1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my trusted colleague 3 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. We have to begin this 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: show talking about magic numbers, because three hundred is a 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: pretty good batting average for a baseball player. It's a 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: perfect game in bowling. It's a pretty good day passing 8 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: for a quarterback. Three passing yards. This is our three 9 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: hundredth episode of Packers Unscripted. Congratulations, my friends, Thank you Michael. 10 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: We hit number three hundred, you know, And it was 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: one of those things that when you every great show 12 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: starts up, done, Smoke Seinfeld, whatever it is you hope 13 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: to someday reach those milestones. One hundred, two hundred and 14 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: here we are Packers on scripted and we did it 15 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: in just two years. Three al right, Well, it's uh 16 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: three hundred half hours of my life. I didn't get back. 17 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: I guess that's one way to look at it anyway. 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, my friend. Um, but we have another 19 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: piece of news to talk about here, because since our 20 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: last show, the Packers added yet another veteran player in 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: UH I guess what you call the late free agency 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: period here in offensive lineman Byron Bell, most recently of 23 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, now a Green Bay Packer and a 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: guy who depending as we've talked about on the recovery 25 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: of Brian Bulaga from his a c L injury from 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: last season, this is a guy who could be in 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: the mix to compete for a starting spot at right 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: tackle for Week one. Could be in the mixes started 29 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: a different bunch of different positions. He's played guard in 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: the past as well, going back to his time with 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. I think he started seven games at 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: guard that year. He played bolth spots and when he 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: started in Carolina. A very experienced guy still only twenty 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: nine years old, six ft five pounds, certainly passed the 35 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: eye test in that regarden. He's a guy to the 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: Packers have had interested in the past. I mean I 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: wrote about this in the five Things to Know about 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: him story on Packers dot Com. He was in for 39 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: a visit last year right before I think it were 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: right after the free agency started. A week later, he 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: ends up signing with Dallas, where he backed up Tyron Smith. 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: Last year at left tackle and made two spots starts, 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: so a wealth of experience. Has started seventy four career 44 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: regular season games out of the ninety that he's played. 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: So this is a guy that came in as an 46 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent with the with the Panthers in two 47 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: thousand eleven and ended up starting twelve games for him 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: right away, the first one of those being against the Packers. 49 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: So he's been in the league for a long time, 50 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: knows all the tricks, and now he's gonna see what 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: he adds to all these competitions. Yeah, an undrafted guy 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: who definitely is has made his way in this league, 53 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, became a starter fairly early on with 54 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: with Carolina. Yeah, and you wonder, and I don't know 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: this this this is just me speculating a little bit, 56 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: but with him coming in for a visit last year 57 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: as a potential free agent coming into Green Bay for 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: a visit, you wonder if the Packers were looking at 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: him potentially as a starter at guard, because that would 60 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: have been before Jarry Evans had signed, because Evans didn't 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: sign until closer to the draft at the end of April. 62 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: So um, nonetheless a player the packers have had their 63 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: eye on a little bit and UH and an opportunity 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: to bring him in. If he is going to compete 65 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: at right tackle, it'll be Jason Spriggs, Kyle Murphy, those 66 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: guys we've talked about. I also look at this move 67 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: because we talked about Justin McCrae on our last show. 68 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: I think this is another move potentially that sends an 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: even stronger signal that Justin McCrae is going to get 70 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: the bulk of his work at guard and get an 71 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to start at guard there because you're bringing in 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: a guy who the majority of his experience in the 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: NFL is at tackle. When I worked at McDonald's, this 74 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: is going back many years now, fourteen years ago, not 75 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: as many as you think. Go ahead. When I started there, 76 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: they put me on everything. I was working fries, I 77 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: was working drive through, front desk, cleaning the parking lot, 78 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: whatever they needed me to do. Eventually I settled it 79 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: is the morning cook and that was the position that 80 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: I played for a number of years. You're the egg 81 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: McMuffin guy exactly. And I look at the Justin mccraie 82 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: is a very similar situation. This is a guy that 83 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: played all over the place. Last year, James Campin taught 84 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: him how to play center. He never played center before. 85 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: He was a natural right guard, but he ended up 86 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: starting however, many games that was at right tackle. They 87 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: saw a lot they liked in Justin mccraige. But it 88 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: is probably time for him now to settle in and 89 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: focus on one position because at the end of the day, 90 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: the job is always the same, that the goals are 91 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: always the same. These guys want to start in this league, 92 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: and I think everybody would agree. Justin mccraige's best chance 93 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: to be a long term starter is probably going to 94 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: be at the guard position. Packers drafted two tackles two 95 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: years ago, Jason Spriggs who has made a big change 96 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: in his body, Kyle Murphy coming back off injury, and 97 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: Brian blog is one of the best there is at 98 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: right tackle. So a lot of things have to get 99 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: shuffled out there. What you get though, and Byron Bell 100 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: now is a player, a veteran that comes in and 101 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: can fill in a number of different spots and really 102 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: compete to push all those other guys that are now 103 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, get a hold on a roster spot. Yeah, 104 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: and For all the trouble the Packers had last year 105 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: with getting settled on the offensive line, it was nobody's fault. 106 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: Injuries happened. Guys are shuffling around, moving around. If there's 107 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: a benefit to it, it's certainly the experience that guy's got, 108 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: because we don't know how this roster is going to 109 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: shake out, how the depth chart is going to shake 110 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: out at the end of training camp in the preseason. 111 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: But you just look at all these guys were talking 112 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: about McCrae, Lucas Patrick, Jason Spriggs, Kyle Murphy, Byron Bell. 113 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: Whoever ends up starting whoever, and you know, and this again, 114 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: assuming Brian bulag is not back for Week one, which 115 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: there's always a chance that he could be, but whoever 116 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: ends up starting Week one, and whoever ends up being 117 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: the backups at the start of the season, everybody's played. Now, 118 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: these guys have experience, they've been they've been there and 119 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: done that at least a little bit. And that's gonna 120 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: matter if potentially more injuries strike down the road, because 121 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: look at Justin McCrae. I mean, this is a guy 122 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: that was a long shot to make the roster last year. 123 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: He ends up kind of getting his foot in the 124 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: door as a backup center. It's really the only position 125 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: he ended up not playing during the season. Lucas Patrick 126 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: was a fringe guy who ended up making the roster. 127 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: You don't know what the roster is gonna look like 128 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: by the end of August, but you can prepare for 129 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: different scenarios. I think this is another thing the Packers 130 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: are doing to really give themselves that kind of cushion. Yeah, 131 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. With that, we're going to go 132 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: to a break back with more on Packers Unscripted right 133 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in 134 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: this chair, Wes Hodkowits in that one, and West. We 135 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: ended the last segment talking about experience and depth that 136 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: the Packers are are starting to develop here on what 137 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: appears to be the right side of the offensive line. 138 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: There's another position that the Packers probably have more experience, 139 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: maybe than they've ever had at this stage, and I'm 140 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: talking about tight End. We we discussed the edition of 141 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: Marcedes Lewis in our last episode, but when you look 142 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,119 Speaker 1: at the tight End group as a whole, you've got 143 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: the young guys, Emmanuel Bird, Robert Tony and a couple 144 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: of other young guys who are trying to make their way. 145 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: But the three guys at the top of the depth 146 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: chart right now and whatever order you want to put 147 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: him in, Jimmy Graham, Lance Kendricks, Marcedes Lewis. That's an 148 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: awfully experienced group that has a lot of games under 149 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: their belt in this league. Yeah, over thirty years of 150 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: experience all told there. And I think the thing about that, really, 151 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to say, stung me the most about 152 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: the Mercedes Lewis signing is the really the reality afterwards 153 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: that yeah, you already do have Jimmy Graham, what nine 154 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: years and in now, uh, Lance Kendricks with seven or 155 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: eight under his belt, and now you get Louis coming 156 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: in and and obviously still playing at a high level 157 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: at thirty four and year thirteen. So it's gonna be 158 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: interesting to watch all these these chips fall. But the 159 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: fact that they have as many moving pieces as they have, 160 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy addressed it when he met with the 161 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: media on Thursday morning, they're gonna be able to do 162 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: from tip types of things now with Jimmy Graham, the 163 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: versatility and how they're gonna be able to use these 164 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: guys around in the you know, really the different pieces 165 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: that they have to work with in those two tight 166 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: end packages. It's gonna be something he's never really had before. 167 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: You know, I honestly was, you know, wrapping my brain 168 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: around it too. I mean, I would say it's probably 169 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: what the late nineties, since Shimura, Keith Jackson, maybe Tyrone 170 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: Davis or Tyrone Davis. Yeah, maybe that is a comparable group, 171 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: But I mean in terms of their accolades too. I mean, 172 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: first round pick for Lewis, second rounder was Lance Kendricks. 173 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham's a five time pro bowler. There is a 174 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: lot of experience, a lot of accomplishments among that group. Yeah. 175 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: One of the interesting comments that McCarthy had, I thought 176 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: in talking about Louis, because you know, Mike McCarthy likes 177 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: tight ends, he talks about that all the time. And 178 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, this is the guy who can block 179 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: any defensive end in the league. Now, we would not 180 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: specifically talking about necessarily protecting the quarterback, but in terms 181 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: of blocking setting the edge for the running game, you know, 182 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: being able to do something on the edge against against 183 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: a defensive end with the running game with with the 184 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: tight end, which then obviously frees up other linemen for 185 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: for other assignments on the second level things like that. 186 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: I think a guy like Lewis, I think McCarthy has 187 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: wanted a tight end like this for a while. It's 188 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: a big reason they brought in Martellis Bennett last year. 189 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: It didn't work out, but his blocking ability was definitely 190 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: something that attracted the Packers to that acquisition, and I 191 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: think it's what it's what attracted them to Marcedes Lewis. 192 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: They're they're given another shot here and um and I 193 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: know McCarthy is excited about it. And let's be honest too. 194 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Mercedes Lewis has been in Jacksonville for twelve years. 195 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: He was a former first round pick and they remained 196 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: committed through him, through other coaches, changes, different schemes, different 197 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: running backs. He was the constant. He started all sixteen 198 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: games last year. I think this year they felt a need, 199 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: a desire to get a bit younger at that position, 200 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: but certainly he did not wear out his welcome by 201 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: any means. This is a guy that I think they 202 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: hold in very high regard in Jacksonville. Now he gets 203 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: a chance to try something different, to get in a 204 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: different scheme, to see what he can bring to this offense. 205 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: I think we haven't at the time in which we're 206 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: taping this, we haven't had a chance to talk to 207 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: him yet. But based on his Instagram account and just 208 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: the excitement in signing that contract, you can tell this 209 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: is something that has rejuvenated him a little bit. And 210 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: now coming to Green Bay, getting the opportunity to be 211 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: in that room with Jimmy Graham and Lance Kendricks, I'm 212 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: really interested to see what it develops from it. And 213 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: and Brian Angelico. You go to his track record of 214 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: developing tight ends and you know, the Gary Barnages of 215 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: the world. Absolutely, he has three remarkable athletes to work 216 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: with now and also being able to teach those different concepts, 217 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: whether it is as an inline tight end or splitting 218 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: these guys out wide, just a lot of versatility. And 219 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: then also for those young guys, the emmanual birds in 220 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: that room, a lot of guys to learn from as well. Yeah, 221 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: another interesting aspect with the addition of Louis because he knows, 222 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a realist, he knows he doesn't have 223 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: a lot of years left in this league as long 224 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: as he has played, but last year he came oh 225 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: so close to getting to a super Bowl, and uh 226 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: and again that different types of motivations for different players, 227 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: but you've got to believe that is a huge motivator 228 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: for him right now at this stage of his career. 229 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: And then coming to a team with Aaron Rodgers, and 230 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: how many times did he have to go through a 231 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: rebuild in Jacksonville. Now, they did make the playoffs with 232 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: Jack del Rio. I think it was in two thousand 233 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: seven or two thousand eight. Been a while ago, but 234 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean to go through all those losing seasons and 235 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: now having the chance to get that close, he keeps 236 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: him right in that race now and and certainly by 237 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: no measure, I mean, this is the most accomplished quarterback 238 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: he's going to be working with now to Aaron Rodgers. 239 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: So trying to put all that together, you have to 240 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: put it out on the field. We'll have to see 241 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: what happens in training camp. But you do have to 242 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: like the signing because of how he compliments the other 243 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: pieces in that room. Yeah, I would agree with that. 244 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to another break back with more and 245 00:11:42,880 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: Packers unscripted. Right after this, Welcome back to Packers unscripted. 246 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: Mike Spofford here, West Hodko, it's over there, West shifting 247 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: gears to the defensive side of the ball. We talked 248 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: before as we got into O T A S here 249 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: with the Packers about this is the installation phase of 250 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: the off season. They're installing the playbooks, both on offense 251 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: and defense. There's been some changes obviously on the offensive side, 252 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: the bigger change on the defensive side with a new coordinator, 253 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: a whole new system that Mike petton Is is putting in. 254 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: Just to kind of, I guess, explain how this process 255 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: works a little bit, Mike McCarthy talked about how right 256 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: now in O T A S. This is actually the 257 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: third time that the players are going through the installation 258 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: now the first time really UM at this level in 259 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: the eleven on eleven setting on the field during O 260 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: T A workouts offense versus defense, but they go through 261 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: a whole installation in the classroom, and then they do 262 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: another whole installation of the playbook and sort of a 263 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: walk through, jog through setting without anybody on offense on 264 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: the other side, but the defensive players UM going through 265 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: a walkthrough setting. So this is sort of installation number 266 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: three in uh in the sequence, and then training camp 267 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: in essence becomes another review and and installation number four. 268 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: So it's there's a lot of repetition to this, but 269 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: in different settings that allow the players to to process 270 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: everything in the playbook in different ways. You know, I 271 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: kind of think of it as like a musical or 272 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: a play. I know, you over the years in the 273 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: history the work that goes into it to memorize the 274 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: lines and the scenes and everything like that, and then 275 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: you have the performance and I think ultimately that that 276 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: final performances training camp, that's where the packers are trying 277 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: to get to. That's not to say it's going to 278 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: be perfect, but it's that you're prepared and you can 279 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: hit the ground running once July comes around. Uh yeah. 280 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of veterans here that I 281 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: think are still gonna have to, you know, learn some 282 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: new terminology and learn some new things. But it's really 283 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: for those younger players on the roster to understand what 284 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: Mike Petton is going to be asking of them and 285 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: exactly how are gonna have to be utilized because I 286 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: think for even guys like Clay Matthews and Mike Daniels, 287 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: they've been in the league so long, they've seen so 288 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: many different concepts. By now they've said there's gonna be 289 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: some terminology changing. But for the most part, football's football. 290 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: It's these young guys now who have not been in 291 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: the offensive defensive scheme so far that have to see 292 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: that jump from the college level to the pros. And 293 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: that's what these three orientations, whatever you wanna call it, 294 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: really come down to. Yeah, and that's the added challenge 295 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: for the rookies because they miss some of that initial 296 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: classroom work and some of that walk through and jog 297 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: through work simply because they're not here yet. And they 298 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: go through their rookie orientation just getting acclimated to how 299 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: the Packers practice, what the day is structured like for 300 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: the in terms of the meetings and the practice field 301 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: and when you eat your meals and and all of 302 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So then when they start going 303 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: through the installations, the veteran players, even when it's a 304 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: brand new system like Mike Patton's, the veteran players already 305 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: have a bit of a headstart on them. So that's 306 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: where the challenges for the rookies to try to absorb 307 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: as much as they can between now and the end 308 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: of Mini camp, and they'll have some days. Certainly in 309 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: mini camp there's usually a review day where the veterans 310 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: are excused and the rookies, so the practice is solely 311 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: focused on the rookies and the younger players, but to 312 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: try to absorb as much as they can so then 313 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: after the break when they come back at the start 314 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: of training camp, they're not quite as far behind as 315 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: they were when they first got here. Right, you're a 316 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: pretty big baseball fan, right, I think there's that one 317 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: gimmick one of the teams does, like where it's catch 318 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: the freeze or catch the flash or whatever it is, 319 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: where the guy you give the fan the running head 320 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: start and then the guy comes around and just laps 321 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: him pretty much the first you know, goes around the outfield. 322 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: I kind of look at that a little bit like 323 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: with the veterans in the rookies, and I think a 324 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: good example of that is like Justin mccrai. Again last year, 325 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: he signed on March twenty nine, so he had two 326 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: or three weeks to kind of get ahead start in 327 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: all those incoming rookies he got that, and he held 328 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: them off throughout that. A lot of times you get 329 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: those guys that have that experience. It's about how quickly 330 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: those rookies can close the gap. Some are able to 331 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: do it, some ow't, But whatever the case may be, 332 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: it is really about making sure that you're ready, you're 333 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: good to go once July rolls around, because that's when 334 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: the coaches are expecting not exactly perfection, because again, there's 335 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: always gonna be some room for error. There's gonna be 336 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: an understanding that everyone's human. But knowing what your assignments are, 337 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: knowing what that playbook is, and being able to keep 338 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: pace with those installs because now it's real. Now you've 339 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: got twenty practices, practices until the games matter. And I 340 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the ultimate thing for these young 341 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: guys coming in is understanding that the one thing they 342 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: have going for him though the fact that they got 343 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: rid of that college rule that no longer requires like 344 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: players on the West Coast trimesters to be the guys 345 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: on the different that the guys on the different college calendars. 346 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: They don't have to stay away anymore, and that's if 347 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: they don't have the degree. So they're here now. So 348 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: that's the nice thing. You have ninety players, see, you 349 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: know who the best man may win. Yeah, and you 350 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: mentioned the coaches have the expectations come training camp. The 351 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: veteran players also do as well, the Aaron Rodgers, the 352 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: Clay Matthews, the Mike Daniels of the world. It's like, Hey, 353 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: we're not waiting around anymore. This isn't time to learn. 354 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: This is time to go. This is time to get 355 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: ready to play football in September. And I think Kenny 356 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: Clarkler there, remember that with Mike Daniels when he came 357 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: out during Daniels is barking and hollowing. The game changes 358 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: once those training camp practices started. Yeah, no question about it. 359 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: With that, we'll go to a breakback with more on 360 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted 361 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: Mike Spofford alongside West, Hod Kitwits and West. Before we go, 362 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: there are times on the show where we have talked 363 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: about the power of social media and how it changes 364 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: our perceptions of the world. We find out things that 365 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: we probably otherwise never would have known about. And there 366 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: was a little uh story along those lines that happened 367 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: this past week with packers running back Aaron Jones. I'll 368 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: let you fill everybody in, Well, this is it's fun 369 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: about this. Mike McCarthy even said it. You know, it's 370 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: it's one thing for the public to see the sides 371 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: of these people, but you know a lot of times 372 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: when you work behind the scenes or you know them, 373 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: it's not a surprise at all. I kind of get 374 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: that feeling already because of just all the stories I've 375 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: done on Aaron Jones and how many family members I've 376 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: talked to and friends I've talked to about him, But 377 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: this did not surprise me at all. The story, the 378 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: background of it is he was flying back into Green Bay. 379 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: Mind you, he was getting in a day early too 380 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: for O T A S. So he wasn't gonna risk out, 381 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, potential plane delay. He was getting in a 382 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: nice two days early. Um, and he was I'm presumed, 383 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: going back to his car from the Appleton Airport or 384 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: you know whatever the connection maybe, And there was an 385 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: older lady there that that was in a wheelchair and 386 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: and you know, if you know airports, usually guys will 387 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: come around like workers will come around and push them. 388 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: But she didn't have anybody to help her. I'm presume 389 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: after she got off her flight, Aaron Jones stepped up 390 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: and pushed her that destination. Unbeknownst to him, there was 391 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: evidently a packer fan because they identified him as Aaron 392 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: Jones that was sitting in the airport and flashed a 393 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: quick picture of him. Uh And and you know, just 394 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: a very small form of generosity. Obviously it didn't require 395 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: much from him, but for him to step up in 396 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: that way, I think says a lot about him. And 397 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: if you know anything about his upbringing, his parents background 398 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: in the military and military family, that's the way him 399 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: and his twin brother, Alvin Jr. Were raised. Yeah, they 400 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: absolutely were. And that's that's what I like about these 401 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 1: types of stories. Because Aaron Jones didn't take the picture 402 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: and he didn't do what he did because he's a 403 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay packer. He did what he did because he's 404 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. And that's that is just who he is 405 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: and and his upbringing and and you know the military, um, 406 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, the discipline and and everything that goes along 407 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: with that. Just how he was raised by by his parents. 408 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: And as you said, you've talked to his twin brother. 409 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: You've talked to others involved in the family, there's Uh, 410 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: there are a lot of stories I think about Aaron 411 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: Jones that we don't even know about that are probably 412 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: very similar to this that that you know, without somebody 413 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: snapping that picture and putting it out on on social media, 414 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: we'd never know about it. And Aaron Jones would be 415 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: totally fine with that. He's gonna he's getting some attention 416 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: for this now, probably doesn't want it necessarily, but he'll 417 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: also take it in stride. He's also and we've only 418 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: been around him for one year now, but I think, 419 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: in my opinion he ranks right up there as far 420 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: as being one of the most genuine players you're going 421 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: to be around. Aaron Jones. Not to say this is 422 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: a case with a lot of people, but I mean 423 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, when the camera goes on, the camera goes off, 424 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: he's the same guy. He's very gregarious. Uh. I wun't 425 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: say necessarily outgoing. I think he's slightly introverted, but a 426 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: very positive and you know, cooperative dude. I think you 427 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: could ask any beat writer that just really goes about 428 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: his way, um understands the job that's required of him, 429 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: what's expected of him, uh and and lives up to that. 430 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: And he just also happens to be a pretty heck 431 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: of a good football player too. Yeah, where do you 432 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: think his second season is going? Because I thought, I mean, 433 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: for as much promises Jamal Williams show, and you know, 434 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: we haven't necessarily seen a whole lot of Davante Maze yet. 435 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: But in terms of those three rookie running backs that 436 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: came in last year, if you give me one word 437 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: to describe Aaron Jones that maybe separates him from the 438 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: other two, the word to me is explosive. I was 439 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: gonna say the same thing, And I'm really curious to 440 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: see just where his second season goes here with the Packers. 441 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking to so many people, Mike will 442 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: Hernandez among them. At the NFL scouting comment. Everybody uses 443 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: that word to describe him. It's just it's so it 444 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: goes with his style. That's just his style. He's explosive. 445 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great battle. I think it's gonna 446 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: be the best position camp battle that the Packers have 447 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: um and all three of those guys tie him, Montgomer included, 448 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: are going to have roles on this team, But who's 449 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: going to be the guy that can be counted on 450 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: for all three downs that they can roll with in 451 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: a in a key too minute situation. That's what you'r 452 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones needs to rise up to right now because 453 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: the talent is obviously there. Yeah, and when the Packers 454 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: get into that no huddle and stuff like that, they 455 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: want to have that one guy on the field for 456 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: all the place. But with that, we're gonna sign off 457 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow 458 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: all of our coverage of the team on Packers dot 459 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: com on Twitter. He's at west Hot, I'm at Mike 460 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: Spofford at Packers for the team account. Than for tuning in, everybody, 461 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. H m hmm.