1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the forty Niners You've Got Mail Podcast 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: sponsored by Man Escaped. I'm Kiana Martin joining you with 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: a very special addition of the forty Niners You've Got 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Mail Podcast. Typically, we're answering fan questions and we have 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: a guest on with us. Well, I'm not only giving 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: you one guest. I'm actually giving you three guests. And 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: instead of answering some questions about the forty Niners and 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: their season and as they're gearing up for training camp, 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: I would love to take this moment to highlight what 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: eight seven Day is On August seven, um celebrating the 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: former forty Niners wide receiver Dwight Clark, who spent his 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: entire nine year career with the forty Niners, which included 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco's first two Super Bowl Championship teams. He's affectionately 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: known for the catch in that two NFC Championship game 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys that when actually propelled the forty 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Niners to their first Super Bowl championship. It's duly noted 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: that at his battle with a l s UH, he 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: fought with it until he passed back in June of eighteen, 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: and since the forty Niners have continued to celebrate d 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: White and both his on and off the field contributions 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: during eight seven Day. So to commemorate the day at 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: training camp, players and coaches will honor Clark by wearing 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: eight seven merchandise, including jerseys and T shirts that you 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: may have seen them wear each year in the past, 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: and Clark's statue at Levi Stadium will be illuminated with 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: special lighting, drawing attention to Clark's immortal place among the 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: forty Niners organization and fan base. Also, stadium video boards 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: will also feature unique eight seven Day messaging where fans 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: can share their DC memories on social media using the 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: hashtag eight seven Day. The Golden Heart Fund the preferred 31 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: charitable cause of Dwight Clark that was created to serve 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: the current and future for de Niners alumni during times 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: of need for financial, medical, psychological, or emotional support, and 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: the forty Niners are also helping raise funds and awareness, 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: advanced research efforts, and pursue public policy initiatives for families 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: of facing a ls SO. In the special podcast, I 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: had the pleasure of sitting down with three people who 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: were very close to Dwight Clark, you might know this guy, 39 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: former forty Niners safety Ronnie Lott. Also for former forty 40 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Niners defensive back John Faylor, and even Dwight Clark's younger brother, 41 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: j D. They all sat down with me to share 42 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 1: incredible stories and memories of Dwight and his legacy as 43 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: a member of the forty Niners. So to get things started. Listening, 44 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: as I begin my conversation sitting down with former forty 45 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: Niners safety Ronnie Lott, the former forty Niners eight time 46 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: All Pro, ten time Pro Bowl safety who actually met 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: Clark during his rookie season with the forty Niners, take 48 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: a listen. I want to just dive right in and ask, 49 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: can you recall the first time meeting Dwight and if so, 50 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: what were your initials of him? Well, the first time 51 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: I met him, um was you know you're here, you 52 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: are you walking in as a rookie, And the first 53 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: time I met him is that you realize that the 54 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: setting of of of just trying to compete, and the 55 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: setting is trying to compete against anybody that's standing in 56 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: front of you, and so you don't really even know 57 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: the guys that are in front of you because you 58 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: don't know him. You you, you, you don't even recognize 59 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: Freddie Solomon. You you don't recognize the White Clark, you 60 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: don't recognize the guys that we had at that time 61 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: playing receiver. And and so what you recognize is that 62 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: you've got a guy in front of you that it's 63 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: pretty big and pretty tall, and and and then what 64 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: you recognize about that young man, especially the white, you 65 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: start to reckon eyes. Oh there's something extra there. And 66 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: the extra is there's something about how he tries. And 67 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: and what I mean by that is that you know, 68 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: in life sometimes one of the great things that I 69 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: love about Jerry Rice, Jerry Rice is the greatest, not 70 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: because he's the best, ever, He's the greatest because he 71 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: tried harder than anyone else. I mean, every day, he 72 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: tried harder than anyone else. And so then all of 73 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: a sudden, you take the White and you and you, 74 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: and you recognize that skill, that talent, and so all 75 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: of a sudden, now I'm starting to get the know 76 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: what eight seven is all about. And all of a sudden, 77 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: now you're meeting him. And now all of a sudden, 78 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: when you meet him, you start to then say Okay, okay, 79 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: So where are you from? And he and then you 80 00:04:54,760 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: start to realize that he's from the South and and 81 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: one of the things that I always man, you mean, 82 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm playing with somebody from you know, a region, that 83 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: maybe how's he looking at me? Because I'm from Cali 84 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: and I've been in California since I was ten, So 85 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you are trying to now figure 86 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: out how you fit. And I think one of the 87 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: great things about the White was right away you could 88 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: tell that getting to know him watching him play, that 89 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: one he was gonna try, but two he was gonna 90 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: welcome you. He was gonna welcome you to be in 91 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: his family. And what I mean by that is that 92 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: we never hung out, but we hung out. And what 93 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean by hanging out is you hang out with 94 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: people that you start to understand all their care characteristics. 95 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: And and the great thing about that group of guys 96 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: is that that year there were a bunch of rookies 97 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: that he was going against. And so imagine him and 98 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: Freddie Solomon going against a bunch of rookies. They never 99 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: they never were arrogant, they were never you know, putting 100 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: themselves above us. What I love was. They were the 101 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: kind of guys that said, hey, I got you, but 102 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: here can how can I help you? I might have 103 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: caught one on you, but how can I help you? 104 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: And I think one of the great things about that 105 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 1: kind of characteristic is that you forget that in winning, 106 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: it's the people who do all the little things that 107 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: you don't even think about. And so for me looking 108 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: back at that relationship and getting to know him and 109 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: understanding him, it was a great pick that old Walsh 110 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: made because the attributes of what Dwight brought to the 111 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: team created an atmosphere that made all of us feel like, 112 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: you know what, Let's try as hard as he can. 113 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: Let's try to do it like him. Let's try to 114 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: work hard. And I think one of the things that 115 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: that he's known for, that he's known for in his 116 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: life is that he tried. When he made that ktch, 117 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: the catch is in is an amazing catch, not because 118 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: it happened, it's it's the effort. And when you go 119 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: watch that ball in the museum and you see where 120 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: it's at on his fingertips, you realize that the effort 121 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: of that moment probably was the same effort that every 122 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: fan gave that particular moment and everybody set there going 123 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: and then when it happened, And so when it happened, 124 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: that changed everybody's life because when it happened, everybody started 125 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: to believe that, you mean, I can do that too, 126 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: and you and people in the streets said I can 127 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: do that too, and people in the neighborhoods were like, hey, 128 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: I can do that too. I remember sitting here in 129 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: this fan after the game. I was driving home in 130 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: the fan and started and I'm like, did I cut 131 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: you off for somebody when we were driving in our 132 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: realize that at that moment the fan was just saying, Hey, 133 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm pumped. I'm just excited and and my pomp and 134 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: my point to you about that is that that's the 135 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: impact that he had on that particular meeting, on a 136 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: particular team, on that year, and on the franchise. I 137 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: love how you said that you guys didn't hang out, 138 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: but you guys hung out. How did your personal relationship 139 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: with Dwight grow and years? Wow? Um, yeah, that's a 140 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: great question, And the reason is a great question. I 141 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: probably spent more time with Dwight after he had played 142 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: the game. I spent more time with him after when 143 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: he had played, not only played, but was now a 144 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: general manager and now working for the Browns, and then 145 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: working for this insurance company, and and and that's when 146 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: I really started to get the no, started to really 147 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: get the no Dwight. So um, It's funny how in 148 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: life sometimes as teammates you don't get to know. I mean, 149 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: there's some great teammates that I've met over the years, 150 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: and and yet sometimes you even get to know them 151 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: until you get to know And what I mean by 152 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: that is sometimes you don't get to know people until 153 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: you get to really know them, when when we all 154 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: are trying to find something, all are trying to find 155 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: a way or a path to kind of make sure 156 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: that we're taking care of each other or helping each 157 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: other or doing certain things in life. So a lot 158 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: of times I always find it in sports, uh uh, 159 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: you could be a teammate for life and you don't 160 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: even realize that you've been a teammate for life. I 161 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: have guys that are in my life right now that 162 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: are from the different teams I play with, and I 163 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: find when they called me up, it's amazing. How we 164 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: can we can buy, we can chat, we can talk. 165 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: We can, we can help each other, we can fellowship 166 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: with each other. We can. And you know, I was 167 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: talking to Randam cutting him the other day and all 168 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden we started talking about church and I 169 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: was like, and my point to you is that moments 170 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: like that make you realize that the huddle is essential 171 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: in life. You know, it's essential in life because you 172 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: learn how to get along, You learn how to find 173 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: ways to disagree to agree, and you find ways too 174 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: sometimes not even understand the guy, but you have to 175 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: learn how to understand them. And my point about those moments, 176 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: it's really productive because, um, you find yourself knowing that, hey, 177 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: i gotta put on another uniform, but I'm still gonna 178 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: be I'm still gonna play, and I'm still gonna do 179 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: all I can to exhaust life. And that's the thing 180 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: that I loved about Dwight at the end, exhausted every moment. 181 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: Let's talk about you personally. You guys built I believe, 182 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: if I'm interpreting this right, even stronger relationship after football. 183 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: What kind of impacts he had on you personally, and 184 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: whether that's through the playing career or post plane groups. Yeah, 185 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: I think one of the great things that he UM 186 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: help me understand, uh is triumph failure in triumph and 187 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: um Um, I think one of the great things about 188 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: that is you know how we fall and how we 189 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: get up, and how we work and how we find 190 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:52,119 Speaker 1: ways two uh continue to evolve. When you have a LS. 191 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: You know, I had another one of my best friends, 192 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: Eric Scoggins, had a LS. And when you have a 193 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: l S and you see people go through a LS, 194 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: you start to understand the essential things of life that sometimes, um, 195 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:20,119 Speaker 1: we take for granted. And um and so the impact 196 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: of just watching somebody try to pick up their hands 197 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: and they don't have the capabilities of of of picking 198 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: up their hands, and and to see those those those 199 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: those things that were your that made you a lot 200 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: of who you were, you know, not to to to 201 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: to to then go dormant. Then you start to realize that, um, 202 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: there's a soul and the both of those guys and 203 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: their soul. You just gotta you gotta, you gotta, you 204 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: gotta understand it, and you gotta think about the soul 205 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: and and and so sometimes I was I was just 206 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: talking to my my kids, says, why why is your 207 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:22,119 Speaker 1: soul sometimes so angry? I'm like, because sometimes you see 208 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: that you're playing with your soul with everything all the time, 209 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: so sometimes you don't realize that your soul is um 210 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: you can be compromised and complicated and and and challenging. 211 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what I to me, what I've learned 212 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: is you know that essence of trying to you know, 213 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: think about the soul of your of of of who 214 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: you are. You brought it up Wilier. Everybody remembers that 215 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: signature football moment you talked about how it's at the 216 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: forty manage see him and people are saying that too, 217 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: But can you speak to me playing out moments that 218 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: maybe he had in the field. Oh yeah, oh yeah, no, 219 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: I remember I remember one game where he had had 220 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: these these these rubber gloves and he was catching everything 221 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: and there were Scooba they were Scooba gloves and and 222 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: I forgot what game was, but I just remember sitting 223 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: there going man and and And my point to you 224 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: is that in sports, the great thing for us is 225 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: that you're not just sitting there watching. At least I'm 226 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: not sitting there watching. I've never sit there to watch. 227 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: I've always sat there to understand and to see and 228 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: to appreciate. And so any of the guys that I 229 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: played with, any guys I played with, man, you know, 230 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: if they made if they made a great play, or 231 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: they did something unbelievable to me, those kind of moments, 232 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, we're spectacular. And so when I saw that 233 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: moment of him had with those school book loves on 234 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: and he was you know, and and and and in 235 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: my point about that is that um sacrifice, sacrifice. It's 236 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: something that we never think about when we think about courage, 237 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: when we think about winning, and that moment wearing those 238 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: gloves and sacrificing and playing in that environment. Again, you know, 239 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: we're playing in Cincinnati or you're playing in any of 240 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: these elements where it's really you know, tough to play 241 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: and and you're trying to you know, find a way 242 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: to win. That's where, again in life, you see people 243 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: do extraordinary things and you see people do things. And 244 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: Dwhite was one of those kind of guys that again, 245 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: when you're a free agent, you're trying every day. As 246 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: he said, man, look I thought I was gonna get cut. 247 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: So he already had the mentality of being able to 248 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: think that I'm gonna get cut. But he didn't. And 249 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: I think one of the great things for all of 250 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: us that I learned about him was that he always thought, 251 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: Who's gonna get cut? It's an element in life sometimes 252 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: that um that even right now some days, man, some days, 253 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: some days I think I'm gonna get cut even now, 254 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: you know. And the reason why you some days you 255 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: think that is that you know things that didn't work 256 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: out that that that day, and they didn't work the 257 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: way you wanted them to work out. And so it's 258 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: the emotion of being cut is a is a is 259 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: a really interesting experience. And and and you know, at 260 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: the end of my career, I remember getting cut, and 261 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: I remember what it felt like getting cut, and I 262 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 1: remember they say, hey, you can't play anymore, and I 263 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, I'm cut, and and and and 264 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: my point to you is that, um, you know, the 265 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: finality of certain moments are are interesting to deal with 266 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: and interesting for all of us to understand. And and again, 267 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: when you think about the white that was the that's 268 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: an one of the great things that I enjoy was 269 00:18:53,359 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: his passion about trying not to get cut. How would 270 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: you define the legacy of Dwight Clark, Well, I would 271 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: define it that I would hope that every Niner fan, 272 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: even in this time, uh and even in this situation, 273 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: that we all find our path of always trying of 274 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: always trying to figure out, um, how to do more, 275 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: how to do more for others, and how to do 276 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: more to two two to survive. Because when you're a 277 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: survivor and you're a free agent, you know that legacy 278 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: to me is about surviving all the years that he survived, 279 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: also the survival of of just so many other things 280 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: that you have to do in your life. So I 281 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: think that the surviving aspect and his legacy of of 282 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: of showing people that you know you can make it, 283 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: you can make it. And to me again, here we 284 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: are in a new an incredible environment and challenging environment, 285 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: and I've had a number of people that when they 286 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: walk up and say, man, don't worry, you got this, 287 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: you start to realize that that survival mentality of you can, 288 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: you can figure this out is something that um that 289 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: permeated within our team, and it permeated to the point 290 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: where in our team that characteristic was something that you know, 291 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: we thrived on that we're gonna survive, We're gonna if 292 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna beat us. You've got to beat us to 293 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: you better bring your your your best stuff to beat us. 294 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: And and I think that that survival of how he 295 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: felt and how he thought about it, it's something that 296 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: permeated with a lot of people because, um, yeah, it's 297 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: one thing to make the catch. It's one thing to 298 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: also make the team. It's one thing to also survive 299 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: into to to exist, it's one thing to always try 300 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: to you know, find yourself doing as much as you 301 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: can for others. And and that's to me, that's something 302 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: that I think that he tried to do with his life. 303 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: I think he tried to give all of that. Now 304 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: you know that obviously we all can't do that, but 305 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: the things that I do take away from him was 306 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: that kind of essence, and especially when he was dealing 307 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: with a l S because that's when you really start 308 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: to pick up on things that you know, some people 309 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: don't see people a certain way when they when they 310 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: play with you, but you you got to see certain 311 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: things when people are not able to show you. They 312 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: can't show you certain things. Because I mean a lot 313 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: of guys that have played football and you you you 314 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: don't see all of the you don't get to see 315 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: all of who they are. I mean, I I love 316 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: watching the Niners, and I love watching the games. You know, 317 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: I show up, but I also know that I don't 318 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: know everybody, and you don't know everything that everybody is 319 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: going through on that team. And so what you do 320 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: try to look for is the people that are learning 321 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: how to survive and and and that's what I thought 322 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: was special about that team last year that they found 323 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: ways to survive and find ways they found ways to 324 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: to survive. I've been very tough elements and they did 325 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: it in New Orleans and they survived in a tough 326 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: element and people were like, oh, they ain't goin this game. 327 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: And they survived and they and they survived taking it 328 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: to them at the end, which again, that's a great 329 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: characteristic to have to survive and still taking it to 330 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: him at the end. I know we were talking a 331 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: little bit earlier and Dwight wasn't the only person that 332 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: was close to you that with a L. S Uh. 333 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: Can you speak to the importance of continuing to support 334 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: organations to help find a cure for a LS like 335 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: the Golden Heart Fund. Yeah, the Golden Heart Fund um 336 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: is an incredible fund that is led by Ron Ferrari 337 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: and and Ron and Joe and Pastor and I are 338 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: doing amazing things. But what's great about that is that, 339 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: like a lot of things in life, all you need 340 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: is a hand up. You just need somebody to pat 341 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: you on your on your rear end and help you 342 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: understand that you just gotta keep going. Um um. So yeah, 343 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: that's a great organization for all the right reasons. Again, 344 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: what's nice about that characteristic is that it embodies Mr 345 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: de Barloon, and it embodies the York family and and 346 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 1: and embodies it because they don't have to do it. 347 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: They don't have to do it, but they understand that 348 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: it's essential to life that sometimes you've got to give 349 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: somebody a hand up. You've got to give people an opportunity, 350 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: and and and and so to me, you know, kudos 351 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: to them for allowing it to exist, because um, those 352 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: kind of characteristics usually are not what people talk about. 353 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: They talk about, you know, the things that they were 354 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: able to accomplish, but they don't talk about the characteristics 355 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: of you giving to others, to sacrifice for others so 356 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: somebody else can stand on their shoulders, and and and 357 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: so the Golden Heart Fund is going to be something 358 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: that for the York family and for Mr de Barlow 359 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: and his family. You know, people are still standing on 360 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: their shoulders and a number of athletes are benefited from it. 361 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: And so I'm excited because every forty nine fan that 362 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: I've met so far that that that's contributed to that, 363 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: they've all said, Hey, that is special. That is I 364 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: like what you're doing. I like how that's happening. I 365 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 1: like what you guys stand for. I love being a 366 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: part of that. And uh, again, it tells me that 367 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: the fan thrives understanding that there's a bigger purpose in life. 368 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: We talked a lot about your experiences on the field 369 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: going against the Scooper gloves. But now finally, as we 370 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: wrap this up, if right now you can speak to Dewight, 371 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: what would you like to say to Well? First of all, 372 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: and I used to crack up because when he had 373 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: that coyote you know, code on and and uh, you know, 374 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: and he he would hang out with Huey Lewis and 375 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: and they were singing and and uh you know, they 376 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: allowed a couple of us to be backup singers and 377 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: and what was great about that moment is that you know, 378 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: he was talking about him to be square and and 379 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: and you think about you think about those kind of 380 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: moments in your life and you realize that, you know, 381 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: we all want to sing, we all want to dance, 382 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: we all want to have fun. But what we all 383 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: want to do it's just just just win and love. 384 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: Just win and love and and and and and being 385 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: around those guys when you were around him, you know that, 386 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: Uh that's what we were able to do, is to 387 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: just win and love. So yeah, that moment, for me, 388 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: looking back on it, something that was off the field, 389 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: something that um, something that clearly I was a pip 390 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: because I couldn't sing, So I knew. I knew that 391 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: I was. I knew the element of while I was there. 392 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: But uh, it was great to be with Dwight and 393 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: Huie and Joe and Ricky and um, you know guys 394 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: who uh just had a love for love. They had 395 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: a love for love man, and and uh that that's 396 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: what's so special about that group of guys, right from 397 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: Eric Wright Too, you know Keena to Lawrence Pillars too, 398 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: Archie Reives too, you know Duyne Board two, h Craig 399 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: Pooky too two has all Reynolds has called Reynolds, And 400 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: what I mean by that is that when you think 401 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: of those names, uh man, the music that they made 402 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: and the way we brought it in the way that 403 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: they played, I'm forever indebted to all of those guys, 404 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: because you know, life is around your relationships and and 405 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: and they're around your coaches and and and and so 406 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: here I am. I'm gonna give a shout out to 407 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: Ray Roads, and I'm gonna give a shout out to 408 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: Ray Roads and George Seafort because they were my first 409 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: two coaches with the forty Niners, and uh so, I 410 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: want to make sure that I acknowledge the guys who 411 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: got me to where I'm at. Manscaped is the official 412 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: below the waste grooming partner of the forty Niners, try 413 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: man escaped and get off and free shipping with code 414 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: forty Niners at manscaped dot com. That's code forty niners 415 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: for off at manscape dot com. That was former forty 416 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: Niners all pro safety Ronnie Lot going back in the 417 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: archives to share some of his favorite memories and lessons 418 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: from Dwight Clark Well. Next up, I learned how Dwight 419 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: was truly a stand up guy. I was joined by 420 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: former forty Niners defensive back and very good friend John Taylor, 421 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: who had a close relationship with Dwight from his playing 422 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: days and beyond, and we also got a good glimpse 423 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: into Dwight's lighthearted personality. Take a listen. I just want 424 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: to know if you can recall your first time meeting 425 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: Dwight and what were your initial impressions of him. Well, 426 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: it was my rookie season in nineteen six and I 427 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: was a free agent. I didn't get drafted, and and 428 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: it was amazing in a short period of time, and 429 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: we were on opposite sides of the ball. But you know, 430 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: Dwight was just he was a gentleman, you know, really 431 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: from the get go, and and you know, I would 432 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: say he kind of took me under his wing a 433 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: little bit, but it was really more his personality, um 434 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: as you know, being somebody that was a real talent 435 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: and you know known in the league. Uh. To take 436 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: a guy that was a free agent and and just 437 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: treat him with kindness. Uh. And in fact, what I 438 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: do remember is the very first night that Bill Walsh 439 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: gave us a break from training camp in Rockland, Dewyte 440 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: and Joe took me to uh uh god, what was 441 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: the Mexican restaurant there in Rockland. But I'll never forget that. 442 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 1: And you know, I was kind of a nobody and 443 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: so to be treated that way, and I will say 444 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: that has continued, uh within the players. And I only 445 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: played a couple of years, but the guys have treated 446 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: me so well and and always appreciate Dwight for doing 447 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: that as well as the rest of the guys. How 448 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: would you say that you're your personal relationship with Dwight 449 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: grew over the years. Well, it's interesting, you know, our 450 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: our relationship was it was, you know, all he played 451 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: a couple of seasons, so the relationship really grew kind 452 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: of after I was done playing. Um. Actually, Dwight and 453 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: I finished the same year. His last year was the 454 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: same as mine. And really what happened is I unfortunately 455 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: I went through a divorce and I had four children, UM, 456 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: and it was really difficult, and Dwight was one of 457 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: those guys that was kind of there for me. And 458 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: then later on Dwight went through the same thing and 459 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: in return, I was there for him because it's very personal, 460 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: very emotional, and very complicated, and that's really kind of 461 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: how it started. And and I kind of helped him 462 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: through his divorce because I had been through it, um 463 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: and I know as personal and it's kind of all football. 464 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: But we really created a bond then and then it continued. Uh, 465 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: it continued all the way until he passed away. Um. 466 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: It was really awesome. We both got remarried. We used 467 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 1: to go Christmas shop and for our wives, and I 468 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: can only tell you Dwight he was. He was more 469 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: like a woman in in a shopping center. I mean, 470 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: he would bargain and we would have to go look 471 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: at five different UH stores for the same item. But 472 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: I always remember that we had a lot of fun. 473 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: He's a stylish guy. He he was stylish. I you know, 474 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: I really didn't know that about him, but you know, 475 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: I have a son that reminds me of that. He 476 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: wants to shop and look at everything. It has to 477 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: be just perfect. But anyway, it was those were great times. 478 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: I think we all remember that with that that iconic coat, yes, 479 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: yes for sure, Yeah, with the fur coat will stand out. 480 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: You know. The the guy that had done that before, 481 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: of course was Joe Nama UH when he won the 482 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl way back in the beginning, So there was 483 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: nobody more perfect for that than Dwight. You know what 484 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: kind of impact has Dwight had on you personally? Well, 485 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, the one thing I say, Dwight, and I 486 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: think one of the things that we shared in common, 487 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: and I gotta believe it was just the way that 488 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: we were raised was to you know, treat people, treat 489 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: people well, treat people with kindness. And and of course, 490 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, Dwight was a celebrity. Uh. And he was 491 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: well known across you know the world for what he accomplished. Uh. 492 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: And he had He was extremely handsome, for sure. And 493 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: and I think really Dwight, when I watched him, how 494 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: he interacted with people. Um, as much of a celebrity 495 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: and as much as these guys that are celebrities as 496 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: athletes get bombarded, the impact from him was just how 497 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: he treated people. UM. And I'll never forget that. Uh. 498 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: And he was very very competitive um and Uh he 499 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: lived life to the fullest uh every day until he 500 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: passed away. And he kept since a humor. So if 501 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: I can do that same thing, uh, and going through 502 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: this with Dwight, UH, it's going to continue to impact me. 503 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 1: Until I die. So obviously everybody remembers that signature football moment, 504 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: the catch, But can you speak to any other moments 505 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: that may have happened, whether it be on the football field, 506 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: on the practice field, something that stands out that you remember, Yeah, 507 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: you know, I would, I would say, um, I would say, 508 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: of course the catch I was. I remember where I 509 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: was for the catch. I think most people remember where 510 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: they were for the catch. But we we were playing 511 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: in Fulton County Stadium in Atlanta, which no longer exists. 512 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: It was torn down, and I think they shared that 513 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: with the Braves. Uh. And we were behind, we were behind, 514 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: we were losing to Atlanta, and I'll never forget on 515 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: the sidelines, Dwight came over to Joe and said, you know, 516 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: let's let's take this game over. And it was one 517 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: of the most amazing things to watch. You know, I 518 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: don't want to stay single handedly, but Joe and Dwight, 519 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: they they had, you know, night or ten grabs between 520 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: the two of them. Uh. And we came back and 521 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: beat Atlanta and it was just really amazing. And to 522 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: watch him go over to Joe and say, hey, let's 523 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: let's do this. It was But I think that was 524 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: normal for those guys. So that's incredible. So why was 525 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: known for his sense of humor in his light hearted nature. 526 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 1: Are there any memories that come to my that might 527 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: be off the football field that you might remember about 528 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: his personality? Yeah? Actually, um, it was it was in 529 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: It was on February tenth, and uh and it was 530 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: it was I was fifty, so it was it was 531 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: seven years ago. Well, it was my birthday. It was 532 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: my fiftieth birthday and the A T and T was 533 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: going on at Pebble Beach and every year they had 534 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: a forty Niners versus the San Francisco Giants. It was 535 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: four players of the forty Niners and four players. I 536 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: was not one of the players, but I caddied, but 537 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: I caddied. I think I caddied for Brent Jones. But 538 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: Dwight was in the group. So we're on in the 539 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: first te box, We're ready to go, and there's there's 540 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: a good five six thousand people lined up on each 541 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: side of the fairway. And remember Brent was awesome. You know, 542 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: Brent was extremely nervous. And I told Brent, I said, Brent, 543 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: I know you got three Super Bowl rings. I'm like 544 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: it's just a little white ball, you know, just relaxed. Well, 545 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: everybody was on the tea box, all the cameras, but 546 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: there was no Dwight. So everyone was like, well, where's Dwight, 547 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: where's Dwight. Well, pretty soon I could see kind of 548 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: the crowd parting over from the tap room and here 549 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: comes Dwight late to the tea box with the margarita 550 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: in his hand. And he got up and everybody harassed him. 551 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: They took a few pictures and then Dwight just strike 552 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: it right down the middle. And and of course on 553 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: that day, which was my birthday, which is makes it 554 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: something I'll never forget. Dwight made a put on the 555 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 1: hole eighteen to beat the giants, for the forty niners 556 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: to beat the giants. And I have a picture somewhere 557 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: in my office of Dwight hugging his wife Kelly, and 558 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: and you could see me holding golf clubs. But he 559 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: he always was just cool. He was always cool, uh 560 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: cool and funny and uh, you know, Dwight was one 561 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: of the best. How would you define the legacy of 562 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: Dwight Clark. Well, I would say, first of all, if 563 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: you know and I think a lot of people know 564 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: his story. Some people don't know about really how he 565 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: came to the forty Niners. Uh. Bill Walsh was looking 566 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: at the quarterback from Clemson and had called the apartment 567 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: where the quarterback left, Steve Fuller, and Dwight was his roommate, 568 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: and so Dwight answered the phone because Steve was in 569 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: the shower, and they started chatting. He said, Hi, this 570 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: is Bill Walsh. That's how they used to do it. Uh, 571 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: this is Bill Walsh and the forty Niners And we 572 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: were gonna come out and and have Steve Drows some 573 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: balls so we could take a look at it. And 574 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: he's like, you know, were you a teammate and he's 575 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: like yeah. He's like what position did you play? And 576 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: Dwight said, I'm a receiver And he said, well, would 577 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: you mind coming out and catching balls so we could 578 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: take a look at Steve and Dwight at his golf bag. 579 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: He was getting ready to go and played golf. He 580 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: thought his career was over at that point. He had 581 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: only had caught eleven passes his senior year. So Dwight said, sure, 582 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: I'll do it. So they went down to the facility 583 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: to have Bill wash look at this quarterback who ended 584 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: up being a first round pick. And when the whole 585 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: session was over, Bill went over and said, hey, Dwight. 586 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: He said, you got a few minutes to watch film? 587 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: And he said, sure, coach, I'll look at film. So 588 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,959 Speaker 1: they went and looked at film and he said, Dwight, 589 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: he said, do you have some highlights you can show me? 590 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: And he said, well, coach, He's like, I only caught 591 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: eleven passes. And he said, well, is there is there 592 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: a video clip in a game where you caught more 593 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: than one passed? He said, yeah, I think there was 594 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: one game I caught two passes against Notre Dame. So 595 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 1: they ended up watching that film together and Bill Walsh 596 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: kept rewinding the only two catches that he had made. 597 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: He kept rewinding, in fact, they were they were playing 598 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: against Montana and Notre Dame, and he kept rewinding a 599 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: catch that Dwight had made over the middle. Well, when 600 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: it was all said and done, Bill had gone back 601 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: to his staff and said, hey, we wanna we want 602 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: to draft Dwight Clark and he's like, we don't. They said, 603 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: we don't need a draft Dwight Clark. We can pick 604 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: him up as a free agent, but Bill is determined 605 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: to how Dwight Clark on the team, and they ended 606 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: up drafting and in the tenth round. So what I 607 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: remember from that is you take a guy that really 608 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: was not on anybody's radar, and you take a a 609 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: great coach like Bill Walship was able to find these 610 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: kind of players. UM, and that's how Dwight ended up 611 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL and ended up with the San Francisco 612 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: forty Niners. And then the rest is The rest speaks 613 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: for itself. Dwight went on to be one of the 614 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: great receivers in the NFL and made the catch and 615 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: put the forty Niners on the map. So his legacy 616 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: is somebody that took what he had and fought for 617 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: everything that he got. UM and I to get the 618 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: end of the day, the one thing Dwight said is 619 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: when they asked him if he would trade everything that 620 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: he did and everything, you know, he ended up with 621 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: five Super Bowl rings, would he trade that for not 622 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: having a LS? And his answer was, I may give 623 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: up one or two of the rings, but probably no, 624 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: I would. I would not trade what he did and 625 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: what he accomplished. Show his legacy was really UM. How 626 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: he fought to get to where he was, and how 627 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: he fought through the A L. S. Uh with grace 628 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: and class and humor. Um, that's his legacy to me. 629 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: And of course how he treated people really that was 630 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 1: that was amazing. That's an absolute testament to the type 631 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: of person and the type of player that Dwight is. 632 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: And I'm so glad that you shared that story. But 633 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: even in the midst of his own battle with A L. S. 634 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: Dwight was the ultimate made and he used his platform 635 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: to help others fight their own battles. Can you speak 636 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: a little bit to the importance of continuing the support 637 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: of organizations that are working to find a cure for als? Yeah, well, 638 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: of course the Golden Heart Fund that was started by 639 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: some of the players, uh has been really instrumental for uh. 640 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: You know, the awareness of what athletes go through, you know, 641 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: during the game, but more importantly what they go through 642 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 1: after the game. UH. And it's been really amazing to 643 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: watch what that has done. The the awareness is a 644 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: real key. And then the second part, um has been 645 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: the funding that has been available for players in need. 646 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: And we've unfortunately lost a lot of our alumni. Um, 647 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, we've lost several guys over the past three 648 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: or four years. Uh. Some of the guys that I 649 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: played with Keith far Moore's uh uh and and there 650 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: were several others. So that's that. That's been amazing what 651 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: they've done. The other thing that I've been a part 652 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 1: of is um the the Chapter of ALS in California. 653 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: And I have a dear friend, Lucy Weedameyer, whose husband 654 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: had a LS. And there was actually a movie that 655 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: was made, a movie that was made about Charlie Weeda 656 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 1: Buyer who at a LS and he was a coach 657 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: and he lived over thirty years with a l S. 658 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: And he was an athlete. He was a top rated 659 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: player at Michigan State and then he was a coach 660 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: over at Las Casas High School and got a l 661 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: S at a very young age and he lived thirty years. 662 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: So I was on a zoom call last week actually 663 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: with over a hundred people and then asked Fred Jones 664 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: and I to speak and and talk about Dwight in 665 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,479 Speaker 1: a relationship with Dwight and and some of the same 666 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: things that you're that you're asking. Uh. So I have 667 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: stayed involved in that. Every year there's the Charlie Wiedermeyer 668 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: Local High School all started football game, and it was 669 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: really special. I had played in that game when it 670 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: had first started, I don't know, forty years ago, and 671 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: then I have three sons that all played in the game, 672 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: and so that was something that's important. And I go 673 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: back and Ronny Lot and Brent Jones and I go 674 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 1: back and we we passed out awards and they always 675 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: have an a LS UM person that's they're in a wheelchair, 676 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: and so families out on the field and it's really special. 677 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 1: I just donated a thousand dollars to the a LS 678 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: chapter and I'm doing the They're having a virtual walk 679 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: to raise money for a LS. So I will continue 680 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: to be involved in that in memory of Dwight and 681 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: for all of those that UH suffer, both the people 682 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,959 Speaker 1: that have bails and their families a like he taught 683 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: us the stories about Dwight in your years when you 684 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,959 Speaker 1: were playing for the forty Niners and taking you under 685 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: his wing and go into that Mexican restaurant, just looking 686 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 1: back at the time that you've known Dwight, and even 687 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: if it's golfing on your birthday against the Giants players, 688 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: if you could speak to Dwight right now, what would 689 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: you like to say to him person? Well, I what 690 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: I would say is um number one, Dwight, I miss 691 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 1: you a ton. You were one of the best friends 692 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 1: that I could ever have wished for. Um. We never 693 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 1: got a chance to watch Equalizer two with Denzel Washington. Dwight, Uh, 694 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: you had passed away before it came out. And Dwight 695 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 1: and I used to sit in his home in Capitola 696 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: and we would watch vigilanti movies. Uh. And most of 697 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 1: the players know that Dwight considered himself a vigilanti and 698 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 1: and and that's because he did not like bad people. Um. 699 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 1: He liked good people. He liked kind people. And so 700 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: we didn't get a chance to have a margarita and 701 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: watching Realizer to Uh. I hope he can watch it 702 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: from heaven because it was another outstanding vigilante movie. But 703 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: I'll miss those moments that we had alone together, sitting 704 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: on your couch, and all the great uh lunches that 705 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 1: we had at the Paradise Scrill in Capitola, the original 706 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: Joe's Times. Um, I just missed your presents. I always 707 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: love you and you always have a huge place in 708 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: my heart and I'm always representing of course d c 709 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: uh was one of the greatest ever. Now I have 710 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: to ask, was a margarita his drink of choice? The 711 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 1: margarita was his drink of choice for sure. He loved 712 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,280 Speaker 1: the margarita and and and he could put him back. 713 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: You know. I had to watch him a little bit, 714 00:47:55,239 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: but he loved his margarita's. Uh. He loved life. He 715 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,240 Speaker 1: loved his family, he loved his friends. You love his kids, 716 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: you love his wife, loved his teammates. Uh. He was 717 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all time. I think one 718 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 1: thing that we appreciate is that everybody has their memories 719 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: and their stories of Dwight, and all of them have 720 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: one center theme, and that's just he was a great 721 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 1: person to be around. He was a caring person. He 722 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 1: was a lighthearted person, and and everyone just everyone has 723 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: these stories that just tell how great of a human 724 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: being he was. And this is football aside, so your 725 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: story is just added to that. And thank you so 726 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 1: much for even sharing those with us. They were incredible. Yeah, 727 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: thank thank you for having me on and being a 728 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 1: part of this. Uh. I love Dwight, Uh, I love 729 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: all my teammates and UH I feel honored and blessed 730 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: to be a part of this. This podcast is sponsored 731 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: by manscaped, the official Low the Way screaming partner of 732 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 1: the forty Niners. Try man Escaped and get twenty off 733 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: and free shipping with code forty niners at manscaped dot com. 734 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: That's called forty niners off at manscaped dot com. Dwight 735 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: and I have tons in common. Well, one, we're typically 736 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 1: showing up late, but too we always have a margarite 737 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: in hand. And finally, to get to know Dwight well 738 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: before being drafted by Bill Wash and becoming an iconic 739 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: member of the San Francisco forty Niners, we are joined 740 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,720 Speaker 1: by his younger brother j d to get some insight 741 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: into how Dwight became the person that he was and 742 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: who he truly was outside of the game of football. 743 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: So I'm sure, Jeff, you have different views than maybe 744 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: some of Dwight's teammates or maybe some of the fans do. 745 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: But from your perspective, tell us who is Dwight the 746 00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: brother and the friend he is? Uh? At least in 747 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: my life, he was the the protector and the mentor 748 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: of the coach, the cheerleader, Um, I'm I'm six grades 749 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 1: younger than than he, so as I'm coming along. I mean, 750 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm in sixth grade when he's a senior in high school. 751 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: So h. Most of the sports that I played, he 752 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: had a hand in and coaching, either on the court 753 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: or field or or a certainly in the backyard, you know, 754 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: working on fundamentals kind of thing. So UM, yeah, I 755 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 1: guess I had a little bit of unique view from 756 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 1: the early days. At least you told us that, you know, 757 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 1: your name is Jeff, but you got the nickname j 758 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: V from Dwight. What's the story behind that? Uh my 759 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: initials H Dwight. Dwight had nicknames for everybody. I can 760 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: only assume that happened in the locker room because I 761 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: know a lot of guys had nicknames. UM, and I 762 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: understand when I would go out there, I found it 763 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: interesting that I would refer to, uh, my brother is 764 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,919 Speaker 1: Dwight and and people would have to, you know, think 765 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: a second who I'm talking about, because he was known 766 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: as d C out there. So he even got initials 767 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: himself to be named. But uh, he he named everybody. 768 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: My father, Uh, my father was a big guy. UM, 769 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: six four three fifteen, and he was known as Big 770 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:41,479 Speaker 1: Gene and my mother wanted a nickname, so she uh, 771 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 1: she just her name was Norma, so that was shortened 772 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 1: to norm So everybody had a nickname at the house. 773 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 1: What kind of impact do you think that Dwight had 774 00:51:52,400 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: on you personally growing up and then into adulthood. Wow, um, 775 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: probably bigger than I understand. UM. And to be honest 776 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: with you, over these last couple of years of reflection, 777 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: I can really um, I could really see that I am. 778 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 1: I never realized how much I relied on my my 779 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: brother and my father as well. UM. But later my brother, 780 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: um just for general advice of of of life in general. 781 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: And uh I didn't and shame old me for not 782 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: appreciating it when I had that opportunity. But um I UM, 783 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 1: I realized now how much UM, my my thought process, 784 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: my work ethic, my desire to win, my hatred of 785 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 1: losing UM has was built around the relationship with with 786 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 1: my brother. UM, I don't. He's the only person I 787 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: know that, not that I personally know that hates to 788 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 1: lose more than I do. He really hated to lose. 789 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: What's that being said? Was there a difference between Dewight 790 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: the NFL player, and then Dewight the big brother he was. 791 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,320 Speaker 1: He was a lot more supportive and nurturing than I 792 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: think most people would think. He uh, he wanted he 793 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,720 Speaker 1: wanted it. At least my observation is he he wanted 794 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: the best out of certainly me, um, but it seems 795 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: he wanted the best out of everybody around him. Um. 796 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: I think if you get the best out of everybody 797 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 1: around you, you tend to win. And I think that 798 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: was clear in his mind. And like I said, he 799 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: liked to win. He was also known for his sense 800 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,240 Speaker 1: of humor and his light hearted nature. Were there any 801 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 1: memories that might come to mind to you, from either 802 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 1: childhood or growing into adulthood, of his his sense of 803 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: humor and his personality really shiny? Ah? Well, again, I 804 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: was a little bit younger than him, so I probably 805 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 1: was not in the younger days of really you know, 806 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: I was the little brother so um. But I do 807 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 1: know that he um um. He had some really close 808 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 1: friends that each offseason he would spend the summers in 809 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach with. And it was well known that you 810 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 1: never left your golf shoes around or somebody was gonna 811 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 1: take them and go skiing with him. They'd get behind 812 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 1: a golf cart and see if how big a trail 813 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: of sparks they could get. And this was in the 814 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 1: metal spike days. But you just you never let your 815 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: shoes out of your sight. And I won't say Dwight 816 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: started that, but he certainly, uh made sure that that 817 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 1: kept on kept going on so little. I mean everything 818 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: was like that. I mean, everything was like that little 819 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: knick knack funny stuff that you just pay attention to 820 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 1: what's going on and trying not to get caught up 821 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: in it. So lesson, never leave your shoes behind, never 822 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: know what could happen after that. That's right, That's right, 823 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 1: j D. How would you define Dwight's legacy? Um? I 824 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: I think it's important to understand where he came from 825 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:51,840 Speaker 1: and that he was He was not even scouted. Really. 826 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,760 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh had come to Clempson to see Steve Fuller 827 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: and asked Dwight to catch it catch passes for Fuller 828 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: so he could watch him. And I mean he famously 829 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,959 Speaker 1: asked for some video on him, and Dwight only called. 830 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: There was only one game where he caught two passes, 831 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 1: and Bill Wash liked him. And drafted him late. I 832 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 1: mean he was in the tenth round. They don't even 833 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: have ten rounds anymore. He was really not supposed to 834 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: make it. His whole goal was to go to California. 835 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 1: Before he left. He wanted to play pebble Beach and 836 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: he could tell his kids that he had a tryout 837 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And that's what he wanted to do. 838 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 1: And his head coach at the time in college, it 839 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 1: was just one game that it was. His head coach 840 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: was danny Ford. Danny Ford's first game was the the 841 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:53,760 Speaker 1: Gator Ball when Clipson played Ohio State, and danny Ford 842 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: told Dwight that, he said, you're really fast. And if 843 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: you go out there and out run everybody to the 844 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: water cooler, to the locker room, to that wherever, you 845 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,919 Speaker 1: outrun everybody, and you you're fast enough that somebody might 846 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 1: keep you long enough for one year on the specialty 847 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 1: teams and you can say you played one year in 848 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. So that was Dwight's kind of gig. I mean, 849 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: he just wanted to hustle and he wanted to try 850 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 1: to be as good as he can um and and 851 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: he did what he was good at. He really he 852 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 1: really played basketball on the football field, he would which 853 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 1: fit perfect in to build WASH's offense of being in 854 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: certain spots and he would go and and literally box 855 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 1: out someone and and for a for so he would 856 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 1: be open. And he's big. I mean he was like 857 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 1: a six file or six five, so um. He uh. 858 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: He just worked hard and if if nothing else in life, 859 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 1: the story of if you get one chance out of 860 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: a million like he got, um, you sure really need 861 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: to do everything you can to make sure you take 862 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,919 Speaker 1: every advantage of that opportunity. And it it worked out 863 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 1: for him, I mean he did, he did well. Did 864 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: you ever get opportunities to travel to his games and 865 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,439 Speaker 1: watch him live on the field? Oh yeah, oh yeah 866 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: we uhm when when he was drafted, his division or 867 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 1: his conference excuse me was Atlanta was in the conference, 868 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 1: which we lived in Charlotte when we were growing up, 869 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 1: so that was right down so that was like a homecoming. 870 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: And uh and I know he had to buy every 871 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: person's ticket, every teammate's ticket that they got because we 872 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: would have i mean quite literally at least thirty people 873 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: down there, you know, so every year it was it 874 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: was pretty neat. So we were able to do that, 875 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 1: so we went to a lot of those games. I 876 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: got to go to three different Super Bowls with too, 877 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 1: several games in Candlestick, which was a just an awesome experience, 878 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: just awesome experience. That's so incredible. So even in the 879 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: midst of his A L S, he was the ultimate 880 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,479 Speaker 1: teammate and was concerned with using his platform to help 881 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 1: others fight their battles. Can you speak a little bit 882 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 1: to the importance of continuing to support organizations to find 883 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: a cure for A L S. Yeah, it's, Um, that 884 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: is it's such a bizarre disease. I mean there's not 885 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: maybe illnesses in the world right now that we don't 886 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: I mean, we know nothing. We don't know what causes it. 887 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,439 Speaker 1: We don't know the cure, we don't I mean, there's 888 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 1: so many unknowns, um. And it's it's it's just imperative 889 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: that we keep we keep doing the research and keep 890 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: asking the questions. Um, somebody's going to figure this out. 891 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:12,439 Speaker 1: Somebody will. And it's just it's so important to keep 892 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: the fight and uh and keep it in the front 893 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 1: of your mind and and for all of us to 894 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 1: be thinking of this two to continue the efforts and 895 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 1: until we do figure out what this is and and 896 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: knock it out because it's ugly. It's an ugly, ugly disease. 897 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: And last thing, I don't want to keep you for 898 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: too long, but I would love to ask you, if 899 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 1: right now you can speak to Dewight, what would you 900 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: say to him? I would ask him if he would 901 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 1: like a brisket cheeseburger when he would uh, when when 902 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: our mother was alive. She's very close to me geographically 903 01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: and emotionally. But when he would come visit, actually, any 904 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 1: time he would fly anywhere, he would go home via 905 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 1: North Carolina. If he went to Chicago, he would come 906 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: to North Carolina on the way home to California so 907 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 1: he could see our mom, and uh, I'd always take 908 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 1: him down to a place down in Wilmy to North Carolina, 909 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 1: and we would have a brisket cheeseburger and just as 910 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 1: bad for you as it could be, but man, it 911 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 1: was good. It was so good, and he loved it, 912 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 1: and it was just fun to do that. I've learned 913 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: so many things about Dwight just today that I may 914 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: not have known in the past. One that he loves 915 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 1: a good cheese brisket sandwich, and too he enjoys a 916 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 1: good margarita. Yes, yes, he did like a margarita. Yes, 917 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 1: don't we all? I mean, don't we all? What time 918 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 1: is it we're here at I think it's passed by. 919 01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's plenty of time now. Yeah. Fan only 920 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 1: continues to celebrate Clark's legacy and his actions both on 921 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: and off the field. A very, very big thank you 922 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 1: to Ronnie Lott, John Faylor, and j D for their 923 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 1: time and sharing these intimate stories of Dwight. To donate 924 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 1: to Dwight's Clouds Cause of Choice and to help out 925 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 1: in the fight against a l S, please visit Golden 926 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 1: Heart Fund dot org and click donate. I hope you 927 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 1: guys enjoyed these stories as much as I did listening 928 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: and hearing these. Enjoy your day and I'll see you 929 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 1: guys next time.