WEBVTT - TOM's Talks | SJU Head Coach Billy Lange

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast is part of the seventy Sixers podcast network

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<v Speaker 1>Search seventy Sixers podcast Wherever you get your pots, Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Tom McGinnis. Over the course of twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>years of calling seventy Sixers games on the radio here

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia, I met hundreds of people. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite things about the job. Seventy Sixers head coach

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Brown has helped to develop not only dozens of

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<v Speaker 1>players in his tenure in Philadelphia, but several assistant coaches

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<v Speaker 1>as well. One who's moved on to be a college

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<v Speaker 1>head coach is South Jersey native Billy lang. Lang has

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<v Speaker 1>just completed his first season as the head coach of

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Joseph's University. In my third installment of Tom's Talks,

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<v Speaker 1>I visit with Billy lang Well, coach, Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for doing this. You're my third guest, but fret

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<v Speaker 1>Nott Jordan was the third pick, so you're still in

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<v Speaker 1>good company. And as I said to my other guests,

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<v Speaker 1>Todd McCulloch and George Lynch, you too are one of

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<v Speaker 1>my all time faves. We know you've moved on to

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Joseph's University. We're going to talk about that, but first,

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<v Speaker 1>how is your family, your immediate family, your parents, and

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<v Speaker 1>how are you guys doing in this time of quarantine

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, Yeah, thank you, Tom. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as I knew I was going to get

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<v Speaker 1>on with you, I made sure I was representing the

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<v Speaker 1>logo of my favorite NBA team of all time. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. This is an honor to be here

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<v Speaker 1>with you family as well. We've got four boys, all

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<v Speaker 1>at different stages of puberty and teenage years, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying not to cannibalize each other during this time right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're healthy, which is the ultimate blessing to have,

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<v Speaker 1>and so are my parents and my ninety six year

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<v Speaker 1>old grandmother who is doing well quarantine Din, everybody's good

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<v Speaker 1>right now. We'll keep it going that way. That's great. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as a college basketball coach at Saint Joseph's, the season

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<v Speaker 1>was just about to end when everything got shut down,

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<v Speaker 1>I can only imagine what it was like to touch

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<v Speaker 1>base with your players, make sure they were okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>then sent the template for this time. That is really unprecedented,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly for you in a period after your first year.

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<v Speaker 1>So we lost our last game of the season, which

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<v Speaker 1>was the first round of the Atlantic ten Tournament in

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<v Speaker 1>a real nail biter against George Mason at the Barclay Center.

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<v Speaker 1>We were in New York, ironically, and then got on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus and came home. I had dinner with my

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<v Speaker 1>staff that night, and just as we were eating, the

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<v Speaker 1>announcement came out about the Rudy Gobert and the cancelation

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. So we had already kind of set

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<v Speaker 1>our goodbyes and we were on spring break, so the

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<v Speaker 1>guys were already home. Little did we know they were

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<v Speaker 1>not going to come back, and that has since changed everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But everyone's going through this, so I there's very little

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<v Speaker 1>stress level amongst us as coaches. We missed being with

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<v Speaker 1>our guys. It was an abrupt end of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously we were all looking forward to work attitude

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<v Speaker 1>that we were going to be able to restore here

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<v Speaker 1>in the spring, particularly coming off the season we had.

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<v Speaker 1>But we had energy and we were ready for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's different and we just have to adjust

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<v Speaker 1>to the difference. How did you feel this season went.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we followed it. Obviously, Ryan Dailey had a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous year, But I always described your first season as

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<v Speaker 1>coach at Saint Jo. You know, it's it's funny because

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<v Speaker 1>in many ways the record obviously is disappointing for players, coaches, fans, constituents,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole bit. You know, when we lost Taylor Funk

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<v Speaker 1>seven games into the year, we already were a group.

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<v Speaker 1>It had a very small margin for any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>error that was on kind of like our pre mortem list,

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<v Speaker 1>like we can't lose one of these guys, and we

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<v Speaker 1>lost him, so that that hurt. But I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>of all the years off coach as a head coach

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<v Speaker 1>or an assistant, this was one of the most rewarding

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<v Speaker 1>in this facet. This was one of the most competive, competitive,

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<v Speaker 1>spirit filled, engaged groups I've ever been around, from day

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<v Speaker 1>one till the end. I mean, there was never a

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<v Speaker 1>sign of disengagement. The reason of some of the games

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<v Speaker 1>might have seemed that way time, but it wasn't. These

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<v Speaker 1>guys came to work. We might have had two bad

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<v Speaker 1>practices all year. So my experience with Brett in the

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<v Speaker 1>first few years with the seventy sixers gave me a

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<v Speaker 1>different lens on that type of process than I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have had if I didn't have that experience with

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<v Speaker 1>the seventy sixers, and we were able to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the game rather than the gap. And over

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<v Speaker 1>the last three weeks of the Atlantic ten regular season,

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<v Speaker 1>outside of maybe three or four teams in our league,

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<v Speaker 1>we were playing as well as anyone. We just weren't winning,

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<v Speaker 1>which that is the result we all want. But we

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<v Speaker 1>were able to step back and see where the trajectory

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<v Speaker 1>of the group in the program were going, and we

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<v Speaker 1>felt excited about it. So disappointed in the record, but

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<v Speaker 1>not disappointed at all in the process and the games

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<v Speaker 1>we made them very encouraged. Speaking of the program and

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<v Speaker 1>when you speak the recruits and certainly going forward, when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about the rich history of Saint Joseph's basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>McKinney line them O'Brien or undefeated, Phil Martelli, Mike Phantom.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's an incredible program. I must be the

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<v Speaker 1>great selling point of tradition of Hawkhill. It's easy for me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, growing up in South Jersey and really growing

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<v Speaker 1>up on Philadelphia basketball from high school through college and

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA, Like this is what you follow, right, This

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<v Speaker 1>is a passion. This is just part of growing up

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<v Speaker 1>in this in this Delaware valley area. It's easy for me,

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<v Speaker 1>It truly is. And with each passing day, I'm learning

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<v Speaker 1>more and more about the tradition. Like you just brought

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<v Speaker 1>up a couple of names that wouldn't roll off the

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<v Speaker 1>tongue necessarily if I know, I mean nah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's everything, and so um, you know, talking

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<v Speaker 1>about guys like Brian Work, you know, and like these

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<v Speaker 1>type of players have created such an incredible legacy in

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<v Speaker 1>history here. It truly is across the country of all

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<v Speaker 1>college basketball, one of the best stories. So we just

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<v Speaker 1>have to continue to tell it, and we have to

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<v Speaker 1>modernize it in a way that is kind of really

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<v Speaker 1>able to today's youth, which that's what we need because

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<v Speaker 1>we're recruiting. When I go back to my first year

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA nineteen ninety five, we actually practiced at

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Joe's and the Sixes. Of course, the practiced there

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<v Speaker 1>for many years before, and where I went to high

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<v Speaker 1>school and where I went to college and played basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>That setting was exactly like that. And so for me

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<v Speaker 1>to be back on campus, I used to go to

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<v Speaker 1>mass at the Chapel at noon. At the time, it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Green gym and the the Red gym and arena

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<v Speaker 1>and played picked up there. I mean it was a

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<v Speaker 1>great atmosphere, and that too, I would think as a

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<v Speaker 1>selling point as a great university. It is, and basketball

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<v Speaker 1>matters a great deal. You know, all the sports at

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Joe's have great tradition and they all matter. But

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<v Speaker 1>one of the pillars that this school is built on

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<v Speaker 1>as the tradition in the history of Saint Joel's basketball

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<v Speaker 1>on Hall Hill, from great coaches, the great players, to

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<v Speaker 1>great memories, to great competitions in the Big Five and

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<v Speaker 1>in the Atlantic Ten. And there are so many students

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<v Speaker 1>that I had met over the course of my one

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<v Speaker 1>year here and I would say, like, how did you

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<v Speaker 1>get interested in Saint Joe's And most times it relates

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<v Speaker 1>back to a brother or a sister, or a mother

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<v Speaker 1>or a father or or an uncle who a grandparent

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<v Speaker 1>who introduced them to the idea of the university through

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of basketball related vertical. Right, So it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal. It's just part of the blood of

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Joe's. And then part of that if the outreach

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<v Speaker 1>is the Big Five, the City Six, the rival Rays,

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<v Speaker 1>the games at the Palestra, the battles with the Villanova

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<v Speaker 1>that's another slice of what you I would think would

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<v Speaker 1>bring to young people that want you want to play

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<v Speaker 1>basketball for you, I mean, I hope so, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I see it. You know, we play in a

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<v Speaker 1>really good league in the Atlantic Ten. But outside of that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, think about the things you get to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of. You get to be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Five, which is incredible, right, And you get

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of a five, part of a

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<v Speaker 1>competition that actually has a name to it in the

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<v Speaker 1>Holy War, Right, So you know that's cool. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and Villanova has been such an elite level program for

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<v Speaker 1>the last decade that a chance to actually have that

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<v Speaker 1>type of built in competition year after year is truly

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity for us to continue to grow our own tradition.

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<v Speaker 1>my conversation with Billy Lang. So you spent two stints

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<v Speaker 1>coaching at Villanova with coach write your coach and Navy

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<v Speaker 1>Academy and other jobs in terms of assistant coach on

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<v Speaker 1>that collegiate level. What's it like to be in a

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<v Speaker 1>program now and all of those all the things you've

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<v Speaker 1>learned and now putting them in place and beginning to

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<v Speaker 1>put them in place as you go forward. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean outside of my own Let me back up. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've had great mentors first, you know, from Speedy Morris

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<v Speaker 1>at LaSalle to her McGee at what is now Jefferson University,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was there when it was Philadelphia Textile, to

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Wright, to Brett Brown, to my father who I

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<v Speaker 1>played for and grew up on their obviously going those games.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, I take a little bit of everything that

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned from them, and then I've had my own

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<v Speaker 1>tenure as head coaches, once in Division three and once

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<v Speaker 1>at the Naval Academy, which you alluded to where I

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<v Speaker 1>can harken back on successes and failures, you know, areas

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<v Speaker 1>where I feel like, hey, I was pretty good good

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<v Speaker 1>and areas where I need to be aware that I

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<v Speaker 1>was weak. And then put all that together, and now

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<v Speaker 1>it culminates in an opportunity to be a head coach

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<v Speaker 1>in the Big Five at Saint Joe's. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>probably about as ready as I would have been for

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<v Speaker 1>a position like this, and yet I still have so

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<v Speaker 1>much more to grow, So I'm excited for that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So you speak of your heritage and your pedigree, and

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<v Speaker 1>your father was a coach at Eustace and you played

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<v Speaker 1>at Rowan, but it all goes back to Saint Rose

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<v Speaker 1>and Hadden Heights and you have a special group there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you lost one of your friends, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was I would think a basketball clearly

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<v Speaker 1>you were successful, but built the foundation of how enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 1>And again you were a basketball family with your dad

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<v Speaker 1>being a coach, But that must have been really special

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<v Speaker 1>and something that you really treasure. My South Jersey heritage

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<v Speaker 1>is you know my father, you know doctor John g

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<v Speaker 1>and any who. Many people like I didn't work for

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<v Speaker 1>him at LaSalle, but I played under him at Rowan

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<v Speaker 1>University at Glass pro State is when I started. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a huge influence. I learned a lot about the

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<v Speaker 1>mental part of the game from him. But my grade

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<v Speaker 1>school days back to Saint Rose, which not many people

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<v Speaker 1>could even mention Tom, but you're on it under a

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<v Speaker 1>guy by the name of Timmy Lenahan. And of all

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<v Speaker 1>the names that I just mentioned to you, from Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer and her McGee to NBA head coach and

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<v Speaker 1>a successful head coach, and Brett Brown J Right's got

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<v Speaker 1>two national championships, you know, Timmy Lenahan, who was my

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<v Speaker 1>grade school coach, is on par with them in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the influence that he had on me, particularly from

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<v Speaker 1>a player development standpoint and an inspirational standpoint. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>so much, you know, and as an influential person when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in grades fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I carried that relationship on to my twenties. He was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first calls that came in when I

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<v Speaker 1>got the Naval Academy job. Wow, so blessed, and the

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<v Speaker 1>South Jersey part of me will never leave. It's who

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<v Speaker 1>I am, but not only am I from there. The

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<v Speaker 1>significance of those mentors that I had. Those opportunities I

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<v Speaker 1>had playing for those coaches were a huge part in

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<v Speaker 1>my ascension as a head coach, and then the professional team,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the Sixers. You I know how long you've been

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<v Speaker 1>married only based on you took your wife on a

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<v Speaker 1>date to the two thousand and one NBA Finals, So

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<v Speaker 1>you've been a lifelong Sixers fan. And then six years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose you, seven years ago you get a job

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<v Speaker 1>to coach pro basketball players and bring your development skills

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<v Speaker 1>to professional players. What was that experience like? Oh, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Tom, I will say this, I could have

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<v Speaker 1>stayed with the seventy six Ers for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>my life. I loved being a part of that organization

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<v Speaker 1>and I loved being in the NBA. I could have

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<v Speaker 1>stayed in the NBA for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just truly an opportunity that I had to be

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<v Speaker 1>at a place that I hold in high regard. Was

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason that I was pulled from there. This

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<v Speaker 1>just was an epic for me. For me, being at

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Joe's is a dream. The opportunity I had to

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<v Speaker 1>be with the seventy Sixers was a dream too, and

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<v Speaker 1>in many ways. It was perfect for the type of

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<v Speaker 1>person that I am. I actually enjoyed the process part

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<v Speaker 1>of it, you know, the it was painful to win

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<v Speaker 1>ten games, particularly when you're playing eighty two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But the enjoyment of watching guys like Robert Covington and

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Grant and then drawing and learning from guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Brett and Lloyd Pearce and Mike D'Antoni, you know, chatiskey.

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<v Speaker 1>These were memories, true memories. And to think I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>looking at that logo over your shoulder right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>to think that I actually had an opportunity to coach

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<v Speaker 1>this team when I stood in line to get a

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<v Speaker 1>poster signed by Doctor J after they won the eighty

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<v Speaker 1>three championship. To just be some small part of the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the Philadelphia seventy six is a is a blessing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned the eighty two games schedule and being

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<v Speaker 1>a basketball guy like yourself to be part of that

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<v Speaker 1>grind in terms of just how the games keep coming,

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<v Speaker 1>the preparation and as a head college coach, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a myriad. You have ten or twelve things you have

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<v Speaker 1>to really be good at, and a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>are off the basketball court, but to be have all basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>to manage the relationships and work with guys and work

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<v Speaker 1>with the coaches, develop game plans, everything that goes into it.

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<v Speaker 1>As Coach Brown says, it's like drip drip that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop in a way, as you guys say, in a

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<v Speaker 1>perverse way, you probably like that. Yeah, I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm very regimented to begin with and very disciplined.

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<v Speaker 1>I love routine, so is NonStop. People think you get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of downtime, but you don't. Like you're on it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know there's a game that's just right behind you,

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<v Speaker 1>right after you close the other one out, and you

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<v Speaker 1>learn how to not waste time and to cut to

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<v Speaker 1>what's most important, as we learned under Coach Brown, and

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<v Speaker 1>to try to help your guys the best way you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that now. Where it's helped me actually in

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<v Speaker 1>college more so than when I was in college before,

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<v Speaker 1>is the discipline of like getting things done in a

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<v Speaker 1>efficient manner and cutting fat out helps me in all

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<v Speaker 1>those other myriads of ways that you have already mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's recruiting or fundraising or staff development. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>understanding how to build a schedule for the day. The

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<v Speaker 1>NBA has helped me tremendously. The discipline and diligence it

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<v Speaker 1>takes to sustain a level of energy throughout a season

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<v Speaker 1>has paid huge dividends for me as I entered back

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<v Speaker 1>into the college space. And we'll enter back into your

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<v Speaker 1>personal life. As you mentioned with your boys. Certainly, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're social distancing, but I imagine there's some

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<v Speaker 1>backyard and there's some basketball going on. As a father,

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<v Speaker 1>and each one of your boys probably has a different personality,

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<v Speaker 1>what's it like helping to guide them and not being

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<v Speaker 1>overly pushy? Like, what's it like that balance? And also

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<v Speaker 1>getting in the gym and watching your kids play must

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<v Speaker 1>be I mean, I know it's a great yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I had so many conversations about our children

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<v Speaker 1>and watching them grow and develop, and sports just offers

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<v Speaker 1>so much for their overall holistic development, not just the basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in this time of the pandemic, when we're

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<v Speaker 1>all socially distanced and squeezed in on our quarantines, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine what it would have been like ten to

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years ago. At least now they've got technology to

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<v Speaker 1>go distract them for a little bit. But what I've

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed with this, you know, my kids have grown up

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<v Speaker 1>with incredible resources when it comes to basketball, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>being able to get in a cool gym or have

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<v Speaker 1>an NBA player development coach show them something, or guys

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<v Speaker 1>have going over guys that Joe's. But what they miss

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<v Speaker 1>out on is something You've alluded to earlier, is just

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<v Speaker 1>like getting to the playground at Saint Rose and playing.

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<v Speaker 1>So a few of my favorite memories have been our

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<v Speaker 1>wicked juno games at the kitchen table after dinner, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of cheating going on there, some just organic conversations

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<v Speaker 1>that happen, being able to see the way they exist,

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<v Speaker 1>watching my wife and just growing like an incredible affection

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<v Speaker 1>for what she has to do on a day to

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<v Speaker 1>day basis when I'm out about doing what I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to do. But what I've really enjoyed is like going

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<v Speaker 1>to my window and watching my boys set up chairs

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<v Speaker 1>on the driveway and pouring their own passion into their

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<v Speaker 1>own pouring their own work into their own passion is

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<v Speaker 1>what I should say. Where As a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>for kids these days are organized, but now they're being

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<v Speaker 1>forced to figure out how much do they really love

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<v Speaker 1>something because it's been taken away, and that's been pretty

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<v Speaker 1>neat to see because it's really not like that that

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<v Speaker 1>much right now. For American youth in sports, everything is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty structured and organized, so to see them going creating

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<v Speaker 1>their own structure has been pretty well. Coach, I totally

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy catching up with you. We wish you the best

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<v Speaker 1>to you and your family and your program. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you you down the road. Thanks so much, coaching Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>I miss you. I miss our conversation, so thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. I look forward to the NBA getting

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<v Speaker 1>back and the Sixers making a great run in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you, Billy, Thanks for listening to Tom's

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<v Speaker 1>talks with me Tom McGinnis on the seventy six Ers

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<v Speaker 1>podcast network. Check for new episodes every weekend.