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Speaker 2: Really good morning, sweet world.

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Speaker 1: Then welcome to the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, November thirteenth, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to check in at Camp Crystal Lake

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Speaker 1: later today. I'm Jay Skeets alongside me. As always, we

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Speaker 1: got Tasmellos, Hello everybody, Hello Tassy, We got the Bearded One,

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Speaker 1: Trey Kirbye. Hey hey, we got the international Man of

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Speaker 1: last but not least, making the magic happen. JD. Hello,

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Speaker 1: there is and here we are on a Friday. Guys,

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Speaker 1: keep your questions coming for our next beach step in podcast.

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Speaker 1: classics that we dropped earlier this week, even though it

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Speaker 1: feels like we dropped them three weeks ago to me,

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Speaker 1: but we did drop them earlier this week. We talked

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Speaker 1: to NBL broadcaster Liam Santa Maria about LaMelo balls game

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Speaker 1: and whether he's worth the number one pick next week.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of fun. Tastinly did a great job

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Speaker 1: with that one. Then we talked with John Hollinger about

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Speaker 1: his twenty twenty NBA mock Draft spoiler every prospect sucks

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Speaker 1: he's pivoting to politics and binge mode and NBA Desktop

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Speaker 1: and the time you pissed off Woes and Baby Yoda.

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun, so go check out that podcast

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Speaker 1: as well. But today, guys, oh my goodness, we got

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Speaker 1: so much to dissect here, and we're gonna play a

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Speaker 1: been so long since we've had that intro. I love

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Speaker 1: those bars, all right, So many topics to tackle here, guys.

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Speaker 1: First one, Russell Westbrook is seeking a trade from the Rockets.

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Speaker 1: According to the Athletics Sham Sharanya, Sam Amic and Kelly

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Speaker 1: Eco damn dream team right, there. Russ has been uneasy

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Speaker 1: is apparently still committed to the Rockets, so we can

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Speaker 1: get into the Rockets. But let's focus on Westbrook right now.

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Speaker 1: He's got three seasons what one hundred and thirty two

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Speaker 4: Man? This whole thing is weird? You want to talk weird?

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Speaker 4: I mean this escalated super quickly. The first report, according

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Speaker 5: The Knicks haven't totally been operating like they did through

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Speaker 5: As for the Hornets, they need a star. Westbrook has

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Speaker 5: but man imagining him on the Magic, it's just weird

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Speaker 5: weird to me. It just feels like it's a retirement

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a long retirement.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. Hell, we've talked so much

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Speaker 6: it's him settling for those mid rangers and the three

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Speaker 6: it's really kind of okay, Russ, do you want to

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Speaker 6: go to a team where you're potentially going to compete

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Speaker 6: to understand you're taking a much lesser role on a team.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 6: You just cannot be the leader on that team. If

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Speaker 6: just he's not anywhere closer to winning a championship and

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Speaker 6: it's just not a sexy team. Hornets of aren't that

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Speaker 6: That's where That's where we just want to see what

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Speaker 6: because I actually think again, Russell's best when he's on

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Speaker 5: You remember what happened with Westbrook and Utah, and now

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Speaker 1: The Jazz might be a playoff team, Like it's not

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Speaker 6: I actually feel with the Jazz he can he can

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Speaker 6: This is exactly what we want to do. We want

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Speaker 4: I saw that man. I saw that man on Twitter.

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Speaker 6: Yeah? The only reason would be if because they've got

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't they do that? Why wouldn't they do that?

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Speaker 4: What else do they have going for the next three years?

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Speaker 1: You know what's weird about that task? I do agree

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Speaker 1: we'll get the place rocket, We'll sell it every night.

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Speaker 4: For me, that almost increases the likelihood of them making

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Speaker 4: just it just makes too much sense. The Knicks love

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Speaker 6: It just it would just feel though that if they

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Speaker 6: And it's like what's the point. But again, like kind

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Speaker 4: one of the tougher divisions. So that's that doesn't bode

431
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Speaker 4: well for us. But he'll make some headlines. He'll be

432
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Speaker 4: firing away, he'll hit some game winners out there.

433
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Speaker 5: What I've said, it's hard to find a deal for

434
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Speaker 5: Russell Westbrook, but not for John Greenberg of the Athletic

435
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,160
Speaker 5: who within ten seconds of the sham Shranja report had

436
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Speaker 5: the trade going Otto Porter and Fad Young for Russell Westbrook.

437
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 5: The Bulls are in the playoffs if they make that trade,

438
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 5: and that's for two guys who are not going to

439
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 5: be part of their future.

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Speaker 3: I don't hate it.

441
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Speaker 5: It's Billy Donovan, now the head coach of the Chicago Bulls,

442
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 5: Westbrook's coach with the thunder.

443
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're taking the ball out of Zach Lavine

444
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 3: and Kobe White's hands.

445
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 5: But they could be competitive, I think, and it gives

446
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 5: you an identity and yeah, there are not going to

447
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 5: be fans and stands, but you still want your fans

448
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 5: to watch the games. I don't necessarily know that that

449
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 5: was high on the list of priorities for Bulls fans

450
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 5: last season. I can talk myself into Westbrooks.

451
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Speaker 1: Wow, so easily. Try What what if it took them,

452
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Speaker 1: because that's like, that's not a lot there, and I'm

453
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Speaker 1: a big Porter fan and Zach what about on a

454
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Speaker 1: Porter and Zach Levine? Yeah, you would do it at hertbeat?

455
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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean if you can trade Zach Levine

456
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Speaker 5: and bring in Russell Westbrook, what's the difference. One guy

457
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Speaker 5: who shoots the ball all the time, another guy who

458
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 5: shoots the ball all the time. One of them can

459
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Speaker 5: make a three at the end of the game.

460
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Speaker 1: Okay, what about the Clippers. Let's throw one more team

461
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Speaker 1: out there, Like there's a team that maybe actually does

462
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Speaker 1: of total aspirations. Ley, they could put something together. It

463
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Speaker 1: could involve Montres Herald like a sign in trade. It

464
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 1: could involve like a Beverly and Lou Williams and Zumats

465
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Speaker 1: and other pieces and a pick. No, you can make

466
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Speaker 1: it happen. You can get the salaries up there. I

467
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: mean that's maybe a little more entasing than the Rockets,

468
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Speaker 1: I would think too. But if you're the Clippers, you're bombered,

469
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Speaker 1: would you go all right, let's get real nuts, get

470
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Speaker 1: the third star Kawhi PG Westbrook, what do you think?

471
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't mind that, to be honest. I mean,

472
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 6: because they're all going to be on the same pages, like, hey,

473
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 6: let's do this. We've got the stars now. Because guys

474
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Speaker 6: like Patrick Beverley, I mean, he would have to be traded.

475
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Speaker 6: You can't have Westbrook and Beverly on the same team anyway.

476
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Speaker 6: But yeah, and he's an upgrade. Westbrook's definitely an upgrade

477
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Speaker 6: over Beverly. Beverly's a good defensive player, but offensively Westbrook

478
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Speaker 6: is better. And I think that would put him in

479
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Speaker 6: the right situation where he's, like, again, he's competing for

480
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Speaker 6: a championship, and I don't know about how combustible it

481
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 6: would be with another strong personality in that locker room.

482
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Speaker 6: Whether it'd be good or bad. But if you're Westbrook,

483
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Speaker 6: it's like, yeah, why not. He's going home to LA

484
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Speaker 6: He's going to a team that is a legit contender,

485
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 6: and he's going to play with other star players, so

486
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 6: he knows that he's going to have, you know, good

487
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Speaker 6: talent around him. How he would go and be able

488
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Speaker 6: to be like maybe on the third option on offense

489
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Speaker 6: here and how he would be able to cope with

490
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Speaker 6: that is a different story. But if you're Westbrook and

491
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Speaker 6: that deal is there and it's available, you've got to

492
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Speaker 6: go to the Clippers, for sure. I think that's the

493
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Speaker 6: best situation for him. And as you say, you'd have

494
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Speaker 6: to give up a lot, a few of the Clippers,

495
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Speaker 6: but no one, no one that you couldn't overcome. I mean,

496
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Speaker 6: Zubats was good in his role, you know, So he's

497
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Speaker 6: probably the one. But Lou Williams, I think he's probably

498
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Speaker 6: he's probably turned the page on his career where he's

499
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Speaker 6: now in decline a little bit and you could do

500
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Speaker 6: without him. And then yeah, if you if you're throwing

501
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 6: a Marcus Morris, somehow sign and trade to make the

502
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Speaker 6: salaries happen, do it. For sure? A few of the Clippers.

503
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you're going to spend all this

504
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Speaker 6: money if you get into the luxury tax. It's worth

505
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Speaker 6: it if you get the championship in the end.

506
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bomber might be just crazy enough and rich enough

507
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Speaker 1: to give it a go too. It'd be while to see.

508
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Speaker 5: Reunating Polodge George Westbrook unfinished business.

509
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Speaker 1: I love it. Hey, we always Trey, We always talk

510
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: about you know, KLi has his limitations as a leader.

511
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: You know, he sounds like he wants a point guard.

512
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: He wants a guy that's gonna bark at guys and

513
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: keep people accountable. That could be a Westbrook.

514
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Speaker 3: I mean, no doubt about it.

515
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Speaker 5: Remember Westbrook through the house hype party to welcome Paul

516
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 5: George back to Okay. See, he obviously knows how to

517
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Speaker 5: motivate Paul George. You get a DJ, you get some punch,

518
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 5: and you throw a massive party. He's good to go.

519
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know task anything. Any thoughts on the

520
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: Clippers possibility of getting into the mid Westbrook mix here.

521
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Speaker 4: I think the reuniting idea is just it's just too good.

522
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 4: I thought at first, before this all happened, that the

523
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Speaker 4: Rockets would go after Serge Ibaka. Then they'd have that

524
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 4: trio that used to hang out together and okay, see

525
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 4: James Harden himself and Surge. There was a chance there.

526
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Speaker 4: I think the Clippers aren't going to push for that though.

527
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 4: It's just chemistry is already a question mark, and then

528
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 4: you're adding Russ in there. I think they want to

529
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 4: try and do what they did last year and try

530
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 4: and get it right and then and then it would

531
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Speaker 4: also probably involve trading. There only big in Viatsa Zubats

532
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 4: or Montress Harral, I mean, both of those guys like

533
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 4: they would be super weak in the in the front court.

534
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 4: I know it's you'd have a really good team otherwise,

535
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Speaker 4: but I don't think there's a there's really a good

536
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Speaker 4: chance of that happening. There's just too many things that

537
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Speaker 4: they'd have to overcome. Don't like it.

538
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Speaker 1: I said this to you guys on the podcast. I

539
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Speaker 1: can't remember what show it was that I thought. I said,

540
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Speaker 1: like the Rockets were like veering into this team being

541
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Speaker 1: sort of irrelevant. I was worried about that. Was like,

542
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Speaker 1: I don't think people are going to care about the Rockets.

543
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: This was, of course, after D'Antoni leaves and then Morey

544
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: leaves and I said, you know, I could see them.

545
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Speaker 1: They start one in five, two and six, they get

546
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Speaker 1: off to a rough start. Whenever we start the season

547
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Speaker 1: that then we see these headlines like then we see like, oh,

548
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Speaker 1: I don't like the direction we're going from Harden or

549
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: Westbrook like I want out of here. Obviously, it took

550
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: the Rockets not even playing a game for Westbrook to

551
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: say that, what does this say trait about James Harden

552
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: in all? Honestee, these guys are buddies. They teamed up

553
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: there and this will now be it looks appears to

554
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: be the third superstar he's played with. At some point

555
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: there's like I don't want to play with this guy.

556
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to play on this team. At least

557
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's specifically hardened because he is

558
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: the team I would think it is. But like Dwight Howard,

559
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: Chris Paul and now Russell Westbrook, like it's a bad

560
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: look for your guy, James Harden. Is it not well?

561
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Speaker 5: At the very least, I think it says James Harden

562
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 5: is not changing the way he plays for literally anybody. Obviously,

563
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 5: Westbrook and Harden have been friends for twenty years. You know,

564
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 5: he came in and the thought was going to be

565
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Speaker 5: that Westbrook will be able to operate a lot on ball.

566
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Speaker 5: You can save Harden. He'll be ready in the playoffs

567
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 5: as we saw. It turns out that the Rocket season

568
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 5: ended basically the way every Rocket season has, with Harden slowing.

569
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: Down at the end and no off ball movement.

570
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Speaker 5: So if James Harden is not going to be working

571
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 5: hard when he doesn't have the ball, with Russell Westbrook

572
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 5: having the ball, it's not gonna happen in other places.

573
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Speaker 3: You see so many tweets, so many.

574
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Speaker 5: Posts, places that are saying the Rockets man, they got

575
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 5: James Harden. All they gotta do is encourage him to

576
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 5: play off the ball. Watch some Steph Curry tape, just

577
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 5: a little bit of movement and the Rockets offense gets

578
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 5: even better. It ain't gonna happen because the guy is

579
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 5: most comfortable having the ball, making every single play, taking

580
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 5: every single shot, making every single pass. I know, I'm

581
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 5: gonna still get lured into loving James Harden when he's

582
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 5: scoring the sixty and four straight games, but it doesn't

583
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 5: seem to necessarily translate to teams success. Will he ever

584
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 5: change the way he plays. I'm feeling pretty dubious about it.

585
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's so funny. I mean sort of

586
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: the same could be said for Russell Westbrook. Like you

587
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: get you get lured in with the forty point triuble

588
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: doubles in back to back games, and then you get

589
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: to the playoffs and it's a lot easier to figure

590
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: those guys out, and they slow down. Then they hurt

591
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: themselves at times. Yeah, I feel bad for Steven Silas's

592
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: task coming in here, Like the guys didn't waited twenty

593
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: years to get a crack at a head coaching job.

594
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Speaker 1: Finally does and GM's gone in a second, of course,

595
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: and now you got one of your superstars leaving. Who

596
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: knows that Harden's gonna eventually come around to like get

597
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: me the hell out of here. Feel bad for him.

598
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 4: Blessing in disguise. Maybe all the pressure is off and

599
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 4: you just become a coach.

600
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Speaker 1: It's interesting, that's interesting, Yeah.

601
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: Because he has he would have had a huge spotlight

602
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: on him. Right if both those guys are there, and

603
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: maybe they don't win, not necessarily because of him, but

604
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 4: because they've been struggling to win in the last couple

605
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 4: of years, so maybe this is a bit of a

606
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: blessing for him. How many years did he sign for

607
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 4: I forget, I don't know.

608
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. My guess would be three or four.

609
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: Seems to be the general signing for a new guy,

610
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: but I don't know, and have an idea he.

611
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: Was cheap, yeah, and it's tough for the front office, obviously,

612
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 4: Raphael Stone there taking over for Darryl Moury. The thing

613
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 4: that I thought of immediately was the tray that Daryl

614
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 4: Moray made to get Russell Westbrook was two first round

615
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 4: draft picks, two biggies and the right for Oka See

616
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: to swap two other first round picks plus Chris Paul.

617
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 4: The cupboard is super bear. And now if Westbrook goes

618
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 4: somewhere else, yeah, you can try and get a draft

619
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 4: pick for him. But I would have rather, if I

620
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: was Raphael Stone, bide my time for a couple of

621
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: years and try and work that for a little bit,

622
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: rather than be a worse team. Because either way, if

623
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 4: you trade Russ, no matter all these criticisms, they're gonna

624
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: be worse. They're just they're not going to be that good.

625
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: Right, But they're not going to be so bad when

626
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: you have James Harden on your team too, that's a

627
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: bit of a conundrum, Like he's so good that he

628
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: still wins you a ton of games even if he's

629
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: a one man show himself. But yeah, man, Sam Presty,

630
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: like he must be loving now those Rockets picks could

631
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: be enticing the swaps I'm talking about, Like you could

632
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: you start to think what he could do with those?

633
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: Uh and because we know, okayc sort.

634
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Speaker 3: Of in Rod, he might get three MVPs out of it.

635
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: That's right, you might do it again. You're absolutely right,

636
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe get to the finals. They did

637
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: get to the finals, won a game. But no, you're right.

638
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: They got so so many of their picks and the

639
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: Rockets I mean, if look, you said it, Westbrook gone,

640
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna be probably be worse Harden eventually goes. You know,

641
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna be worse if he does want out. Wow,

642
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: those are even better than they you know, looked at

643
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: first glance.

644
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: So but is this is there a chance that this

645
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: is just a push to the front office to tell them, hey,

646
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: we can't just go into next season doing the same

647
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 4: thing tilman for Tita, it's time for the luxury tax.

648
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 4: I know you're concentrating on being a restaurant tour, but

649
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 4: it's also time to pay up and go into the

650
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: tax for us because we're thirty two. It's time to

651
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: do it. Or is this hey, I'm done with this thing.

652
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: I think it's I'm done with this thing because it's

653
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: not just Westbrook. I mean we got like role players

654
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: saying I want more minutes and PJ. Tucker saying, hey,

655
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: show me my money. Yeah, pissed, even though he has

656
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: no right to be pissed whatsoever.

657
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: Buddy.

658
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, I mean, this was and this is

659
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: like the heavy hitters of uh, you know obviously the

660
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: NBA and Rockets world in Shams and Sam and and Kelly.

661
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you ain't getting more plugged in than that,

662
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: right task. I mean they don't need to wear ties. Okay,

663
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: they got they know this team and I'm gonna trust

664
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: what they're reporting. So this is this is bad and

665
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: this is the Dwight days. Yeah, a long time man,

666
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: rough rough if you're a Rockets fan right now, So

667
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: we'll see how this plays out. We we might have

668
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: to have correct me if I'm wrong. We had an

669
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: emergency podcast for the first Westbrook you know trade right

670
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: where he got shipped to Houston. Yeah, because I was

671
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: I was in Florida at the time.

672
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 4: Was that the beach, Yes, definitely, Yeah. I was calling

673
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: in from Toronto. Yeah, Lee and Trey were here and

674
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: we weren't even getting paid then we were free agents.

675
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, you're right, that was the free agent.

676
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: But we should be. We're getting paid now, so we.

677
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: Should do an emergency if Westbrook it's okay, we probably will.

678
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: We probably will. All right, let's keep it going here again.

679
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: So much to talk about. Next one. The Suns are

680
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: interested in Chris Paul. Those are reports the Celtics might

681
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: pack there are three first round picks fourteen, twenty six,

682
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: and thirty to move into the lottery and then flip

683
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: that for Drew Holiday. That's a report. Coyle Enard, Well,

684
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get Westbrook, he would like Chris Paul.

685
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: That's a report. The Hawks. They've emerged as possible trade

686
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: suitor for the Pelicans guard Drew Holiday. That's a report.

687
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: My goodness, there's a lot going on, especially with those

688
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: two names, Chris Paul and Drew Holiday. So I'll ask

689
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: it this way, Trey, you get a started favorite trade

690
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: rumor CP three to the Suns, drew to the Celtics,

691
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: CP three to the Clippers, or drew to the Hawks.

692
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: What you got?

693
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 5: I love a law skeets. I think these are all

694
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: fabulous rumors. Let me run them through real quick. Chris

695
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 5: Paul to the Sons is interesting because it makes the

696
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 5: Suns a little bit interesting. The last thing we saw

697
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 5: from them eight no in the bubble. If you're adding

698
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 5: a defensive minded veteran presence, you gotta think that helps, especially,

699
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 5: you know, assuming Ricky Rubio will likely be gone. Chris

700
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 5: Paul certainly an upgrade there, and according to Brian Windhorse,

701
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 5: Chris Paul has the approval of the Thunder to be

702
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 5: speaking with the Sons with which skirts tampering room because

703
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 5: Chris Paul knows every single rule. This guy knows every

704
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 5: rule in the entirety of the NBA. He knows you

705
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 5: got to have your jerseys tucked in, and he knows

706
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: that if you get approval from your team, even if

707
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: you're the Players Association president, you can go and fake

708
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 5: Tampa with other teams. I think that's just brilliant stuff.

709
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 5: The guy has done his homework. I'm good thinking Drew

710
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 5: to the Celtics hilarious because the Celtics are always trading

711
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 5: for whoever is available. Paul George, Jimmy Butler, Anthony Davis,

712
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 5: Kawhi Leonard. Now it's Drew Holliday. Will it happen?

713
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

714
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 5: I also like CP three to the Clippers for the history.

715
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 5: It's easy to work out the math because all of

716
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 5: the players who were traded from the Rockets to the Clippers,

717
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 5: when Chris Paul went from the Clippers to the Rockets,

718
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: they're basically still there, so you just throw them in

719
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 5: the mix. It's very funny that most of these players

720
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 5: were seeing traded for each other this offseason were the

721
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 5: same ones that were in the mix a couple of

722
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 5: offseasons previous. And Drew Holliday to the Hawks I think

723
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 5: is also great. It accelerates their rebuilt, which is exactly

724
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 5: what Drew Holliday going to the Pelicans did a few

725
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 5: years back. If the Hawks want to try and be

726
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 5: the eighth seed just like the Pelicans did, the same

727
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 5: thing is probably gonna happen for the Hawks. You don't

728
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 5: trade a whole bunch of young pieces to try and

729
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 5: make the eighth seed unless you're just trying to make

730
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 5: the eighth seed, and sometimes that's the goal for an

731
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 5: NBA team. So I thought these were all juicy just

732
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 5: because they all kind of fit perfect narratives of things

733
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 5: we've seen before in the past for players personnel wise,

734
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 5: something that's interesting. Chris Paul to the Suns, to me,

735
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 5: is definitely the most interesting, just because it'd be interesting

736
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 5: to see what they look like. You know, somebody who

737
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 5: actually I think he raises their ceiling. I think he

738
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 5: raises their floor. I think he'd be a nice fit

739
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 5: alongside Devin Booker somebody else to make some plays there,

740
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 5: and you can make it happen pretty easily. So yeah,

741
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 5: give me Chris Paul to the Suns. I've never felt

742
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 5: better about the Suns. I'd never felt better about Chris Paul.

743
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 5: So put them together and let's see how it goes wrong.

744
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: All right, Lee, what do you got for this one?

745
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: What you got? Well?

746
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 6: I was gonna say that one as well, but I'll

747
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 6: move on. I'll make another one. And I want to

748
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 6: see Drew Holiday to the Celtics, but it would mean

749
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 6: he'd pretty much have to come off the bench, I think,

750
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 6: because you think of that backcourt with Kemba Walker, and.

751
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: Well, why couldn't it mean Kemba Walker's moving I doubt it.

752
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 6: I doubt I don't think they're going to move on

753
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 6: from Kember. But if they're going to trade three potential

754
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 6: first round picks basically to get a higher pick to

755
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 6: flip that to New Orleans, that to me says you

756
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 6: know that this they're going for win now and they

757
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 6: want some more experienced veterans on their roster. And I

758
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 6: think again, Drew is that veteran who's a very very

759
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 6: steady hand at the end of the game's good defender,

760
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 6: can shoot, can play off the ball, you know, and

761
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 6: if Kember is having a bad game, he can fill

762
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 6: in and take that that point guard position off him.

763
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 6: So I like it. But again, you're paying a guy

764
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 6: basically thirty million dollars then to come off the bench,

765
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 6: and that's something that Danny Ainge doesn't like to do.

766
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 6: But again, it's like all these other picks that we've got,

767
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 6: you know, they're sort of mid to late first round picks.

768
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 6: They're probably not going to impact the team as much

769
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 6: as someone like Drew could immediately next season and the

770
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 6: one after. So I would like to see him there.

771
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 6: I just think, again, they're a defensive minded team, and

772
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 6: Drew's a very good defensive player. He'd give them just

773
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 6: extra depth and a steady hand and I like it,

774
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 6: So I'd like to see that happen. It's just the Celtics.

775
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 6: Remember we're going to give up six first round picks

776
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 6: for Justice Winslow back in the day as well. That

777
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 6: was one of the that was one of the crazy rumors.

778
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 6: So they like to just package all these picks and say,

779
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 6: all right, we'll just give you a wall to you

780
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 6: just give us one guy in return, and will it happen?

781
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 6: But you know, I think he would be the sort

782
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 6: of guy again who would be happy to go there

783
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 6: and accept a lesser role because he's closer to a championship.

784
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 6: And Drew has spent a lot of his career not

785
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 6: really close to a championship. So he's kind of like,

786
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 6: I'm getting paid, I'm on a good team, and I'm competing,

787
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 6: and I'm still going to play big minutes. It's just

788
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 6: maybe not the same sort of big minutes that he's played,

789
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 6: you know, for the Pelicans and when he was in

790
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 6: the sixers there as well, So not as many shots,

791
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 6: but you exchange that when you've been I think a

792
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 6: lot of guys, you know, for if your career has

793
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 6: been not making the playoffs and just not really close,

794
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 6: you are prepared it later on to be like, you

795
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 6: know what, I'm happy to go here. He seems like

796
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 6: that type of guy anyway. Yeah, not like Westbrook where

797
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 6: he's like, no, I just want the triple doubles. So

798
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 6: that that's where I think drew it. So I think

799
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 6: that would be a decent fit.

800
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: I liked how you compare Danny Ainge his GM his moves,

801
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: like here's a bunch of my picks, Just give me

802
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: something better or a better player. That's how I used

803
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: to play fantasy basketball. You would just like pick up

804
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: like four guys waiver wire and then package them four

805
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: for one. Deal man, Come on, come on, give me

806
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnette, I just got I'm giving you four guys. Yeah,

807
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: you all up the waiver Wae Well.

808
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 6: He shoots a great percentage for those guys are always

809
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 6: annoying though, because you would like, well, I have to

810
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 6: like sacrifice three other guys just to make this.

811
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Trade work for you, So your team sucks, like that

812
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: guy's injured, that guy barely plays, you know, but we've.

813
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 6: All we've all done that though, where you got a

814
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 6: couple of hot guys off the waiver wire and instantly

815
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 6: try to trade.

816
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 1: The one hundred percent. That's what you do. That's that's

817
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: the beauty fantasy mess, all right. So you like the

818
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: Celtics one Trey obviously like in the Sun one with

819
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: Chris Paul task, do you have a different one, one

820
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: in the final two or something else that you like

821
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: more what you got?

822
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 4: Well, it sure seems like the Pelicans want to take

823
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: a step back and get younger, and so it feels like,

824
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 4: you know, whether it's the Celtics or the Hawks giving

825
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: them picks, I'm buying it. I'm buying that David Griffin

826
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 4: wants to put this thing in neutral and take a

827
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 4: step back from going the veteran route. And I would

828
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 4: love to see Drew Holliday as a as a Celtics starter.

829
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 4: I think he's going to start. I don't think he's

830
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: coming off the bench. I think they would have to

831
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: find another team to take on Kimba Walker really in that,

832
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: but it would be take so much pressure off Drew Holiday.

833
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 4: Now I think you know he has he's gotten the

834
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: pendulum to swing to swing. I should say, as we've said,

835
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: from underrated to now just a tad bit overrated here

836
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 4: because everybody loves them some Drew Holiday, but now you

837
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 4: know he's going into his thirties. I think it would

838
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: be a nice fit on the Celtics to be a

839
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 4: complimentary player. They've got so many talented guys there, it

840
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: would be really really nice. The Hawks thing is, it's

841
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 4: it's a puzzler to me. As Trey said, it's it's

842
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 4: almost like exactly what the Pelicans did. They went for it,

843
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 4: and now the Hawks. Some are criticizing them for going

844
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 4: too early or going for it too early if they

845
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: try and get Drew Holliday. But I say do it.

846
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: I say do it because they really really really believe

847
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: in their core. They really believe in Trey Young, they

848
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 4: believe Clint Capella is going to help out. And David

849
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 4: Griffin in New Orleans, he fleeced the Hawks a little

850
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 4: bit last year. The Hawks traded up for DeAndre Hunter

851
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 4: in the draft so the Peals could get Nikhil Alexander

852
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 4: Walker plus Jackson Hayes plus a couple second round picks.

853
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 4: Hasn't worked out too well for the Hawks quite yet,

854
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 4: but hey, go get fleeced again. Travis Flank, we believe

855
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 4: in Yeah, I think I think Drew Holiday, he's he's

856
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 4: just so solid to be beside Trey Young. And if

857
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 4: you really really believe in Trey Young, John Collins and

858
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 4: hopefully Hunter Reddish really evolves, just do it. Do it.

859
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: Be a good team for sure. All Right, we got

860
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: lots more still we got to here. But first let's

861
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: hear from our sponsors. I pissed off a lot of

862
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: the Star Wars geeks out there saying that the Mandalorian sucks.

863
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: It kind of does I kind of more like the Mandaborian.

864
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Yes, right, that's it.

865
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 7: But you know what, it is kind of cool to

866
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 7: see X wings and ships flying around. I mean that's you.

867
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, like, yeah, I get that. And someone said, like, well,

868
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: how much of a Star Wars fan are you? On

869
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: scale one to ten? I said four right away? Four? Okay,

870
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: Well I didn't know how to answer that, but yeah,

871
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: I know you're right. You're seeing all this other things.

872
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: It looks cool, that's the thing. It looks amazing the show,

873
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: but nothing happens in the show. It's like a weird

874
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: little side story happens that doesn't have any impact, Like,

875
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: why is the Mandalorian He's lost total focus of what

876
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: his goal is too? Why does he keep going on

877
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: these dumb little side things.

878
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 7: I don't know? Well, yeah, exactly, who knows. It's like

879
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 7: an episodic Western adventure. It's like watching Bonanza or something,

880
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 7: which I guess is fine, but come on, let's get

881
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 7: to it.

882
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to it exactly. And someone said, I

883
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: don't give a shit if this is a spoiler. We're

884
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: talking about baby Yoda, diabolical Baby Yoda, as Jason was

885
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: pointing out, eating this lady's frog frog lady's egg which

886
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: is crazy. He's gonna save her entire like what do

887
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: you call it? Species? Okay, because something's gonna happen to

888
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: the rest of her eggs, right, and this weird little

889
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: thing she's carrying around, something's gonna happen. Yeah, they're gone.

890
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: Don't worry. Baby Yoda swallowed one, you know, goes into

891
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: the bathroom, forces the backroom. He's gonna save them, for sure.

892
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 7: He's gonnat the eggs, and the dad's gonna.

893
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 4: Come on them.

894
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: Mandalailer alert. Check it out, all right, back to what

895
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: you got. According to the Indianapolis Star, three times Victor

896
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: Oladipo told opposing teams during games that he wanted to

897
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: join them, right in front of his Pacers teammates. Oh

898
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: my god. It happened apparently against the Raptors, the Heat

899
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: and the Knicks. His line or some variation of it was,

900
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: can I come play with y'all? All right, so Oladipo

901
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: asking other teams, can I come play with you all?

902
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: This was the report factor fiction, Lee, what you got?

903
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 6: It's fact. I'm going with fact on this one because

904
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 6: it sort of does prove what we've been talking about

905
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 6: a lot with Victor Oladipo on the Paces this season.

906
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 6: It's been a weird, weird season. He obviously missed the

907
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 6: start coming back from that injury, that that nasty injury

908
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 6: that he suffered last season, the torn quadruceps I believe

909
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 6: it was. And he started playing okay, but then the

910
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 6: season went into lockdown or the shutdown happened, and then

911
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 6: down in the bubble, we were heard that he was

912
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 6: going to the bubble and he was going to work

913
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 6: out with his team, but he wasn't going to play

914
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 6: and they were going to pay him anyway. And then

915
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 6: it was like, oh, well he's here and he's actually okay.

916
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 6: So he did start playing with his team, and then

917
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 6: they got swept in the first round by the Heat,

918
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 6: and so the whole sort of there was a lot

919
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 6: of rumor and speculation about whether or not Oladipa is

920
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 6: going to sign a long term deal with the Paces

921
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 6: because you know, it's like where they traded for him.

922
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 6: He's been an All Star since he's been there. He's

923
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 6: a good player, he's coming off a big injury. How

924
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 6: good is he? But then there was also a bit

925
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 6: of a feeling that maybe the team didn't want him

926
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 6: to go out there and play, and that sort of

927
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 6: frustrated him. Now, if you're saying he said to the

928
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 6: next hey, I want to play with you guys. And

929
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 6: this is obviously not during the lockout during the restart

930
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 6: down there in Orlando, because the Knicks weren't down there.

931
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 6: So this goes back to earlier in the season when

932
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 6: the Pacers played the next So I think there's a

933
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 6: lot of frustration from Oladipo for the injury and then

934
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 6: being on a team that's good but not great, and

935
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 6: he's like a star but not a superstar. And there's

936
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 6: just a little bit of maybe the team is hesitant

937
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 6: on signing him to a long term deal and he

938
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 6: wants that and he expects that, and so is he

939
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 6: going to get that from someone else? I'm not so sure.

940
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 6: So I think he's kind of, you know, making it

941
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 6: clear that he's not happy with his situation there in

942
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 6: Orlando and he wants out if they're not going to

943
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 6: pay him. And I think if you're the paces, you're like, well,

944
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 6: we're probably not going to pay him, so we will

945
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 6: try to trade him, and him sort of throwing a

946
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 6: bit of a tantrum there by saying that in front

947
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 6: of his team mate, you can understand why they feel

948
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 6: that's disrespectful to do that. If he was being serious,

949
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 6: if you're sort of joking around, okay, maybe maybe you

950
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 6: could get away with it, But doing it allegedly three

951
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 6: times to me is more likely he's saying I'm done

952
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 6: in Indiana, I won out, I want to play with

953
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 6: anybody else.

954
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: So only if you had only done it, if you'd

955
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: only said this when he was playing the next then

956
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: you're like, ah, that's a.

957
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 6: Good joke, exact joke exactly.

958
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Now, I say that with the heat and the Raftors.

959
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, hold on, hold on.

960
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 6: I keep saying this, two good teams that are contenders,

961
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 6: and he's like, I could see myself on that. He's

962
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 6: been rumored, of course, to the Heat that's out there,

963
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 6: the Raptors. I haven't really heard that, but the Knicks

964
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 6: is also a rumor. So I think it's just a

965
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 6: combination of frustration not playing all that much and then

966
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 6: you know, playing okay, down in the bubble he played,

967
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 6: he played some good games down there, but also the

968
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 6: paces time to move on. I think, so I buy it.

969
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 6: I'm buying that.

970
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: You're buying a fact task. What do you think what

971
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: you got with this one?

972
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 4: A man on the basketball floor is playing on it

973
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: against another team and says, I come play with y'all.

974
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 4: I I know it's paraphrasing, but I think, y'all, can

975
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 4: I come play with you guys? Can I come play

976
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 4: in your city of basketball operations? I think it's a

977
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 4: step too far. I think maybe he's talking to the

978
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 4: Heat or the Knicks and just talking to a guy

979
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 4: on the other team that he likes. He's talking to

980
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler and he's saying, you know what kind of

981
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 4: practice is you guys running, you guys keep it tight

982
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 4: over there. Man. I'd love to play in a situation

983
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: like that. And that's it. Like, I think maybe he's

984
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: looking at greener pastures. For sure. He doesn't seem like

985
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 4: he's super super duper happy, but I think he's just

986
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 4: trying to get a lay of the land, you know.

987
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: I was trying to feel out what the NBA is

988
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 4: all about.

989
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 5: Uh.

990
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 4: And he's out of Indiana. So basically the paraphrasing is right,

991
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: and it's a shorter, snappier headline, but it was I

992
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: think it's more of a conversation during a free throw,

993
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 4: like a full two free throws. He's chatting to somebody

994
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 4: on the other team about, you know, what it's like

995
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 4: in another city because he's, uh, yeah, for some reason,

996
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 4: he just doesn't love it in Indiana.

997
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is interesting, Trey. I feel like

998
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: Victor Oladipo is going down the path with Paul George,

999
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: uh in terms of like being really well liked I

1000
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: think by most fans and quickly having them sour on them,

1001
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: just maybe because they're thinking they're a little bit better

1002
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: than they are, or at least in terms of what

1003
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: they've accomplished so far, Like, oh, a depot is good,

1004
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: but he is sort of still riding the wave of

1005
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: like one good season, right and I know injuries of

1006
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: coming to play, but he is not a superstar. Seems

1007
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: to sort of certainly think he is.

1008
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, we all remember that twenty seventeen eighteen season when

1009
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 5: right after the Paul George trade, where Oladipo became an

1010
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 5: All NBA player and he took the Pacers to a

1011
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 5: Game seven against Lebron in the first round of the playoffs,

1012
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 5: and so we all think back to that. Obviously, he

1013
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 5: suffered an injury soon thereafter, but he wasn't even having

1014
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 5: a great season during eighteen nineteen. He was having an

1015
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 5: All Star season. But that's a little bit different than

1016
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 5: an All NBA season. And you would think that having

1017
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 5: suffered an injury similar to Paul George breaking his leg

1018
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 5: during a Team USA scrimmage, that you would want to

1019
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 5: stay with the franchise that kind of built you up.

1020
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 5: That seems to be a little bit on the upswing,

1021
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 5: which the Pacers certainly are. But for whatever reason, Indiana

1022
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 5: is not able to keep these stars that they have

1023
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 5: helped so much. You know, they I do think that

1024
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 5: they build their teams around their stars. I thought that

1025
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 5: the that the Pacers definitely tried to build around Paul George.

1026
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 5: I know, he didn't like it when they told him

1027
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 5: he was gonna eventually have to play four and he

1028
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 5: didn't want to be considered a big guy or whatever.

1029
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: And you know, it.

1030
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 5: Definitely feels like the Pacers are building around Ola Depot now,

1031
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 5: or at least that was the thought that they would

1032
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 5: be able to put some you know, some supporting pieces

1033
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 5: around him and maybe be a bit of an ensemble

1034
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 5: with him as the head of the cast. But it

1035
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 5: just hasn't worked out, and it definitely just feels like

1036
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 5: Ola Depot is going to be squandering all of that,

1037
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 5: all those happy feelings we have for him after being

1038
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 5: a surprise player during the twenty seventeen eighteen season. It

1039
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 5: feels exactly like Paul Georgian. You know, that's got to

1040
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 5: be a little bit troubling for the Pacers because it

1041
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 5: feels like they're able to consistently make good teams and

1042
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 5: build up players and find all stars where you wouldn't

1043
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 5: necessarily expect him, but then they're not able to necessarily

1044
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 5: go into hyper drive or I guess in Indianapolis, overdrive,

1045
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 5: raise those RPMs and get into the upper stratus of

1046
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 5: the Eastern Conference. But this isful stuff from it, Victor Oladipo.

1047
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 5: If it's true, I mean, even if it's a short conversation,

1048
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 5: obviously somebody heard it and was very excited to tell

1049
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 5: about it.

1050
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, have you been to Indianapolis? Trey, like, oh yeah,

1051
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: does it suck? Like maybe just guys just don't want

1052
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: to live there.

1053
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think that New York is probably

1054
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 5: more alluring than Indianapolis.

1055
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: Is same with Toronto.

1056
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: Uh, but you know, for me, it's a place where

1057
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 5: you go for a big event or where you're passing through.

1058
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 5: I don't know if I would be playing seventy to

1059
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 5: eighty two games there.

1060
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 4: Great for the Final four, right.

1061
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: Sure, exactly? Yeah, maybe a super Bowl. Yeah, you got

1062
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: a lot of big events coming through there. But maybe

1063
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: now he sees like the calendars like, oh man, we're

1064
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: not going to any of these big events, so give

1065
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: me the whole out of here, miss Hamilton. Yeah, this

1066
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: is this is a rough look. And you know, I know,

1067
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: I think Pacers fans, I don't know how they feel

1068
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: about the people I'm sure some love them. I'm sure

1069
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: some have maybe soured on him because I do I wonder,

1070
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: like after these come back from injury, Like where does

1071
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: even rank right now? He as as on the piecers

1072
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: like best players list, Like he's not one. I don't think,

1073
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm you starting to make cases that he's not

1074
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: even number two where he is right now coming back?

1075
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I would say Sabonis is their best

1076
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 6: player and then it's down to you know, Miles Turner

1077
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 6: and Oladipot for that other spot. But TJ. Warren also

1078
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 6: really cashed in down in the bubble there, so.

1079
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: He's possibly their third or fourth best player, and that's

1080
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: not I mean, I know he's been better and has

1081
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: had a higher ceiling, but right now, yeah, I think

1082
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: that's where I would have him too.

1083
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1084
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 6: And that's again when he when he when he's a

1085
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 6: free agent, how much do you want to invest in

1086
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 6: for how long in Oladipot? And I think that's the

1087
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 6: real question that the injury is one concern and just

1088
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 6: how good he is is the other concern. I mean,

1089
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 6: is he worth? Is he worth you know, five years

1090
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 6: and one hundred and twenty five million, like like I

1091
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 6: don't think so, but that's probably where you know, that's

1092
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 6: probably what he's thinking he's going to get, and I

1093
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 6: don't think I don't think a lot of teams would

1094
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 6: want to pay him that much. So, you know, I mean,

1095
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 6: he's going to get twenty million year, I would think

1096
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 6: just because he's got some potentially he's pretty good. But

1097
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 6: how good? How good? That's the question? And two we

1098
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 6: see him come back and play a full season to

1099
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 6: get better, an idea of just how well he's recovered

1100
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 6: from that injury and just whether or not he can

1101
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 6: return to that All Star All NBA level because he

1102
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 6: was good for that season. But was that the anomaly

1103
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 6: that season or was that more likely what you can

1104
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 6: expect from him. I think it's probably the first one

1105
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 6: from what we've seen so far.

1106
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going here. As the twenty twenty NBA

1107
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: Draft approaches, there are still very little consensus on who

1108
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: the top picks are going to be. How it's all

1109
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: going to unfold again. I was joking about it off

1110
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: the top, and we were talking with Hollander. It feels

1111
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: like no one even wants these guys. No one even

1112
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: wants the draft picks. So tasks draft pick more likely

1113
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: to be traded next week, the Wolve's number one pick

1114
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: or the warriors number two pick.

1115
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 4: What you got, I think it is the Wolves at

1116
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 4: the number one pick, because although, yeah, the feeling on

1117
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 4: these guys isn't super hot right now, somebody will definitely

1118
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 4: want the number one pick at some point. I don't

1119
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 4: even know if the Wolves trade it before they make

1120
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 4: their pick, but as Hollinger told us, because it's sort

1121
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 4: of been a shortened season here before the draft, things

1122
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 4: could happen a little bit after the draft. So I

1123
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 4: think that's more likely to happen than the Warriors because

1124
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how well LaMelo Ball fits with D'Angelo

1125
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 4: Russell there, and if they want to have, you know,

1126
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 4: a couple years of trying to make that work, I

1127
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 4: don't think they have that kind of time to appease

1128
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 4: everybody there. And then even you know, does Wiseman fit there?

1129
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: I don't think. So there's a lot of question marks.

1130
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 4: So I think that pick eventually gets traded, whether it's

1131
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 4: on drafted or after that. And with the Warriors, I

1132
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 4: don't think they do it just because they've got a

1133
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 4: top four now that gets paid a lot of money,

1134
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: and yes, I'm throwing in Andrew Wiggins in with Draymond Green,

1135
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 4: Steph Curry and Klay Thompson, not for his play but

1136
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 4: for his dollar dollars. So I think they kind of

1137
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 4: like the certainty of a number two pick what he's

1138
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 4: going to cost, that he is a good player and

1139
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 4: will be there to at least link the present to

1140
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: the future a little bit. Obviously, not all of these

1141
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 4: guys are going to be franchise guys, but they're going

1142
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 4: to try and put him in a situation in an

1143
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 4: organization that has created incredible players, and Steph and Clay

1144
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 4: and Draymond, they've made those guys great players. So I

1145
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 4: think they've got some faith in themselves, whether it's this

1146
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 4: year or next year, to have a guy who really

1147
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: really contributes at a cost certain value, because what are

1148
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 4: they going to get for that number two pick? Are

1149
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 4: they going to get a I guess you would think,

1150
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 4: you know, somebody to take Kevon Looney spot at the

1151
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: center spot, because Loony is always hurt to try and

1152
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 4: help them win a championship. That's possible, But I think

1153
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: they believe in their core and they'd like to have

1154
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 4: somebody to give them a great player in the future.

1155
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: What do you got Trey, which why are likely to

1156
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,479
Speaker 1: get moved on the flip side of his task.

1157
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 5: I think that the Warriors would be more likely to

1158
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 5: trade their pick just because I agree the idea of

1159
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 5: drafting a Wiseman and having him as the kind of

1160
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 5: bridge between your your dynasty era and whatever the next

1161
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 5: phase of the Warriors is going to be. It's not

1162
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 5: dissimilar to when the Spurs had Kawhi Leonard and it

1163
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 5: looked like he was going to be taking the reins

1164
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 5: from Tim Duncan. I can understand that, and I can

1165
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 5: also understand the value in you're gonna be a good

1166
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 5: team next year. We all know that you might as

1167
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 5: well take a shot at having somebody who becomes a

1168
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 5: superstar in the future. But I also think it's hard

1169
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 5: for an NBA team with title aspirations to be relying

1170
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 5: on a rookie as your big guy. And I think

1171
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 5: it's gonna be tough to say, Hey, James Wiseman, you've

1172
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 5: been at this massive recruit for two straight years. We've

1173
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 5: been talking about this draft forever. Now we want you

1174
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 5: to watch Javeail McGee tape so you can learn how

1175
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 5: to run up and down the court and dunk. I

1176
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 5: just don't think that that's a something that really happens

1177
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 5: with a nineteen twenty year old guys. So I can

1178
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 5: see them this pick maybe along with Wiggins. There's been

1179
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 5: talk of perhaps the Pelicans, You're able to get something

1180
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 5: like JJ Reddick or Derek Favor, something along those lines.

1181
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 5: Maybe two players who help in the future in the playoffs,

1182
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 5: who are a little bit more reliable than the young guy.

1183
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 5: So I just think it would be the Warriors because

1184
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 5: there's this huge, this huge movement of doing all you

1185
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 5: can to give Steph Clay and Draymond another chance it

1186
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 5: winning a title.

1187
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: Sure, where do you fall leave?

1188
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm the same there. I think the Warriors there

1189
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 6: in win now mode, and a young guy, you know,

1190
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 6: he might take a few years just to get to

1191
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 6: the level they need him at. So if there's a

1192
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 6: veteran out there that can give them something a little

1193
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 6: bit more that's ready now, I think they'll do that.

1194
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 6: I think that's part of the reason why they originally

1195
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 6: signed D'Angelo Russell and then of course traded him for

1196
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 6: Andrew Wiggins, was to have that asset ready in case

1197
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 6: they need to flip it to somebody and now package

1198
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 6: with the number two pick. You know they've got something

1199
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 6: out there. It's just whether or not, you know, anyone

1200
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 6: there's much interest in Andrew Wiggins, which you know, it's

1201
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 6: hard to I really know if any teams want to

1202
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 6: take a flyer on him. But again, if you're going

1203
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 6: to get that second pick as well, then you're like, Okay,

1204
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 6: that's the price we have to pay that you have

1205
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 6: to take that weekends contract as well. So that's where

1206
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 6: I think the Warriors are. They're like, we can get

1207
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 6: a good player at number two if no one wants

1208
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 6: to take us on a trade there. But ultimately, I

1209
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 6: think they are looking to get a veteran who's going

1210
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 6: to serve their purposes a lot more better now than

1211
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 6: getting a younger guy who's going to be a few

1212
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 6: years before you can they can really rely him as well.

1213
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,479
Speaker 6: And you know, again the Warriors that Steph basically missed

1214
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 6: last season. I know he played a handful of the game. Obviously,

1215
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 6: Draymond played a handful of games, but he was kind

1216
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 6: of he was kind of floating through those games. And

1217
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 6: Clay's been he hasn't played since June last year. So

1218
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 6: you know, they want to go back and they want

1219
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 6: to be competing straight away. They don't want to take

1220
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 6: a year or two to get back to that level.

1221
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 6: They're ready to compete for more championships.

1222
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: It's funny, though, both of these teams actually want to

1223
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: win now. The Warriors want to win totals now because

1224
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: there are guys, But the Wolves want to win now

1225
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 1: because while they're the Wolves and they never win, that'd

1226
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: be nice, especially to the message to towns, like hey,

1227
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: we got something going here. But also, they don't have

1228
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: their pick in twenty twenty one. It's going to the Warriors.

1229
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: I think it's top three protected, so they'd have to

1230
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: be really really bad get some luck. Obviously in the

1231
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: draft lottery. They're gonna not want to give that up,

1232
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: so they have incentive to be at least a solid team.

1233
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know whether that means yeah, drafting with

1234
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: the number one pick and bringing in a ball or

1235
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: an Edwards or something like that, or does it mean

1236
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: flipping it for maybe someone that can help you immediately.

1237
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: Not that those guys couldn't too. I mean not many

1238
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: people are high on them, but you never know, You

1239
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: never know, all right, Next one here. We got more

1240
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: jerseys to talk about. Now, look, before we show you

1241
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: the ones, I just want to say the Valley Boys,

1242
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: the Suns, that one is official. I know there's been

1243
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: great photos going around Kelly Ubray Junior, who might be

1244
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: moved with a horse and a Ferrari, And you're seeing

1245
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: the jerseys. They look pretty good in IRL. I gotta

1246
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: say they look better than the you know, the leak

1247
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: that we saw, and that always is the case usually,

1248
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: but the Forum gonna throw at you guys that are official, official,

1249
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: Now we got show them here for the YouTubers, the

1250
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: Orlando Magic, they got an orange vibe with the pin stripes.

1251
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: There's the Magic, the Sixers. This one's very interesting. Some

1252
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: boathouses on this black jersey. We'll get into that. Sacramento Kings.

1253
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: This one was a leak too that I think I

1254
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: forgot about maybe last time we were talking about these.

1255
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: But you got some checkered on the side there. They're

1256
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: very black at the blue. And then the final one,

1257
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: the Hornet's going with this minty fresh buzz city. Look. So,

1258
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: of these four Magic, Sixers, Kings or Hornets, what's your favorite.

1259
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: What's the best of the bunch. What you got Trey.

1260
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a blowout Skeetze.

1261
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 5: Obviously, the Hornets have the best of these new batch

1262
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 5: of leaks that we're seeing. And like you're saying, is

1263
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 5: this mint is the teal a little bit different? It

1264
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 5: feels a little bit different than the teal that we

1265
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 5: see on the normal Hornets uniforms. But I think it

1266
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 5: looks incredible. I love how they're mixing it with the

1267
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 5: gold kind of playing on the New Orleans Hornets look

1268
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 5: from a few years back. But this is a banger.

1269
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 5: This one is incredible. I don't necessarily love buzz City

1270
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 5: as their nickname here, but you know, similar to how

1271
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 5: the Suns decided to put the Valley on their jerseys,

1272
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 5: and we're like, the Valley it Maine something to the

1273
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 5: people there. So if buzz City means something to the

1274
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 5: people of Charlotte, that's fine. Because the jerseys, as Lee

1275
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 5: Ellis would say, off faya.

1276
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: They look with these look, these look awesome. Just the

1277
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: color palette, it just works. Even the little logo there.

1278
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean you can sort of see it in this

1279
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: photo on the shorts. Yeah, that could say Hornets on

1280
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: the chest. I think the jersey would still be absolutely incredible.

1281
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: I also could see Westbrook in those. I think it

1282
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: would look so fricking coos. Yeah, can anyone make a

1283
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: case for another one of these? Tass you got something

1284
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: on the well.

1285
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 4: Those buzz City jerseys are the best Charlotte jersey since

1286
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 4: this thing since remember back in the Bobcats days. I

1287
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 4: can fit a few bodies in here.

1288
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1289
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, We're doing a live show in twenty eleven in Chicago. Actually,

1290
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 4: and I had been talking about a Mecca Oca for

1291
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 4: so much. I can just flip this jersey right to

1292
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 4: show you the Yoka for in the back. Yeah, because

1293
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 4: it's so huge. A fan of ours, Kevin Rris, said, listen,

1294
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 4: I've got this Charlotte Bobcats jersey. They're bad. I don't

1295
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 4: want this jersey anymore. You can have it, And so

1296
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 4: he handed it to me at our live show. So

1297
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 4: I'm happy to to have a new jersey. I just

1298
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 4: like wearing this. I go swimming. It's a blanket. I

1299
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 4: like a beautiful That buzz City is God, it's gorgeous

1300
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 4: and they haven't had a nice jersey since I can't

1301
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 4: remember how long. I love the fact that they kind

1302
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 4: of buy into the teal and the blue, and and

1303
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 4: I didn't wear the jersey that they sent to us

1304
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 4: back in twenty fourteen. I remember Lee wearing it. There's

1305
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: a photo of Lee wearing it. They wore us the

1306
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 4: hornet they sent us those, the Teal hornets. Yeah, but this, Yeah,

1307
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 4: it's not teal, it's not aqua. What is it? It

1308
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 4: is mint? Yeah, it's beautiful, that's all I know.

1309
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: Cask looks like he's wearing a John Elway jersey. See

1310
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: the Charlotte Bobcats part. Yeah it's amazing. Yeah all right,

1311
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: so yeah, for the listeners, Task is wearing a gigantic

1312
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: sized a Mecca Charlotte Bobcat.

1313
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 5: I can't believe it's been I guess nine years that

1314
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 5: you've had that jersey.

1315
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: And I also can't believe that.

1316
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 5: There was really an era where the NBA ran out

1317
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,479
Speaker 5: with wide sleeved jerseys. Remember that, Like the only ones

1318
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 5: that look cool at all were Alan Iverson wearing them.

1319
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 5: But with Task, you're right, it looks almost like a

1320
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 5: football journey because.

1321
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 3: Five x maybe, oh.

1322
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: Maybe we were joking recently, tasked that prior to our

1323
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: video days, people thought you were like five hundred pounds.

1324
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that listener was like this. Maybe it was

1325
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: a nice for tasks. You showed up and saw you

1326
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: was like, what your voice doesn't match you? You are okay?

1327
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: So you are like you're like in the bus city

1328
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: as well? Yeah, Lee, is it bus city? Is it

1329
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: those minty fresh green ones?

1330
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 6: Let's go to Philadelphia. Let's have a look at the

1331
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 6: six is one, because I think this is the one

1332
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 6: that's cools the most.

1333
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: Backlash.

1334
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 6: Yes, I think so, because it's a little bit weird,

1335
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 6: isn't it. Like Ye, So it's the what the Philly

1336
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 6: suburbs there is?

1337
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 4: That?

1338
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: Is that?

1339
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 6: The housing? I mean, what is it?

1340
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: What is it? It's like the boat Rows houses. Yeah,

1341
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

1342
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Philadelphia have had some incredible uniforms in the

1343
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 6: last few years, so this is a step backwards. But

1344
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 6: maybe they were just due to have a bit of

1345
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 6: a stinker there. They've got the bell there just above

1346
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 6: the you know, above the the dong. Yeah, above the dong.

1347
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 6: They got the dong on the dong, which, you know,

1348
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 6: I like that. I like the Liberty bell there, but yeah,

1349
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 6: placement probably wasn't the best. But I do you like.

1350
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 5: The ttp that is right over the ad in Philadelphia?

1351
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 3: Trust to trusting the process A right, Yeah.

1352
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 6: I didn't notice that.

1353
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: So did Ben Simmons design these two? I know Zachlo

1354
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: had a massive article on these, which I unfortunately didn't read.

1355
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's.

1356
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: What happened, right.

1357
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 6: He had some say involved there with the design process

1358
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 6: because it was mostly something to do with the Essendon

1359
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 6: Football Club, which is your team. Of course.

1360
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: See the Bomber Slayer.

1361
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 6: Now JD has a phone of you, then that's the

1362
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 6: that's just the traditional Issenon jersey identical. Yeah, so yeah

1363
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 6: a little bit.

1364
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 5: It's got that oak of four Bobcats sleeves on it,

1365
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 5: wight up top.

1366
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1367
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 5: Apparently Ben Simmons his main inputs on these were we

1368
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 5: gotta have a black jersey, fair enough, everybody wanted to

1369
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 5: go back to the iverson black jersey's very cool. And

1370
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 5: then they did like a blue version, a black with

1371
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 5: mostly blue trim, and he said, no, no, no, no, no,

1372
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 5: I love the Bombers. Put some red on there. Okay,

1373
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 5: now they have black, blue and red, which is it's

1374
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 5: a no for me.

1375
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: The only thing these Sixers jerseys are missing are a

1376
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: big ad that say Amart furniture. Well that was on

1377
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: the Bombers Show, The Bombers.

1378
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 3: Juice running back.

1379
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 6: Oh wow, I.

1380
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: Don't know how you guys missed it. It's like right

1381
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: there across the sash. What can I get there besides

1382
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: furniture the girls?

1383
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 6: Uh well, I've never heard of I'm furniture before. I've

1384
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 6: heard of came out of course. Yeah, but yeah. The

1385
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 6: jersey sponsors usually change around very, very frequently.

1386
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 4: So are you guys liking the King's jerseys?

1387
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 3: I do like them.

1388
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: They feel like, well, they actually feel like Charlotte's. Was

1389
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: it Charlotte that had the you know, the race stripe

1390
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: or what do you call, I don't know, the checkerboard

1391
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: or whatever on the side there? What was that back

1392
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: in the day? Charlotte had one of those crazy they

1393
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: did at some point.

1394
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can pull a NASCAR so maybe they.

1395
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it was. That's what it was. I

1396
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: guess I don't. I just don't have much of an

1397
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: opinion about them. I'm just like, all right, they're not

1398
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: the worst of the bunch we've seen. They're definitely not

1399
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: the best.

1400
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 4: I like them.

1401
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: You like them? Yeah, you like them.

1402
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 7: It's got a you know, it's chess, right, Kings the

1403
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 7: chess board checker.

1404
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm an idiot. I do you even know

1405
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: like of that?

1406
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 7: I'm all about the Queen's gambit these days, so uh,

1407
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 7: shout out to the kings.

1408
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 4: Okayam, but did you finish the Queen's Game?

1409
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 7: I have not, so don't give me any sailors.

1410
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 3: It took us two nights. Thrilling stuff.

1411
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to see Sacktown play cream City though, right,

1412
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: I'll be really nice. And hey, I thought you might

1413
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: go with the Magic Tray. You're a big orange guy,

1414
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: so I wanted to get your opinion on these, like

1415
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: not enough orange? Like these these aren't upgrade over the

1416
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: dark gray ones they had with the orange, I think certainly.

1417
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 5: Uh, And I do like that people kind of discovered

1418
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 5: that if you flip the Magic's normal jerseys.

1419
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 3: They're black and blue.

1420
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 5: It almost inverts perfectly, hearkening back to the days of hey,

1421
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 5: what color is this dress? But as we see with

1422
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 5: Tass in his legendary and Mecha Oka for jersey, orange

1423
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 5: jerseys are tough. I love orange jerseys, but it feels

1424
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 5: like we're still waiting for a classic NBA orange.

1425
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 4: Fair and they're and they're claiming that it's a bit

1426
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 4: of a throwback to the mid nineties era and their

1427
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 4: pin stripes, but you gotta keep the same color palette.

1428
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 4: I think the orange is too far. This is the

1429
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 4: second year now they've gone to the orange. I just

1430
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 4: can't get Evan Fournier Magic Guard out of my head

1431
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 4: when he said what are we playing for the Suns now?

1432
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 4: When he was commenting about their first orange jersey. It's

1433
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 4: just it's too orange. It is really distinct, right, It's

1434
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 4: like the Sons are the only team I think that

1435
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,919
Speaker 4: has it as part of their uniform predominantly orange, other

1436
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 4: than the old Bobcats.

1437
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: I guess maybe maybe the.

1438
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 3: Knicks have ran out some more. He's the Thunder as well,

1439
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 3: And exactly. They're not memorable, No, they're not.

1440
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: I like these magic jerseys better than the ones they

1441
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: were throwing at us last year that just said our

1442
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: l and they were gray and had a little orange,

1443
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: and I didn't like them. This is nicer. Yeah, yeah,

1444
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't like a star too. Let's hear it for

1445
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 1: you guys at holler at us on Twitter. At least

1446
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: at no dunkstick with all these jerseys. You gotta take

1447
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: one more break here. But we do have a few

1448
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: more questions. All right, we're ending with some really silly

1449
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: ones here, as we usually do on no dunks. This one,

1450
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: there's no preamble, just got some photos JD. Would you rather, guys,

1451
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: wear a shirt of yourself like Tyler Hero did there, yes,

1452
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: with the snarl as he's going through some shooting drills.

1453
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: Or would you rather wear Nike bread shoes? Okay, a

1454
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: shirt of yourself like Tyler Hero did, or these Nike

1455
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: bread shoes. I can't wait to see where Lee ranks

1456
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: this type of bread on his favorite breads. But Tray,

1457
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: you answer first, what would you rather wear?

1458
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 5: At first, I thought this was a pretty tough question.

1459
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 5: You know, on one hand, you're wearing a shirt of yourself.

1460
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 3: It's a tough move. It's certainly a tough move.

1461
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 5: On the other hand, you've got a pair of shoes

1462
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 5: that are made out of bread, which will fall apart,

1463
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 5: but you can catch some good fish on little bread balls. Ultimately, though,

1464
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 5: I'm going with a shirt of myself, okay, because it's

1465
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,959
Speaker 5: almost an honor amongst my group of friends back home.

1466
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 5: You guys have heard me bring up my buddy Murph.

1467
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 5: We always would torment him at homecoming. One year, we

1468
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 5: printed up thousands of pictures of him during his Dragonball

1469
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 5: murfh Era is what we called it. We put him

1470
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 5: all around campus.

1471
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: He hated it.

1472
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 5: The next year we printed off a whole bunch more

1473
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 5: pictures that said welcome to the bro Show.

1474
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 3: He hated it. Oh, the guy was furious.

1475
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 5: So the very next year, my buddy Bryce made us

1476
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 5: all shirts that said let's get mer ridiculous, along with

1477
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 5: the picture of Murph's face.

1478
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 3: And then wore those to homecoming.

1479
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 5: Murph hated it, but he loved it because when you're

1480
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 5: wearing a shirt with your face on it and everybody

1481
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 5: else you know was wearing a shirt with your face

1482
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 5: on it, you're the star, right then. So Tyler Hero,

1483
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 5: he was the star of that game when he snarled.

1484
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 5: We're gonna remember that snarl for a long time. So

1485
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,959
Speaker 5: I feel like he's got to pay some tribute, even

1486
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 5: if it's to himself.

1487
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,919
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're fine with the shirt of yourself. Let's

1488
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: got a tacit guy who's got another wardrobe change. Yeah,

1489
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: task explain to the listener what you got on here?

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01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 4: Well, what's weird about wearing yourself on a shirt. I'm

1491
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 4: wearing a shirt with my face drawn on it by

1492
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 4: a fan from a long time ago, with the label

1493
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 4: pun guns and two fingers up like I'm I'm firing

1494
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 4: off some puns. There's smoke rising from each of my

1495
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 4: two fingers. Just fired a couple quick puns. I have

1496
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 4: no idea what their shirt came from. I've been doing,

1497
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 4: like a lot of people during the pandemic, a lot

1498
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 4: of cleaning around my house. So I found this old

1499
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 4: Charlotte podcast Jersey, and I found this thing so cool.

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01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 4: I'm putting it on. It's a perfect fit. What's what's

1501
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 4: weird about that?

1502
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 5: This?

1503
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 4: Actually, this question reminded me of when we did a

1504
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 4: shoot with Big Baby Davis. And he's got himself on

1505
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 4: that shirt. That's that's that's him, Larry Is. Look at

1506
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 4: the glow up on JD.

1507
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 1: First, let's talk about this photo.

1508
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 4: And there's Big Baby with your heart out.

1509
01:08:58,640 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 7: I really missed that hat.

1510
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: Oh wow, what happened to it?

1511
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 4: Yea?

1512
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 7: I sat on it?

1513
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh what a look? Wow?

1514
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 4: That is what year was that? Twenty eleven, twenty twelve?

1515
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: It looks like nineteen eighty eight or something like that.

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01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 4: It was just baggy clothes. There's banking clothes.

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01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so yeah, I gotta say, though, task back

1518
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: to him if we can drop that.

1519
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 4: I don't.

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01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you said you just found it. I

1521
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: don't ever remember you just wearing this shirt.

1522
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 4: It's the first time I've ever worn it.

1523
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: But honestly, it's pretty good drawing, pretty good. It does

1524
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: look like you. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty pretty solid.

1525
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 4: I have no idea where it came from.

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01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: But okay, and Lee, let's go to you here. Okay,

1527
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: what do you got leave for this? I think I

1528
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: know your answer, but a way.

1529
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just wearing a hat with my own logo

1530
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 6: on top right now, and I wear this around from

1531
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 6: time to time. It's a very comfortable hat nurse. So

1532
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 6: you know, I'd have no problems wearing my own T shirt.

1533
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 6: I mean, we have the very solid play T shirt.

1534
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 6: It's not my face though, it's more just the diagram

1535
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 6: of a play So yeah, but I've worn this on

1536
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 6: the beach in Mexico a few times, and you know,

1537
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 6: just let people know, Yeah, that's me.

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01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 5: In case you're wondering, do people know it's you when

1539
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 5: they see the hat?

1540
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 6: No, but they sort of go I don't know what

1541
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 6: that is.

1542
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 1: That's kind of weird.

1543
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 6: And then yeah, you know, if I had to tell people,

1544
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 6: because I told a guy once down there in Mexico,

1545
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 6: I said, yeah, that's me on the hat, and he

1546
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 6: was kind of like, why you're wearing a hat of yourself?

1547
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 6: But you know, I told her about the show and everything,

1548
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 6: so we got there in the end, but it was

1549
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 6: still a bit weird. But yeah, very comfortable hat. I

1550
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 6: have to say, all right, I'm.

1551
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: Going to agree with you guys. I'm gonna go with

1552
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: a shirt of yourself. Just because you can't wear these

1553
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: naked bread shoes. You can't wear them too like like

1554
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: a square where there's pigeons or stuff like that, you're

1555
01:10:55,080 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: absolutely screwed. So I mean they look coffee, they're almost

1556
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: look toasted a little bit too.

1557
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 4: Me too.

1558
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: I love toasts. Put some jam on those. But yeah,

1559
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: I'll go with the shirt. JD gun answer for this one?

1560
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: Which one?

1561
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I'm going shirt, although I mean I

1562
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 7: do have a shirt with all of our faces on

1563
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 7: it and I'm right in the center and I'm way

1564
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 7: too self conscious to wear it.

1565
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well there you go. So yeah, but you

1566
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: weren't self conscious not to wear a fedora.

1567
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 7: Hey man, I'm a hat guy.

1568
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 3: I like hats.

1569
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: You do love hats.

1570
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 4: That's funny. I was cleaning out all my stuff and

1571
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 4: I realized I got some hats. I'm gonna wear hats again,

1572
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 4: I said to Danielle. Yes, yair. She goes, okay, all right,

1573
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 4: let's let's see you do it.

1574
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: You're a wild man. Yeah, slowed downright, final one. I

1575
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: don't know about you guys, but my social feed social

1576
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: media feeds are like being flooded with people opening their

1577
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: shiny new xboxes and PlayStation consoles. So Christmas is right

1578
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: around the corner. I want you to treat yourself here.

1579
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: Xbox Series X or PS five JD.

1580
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 7: What you got PS five? Hook me up, people, I

1581
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 7: need one. It's got to be under that tree Christmas morning.

1582
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm in big trouble. So you didn't buy one?

1583
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, I check every day. It's sold out everywhere. I

1584
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 7: don't know, it's very hard to find. Yeah, I don't

1585
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 7: know why I became a PS PlayStation person. I think

1586
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 7: it's because of there was one game that was only

1587
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 7: available on the PS four or PS three, and then

1588
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 7: I just never looked back.

1589
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: So right right, so you will be going you'd want PlayStation.

1590
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, the kids are. The kids are very much

1591
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 7: PlayStation guys.

1592
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you got, Leley. I'm fascinated to hear

1593
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: your answer for this.

1594
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1595
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 6: I mean I have retired officially from playing video games,

1596
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 6: but I used to be a PlayStation guy, so I

1597
01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 6: guess I would go the PS five.

1598
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: I got to see it right now. The look you

1599
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: got going, it looks like you got you on twitch

1600
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: trail alone. Yeah.

1601
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 6: It's funny though, Jada, you talk about it for Christmas

1602
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 6: because you know, I have an eight year old and

1603
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 6: a four year old, and and I am sort of like,

1604
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 6: because we got a Natari twenty six hundred for Christmas

1605
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 6: when we were like, you know, the mid eighties, and

1606
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 6: that was like the one the one joy stick with

1607
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 6: one button and you can play a million games. It

1608
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 6: was incredible, And I'm like, maybe it's time, Maybe it's

1609
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 6: time to get the boys there and see just how

1610
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 6: crazy and irate they can get at each other and

1611
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 6: throw things around the house when things don't go their way.

1612
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 6: But I know you can get a lot more games

1613
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 6: these days where there's some physical play involved, isn't there?

1614
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 6: I think that that is that the place.

1615
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 7: No, that's the Nintendo and they're moving away from that

1616
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 7: kind of thing, although there are virtual reality if you

1617
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 7: want your stuff stuff broken in your house, definitely at that.

1618
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I know that it does does bring

1619
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 6: out the worst behavior in kids. So you know, maybe

1620
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 6: it's time.

1621
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: Oh I love the idea of Christmas morning a couple

1622
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: presence under the LS family tree, kids opening up. Wow,

1623
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 1: PlayStation five. Oh my god, this is acredbled. Daddy're the best?

1624
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: What games do we got? Least? Somehow us found the

1625
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: one bar three game. Let's get yeah, next level vegetable medicine.

1626
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: All right, so task, what are you? What do you want?

1627
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: Xbox with PlayStation It's on me. I'm buying.

1628
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 4: I'm going five or I'm I. I was a Nintendo

1629
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 4: person of Nintendo Superintendo N sixty four and then I

1630
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 4: got a PS three purchase for me as a gift.

1631
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 4: It was a great gift when I broke my leg

1632
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 4: way back in the day because I was sitting at home.

1633
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 4: So I got a PS three purchase for me. I

1634
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 4: don't play it though, and I never upgraded to the

1635
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 4: PS four. Well maybe I can get wrapped in around

1636
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 4: the PS five. I don't know. I don't know, maybe maybe.

1637
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: Which which one of the are like catching on fire

1638
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 1: like they look like they're vaping tray. Have you seen

1639
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: these videos going? I think it might be the Xbox one,

1640
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: but I'm not one hundred percent sure.

1641
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,560
Speaker 5: I didn't know that the Xboxes were vaping, But it

1642
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 5: seems like the perfect time does switch right now because

1643
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 5: a PlayStation like JD Sam impossible to get. And then

1644
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 5: you have seen, I'm sure, on Twitter so many of

1645
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 5: these messages that say, hey, your PlayStation five is coming

1646
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 5: in PlayStation five packaging. It's gonna be stolen, so you

1647
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 5: gotta be out there waiting, like leave for his pot

1648
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 5: for his passport. What's harder to get a PlayStation five

1649
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 5: or your passport in the mail?

1650
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 3: What you got?

1651
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 6: Round two of the Possiports Saga Oh.

1652
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: Boy podcast. It sounds like a great PlayStation game. The passport.

1653
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: It's somewhere.

1654
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 6: It's somewhere in New York right now, it's back in

1655
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 6: New York. It's somewhere. It's either yeah, it's at the

1656
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 6: Canadian embassy. I believe that I have to pay an

1657
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 6: extra twenty dollars escalation fee for something.

1658
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: To make a video game out of the Yeah, that's

1659
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: called what happened to the Nintendo Switch?

1660
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 4: JD. You're a switchman. I almost made the move.

1661
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 7: It's just full enough. I have to wrestle my wife Rachel.

1662
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 7: She plays Tetris on it NonStop, so you know, it's

1663
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:24,799
Speaker 7: become the Tetris machine.

1664
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: That's all right. Yeah, that's great.

1665
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 4: That's a great game.

1666
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hear from you guys. Xbox PS five, which

1667
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: one should we all get? You know? The correct answer

1668
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: here is just everybody, all five of us got to

1669
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: get an NBA GM arcade. We all got to hook

1670
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: that up, get it on Wi Fi. We got to

1671
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: play each other.

1672
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 4: Be great.

1673
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: Let's call it there. This is a super long one,

1674
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: a lot of fun topics, though. Comment on Twitter at

1675
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,960
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1676
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,600
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1677
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear earlier. Westbrook trades, your Drew Holiday trades,

1678
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1679
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: dunks at the Athletic dot com, or again, you can

1680
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: tweet them in at No Dunk Sink. We'll call it there.

1681
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: No shows this weekend, we'll be back next week. It's

1682
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a probably a busy week in the NBA

1683
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: and we might have some emergency shows. So make sure

1684
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: you subscribe to us on YouTube if you're a part

1685
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 1: of the stream team, or you like watching the show,

1686
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: or wherever you download and listen to the No Dunks podcast,

1687
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: just make sure you subscribe. Very very important. All right,

1688
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: Clipper bros.

1689
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time turn up.

1690
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome.

1691
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember, got to get a

1692
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 4: couple of comments in here from the team stream. We

1693
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 4: don't want to denigrate the Xbox because apparently Skeets wasn't vaping.

1694
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 4: According to Chris Lanzel, the Xbox video was debunked. Oh

1695
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 4: it wasn't real apparently, but Ragon Brownie here says in

1696
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,759
Speaker 4: the comments the Xbox has a weird kind of ventilation system.

1697
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 4: So I don't know, is rage and right or is

1698
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 4: Chris Lanz al right? Oh man, we'll never know.

1699
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: We'll find out next week on No Ducks.

1700
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:05,879
Speaker 7: Every day and that you happy every minute.

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01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 4: It's been so long that you're the one I've wait for.

1702
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 4: It's happened already. It's gonna be grippy,