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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: This is Buck.

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Speaker 2: I'm here with Clay and I am back from Scotland,

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Speaker 2: which is, I will say, a fantastic place, and I'll

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Speaker 2: try not to talk too much about it today because's

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Speaker 2: a lot of big news we're going to get to. Clay,

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Speaker 2: I know, kept everything, kept everything cool, calm and collected

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Speaker 2: last week. I mean, he did let Trump go get

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Speaker 2: his mugshot taken, and apparently some crazy stuff happened while

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Speaker 2: I was gone. I saw that photo, so Clay, we said,

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Speaker 2: no keg parties. I mean, that's not a keg party,

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Speaker 2: but wow, is that a crazy moment in our history

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Speaker 2: that occurred while I was out.

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Speaker 4: I almost feel like Buck, it doesn't really matter at

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Speaker 4: this point when you or I are gone, or when

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Speaker 4: anybody out there goes on vacation or takes a trip.

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Speaker 4: We're almost every week something that has never occurred before

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Speaker 4: in the history of the nation. It feels like is happening,

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Speaker 4: and it doesn't matter what week you're like, Oh, this

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Speaker 4: week's going to be quiet. I'm going to go somewhere

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Speaker 4: and then something crazy happens, and I feel like that's

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Speaker 4: only going to accelerate over the next sixteen months or so.

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Speaker 4: We're going to see things the likes of which we've

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Speaker 4: never seen. I totally co sign on to that it's

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Speaker 4: going to get crazy out there. Thanks thanks to my

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Speaker 4: wife Carrie, who was okay with me driving around the

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Speaker 4: Scottish countryside, just constantly saying, oh yeah, wee Bonnie Las,

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Speaker 4: you know, just just throwing out this Scotland by the way,

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Speaker 4: before we get into all the craziness. What would you

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Speaker 4: recommend for people out there who are listening Scotland as

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Speaker 4: a tourist destination.

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Speaker 3: Love it?

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a great country with

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Speaker 2: really charming, enduring people. And you know, you're not going

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Speaker 2: there for beach stuff. You're not going to have sunny

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Speaker 2: skies in eighty five so it's the summer. But I

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Speaker 2: mean it was sixty degrees every day, nice breeze. I

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Speaker 2: absolutely loved it. I've been melting in South Lorda for

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Speaker 2: the last three months, so I really appreciated it. Food,

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Speaker 2: great dranks of Scotch, phenomenal time. Anybody DM me or

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Speaker 2: you know, send me a message on Facebook or an

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Speaker 2: email or something. Our VIPs email us if you want

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Speaker 2: an itinerary, I'll give you a one week Scotland breakdown.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I even went to the Brave Heart,

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Speaker 2: the Brave Heart monument Clay or the William Wallace Monument,

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Speaker 2: I should say. I told the lady who was running it,

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Speaker 2: who's like collecting tickets. I was like, you know, I

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Speaker 2: was going to show up with my face painted blue,

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Speaker 2: but my wife wouldn't let me. And she was like,

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Speaker 2: YA should have. I'd let you in for free, a

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Speaker 2: silly bastard. And I was like, oh, okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: you know next time. Next time?

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Speaker 3: Did you see lock Ness?

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Speaker 4: By the way, they had the biggest search for the

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Speaker 4: Lockness Monster maybe ever going on while you were over there.

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Speaker 2: Can neither confer nor deny that x Cia Bucke is

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Speaker 2: in country and we're trying to actually find Locknest Monster NeSSI.

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Speaker 3: I think is not her name? Is correct? Yes? NeSSI?

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Speaker 3: Yeah we didn't.

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Speaker 2: They didn't didn't find her yet, But was I a

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Speaker 2: part of this high tech search mission? Can neither confirm

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Speaker 2: nor deny. That's that's on a need to know basis.

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Speaker 2: Everybody so other things on a need to know basis,

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Speaker 2: as in, for all of you in the audience out there,

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Speaker 2: we have let's see new polling out, Clay, I get

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Speaker 2: to see the aftermath. I watched the debate obviously after

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Speaker 2: it occurred. It was like the dead in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the night in Scotland. Watched the debate and watched

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Speaker 2: much of the aftermath over there. I tried to be offline,

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Speaker 2: but I've caught up all weekend. New polling out showing

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Speaker 2: where the numbers have moved. We'll discuss that more Americans

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Speaker 2: think Biden is too old to run seventy seven percent,

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Speaker 2: including sixty nine percent of Democrats. Also interesting, Clay's Scotch

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Speaker 2: drinking buddy Gavin Newsom getting a little bit of heat

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Speaker 2: from some of the Biden camp.

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Speaker 3: You may have seen this.

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Speaker 2: They're saying it's disrespectful that Newsom is running this shadow

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Speaker 2: campaign whether he gets in or not in the back.

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Speaker 2: So we can certainly discuss that. The feel good video

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Speaker 2: of the week, I'm calling it. If you haven't seen it,

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Speaker 2: we will put it up on Clayandbuck dot com for you.

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Speaker 2: Were these Nevada Rangers you saw, That's right, Clay. They

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Speaker 2: just they had these climate protesters snarling traffic for miles

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Speaker 3: It's pretty good. The video is great.

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Speaker 2: We can discuss that, but let's start with we got

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Speaker 2: big news today. We got to jump into this because

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Speaker 2: we've got a million things to talk about. I'm so

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Speaker 2: happy to be back in to talk to everybody. I

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Speaker 2: miss the radio fam when I'm gone. I did see

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Speaker 2: one of our listeners randomly in Scotland, which was a lot.

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Speaker 4: I read that text from you on Friday, I think

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Speaker 4: when you were out on a hike.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great. It was great.

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Speaker 2: Now we're we're on the we're walking down and right

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Speaker 2: is one of the most charming cities I think outside

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Speaker 2: of the United States, you can go anywhere in the

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Speaker 2: world anyway. The big news today, though it happened right

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Speaker 2: before we come on, is that Judge Chuckkin has set

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Speaker 2: a March fourth, twenty twenty four trial date. Now, this

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Speaker 2: is for the twenty twenty election January sixth case. This

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Speaker 2: is coming at a time when we're still watching all

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Speaker 2: the pieces get put into place for the legal assault,

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Speaker 2: the legal barrage against Donald Trump. Clay we talked to

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Speaker 2: this before you said zero percent chance any of these trials.

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Speaker 2: I think you said zero percent chance, which is pretty

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Speaker 2: certain that any of them happened before the election. And

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Speaker 2: then you said, well said, I thought New York City. No,

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Speaker 2: that's what I was gonna say. You thought you thought

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Speaker 2: New York. So we agree that New York is probably happening. Right,

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Speaker 2: That's that's where we are. I will say dersh Alan

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Speaker 2: Dershowitz has gone from all four half to a couple

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Speaker 2: are happening to the latest today, I see Dershowitz, you're

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Speaker 2: killing me here. None of them are happening, is the

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Speaker 2: latest from Dirshwitz. I'm just gonna say, brilliant guy, but

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Speaker 2: don't ask him. You know what team is gonna win

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Speaker 2: the game on Sunday because he's changes.

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Speaker 3: He's changes. It's good to cover every angle buck.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be right with the perspectives that he's now adopted.

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Speaker 3: Here, I'm on. I'm on to Dirsha on this one.

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Speaker 2: I see all you can't go from all four are

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Speaker 2: that's where Dershowitz is on this one. Clay Chuck Judge

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Speaker 2: Chuck Kin has set March fourth. Does this happen? What

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Speaker 2: is the timing? Tell you?

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Speaker 3: And do you do you think.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to adjust your percentages now that one

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Speaker 4: Okay, So here I think everybody needs to understand what happened,

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Speaker 4: because I haven't seen anybody discussing this. But remember the

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Speaker 4: timeline here in Atlanta. The judge in Atlanta. Initially, do

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Speaker 4: you remember this, Buck, You remember what day she set

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Speaker 4: the Atlanta trial for initially March fourth, And then everybody

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Speaker 4: This is the Atlanta State, the Georgia State, Atlanta City,

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Speaker 4: Fulton County. Initially they said, we're gonna get this trial

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Speaker 4: is jostling, because really it's almost unprecedented to have four

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Speaker 3: So all these.

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Speaker 4: Courts have to take note of the schedule that exists

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Speaker 4: then reversed that decision, Buck, and now I believe last

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Speaker 4: I think it was October twenty third, and that news

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Speaker 4: ask our team, wait, is that October twenty third of

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Speaker 3: Which is crazy. So she bumps her trial all the way.

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Speaker 4: This Georgia judge does all the way up to October

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Speaker 4: twenty third, which Buck freed up March fourth, because the

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Speaker 4: So they're now trying to angle all these things in.

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Speaker 4: I think the odds that this case starts on March

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Speaker 3: But I also think this is all crazy. Buck. You

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Speaker 4: At some point, you ever have a friend who gets

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Speaker 3: Gonna spend the rest of your life with this person.

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Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of the wheels that have

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Speaker 3: People how crazy all this is. Because you can take.

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Speaker 4: The steps, oh, we're going to investigate, we're going to

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Speaker 4: it becomes real and you kind of see that light

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Speaker 3: I think even people on.

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Speaker 4: The left buck are starting to recognize, holy crap, this

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Speaker 4: precedential situation the likes of which has never occurred, and

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Speaker 4: no one has any idea how to basically step off

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Speaker 4: of this track that they're on right now.

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Speaker 2: I do think it's fair to point out that the

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Speaker 2: the mugshot and the fundraising that has come from that,

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Speaker 2: and you know it is a badass mug shot. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say, I mean, he you know, Trump, Trump leaned in,

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Speaker 2: texted you. I couldn't it looked like something that was

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Speaker 2: if you told AI, make the most you know, fierce Trump.

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Speaker 3: Mugshot, you possibly can. That's what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: So while we're talking about that and the politics of it,

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Speaker 2: I think there has to be more of a recognition

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Speaker 2: on the right, that this legal process that is playing

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Speaker 2: out is going to do so independently in some ways

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Speaker 2: It's a out in the desert, a lot of I've

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Speaker 2: never been, to be fair, and I have friends who

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Speaker 2: have gone, so I'm just based.

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Speaker 3: But it's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of dancing to techno music and doing drugs, and there's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, people dancing around naked and stuff.

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Speaker 3: It gets pretty funky.

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Speaker 2: So the left wing anti capitalist protesters are stopping fellow

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Speaker 2: left wingers from getting to Burning Man, as if that's

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Speaker 2: gonna do anything as well, Like, you know, what even

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Speaker 2: is supposed to be the takeaway from this, Like, how

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Speaker 2: could you if these people are terrorists, and in a

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Speaker 2: sense they are, how do you even negotiate with this terrorist?

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Speaker 3: They want to AbuI capitalism? What does that even mean?

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Speaker 3: In general?

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Speaker 4: Every time I see someone protest, it makes me support

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Speaker 4: the protests less. But I can't think this is a

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Speaker 4: good question for everybody out there. Can you remember seeing

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Speaker 4: a protest in your life and thinking, you know what,

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Speaker 4: I'm more inclined to support this protest now than I

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Speaker 4: was before. I can't. I think we have a cut

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Speaker 4: of this cut fifteen. I will also continue to say

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Speaker 4: all protesters are ugly. You ever notice that almost every

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Speaker 4: single person who protests anything, it's never good looking people

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Speaker 4: like I've never seen a protester in thought, you know,

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Speaker 4: especially that's a really good looking woman. I think these

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Speaker 4: are angry people who just want the rest of the

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Speaker 4: world to be as angry as them. That's my general thesis.

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Speaker 4: But here's cut fifteen. Put them in jail for six months.

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Speaker 4: If you block traffic, period, regardless of what you're protesting,

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Speaker 4: put them in jail for six months.

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Speaker 3: It would be over. Just like that. Listen off the

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Speaker 3: highway to the state round.

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Speaker 2: Everybody will be arrested.

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Speaker 3: If not thirty seconds send their leader to my vehicle.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk, get up thro all right.

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Speaker 4: So that is the video. You can watch the video

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Speaker 4: on playin Buck. It's a little bit hard to hear

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Speaker 4: it all.

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Speaker 2: Go to clayanbuck dot com because it's worth It's the

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Speaker 2: feel good movie of the week. Go go watch this

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Speaker 2: or video, because they they've set up they've erected this

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Speaker 2: abolished capitalism barricade, and they've erected this the middle of

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Speaker 2: the street. And this cop he's like, look, guys, you're

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Speaker 2: all gonna get arrested. You got to stop this. He

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Speaker 2: drives his vehicle and crushes their barricade and all their

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Speaker 2: stupid signs and everything else, and then he proceeds to

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Speaker 2: with some help like face plant these commy lunatics one

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Speaker 2: by one on the pavement. It is magnifique. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it is amazing. They absolutely deserve this. You hear the boss, Ah,

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Speaker 2: we're not violent, like they're screaming and they're shrieking, and

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Speaker 2: it's amazing because you know, they really deserve it. And

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Speaker 2: you have to wonder yourself, like what exactly that the

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Speaker 2: people that are.

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Speaker 3: Doing this kind of stuff, the.

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Speaker 2: Amount clay of self indulgence, self pity, and self aggrandizement,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the kind of combination of pathetic narcissism that

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Speaker 2: comes into play here.

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Speaker 3: Could you imagine doing this to.

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Speaker 2: People as if you're doing something for the planet, you're

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Speaker 2: helping climate or you're helping to abolish capitalism or whatever.

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Speaker 2: These people are. It's not just that they're stupid. There

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Speaker 2: are a lot of stupid people out there. There's something

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Speaker 2: really rotten, rotten in their souls that they would do

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Speaker 2: this to their fellow human beings with no upside.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I think it's a total downside because I come

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Speaker 4: back again to if you are caught in traffic because

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Speaker 4: somebody is protesting on the road and they have blocked

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Speaker 4: the road, you are far less likely to ever support

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Speaker 4: anything that the people who block the road would support forever.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I actually makes me want to support the

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Speaker 4: anti side of whatever protester is blocking the road. If

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Speaker 4: I can't get something, you know, I'll tell you something.

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Speaker 2: We're also going to talk about this because New York

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Speaker 2: Times front page today, you know.

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Speaker 3: The rise of COVID cases. Get ready, uh COVID.

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Speaker 2: You know they're all freaking out about it, the people.

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Speaker 2: There were many times during the COVID pandemic where I

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Speaker 2: was told that I, you know, I had to put

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Speaker 2: my mask on or mask up or whatever. And I

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Speaker 2: can tell you that overwhelmingly, not in every case, but

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Speaker 2: but pretty much, and certainly anyone who ever said anything

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Speaker 2: that wasn't obligated to do so like so right, you know, sir,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, al right, Like this the policy here over

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Speaker 2: there was a little glee that they took because these

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Speaker 2: are very weak, cowardly people who were given this power

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Speaker 2: over their fellow human beings in this moment, and you

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Speaker 2: could tell that they were sort of enjoying it. I

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Speaker 2: think that the people that shut down you know, that's

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Speaker 2: what the mask, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, put on your mask? Where are you masking up?

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Speaker 2: The people that shut down roadways to stop other people

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Speaker 2: from being able to go about their lives and their

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Speaker 2: day because of climate like what they are doing to

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Speaker 2: They like that they have power to ruin everyone's day.

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Speaker 2: They get off on it. They get joy from this,

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Speaker 2: and that's why I don't I don't want to talk

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Speaker 2: to them.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear what they have to say.

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Speaker 2: I want their asses thrown in prison. I want them

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Speaker 2: to pay for what they do to people. Because Clay,

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Speaker 2: this is gonna this happens in the UK. You got

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Speaker 2: these crazy climate you know, UK people who also try

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Speaker 2: to destroy priceless works of art for attention. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is the ultimate malignant narcissism. And it's because we're

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Speaker 2: going to save the planet. No it's because you're a loser.

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Speaker 2: It's because you're a loser that you do these things

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Speaker 2: to all the environmental activists get a life.

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Speaker 3: And I would.

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Speaker 4: Also add this because we're going to talk about it

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Speaker 4: later in the program. For people out there who said,

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Speaker 4: I don't know why you should even mention the fact

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Speaker 4: that some people continue to wear masks, it's because they

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Speaker 4: will make you have to wear a mask the moment

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Speaker 4: they have any political power whatsoever to do so. So

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Speaker 4: if you don't continue to ridicule and try to crush

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Speaker 4: these people when it comes to their argument in favor

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Speaker 4: of masking the minute they have a scintilla of political power,

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Speaker 4: and unfortunately you're starting to see it already, they're going

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Speaker 4: to come back, rise, back up and try to demand

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Speaker 4: that you put a mask on when you walk into

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Speaker 4: a restaurant, or that you put a mask on between

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Speaker 4: bites on an airplane. They're coming for you. They want

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Speaker 4: to make you put your mask back on. They haven't

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Speaker 4: given up. You have to continue to fight it.

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Speaker 1: Blade Travis and Buck Sexton chuck up a win for

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Speaker 1: Team Reality.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to play and book. Here we Go. Daily

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Speaker 3: Mail headline.

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Speaker 2: Even more Americans think Joe Biden eighty is too old

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Speaker 2: to run again. Seventy seven percent, including sixty nine percent

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Speaker 2: of Democrats, say that the President Joe Biden can't run

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Speaker 2: the country for four more years. So you have a

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Speaker 2: huge majority of Democrats even saying it, which I think

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Speaker 2: at some level can create a little bit of false confidence,

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Speaker 2: because I would argue that one hundred percent of that,

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Speaker 2: sixty nine percent in a general election scenario will still

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Speaker 2: vote for Joe Biden. So it doesn't indicate that they

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Speaker 2: are changing their minds. But if you look at independence,

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Speaker 2: I would want to see what some of that data suggests,

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Speaker 2: because there's there's always the you know, Clay, we're talking

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Speaker 2: a second ago about what do independence of Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: at this point, given all the indictments and the craziness

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Speaker 2: that is being leveled against him or that is being

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Speaker 2: deployed against him.

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Speaker 3: There's also the what do people think of?

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Speaker 2: What are those same people think of Joe Biden, who

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Speaker 2: is somehow the president and feels increasingly like a non

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Speaker 2: entity in politics. You don't really, you know, you don't

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Speaker 2: hear that much about him. I know it's August. I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of people are on vacation, and no

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Speaker 2: one likes vacation more than Delaware Beach Joe. But you know,

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Speaker 2: you start to look at this, you say to yourself,

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Speaker 2: on the one hand, there's the response I think to

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Speaker 2: the indictments against Trump for the persuadable voter, And on

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Speaker 2: the other hand, there's the position that Joe Biden finds

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Speaker 2: himself in that includes, as I mentioned, Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 3: Now getting a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit you know, his people are getting a little

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Speaker 2: bit here you go. Biden's advisors fume at Gavin Newsom's

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Speaker 2: plan to debate DeSantis. It fears he is running a

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Speaker 2: shadow twenty twenty four campaign. It is disrespectful at some level.

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Speaker 2: Is the plan of the Democrats going to possibly be

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Speaker 2: irrelevant because the candidate that they have not irrelevant? But

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Speaker 2: will it be overcome? Because the candidate that they have

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Speaker 2: right now is so weak that even their legal assault

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Speaker 2: against Trump is insufficient as a dirty.

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Speaker 3: Trick to keep him in office. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I mean is there's there's like multiple pieces moving here.

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Speaker 4: I still think that Biden is so incompetent that he's

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Speaker 4: not going to be the nominee. You think he's going

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Speaker 4: to be the nominee. Obviously they're unhappy with Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 4: and other people circling with the idea that he's not.

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Speaker 3: But let me ask you this. You watched the debate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how many people on that stage do you think

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Speaker 4: if they went head to head against Trump against Biden

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Speaker 4: would win? And let me I'll tell you how many

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Speaker 4: I think would Off off the top of my head.

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Speaker 4: I think Vivek would win comfortably. I think Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 4: would win comfortably. I think Nikki Hayley would win comfortably.

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Speaker 4: I think Tim Scott would win comfortably. I feel really

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Speaker 4: good about all four of those winning if they were

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Speaker 4: the nominee against Joe Biden. I feel like Trump, if

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Speaker 4: he is the nominee, it's going to be regardless. It's

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Speaker 4: going to come down to a few thousand voters in

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Speaker 4: Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and Arizona and Georgia, just like we

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Speaker 4: saw in twenty sixteen, and just like we saw in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty. I think that Asa Hutchinson would lose. I

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Speaker 4: think Doug Bergham. I mean, I it's hard to have

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Speaker 4: much of an opinion on those guys. Some of those

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Speaker 4: guys might be able to be Biden too. My point

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Speaker 4: on this is Biden is I think Buck historically the

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Speaker 4: weakest Democrat, certainly incumbent since Jimmy Carter, but I think

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Speaker 4: the weakest overall presidential nominee that the Democrats will have

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Speaker 4: put forward in my life.

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Speaker 3: I think he's worse than Doucaucus.

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Speaker 4: I think he is worse than John Kerry. I think

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Speaker 4: he is the worst candidate and I think most Democrats

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Speaker 4: would acknowledge it.

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Speaker 3: And so do you agree with me?

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Speaker 4: Like the four that I named, do you think those

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Speaker 4: four would beat Biden handily if they were on a

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Speaker 4: stage against him.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm very.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if cynical is the right word, but

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Speaker 2: well maybe, but I don't think that Joe Biden is

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Speaker 2: going to get beat on a debate stage in a

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Speaker 2: way that really matters.

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Speaker 3: I think Biden is I.

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Speaker 2: Know he's too old, I know he's decrepit, I know

660
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Speaker 2: all this, we all know all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: But he's been doing this.

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Speaker 2: For like fifty years now. He's going to just say

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Speaker 2: what he says. He's going to stick to the talking points.

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Speaker 2: He may not if it's Trump, he may not even

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Speaker 2: debate him, which is a president now that Trump has played.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think that the debates if we're what

667
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to say is, if we're hanging our hat on,

668
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Speaker 2: oh man, assuming that I'm right, which i'm you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it's one hundred percent obviously,

670
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Speaker 2: but assuming I'm right and Biden is the guy going forward,

671
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Speaker 2: if we're hanging our hat on, he's going to get

672
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Speaker 2: crushed in a debate.

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Speaker 3: I think we're going to be disappointed. And I also I.

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Speaker 2: Know this is you know, it's so easy to extrapolate

675
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Speaker 2: into the future based on how everything feels right now

676
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Speaker 2: in politics. And you know, I remember, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: actually just pulled this up because I remember reading it.

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Speaker 2: This was in Politico in July of twenty eleven, Okay,

679
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Speaker 2: and it was like the end of July. This was

680
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: this was basically August considered August first, same thing as

681
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Speaker 2: the last day of July. Obama's approval rating hit and

682
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Speaker 2: all all time low.

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Speaker 3: Think about that, everybody.

684
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Speaker 2: Obama hit an all time low approval rating. And now

685
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Speaker 2: that was also Joe Biden was the vice president. There's

686
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Speaker 2: some connective tissue here. All time low in the summer

687
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Speaker 2: of twenty eleven, we're.

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Speaker 3: Going into it.

689
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Speaker 2: We think we got oh, we got all these candidates.

690
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Speaker 2: We got Newt Gingridge, wasn't he in it right? We

691
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: got mid Romney, we got you know, we got all

692
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Speaker 2: these different guys. Fred Thompson had his moment, right, We

693
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Speaker 2: got all these people, and Obama absolutely crushed.

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Speaker 3: Romney in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: I'm bringing this up because the world that we see

696
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: right now, the narrative we see right now is the

697
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: calm before the storm. They are not running ads, they

698
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 2: are not spending the money. And it's even beyond the money.

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Speaker 2: As you know, the Democrats can count on the machinery

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Speaker 2: of the media to carry water for them ninety percent

701
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Speaker 2: of the time, ninety five percent of the time, right,

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Speaker 2: so they all those huge built in advantages. I just

703
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: feel like people this whole there is this game that

704
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: we all play with. Oh Biden, he's so weak, He's

705
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Speaker 2: you were running against the Democrat Party. You're not really

706
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Speaker 2: running against Biden.

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Speaker 4: What I just keep coming back to, Buck is no

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Speaker 4: one votes for Biden. And I think you're right. I

709
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Speaker 4: think they vote for the Democrat Party. He is the

710
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Speaker 4: apparatus candidate. But I think even uniquely, I just come

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Speaker 4: back to, when's the last time you saw somebody in

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Speaker 4: a Biden shirt? When's the last time you saw someone

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Speaker 4: in a Biden hat?

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Speaker 2: Never?

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Speaker 3: But Clay, that includes twenty twenty really and look where

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Speaker 3: we are.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's my point. People didn't vote for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: Democrats motivated people to come out and vote against Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: And the reason why, again, right is well, that's the

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Speaker 4: plan certainly for twenty four, which is why when I

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Speaker 4: watched that debate, the veik Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, and

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Speaker 4: certainly Ron DeSantis as well, I think all four of them,

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Speaker 4: it's harder to motivate people to show up and vote

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Speaker 4: against them. And so when I look at it, if

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Speaker 4: it's Trump Biden, there's third party, there's health considerations. To

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Speaker 4: your point, it's hard to project exactly, but the Democrat

727
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Speaker 4: playbook is going to be not your voting for Joe Biden,

728
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Speaker 4: it's that you're voting against Trump.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I think that's hard to run.

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Speaker 4: Against any of the four people I named who were

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Speaker 4: on the stage, because I think they would trounce Biden.

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Speaker 4: Now I understand there's also Trump people out there who

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Speaker 4: say I would never show up and vote for those

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Speaker 4: other people.

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Speaker 3: We'll put that aside for a second, though. Just the the.

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Speaker 2: Non college educated, white working class voter in the Key States.

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Speaker 2: If we're really narrowing it down to the demographics of

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Speaker 2: what delivered Trump the election in twenty sixteen, and you

739
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Speaker 2: know that Trump was able to win over enough of

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Speaker 2: those voters in just the right way, at just the

741
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Speaker 2: right time to beat Hillary Clinton. Could those other voters

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Speaker 2: I mean other candidates you're bringing up, could they do that?

743
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Speaker 2: Will they get the same kind of response? And now,

744
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Speaker 2: so basically it turns into you're right about the voting

745
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Speaker 2: against Trump versus voting for Biden. But also, I mean,

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Speaker 2: there is a turnout component of this, and I don't

747
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Speaker 2: know that a Senator Scott presidential campaign or a you know,

748
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Speaker 2: desantist residential campaign. I think he's a great governor. Everybody

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Speaker 2: knows that. I think he's not a phenomenal job as

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Speaker 2: a governor of my home state of Florida. But the

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Speaker 2: big it's a question mark, right, It's a question mark

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Speaker 2: will they get the same kind of turnout among those

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Speaker 2: voters or.

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Speaker 3: But you know, the disantand people, you know.

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Speaker 2: What they would say, you have college educated suburban voters,

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Speaker 2: including women.

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Speaker 4: So and I also think, to me, the test is out.

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Speaker 4: I understand the argument of Trump motivates a lot of

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Speaker 4: non traditional voters.

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Speaker 3: He does.

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Speaker 4: I think Trump turns out more people against him who

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Speaker 4: are unlikely to vote than he does turns out people

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Speaker 4: for him that are likely to vote.

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Speaker 3: So to me, when you when you assess this, there

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Speaker 3: are three ways Trump wins in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: One is Biden just has such a physical debilitating thing

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Speaker 4: and that happens like he has a Mitch McConnell freezing.

768
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Speaker 4: And what easily could happen Buck two is third party

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Speaker 4: because I think it's very likely that if it's Trump Biden,

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Speaker 4: the third party element is going to be impactful.

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Speaker 3: I think that hurts Biden more.

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Speaker 2: Again again on team we wanted, we want Republican to win,

773
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Speaker 2: So Trump's nominee, we want Trump to win. That's that's

774
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Speaker 2: the team we're playing for here.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Jill Stein played a big role in twenty sixteen, which

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Speaker 2: people don't like to talk about you very much. And

778
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Speaker 2: by the way, Gisumaga was also helped a little bit,

779
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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I'm just a little bit a little bit by Jill Stein.

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Speaker 4: And in twenty twenty, all of you knuckleheads out there

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Speaker 4: who voted libertarian in Georgia, in Wisconsin and in Pennsylvania

783
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Speaker 4: and in Georgia, all of you Arizona, you turn the

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00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: election right. If every libertarian voter had shown up and

785
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 4: voted for the candidate who was more in favor of freedom,

786
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Speaker 4: which is Trump, Trump would have won comfortably. But the

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Speaker 4: third way to win is and I do think this

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Speaker 4: is going to happen. I think turnout overall in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four is going to be down compared to twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty because I think they were able with COVID and

791
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Speaker 4: mail in balloting and rigging the election everything else to

792
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Speaker 4: create this idea that Biden that you had a choice

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Speaker 4: between good and evil, between the devil who was Trump,

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Speaker 4: this is what the media created, and Biden, who was

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Speaker 4: this saint who was going to ride in on a

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Speaker 4: white horse and return America to normalcy. And I think

797
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Speaker 4: at this point, regardless of what your impressions are in

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Speaker 4: general of Biden, I think the idea that he's brought

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Speaker 4: America back to normalcy, that lie that decency and trust

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Speaker 4: and all of that is unfulfilled campaign promise.

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Speaker 3: So I think people will not show up the same level.

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Speaker 2: I again, this is good, right, because we get different

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Speaker 2: perspectives on this, and we're extrapolating out of the future

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Speaker 2: and we're making predictions. And anybody who makes predictions in

805
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: politics is wrong a lot. I know that, but this

806
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: is my way of saying, I think you're going to

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00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: see in the election year if Trump is the nominee,

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00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: which right now you know the Vegas odds would be

809
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: heavily favoring him. You will see the absolute pinnacle of

810
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: anti Trump sentiment in the election cycle. It will be

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Speaker 2: even crazier than it has ever been before because we're

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Speaker 2: in a post January sixth world with four criminal indictments

813
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Speaker 2: outstanding against him. YadA, YadA, YadA. That doesn't to our people,

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Speaker 2: to our audience, that all sounds crazy, But just go

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Speaker 2: around and look at the people that are masking up again.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of crazies on the other side everybody,

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Speaker 2: and they still believe what they believe, like they're still.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, COVID and threats to our democracy and

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Speaker 3: all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think that they're planning on having the biggest anti

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Speaker 2: Trump turnout that they have ever had, much bigger than

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: I think they plan on it, Buck.

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Speaker 4: I just don't know that it works as well, because

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Speaker 4: now that you've had four years of Biden. I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of people I don't know that they aren't

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Speaker 4: change their mind. I think you and I would agree,

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Speaker 4: changing minds on voters is hard, and so the idea

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Speaker 4: if you voted for Biden in twenty twenty, the idea

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Speaker 4: that you would flip back to Trump in twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there are a lot of those people,

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Speaker 4: or vice versa. If you voted for Trump and twenty

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Speaker 4: I don't think you're gonna flip to Biden in twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I think that there are going to be The way

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Speaker 4: that people will register their disapproval is by not showing

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Speaker 4: up at the same level. And I think we could

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Speaker 4: go from what one hundred and fifty six million they

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Speaker 4: said voted in twenty twenty. I think we could go

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Speaker 4: back to one hundred and forty six million. I think

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Speaker 4: there could be ten million fewer voters. I really do.

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Speaker 2: If so, I'll go on the record here. If it

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Speaker 2: is a Trump Biden election, I think you will see

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Speaker 2: the biggest turnout you have ever seen an election. You

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Speaker 2: think it'll be bigger than twenty I absolutely yes. But

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Speaker 2: to pin in this one, this is where we disagree

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Speaker 4: went to report on all the violence in Chicago and

874
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Speaker 4: was robbed while they were there to report the same

875
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 4: thing happened, I think to a CNN crew that went

876
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Speaker 4: to San Francisco to report the Nordstrom in San Francisco,

877
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Speaker 4: which I bet a lot of our listeners have been

878
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Speaker 4: to because it was kind of an iconic Nordstrom location,

879
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 4: been there thirty five years. They're shutting down because the

880
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: amount of theft and the lack of safety in San Francisco.

881
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: All of this is happening. But I also wanted to

882
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 4: mention Buck down in Jacksonville shooting at a Dollar General.

883
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 4: There racially motivated shooting, and certainly we are opposed and

884
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Speaker 4: would encourage everyone out there to not engage in violence

885
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: for any reason. And certainly, on top of not engaging

886
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Speaker 4: in violence, don't engage in violence against anyone of any

887
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,479
Speaker 4: background in particular right treat your fellow humans well would

888
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Speaker 4: be the general perspective.

889
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Speaker 3: I will say this.

890
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Speaker 4: Though, within an hour or two of this racist cowards attack,

891
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 4: his manifesto was public and everyone was widely discussing the

892
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Speaker 4: motivations of the serial killing coward in Jacksonville. We still

893
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Speaker 4: in my hometown Buck of Nashville, the transshooter who stormed

894
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: that Christian school and killed multiple people in March. The

895
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Speaker 4: entire manifesto, all of her writings, still not public, And

896
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Speaker 4: I would just ask the question, how is it that

897
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Speaker 4: within an hour of a racist killer in Jacksonville committing

898
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Speaker 4: a heinous crime which we condemn, how is it that

899
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Speaker 4: that manifesto is out and we still don't know all

900
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Speaker 4: of the writings and motivation that undergirded the decision making

901
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Speaker 4: of that awful killer in Nashville, my hometown, back in March.

902
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Speaker 2: The left in this country knows that to politicize a tragedy,

903
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 2: you have to act on it right away. In fact,

904
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: act on it so quickly, meaning you know, get a

905
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: narrative out so fast that you haven't even necessarily waited

906
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: on all of the facts to come in. They also know,

907
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: on the other side of things, if you want to

908
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Speaker 2: make sure that there are no political consequences or political

909
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: opinions that will shift in response to a tragedy or

910
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: a horrific incident of some kind, delay it as long

911
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: as you can delay the motive, delay naming the person

912
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: and showing photos of the p all of that, and

913
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Speaker 2: we see this time and again. I mean, in some ways,

914
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: I think, well, there are a lot of the Nashville

915
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: Manifesto is now the most prominent example of it. I

916
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 2: always think back to the Pulse nightclub shooting where the

917
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: FBI this guy Omar Matin, who was the Sorry, I

918
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,959
Speaker 2: know we don't nave shooters, but anyway, there's this guy

919
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: who was the Pulse night club in a mass murderer

920
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: had called in and do you remember this Clay and

921
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: he had said, you know, I'm doing this for Isis,

922
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: I'm doing this for Allah. I'm a member of I'm

923
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Speaker 2: a Jihadis, like I explicitly saying it is to police

924
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: on a recorded line, and the FBI released transcripts removing

925
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: words like allah. So you know, he's like, I praise

926
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: felty to you know, cut it out.

927
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: Can't can't hear that?

928
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Speaker 2: And this was the FBI, and I was under the

929
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Speaker 2: Obama administration, the FBI that did this. Part of the

930
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Speaker 2: way that they get away with this, or at least

931
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Speaker 2: the way that they justified in their own minds, perhaps

932
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Speaker 2: they justified publicly, is they will say.

933
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Speaker 3: Oh, well, we don't want there to be.

934
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Speaker 2: There could be backlash against this community, which I'm sure

935
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Speaker 2: is a part of the Nashville Manifesto. Situation, right, Like, oh,

936
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: if if people found out about this transgender mass murderer

937
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: of children and that she did it because she thought

938
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: that kids should all be having transition surgeries and Tennessee

939
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: opposed to this whatever, then then then there would be

940
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Speaker 2: violence against trans people.

941
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Speaker 3: What's interesting is so.

942
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Speaker 2: They always assume that if there's some nass murderer who's uh,

943
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: you know, who's a white guy and a truly evil

944
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: piece of trash, none of that applies, Like, there's no

945
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: that that argument doesn't, does it, because.

946
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 3: Now you have people worse than that buck.

947
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: It's the next step of this is representative of how

948
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Speaker 4: heinous views like this are, which are all too common

949
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 4: in the white community. It's not just they take the

950
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 4: next step and say all of you collectively are responsible

951
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 4: for this guy's actions. And then when you have a

952
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 4: trans shooter, it's well, this is just a wone wolf.

953
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 4: This person doesn't in any way represent most trans people.

954
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 4: Or to your point, even when a guy is explicitly

955
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 4: saying I'm engaging in a violent terrorist act on behalf

956
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 4: of my belief in a religious organization, the immediate response

957
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 4: you get is, well, this guy isn't representative of most Muslims,

958
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 4: most members of the Islamic faith.

959
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, this is this is the way that

960
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: they do it.

961
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the way that they engage in

962
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 2: a politicization and propaganda after a horrific, violent event. And

963
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: we have all these I don't want to play these

964
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: sound bites just to be clear to our team, but

965
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: I'll just name some of them, like the Jacksonville City

966
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: councilwoman who accosted DeSantis and a congressman who blames DeSantis

967
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: for the Jacksonville shooting. To blame Ron DeSantis for what

968
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: happened in Jacksonville is completely insane. It is intellectually dishonest.

969
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: It is unethical to make that kind of connection. It's

970
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: also insane, it's irrational. What exactly what are they say?

971
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 2: Are they gonna go with the because of like, let's

972
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: take a step back. What has been the big objection

973
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 2: to Ron DeSantis from the activist contingent of the Democrat

974
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: Party and the black community within the Democrat Party apparatus

975
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: over the ap.

976
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: History curriculum or something like that.

977
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: Right, so it is now, is that why they're blaming

978
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: Ron de Santis for some mass murdering? You know, racist

979
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: white shooter. I mean, what in what do you see what

980
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: I'm saying? In what POSI universe? Rond Santis has got

981
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: Florida crime at a fifty year low. Everyone is safer

982
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: in this state because of Ronde Scantis by the numbers.

983
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 2: But then there's some racist who shoots a bunch of people,

984
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: kills himself, and you know, otherwise we'd be sitting here

985
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: talking about how he should get the death penalty. And

986
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: you're saying, what, how does this tie to Ronda Stantis, Like,

987
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 2: it's such a slander. As my point, it's such a

988
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: grotesque slander, and mainstream Democrats are thrown it around like

989
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: it's no problem.

990
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, well they want to brand him as racist. And

991
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 4: I will just point this out. The only reason that

992
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 4: the media covers most black murders is if a white

993
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 4: person is involved. Just think about that for a minute.

994
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 4: Black death, when it occurs at the hand of another

995
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: black person, no one in the media pays attention.

996
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 3: If you actually want to talk.

997
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 4: About systemic racism, just think about this for a minute.

998
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 4: Let it percolate in your mind. Is it only caring

999
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 4: about black death when a white person is involved in

1000
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 4: taking it? Evidence of black lives not mattering, because the

1001
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 4: black life only matters when there is a white individual

1002
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 4: involved in taking it otherwise all and by the way,

1003
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 4: that's a tiny penprick of the black murder rate.

1004
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: Well, this is because there's no there's no political advantage

1005
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: in talking about black on black crime for Democrats. That's

1006
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 2: that's the or black on black murder for Democrats.

1007
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 3: It's it's not even discussed.

1008
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the reason that they focus so much when

1009
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 2: there is and it is statistically it does happen, but

1010
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: it is statistically uncommon, h A. And that's across that's

1011
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: not even just a racist incident like this where there

1012
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 2: is a racial animist that we you know, because I've

1013
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: already released the manifesto, we know this guy was a

1014
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 2: racist lunatic. But even just a white on black murder

1015
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: in general is statistically uncommon if you break down the

1016
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: data for murders. But they focus dramatically on it, and

1017
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: there's this NonStop media coverage of it. And it is

1018
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: to your point before about how the narrative is that

1019
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 2: this is somehow representative of a white supremacist culture, of

1020
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: the Republican Party, of Rohn de Santis, of Donald Trump,

1021
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: of whoever and they just use it recklessly, this narrative

1022
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: as a club to swing at people, to hit people with.

1023
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: And it's gross.

1024
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 2: And it's particularly gross because it's used, I think as

1025
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: a smoke screen, or it's used as a shield from

1026
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: having to actually look at where are most of the

1027
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: murders occurring, who are the victims of most of the murders,

1028
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: who is committing most of the murders, and how do

1029
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 2: we bring those numbers down so everybody is safer?

1030
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: Like what can be on as a policy? That's not

1031
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 3: the discussion.

1032
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: The discussion is some some racist, loser maniac shoots a

1033
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: bunch of people and it's Governor Ron DeSantis's fault, Like,

1034
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: this is what they do. This is how democrats are.

1035
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 4: Let's give, by the way credit, you mentioned the Democrat

1036
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 4: Jacksonville City council member actually defended DeSantis. I think we

1037
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 4: have a clip from that. Sorry, yeah, that's that's that is.

1038
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 4: Make sure we get that right. Uh, let's listen to that.

1039
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: I I've heard it, I think, but let's let all

1040
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 4: of you hear it as well.

1041
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: We are not going to allow these institutions to be

1042
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 2: targeted by people.

1043
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 5: We Okay, listen, let me let me tell you, we

1044
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 5: finna put parties aside because it in and about parties

1045
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 5: to date, A bullet don't know a party, so don't

1046
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 5: get me started.

1047
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: She's absolutely correct, and bravo to her. Jacksonville City Council.

1048
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 2: So it was it was a Congressman Max Frost who

1049
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: blamed Ron DeSantis for the Jacksonville shooting. But Jacksonville City council,

1050
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 2: do we what's her name, do we? It's not on

1051
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: the cut sheet here, but Jacksonville City council woman. It

1052
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: says a cost DeSantis, but it's actually a Costa Santis.

1053
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: Heckler's on the next line. So good for her for

1054
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: making it about what it should be about, which is uh,

1055
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: bringing the community together, trying to trying to heal, and

1056
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: and letting everybody know that, yeah, we're all opposed to

1057
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: any actions like we're opposed to a murder across the board.

1058
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: Certainly a posed to murder that involves any kind of

1059
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: animus against an individual because of you know who that

1060
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: individual is or how they look.

1061
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 4: Jacobe Pittman, Democrat councilwoman there, and I also just point

1062
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 4: out buck as we go to break here. DeSantis went

1063
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 4: immediately to this incident that took place in Jacksonville that

1064
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 4: was of a a racially motivated angle and showed up

1065
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 4: to try to address the issue. Maybe just compare that

1066
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: a little bit with Biden, who doesn't in any way

1067
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,560
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1068
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:21,080
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1069
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,600
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1070
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 4: that are happening all over the country in which typically

1071
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 4: a president would show up, and people say, why does

1072
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,160
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1073
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