Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my trusted colleague
Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our studios
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. We have to begin this
Speaker 1: show talking about magic numbers, because three hundred is a
Speaker 1: pretty good batting average for a baseball player. It's a
Speaker 1: perfect game in bowling. It's a pretty good day passing
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. Three passing yards. This is our three
Speaker 1: hundredth episode of Packers Unscripted. Congratulations, my friends, Thank you Michael.
Speaker 1: We hit number three hundred, you know, And it was
Speaker 1: one of those things that when you every great show
Speaker 1: starts up, done, Smoke Seinfeld, whatever it is you hope
Speaker 1: to someday reach those milestones. One hundred, two hundred and
Speaker 1: here we are Packers on scripted and we did it
Speaker 1: in just two years. Three al right, Well, it's uh
Speaker 1: three hundred half hours of my life. I didn't get back.
Speaker 1: I guess that's one way to look at it anyway.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, my friend. Um, but we have another
Speaker 1: piece of news to talk about here, because since our
Speaker 1: last show, the Packers added yet another veteran player in
Speaker 1: UH I guess what you call the late free agency
Speaker 1: period here in offensive lineman Byron Bell, most recently of
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, now a Green Bay Packer and a
Speaker 1: guy who depending as we've talked about on the recovery
Speaker 1: of Brian Bulaga from his a c L injury from
Speaker 1: last season, this is a guy who could be in
Speaker 1: the mix to compete for a starting spot at right
Speaker 1: tackle for Week one. Could be in the mixes started
Speaker 1: a different bunch of different positions. He's played guard in
Speaker 1: the past as well, going back to his time with
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. I think he started seven games at
Speaker 1: guard that year. He played bolth spots and when he
Speaker 1: started in Carolina. A very experienced guy still only twenty
Speaker 1: nine years old, six ft five pounds, certainly passed the
Speaker 1: eye test in that regarden. He's a guy to the
Speaker 1: Packers have had interested in the past. I mean I
Speaker 1: wrote about this in the five Things to Know about
Speaker 1: him story on Packers dot Com. He was in for
Speaker 1: a visit last year right before I think it were
Speaker 1: right after the free agency started. A week later, he
Speaker 1: ends up signing with Dallas, where he backed up Tyron Smith.
Speaker 1: Last year at left tackle and made two spots starts,
Speaker 1: so a wealth of experience. Has started seventy four career
Speaker 1: regular season games out of the ninety that he's played.
Speaker 1: So this is a guy that came in as an
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent with the with the Panthers in two
Speaker 1: thousand eleven and ended up starting twelve games for him
Speaker 1: right away, the first one of those being against the Packers.
Speaker 1: So he's been in the league for a long time,
Speaker 1: knows all the tricks, and now he's gonna see what
Speaker 1: he adds to all these competitions. Yeah, an undrafted guy
Speaker 1: who definitely is has made his way in this league,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, became a starter fairly early on with
Speaker 1: with Carolina. Yeah, and you wonder, and I don't know
Speaker 1: this this this is just me speculating a little bit,
Speaker 1: but with him coming in for a visit last year
Speaker 1: as a potential free agent coming into Green Bay for
Speaker 1: a visit, you wonder if the Packers were looking at
Speaker 1: him potentially as a starter at guard, because that would
Speaker 1: have been before Jarry Evans had signed, because Evans didn't
Speaker 1: sign until closer to the draft at the end of April.
Speaker 1: So um, nonetheless a player the packers have had their
Speaker 1: eye on a little bit and UH and an opportunity
Speaker 1: to bring him in. If he is going to compete
Speaker 1: at right tackle, it'll be Jason Spriggs, Kyle Murphy, those
Speaker 1: guys we've talked about. I also look at this move
Speaker 1: because we talked about Justin McCrae on our last show.
Speaker 1: I think this is another move potentially that sends an
Speaker 1: even stronger signal that Justin McCrae is going to get
Speaker 1: the bulk of his work at guard and get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to start at guard there because you're bringing in
Speaker 1: a guy who the majority of his experience in the
Speaker 1: NFL is at tackle. When I worked at McDonald's, this
Speaker 1: is going back many years now, fourteen years ago, not
Speaker 1: as many as you think. Go ahead. When I started there,
Speaker 1: they put me on everything. I was working fries, I
Speaker 1: was working drive through, front desk, cleaning the parking lot,
Speaker 1: whatever they needed me to do. Eventually I settled it
Speaker 1: is the morning cook and that was the position that
Speaker 1: I played for a number of years. You're the egg
Speaker 1: McMuffin guy exactly. And I look at the Justin mccraie
Speaker 1: is a very similar situation. This is a guy that
Speaker 1: played all over the place. Last year, James Campin taught
Speaker 1: him how to play center. He never played center before.
Speaker 1: He was a natural right guard, but he ended up
Speaker 1: starting however, many games that was at right tackle. They
Speaker 1: saw a lot they liked in Justin mccraige. But it
Speaker 1: is probably time for him now to settle in and
Speaker 1: focus on one position because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the job is always the same, that the goals are
Speaker 1: always the same. These guys want to start in this league,
Speaker 1: and I think everybody would agree. Justin mccraige's best chance
Speaker 1: to be a long term starter is probably going to
Speaker 1: be at the guard position. Packers drafted two tackles two
Speaker 1: years ago, Jason Spriggs who has made a big change
Speaker 1: in his body, Kyle Murphy coming back off injury, and
Speaker 1: Brian blog is one of the best there is at
Speaker 1: right tackle. So a lot of things have to get
Speaker 1: shuffled out there. What you get though, and Byron Bell
Speaker 1: now is a player, a veteran that comes in and
Speaker 1: can fill in a number of different spots and really
Speaker 1: compete to push all those other guys that are now
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, get a hold on a roster spot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and For all the trouble the Packers had last year
Speaker 1: with getting settled on the offensive line, it was nobody's fault.
Speaker 1: Injuries happened. Guys are shuffling around, moving around. If there's
Speaker 1: a benefit to it, it's certainly the experience that guy's got,
Speaker 1: because we don't know how this roster is going to
Speaker 1: shake out, how the depth chart is going to shake
Speaker 1: out at the end of training camp in the preseason.
Speaker 1: But you just look at all these guys were talking
Speaker 1: about McCrae, Lucas Patrick, Jason Spriggs, Kyle Murphy, Byron Bell.
Speaker 1: Whoever ends up starting whoever, and you know, and this again,
Speaker 1: assuming Brian bulag is not back for Week one, which
Speaker 1: there's always a chance that he could be, but whoever
Speaker 1: ends up starting Week one, and whoever ends up being
Speaker 1: the backups at the start of the season, everybody's played. Now,
Speaker 1: these guys have experience, they've been they've been there and
Speaker 1: done that at least a little bit. And that's gonna
Speaker 1: matter if potentially more injuries strike down the road, because
Speaker 1: look at Justin McCrae. I mean, this is a guy
Speaker 1: that was a long shot to make the roster last year.
Speaker 1: He ends up kind of getting his foot in the
Speaker 1: door as a backup center. It's really the only position
Speaker 1: he ended up not playing during the season. Lucas Patrick
Speaker 1: was a fringe guy who ended up making the roster.
Speaker 1: You don't know what the roster is gonna look like
Speaker 1: by the end of August, but you can prepare for
Speaker 1: different scenarios. I think this is another thing the Packers
Speaker 1: are doing to really give themselves that kind of cushion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. With that, we're going to go
Speaker 1: to a break back with more on Packers Unscripted right
Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in
Speaker 1: this chair, Wes Hodkowits in that one, and West. We
Speaker 1: ended the last segment talking about experience and depth that
Speaker 1: the Packers are are starting to develop here on what
Speaker 1: appears to be the right side of the offensive line.
Speaker 1: There's another position that the Packers probably have more experience,
Speaker 1: maybe than they've ever had at this stage, and I'm
Speaker 1: talking about tight End. We we discussed the edition of
Speaker 1: Marcedes Lewis in our last episode, but when you look
Speaker 1: at the tight End group as a whole, you've got
Speaker 1: the young guys, Emmanuel Bird, Robert Tony and a couple
Speaker 1: of other young guys who are trying to make their way.
Speaker 1: But the three guys at the top of the depth
Speaker 1: chart right now and whatever order you want to put
Speaker 1: him in, Jimmy Graham, Lance Kendricks, Marcedes Lewis. That's an
Speaker 1: awfully experienced group that has a lot of games under
Speaker 1: their belt in this league. Yeah, over thirty years of
Speaker 1: experience all told there. And I think the thing about that, really,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, stung me the most about
Speaker 1: the Mercedes Lewis signing is the really the reality afterwards
Speaker 1: that yeah, you already do have Jimmy Graham, what nine
Speaker 1: years and in now, uh, Lance Kendricks with seven or
Speaker 1: eight under his belt, and now you get Louis coming
Speaker 1: in and and obviously still playing at a high level
Speaker 1: at thirty four and year thirteen. So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: interesting to watch all these these chips fall. But the
Speaker 1: fact that they have as many moving pieces as they have,
Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy addressed it when he met with the
Speaker 1: media on Thursday morning, they're gonna be able to do
Speaker 1: from tip types of things now with Jimmy Graham, the
Speaker 1: versatility and how they're gonna be able to use these
Speaker 1: guys around in the you know, really the different pieces
Speaker 1: that they have to work with in those two tight
Speaker 1: end packages. It's gonna be something he's never really had before.
Speaker 1: You know, I honestly was, you know, wrapping my brain
Speaker 1: around it too. I mean, I would say it's probably
Speaker 1: what the late nineties, since Shimura, Keith Jackson, maybe Tyrone
Speaker 1: Davis or Tyrone Davis. Yeah, maybe that is a comparable group,
Speaker 1: But I mean in terms of their accolades too. I mean,
Speaker 1: first round pick for Lewis, second rounder was Lance Kendricks.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham's a five time pro bowler. There is a
Speaker 1: lot of experience, a lot of accomplishments among that group. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the interesting comments that McCarthy had, I thought
Speaker 1: in talking about Louis, because you know, Mike McCarthy likes
Speaker 1: tight ends, he talks about that all the time. And
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, this is the guy who can block
Speaker 1: any defensive end in the league. Now, we would not
Speaker 1: specifically talking about necessarily protecting the quarterback, but in terms
Speaker 1: of blocking setting the edge for the running game, you know,
Speaker 1: being able to do something on the edge against against
Speaker 1: a defensive end with the running game with with the
Speaker 1: tight end, which then obviously frees up other linemen for
Speaker 1: for other assignments on the second level things like that.
Speaker 1: I think a guy like Lewis, I think McCarthy has
Speaker 1: wanted a tight end like this for a while. It's
Speaker 1: a big reason they brought in Martellis Bennett last year.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out, but his blocking ability was definitely
Speaker 1: something that attracted the Packers to that acquisition, and I
Speaker 1: think it's what it's what attracted them to Marcedes Lewis.
Speaker 1: They're they're given another shot here and um and I
Speaker 1: know McCarthy is excited about it. And let's be honest too.
Speaker 1: I mean, Mercedes Lewis has been in Jacksonville for twelve years.
Speaker 1: He was a former first round pick and they remained
Speaker 1: committed through him, through other coaches, changes, different schemes, different
Speaker 1: running backs. He was the constant. He started all sixteen
Speaker 1: games last year. I think this year they felt a need,
Speaker 1: a desire to get a bit younger at that position,
Speaker 1: but certainly he did not wear out his welcome by
Speaker 1: any means. This is a guy that I think they
Speaker 1: hold in very high regard in Jacksonville. Now he gets
Speaker 1: a chance to try something different, to get in a
Speaker 1: different scheme, to see what he can bring to this offense.
Speaker 1: I think we haven't at the time in which we're
Speaker 1: taping this, we haven't had a chance to talk to
Speaker 1: him yet. But based on his Instagram account and just
Speaker 1: the excitement in signing that contract, you can tell this
Speaker 1: is something that has rejuvenated him a little bit. And
Speaker 1: now coming to Green Bay, getting the opportunity to be
Speaker 1: in that room with Jimmy Graham and Lance Kendricks, I'm
Speaker 1: really interested to see what it develops from it. And
Speaker 1: and Brian Angelico. You go to his track record of
Speaker 1: developing tight ends and you know, the Gary Barnages of
Speaker 1: the world. Absolutely, he has three remarkable athletes to work
Speaker 1: with now and also being able to teach those different concepts,
Speaker 1: whether it is as an inline tight end or splitting
Speaker 1: these guys out wide, just a lot of versatility. And
Speaker 1: then also for those young guys, the emmanual birds in
Speaker 1: that room, a lot of guys to learn from as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: another interesting aspect with the addition of Louis because he knows,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a realist, he knows he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of years left in this league as long
Speaker 1: as he has played, but last year he came oh
Speaker 1: so close to getting to a super Bowl, and uh
Speaker 1: and again that different types of motivations for different players,
Speaker 1: but you've got to believe that is a huge motivator
Speaker 1: for him right now at this stage of his career.
Speaker 1: And then coming to a team with Aaron Rodgers, and
Speaker 1: how many times did he have to go through a
Speaker 1: rebuild in Jacksonville. Now, they did make the playoffs with
Speaker 1: Jack del Rio. I think it was in two thousand
Speaker 1: seven or two thousand eight. Been a while ago, but
Speaker 1: I mean to go through all those losing seasons and
Speaker 1: now having the chance to get that close, he keeps
Speaker 1: him right in that race now and and certainly by
Speaker 1: no measure, I mean, this is the most accomplished quarterback
Speaker 1: he's going to be working with now to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: So trying to put all that together, you have to
Speaker 1: put it out on the field. We'll have to see
Speaker 1: what happens in training camp. But you do have to
Speaker 1: like the signing because of how he compliments the other
Speaker 1: pieces in that room. Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to another break back with more and
Speaker 1: Packers unscripted. Right after this, Welcome back to Packers unscripted.
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford here, West Hodko, it's over there, West shifting
Speaker 1: gears to the defensive side of the ball. We talked
Speaker 1: before as we got into O T A S here
Speaker 1: with the Packers about this is the installation phase of
Speaker 1: the off season. They're installing the playbooks, both on offense
Speaker 1: and defense. There's been some changes obviously on the offensive side,
Speaker 1: the bigger change on the defensive side with a new coordinator,
Speaker 1: a whole new system that Mike petton Is is putting in.
Speaker 1: Just to kind of, I guess, explain how this process
Speaker 1: works a little bit, Mike McCarthy talked about how right
Speaker 1: now in O T A S. This is actually the
Speaker 1: third time that the players are going through the installation
Speaker 1: now the first time really UM at this level in
Speaker 1: the eleven on eleven setting on the field during O
Speaker 1: T A workouts offense versus defense, but they go through
Speaker 1: a whole installation in the classroom, and then they do
Speaker 1: another whole installation of the playbook and sort of a
Speaker 1: walk through, jog through setting without anybody on offense on
Speaker 1: the other side, but the defensive players UM going through
Speaker 1: a walkthrough setting. So this is sort of installation number
Speaker 1: three in uh in the sequence, and then training camp
Speaker 1: in essence becomes another review and and installation number four.
Speaker 1: So it's there's a lot of repetition to this, but
Speaker 1: in different settings that allow the players to to process
Speaker 1: everything in the playbook in different ways. You know, I
Speaker 1: kind of think of it as like a musical or
Speaker 1: a play. I know, you over the years in the
Speaker 1: history the work that goes into it to memorize the
Speaker 1: lines and the scenes and everything like that, and then
Speaker 1: you have the performance and I think ultimately that that
Speaker 1: final performances training camp, that's where the packers are trying
Speaker 1: to get to. That's not to say it's going to
Speaker 1: be perfect, but it's that you're prepared and you can
Speaker 1: hit the ground running once July comes around. Uh yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of veterans here that I
Speaker 1: think are still gonna have to, you know, learn some
Speaker 1: new terminology and learn some new things. But it's really
Speaker 1: for those younger players on the roster to understand what
Speaker 1: Mike Petton is going to be asking of them and
Speaker 1: exactly how are gonna have to be utilized because I
Speaker 1: think for even guys like Clay Matthews and Mike Daniels,
Speaker 1: they've been in the league so long, they've seen so
Speaker 1: many different concepts. By now they've said there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some terminology changing. But for the most part, football's football.
Speaker 1: It's these young guys now who have not been in
Speaker 1: the offensive defensive scheme so far that have to see
Speaker 1: that jump from the college level to the pros. And
Speaker 1: that's what these three orientations, whatever you wanna call it,
Speaker 1: really come down to. Yeah, and that's the added challenge
Speaker 1: for the rookies because they miss some of that initial
Speaker 1: classroom work and some of that walk through and jog
Speaker 1: through work simply because they're not here yet. And they
Speaker 1: go through their rookie orientation just getting acclimated to how
Speaker 1: the Packers practice, what the day is structured like for
Speaker 1: the in terms of the meetings and the practice field
Speaker 1: and when you eat your meals and and all of
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So then when they start going
Speaker 1: through the installations, the veteran players, even when it's a
Speaker 1: brand new system like Mike Patton's, the veteran players already
Speaker 1: have a bit of a headstart on them. So that's
Speaker 1: where the challenges for the rookies to try to absorb
Speaker 1: as much as they can between now and the end
Speaker 1: of Mini camp, and they'll have some days. Certainly in
Speaker 1: mini camp there's usually a review day where the veterans
Speaker 1: are excused and the rookies, so the practice is solely
Speaker 1: focused on the rookies and the younger players, but to
Speaker 1: try to absorb as much as they can so then
Speaker 1: after the break when they come back at the start
Speaker 1: of training camp, they're not quite as far behind as
Speaker 1: they were when they first got here. Right, you're a
Speaker 1: pretty big baseball fan, right, I think there's that one
Speaker 1: gimmick one of the teams does, like where it's catch
Speaker 1: the freeze or catch the flash or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: where the guy you give the fan the running head
Speaker 1: start and then the guy comes around and just laps
Speaker 1: him pretty much the first you know, goes around the outfield.
Speaker 1: I kind of look at that a little bit like
Speaker 1: with the veterans in the rookies, and I think a
Speaker 1: good example of that is like Justin mccrai. Again last year,
Speaker 1: he signed on March twenty nine, so he had two
Speaker 1: or three weeks to kind of get ahead start in
Speaker 1: all those incoming rookies he got that, and he held
Speaker 1: them off throughout that. A lot of times you get
Speaker 1: those guys that have that experience. It's about how quickly
Speaker 1: those rookies can close the gap. Some are able to
Speaker 1: do it, some ow't, But whatever the case may be,
Speaker 1: it is really about making sure that you're ready, you're
Speaker 1: good to go once July rolls around, because that's when
Speaker 1: the coaches are expecting not exactly perfection, because again, there's
Speaker 1: always gonna be some room for error. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: an understanding that everyone's human. But knowing what your assignments are,
Speaker 1: knowing what that playbook is, and being able to keep
Speaker 1: pace with those installs because now it's real. Now you've
Speaker 1: got twenty practices, practices until the games matter. And I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the ultimate thing for these young
Speaker 1: guys coming in is understanding that the one thing they
Speaker 1: have going for him though the fact that they got
Speaker 1: rid of that college rule that no longer requires like
Speaker 1: players on the West Coast trimesters to be the guys
Speaker 1: on the different that the guys on the different college calendars.
Speaker 1: They don't have to stay away anymore, and that's if
Speaker 1: they don't have the degree. So they're here now. So
Speaker 1: that's the nice thing. You have ninety players, see, you
Speaker 1: know who the best man may win. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: mentioned the coaches have the expectations come training camp. The
Speaker 1: veteran players also do as well, the Aaron Rodgers, the
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews, the Mike Daniels of the world. It's like, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're not waiting around anymore. This isn't time to learn.
Speaker 1: This is time to go. This is time to get
Speaker 1: ready to play football in September. And I think Kenny
Speaker 1: Clarkler there, remember that with Mike Daniels when he came
Speaker 1: out during Daniels is barking and hollowing. The game changes
Speaker 1: once those training camp practices started. Yeah, no question about it.
Speaker 1: With that, we'll go to a breakback with more on
Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford alongside West, Hod Kitwits and West. Before we go,
Speaker 1: there are times on the show where we have talked
Speaker 1: about the power of social media and how it changes
Speaker 1: our perceptions of the world. We find out things that
Speaker 1: we probably otherwise never would have known about. And there
Speaker 1: was a little uh story along those lines that happened
Speaker 1: this past week with packers running back Aaron Jones. I'll
Speaker 1: let you fill everybody in, Well, this is it's fun
Speaker 1: about this. Mike McCarthy even said it. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's one thing for the public to see the sides
Speaker 1: of these people, but you know a lot of times
Speaker 1: when you work behind the scenes or you know them,
Speaker 1: it's not a surprise at all. I kind of get
Speaker 1: that feeling already because of just all the stories I've
Speaker 1: done on Aaron Jones and how many family members I've
Speaker 1: talked to and friends I've talked to about him, But
Speaker 1: this did not surprise me at all. The story, the
Speaker 1: background of it is he was flying back into Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Mind you, he was getting in a day early too
Speaker 1: for O T A S. So he wasn't gonna risk out,
Speaker 1: you know, potential plane delay. He was getting in a
Speaker 1: nice two days early. Um, and he was I'm presumed,
Speaker 1: going back to his car from the Appleton Airport or
Speaker 1: you know whatever the connection maybe, And there was an
Speaker 1: older lady there that that was in a wheelchair and
Speaker 1: and you know, if you know airports, usually guys will
Speaker 1: come around like workers will come around and push them.
Speaker 1: But she didn't have anybody to help her. I'm presume
Speaker 1: after she got off her flight, Aaron Jones stepped up
Speaker 1: and pushed her that destination. Unbeknownst to him, there was
Speaker 1: evidently a packer fan because they identified him as Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones that was sitting in the airport and flashed a
Speaker 1: quick picture of him. Uh And and you know, just
Speaker 1: a very small form of generosity. Obviously it didn't require
Speaker 1: much from him, but for him to step up in
Speaker 1: that way, I think says a lot about him. And
Speaker 1: if you know anything about his upbringing, his parents background
Speaker 1: in the military and military family, that's the way him
Speaker 1: and his twin brother, Alvin Jr. Were raised. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: absolutely were. And that's that's what I like about these
Speaker 1: types of stories. Because Aaron Jones didn't take the picture
Speaker 1: and he didn't do what he did because he's a
Speaker 1: Green Bay packer. He did what he did because he's
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. And that's that is just who he is
Speaker 1: and and his upbringing and and you know the military, um,
Speaker 1: you know, the discipline and and everything that goes along
Speaker 1: with that. Just how he was raised by by his parents.
Speaker 1: And as you said, you've talked to his twin brother.
Speaker 1: You've talked to others involved in the family, there's Uh,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of stories I think about Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones that we don't even know about that are probably
Speaker 1: very similar to this that that you know, without somebody
Speaker 1: snapping that picture and putting it out on on social media,
Speaker 1: we'd never know about it. And Aaron Jones would be
Speaker 1: totally fine with that. He's gonna he's getting some attention
Speaker 1: for this now, probably doesn't want it necessarily, but he'll
Speaker 1: also take it in stride. He's also and we've only
Speaker 1: been around him for one year now, but I think,
Speaker 1: in my opinion he ranks right up there as far
Speaker 1: as being one of the most genuine players you're going
Speaker 1: to be around. Aaron Jones. Not to say this is
Speaker 1: a case with a lot of people, but I mean
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, when the camera goes on, the camera goes off,
Speaker 1: he's the same guy. He's very gregarious. Uh. I wun't
Speaker 1: say necessarily outgoing. I think he's slightly introverted, but a
Speaker 1: very positive and you know, cooperative dude. I think you
Speaker 1: could ask any beat writer that just really goes about
Speaker 1: his way, um understands the job that's required of him,
Speaker 1: what's expected of him, uh and and lives up to that.
Speaker 1: And he just also happens to be a pretty heck
Speaker 1: of a good football player too. Yeah, where do you
Speaker 1: think his second season is going? Because I thought, I mean,
Speaker 1: for as much promises Jamal Williams show, and you know,
Speaker 1: we haven't necessarily seen a whole lot of Davante Maze yet.
Speaker 1: But in terms of those three rookie running backs that
Speaker 1: came in last year, if you give me one word
Speaker 1: to describe Aaron Jones that maybe separates him from the
Speaker 1: other two, the word to me is explosive. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say the same thing, And I'm really curious to
Speaker 1: see just where his second season goes here with the Packers.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking to so many people, Mike will
Speaker 1: Hernandez among them. At the NFL scouting comment. Everybody uses
Speaker 1: that word to describe him. It's just it's so it
Speaker 1: goes with his style. That's just his style. He's explosive.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great battle. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be the best position camp battle that the Packers have
Speaker 1: um and all three of those guys tie him, Montgomer included,
Speaker 1: are going to have roles on this team, But who's
Speaker 1: going to be the guy that can be counted on
Speaker 1: for all three downs that they can roll with in
Speaker 1: a in a key too minute situation. That's what you'r
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones needs to rise up to right now because
Speaker 1: the talent is obviously there. Yeah, and when the Packers
Speaker 1: get into that no huddle and stuff like that, they
Speaker 1: want to have that one guy on the field for
Speaker 1: all the place. But with that, we're gonna sign off
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