WEBVTT - S3 Episode 9: Relentless Pursuit

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<v Speaker 1>Drafted is a production of tree Fork Media, Clutch Sports Group,

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio m M. Most people have that

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<v Speaker 1>are getting drafted, they're always the guys since freshman year,

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<v Speaker 1>always the best, one of the same. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't the case. Sophomore year of high school, I

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<v Speaker 1>was trash and football fist sting on JV. So, like

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<v Speaker 1>now that it's like literally less than a day away,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of starting to get surreal. I'm I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>cry I'm an emotional person, so I'll be tearing up

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about my process. I was talking to my mom's

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<v Speaker 1>instagram from like six years ago, watching all my high

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<v Speaker 1>school videos and all my old workouts and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's finally starting to get real for me. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to Drafted. I'm Steven Johnson and this is episode

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<v Speaker 1>nine of season three. In this episode, we'll meet our

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<v Speaker 1>sixth and final player of this season, Oregon State linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>Hammaka Rashid Jr. We'll be joining Hammacah and his family

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<v Speaker 1>in Phoenix, Arizona for their draft party, but first we're

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<v Speaker 1>returning to the mountains of Big Bear, California for cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron Bonham's big day and now it's finally here. Cam explains,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so it's the morning of the draft April.

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<v Speaker 1>We're about to late breakfast. But today I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell people, well unless it's just talking crazy, but from

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<v Speaker 1>my immediate family, I'm not telling him. I'm Mike, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep it as authentic as possible for you.

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<v Speaker 1>All good content. All right, I'll be back. Cam joins

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<v Speaker 1>his family in the living room, where they all wait

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<v Speaker 1>for the first round to begin. Shortly. All right, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>give me some wisdom you Yeah, I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>quiet on all of a sudden, come on, give me something.

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<v Speaker 1>All his normally talkative siblings are suddenly quiet, maybe finally

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<v Speaker 1>succumbing to the weight of what's at stake. So to

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<v Speaker 1>lighten the mood, Cam shows off his newest skill. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to Cam talked himself how to play the

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<v Speaker 1>piano while recovering from a knee injury last season. He

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<v Speaker 1>did this by following his same routine from football. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>He explains, physically, I just had to sit back and

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<v Speaker 1>do nothing for a little So that's the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever done that. So that was the biggest challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting in the garage doing curls, sitting with

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<v Speaker 1>my legs straight on the bench, and I wasn't allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to sweat, so I make it really put the fan

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<v Speaker 1>on me, sit there, do a set of curls. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to rest for like five minutes so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get sweating and get it affective. But I was any

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<v Speaker 1>any little way to still get working. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>that was the biggest challenge for me, to to actually

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and rest. And I knew that I still

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to do something productive. Let me challenge

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<v Speaker 1>myself mentally in a different way. So that's when I

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<v Speaker 1>started playing piano and fell in love with music. Ever since,

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<v Speaker 1>Cam assumed his process for football would directly translate. He

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<v Speaker 1>substitute finger drills on the keys for footwork on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>as if tackling a running back or covering a wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver are the same as combining notes and timing the pedals.

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<v Speaker 1>If always wanted to play the piano, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>super tough, super big challenge, And I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this does memic football. I gotta learn something. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>drill it and then make a big picture and we

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<v Speaker 1>able to make music. Same thing with football. Gotta learned

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<v Speaker 1>to playbook. You gotta do drills to try and get

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<v Speaker 1>the movements down. Then you put it together and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a full play. So let me challenge myself and start

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<v Speaker 1>learning this instrument that I love and have loved my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life. That never played it. Uh, that was like

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing I've done so far. Going into the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>NFL scouts thought Cam might make a better safety than

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<v Speaker 1>a cornerback. However, it's a big risk moving a player

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<v Speaker 1>to another position at the pro level. Many athletes aren't

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<v Speaker 1>open to the idea or the amount of work required,

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<v Speaker 1>and the early struggles can shatter their confidence or overwhelm

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<v Speaker 1>them completely. So almost every team asked Cam how he

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<v Speaker 1>felt about trying to change positions. Would he be all

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<v Speaker 1>right getting outside his comfort zone and learning a new

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<v Speaker 1>role on defense? Could he handle the mental challenges that

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<v Speaker 1>come with initially struggling, And what about the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time and commitment it takes to master these new skills. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty good now to the point where I can

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<v Speaker 1>play almost anything once I learn it. I can read

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<v Speaker 1>all the music, so it's just a matter of memorization. NASA.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm branching out to now I'm obsess of the

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<v Speaker 1>baskits are along with pianissa um, just trying to branch

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<v Speaker 1>out of the music and just keep learning. It was

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<v Speaker 1>this exact approach that got him here to draft day.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout the week, it was before school there we're start

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<v Speaker 1>workout starts at five, and then right after school another

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<v Speaker 1>practice on the field at the high school, and then

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<v Speaker 1>right back at five o'clock we're back up with the

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<v Speaker 1>facility doing our speed work, doing our lifting, and one

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<v Speaker 1>more DV workout. So it was it was at least

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<v Speaker 1>with fourteen hours a day of from the time you

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<v Speaker 1>wake up at five am and I'm not getting home

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<v Speaker 1>until seven at night after my last workout, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do homework and then right back and

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<v Speaker 1>now that was basically my whole routine even when I

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<v Speaker 1>got to college, still doing those crazy hours, still putting

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<v Speaker 1>it in extra hours. When a whole year without missing

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<v Speaker 1>a dave doing extra work. So that's that's really been

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<v Speaker 1>the whole story of my entire career. In addition to

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<v Speaker 1>the fourteen hour work days, Cam added another layer once

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<v Speaker 1>he started playing in college. I talked to the quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>to the receiver coach, and the offensive coordinator after games

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<v Speaker 1>just say what what did you see him my game

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<v Speaker 1>that made you do this this or that? And after

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<v Speaker 1>games I'm d M and receivers like, okay, what was

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<v Speaker 1>going through the film room that week? And how are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys planning to beat me? After games, Cam questioned

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<v Speaker 1>opposing quarterbacks and coaches about his weaknesses. Then he continued

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<v Speaker 1>texting opposing receivers for days, desperately seeking any edge to

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<v Speaker 1>improve and any new area to work on. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>when of those NFL teams asked Cam if he'd be

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<v Speaker 1>open to learning a new position like safety, instead of

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<v Speaker 1>answering their questions, maybe he should have just played them

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<v Speaker 1>a song or two. Meet hammaca Rashid Jr. Linebacker from

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon State University. I had a lot of meetings, play

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<v Speaker 1>I every meeten and I had to play two teams.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about, um, how did I drop from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen sacks zero? And that's pretty much where I'd answered

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<v Speaker 1>his whole drive time. And that's probably the biggest question.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've been asked arguably no prospect and the entire

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<v Speaker 1>draft has a wider range of possible outcomes than Hammoca.

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<v Speaker 1>He's projected to be picked anywhere from late in Round

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<v Speaker 1>one too late in the seventh round. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>at almost any point in the entire draft. This is

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<v Speaker 1>because Hamaca had possibly the two craziest back to back

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<v Speaker 1>seasons out of anyone in college football. Two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>he had fourteen sacks, barely trailing last year's number two pick,

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL defensive Rookie of the Year, Chase Young. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he decided to come back for his senior season. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Hammokah elaborating, Yeah, I wanted to come back and be

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<v Speaker 1>a top teen. You know what they're saying, I'm top thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>You know thirty people are better me. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>come back, and so I'm like, no, these thirty people

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<v Speaker 1>are not betting me. All these sixty people are not

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<v Speaker 1>betting me. That's really motivated me to go back. He

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<v Speaker 1>returned to Oregon State and only recorded two tackles for

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<v Speaker 1>a loss and zero sacks. So naturally everyone wants to

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<v Speaker 1>know how and why that happened. And this is why

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<v Speaker 1>he has a nearly unprecedented draft range and why he

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<v Speaker 1>and his family are feeling a little nervous right now.

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<v Speaker 1>As the final few pre draft minutes take away his mother,

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<v Speaker 1>Misha McLamore especially, begins to struggle with the tension. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting down there. Yeah, I like down and we're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting Mischia takes a seat on the couch to

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<v Speaker 1>try to calm herself. She's struggling with a similar question

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<v Speaker 1>and the fel executive's face. What's next for Hannock's career?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he the player from two seasons ago or the

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<v Speaker 1>one from last year? Which player is the real hammockaver

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<v Speaker 1>Sheet Jr. To answer that question, you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back to his childhood where he grew

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<v Speaker 1>up playing sports with his three brothers in South Phoenix, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>Growing on yesterday. You know, I had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people going outside playing basketball and football, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's when it started my football career, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talking all the people in the streets, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hot deserts, scrapes and bruises and all types of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that was you know, no fun times. For sure,

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<v Speaker 1>football was fun. Hannaka played in the youth leagues along

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<v Speaker 1>with the pickup games in the neighborhood. He'd go crashing

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<v Speaker 1>into anyone and everyone, no matter the age or size

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<v Speaker 1>or whether he was on the field or a paved street.

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<v Speaker 1>The tackling and chasing and collisions all felt natural. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm just born like this. You know, I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>back down, you know. Sorry early age. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, probably my older brothers they made me tougher.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm always fighting man, I'm fighting your friend

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and I'm not backing down. The

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<v Speaker 1>probably started from my brother and my dad. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're always tough on me and working me being fearless.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fearless and I'm not scaring. You know. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>heart and how tough you are. Like DeVante Smith getting

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<v Speaker 1>pushed her ounto the basketball court. As a younger kid,

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<v Speaker 1>Cammica grew up always playing against older siblings and bigger

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<v Speaker 1>kids in the neighborhood. Here's his older brother DeAndre on

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<v Speaker 1>those intense childhood games, like any other big brother. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna you're gonna pick on the little ones. It's

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<v Speaker 1>my to make sure you're coming you tough. Most things

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<v Speaker 1>about happen. Like I said, we all was rough. So

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<v Speaker 1>even though my mom trying to protect you, to keep

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<v Speaker 1>us clean, we're just like any other kids. We're bad

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<v Speaker 1>we're playing, you know, picking on each other, that type

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<v Speaker 1>of ordeal. So as Hammer came along, the one visual

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<v Speaker 1>thing I got about ham He usually had his arch

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<v Speaker 1>little hockey stick like he's probably like I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>the water too, and he probably had like a pull

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<v Speaker 1>up ball. He ran to the house chasing as little

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<v Speaker 1>a little as he was chasing us, you feel me,

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like that could have been another thing

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<v Speaker 1>where he was. He was crazy and the football he

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<v Speaker 1>already had it even as a toddler him I would

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<v Speaker 1>chase his older brothers to the house with a hockey stick,

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<v Speaker 1>already playing like a future linebacker looking for someone to hit.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I started at the early age, I know

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna be a for all players because I

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<v Speaker 1>was just tough as a one, ain't I'm fighting, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>picking on kids three times bigger than me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not backing down out there, just putting my head

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<v Speaker 1>and hitting arry kid out there. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I learned that. I think I learned that us like

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<v Speaker 1>probably seven nine years old, and and I didn't look

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<v Speaker 1>back to Sinderstand. Despite some success, Hammaka wasn't heavily recruited

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<v Speaker 1>or getting much publicity during his first two seasons of

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<v Speaker 1>high school. Then everything changed his junior year. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really recruited. Um, I end up had to get like

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<v Speaker 1>ten sacks in one game, and that's what I'm everything like,

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<v Speaker 1>offers started trying to come. You know, I blew up

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<v Speaker 1>my last two years. But nobody knew me until. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's that. That's that line of having twenty sacks in

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<v Speaker 1>my jail year. In case you think you misheard those

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<v Speaker 1>cartoonists sounding statistics, Hammaca recorded ten sacks in one game

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<v Speaker 1>his junior year of high school and twenty for the season.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just pinned dn and honest f ls, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just running past the kids the whole time and just unstoppable.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, I was just pretty easy,

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<v Speaker 1>just getting off the bar, just honestly. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>say it counted, but you know, tis saxs tis sacks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so you can do that in the video game. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>following the best performance of his football career, everything in

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<v Speaker 1>the himcas like quickly turned once again. I had twenty sacks,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of tiger for losses. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>glowing up. I had a great year, but into my

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<v Speaker 1>senior year, my parents end up breaking up and he

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<v Speaker 1>broke up, and that led to me moving in with

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<v Speaker 1>my mom, Me and my little brother. We end up

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<v Speaker 1>having to live with my my oldest brother for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months, and I wasn't sure where I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go. Uh. I was um sharing rooms from my

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<v Speaker 1>nephew and my little brother, So you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>tough time. Hammaco and his younger brother, along with her mom,

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<v Speaker 1>moved into his older brother's apartment in a new school district.

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<v Speaker 1>That meant Cammica would now be attending a new high

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<v Speaker 1>school for his senior year. His mom, Misha, recounts those

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<v Speaker 1>traumatic days. It was a trying time for all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>We had just went through our family breakup and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he would just had to be strong. It

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<v Speaker 1>was his senior year that everything happened before we got

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<v Speaker 1>to Chandler, and the whole life just changed. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just said, okay, we'll have a goa. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>figure this out. So I said, whatever I gotta do,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever I have to do, we're gonna get through this.

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<v Speaker 1>And with the grace of God and my my dad's

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<v Speaker 1>deceased now, but he was there and then my grandmother,

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<v Speaker 1>she stepped in and my other grandma, who just passed

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<v Speaker 1>away two months ago. My family came together and helped

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<v Speaker 1>me to make sure that me and my boys would

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<v Speaker 1>be fine. And it was a child Mischa and her

0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.560
<v Speaker 1>parents and grandparents all came together to care for the

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<v Speaker 1>boys and work with the coaches at Hammonka's new high school, Chandler.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Russell Scott. I am I'm assistant football

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<v Speaker 1>coach at Chandler High School. I am also a teacher

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<v Speaker 1>on campus as well, and I know him by way

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<v Speaker 1>of football. Of course, we knew of him and we

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<v Speaker 1>did hear about this tensack game that he had, and

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<v Speaker 1>we knew he was special. But my relationship with with

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<v Speaker 1>him was more after practice. He also, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>had a hip injury at the beginning, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>would take him to physical therapy, so he and I

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<v Speaker 1>would ride along, you know, So we had twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>therapy and twenty minutes back from therapy, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do leadership here at Chandler, and so much of

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<v Speaker 1>our conversation was, you know, about life, because we knew

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<v Speaker 1>he had the physical tools to make something happen for himself.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also want to know about his mentor background.

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<v Speaker 1>He want to know his goals and his aspirations as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so much of of my conversation with him

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<v Speaker 1>came from being off the field. Coach Scott and Hammaca

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<v Speaker 1>began to bond, and because Hamaca didn't know a single

0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.360
<v Speaker 1>person at his new high school, this relationship provided him

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<v Speaker 1>with someone to turn to for help during this dark period.

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<v Speaker 1>He did have some things going on family wise. He

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<v Speaker 1>also had some academic things going on as well. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when he came over to Chandler, we let

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<v Speaker 1>him know. So if a kid has the utmost the

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<v Speaker 1>potential to play at the next level Division one, two three, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we we delve into him and we do transcript research.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we put together a plan for for him.

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<v Speaker 1>And it took him getting all a's and beats both

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<v Speaker 1>semesters in order for him to to really have a

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<v Speaker 1>shot to go anywhere. Hamaca's living situation is unsettled. His

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<v Speaker 1>parents are recently divorced, and he has to start over

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<v Speaker 1>at a new high school with a new football program

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<v Speaker 1>where he doesn't know anyone. Then he discovers that he

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<v Speaker 1>has to get all a's and b's both semesters to

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<v Speaker 1>academically qualify to play college football. His senior year quickly

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<v Speaker 1>turns into the greatest challenge of his young life, and

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<v Speaker 1>his decorated twenty season disappeared into the background as everyone

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<v Speaker 1>wonders whether he will be able to rise to the

0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:45.480
<v Speaker 1>occasion on and off the field. We'll be right back like.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Scott and the staff at Chandler High School called

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting with Hannukah and his mom to deliver the

0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:04.040
<v Speaker 1>tough news about his respects my high school coaches. They

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<v Speaker 1>sent me down. He was like, listen, there you have

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say. I had like a two four

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<v Speaker 1>two three g p A. And they were like, you

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<v Speaker 1>have all these schools coming up to us talking about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're a great athlete. You you can do

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. You have talk of production and stuff

0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:19.960
<v Speaker 1>like that. But it was like, you're having no grades.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta do the S A T. S uh. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's S A T or the other one. And

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<v Speaker 1>they pretty much tled me down. And I believe Coach Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the guy that he sent me down, he

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<v Speaker 1>told me he's planning this whole map out. He was like, listening,

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to buckle down and get straight a's

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<v Speaker 1>to qualify, And he's like, I know you're doing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe all your Harvard will pay off. If you

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<v Speaker 1>buy into this, buy into what I'm saying right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be in college. Hamaka needed to excel in the

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<v Speaker 1>classroom and on the football field, and he needed to

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<v Speaker 1>do that amid the turbulence and emotional challenges with his

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<v Speaker 1>life at home. She's sick because she's out of she's hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's tough, you know, watching her come home

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<v Speaker 1>from work and just go straight to the room, and

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<v Speaker 1>I really, you know, obviously all that stuff is just

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<v Speaker 1>tough to see. So I feel like that's probably the

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<v Speaker 1>toughest party. You know. He wasn't sure if she was

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<v Speaker 1>physically ill, suffering emotionally, or both. Under these conditions, his

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<v Speaker 1>life seemed to be facing acrossroads. He could use these

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<v Speaker 1>challenges to focus and further commit to his goals, or

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<v Speaker 1>he could understandably wilt under the intense pressure bearing down

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<v Speaker 1>on every part of his life and give up. So

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like for me, it was just being there

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, being strong for her mom because she's

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<v Speaker 1>having a tough time just having her not worry about

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<v Speaker 1>me because she already has so much stuff to worry about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I don't have my mom stressed about me.

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<v Speaker 1>And see where I'm at. And I just took it

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<v Speaker 1>as I go to show my mom like I can

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<v Speaker 1>help her. And you know, doing everything right helped me.

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<v Speaker 1>See Claire, I wanted to get to college and now

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<v Speaker 1>you know the NFL. Hammock A committed himself to these

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<v Speaker 1>goals in a new way, throwing himself into his schoolwork

0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.680
<v Speaker 1>and football. Here's Coach Scott on what he saw from

0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Hammoca during this period. He had to go to tutoring

0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and so he had to get with his teachers. He

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<v Speaker 1>had to sit in there and and and study for

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<v Speaker 1>another hour or so before practice, you know. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he once he made out the practice, he gotta study

0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:30.960
<v Speaker 1>out there on the field too, so you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was putting in time. Then after school and he did

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<v Speaker 1>go to the public library, which is down the street

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<v Speaker 1>from this house. He went to the public library in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get some homework done because I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>they had an internet connection in the apartment that he

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<v Speaker 1>was staying in with his mom and brother while he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to school. Here's Hammocka again on these compounding challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>I pretty much bought it and worked my butt off

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a library for like three or four

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<v Speaker 1>hours and study with an S A T guy. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously math and stuff was hard. To end up getting

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<v Speaker 1>straight a's probably for my first time in my life

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<v Speaker 1>and kind up qualified and I was just so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>He qualifies for Division one football and follows up his

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.119
<v Speaker 1>twenty SA junior year with thirteen more sacks as a senior.

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<v Speaker 1>This leads to hammaca committee to Oregon State, planning to

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<v Speaker 1>join his older brother there who plays on the basketball team. Finally,

0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the dark days are behind him, until what seemed like

0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:43.399
<v Speaker 1>the perfect situation in college quickly turns into another bad dream.

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<v Speaker 1>Our freshman year, end up traveling every game thinking I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna play, you know, the coach telling me to

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<v Speaker 1>get ready, stretch and stuff like that, and I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>going me in. At the last like two games, he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm your ash, saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he is like seeing you to do elemental lived and

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<v Speaker 1>that was that, and it was pretty tough. I was

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<v Speaker 1>working my butt off, you know, I was probably just

0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 1>stronger than just starting linebacker and faster than him. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working my butt off from doing everything right, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't get that chance. And second year comes

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<v Speaker 1>around the same thing. I end up playing this special

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<v Speaker 1>team my second year, um doing everything right out there,

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<v Speaker 1>smacking people, smacking people around on kickoff and punt and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, with the hopes of, you know, playing

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<v Speaker 1>on defense. And I think I want to say, I

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<v Speaker 1>probably got eleven plays that whole second year on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't getting to play, and he certainly wasn't having

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<v Speaker 1>the same fun he used to when he was younger.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a tough time and I couldn't do nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about that. You know. Everyone went around me was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you're not playing. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably what this motivated me. Even are those years,

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 1>those past years, I'm just like, they don't believe me.

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>They don't see what I see, and they are not

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>even gonna give me the chance to even try to show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what probably the hardest part was anger, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just not playing. You know, you're not playing football. You

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 1>just YEA, obviously you can lose yourself. Because mom Misha

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<v Speaker 1>tried to stay positive despite the difficult years adding up

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and Hammka's brother transferring to another university. We just try

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to do is just encourage him and still hanging there

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.560
<v Speaker 1>for him, never playing, from him always playing football for

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<v Speaker 1>now everything stopped. Your whole life changed. Just still trying

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to encourage him to just keep pushing forward even though

0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:49.600
<v Speaker 1>he's not playing. So it was a rest time. And

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:51.200
<v Speaker 1>then for your brother to be there, and then he's

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.880
<v Speaker 1>no longer there, and the first first time I ever

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<v Speaker 1>leaving home and our households had changed completely. So we

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 1>just had to keep encouraging him and until you can

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 1>figure this part out. Once again, her son faced a

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>daunting period in his life. No matter where he looked,

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.199
<v Speaker 1>he didn't see a clear road to better times ahead.

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back. Despite all the challenges, Hamaca's mom, Misha,

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<v Speaker 1>never lost faith. She explains, I said I would do

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<v Speaker 1>what I have to do to fixes and I'm would

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<v Speaker 1>support you guys, regardless of what we just went through.

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, I need you guys to do your job too,

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<v Speaker 1>So you expect to me the hand of my business.

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I need to do hand of yours, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get there regardless. Yeah, even if we had that was

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Hammaca's stepdad Chris Acklamore in the background talking about driving.

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>He came out eighteen how okay came home. It was

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>like spring breaker with I don't know what it was,

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>but he came home and we had got him a

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.200
<v Speaker 1>plane ticket to go back to Oregon. So we got

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to the airport drop hammca off after flying home to

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Arizona for spring break. Hamaka is now returning to campus

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the semester at Oregon State. Drop

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<v Speaker 1>him off at the airport. He calls, we weren't even

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 1>back dead to the apartment yet. Mom, the plane left me.

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean the plane left year? What do

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>you mean? What do you mean? And so trying to

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>faire out, Okay, he has to be back to school

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the next day or so. He's like, I'm trying to

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>figure out how to buy another plane ticket. Everything was

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>like two dollars one way. Looks at Chris, he said,

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>we drive there? What did you mean? We went and

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 1>picked that to go back up from the airport. Twenty

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 1>two hours we drove him back to Oregon. Just not

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>time to get to practice. When I say driving off

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>to you were attack team and have a go to

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>sleep there in the back of the Seguoya. We were

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>just driving twenty twenty two hours. Twenty two hours of driving,

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>two years without playing, his brother transferring from Oregon State.

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Throughout it all, hammock As simply tried to persevere. Research

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>shows the most predictive traits for success are persistence and grit,

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>showing up for practice and tutoring day after day, dragging

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>yourself to the public library, having a family who picks

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you back up metaphorically off the ground and literally from

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>the airport and get you back on your way. This

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>is what Hammaca and his parents did, and suddenly one

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:08.360
<v Speaker 1>day it paid off. Going into Hammoca's red shirt sophomore year,

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the Oregon State Beavers hired a new head coach, Jonathan Smith,

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and just like that, everything in Corvallis oregan changed. Third

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>year and I got a new coach of staff and

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>finally got to play football, like three years. I was

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>just thinking this whole time, like you might not see

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>it now, but I'm gonna make someone pay. And I

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>was honestly wanted to play that old coaching staff and

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>just go crazy on that on their team and just

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>showed them like this is the guy you had on

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the bench the whole time, you know, and you didn't

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>even give him the shot to even try. You know.

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 1>He got like twelve tackles, twelve two typles Watson and

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 1>some sids. And I was just like, wow, this football

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>feels like a year. I haven't played so long since

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 1>high school. But after that, you know, the sky was

0:27:56.200 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 1>a lament his red shirt junior year in all the

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>pieces came together, the joy was back, and football became

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>fun again. So fun it was. It's so much fun,

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, thinking about like, oh, I'm out here getting

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>respect from other teams and everyone was like, yeah, you're

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>a great player doing this. I remember Vivily like issue

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>like tackles. He was just like me a game. I

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>ran past him and I got like another tiger for loss.

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>He was like, bro, you're killing me. He was like, bro,

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I really can't stop to me. I end up trying

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>to like be like a one arm staff and he

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>like knocked my hand down and I fell to the

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>ground and he was like, yes, I got him. You

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.479
<v Speaker 1>finally got him. And I was just like this is funny.

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like really crazy, Like he finally got me. On one,

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm killing the whole game. So I feel like overall,

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just it was a great year. So I was

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>just just me just getting back to football and being

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>out there being destructive and making plays the biggest difference,

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm just out there being free, letting me

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>go over as you left me play football. Hammka registered

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>fourteen sacks that year along with the twenty two and

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a half tackles for loss. He catapulted into the national

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>spotlight and became a first team All American and then

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>surprisingly he decided to return for his senior season. It

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>was tough to think about right now, but um, yeah,

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I broke my thumb has curgery at the end of

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the year for you know, tween ninety year. So you know,

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>my big reason why I was gonna go to draft

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>was that I couldn't do the benches and combine stuff.

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>So that really affected me. And I think I was

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>like projected top thirty or something around there, and I

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>felt like I could definitely improve and do another great

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>year and go up and become a you know, top

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>ten pick. That's always been my dream, you know, always

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>want to be a top ten pick. And that's why

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I really that's really motivated me, and I felt confident

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>what I had and what my coach has prepared me

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>for and the people around me. I feel like we're

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.959
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a way better here, not knowing you know,

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>COVID and all stuff is gonna happen. His goal for

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>a senior year is to become a top ten pick,

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and he's feeling as optimistic as ever. I'll still recovering

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>from pins in my hands, from broken down, and COVID

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>here comes. They're like, yeah, I just go home and

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>we just did one to two practices and they're like,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just getting started, and I'm like, wow, we gotta

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>go home now. COVID hit campuses across the country and

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Hammakah had to return home after justice first few practices.

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>We're I'm going home for four or five months. I'm

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>training my it off at home, working out with two coaches,

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>going to two places just to be stayed, and I

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>want to stay. After that delay, they canceled it. They

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>counsel our season. The PAC twelve conference initially calls off

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the entire year, then as the pandemic situation becomes clearer,

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>they eventually decided to play an abbreviated season all the

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>players returned for fall camp with new COVID protocols, including

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a test every single morning. I woke up at six

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a five am to get tested at or the state,

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and the trainer came in and talk to me. I

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>was in the meeting room, he was about to start

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>doing meetings and he came in and he was like, heym,

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I need you. He talked to you, and I'm like, hey,

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>can you need to talk to me about right? And

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>end up going downstairs with the trainer. He's like, you

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>just power for COVID. You test positive, And I was

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>like what. He's like, yeah, you need to go home

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>right now, like right now, and walking home and didn't

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>leave my house since then for four ten day and

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>probably was the most terrible time every fourteen days ever

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, what the heck? How right? And I'm

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like all I did was stay home and went to

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>go judge Mikes. So, so when we were at that time,

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>from going to get some food and from back to

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>practice or whatever, I got COVID. Somehow. He spent four

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 1>straight months training at home and finally recovered from his

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>broken thumb and then COVID. So I missed two weeks

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>of all camp, then have to come back after COVID

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and play. You know, I felt like COVID pretty much

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>hit me, and the hardest I would say, you know,

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I just have legs. You know you need you need legs.

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>You need legs to do everything you're doing for the wall,

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>your legs over eight from a sack to her. You know,

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel like all that stuff matters, and it definitely mattered.

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Hammica's COVID recovery was slow and drawn out. He didn't

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>have his usual first but once again he persevered. I

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to come back after COVID and play. Then

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>got hurt her my ankle pretty bad. Didn't try to

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>just get ready for the season and rehabbing a lot

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>of it and played a couple of games, just tore

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>up and you know, I'm just do whatever it thinks.

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>You're not trying to survive these couple of games. And

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>it just wasn't great. And obviously I didn't get a

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of stats, as you know a lot of people

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:37.479
<v Speaker 1>wanted me to have and obviously hurt me. You know,

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.479
<v Speaker 1>this is the one and only topic NFL teams focused

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>on whenever Hammakah talks to them. What happened. They all

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>want to know what happened to Hammaka. What happened was

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>a string of injuries and illnesses. He wasn't able to

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>play his best football. To his high school mentor coach Scott,

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>it was also a case of game plan when he

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>came back. You know, teams that already you know, understood

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>if if this kid is back around us, what we

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 1>have to do. He's way too strong, way too way

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>too fast for a single coverage. And so what the

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>teams started doing is they started double teaming to keep

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>him away from quarterbacks. So that was the biggest thing,

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:23.399
<v Speaker 1>was the adjustments that teams made against him. It wasn't

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>anything that he did wrong because that that wasn't the case.

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>But you know, your better teams aren't going to allow

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that to happen. You know, they learned about him and

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:36.320
<v Speaker 1>they learned how to slow him down. So the question

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>of what happened depends on who you ask and how

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>much they know about the last six years of Hammaker's life.

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>And when it comes to NFL scouts and executives, they

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 1>want to know absolutely everything. A lot of meetings, but

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, every meeting, and I had two teams were

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about, how did I drove from fourteen stacks zero?

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much where I had answered his whole drive time.

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's probably the jig question now, I mean I

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>asked injuries, double teams, COVID. Those are all part of

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>what happened this past season, though the real answer goes

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.280
<v Speaker 1>all the way back to the little kid playing football

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>in the streets of Phoenix, the one chasing down his

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 1>older brothers, having the most fun as he crashes into

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>kids all over the neighborhood. What happened this past season

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>is something that's happened many times before. He had a

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.959
<v Speaker 1>very tough year. Football stopped being fun for a little while.

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>But the recurring story of Hammocka's life is that no

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>matter what gets thrown at him, he always fights his

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>way back. He's been through ups and downs like this

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 1>many times before. Expectations were definitely high. Now I played

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 1>my worst football ness last year because love injuries, not

0:35:55.719 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>because no, I can't play great football. Next I'm drafted.

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>It was to me it was like a death and

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I had the baby at the same time, Like, what

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:14.879
<v Speaker 1>in the world just happening? I know, I just took

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>my mic off and when I'm staring and I was hot.

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm just mad, come on, call my phone with somebody.

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Somebody called my phone. But originally when I saw him

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>looking at his phone, like no, he's joking on my

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 1>phone into that this is the movie, It's like, this

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen, this isn't regular. So that's my that's my

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 1>little catchphrase do for the movie. Packers hit me and

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>turned to hit me. I'm like, what I'm trying. That's

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>when you have to push the motion to the side

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and say what are we gonna do best for him?

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>From seeing people get drafted with like no names and

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>like it's just it's just irritating. So I just broke down.

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>He didn't hear me crying on my side of the phone, bro,

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:59.040
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0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.760
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