WEBVTT - BREAKING: Actress Hayden Panettiere, Dead at 36 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, the folks, it is Monday, August seventeenth. Shocking news

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<v Speaker 1>this morning that actress Hayden Panetier has died at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of thirty six, and with that, welcome to this

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Amy and TJ Rogues. Thirty six. A young life,

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<v Speaker 1>a troubled life, but also a life that, for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, has been lived in the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes she you know, first of all, just what a shocking,

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly sad story to wake up to, especially for so

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<v Speaker 2>many people who knew her and loved her and believed

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<v Speaker 2>most of her struggles and all the pain that she

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<v Speaker 2>has been so public about were behind her. She had

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<v Speaker 2>just released a memoir and it seemed by most people's

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<v Speaker 2>accounts that she was on the right path. She finally

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<v Speaker 2>found her way after multiple stints and rehab and dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with loss and dealing with a really painful custody situation.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed like she was building her life back together.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, she became an actress so to speak, at

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<v Speaker 2>eight months old. That's hard to imagine. She had been

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<v Speaker 2>in dozens of commercials by the time she was five.

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<v Speaker 2>She lived her life in the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 3>And we don't know as of this recording what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>No cause of death was released, but we did get

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<v Speaker 1>official word from her dad that she had passed away. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a young lady. You just mentioned the memoir

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<v Speaker 1>that just came out in May. I do believe, but

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<v Speaker 1>she's so young, and really I guess the past, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess most people what would be the thing robes

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<v Speaker 1>we would point to first that people know her from, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what would it be? Because the screen movies were pretty recent.

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<v Speaker 2>Nashville was a pretty big hit. That was a huge

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<v Speaker 2>hit for ABC, but people remember people talk about her

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<v Speaker 2>breakout role being Heroes, where she was that cheerleader on NBC.

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<v Speaker 2>People started to get to really know her and know

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<v Speaker 2>her by her name write at about sixteen, but she

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<v Speaker 2>had been in I mean, going through her IMBD. It's

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<v Speaker 2>too much to even put all in one episode. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just how much this young lady had been working since

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<v Speaker 2>she I mean, she doesn't remember a time in her

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<v Speaker 2>life where she wasn't working. And part of that pressure

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<v Speaker 2>and part of that scrutiny of being a child actor

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<v Speaker 2>many people will be examining as playing a role into

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<v Speaker 2>many of her struggles that may have ultimately led to

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<v Speaker 2>her untimely death.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that are going to be pointing to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably already saw it this morning as well. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was a variety that had the headline Hollywood failed

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<v Speaker 1>Hayden Benetier correct, and it went through all. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she's detailed these before, but the story after store of

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<v Speaker 1>how she was exploited, how she was you could even

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<v Speaker 1>argue sexually abused in Hollywood, and just kept going. It

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of an accepted thing. She details all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuffes and a lot of it led to all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of troubles that she had with addiction, with alcoholism and

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<v Speaker 1>in relationship problem all she's doing all of this in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the world en robes at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for roles in Hollywood. I mean that's stressful enough.

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<v Speaker 1>So this and I saw the age, I said, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>because she's still she always has the little cheerleader look

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<v Speaker 1>to her. She looks the way she looked in Heroes

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<v Speaker 1>still kind of I couldn't believe.

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<v Speaker 3>She was just thirty six.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to believe. I mean, yes, she's been in

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<v Speaker 2>our lives. We've known of Hayden Penetier since as long

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<v Speaker 2>as I can remember. And I didn't realize how young

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<v Speaker 2>she still was. That was actually one of the more

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<v Speaker 2>shocking things to me to see that she was only

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six. Because we've known her for the past twenty years,

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<v Speaker 2>I expected her to be much older. Granted she looks

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<v Speaker 2>like she's still a teenager for sure, but to know

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<v Speaker 2>that her birthday, her thirty seventh birthday, would have been

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<v Speaker 2>this Friday, August twenty first, What a damn shame like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never met her, I've never come across her, but

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<v Speaker 2>we all felt like we knew her, and we all

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<v Speaker 2>are mourning this shocking loss of her, because, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>we were kind of along for the ride. She brought

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<v Speaker 2>us along with her, whether she wanted to or not.

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<v Speaker 2>We were watching, We were witnessing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>To a degree. I'm trying to think of other examples

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Some Britney Spears comes to mind. Yes, But

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<v Speaker 1>there are some people who begin as child actors. We are,

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, when they become adults a little more

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<v Speaker 1>protective of them. We still see them in some way

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<v Speaker 1>as folks who always, even as they get older and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe make some mistakes and have troubles, we're willing to.

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<v Speaker 1>We almost want to put our arms around them. They

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<v Speaker 1>were kids and.

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<v Speaker 3>They grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like we raised them to some degree. And

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<v Speaker 1>she just feels that way. She was troubled and to

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<v Speaker 1>see another and I say Britney spears and that she

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<v Speaker 1>was a young she was a child. Yes, she had

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<v Speaker 1>made hits, but to some degree still to watch her,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel some sense of that with some of these

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<v Speaker 1>folks who came up in an industry that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at those young ages, they were exploited, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>Used and exposed to things that no kids should be.

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<v Speaker 2>And she has been and had been very passionate about

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<v Speaker 2>protecting child actors because she knew all too well the

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<v Speaker 2>dangers of being in the spotlight like that. And if

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<v Speaker 2>there aren't people who are constantly protecting these young actors,

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately there is a lot of heartache that can follow them.

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<v Speaker 2>And look to hear her and to see her write

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<v Speaker 2>about all of these struggles, I think we remember them

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<v Speaker 2>as they came up. She was very open about her

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<v Speaker 2>postpartum struggle. She was very open about her alcohol and

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<v Speaker 2>her subscription or prescription pill addiction. She was very open

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<v Speaker 2>about domestic violence that she suffered from a boyfriend that

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<v Speaker 2>followed the relationship we had with her ex fiance, which

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<v Speaker 2>produced her young daughter. She lived apart from her daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Her daughter, her eleven year old daughter lives in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>The pain of that she lost her brother unexpectedly three

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<v Speaker 2>years ago at the age of twenty eight. He had

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<v Speaker 2>an enlarged heart. I mean, you just start to see

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<v Speaker 2>trauma after trauma after trauma that this young woman has

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<v Speaker 2>faced in the spotlight and ropes.

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<v Speaker 1>So many of those things you mentioned happened very recently

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<v Speaker 1>in her life, and a cluster of time where, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know the screen movies came out that's in recent years.

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<v Speaker 2>Was twenty twenty three, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>She was in four and six? Yes, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was to have right, you do? So, yeah, maybe she's

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<v Speaker 1>going through Hollywood is hard. Forget the personal stuff for

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<v Speaker 1>a second, competing for roles, even getting the role, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the reviews come and then all that stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>difficult enough. She was managing and maintaining that while dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with addiction in and out of rehab, custody, disputes, breakups

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<v Speaker 1>and all these things. It seems like too much, quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>but all those things you mentioned robes the X but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize the domestic violence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he went to jail for herm he did so, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that should be point. It wasn't her just saying

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<v Speaker 2>he was abusive to her. No, his name was Brian Hickerson.

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<v Speaker 2>She dated him right when her marriage ended and her

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<v Speaker 2>daughter was She allowed her daughter she did feel like

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<v Speaker 2>in her ex fiance and they seem to have a

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<v Speaker 2>really good relationship, but he was just like, my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>is not our daughter is not safe in your presence.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think she came to realize, even though she

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<v Speaker 2>denied it, she realized she had a problem, and so

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<v Speaker 2>she allowed him to take her and move to Ukraine

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<v Speaker 2>with her. And in that same year she started dating

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<v Speaker 2>this guy. I think he's a fellow actor. Don't know

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<v Speaker 2>him from his work, Brian Hickerson. But he ended up

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<v Speaker 2>pleading no contest to two fell counts of domestic violence

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<v Speaker 2>and spent I think forty five years in forty five

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<v Speaker 2>years forty five days behind bars for that. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it was documented and she suffered emotional and physical abuse

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<v Speaker 2>from him, and she describes it in her memoir.

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<v Speaker 1>The Girls, When the girl went through hell, And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what anybody is supposed to do from a

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<v Speaker 1>public standpoint, from a fan standpoint, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>Robes?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just supposed to be Really the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are around her that should have protected her better. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not to blame anybody for her death. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, but she describes a life of hell.

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<v Speaker 3>Robes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're celebrating, we're smiling, and she's a great actress,

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<v Speaker 1>all these and she was living it through some hell

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<v Speaker 1>that she describes.

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<v Speaker 3>Robes.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything you throw in there, addiction, abuse, relationship breakdowns, assaults,

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<v Speaker 1>postpartum depression, throw it all, I mean ROMs.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, we've been talking a lot about postpartum depression, psychosis,

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<v Speaker 2>and this Lindsay Clancy murder trial that we've been talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>This woman in Massachusetts who killed her three children, strangled them.

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<v Speaker 2>She says she's not criminally responsible because of postpartum psychosis.

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<v Speaker 2>But to hear I think I can never say her

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<v Speaker 2>last name. This is awful for me. Pennatier, Hayden Pennatier

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<v Speaker 2>was very outspoken. She is one of the first women

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, or I recall, famous woman, a huge Hollywood star,

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<v Speaker 2>actually describing what that process was like and what it

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<v Speaker 2>was like to be that depressed on the set of Nashville.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually remember had to write into her character's part

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<v Speaker 2>about being pregnant because she was so visibly pregnant. But

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<v Speaker 2>she said the whole time she was on the set

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<v Speaker 2>she was starting to feel the effects of just depression

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<v Speaker 2>and that just reared its ugly head right after her

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<v Speaker 2>daughter was born in twenty fourteen, and then to lose

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<v Speaker 2>custody of her when she was just three years old,

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<v Speaker 2>be in a different country than your child as a

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<v Speaker 2>mother is incredibly painful.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure what I can only imagine what

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<v Speaker 1>the public reaction was at the time. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>hear a mother either losing or giving up custody of

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<v Speaker 1>her child to a father, it immediately You talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this very much recently. It brings judgment from other women.

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<v Speaker 2>But I actually think how brave and courageous of her

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, knowing that she was battling something that

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<v Speaker 2>would negatively impact her daughter and was willing to sacrifice that.

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<v Speaker 2>It can make me cry. She was willing to sacrifice

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<v Speaker 2>being with her daughter because she knew her daughter was

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<v Speaker 2>safer and better off with her father. That takes an

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<v Speaker 2>unbelievable act of courage and selflessness I believe to abdicate

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<v Speaker 2>that role in a physical presence. I mean, she talked

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<v Speaker 2>about literally trying to help raise her via FaceTime and

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<v Speaker 2>how no mother should have to do that. That is

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<v Speaker 2>where she was at this point, she I mean, just

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<v Speaker 2>listening to her own words. We don't know why, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how officially she died, but we do have

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<v Speaker 2>her words that she just recently gave us in this memoir,

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<v Speaker 2>again released in May, but she said not being under

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<v Speaker 2>the same roof with her every day has been the

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<v Speaker 2>most gut wrenching experience of my life, she says. I

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<v Speaker 2>grieve that I'm not the mother I thought i'd be,

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<v Speaker 2>and definitely not the mother I want to be. Trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>no one should ever raise a child on FaceTime. That

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<v Speaker 2>obviously had to weigh heavily on her.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who knows, I mean, and who knows how

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<v Speaker 1>much more we'll find out. It's just to see one

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<v Speaker 1>of these We saw what very recently we've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Jason R. Day professor and just people getting pushed

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<v Speaker 1>I guess robes by what by pressure by these She

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<v Speaker 1>clearly had some real problems that she documented throughout, and

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<v Speaker 1>we just talk about addiction and what robes This stuff

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<v Speaker 1>messes with your brain chemistry.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're wired in such a way robes that you have

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't it gets to a point you can't cope.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're seeing that and we know this, And how

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<v Speaker 1>do you help these folks? How do you identify it?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you intervene? What are you supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. She had months, several months long stays

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<v Speaker 2>in different rehab facilities, some for addictions, some for postpartum depression.

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<v Speaker 2>She was seeking help. She was trying to get help,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I wonder, like this, really it's jarring

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<v Speaker 2>to know that she wrote this memoir and she talked.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she went on a big campaign. She gave speeches,

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<v Speaker 2>she went on podcasts. Obviously, this is what you do

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<v Speaker 2>when you promote your New York Times bestselling book. But

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<v Speaker 2>her whole point was to help other people, to show

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<v Speaker 2>other people that there was a way out, that there

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<v Speaker 2>was a light at the end of the tunnel, and

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<v Speaker 2>to hear like I just she was just on Jay

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<v Speaker 2>Shetty's podcast. This is one of her last public interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is so chilling. Now, this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>her final statements, she said, I finally feel like I've

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<v Speaker 2>shaken off all of this darkness and this negativity, and

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<v Speaker 2>that means I've closed one door and another is open.

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<v Speaker 2>She said she could feel the exciting possibilities. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I have a lot more life to live. I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if by writing this book and talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>there's hope and how she'd overcome, if maybe somehow a

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<v Speaker 2>setback was just too much. At that point, she'd already

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<v Speaker 2>publicly said I've gotten through the tough times. I've made

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<v Speaker 2>it past this darkness. I'm now in the light, and

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe just putting that out there publicly and then

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<v Speaker 2>having some sort of setback just was too much to face,

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<v Speaker 2>too much to bear.

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<v Speaker 3>We have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>We just have no idea what was going on in

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<v Speaker 1>her life at this particular moment that led to this,

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<v Speaker 1>And we do not have a cause of death.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, folks will right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just this is a tragedy the extent to

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<v Speaker 1>which we don't quite know. We don't we know what

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<v Speaker 1>her life was was. I don't know what her life

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<v Speaker 1>is because by all accounts, it where it should have

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<v Speaker 1>been is a place that didn't result in this. So

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<v Speaker 1>what was there an event that triggered it? What happened?

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<v Speaker 1>We just don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And to your point, when we come back, we will

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<v Speaker 2>talk about all the stars, all the people who worked

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<v Speaker 2>with her, who loved her, who have reacted online, and

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<v Speaker 2>most of them have reacted with absolute shock. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>everyone to Amy and TJ. We mentioned that her father,

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<v Speaker 2>Hayden Panetier's father is the one who announced her death,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think maybe we should read his statement just

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<v Speaker 2>so you can hear. And the family did ask for privacy,

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<v Speaker 2>as you might imagine, but he wrote, it is with

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<v Speaker 2>profound sadness that we share the tragic passing of our

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<v Speaker 2>beloved Hayden. She was an incredible light and a force

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<v Speaker 2>of names who brought immeasurable love and joy to all

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<v Speaker 2>who knew her and the millions who watched her on screen.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you've read or seen any

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<v Speaker 2>of the comments. Just as people are waking up or

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<v Speaker 2>just finding out about her death, but literally everyone is saying,

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<v Speaker 2>this can't be real. I love you, don't be gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Please say this isn't true. I mean, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Selma Blair. David Arquette Biola Davis, Kelly Osborne. It just

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<v Speaker 2>everyone who worked with her, loved her, knew her. They're

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<v Speaker 2>all saying, wait, how is this possible. I just spoke

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<v Speaker 2>with you, things were going well, I mean, and someone

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<v Speaker 2>even saying I should have known, I didn't. I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>sorry for every moment I didn't reach out or I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't check in. And this is what often happens with

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<v Speaker 2>these types of situations. People always wonder what they could

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<v Speaker 2>have done differently.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's your answer. Don't ever hesitate when somebody's on

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<v Speaker 1>your mind to reach out. I learned to live by

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<v Speaker 1>that in the past several years. But under if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>crosses your mind, send a note. If they don't write back,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter that you shouldn't need it. I just know

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<v Speaker 1>how it feels on the other end to be in

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<v Speaker 1>a desperate situation and that phone buzzes and to see

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<v Speaker 1>somebody just gives a damn to reach out to say hi.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes a difference. So I'll keep preaching that robes

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<v Speaker 1>don't ever hesitate. There's some people listening now, friends of ours,

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<v Speaker 1>who are laughing because they've gotten that message. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>at some point in the past five years, didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to think cross my mind, and didn't want to pass

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<v Speaker 1>up an opportunity to say hello, hope you're good.

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<v Speaker 3>Send that message all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how you have no regrets, because yes, people

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<v Speaker 2>do need to know that people care. And it did

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<v Speaker 2>appear that so many people loved her. I do look back, though,

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<v Speaker 2>you start to look at her resume, and it really

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<v Speaker 2>is you can't imagine how it wouldn't take a toll

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<v Speaker 2>on somebody to just be constantly working. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just like she had a few roles here and there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was she and by all accounts, remarkably talented,

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<v Speaker 2>highly intelligent, and super efffescent and bubbly. And it's just

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<v Speaker 2>so sad to think that because and you see this

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<v Speaker 2>in so many tragic cases. I even think about someone

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<v Speaker 2>like Whitney Houston. When you have someone who's so talented,

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<v Speaker 2>who's such a hard worker, who is constantly working, and

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<v Speaker 2>their art is everywhere, and somehow it's almost as if

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<v Speaker 2>they've been taken advantage of, they've been used, they've been

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<v Speaker 2>a pawn in the entertainment industry, and they ultimately pay

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<v Speaker 2>with their own lives in the most tragic of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>And it does kind of feel like this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of those cases.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we all very curious to know what happened, given

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<v Speaker 1>that she seemed to be doing so well, very curious

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<v Speaker 1>to know what happened. But for the time being, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we she stretched enough, she touched I guess enough

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<v Speaker 1>variety of art robes that she made something that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>interested in, that I was a fan of, that, you

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<v Speaker 1>were a fan of that, your daughters were a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of that, my daughter was a fan of and just

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<v Speaker 1>it's go mean. And even though she was didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a starring role, she was in remember the type I

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<v Speaker 1>was just going to say that one, even that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>she has just been a part of some bitty, pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big I guess, cultural moments and very popular films in

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<v Speaker 1>that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Until Dawn. We just watched that one recently, until Don

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<v Speaker 2>that horror movie she was in so good. Obviously we

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<v Speaker 2>love Scream four, in Scream six and her last film

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't seen it, Sleepwalker. It's a psychological thriller, but

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<v Speaker 2>that was out in January. So yeah, she was working

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<v Speaker 2>the entire time. She was going through some debilitating personal

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<v Speaker 2>issues that so many people have faced. Just one of

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<v Speaker 2>those crises that she went through would be enough to

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<v Speaker 2>bring people or bring someone to the brink. She had

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<v Speaker 2>just tragedy after tragedy after tragedy, and ultimately now we

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<v Speaker 2>all wake up to this awful news and we just

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<v Speaker 2>we wish the best for those who knew her, loved her,

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<v Speaker 2>her family. This has got to just be so devasitting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think about her family who lost their son to

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<v Speaker 2>a just an unexpected heart failure at twenty and now

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<v Speaker 2>they've lost their daughter, both of their they were there

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<v Speaker 2>each other's only siblings, So I just I feel for

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<v Speaker 2>that family. It's uh, it's beyond tragic. But wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>put this on your radar and I'm sure we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more information in the days to come about

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<v Speaker 2>what led up to her untimely death. And with that, everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Roboch

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<v Speaker 2>alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk soon.