1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: M from grandmothers who whispered in their baby girl in 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: two fathers on dimly lit street corners, instructing young soldiers 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: to always keep their eyes open. You be queen, you 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: were fired. You will pass through centuries on the hands 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: of your daughters. They called you wisdom. Proverbs on the 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: backs of diamond eyed school children who growing into hymnals 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: recited by amethyst holding urban philosophers who recited neighborhood commandments 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: out of the windows of restored ALCHEMYO chariots to keep 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: the warmth of their blood. Be wise, be smart, being black. 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: Opal Brown courts bloodstone and prayer. Be every form of 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Jim se King told scribe, scribe, told son, son, told wife, 12 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: wife told her daughter, and daughter told the ants. This 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: is at the ancestors told me that you would come 14 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: to give wisdom of thousands. They said you would come 15 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: dropping Dropping the Gym. Hey, welcome to the Dropping Jim's Podcast. 16 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm your host, DeBie Brown. Welcome back, Welcome back. So 17 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: let's go today's show. We're diving into health. We talk 18 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: a lot on this show about spirit, about our minds, 19 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: our bodies, our souls in the connection, and today's episode 20 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: feels really really nourishing already, because we're going to talk 21 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: about how to really come into integration with all those 22 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: facets of our human experience. And I have a real 23 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: heavy hitter on the show today, someone whose work, even 24 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: without meeting them, had really informed and impacted my life 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: in the way that I treat and experienced my body. 26 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: So today's special guests on the show is Dr Will Cole, 27 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: which I'm sure so many are already familiar with his work, 28 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: already familiar by following him on Instagram, by following his work, 29 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: and today we get to hear from him. Dr Will 30 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: Cole is a leading functional medicine expert who consults people 31 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: around the world via webcam and locally in Pittsburgh. Named 32 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: one of the top fifty functional medicine and integrative doctors 33 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: in the nation, Dr Cole specializes in clinically investigating underlying 34 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: factors of chronic disease and customizing a functional medicine approach 35 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: for thyroid issues, autoimmune conditions, hormonal imbalances, digestive disorders, and 36 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: brain problems. He's the best selling author of Keto Terian, 37 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: The Inflammation Spectrum, and the New York Times bestseller Intuitive 38 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: Fasting and which He shows how to use the powerful 39 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: benefits of flexible intermitute fasting to gain metabolic flexibility and 40 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: find food peace. Dr Cole is also the host of 41 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: the new podcast The Art of Being Well and as 42 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: co hosted the popular podcast Goop, Fellas Podcast and Keto Talk. 43 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: And you know, when I think about bringing Dr Cole 44 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: on this show, something that has radically changed about my 45 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: life in the last couple of years, but especially I 46 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: feel like in the last eighteen months is the way 47 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: that I experienced my body and something I've shared on 48 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: social media quite a bit after I had my son 49 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: was that intermitute fasting and also a keto diet really 50 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: helped me reclaim my connection to feeling my body. Yes, 51 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: I was able to lose weight from my pregnancy, really effortlessly, 52 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: um in a way that felt nourishing to me. But 53 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: aside from the weight loss, I have noticed such a 54 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: deep love and acceptance of my body in such a 55 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: new way. I've noticed such a deep connection to really 56 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: being able to fully here, understand and also support my 57 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: body's needs. Uh. And one of the things that has 58 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: really changed my life is I have been able to 59 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: move through so much inflammation and really restore my body 60 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: to UM what feels like deep peace and deep nourishment. 61 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: And so I'm excited to see how all of that 62 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: has been possible and to learn all of the things 63 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: from the genius that is Dr Will Cole. Welcome to 64 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: the show. Dr will Cole. Thank you so much, Thank 65 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: you so much. I'm excited that we're talking. It's official, 66 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 1: It's official, And you know, on this show, I always 67 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: love to ground it with how I've connected to people. 68 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: UM and I follow you on Instagram and we've had 69 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of exchange there. But I love your 70 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: posts and I love your books. And as I shared 71 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: with the audience as we were getting going, you know, 72 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: intermittent fasting is something that it changed my life. It 73 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: changed the way that I relate to my body. It 74 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: changed the way that I feel like it allowed me 75 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: to really activate my body's intuition in such a deep way. UM. 76 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: So I'm so excited to have you here. You have 77 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: such incredible books, such incredible work that you've put into 78 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: the world, and I'd love to ground this conversation by 79 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: first starting with what exactly is functional medicine. Well, thank 80 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: you so much for having me. Functional medicine in there 81 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: are three main points that I see it and how 82 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: I see it. From number one, we interpret labs using 83 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: a thinner reference range. So anybody that's listening right now, 84 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: they'll know they get when they get their standard labs, 85 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: they go to their doctor's office, they get their number 86 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: on a lab, and then they're being compared to this 87 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: reference range, this extra y interval of numbers. We get 88 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: that reference range largely from a statistical Bell curve average 89 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: of the population of that specific lab. So people know, 90 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, think about this, Who are people that are 91 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: predominantly going to labs? Sadly people with health problems. So 92 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that know, intuitively, there's something 93 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 1: not right here. I don't feel good in my body. 94 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: There's my body is telling me something, and they go 95 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: and they try to get that substantiated with labs, and 96 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: the labs come back quote unquote normal many times, and 97 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: the doctor says, everything's fine, you're just depressed. There's an antidepressant, 98 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: you're just getting older, you're just a new mom, you 99 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: just need to lose weight, all of these sort of 100 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: well intentioned reasons, but what they're really in effect telling 101 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 1: the patient is you're a lot like the other people 102 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: with health issues that we're comparing you too, and comparing 103 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: yourself to people with health problems. There's no way for 104 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: you to find out how to feel your best and 105 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: find out what's going on in your body. So we're 106 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: looking at a thinner range within that larger reference range. 107 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: That's the functional range. Where does your body function the best, 108 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: Where does vibrant wellness reside? That's the functional range. So 109 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: we're looking at the thinner interval within that larger reference 110 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: range of optimal not average. And then number two, we 111 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: run more comprehensive labs, so we're looking at root issues 112 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: like underlying gut problems or chronic infections, or hormonal imbalances, 113 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: or the list goes on. It's case specific. We want 114 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: to look at a health history comprehensively and then run 115 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: appropriate labs, but thorough labs. We want to be comprehensive. 116 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: And then we realize we're all created differently and there's 117 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: not going to be a cookie cutter approach to getting healthy. 118 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: And I could have a hundred people with the same 119 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: diagnosis that let's say fatigue, Well, what's causing fatigue for 120 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 1: one person is not causing it for the next person. 121 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: So I want to really look at We see these 122 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: symptoms like fatigue or weight loss, resistance or anxiety or 123 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: different types of inflammation. We see these as check engine lights. 124 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: We know that check engine light is on, but why 125 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: that's different. We want to look at the root issues 126 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: and and see the individual We call it bio individuality. 127 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: It's it's the uniqueness of you. And so that's in 128 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: a nutshow of functional medicine is so I started one 129 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: of the first functional medicine telehealth centers in the world 130 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: over a decade ago. So a lot of the things 131 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: you see me posting on social media is me being 132 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: talking like we're talking right now. But I do this 133 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: eleven hours a day with people with their labs and 134 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: their health. I love it so much. It's such a 135 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: sacred responsibility for me to really give people answers that 136 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: are trying to seek what the heck is going on? Wow, 137 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: I love I mean the way that you even framed 138 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: your work as a sacred responsibility is so powerful to me, 139 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: especially as we have such you know, we're finally starting 140 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: to expand on bigger conversations on how the medical industry 141 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: is not always very helpful or healing and also in 142 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: communities of color. How the medical industry is also really 143 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: structured for oppression um and has quite often killed people 144 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: from a lack of looking at the total view of 145 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: a human being. So when I hear you say that, 146 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: I'm just like my God, like the power in this, 147 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: the power of us even seen ourselves as we get 148 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: seen by the medical community, as this is something sacred. 149 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: This is our body, this is our this is the 150 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: house of our soul, this is the human technology that 151 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: we work with on earth to be human. And the 152 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: fact that it's not seen such as a sacred responsibility 153 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: like you framing it that way, it's really powerful for me. 154 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. I mean, I really this is something 155 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: I take very seriously. I have a heart for the 156 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: people that are going through it because there's so many 157 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: people are kept back from the things they were created 158 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: for because of their health issues that they're that they're 159 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: experiencing right now, and so many people are delegitimized systematically 160 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: because they these are silent issues. Many times I deal 161 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: a lot with people with autoimmune problems. On the outside, 162 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: they look quote unquote normal, but they don't know. People 163 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: don't know what it takes just to get through the 164 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: day when you're struggling with different autoimmune issues and different 165 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: inflammatory problems. So to give a voice and give answers 166 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: to people that are really seeking and not getting the answers, 167 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: it's something we have to do so much better in healthcare, 168 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: and hopefully you know, in my way, in my lane, 169 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm doing that for my patients. Wow. Wow, what's the 170 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: first thing that you do when someone comes into you. Well, 171 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: it's all telehealth and it's been tell health for twelve years. 172 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: When I'm talking to them, I'm stepping into their home 173 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: quite figuratively, like very much on a real energetic level, 174 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: even that I'm coming into their space, and it's interesting, 175 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: even though we're separated through a computer and we're not 176 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: there physically together, to hold space for people that are 177 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: going through very heavy things is a major part of 178 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: my job because it's not just about getting the words, 179 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: meaning you're not just getting information during that it's a 180 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: consultation at first, right, so I'm getting health history. I'm 181 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: really digging deep into these things that aren't really asked about. 182 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: I had one older gentlemen tell me years ago, and 183 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: I still think about it. He asked me all the 184 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: questions we had in the questionnaire and the consultations over 185 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: an hour and he said, he said, are you in 186 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: the KGB? Are you trying to get information out of mean? 187 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: It's like, no, I'm not in the KGB. But I 188 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: don't want to be redundant. I don't want to add 189 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: to your pile of doctors visits that you've done. I 190 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: want to really do be of service to you and 191 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: see what's being missed here and not be redundant an 192 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: autopilot or just being flippant with what's going on. I 193 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: really want to be thoughtful and do my due diligence. 194 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of question asking, but it's beyond 195 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: it's beyond that. The holding space part is the space 196 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: in between the words. It's like, okay, what's the frequency 197 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: in which are even operating with Because there's the clinical 198 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: side of things, but what's going on behind the scenes 199 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: that maybe they don't even know. It's ineffable, they don't 200 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: even know really what's going on. So it's the science 201 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: and the art of functional medicine is how I see it. 202 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: But it's it's it's holding both with respect. Wow, how 203 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: big of a role do you see mental an emotional 204 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: health plane into someone's physical health. Wow, I mean that's 205 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: an important thing. It's something that we talk about a lot, 206 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: and even just that first consultation when I'm talking to 207 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: them online, we're talking a lot about it. And I 208 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: have to educate people because in the West, people like 209 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: to separate mental health from physical health. But the reality 210 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: is mental health is physical health. Our brain is part 211 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: of our body, and there's a whole field of research 212 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: actually looking at this for a long time. It's called 213 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: the cytokine model of cognitive function. Cytokinds are pro inflammatory cells, 214 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: so it's research looking at how inflammation cyto kinds. How 215 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: does inflammation impacting how our brain works, How is it 216 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: impacting mental health? So mental health is one and the 217 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: same with physical health. But if you're looking at this 218 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: bidirectional relationship, right, our thoughts and emotions impact our physiology, 219 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: meaning a stressful season of our life, or a toxic 220 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: relationship ship or unhealthy work environment or whatever is going 221 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: on mental emotionally that impacts your physiology. There's so much 222 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: research coming out about the impact that negativity, stress trauma 223 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: has on our body, has on our inflammation levels, has 224 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: on our gut health, has on our hormones has in ship, 225 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: putting our body more in this sympathetic fight or flight 226 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: stress state. But conversely, our physiology meaning underlying GUP problems 227 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: or inflammation things that are going on in our body, 228 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: impacts our thoughts and emotions. Meaning if you have high 229 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: inflammation levels, that's going to drive anxiety. If you have 230 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: underlying GUP problems, it's linked to triggering neurological symptoms. So 231 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: there's so many we have to look at both sides 232 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: of the coin, and when we separate them as some 233 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: sort of thing that's compartmentalizes the mental health, it's really 234 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: one and the same with physical health. Oh my gosh, 235 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: that you know I had. I had some real experiences 236 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: with understanding that within my own body recently, especially in 237 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: the last year. Um Like, I ended a really significant 238 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: relationship in my life and the last year and I 239 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: saw my health dramatically improve, like dramatically in ways that 240 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,359 Speaker 1: I didn't think we're possible. I'm someone that had previously 241 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: suffered from chronic pain for close to twenty years and 242 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: doctors could never figure out what it was. And then 243 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: when I started one intermitte fasting and then also clearing 244 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: my life of non serving connections. I just saw my 245 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: ability to heal myself, my ability to be with myself 246 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: expand truly in ways I can never fathom. Dr Cole like, 247 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: it felt very very much like a miracle what I 248 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: have seen take place in my body. Yeah, it's powerful. 249 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: We give our body the chance to do so, to 250 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: find homeostasis that there. I've seen people up against some 251 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: really heavy things be able to move the needle really 252 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: significantly if they give their body the chance to do so. 253 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: And I how you even said that. It's like you 254 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: intermitted fast it but it also is like you went 255 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: on a fast of certain things that weren't serving you. 256 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: You're you want a fast of things that we're impacting 257 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: your physiology just as much as a food that's inflammatory. 258 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: And people need to realize the thoughts and emotions and 259 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: stress and shame. That's junk food for the soul. You 260 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: can clean up super you could be super healthy eating 261 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: kale and kombucha, but if you're throwing down a big 262 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: slice of stress every day, that's gonna raise inflammation levels 263 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: just as much as that quote unquote junk food. People 264 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: need to realize that. And look, that's tougher to do 265 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: because it's easy to say that food is not going 266 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: to serve you, that food is gonna sabotage how you 267 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: want to feel, it's going to raise inflammation, impact your gut, 268 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: help whatever. It's a lot harder to say this emotion 269 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: or this person that's integral your life for this situation, 270 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: because not everybody can leave a situation overnight and it 271 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: just stopped it. But it's that work, that's the work 272 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: that you really teach so eloquently about, is that they 273 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: have to start dealing with that because that impacts their 274 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: physical health so so intensely. God Well, like I'm like, 275 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: let's just go to church right now. Um, that is 276 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: so powerful. And I think you know too. And and 277 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: to the point that you said, because I do want 278 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: to always be connected to the fact that there are 279 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: there is always privilege available. So there are some relationships, 280 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: there are some experiences, there are some jobs that you 281 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: can't just say, all right, let me let's start from scratch, 282 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, And sometimes we do have to be in 283 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: the thick of things. But even the awareness of it, 284 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: the awareness of the potential effect it is having on you, 285 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: gives you freedom, even if it's not a scenario you 286 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: can step away from just yet expanding yourself to the acknowledgement, 287 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: to the observation of how it's affecting you propels you forward, 288 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: I think energetically in so many ways um and allows 289 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: your body to be heard and felt in so many ways. 290 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: M Absolutely, I think. I think Egard totally said this 291 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: one time. He said, you have to be look at 292 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: any given situation. He said, can you change it? Can 293 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: you leave it? And if you can't do either either 294 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: change or leave it, you need to be an acceptance 295 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: of it. And sometimes that acceptance is radical. It's like 296 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: you have to have a piece that passes all understanding 297 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: because it seems unacceptable. But I have found that people 298 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: if they can't change it and they can't leave it, 299 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: they have to be in a state of acceptance through it. 300 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: But I still acknowledging that it's it's it is not 301 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: something that's going to serve them long term. But if 302 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: they can't leave it, I feel like if people can 303 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: change the things, they can change people that are really 304 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: in tough situations, but they deal with the things they 305 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: can change and things don't have to be perfect to 306 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: start feeling better and start reclaiming their health. People need 307 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: to realize that they don't have to have it all 308 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: sorted out to start feeling better. Are moving people in 309 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: the right direction, because oftentimes people feel like they have 310 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: to like they like they just have to be Martha 311 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: Stewart in the kitchen and have no stress, nothing to 312 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: worry about, like then my life will be good. But 313 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: the reality is that's not true. You could be wherever 314 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: you're at right now to at least improve the situation 315 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: with with positive things, even if it's even if it's 316 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: little things, even if not everything's perfect. Thank you so 317 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: much for that. Thank you for that. When we started 318 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: the show, Um, one of the things that I kind 319 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: of was so excited to stay right away was like 320 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: inter medifasting changed my whole life. Uh. And I've been 321 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: really excited to talk to you about this because even 322 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: before I found you on social media, I connected with 323 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: your book Ketoterian and it's a mainstay in my house. 324 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: And I have a three year old who I think 325 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: he was just a natural born vegetarian, like he will 326 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: just never doesn't want to taste me, doesn't want to 327 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: have anything to do with it. So I'm honoring that, um, 328 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: And so in the book book I found some really 329 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: powerful recipes that i've really that have been so nourishing, 330 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: I think for myself for sure, and also for my child. 331 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: But I was so excited because I started Keto because 332 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: I started seeing it on Instagram and I'm like, what 333 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: is this? And then I did a deep dive, like 334 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: I said, Okay, I think I'm called to do this. 335 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: So I spent three weeks researching it and reading books 336 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: and reading you know, background behind it. Your book was 337 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: one of the game changers for me. And then when 338 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: I started Keto, I noticed that it really cured this 339 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: lifelong issue I had with inflammation, Like I was always swollen. 340 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: My face was swollen, my hands, my feet, my stomach 341 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: was always swollen even if I was barely eating, and 342 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't understand it. And so I guess this is 343 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: my long way of asking you, how is it that 344 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: keto changed my life? Like? What did it do to me? Actually? 345 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: I love it. Let's talk about the science of it, 346 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: because it's exciting. It's very exciting, And that's kind of 347 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: what I was saying with the physical stuff. It's like 348 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: the physiological stuff is how powerful small changes can what 349 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: the ripple effect that can have on your health just 350 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: small things. And ketogenic diet and interment fasting, both of 351 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: those are really part of the same umbrella of research 352 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: because the ketogenic diet is in many ways fasting mimicking, 353 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: So it's mimicking the benefits of fasting while you're eating, 354 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: so eating in a specific way and with ketoterian it's 355 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: a clean ketogenic diet. Like right when I made the 356 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: name of the title, it's like this amalgamation is alchemy 357 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: between the best of being clean, plant forward, eating whole 358 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: foods with a ketogenic approach. That's what keytotarian is. So 359 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: there's vegan, vegetarian and pscytarian way of doing the ketogenic diet. 360 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: But it's cyclical, you know, always in keytosis, most people aren't. 361 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: So high fat, high healthy fats, moderate protein, low carbohydrate 362 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: diet is what the keyto gen guy is. So support 363 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: something called the beta hydroxy butty rate. The liver produces 364 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: beta hydroxy beauty rate b HB out of the liver 365 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: and it's a what researchers call an epigenetic modulator. So 366 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: epigenetics is the the influence that that the our environment 367 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: can have on our genes. So it kind of it 368 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: instructs genetic expression, and one of them is it works 369 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: on a lot of different inflammatory pathways, so you're explaining 370 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: all lowered inflammation. Inflammation is the commonality between just about 371 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: every health problem under the sun. I mean, if you're 372 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: looking at autoimmune conditions or metabolic issues, or fatigue or 373 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: anxiety or depression, there's research looking at inflammations, implication and 374 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: just about every health problem. So this is a natural 375 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: way and completely freeway, meaning that you just have to 376 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: be eating food in a specific way or fasting not 377 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: eating foods in a very a specific way to support 378 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: this beta hydroxy betterate, which is known also in the 379 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: research as the fourth macro nutrient. So we have protein, fats, carbs, 380 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: and keytone bodies. Uh, and it's a natural way to 381 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: lower inflammation, increasing brain function, and improve something called b 382 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: d n F brain drive neurotropic factor actually encouraging your 383 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: brain to make new neurons and improve something called neuroplasticity, 384 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: which is the brain's ability to repair itself, and it 385 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: improves mitochondrial function, It improves something called atapa G which 386 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: is cellular recycling, selling the renewal pathways. I go on 387 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: and on and on, but the I think it's eloquently 388 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: put this way. I quote in the book and Intuitive Fasting, 389 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: my newest book, guy named Paracelsus. He was one of 390 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: the fathers of modern medicine. Hippocrates, the other guy, the 391 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: Hippocratic oath. Every doctor takes it. He used fasting for 392 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: his patients in Greece thousands of years ago, but Paracelsus 393 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: and Switzerland also used it. He was known as the 394 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: Martin Luther Menace because he was reforming medicine at the time. 395 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: He called fasting which produces key tones the physician within 396 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: which I think the state of cyclical ketosis is that 397 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: it's this inner doctor that allows your body to repair, renew, rebalance. 398 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: And we're just catching up with antiquity, with with with research, 399 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: with science, with the scientific literature. I love you so 400 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: that we're just catching up with antiquity because it's the pathways, right. 401 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, but it's like, you know, it's really the 402 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: things that worked through the ages are the things that 403 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: will always work. And it's like, you know, science and 404 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: capitalism and so many different things, so so many different 405 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: layers that sometimes blend together. Um, I think put all 406 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: of these other quote unquote tools or resources in front 407 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: of us, because the bottom line is it makes money, 408 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, but it's not necessarily what's best for us. 409 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: And I'm finding that so much of these ancient techniques 410 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: and practices. You know, it's like science wants to say, oh, 411 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: there's not scientific research, Well who funded it? You know 412 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: what I mean? Scientific research has to be funded. That's 413 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: how we get it. And so it's like that to 414 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: me is never the leading force of how I make 415 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: a choice for myself. Um, if someone's saying if there's research, 416 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: the backs that are not even though there is quite 417 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: a bit of research around this what we're speaking to today. 418 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, but you're right. I mean I I encourage 419 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: people like the same thing, be your own and of 420 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: one experiment. Now there is science in this now, but 421 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: people like you said they knew anecdotally for thousands of years. 422 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: Fasting has been used around the globe for thousands of years, 423 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: not because they had a double blind, placebo controlled trial, 424 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: but because they saw it improved their health. Yeah. Yeah, okay, 425 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: you know when we when we're talking about when we're 426 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: talking about fasting, and especially you know, it's so it's 427 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: so interesting because the fasting aspect of it is what 428 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: I believe really ignited my intuition in new ways that 429 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: has served me mind, by and soul. Like fasting for 430 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: me has really turned into such a a nourishing, holistic 431 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: approach to get all of me in alignment. And you know, 432 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: I think many religious belief systems, especially in Christianity, fasting 433 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: is a mainstay, you know, of the belief. Like very 434 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: often I'd hear friends and people say, Oh, I'm fasting 435 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: because I'm waiting to get you know, deeper insider understanding 436 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: from God. And I have found that, you know, fasting, meditation, prayer, 437 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: it has. It has such a gorgeous balance coming together 438 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: in the clarity that I feel in my brain, um 439 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: in the spaciousness I feel in my body, and also 440 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm more deeply fed, you know that 441 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: when I am eating, it's in a way that is 442 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: far more serving to myself and my body. And I 443 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: manifasting makes me, honestly, I feel like a completely different 444 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: creature entirely now, almost like a superhero sometimes. So I'm 445 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: just curious, why how is this working in me? Yeah? Well, 446 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: I mean I think that's beautiful. And that's why I 447 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: called the book Intuitive fasting because I wanted to reclaim 448 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: intermittent fasting from and take it back in my own way, 449 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: like for me and my people and my patients and 450 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: things that this is a concept that I've talked about 451 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: with patients for a long time, but I wanted to 452 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: reclaim it him in fastening from diet culture and just 453 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: diet culture and also take GUYE culture culture and educate 454 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: them from a functional medicine standpoint and just a more 455 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: mindful of standpoint. The fasting is way beyond this zeitgeist 456 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: bubble that fasting is having in our culture right now. 457 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: It's lived on for thousands of years, and even when 458 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: the zeitgeist pop culture bubble burst, it will still live 459 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: on because it's just something that's just part of our DNA. 460 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: Humans fasted for a long period of time, So there's 461 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 1: a lot of things going on here, and it's so 462 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: tied into the keytogenic diet. And that's why I recommend 463 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: a cyclical, clean ketogenic diet with intermittent fasting. I don't 464 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: advocate someone to fast their way out of a poor diet. 465 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: So by bringing these together and amplifies the benefits of both, 466 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: and it's just a powerful tool and fasting. Researchers estimate 467 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: that our genetics haven't changed in ten thousand years, that 468 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: our world has changed so much. It doesn't take much 469 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: of a look around to see how much our world 470 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: has changed just in a generation or two, let alone 471 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: in ten thousand years. Our world has changed very much 472 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: in a very dramatic period of very short period of time, 473 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: very dramatically. So it's what researchers call a genetic epigenetic 474 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: mismatch or an evolutionary mismatch. That our DNA is living 475 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: in this brave new world eating things that we've never 476 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: eaten before, eating not just what we're eating, by how 477 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: much we're eating and when we're eating has changed so 478 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: much and exposed environmental toxins and chronic stresses and technology. 479 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: All that stuff really can trigger genetic predispositions that have 480 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: laid dormant for ten years but are being triggered and 481 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: awoken like never before in human history because of this 482 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: onslaught of epigenetic stressors. So that's what fasting really does. 483 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: It kind of takes us closer to our roots. It 484 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: kind of decreases that chasm just a little bit between 485 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: genetics and epigenetics and our body is like I'll take 486 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: whatever I can get, even like fast, thank you, Like 487 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: I'll move a little bit closer to where I came from, 488 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: thank you. And it's like a little little csta in 489 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: a way for your body to kind of get back 490 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: to where it came from. And it's that inner physician 491 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: that Paracelsis said thousands of years ago. So it's tapping 492 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: into this beta hydroxy bet it's tapping into this inter position. 493 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: It's doing amazing thing systemically throughout your body, just cascades 494 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: of healing throughout your body. So that's what intriment fasting does. Wow. Wow, 495 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: how did you find your work in this way? Well, 496 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: I was, in hindsight, I was a very weird kid. 497 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: I look back and I think, man, my son's fifteen 498 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: years old. I was a strange kid, like seeing myself 499 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: like through what he's doing. Like. My first job was 500 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: at the finish line selling shoes at the mall where 501 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm from in western Pennsylvania. That's a pretty cool job 502 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: for a young guy. It was. It was cool. I 503 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: got a discount. You yeah, get all the kid. So 504 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: that's I used my paycheck at finish line to go 505 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 1: to the health food store co op in my small 506 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: town to like buy the latest, like adapted genic herbs, 507 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: and it was I was bio hacking before bio hacking 508 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: was a thing, to like see how food and natural 509 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: medicines and fasting was part of that. How would this 510 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: impact how I felt? So that was just a passion, 511 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: personal passion of mine, and then it evolved to me 512 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: wanting to be formally trained in this. So I went 513 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: to an integrative medicine school and you know the rest is, 514 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: you know what I do. I graduated and knowing I 515 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: wanted to do telehealth. It's not that I the telehealth 516 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: wasn't even a thing twelve years ago. Was called we 517 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: called it, we didn't have a name for it. We 518 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: called it a virtual functional medicine clinic because that's kind 519 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: of what it was. But then later on the term was, 520 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, telehealth. But I've spent my entire career talking 521 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: to people via webcam like this, and it's just I 522 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: have a family history of autoimmunity, and it's that specifically. 523 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: It was very much a personal passion of mine. So 524 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: it was all born out of that. The weird health 525 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: and their kid kind of evolved from there. That's so cool. 526 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: And I think especially I was at a retreat many 527 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: years ago in Sedona and it was a retreat about 528 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: physical healing and it was mostly doctors at the retreat. 529 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: I was probably one of the only one because they 530 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: were getting like extended um I don't know what it's 531 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: called extra learning credits that you know, you know, every 532 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: year to keep up with continuing education, Yes, continuing education. 533 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: And I remember one of the doctors that I sat 534 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: next to for this for this week end was um. 535 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: He was a heart surgeon and he was there and 536 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: he was saying how he had to keep it a 537 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: secret that he was at this spiritual health retreat because 538 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: his community would not accept him. And and I was 539 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: so and I was so curious about that, and I said, 540 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, well, why what brings you here? And he 541 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: was like, because we're dying. He was like, my colleagues 542 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: are dying left and right, like all the doctors I 543 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: work with, we have such poor health, smoking, drinking, you know, UM. 544 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: And it that was just so fascinating to me that 545 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: it's like health is healing, yet the disconnect from doctors 546 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: being able to care for themselves, and then also all 547 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: of the larger understanding of the body and the soul. 548 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: How that's not even in all of the education that 549 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: is required to be a doctor. That's not a part 550 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: of it. And that was so striking to me. Yeah, 551 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: I know it's I I quoted or cited a study 552 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: in my second book, the book before Intuitive Fascinting. It's 553 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: called the inflammation spectrum, and I studied I study in 554 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: in a medical journal that showed that the majority of 555 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: medical students would once they're you know, towards the end 556 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: of their their career or their their student career, is 557 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 1: that they would fail a basic nutrition test. Most conventional 558 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: doctors would fail a basic nutrition test. But yet look 559 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: at the statistics. It's like the majority of health problems 560 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: we face as a society is largely lifestyle driven. So 561 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: why isn't it being taught, Why is being talked about 562 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: not even just not being taught. Why is this being 563 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: discouraged from people asking questions or wanting to have agency 564 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,479 Speaker 1: over their health? Why is this So there's a lot 565 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: of reasons for that, probably, but I'm my job here 566 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: is to say, like, let's empower the person that we're 567 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: talking to, whether that's my patient or it's people listening 568 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: to this podcast is to um really ask whys and 569 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: find out what's going on for their health because you're 570 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 1: not going to get it largely from the mainstream system. 571 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: You're going to get those pockets of amazing physicians. And actually, 572 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: most of my colleagues in functional medicine are conventionally trained. 573 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: They're they're being trained through the Institute for Functional Medicine. 574 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: The Cleveland Clinic has a Functional Medicine Center that we're 575 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: all trained through i FM. So there are amazing physicians 576 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: that are conventionally trained, but by and large they are 577 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: small pockets within a big, monolithic system that is not 578 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: going to be talking about these things. Wow. Yeah, the 579 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: monolithic system really stuck out. Yeah, because it is. It's 580 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: a it's such a vast system, and you know, I 581 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: think that's the that's the thing that all of us 582 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: just have to make more peace with, is that every everything, 583 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: everything has its layers to it. You have your good, 584 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: you're mediocre, you're bad. But yeah, I mean, the good 585 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: thing is we have statistically one of the best emergency 586 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: care systems in the world. But how we're dealing with 587 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: chronic healthcare, how we're dealing with mental health, that's the problem. 588 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: Because I we can always should all be commending the 589 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: good things. But just because we have good things with 590 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: emergency care and life saving surgeries and things in that realm, 591 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: that's all amazing, But what are we doing with everybody 592 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: with chronic health problems? So that's a lot of people. Um, 593 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: So that that's what I'm trying to empower people to do, 594 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: and realizing that if you change the hearts of mind 595 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: of the individual, if you got to start grassroots thing 596 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: and honestly think with the advent of podcast and the 597 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: democratization of information like this and articles and the blogosphere, 598 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: and I was talking about this for as long as 599 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: we for the past twelve years or so, I think 600 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: that's what has brought integrated medicine sections within mainstream institutions. 601 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: Like when we started out, there was no Cleveland Clinic 602 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,959 Speaker 1: functional medicine center, and now there's integrated medicine sections within 603 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: mainstream institutions. I really believe in parts due to the 604 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: people wanting wanting information and wanting options and choice with 605 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 1: their healthcare. Wow. Yeah yeah, Is there anything in your 606 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: field that you're excited about right now? Right now? Personally? Um, 607 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: Like I'm consulting patients eight am to six pm, six 608 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: thirty seven pm, like all day long, throughout the day. 609 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: What is exciting to me is the what we're doing. 610 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: Most of my patients are private one on one telehealth 611 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: like this, we're talking one on one. But we started 612 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: this group model, which is really exciting for me because 613 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: if you have you know, fifty people in a virtual 614 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: room and I can talk to everybody fifty at at 615 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: the same time, versus doing fifty hours individually, I'm able 616 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: to really help a lot more people. And also it 617 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: gives people a community where they are very isolated because 618 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: maybe their family and friends don't get it, like they 619 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: don't know what fatigue, they don't know what it's like, 620 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: they don't know what odd immunities like, they don't know 621 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: what panic attacks are like. And to provide not only 622 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: me being able to reach more people in a ten hour, 623 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: eleven hour day, but also it's an amazing community and 624 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: it makes it more accessible for people. You have talked 625 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: about privilege and accessibility. We're excited for those two reasons, 626 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: like we're able to help more people, were able to 627 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: create a community, but it also enables us to make 628 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: this more accessible and more affordable to people as well, 629 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: so I'm excited about that model too. Wow, I'm excited 630 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: about this sim yet so last last piece that I 631 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: would love to ask for anyone that is really feeling 632 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: themselves kind of perking up to hearing this conversation. Maybe 633 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: this is taking you into a new pathway in your 634 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: mind and heart, and the options are starting to expand 635 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: for you, rebalancing, replenishing, restoring. What are some ways to 636 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: start doing that, to start kind of coming into this 637 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: functional medicine approach, this more holistic view of one's health. 638 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: What are some ways or some maybe something someone could 639 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: do each day some questions to start asking, Yeah, thank you, 640 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: that's a great question. So here a few things. Going 641 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: back to that earlier statement of intuitive fasting, that concept 642 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: is I've created that book and that concept for people 643 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: outside of my clinic for than just just read to 644 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: use fasting as a medicine, but also as a meditation. 645 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: So I think that that is what fully in fasting 646 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: can be used. Like it's one thing to talk about 647 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: the clinical nutrition, the science of it, what's it doing 648 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: for your health? What's it what's the physiological health benefits 649 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: of it? That's using fasting as a medicine we talked 650 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: about that, but let's not leave it like that. And 651 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 1: I think that it's so much richer, so much exponentially 652 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: more powerful when you use fasting how our ancestors used it, 653 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: and no matter where you came from, no matter where 654 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: what your heritage looks like, fasting has been used for 655 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: not just health benefits by early doctors, but also used 656 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: for spiritual benefits, benefits, for mindfulness benefits. So I brought 657 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 1: in the book, I brought this concept called metaphysical meals, 658 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: which is basically just what our ancestors were just called 659 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: stillness or prayer or meditation. It's it's using these things 660 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: that calm the noise, because there's physiological noise going on 661 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: in our body in the form of chronic inflammation, hormonal imbalance, 662 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: underlying gut problems. This is uh, this analogy that I 663 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: use of like how we see climate change going on 664 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: in our world, we're seeing physiological climate change in the 665 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: form of chronic inflammation in the human body. That's proverbial 666 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: imbalance going on. And we're part of nature, one and 667 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: the same. So we're just like a physiological manifestation of 668 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: what we're part of and what I want people to 669 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: realize is that there's also a lot of mental emotional noise. 670 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean, all you have to do is look at 671 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 1: at social media and the sort of endless vortex of noise, 672 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: and a lot of it is is negative, like what 673 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: you and I are trying to do, and you do 674 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: so great. It's just creates some pockets of light within 675 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: a toxic tribal environment. And I feel like the concept 676 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: that I talked about and intuitive fasting is really that resetting, 677 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: calming the physiological noise in the form of calming inflammation, 678 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: but also if you use it as a meditation, it's 679 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: also calming that mental emotional noise too, and that's the 680 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: best healing. So I think that people bring acts of 681 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: stillness in their life, bring some intermittent factsing that's flexible 682 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: in their life. And I put together before week protocol 683 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: in the book. So it's very light, very flexible, very 684 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: checking in with your body throughout all of this. Because 685 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: we are all different and some fast some people need 686 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: fat more fasting, some people need less. And I would 687 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: say a third thing would be bring in nourishing things 688 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 1: for your guts. So a lot of soups and stews 689 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: I think are really needed and are old as far 690 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: as food is concerned, because many people their gut is 691 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: so unhealthy and then they think, I just gonna load 692 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: up on like all these vegetables. I'm gonna have tons 693 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: of like salads, and I like that's like personification. That's 694 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: the the quintessential meal is like a big old salad. 695 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: But a lot of vegetables can be really difficult to digest. 696 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: So if you need to meet your gut where it's at, 697 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: So having lots of soups and stups, which again this 698 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: is nothing new ancestrally, people would have done this for 699 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: a long time and having soups and stews. So we 700 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: need to just give our gut a break, almost predigestive 701 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: for our gut in a way, by cooking it down, 702 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 1: having lots of soups and studies to allow our body 703 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: to digest it more easily and stress because digestion requires 704 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: a lot of energy. So if you give your body 705 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: a bit of a break. So if if people just 706 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: did that, like bring more meditation stillness in their life, 707 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: maybe even during a fast, I think would be exponentially 708 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: more powerful. And third, some soups and steers man, the 709 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: world will be better place with just the three things. 710 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: Wow wow, wow, Yes, thank you for the tools. Dr 711 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: will Cole. So grateful for your time. I know you 712 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: are just exceedingly busy in the way that you are 713 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: serving the world. So I am so grateful for your time, 714 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: So grateful for your three books Keto Terry and the 715 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: Inflammation Spectrum, and your latest Intuitive Fasting which is in 716 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: stores and available now. And you have an incredible podcast, 717 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 1: The Art of Being Well UM that is constantly giving 718 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: so much deep information UM. And so I just I 719 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: hope everyone floods to Dr Will Cole's page and also 720 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: do this podcast, because you know, my show is centered 721 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: around making higher consciousness really applicable to the daily life 722 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: UM and finding a path of grace, of ease and surrender. 723 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: But a huge piece about doing that everyone listening is 724 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: really caring about your body. You have to care about 725 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: how you work inside, how you feel inside. Your internal 726 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: life is dare I say, even more important than your 727 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,919 Speaker 1: external life. So I hope you connect to this deep 728 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: work and Dr Will Cole. I'm so grateful, cannot wait 729 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: to connect again in the future. Thank you so much, 730 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me all right, big, big, big, big, 731 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: big Thank you to Dr Will Cole for blessing us 732 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: with some of his time coming on this show. You 733 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,959 Speaker 1: can connect with him in so many ways I already shared, 734 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: but write this down. If you haven't his books, cop them, 735 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: get them Amazon Prime, lest go keyto Terry and the 736 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: Inflammation Spectrum and the latest bestseller Intuitive Fasting. Really really 737 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: powerful tools for your toolbox, especially if you're exploring ways 738 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: to make those deeper connections with mind, body and soul 739 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: and create for yourself a lifestyle that feels worthy of 740 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: the calling on your life. So you connect with Dr 741 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: Will Cole through his books, through his YouTube videos, through 742 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: his podcast, and definitely through his Instagram. We are so grateful. 743 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: Cannot wait to talk and catch you next week. 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