lining in this 143 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: for a veteran, for this squad to get a veteran 144 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: and Tito Woozy a back yep. And mckeids we talked 145 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: about into last week when they didn't an activate him 146 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: before the last game. His twenty one day window was 147 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: expiring this week and so if he was going to 148 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: play this year, they've had to make that move this week. 149 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: And so h you know, and another thing, I'm looking 150 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: back through my notes, and it was with four when 151 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh started their drive with four to eleven left in 152 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: the game, as when Savian Smith was in for Trayvon, 153 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: And it was that prior series which David you're talking about, 154 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: which started at eleven forty left. The couple of times 155 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: they hit Ray Ray McLeod down on the when they 156 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: started that nine that from their own one yard line 157 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: where where Diggs was playing off McLeod on that one, 158 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: I think. And I was watching the game from home 159 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: and Romo was saying the same things that that y'all 160 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: were saying in the press box there that he did, 161 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: something must be going on with Diggs. Yeah, and it's 162 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: a good timing for Chittabey Ewoosier to get back in here. 163 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: You know, he missed he I mean, he got hurt 164 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: in the second game of the season, so he's he's 165 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: missed uh six games and h you know, he's going 166 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: into his free agency year next year, so it's he's 167 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: basically got seven games to kind of prove to either 168 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys that he's worthy of being resigned or if 169 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: he's in free agency, you know, he needs something to 170 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: market himself, and these seven games will be I think 171 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: vitally important. And remember until the previous game when Diggs 172 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: had two interceptions, Cheetos had an interception in those first 173 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: two games, and that had been the only interception this 174 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: team has had until Diggs picked off to the previous game, 175 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: which I'm sorry, guys, go ahead, no, no, go ahead. Heck, 176 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: that's a that's an interesting situation with Cheeto, you know, 177 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: him getting hurt and also being a year that he's 178 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: looking to sign a contract. I mean, this hamstring injury 179 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: couldn't have come at a worse time for him, So 180 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: mentality wise, that's what I want to know. What is 181 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: he thinking? Is it strong? Enough for him to do 182 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: exactly what you just said, Mick, make a strong enough 183 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: case for himself to stay here or auditioning for someone else. Look, 184 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: we've known that this young guys played, played hard. He's 185 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: been one of our physical corners, and just looking over 186 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: the defense and looking at over the what's going on 187 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: with them right now, not having him healthy has definitely 188 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: affected what we've had back there. It's just I was 189 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: just gonna say, it's interesting to think that, and I 190 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: think any of us are under the illusion that this 191 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: Dallas defense was ever going to be great, But we 192 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: really never got a genuine look at the preferred secondary. 193 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: You know, I got you know, I guess they had 194 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: them all together in week one, but Cheetah goes out, 195 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: Cheetoh goes out after week two. A B was on 196 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: IR for a two or three week stretch, And now 197 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: that Cheeto's coming back, you've got Treyvon going to IR. 198 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: So if you're preferred three were Cheeto, Treyvon, and Anthony Brown, 199 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: you maybe got to see them for a game and 200 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: a half. And yeah, and this is this is a 201 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: huge stretch for Cheeto in terms of his financial future. 202 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: But it's not gonna be any easier for him with 203 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: lesson depth in the secondary while he's trying to pull 204 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: it off. You know the other thing I had forgotten 205 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: when I was looking this up, Jordan Lewis missed the 206 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: first game, so they never really had their top three 207 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: guys on the field really all at the same time, 208 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: because then Ab got hurt, he was out, then a 209 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: B came back, Cheeto got hurt, and and who knows 210 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: what the plan might have been. It might have been 211 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: for Digs to kind of slowly move in tow to 212 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: the starting lineup, like give him some plays, and then 213 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: when they felt he was comfortable, get him in there. 214 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: But he had to get in there right from the start, 215 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: and that's tough on a rookie corner and you know, 216 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: he paid for it at times, and they paid for 217 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: it at times. The good thing is he never lost 218 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: his confidence, and I think they saw something within him that, Okay, 219 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: I got I get beat, but I'm still playing hard. 220 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's a good quality at one that 221 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: cornerbacks obviously need to have. You know the other thing, 222 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: when you look back at that game against the Steelers, 223 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: when you consider the fact now we know what Diggs 224 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: was dealing with on that last drive at Pittsburgh. It 225 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: was a seventy five yard drive that started their own 226 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: one yard line that ended in the Boswell field goal 227 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: that made it a nineteen eighteen game. And then he 228 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: came out and Savion Smith is in there on that 229 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: last drive by Pittsburgh that gave him the lead at 230 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: twenty four nineteen. Think about what the Cowboys were missing 231 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: in their second and dairy from what they wanted to 232 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: have in their secondary and Mickey, as you pointed out 233 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: in yesterday's show, at that point in the game, Uh, 234 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: the Steelers, they were they were They were throwing on 235 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: every down anyway. I mean, they decided that we can't 236 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: run the ball, believe it or not. Even with a 237 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: one score game, they weren't running the ball against the 238 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys anymore. They were just putting it in Big Ben's ends. 239 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: And h I don't remember the numbers. You said, twenty 240 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: two out of twenty three plays were pass plays during 241 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: that stretch of the game. But the Cowboys, think about it. 242 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: They were down not only Cheeto, but also down Treyvon 243 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: Diggs in those two critical fourth quarter possessions of the 244 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: game for the Steelers, and and at that point in 245 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: the game, Mickey, they were playing the dime defense, and 246 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: so you had every defensive back that they had available 247 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: basically that were on the field in that situation. Yeah, 248 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: including Savian Smith, who they basically brought up from the 249 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: practice squad for the game. And I think even your 250 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: ou SA safety Parker H Parker, he was, Yeah, he was, 251 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: he was. He was in the game too. I think 252 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: that playing single safety high because they had moved darry 253 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: and Thompson and Wilson up closer to the line of 254 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: scrimmage along with Woods. So yeah, so they could try 255 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: to cover all these receivers and they were treating um 256 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: and they should have kept treating Ebron Uh as a receiver, 257 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: not a tight end. Uh as the one he scored 258 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: on the knockout touchdown when nobody covered him. Jalen Smith, Hey, 259 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: you can't say that because Mike Nolan wouldn't say it. Yesterday. 260 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan had the reason he wouldn't say it because 261 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: he didn't want to say it. Yeah, Mike Nolan literally 262 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, the defense just didn't do his job 263 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: well enough, and that's really all I want to say 264 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, well, Mike, we have access to 265 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: tape too, So do what that was, you will? It 266 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: was it was like it was like his non answer 267 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: on the penalties, right, yeah, exactly. That whole last drive 268 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: by the Steelers and Tony Romo is kind of he's 269 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: he's looking his crystal ball and telling you what's about 270 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: to happen, and then it's happening. And Bill, it just 271 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: seemed to me like Ben new that Savian Smith was 272 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: in the in the ball game, and the way that 273 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: the defense was structure it just made it so much easier. 274 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: And then the Eric Ebron hurdling him into the end 275 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: zone was like the cherry on the top for that 276 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: last drive. Oh and I've never played football at a 277 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: high level, but sorry, man, no go ahead. I've never 278 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: played football at a high level, but I've played pick 279 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: up football and when somebody can't cover, the quarterback figures 280 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: it out real real quick. Like there's no doubt in 281 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: my mind not to pick on Savian Smith. But Ben 282 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: was in the huddle just like where's thirty two? Who's 283 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: who's gonna be on thirty two? I'm coming to you 284 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: just know that right now, Like there's that's apps what 285 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: was happening? You know what was amazing when Romo kept 286 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, they've got all these receivers out 287 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: there and at some point somebody's gonna miss a tackle 288 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: and they're gonna break a big play. Right. The next 289 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: play was the forty two yard short pass play mistackle? 290 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: I think it was. Was it to Clay Claypool? Um, 291 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to Uh it was to Johnson. Uh, and 292 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: he goes forty two yards which set up that touchdown? 293 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: And it was and he was he was exactly right 294 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: because the feeling this is getting ready to happen, and 295 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: that was a mistackle. Yeah, and that was a mistackle 296 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: by Smith. If I'm not mistaken on that one, you're right. Uh. 297 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: It was awful man, that that last drive. But I 298 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: mean that's why Big Ben Shirley is going to be 299 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer, just by the way 300 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: he orchestrated that last drive. All Right, we're just getting 301 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: started on this edition of Mixed Shots. I got a 302 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: question when we come back in just a moment, what 303 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: is the biggest difference between the Cowboys and the Pittsburgh Steelers. 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All right, Mickey, 345 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: up to the challenge on a special edition to mix shots. 346 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: You got new ears listening to you here, and you 347 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: you survive that without without skipping a beat. Let's be careful. 348 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: I still got one more to go. I don't get cocky, 349 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: all right. I asked a question before the break, the 350 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: biggest difference between the Cowboys and the Steelers. Let's go 351 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 1: around the horn. What do you what do you think 352 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: is the biggest difference between those two teams? Right now? 353 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: Let's go with our guests first. All right, heck man, 354 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: you want to go first? I mean, I mean, are 355 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: we talking? You're talking right now? Between these two teams, 356 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: I think, obviously, the continuity that they have at quarterback. 357 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: I think Big Ben gives them, um gives them a 358 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: heck of a lot more than what we're getting from 359 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: our quarterbacks right now. And and their defense, those would 360 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: be the two things that I would point to that 361 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: would be, uh, the apparent difference between the Stealers and 362 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: the Cowboys for sure. All right, day, I feel like 363 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: I feel like it is a trick question, like you're 364 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: trying to bait me into something. My answer, I mean, 365 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: what to see if you see what you think? How 366 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: about how about the record because one of them, one 367 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: of them is currently uh currently in position to get 368 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: the buy in the AFC, and the other one is 369 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: number three in the draft though, and I mean I 370 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: could I couldn't go for that one. I thought that 371 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: that he's got something else waiting for me. Surely, surely 372 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: there must be something going on, because that's obvious. I mean, 373 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: and Heckman was totally right. The reason for that is 374 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback and the injuries and the continuity. But yeah, 375 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: one of these teams is planning on playing deep into January. 376 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: And the other answers here, there are no wrong answers. 377 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: They're all pretty obvious answers, all right. And I love 378 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: that one. There's bottom line Dave Hellman right there. He 379 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: just cuts to the chase. I love that was that 380 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: was a perfect answer. All right, Mickey, what's your answer? 381 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: So let me give you three numbers from each team 382 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: and you decide which side of the ball is the 383 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: cause of it. Okay, So for the Pittsburgh Steelers, they 384 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: registered two sacks, seven tackles for losses, and nine quarterback hits. 385 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: Your Dallas Cowboys total zero sacks, three tackles for losses, 386 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: and two quarterback hits. So we can talk about the 387 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: differences in the quarterbacks for sure, but sounds like either 388 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: protection or the ability to put pressure on the opposing 389 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: quarterbacks were the difference between the Cowboys and the Pittsburgh 390 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Steelers or mate and but Big Ben said after the 391 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: game on Sunday that he thinks that that Cowboys pass 392 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: rush might have been the toughest that they faced all 393 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: season long. Did it ever hit them more than one time? Well, 394 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: they they testament they got his knees there at the 395 00:22:54,520 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: end of the finish it all right. So my answer 396 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: to the question is and this, I think this gives 397 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys hope for the Cowboys fans hope for the future. 398 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: The biggest difference between these two teams injuries. I mean, 399 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: when you look at the whole key, it's a it's 400 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: an attrition is such a huge factor in this in 401 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: any NFL season. But if you look at that Steeler's 402 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: roster and compare it to the Cowboys, I mean, there 403 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: is no comparison there. They lost Devin Bush, who they 404 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: think they feel like they are replacing a little bit 405 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: because they traded for Avery Williamson. That will help him 406 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: in the second half of the season and on end 407 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. But you go across the board, what 408 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: have they lost injury wise? Yeah, in that game they 409 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: were missing Tyson alua Lua. Okay, but he's not out 410 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: for any duration of time. But we all know what 411 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are dealing with injury wise. But in an offseason, 412 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: you are putting your team together and you're thinking, these 413 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: are the guys that are going to be with me. Yeah, 414 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: now you're gonna lose some guys. The Cowboys have lost 415 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: so many and on both sides of the ball. We 416 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: already talked. We were talking about the secondary, what they lost, 417 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: the defensive tackle even with the Gerald McCoy injury the 418 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: first practice of training camp, and obviously what happened on 419 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: the offensive side. But if the Steelers lose their two tackles, 420 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: their quarterback, then the guys that the Cowboys are losing, 421 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: they'd be sitting here at the same record the Cowboys have. 422 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: But Bill, Bill, you knew that Garrett Gilbert was going 423 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback against the Pittsburgh Steelers before 424 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: the season. Right, come on, man, I was being funny. 425 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: I was being els a joke, Mickey, that's a joke. 426 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: Don't jump over. So think about it. Think about it. 427 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: For at least one play in that game, the Cowboys 428 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: were down to their fourth left tackle right because they 429 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: didn't get Collins. Yeah, Irving was heard. Brandon Knight gets 430 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: in there. Then then they get, uh, who am I forgetting? 431 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: There was somebody else there for a while before Night 432 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: got I mean Irving got back right. Um, well, they 433 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: moved steal, they moved steal the side, and then Connor 434 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: McGovern came in and right right, But there was somebody 435 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: else between when Night got hurt until Irving came back. 436 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: I'm forgetting. You're talking, yeah, big picture, I forgot. I forgot. 437 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: So that was like their fifth for one snap, fifth 438 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: start left tackle, and you make a good point. Um, 439 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: and you you've got guys out there playing that really 440 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,239 Speaker 1: hadn't played all that much. I had forgotten about Night 441 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: until I think I saw him out here today doing 442 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: rehab work. You know, I think about this a lot 443 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: all the way back at the very start of training camp, 444 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: when they were you know, the whole storyline with using 445 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: the Omni Hotel as a bubble. Dak Prescott had to 446 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: quote that was like, the healthiest team is gonna win, 447 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: and he was taught he was talking about COVID, but 448 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: low and behold, it applies to it applies to regular 449 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: old injuries too. So yeah, I mean, you're not wrong, Bill, 450 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: You're absolutely not wrong. That was a prophetic word from Dak. 451 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: He didn't even know how that statement was. And the 452 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: other thing is the healthiest team is gonna win and 453 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: they are the least healthy team in the league. The 454 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: other thing about it is it's even more obvious this 455 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 1: year because of their new rules this year as far 456 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: as using using i R where a guy can you 457 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: can keep a guy out for three weeks and then 458 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: they can come back. So it's obvious. You just look 459 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: on paper and look at how many guys this team 460 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: has used and how many guys this this team has used, 461 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: and it's uh, I think if you go down, probably 462 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: if you took the time, uh to go down. The 463 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: rosters of the teams that have that are well above 464 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: five hundred right now. The biggest difference is going to 465 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: be those teams are healthy. I mean it's amazing what 466 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco has been able to do with all the 467 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: injuries that they've had, just to be hovering around five 468 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: hundred on the season. Yeah, and speaking of the injuries, 469 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: and then not only do you lose your backup quarterback 470 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: to a concussion, and then you lose them for another 471 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: game for putting them on reserve COVID nineteen. So that 472 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: even added to this whole deal of the Cowboys having 473 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: to start their fourth quarterback and then lo and behold. 474 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: This week, the COVID thing affects them again because of 475 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: the McDonald the tight end for Pittsburgh testing positive the 476 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: next day, and so the Cowboys had to go into 477 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: their I think they call it intensive COVID nineteen protocol, 478 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: having the rest of the meetings this week. Whatever they 479 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: had planned going virtual, and the Wednesday practiced that they 480 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: were going to have, they had to cancel. So in 481 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: a you know, inadvertent way. Uh, it's it's affecting them 482 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: this week too, when they could have least had one practice, 483 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: now they'll have none. And that beat continues to you know, 484 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: go on. I'm honestly not even worried about them not 485 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: having a bye week practice and I don't want to be. 486 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to be mister doom and Gloom, But 487 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a few days and seeing if there's 488 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: anything in the news about positive tests, because that's that's 489 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: the bullet you've got to dodge now. Is hopefully nobody 490 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: on this team was you know, close enough to Vance 491 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: McDonald that they're going to wind up testing positive, and 492 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, that's the last thing this team needs is 493 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: Saturday or Sunday morning word comes out that a few 494 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: guys have tested positive or whatever. And I don't want 495 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: to I don't know that it's happened. I don't know 496 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: that it will happen, but it's definitely something you got 497 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. He did play, ask what 498 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: else can go wrong? Yeah? No, absolutely, yeah. He was 499 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: out there, he played twenty players, he caught one pass 500 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: and unfortunately Donothan Wilson had to tackle him. So yeah, 501 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: we'll see how this goes forward. Well. I will say 502 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: this though, that if there is a Cowboys player who 503 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: caught it from Vance McDonald during the game, it would 504 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: be the first time on record anyway that what they 505 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: know of that that a football player has caught it 506 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: from an opposing player, uh, during a game. I haven't 507 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: heard it on the college I know it hadn't happened 508 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Come on, Bill, Bill, Bill, it hasn't 509 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: happened yet, okay, And so it hadn't happened on the 510 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: college level. I mean the doctors that I've talked to 511 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: about it leading up to the college's trying to make 512 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: a decision. I've got a good friend who's a doctor, 513 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: and he said, the problem is not going to be 514 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: on the field. The problem for like for the colleges. 515 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be after the game. It's gonna be at 516 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: the bars, it's gonna be wherever, you know. But because 517 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: of the ventilation and so forth, the problem, and so 518 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: I think it knock on wood. I think it'll be 519 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: surprising if if a cowboy player catches it from a 520 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: from Base McDonald unless they were hanging out on Saturday 521 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: night or something of like hope, So Bill sort of 522 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: like the Notre Dame student body advancing onto the field 523 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: after the upset Clemson, that's right, he's kids. They were. 524 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: They were in closer proximity to each other than that 525 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: for a longer period of time though than the football 526 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: players are on the field. I don't as a as 527 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: a kid these days or thinking a kid on this show. 528 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's a coincidence that 529 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: we're seeing spikes around college football because you know, Halloween 530 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: is ten days in the rearview. So hopefully, uh, hopefully 531 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: the NFL did a better job of staying in on 532 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: Halloween than than colleges did. All right, we're approaching the 533 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: two o'clock hour, which is when I am supposed to 534 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: do my interview with Mike McCarthy for the Mike McCarthy Show. 535 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: So I think I guess I will bail out here 536 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: and wait on the arrival of the coach. We've still 537 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: got the camera up in here, so yall can look 538 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: in on what's happening if you'd like, and we can 539 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: get our question ten minutes. Yeah, do you have a question? Hey, Bill, 540 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: ask this. You can tell me right now, and I'll 541 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: decide whether I'm going to use quarterback controversy. Quarterback controversy. 542 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: There you go, do we have a quarterback controversy? Coach 543 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: finally get a quarterback to come within five points of 544 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: winning a game, Now he should be the starter. There 545 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: you go. I mean that's what they're trying to say. 546 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: All right. I don't think we'll get much of an 547 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: answer for a coach on that. All right, So I 548 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: guess you three carry on on mix Shots, and I'll 549 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: be trying to listen in as we await the arrival 550 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: of Mike McCarthy here inside the Academy Sports and Outdoor studios. 551 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: He's not going to be arriving here. He does it 552 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: from near his office and Ford Center. All right, But 553 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: mix Shots continues in a moment, we're backing the tasty 554 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: treat that's sweeping air waves and taste buds. It's new 555 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: Doctor pepper and cream soda. Let's take a listen, Doctor 556 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: pepper and cream soda. 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Mickey Spagnola along with HECKM. 591 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: Harrison from The Talking Cowboys and David Hellman from the 592 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: Lunch and Bill had to step away to take care 593 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: of his interview with Mike McCarthy for The Mike McCarthy Show. 594 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go this last segment just the three 595 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: of us and I I did have a question for 596 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: you guys, since I've got the two kind of draft 597 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: gurus here with me. Uh Tach McKinley got released, what 598 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: are your thoughts I saw that. To be really honest 599 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: with you, I'm I'm on board. Like one one of 600 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: the benefits of being bad is that they're third in 601 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: the waiver order. So anybody that hits waivers, you got 602 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: a really good shot at him. They wanted Tech McKinley 603 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty seventeen. Yeah, um yeah, and I traded 604 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: up in front of him to get him, and they 605 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: had to settle for Taco Charlton. We can talk about 606 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: that another day, but it doesn't It doesn't cost you 607 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: anything to claim him. And you liked him three years ago. 608 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: I you know, he obviously didn't live up to the billing, 609 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: or else he'd still be in Atlanta. But I don't 610 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: see what you have to lose, No, agreed, Dave. I 611 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: mean tech tech McKinley out of Ucla. I think we 612 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: loved him, and and like you said, Atlanta moved up 613 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: to get him. I don't know what all his problems 614 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: were in Atlanta, but for them to move away from him, 615 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: I think that those are gonna raise some flags, and 616 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: so I want to definitely know what those are. Obviously, 617 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: staying healthy may have been his issue as well in Atlanta, 618 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: but former first round draft pick Man still looks like 619 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: he has a lot of good years in front of him. 620 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: For us, Man, we need the youth movement to start immediately. 621 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: So absolutely I would be willing to take a swing 622 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: at him to see it, at least what he has left. 623 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: So I've got somewhat of an answer for you how 624 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: things went sour there. And by the way, he's only 625 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: played four games this year. He's had a groin injury, 626 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: and so he had been missing games and he hadn't 627 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: played I think they even the last two games. And 628 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: to David's point, you know, he's on the last year 629 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: of his of his contract, and basically the base salary 630 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: is what you would have to pick up. So we're 631 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: what eight games, nine games into the season, so you 632 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: would have to pick up seven sixteenths of like nine 633 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand, which is negligible, right, that's really 634 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: not that much. But here's what happened. He wanted to 635 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: get traded and they wouldn't trade him, so he got mad, 636 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: and they didn't pick up his fifth year option, which 637 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: was going to be ten point three million, So that's 638 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: one of the red flags, like, oh, why not they 639 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: aren't they picking up that option. And then when they 640 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't trade him by the trade deadline, I guess he 641 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: took the social media to sound off saying saying that 642 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: they said they trade me, they didn't trade me, and 643 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: they got pissed at him. And Raheem Morris, the head 644 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: coach now interim that's the word I was looking for. 645 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: He when they asked him what wentn't wrong, and he said, 646 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: I think it's immaturity. Tack will be handled accountably. Well 647 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: they handle it. It was like, you know what you 648 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: want to sound off like that, Okay, you're out, go 649 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: find a job because no one wanted to give us 650 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: enough in the trade market. Wouldn't even give us a 651 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: sixth and an eighth or six and a seventh. I 652 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: think it was for you, So go see what you 653 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: can find. This is a pretty common This is a 654 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: pretty common phenomenon in the NFL these days. I mean, 655 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlap did something serious, very similar to get out 656 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. I know he's a much more experienced player, 657 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: but honestly, Tacer O'charlton is a pretty fair comparison too. 658 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: Like that was that was not an amicable split. The 659 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys were very happy for him to be gone by 660 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: the time they finally cut him. And I'll be honest, 661 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: I don't keep close tabs on Taco, but he spent 662 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: most of the season in Miami, and he's been with 663 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: Kansas City, and it certainly doesn't seem like he's a 664 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: problem child. So sometimes a change of scenery can do 665 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: a lot for you. I do no go ahead, ex sorry, no, 666 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to say, you know, when when it comes 667 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: down to athletes and being disgruntled and contract years, I 668 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: mean that's like historic, that's a going theme all around 669 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: the league. But there has to be something more too. 670 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: And like you said, they're a first round guy that's 671 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: now they won't give up a six or seven for them. 672 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: So I guess those are the question marks that I 673 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: have for tack McKinley. But then also, you know this defense, 674 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm just going back to the guys that we have 675 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: are starting to play better together. I don't want to 676 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: be under any illusion here. Are you guys starting to 677 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: feel the same way about this defense that has been 678 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: historically bad that are starting to take some steps now? Yeah? 679 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: You know what? And I made a comment about that, 680 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: and I really hadn't thought about it yesterday. Somehow I 681 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: got into that conversation of since the Cowboys, uh, you know, 682 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: moved on from Poe and Worly, who was the other guy. 683 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: There was three guys they ended up Everson Griffin. Everson 684 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: Griffin and I made this comment, and I've heard heard 685 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: this before, so I'll throw it out at you guys. 686 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 1: I said, sometimes when you have a team together, there's 687 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: something to have a bunch of guys on your team 688 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: with sweat equity. Like I've been through the trials and 689 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: tribulations with this team. I've gone through some of the 690 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: good stuff, but I've also fought through the bad stuff. 691 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 1: And then I get three guys that are basically carpetbaggers 692 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: coming in on one year deals, trying to make a 693 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: name for themselves, right, and it's like, do they care 694 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: about the team or do they care about themselves? Oh? Man, 695 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean Everson Griffins got equity. He's been to like 696 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,959 Speaker 1: four Pro Bowls, but he's a new coop. He's named 697 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: after Everson Walls. He loved I mean he loved the Cowboys. Yeah, 698 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: I'm serious, he was. Okay, you call him man of carpetbagger. 699 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't even know where to go after that. But 700 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: when it comes down to what we have now, you 701 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: could tell, like these guys, whatever that was when they 702 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: got rid of those three guys, it it rejuvenated this defense, 703 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: and whether it was just time from a historic standpoint, 704 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: I think you're starting to see a little bit of 705 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: sunshine through those dark clouds for the Cowboys defense, and 706 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: there are improvements even on the back end with and 707 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: I know, Mick. We didn't get any sacks versus the stealers, 708 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: but still guys were getting close. We had some sex 709 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: strip bumbles negated by costly penalties. But still you're starting 710 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 1: to see a lot more things come together other than 711 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: the injuries and guys just playing out of position the 712 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: way that it looked all season. I mean, let me 713 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: agree with it. Let me I was gonna say, let 714 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: me point out this. The last two games, the run 715 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: defense right improved greatly. Yes, did everybody just figure it 716 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: out at once that oh that's my gap, that's my gap. 717 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: And they were playing gap integrity as a team and 718 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: not as an individual chasing sacks or an individual just 719 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: kind of standing up in the middle line and doing nothing. 720 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 1: It's like me in statistics class the third time. Sometimes 721 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: it just thought the stick, you know, I think maybe 722 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: they just got a hold of it. I figured they 723 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: could do it. And the eighth and nine game the 724 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: stick right. I don't know if it's a point. I 725 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: don't disagree. I don't disagree with anything y'all are saying 726 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: and the results speak for themselves. They look way more competent. 727 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: But this is a business at the end of the day, 728 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: and you've got half a season of evidence that suggests 729 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: that you're not very good. And also, going back to 730 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: the point from earlier, your record says you're probably not 731 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: going anywhere important. So if it's me, I'm turning over 732 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: every stone I can to see how I can improve 733 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: and add talent to this defense, and not just Tack McKinley. 734 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: I meant to bring the love to see more of 735 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: Bradley and I in these next seven games. I want 736 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: to know what I've got because the whole we like 737 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: who we've got. We're build like a where are you 738 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: building toward right now? You're not. You're probably not going 739 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: on the playoffs. So Bradley and I, yes, if you 740 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 1: can claim Tack McKinley, yes, no, And me and Kyle 741 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: like I mean, obviously we worked on the draft together, 742 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: so we both like and I. But now is the 743 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: time to try to acquire talent. You don't know what 744 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: the future holds for Alden Smith. They have they have 745 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: the rights to Randy Gregory, but he certainly doesn't have 746 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: a clear long term future right now, I'm doing everything 747 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: in my power to try to add talent to this 748 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: team that I can evaluate over the second half. And 749 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: if you can get Tack McKinley for nothing, doesn't sound 750 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: like a terrible idea. In my opinion. You may be 751 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: renting them for seven games, but you're not obligated to 752 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: them going forward if it doesn't work. I'm with you 753 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,439 Speaker 1: guys on that. Hey, and just remember there only one 754 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: victory behind the team leading the NFC East, and that's 755 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: that's big, man. That's that's big. And that's also something 756 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: to consider. But guys, we got to talk about the 757 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 1: elephant in the room here. Now, we got a quarterback 758 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: situation going on with Andy Dalton and Garrett Gilbert. I 759 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: want to know what you think about those two quarterbacks 760 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: going forward after the bye week. Well, unfortunately we have 761 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: two minutes and we may have to pick it up tomorrow. 762 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: But I think the quick, all right, all right answer 763 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 1: is there was a reason why everybody was so fired 764 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: up about Andy Dalton being the backup quarterback. I think 765 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: you got to see that one through. Yeah, I mean 766 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 1: we can, we can get into it in detail tomorrow, 767 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: but I think it's kind of wild that I mean, 768 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: and Garrett Gilbert, he played so great. I'm not trying 769 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: to take anything away from him. But I'm not ready 770 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: to go away from a ten year veteran because Garrett 771 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: Gilbert had a nice day in a tough circumstance. I mean, especially, 772 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: you know, talk to me again in December if they're ten, Yeah, 773 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: maybe you want to get a look at the younger guy. 774 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: But for the time being, while the division is still 775 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: maybe within reach, I'm playing Andy. Heck, you get the 776 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: last one. That may be something to be No, that's 777 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 1: something to be considered. I think that Garrett Gilbert, as 778 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 1: far as the eyeball tests he came in is looked 779 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: to me, and like everybody else is seeing that the 780 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: team was receptive to him. Andy Dalton in his time 781 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: starting you you got a lot of drives that didn't 782 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: finish with points, so you have a lot to measure. 783 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: You had a lot to juggle from this coach and staff. 784 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: But it sounds like to me that they're already saying 785 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton is going to be their guy. And 786 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: I've always been of the mind that Andy Dalton came 787 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: here to Dallas thinking that he would never get any 788 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: live action other than you know later in the season. 789 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: But hey, that's neither here nor there. We'll talk about 790 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: that tomorrow. Yeah, no, absolutely, And I'll throw this out 791 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: and we can pick it up tomorrow when we have 792 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: the mixed Shots wife swap. That's hard to say, really hard, 793 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: We'll say, right, but I heard so many point this album, 794 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: and I'll give him credit for it if I can 795 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: remember who did it. It was like Andy Dalton basically 796 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: came here on a one year deal because he was 797 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: hoping he could parlay that into a long term deal 798 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: with another team, right, maybe even a starting job. Yeah, 799 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: you've got Garrett Gilbert here, and maybe you want to 800 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: find out can he be your somewhat veteran backup quarterback 801 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: going forward when Dak Prescott comes back, and you've got 802 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: another seven games to maybe figure that out and not say, oh, 803 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: I've got to turn this over to Ben Denucci or 804 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 1: I got to go find another veteran quarterback to back 805 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: up Dak Prescott. So smoke on that for a while 806 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: and we'll see what we think tomorrow when we come 807 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: back to Mick Shots. Thanks to Bill for dropping in 808 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: before he had to take off the interview. Mike McCarthy, heck, mcdave, 809 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: talk to you guys tomorrow. Mickey Spagnola and that was 810 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: Mick shots. This has been a production of Dellas Cowboys 811 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,879 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dellas Cowboys Football Club