1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's Josh and Chuck is here in spirit too, 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: and we just wanted to drop a casual reminder that 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: we are going to have a swinging Pacific Northwest Swing 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: this coming February, and tickets are now on sale. February 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: one will be at the More Theater in Seattle, February 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: two will be at Revolution Hall in Portland, and on 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: February three, for SF Sketch Fest, will be at the 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Sydney Goldstein Theater. Go check out all of our social 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: media's for more information and links to tickets, and we'll 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: see you in February. Hey, I'm welcome to the Shorts 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: to Find Josh and there's Chuck tally Ho. It's short 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Stuff time and we're talking about something that admittedly I 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: kind of understand and kind of hope you really understand. 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: I do good. I do. Also, before we started, wanting 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: to give a hat tip to my wife, you me 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: who came up with this one said have you ever 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: heard of this? It's crazy? And I looked into it 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is crazy because what you 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: we found and what we're about to explain to all 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: of you is that humans are a species. Don't forget 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: we're animals with stripes. We actually are a striped species 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: of animal. Did you know that before? I've never heard 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: of this. I did not know we were all brindle 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: coated animals like my dog Nico. Yeah, that's exactly right, 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: that's exactly what we are. We have beautiful patterns of 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: swirls and whorls and drips and drops and all sorts 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: of cool stuff all over us, but we can't see 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: them normally under normal circumstances because we don't see on 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: the UV side of the spectrum. But if we did, 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: we'd be like, hey, I like your stripes. Oh, I 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: like your stripes. And with some people, depending on the 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: condition they have, they actually their stripes actually show. It's 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: pretty interesting stuff. But the whole thing we're talking about, 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: if you noticed, um the title of this episode, or 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: what are called blash cos lines, those are the stripes 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: that all humans have. Now did this happen? Because you 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: mean had a black light and went, oh my god, 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: I don't know where she turned this one up. I 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: didn't ask her. I'll have to ask her and then 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: we'll record a pick up. All right, So hold on 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: insert answer here. Uh So, blash cos lines that is 42 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: in fact a name. Uh. It was named after a dermatologist, 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: Alfred Blaschko and the nineteen hundreds. He was the first 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: person to uh notice this basically and write about it. Um. 45 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: He thought he was a little bit off though, because 46 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: he thought that they followed predefined patterns on humans. Um. 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: But they don't. And the weird thing is is you 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: might think is like, all right, so maybe these are 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: um lines that sort of indicate where your blood vessels 50 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: are or your nerve endings are, or your nerves or whatever. Um, 51 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: that is not the case. Uh, these stripes are not 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: blood vessels that you could see under a black light 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: at all. But we kind of know what it is now, 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, there's no system in the body that 55 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: these things follow. Instead, they're their own thing. They seem 56 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: to be their own thing, um, and they are distinct 57 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: on all people. But there are kind of some general 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: patterns that we'll talk about. But what what we've come 59 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: up with finally today is still today we're not certain 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: that this is correct, but the general consensus is that 61 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: what blash cos lines are evidence of the migratory route 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: that our skin cells took and then settled into while 63 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: we were developing in the womb. Right. Um, I'm just 64 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: gonna read this little bit from mental Flass because I 65 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: think it kind of sums it up nicely. Yeah. I 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: thought so too, And we always love to shout out 67 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: our our old pals at Mental Flass, the m f fs, 68 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: the ms uh. Basically, they said, these are cellular relics 69 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: of our development, basically from single cell uh things you 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: quoting this, No, I'm paraphrasing the beginning. Um, as the 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: cells of I did, they differentiated, some became muscles, others bones, 72 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: still others organs, and some became skin. As those skin 73 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: cells continued dividing, they expanded and stretched to cover a 74 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: quickly growing body. One cell line pushed and swirled through 75 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: another like steamed milk poured into an espresso to make 76 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: a latte, and Blash goes. Lines are the molecular evidence 77 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: of those swirls. It was very pretty writing. It was. 78 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: So the reason that we can see these lines, Chuck, 79 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: I think we should talk about after a break. So 80 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: the reasons we can see these lines, Chuck, I think 81 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: we're you talk about now? Very nice. So, Um, they 82 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: believe that the reason that there's differences even though you 83 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: can only see them under the UV spectrum. Under normal, 84 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: normal circumstances, you cannot see the difference between skin cells 85 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: on your arm, or on your shoulder, or on your 86 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: torso wherever, and you have blash cost lines all over 87 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: your body, as we'll see, because the cells that make 88 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: up our skin are almost entirely identical. They all come 89 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: from generally the same genetic information, so they all start 90 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: out from the same cell or gloves of cells. Like 91 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: mental falls pointed out, UM, But because of like the 92 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: different minute experiences that each cell has, those instructions get 93 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: produced and just slightly different ways, so that um, we 94 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: think of ourselves as like genetically monolithic beings. Right, It 95 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: turns out the term for humans UM are mosaics. All 96 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: of those cells are so slightly different that it's almost 97 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: like slightly different colored tiles being put up against one another. 98 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: And they're so similar that again, under normal light, you 99 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: can't see the difference. But when you put the put 100 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: yourself under a black light in a dark room, those 101 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: differences show up. That's why they think we're able to 102 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: see blash cost lines. That's why they think we have them. 103 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: It's the same reason when you look at identical twins. 104 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: They're they're actually a little bit different. Is again these 105 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: environmental factors that happen when you're a twin and and 106 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: in fact, uh, we just did an episode recently, what 107 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: was that on just this week on Doppelgangers. Doppelgangers when 108 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: they've seen a lot of evidence like when twins are 109 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: split up at birth, Um, they end up being quite 110 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: a bit different. And it's because of epigenetics. Isn't these 111 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: environmental factors. But even if they they aren't broken up, 112 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: even if they're together, these twins are these you know, 113 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: these minute little jenette differences that end up meaning these 114 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: twins are a little bit different. And that's the same 115 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: basic concept here. Yeah, but rather than whole people, we're 116 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: talking about the difference between genetically identical cells within one person. 117 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: There is something else called chimerism. So instead of mosaicism, 118 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: this is chimerism. And some people can have different genetic 119 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: material within them. So like um, very famously people with 120 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: two different eyes, they're chimeras, or they they're chimeric, I 121 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: should say, because different genetic information went into constructing each 122 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: eye and that's why they have two different colored eyes. 123 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: That's extraordinarily rare mosaicism apparently is universal that we're all. 124 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: We're just not if you took one cell in another 125 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: cell and you could get as granular as possible and 126 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: investigating them, you'd see that they're just slightly not the same, 127 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: even though they came from the same blueprint. Yeah, there's 128 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: a New York Mets picture that has one blue eye 129 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: and one dark eye? Is that David Bowie number seventy two. 130 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: It's Max Scherzer, And uh boy, it's just I didn't 131 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: even notice it until last year. And this is a 132 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: guy who's sort of at the latter stages of his career. 133 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: But then once you see a picture of this guy, 134 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, it's really a striking difference 135 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: because it's a very very blue eye and a very 136 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: very brown eye. Uh and I just think it's so 137 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: cool looking. Yeah, like what a I don't know. I 138 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: would just always just go right up to people's faces 139 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: and and go, hi, how are you just like freak 140 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: him out a little bit? I think it's really cool. 141 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: Give him the left side, and then the right side, 142 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: and left side and the right side. Yeah. So, like 143 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: we said, they're like there, there's kind of some general 144 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: rules that like these lines will follow depending on where 145 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: you are on your body. Right, Yeah, there's like patterns, 146 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: which makes sense because you know all of us sort 147 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: of grow generally in the same way as far as 148 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: arms and legs and finghies and toes and torsos and 149 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: necks and armpits and all that stuff. So depending on 150 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: what can we keep naming parts about the dirty parts, 151 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: let's start, Um, they're only two. Uh So when you're 152 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: looking at a body, like there will be maybe a 153 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: V shape down your back, uh and inverted you from 154 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: the breast to the upper arm. Your lateral trunk will 155 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: have a wave like shape. There might be an S 156 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: shape on your abdomen, stuff like that. Yeah, your scalp. Actually, 157 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: if you look at your whole head, it looks like 158 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: as far as your blash co lines are are concerned, 159 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: that you're wearing a ball of clava like around around 160 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: your eye areas open, but there's different like lines surrounding 161 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: it elsewise, and apparently on your scalp at spirals, whereas 162 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: on the side of your face it comes there like 163 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: kind of vertical lines. It's pretty cool. There's um, I 164 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: think blash Coo himself, did you know, some initial um 165 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: descriptions of it through sketches, but since then science has 166 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: really kind of gotten pretty good at drawing it. So 167 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: there's a lot of neat drawings of blash cos lines 168 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: on on the Internet of all places. But was he early? 169 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: He was like nineteen o one from what I saw, Okay, 170 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: the earliest. But Chuck, I think you should take the 171 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: fact of the short stuff, um, that the blash cos 172 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: lines don't just exist on the skin, right, Yeah, this 173 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: was pretty freaky. Um. Apparently your teeth and eyes and 174 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: tongue all have blash cose lines as well. Yeah, which 175 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean anything that that forms from cells, you know, 176 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: expressing themselves, writing poetry and songs. You mentioned earlier though 177 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: about there are certain conditions that someone might have where 178 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: these lines are revealed in in regular light with regular vision, 179 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, so vital eye where your skin loses 180 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: its pigmentation. Um, it often follows blash COEs lines. Um. 181 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: Also there's other types of congenital conditions, I believe, and 182 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: some inquired ones where um, so vidaigo would be like 183 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: a negative of your your blash COEs lines, whereas the 184 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: some of the other ones, they're like it's like a 185 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: tiger stripes. Like you can see the person's blash COEs 186 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: lines because it's hyper pigmented, so you can see them 187 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: without UV light. You can just see him under normal 188 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: visible light. And it's pretty cool looking, actually, I have 189 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: to say yeah, although usually if you look up on 190 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: the internet see what this looks like, it's just like 191 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: close ups of armpits and stuff. Sure, sure, and I 192 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: say it's pretty cool looking. I don't know how you know, 193 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: somebody who has a condition where their blash goes lines 194 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: are showing all the time feel about it. But as 195 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: an observer, I think it's pretty interesting and neat. And 196 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: then also when you stop and think about if you're 197 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: like that person's skin is striped, your skin is striped 198 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: to pal you just don't see it because you have 199 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: to see it under normal UV lights. Yeah, pretty cool. Yeah. 200 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: So that's it for blash Coast Lines a A thanks 201 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: you me and thank you friend for listening to this episode. 202 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: Stuff You Should Know is a production of I Heart Radio. 203 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: For more podcasts my heart Radio, visit the I heart 204 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 205 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: favorite shows. H