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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my trusted

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Speaker 1: colleague West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our

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Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field. Hope everybody had a happy Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: and wes our final show of the week and that

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Speaker 1: means keys to victory Here Packers Vikings Sunday Night football

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Speaker 1: US Bank Stadium in downtown Minneapolis, the rematch of week

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Speaker 1: two which ended in a nine overtime tie. Both of

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Speaker 1: these teams need a victory here. West, I know the

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Speaker 1: Vikings are one game ahead of the Packers in the standings,

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Speaker 1: but both teams looking at this in a lot of

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Speaker 1: respects as a must win. Where do you want to

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Speaker 1: start well, first off, Mike, I want to start off

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Speaker 1: with that tremendous Thanksgiving dinner that I had. It's my

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Speaker 1: favorite holiday. I don't know if you know. That's my

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Speaker 1: favorite holiday as well. Trains, planes and autmobiles. Always watched

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Speaker 1: that every year. Tremendous time, great office, awesome moments with

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Speaker 1: the family. But now we're back to football and the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers have any credibly important game coming up

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Speaker 1: here with the Minnesota Vikings. My biggest key for this

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Speaker 1: particular game all revolves around Aaron Rodgers, because, if you

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Speaker 1: go back Mike, the last two encounters with the Vikings

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Speaker 1: have both been surrounding Aaron Rodgers and in his situation

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Speaker 1: and how things are at with him, this rivalry and

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Speaker 1: how it's been kind of brewing over the years with

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Speaker 1: the Vikings and Mike Zimmer and sort of the mental

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Speaker 1: chess match that these two teams have been playing. It's

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Speaker 1: always interesting to see the juxtaposition of how the Packers

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Speaker 1: offense attacks the Vikings and if you have Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: for a full sixty minutes, what that does in terms

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Speaker 1: of being able to challenge Mike Zimmer's scheme. I just

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Speaker 1: think that this is the type of game that if

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Speaker 1: you can get Rogers going, if you can get Davante

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Speaker 1: Adams going, being multiple like they've been recently, with Adams

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Speaker 1: not allowing a defense to really know where he's going

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Speaker 1: to be on any given play, Packers are gonna have

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Speaker 1: a lot of success. Aaron Jones is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: big part of it too. You have to be able

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Speaker 1: to develop the run, you have to be able to

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Speaker 1: challenge him in the trenches. But I think the Packers

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Speaker 1: if they're to walk out of us Bank Stadium with

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Speaker 1: a victory on on Sunday night, Aaron Rodgers has to

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Speaker 1: be a big part of it. Yeah, he definitely does.

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Speaker 1: And maybe this is one of those games like we

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Speaker 1: talked about a few weeks ago with the Rams game

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Speaker 1: for instance, where this maybe is the type of game

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has to be the best player on the

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Speaker 1: field in order for the Packers to win. When you

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Speaker 1: look at Packers Vikings history in Minneapolis West, whether you're

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Speaker 1: talking the games at the Metrodome or the last couple

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Speaker 1: of games at us Bank Stadium, it seems to always

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Speaker 1: come down to protection of Aaron Rodgers from that pass

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Speaker 1: rush of the Minnesota Vikings that is awfully, awfully good

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Speaker 1: and a pass rush that sacked Matthew Stafford in us

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Speaker 1: Bank Stadium ten times um just a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about the broken collar bone

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Speaker 1: from last year, but when US Bank Stadium opened, in

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Speaker 1: a couple of sack fumble type situations that that really

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Speaker 1: hurt the Packers in that game. And we all know

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Speaker 1: the you know in the Metrodome, which I actually think

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Speaker 1: when the Vikings would kind of get that defense in

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Speaker 1: that pass rush cranked up, the Packers would would really struggle,

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Speaker 1: even with Brett Farvett quarterback over the years. So, um,

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Speaker 1: protecting Aaron Rodgers is a real key here. And it's

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Speaker 1: see and it seems that that the majority of the

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Speaker 1: but the majority of the pressure Aaron Rodgers seems to

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Speaker 1: times in the past. And I know, setting a solid

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Speaker 1: But as much as Aaron Jones needs to run the

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Speaker 1: think it starts with trying to establish a solid of

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Speaker 1: a great point, Mike, And it's interesting you bring that up, because, yeah,

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Speaker 1: NFL in general has had to deal with here in

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Speaker 1: terms of defensive coordinators now dialing up more packages for

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Speaker 1: that point, that's where defenses are really making a big

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Speaker 1: many different ways that the Vikings can attack you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and when when you talk about, obviously, how the Packers

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Speaker 1: and all of that. But I'm gonna throw a couple

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Speaker 1: of stats at you here, West. I looked up the

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Speaker 1: last three times the Vikings have been beaten at US

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Speaker 1: season and a half, whatever you wanna call it. Detroit

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Speaker 1: those eight turnovers. That's how you beat Minnesota at US

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Speaker 1: and you turn those turnovers into points. That's the formula.

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Speaker 1: The Packers have done it before, They've done it to

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Speaker 1: other teams. They need to do it on Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: It's funny too. And you and I talked about earlier

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Speaker 1: of you know that right out, kind of like you

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Speaker 1: That's what that game reminded me of. And at the

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Speaker 1: we're going to get a unique perspective on this mike,

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Speaker 1: because last Thursday we were able to be in Century

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Speaker 1: US Bank. Yeah, I'm really interested to see if I

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Speaker 1: as far as the loudest ones, the Metrodome and the

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Speaker 1: as far as outdoor century Lincoln Seattle takes the cake there.

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Speaker 1: with the Minnesota Vikings, it's all about trying to get

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Speaker 1: rest of the game. Yeah, well, I want to get

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Speaker 1: nine cent refills on your Cafe Cruba coffee. All season long,

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Speaker 1: you talked about the fast start West. We've seen the

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Speaker 1: Packers do it in Los Angeles, tend to nothing lead

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Speaker 1: And really in both instances, the Packers handled it. They

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Speaker 1: want to get behind by multiple scores when you're on

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Speaker 1: the road in a venue like this. But the Packers

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Speaker 1: are just are due to play a fourth quarter, aren't they?

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Speaker 1: At some point here this fourth quarter thing is going

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Speaker 1: This coaching staff is too experienced and has had plenty

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Speaker 1: the sense it's it's a great point you make, and

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