Speaker 1: So rider, this is going to affect you not at all.
Speaker 2: You are gonna come with us, because we're going to
Speaker 2: insist you come with us. But nothing I'm going to
Speaker 2: say right now is going to make you happy or
Speaker 2: care or in any way, shape or form involved in
Speaker 2: what's going to happen next.
Speaker 3: Sports.
Speaker 2: That being said, Danielle, it's a sports conversation, okay. And
Speaker 2: I just found I am not a huge baseball fan.
Speaker 2: Had we had so much fun going to the Phillies
Speaker 2: game with the way I treated there and throwing out
Speaker 2: the pitch, watching you do that in the Tops Baseball Cards.
Speaker 1: It was so much fun.
Speaker 2: But unless I go to a baseball game, I'm not
Speaker 2: really invested in baseball.
Speaker 1: It's just too slow a game for me.
Speaker 4: However, are you watching the Savannah Bananas.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not watching the Savannah Nanas.
Speaker 2: I am, however, going to start going to the Cardinals games,
Speaker 2: and you're going to start coming with me. Okay, So
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to fly there and we're going to
Speaker 2: have to go there because the Cardinals, in partnership with
Speaker 2: Coca Cola, have launched all you can eat seats.
Speaker 5: What you buy these seats and then it's just freaking
Speaker 5: you're a raffle ticket for everything to eat.
Speaker 2: In the park, everything you want to eat, including, but
Speaker 2: not limited to, apparently ice cold, Coca Cola products, hot dogs,
Speaker 2: chicken tenders, brought worst, nacho chips and cheese fries, popcorn, peanuts,
Speaker 2: kettle chips, ice cream cups.
Speaker 3: I'd like five minutes in.
Speaker 1: Stretches for you. Stretch it out and you're good to go,
Speaker 1: and then you can eat more.
Speaker 2: So you literally pay for the ticket, you watch the games, and.
Speaker 6: Games you could just wait. You could also just like
Speaker 6: eat in the first in second.
Speaker 4: Can go a little early.
Speaker 7: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: They receive and can select up the three items per
Speaker 2: visit from a dedicated concession stand located near the section,
Speaker 2: and they can return as often as.
Speaker 1: They want with no checkout dinner.
Speaker 2: Yes, the only thing better would be watching a game
Speaker 2: and actually in front of that buffet rider was talking
Speaker 2: about it the Queen Mary, but unlimited. So I mean again,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to go to Saint Louis to watch
Speaker 2: a Cardinals game.
Speaker 1: But it's worth it just for.
Speaker 5: That flight is more expensive probably than paying for the food.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do math. I just want to
Speaker 2: get there. And just eat a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to assume the flight will be free
Speaker 2: or cheap.
Speaker 5: We should just can we should think of maybe convincing
Speaker 5: the Dodgers to.
Speaker 2: Do this so that we don't have to fly, or
Speaker 2: the Cardinals to fly us there and do a podcast
Speaker 2: from the.
Speaker 4: That's a good I think.
Speaker 1: So that's why I said, Rider, you're not going to
Speaker 1: care about this at all, but this was big news
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: Assume Danielle would would want to get there as well.
Speaker 5: We just bought the YouTube cable. You know you can
Speaker 5: watch TV. We just because it's the only way for
Speaker 5: us to watch baseball games. And as you know, I
Speaker 5: have a jock son who needs to watch baseball games
Speaker 5: and he's obsessed with the Dodgers and it's very cute,
Speaker 5: and so yeah, we're I'm going to be I'm going
Speaker 5: to be watching lots of games.
Speaker 1: You can't watch. You can't watch baseball on like regular cable,
Speaker 1: Like if you gotcha, I'm getting rid of mine. It's unnecessary.
Speaker 4: It's just necessary.
Speaker 5: And the Dodgers have a special deal, so it's not
Speaker 5: just like the Dodgers you can only watch on YouTube.
Speaker 5: So okay, oh, guys, the TV landscapes.
Speaker 2: Just can I tell you something crazy. I've lived in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles for thirty five years. Yeah, never been to
Speaker 2: a Dodgers game. Oh, I've never had a Dodger dog.
Speaker 4: Wow, we're like six, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Is not that crazy. Never been to a Dodger game.
Speaker 2: Never had a Dodger dog.
Speaker 7: There's Dodgers. Let's do it.
Speaker 4: Let's do a Dodgers podcast.
Speaker 2: To a Lakers game. I've done the Clippers and I've
Speaker 2: done I think I went to see the Mighty Ducks
Speaker 2: and I might have seen an Angels game.
Speaker 7: Maybe.
Speaker 4: I mean, I.
Speaker 5: Gotta take you guys to I gotta take you guys,
Speaker 5: show you guys LA.
Speaker 1: So that's yeah. Never had a Dodger to a Sparks game.
Speaker 1: I would love to go to.
Speaker 4: That's w n B A w n B A and
Speaker 4: it's fun.
Speaker 2: So you have to keep in mind it was my
Speaker 2: mom who taught me how to taught the boys how
Speaker 2: to play basketball, and the Yukon Husky women have been
Speaker 2: religion in my house since I was born.
Speaker 1: So, so w n B A would be a ton
Speaker 1: of fun. That's that's an easy transition for me.
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't mind seeing a Dodger game, but I
Speaker 2: think there's a limit on the food you can get
Speaker 2: at a Dodger game.
Speaker 1: As opposed to the Cardinals. No limit.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you something, it's unlimited food when you've
Speaker 5: got a credit card.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, you just again, then you're paying.
Speaker 7: See we'll bring the middle.
Speaker 1: But you also realize if it's free, there's no calories.
Speaker 5: Rule.
Speaker 4: I forgot that rule. I've been eating so healthy.
Speaker 3: Why dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now you're done, So why you said before
Speaker 2: all you're eating is cottage cheese, which bait.
Speaker 1: Look at that. Wow god, oh wow.
Speaker 3: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: But you said you're eating a ton of cottage cheese.
Speaker 1: So so much.
Speaker 4: Cottage chicken and apples.
Speaker 1: Disgusting.
Speaker 4: It's so good. Gold good culture. Cottage cheese is good.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I basically went on, you know, Will We've
Speaker 5: talked many a time, especially around New Year's Resolutions, about
Speaker 5: how this is the year getting into the shape of
Speaker 5: my life, and knowing I was going on tour like
Speaker 5: dancing through you know, doing Dancing with the Stars, I
Speaker 5: was like, this is a perfect opportunity to just actually
Speaker 5: kickstarted and then knowing I was going on tour for
Speaker 5: a month and was going to be living and breathing
Speaker 5: and eating all the same things that the dancers do
Speaker 5: in front of me. I just decided, you're gonna be
Speaker 5: dancing for two hours a day, eat like them, work
Speaker 5: out like them, and you're king it. So I did,
Speaker 5: and it means I've just been eating very clean. There's
Speaker 5: no joy at all in my life. But I but
Speaker 5: I look Chris.
Speaker 6: That's the thing though, I've noticed it too, right, Like
Speaker 6: it changes the way you feel better and all that.
Speaker 4: Kind I am.
Speaker 5: I'm sleeping really well, I feel like I have energy
Speaker 5: all throughout the day.
Speaker 4: I feel I.
Speaker 5: Mean, just in general, just feel so much lighter on
Speaker 5: my feet. I'm more like willing to do whatever it is.
Speaker 5: Like my kids want to go run around outside and
Speaker 5: do something, I'm much more willing to be like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: let's go do it.
Speaker 4: I just generally feel better.
Speaker 5: And obviously now that I've been home, I've been keeping
Speaker 5: up with working out consistently and and yeah, just eating
Speaker 5: really well.
Speaker 2: But so it's I'm getting starting to get frustrated because
Speaker 2: I have a trainer. I'm working hard with my trainer.
Speaker 2: I'm eating well, I'm drinking almost non alcohol, but I'm
Speaker 2: almost fifty, and it's so much harder to take off, like,
Speaker 2: so much harder to take the weight off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even from the pandemics.
Speaker 2: When I started the pandemic, I lost a ton of
Speaker 2: weight and it came off pretty quick.
Speaker 1: And I'm doing kind of the same thing now. I'm
Speaker 1: doing factor.
Speaker 2: And I'm calorie counting and I'm working out how I'm
Speaker 2: working heavy with weights and still doing the right kind
Speaker 2: of cardio, and it's like it's my body's changing, but
Speaker 2: I'm not really losing any weight. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's it's a it's you can tell. I mean that
Speaker 2: four years or whatever, five years, big difference. It's a
Speaker 2: big difference at being fifty than being forty five. Big difference.
Speaker 1: So maybe cottage cheese will do it for I'm.
Speaker 4: Telling you, I'm telling your cottage cheese and chicken skewer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, could you do me a favorite?
Speaker 2: With every bite of cottage cheese I take, could you
Speaker 2: just come and kick me in the nuts, because it'll
Speaker 2: be exactly the same thing.
Speaker 4: It's not awesome awesome. You could drizzle some hot honey
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's amazing. It's how you've changed the
Speaker 1: whole thing from me.
Speaker 4: Now I love the texture.
Speaker 1: You told yourself that I love it. It is my favorite.
Speaker 4: Welcome to vod meets the World. I'm Daniel Fishal, I'm
Speaker 4: right or strong, and I'm tired all day.
Speaker 1: I'm Wilfordell.
Speaker 5: While we tried to dance on a pool table for
Speaker 5: laughs or awkwardly watch an aspiring girl group perform in
Speaker 5: a diner, there were young actors on every other channel
Speaker 5: doing much cooler things. We've openly admitted we were jealous
Speaker 5: of the popular kids over on Dawson's Creek and Nowhere
Speaker 5: Near is internationally famous as our aggressive basketball opponents from
Speaker 5: Home Improvement. And yet there was another show that somehow
Speaker 5: was able to accomplish both. How big was Beverly Hill's
Speaker 5: nine O two one zero, The young adult drama that
Speaker 5: ran for ten seasons, redefined the traditionally senior citizen genre
Speaker 5: of the soap opera while helping Fox transform from network
Speaker 5: punchline to legitimate broadcasting competitor. At its peak, it drew
Speaker 5: in twenty million viewers per episode, catapulting its young cast
Speaker 5: into a pop culture frenzy that landed them on Saturday
Speaker 5: Night Live, or the cover of Rolling Stone, or even
Speaker 5: making music with their favorite rap group of the time.
Speaker 5: And that's exactly what this week's guest did. He played
Speaker 5: the fan favorite Cavarrici wearing running Man, doing best Friend
Speaker 5: Losing after Dark, running freshman nerd turned heart throb David
Speaker 5: Silver for all ten seasons of the show almost three
Speaker 5: hundred episodes, making the most of a once in a
Speaker 5: generation Hollywood journey that not only spawned its spinoffs like
Speaker 5: melrose Place and Models, Inc. But paved the way for
Speaker 5: the OC, Gossip Girl and Euphoria. So welcome to Pod
Speaker 5: meets World our favorite nineties TV star turned hip hop musician.
Speaker 5: Please no until Joey Lawrence I said that it's Brian
Speaker 5: Austin Green.
Speaker 3: Jerry Lawrence wasn't hip hop though, was he?
Speaker 2: He was more, Well, there's nothing nothing is love can't
Speaker 2: fix for you, baby?
Speaker 1: Wow, you actually know?
Speaker 7: Am I hearing Joey Lawrence?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 7: Okay, welcome to the pod. It's amazing that you knew
Speaker 7: it too. Nothing my love can't fix for you, baby.
Speaker 7: He was in a tank top on the beach playing
Speaker 7: flag football with a bunch of women.
Speaker 1: Yes, and he threw the ball to himself.
Speaker 7: Right, he did as you should when you're trying to
Speaker 7: look awesome. Look, that's exactly what you do. You throw
Speaker 7: the ball to yourself. Yeah, and you and you run
Speaker 7: it in for a touchdown, which everybody else is taking
Speaker 7: a nap, because that is the way to do it.
Speaker 7: I love Joey. I love Joey so great. Oh my god,
Speaker 7: him and his brothers, their their podcast is so fun.
Speaker 7: And I love the fact that they're all so supportive
Speaker 7: of each other and love it.
Speaker 4: They have a great, great family for sure.
Speaker 7: So now for them, and let's get onto yours.
Speaker 4: Exactly. Thank you. I'm glad you said it. Let's start
Speaker 4: in Van Eyes.
Speaker 5: You were a valley kid whose parents drove in that
Speaker 5: one oh one traffic to take you to auditions. How
Speaker 5: did you convince them that little Brian could be an actor?
Speaker 7: Oh boy, that's a tough question. So yeah, I grew
Speaker 7: up in North Hollywood. I was I was riding the
Speaker 7: bus to uh thirty second Street USC Performing Arts School
Speaker 7: for elementary school every day, and one of the kids
Speaker 7: that I rode the bus with to school did commercials
Speaker 7: and I thought, oh, that's really cool because he told me,
Speaker 7: like he made a little money from things that he did,
Speaker 7: and I was like, that's amazing. I want to make
Speaker 7: some money because my like my my family was very
Speaker 7: middle class, but my dad was very He did not
Speaker 7: give money away easily. Like I had to convince him
Speaker 7: how this toy was going to better my future and
Speaker 7: you know, and I was like, well, it's a muppet
Speaker 7: puppet from the Muppet Show, but you know it's I'm
Speaker 7: gonna be a puppeteer one day, and so that's why
Speaker 7: I want this puppet. So I said to them, I
Speaker 7: was like, hey, I want to be an actor. And
Speaker 7: they said, if in six months you still want to
Speaker 7: do this, then we'll get into it and we'll look
Speaker 7: into it. And six months later I still did, so
Speaker 7: I went and met with my friend's agent and started
Speaker 7: doing commercials after about a year. But my parents, my mom,
Speaker 7: God bless her. She drove me everywhere. I mean I
Speaker 7: went to school all over the place, really far from
Speaker 7: the valley, and at that point in the eighties, it
Speaker 7: interviews were I would have three or four commercial auditions
Speaker 7: a day and they would be all over town. So
Speaker 7: she would come pick me up early from school, drive
Speaker 7: me around all these things in traffic and all of
Speaker 7: this stuff. She was an absolute saint. Wow.
Speaker 4: I know my mom too.
Speaker 5: We lived in Orange County and she would have to
Speaker 5: pick me up from school in Orange County, drive me
Speaker 5: all the.
Speaker 7: Way to LA in Orange County. That's a that's a trick.
Speaker 4: It's not close.
Speaker 5: I want to talk to you a little bit about
Speaker 5: little miss Bliss because we had a similar situation on
Speaker 5: Boy Meets World, and this type of heartbreak is common
Speaker 5: for a lot of us. You were cast in the
Speaker 5: pilot and listen to this trio of stars guys, Yes,
Speaker 5: Brian Austin Green, Juliel White and Jonathan Brandis.
Speaker 4: And Hale Mike God and you are the star of
Speaker 4: this thing.
Speaker 7: Well no so I so, Hailey Mills was the star
Speaker 7: of it. So the initial show, good Morning Miss Bliss,
Speaker 7: it was called she was a teacher within this school,
Speaker 7: so it was about her. We just happened to be
Speaker 7: kids in the class. But yeah, so we did. We
Speaker 7: did the pilot for that show, and then they decided, hey,
Speaker 7: we want to we want to pick this up and
Speaker 7: shoot it in Florida. And I was like, nope, I
Speaker 7: live in the valley. Good, I live in the valley.
Speaker 7: I love my life. I really liked skateboarding, and I
Speaker 7: really love still having my feet when I go past
Speaker 7: bodies of water. So you know, so I stayed and
Speaker 7: the show went out there and then it kind of
Speaker 7: reformulated itself and came back as say, by the bell.
Speaker 4: Wow, how big of a deal for you was it then?
Speaker 5: When you booked that role, though, I mean you ultimately
Speaker 5: decided not to do it because they were going to
Speaker 5: send you to Florida, But like when you get a job.
Speaker 7: Like that, that's a big deal. It's a it's a
Speaker 7: big deal. But that was like that was the business that, yeah,
Speaker 7: like you did. You did commercials. You did as many
Speaker 7: national commercials as you could because they paid well. And
Speaker 7: then you booked a pilot and you would go shoot
Speaker 7: a pilot. And there were only three networks at that time,
Speaker 7: and so they were each doing like fifteen pilots a year,
Speaker 7: and you had pilot season. You had no member and
Speaker 7: like February right top of the year, and so you
Speaker 7: would try and book a pilot and then probably ninety
Speaker 7: eight percent of the pilots never got picked up. So
Speaker 7: you'd book a pilot, you'd shoot it, and you go cool,
Speaker 7: a nice meeting everybody, and then you would go guest
Speaker 7: on other shows and you know, do do as much
Speaker 7: stuff as you could. So we were I remember we were.
Speaker 7: We were all excited about it because it was fun.
Speaker 7: It was a bunch of kids, and it was live audience,
Speaker 7: which I had never really done before that. But yeah,
Speaker 7: we did. We did the pilot and then it was
Speaker 7: like that was sort of it. Like I never I
Speaker 7: didn't understand that pilots get picked up and then they
Speaker 7: become shows that are on consistently. I have no idea
Speaker 7: you were just do we know a bunch of pilots.
Speaker 7: I didn't know. It's It was the same thing when
Speaker 7: I first started doing commercials and my friend told me
Speaker 7: that he did commercials. I was like, wait, regular people
Speaker 7: can do this. Like I thought you had to be
Speaker 7: some sort of magic, you know, live in some alternate
Speaker 7: universe on television. I had no idea that kids just
Speaker 7: got into it. An auditioned, and all of a sudden
Speaker 7: you were on TV.
Speaker 4: It was crazy, so funny.
Speaker 7: I did a pilot with Joey Lawrence. That's how we
Speaker 7: ended up becoming friends. We did a pilot for They
Speaker 7: did a series of from Adventures in babysitting, and so
Speaker 7: we were both the leads on that pilot.
Speaker 1: Was Keith Coogan involved in that? No, I played Keith Coogan,
Speaker 1: you played played character.
Speaker 7: I've actually been at like some of these conventions and
Speaker 7: I was at one and I'd never met Keith before,
Speaker 7: and he came up and he.
Speaker 1: Was like, hey, dude, you played me in the pilot.
Speaker 7: How did you know that it was a pilot? Nobody
Speaker 7: picked it up, nobody ever saw it. Coogan knows all.
Speaker 7: He knows pretty much everything there is to know.
Speaker 5: Well, I do think it's pretty InCred that you, Juliel,
Speaker 5: and Jonathan all went on to become massive stars in
Speaker 5: the nineties, and then you also appeared on Saved by
Speaker 5: the Bell the college years.
Speaker 7: I did. Yeah, so I was. I was dating Tiffany
Speaker 7: at that point, okay, and yeah, they had moved from
Speaker 7: the kind of, you know, morning ish sitcom thing to
Speaker 7: that and it was kind of a prime time sitcom
Speaker 7: that they were doing. And yeah, I just made a
Speaker 7: quick I walked in with a turkey. I think it
Speaker 7: was all right, anybody anybody want turkey? It felt it
Speaker 7: was a really good line reading. I don't know if
Speaker 7: you saw it or not. But I won quite a
Speaker 7: few Razzies for that one.
Speaker 5: There is one more very early, Brian Austin Green Job.
Speaker 5: I want to ask you about, which is Small Wonder.
Speaker 5: You did two episodes alongside.
Speaker 8: Vicky the Robot. What do you remember from Wait, do
Speaker 8: you guys know that show? It's a small under Yes, she.
Speaker 7: Had like a little gluten panel on her back and
Speaker 7: they opened it up and it was the best way. Yes,
Speaker 7: but I remember I was so that was probably one
Speaker 7: of the jobs I was the most excited about when
Speaker 7: I was young, because I watched the show. All of
Speaker 7: a sudden I was on. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: it's Vicky the Robot and it's the whole thing, and
Speaker 7: it was really cool to be doing. You know, it's
Speaker 7: every once in a while you have those moments where
Speaker 7: you're on a set. You guys know you're on a
Speaker 7: set and you go, I cannot believe I'm on this
Speaker 7: set right here. Yeah, I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was too. Yeah, it was such a good show.
Speaker 7: It was just such a good show.
Speaker 1: Tiffany Brissette is a nurse now in Colorado. You played Vicky.
Speaker 1: You played all the shows like where is that? Where's
Speaker 1: the cast of silver spoons. That's what happens in my
Speaker 1: in my house at three a m.
Speaker 7: Stuff like that. You should put the coffee down.
Speaker 2: Great wonder was important in my childhood. That was up
Speaker 2: there with all the all those silver spring different strokes.
Speaker 4: And My Two Dads, Oh yeah, of course Two Dads was.
Speaker 1: Was created by Boy creator Michael Jacobs.
Speaker 7: So I was on one episode of My Two Dads
Speaker 7: and and it's the only time I was ever fired
Speaker 7: I did. There's not much of a story to it. Honestly,
Speaker 7: that's the best part that like, that's I should have
Speaker 7: saved that for the end to have some big like
Speaker 7: cliffhanger moment, But I'm terrible at telling stories.
Speaker 6: It was probably Michael Jacobs who fired you. So do
Speaker 6: you remember what that was? It after a run through or.
Speaker 7: Yes, And we had been rehearsing and then we did
Speaker 7: a run through and I had a scene sitting at
Speaker 7: a table with uh Stacy Keenan was on that show,
Speaker 7: and there was somebody else and I was really new
Speaker 7: to sitcoms, and I just didn't completely understand the timing
Speaker 7: of it.
Speaker 4: And I went to yourself, you're gonna, We're gonna.
Speaker 7: We're gonna have to uh recast I was, but again
Speaker 7: I was so young. I was like, okay, so what
Speaker 7: is do I I still get paid for this day, right,
Speaker 7: That's you know, That's all I really cared about at
Speaker 7: that point.
Speaker 4: I if there's one gift I can give you, I
Speaker 4: would just like for you to know it wasn't you.
Speaker 7: No, it was. It felt like me when when the
Speaker 7: firing came down.
Speaker 4: So I'm not saying it didn't feel like you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you were made to you were definitely told it was you.
Speaker 6: But I I do just want you to know Michael
Speaker 6: Jacobs fired probably ten kids within the first five episodes
Speaker 6: of Boy Meets.
Speaker 5: World, so that's a and threatened to fire me after
Speaker 5: my first day, and I was already replacing someone who
Speaker 5: had been fired.
Speaker 6: And you have to eat like and and he would
Speaker 6: it's a line reading like he would give line readings
Speaker 6: and if you didn't say it, he wanted it said.
Speaker 7: I remember that the very specific And he came out
Speaker 7: and he was we were sitting in a restaurant doing
Speaker 7: a scene, sitting at a table, and he kept giving
Speaker 7: me these line readings of exactly what he wanted. I
Speaker 7: was like, I couldn't do it. Exactly the way he
Speaker 7: was and that was it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, like I said, just it's a lift from us.
Speaker 7: It's good to know now at fifty two.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you know, you never know that you
Speaker 5: said it's the only time you were ever fired, and
Speaker 5: then when you told.
Speaker 7: A lifetime I can't wait to tell my therapist that.
Speaker 8: Let her know.
Speaker 1: Brian, you did small wonder. You don't have to apologize it.
Speaker 7: It's true, right you did the pilot for Adventures in
Speaker 7: Babysitting everybody else.
Speaker 5: So in order to join SAG you add Austin to
Speaker 5: your name. I want to know, have you ever met
Speaker 5: the other Brian Green?
Speaker 2: No, I have not.
Speaker 7: I wished his demise when I was younger because I
Speaker 7: didn't know what all that entailed. I realized that is
Speaker 7: a terrible thing to wish upon anybody. But yeah, it
Speaker 7: was when when I just so, my mom had a
Speaker 7: whole name planned for me when she was pregnant and
Speaker 7: I was I had really broad shoulders as a as
Speaker 7: a baby, so she had a real hard time in labor.
Speaker 7: And my dad, who smoked a lot of pot at
Speaker 7: this point in life. While my mom was in the
Speaker 7: middle of labor, he came forward, and he was like,
Speaker 7: can we name him Brian? I'm alm was like, name
Speaker 7: him whatever the fuck you want, just get us get
Speaker 7: out of me. And that was literally the only name
Speaker 7: he came up with. He came up with no middle name,
Speaker 7: no anything, that was just Brian Green. And then all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, sag is going out. There's another Brian
Speaker 7: Green in the union. So you have to come up
Speaker 7: with a middle name, and Brian Green is not a
Speaker 7: very easy name to come up with a middle name
Speaker 7: for where the whole thing flows very well. We almost
Speaker 7: named me Brian Peter Green, after my mom's dad, but
Speaker 7: then my initial would have been Peace. It was Brian p. Green.
Speaker 7: We were like, good start that does that'll that'll make
Speaker 7: him break a career. So that so we went through
Speaker 7: a bunch of names and we ended up going through
Speaker 7: the map and Austin, Yeah, yeah, you could.
Speaker 4: Have gone with like Willie broad Shoulders.
Speaker 2: I couldn't have.
Speaker 7: I don't know how well my co would have done, but.
Speaker 1: That's r get this kid out of me Green. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Brian name and whatever the you want.
Speaker 7: Skills are incredible, This podcast is done. You should just
Speaker 7: be writing books of what we're gonna do. Yeah, right,
Speaker 7: I'm already on the third one. What are you talking about?
Speaker 7: Does this still happen?
Speaker 3: Are there still actors having to have three names? Because
Speaker 3: it was such an but I don't hear about it
Speaker 3: that much anymore, Like, no.
Speaker 7: It's absolutely it's you can't be you can't be in
Speaker 7: the I don't think you can be in the union
Speaker 7: with the same name as somebody else. I think you
Speaker 7: have to have some sort of thing that differentiates so
Speaker 7: they can keep track of checks when they come in,
Speaker 7: they can monitor they you know, do all the stuff
Speaker 7: that they that they as a union do. So strange.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you joined SAG and then shortly thereafter you
Speaker 5: start booking a lot of different shows. You book a
Speaker 5: big recurring role on Knat's Landing and you become a
Speaker 5: bit of like a child actor VET At this point,
Speaker 5: did it.
Speaker 4: Feel like something big was coming? Like did you always have.
Speaker 7: That viewing it was in my or scrubs? You know,
Speaker 7: it was no, So no, because the uh, the business
Speaker 7: was really small when I was young. There were probably
Speaker 7: thirty kids total, so we would all see each other
Speaker 7: at all the auditions and stuff. So it was myself
Speaker 7: and Seth Green and DiCaprio and Toby maguire and like
Speaker 7: we had this small group and we all knew each other,
Speaker 7: so there was no competition between anybody. It was sort
Speaker 7: of like, oh, you're looking for a little redhead kid.
Speaker 7: Oh well, then Seth is your guy. Like I don't
Speaker 7: even know why I'm in here, and I was like,
Speaker 7: go get him, Seth. Like we were all we were
Speaker 7: all rooting for each other. But the the business it
Speaker 7: set there wasn't. Honestly, I don't. I really don't think
Speaker 7: it was until nine o two one oh that there
Speaker 7: were shows that were really rooted around young young kids, teenagers,
Speaker 7: high schoolers, you know, middle schoolers. So at that point
Speaker 7: kids were getting parts in adult shows. All the shows
Speaker 7: that we were that I was doing was NOTTS landing
Speaker 7: adult shows. I would come through with like a every
Speaker 7: once in a while just to show that, like, you know,
Speaker 7: the character had a kid, right, That's all I was
Speaker 7: there for. And then all of a sudden that shifted,
Speaker 7: and then it became kids were actually the leads of things,
Speaker 7: and things were really like aggressively shifting, you know, because
Speaker 7: Boy Meets World, you guys were really like on the
Speaker 7: cusp the ground. You were groundbreaking as far as what
Speaker 7: it was you were doing. You know, the business has
Speaker 7: changed so much, so I had no I had no
Speaker 7: sense back then of that this was going to be
Speaker 7: my career. Like I grew up in music, right, so
Speaker 7: I thought, oh, Okay, I'm making some good money doing this,
Speaker 7: but I'm going to be a drummer, you know, in
Speaker 7: a band and that and that's it. There was nobody
Speaker 7: else in my family that had ever been acting before.
Speaker 7: I had nobody to sort of learn from or bounce
Speaker 7: ideas off of, or anybody that I had seen succeed
Speaker 7: in it. I didn't know anybody in it. I grew
Speaker 7: up in North Hollywood and it was I went to
Speaker 7: music academies and these performing art schools and it was
Speaker 7: like fame. So we were all like playing instruments and
Speaker 7: doing all this stuff. And I had no idea that
Speaker 7: the like student films and the commercials that I did
Speaker 7: as a kid would take over my life and become
Speaker 7: my career. I never had any idea. How did you
Speaker 7: think about acting itself?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: Did you think of it was like, oh, just a job,
Speaker 3: had to show up. It was like kind of like
Speaker 3: my model. Ye think I was like a craft that
Speaker 3: you had to work on.
Speaker 7: I didn't understand the craft side of it like I had.
Speaker 7: For me, my passion had always been music, right, my
Speaker 7: dad's a.
Speaker 1: Drummer, because you said you had nobody in your family
Speaker 1: that were My dad.
Speaker 7: Is a drummer. He was touring with Glenn Campbell when
Speaker 7: I was born. He was doing like Rhyanstone, Cowboy and
Speaker 7: all that, and then he stopped touring when I was
Speaker 7: about two and a half because he wanted to be
Speaker 7: home more. So he started doing all studio stuff. He
Speaker 7: played on like Frank Sinatra's albums and Doobie Brothers and
Speaker 7: all sorts of really cool stuff. And I went to
Speaker 7: these amazing performing art schools for music. I had to
Speaker 7: like audition to get in. I remember in jazz band.
Speaker 7: I went to Hamilton High for high school to begin,
Speaker 7: and then I was failing everything because I was working
Speaker 7: so much, and I ended up graduating from North Hollywood High.
Speaker 7: But one of the guys that I was in jazz
Speaker 7: band with, his name is Abel Borel Junior. He plays
Speaker 7: drums for Paul McCartney. Like it's I grew up with.
Speaker 7: I grew surrounded by all these people that were really,
Speaker 7: really good and what it is they were doing. So
Speaker 7: when I started doing commercials, I hadn't ever met anybody
Speaker 7: that was doing it successfully where I was like, oh
Speaker 7: my god, it can lead to this. I had no
Speaker 7: idea what the end goal of it was, so to me,
Speaker 7: that was kind of a fun thing. You sort of
Speaker 7: show up and you eat crackers or YouTube, gut whatever
Speaker 7: it is that you know, you play volleyball in a
Speaker 7: tank to like whatever it is they're asking of you,
Speaker 7: and then you go home. And then I would go
Speaker 7: home and play music and skateboard and do the stuff
Speaker 7: that I was really passionate about doing and loved doing
Speaker 7: at the time. Wow, that's so funny.
Speaker 4: It was similar for me too.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I also didn't understand it as a craft, nor did
Speaker 5: I understand it as a business. It was just like
Speaker 5: you know, and my family didn't really quite understand it either.
Speaker 5: So I think that you're you're not alone there.
Speaker 7: Yeah. My family was like my mom was my business manager,
Speaker 7: my dad was my manager, and everybody was like learning
Speaker 7: as they were, right, and no one.
Speaker 4: Had an experience or education in it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So along comes the Beverly Hills nine O two
Speaker 5: one Oho audition and it's an Aaron Spelling show.
Speaker 4: Was that intimidating.
Speaker 7: No, I had no idea who he was, Okay, not
Speaker 7: a clue. I literally had zero. Everyone was like, oh
Speaker 7: my god, it's Aaron Spelling. I was like, I don't
Speaker 7: know who that is. And then they were like, oh,
Speaker 7: he did love Boat, and like they started naming all
Speaker 7: the shows and I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 7: know those shows, but I didn't know who played what
Speaker 7: role in pre production or any like. I didn't know
Speaker 7: that TV producers were as big as they were at
Speaker 7: that point they were putting these projects. I had no idea. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I was like, oh boy, lucky him. He jumped on
Speaker 7: board this love Boat thing. I didn't know. I didn't
Speaker 7: know that he was creating these things and putting these
Speaker 7: teams together and making these happen. I remember all of
Speaker 7: the auditions that I had were in his office, which
Speaker 7: was really incredible, Like it was massive, and he had
Speaker 7: this huge, like twenty five foot long couch and this
Speaker 7: crazy with like pinball machines. But he was this incredibly
Speaker 7: kind guy. So it was I'd been doing this at
Speaker 7: this point. I was sixteen when I went into audition.
Speaker 7: I started acting when I was nine, so like I was.
Speaker 7: I walked in the room and I was like, I've
Speaker 7: been in a million of these rooms, Like this doesn't
Speaker 7: intimidate me at all. It's a really cool office. You
Speaker 7: seem like a really nice guy, like this is this
Speaker 7: is cool. And then the fact that the script was
Speaker 7: about like like high junior high, high school kids. I
Speaker 7: was like, oh, this is pretty cool, Like I can
Speaker 7: I can do this. You know. I knew Doug Emerson
Speaker 7: at the time. We had been acting together, so I
Speaker 7: read with him when we were in there, and we
Speaker 7: had chemistry from knowing each other. So it just sort
Speaker 7: of it all happened really fast, and it didn't. There
Speaker 7: wasn't really much magic to it at that point. You know,
Speaker 7: the auditioning process.
Speaker 1: It's not this.
Speaker 7: Magical thing where you're like, oh my god, I booked
Speaker 7: this pilot. I feel like this is the one, Like
Speaker 7: you sort of you book a pilot and you go
Speaker 7: I've read better. Yeah you know, I'll do it.
Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, yeah, I was f Yi.
Speaker 5: I was famously not allowed to watch nine O two
Speaker 5: one oh as a kid, so I eventually had.
Speaker 4: To do a lot of catch up.
Speaker 7: So good parenting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my parents were like absolutely not my parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. The whole family would get together and
Speaker 1: watching nine O two and oh.
Speaker 7: So there it's crazy crazy.
Speaker 5: In the first season, you played a bit of an
Speaker 5: outcast on the show, not yet like really in the
Speaker 5: friend group, sort of peering in from the outside. Was
Speaker 5: that also what was going on when the cameras were
Speaker 5: off or were you guys all close right off the bat?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 7: We were pretty close right off the bat. I mean,
Speaker 7: I so I had known Shannon for years from when
Speaker 7: she was doing Little House on the Prairie and Our House,
Speaker 7: that show with Chad Allen and Wiff Grimley. I had
Speaker 7: funny enough, I did. So I knew Doug. We had
Speaker 7: known each other for years from commercials and everything Luke
Speaker 7: and I had done. We did a Doctor Pepper a
Speaker 7: commercial literally like four weeks before I booked the pilot
Speaker 7: and started doing that, and then he came on and
Speaker 7: we were like, holy, like a drive in theater doing
Speaker 7: this Doctor Pepper commercial.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 7: So we got along really well, and it was it
Speaker 7: was fun because we were all young and so it
Speaker 7: was kind of cool and we were on these locations
Speaker 7: and it was really fun and we got to kind
Speaker 7: of be silly and Dopey together. David Silver was really
Speaker 7: was really fun when the show started, and the character
Speaker 7: was that way because it was I wasn't necessarily in
Speaker 7: school like a nerd like that, but I was really small.
Speaker 7: I had tons of energy, so I was like hyper
Speaker 7: and obnoxious to people that I was around, and I
Speaker 7: didn't really have a specific friend group. I sort of
Speaker 7: bounced around from group to group to group, like I
Speaker 7: hung out with skaters, I hung out with, you know,
Speaker 7: kids that were in band class with me. Like I
Speaker 7: was sort of all over the place. But David Silver
Speaker 7: was really fun because we it became this like goal
Speaker 7: of ours to come up with the most ridiculous things
Speaker 7: that we could. So we would we would find really
Speaker 7: crazy swaths of material and they would make pants and
Speaker 7: like all like we had all of these crazy we
Speaker 7: would put buttons all over things, and it was really
Speaker 7: fun because it was completely different from the world that
Speaker 7: I was living in at that point. So then as
Speaker 7: the show went on and it started as it does,
Speaker 7: the you know the two start combining, yep, and it
Speaker 7: then it became harder. It became harder for me. I
Speaker 7: don't know how it was for you guys. How old
Speaker 7: were you when you started doing the show twelve you
Speaker 7: were twelve.
Speaker 1: I was sixteen.
Speaker 2: I was in the middle so I didn't and to
Speaker 2: hang out with them and too young to hang out
Speaker 2: with the adults.
Speaker 7: How long did you do the show? For?
Speaker 2: Years?
Speaker 7: So you know, like that is that's that period in
Speaker 7: your life where you're like really sort of figuring out
Speaker 7: who you are. You're insecure about all sorts of things.
Speaker 7: But then you're going through all of that in front
Speaker 7: of everybody, and it is and as soon as your
Speaker 7: actual life starts crossing with that, then you start becoming
Speaker 7: insecure with who you are at home compared to this
Speaker 7: is writers.
Speaker 4: This is exactly writer's life. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the writers start borrowing from your life.
Speaker 7: To you know, they have to. You're writing for kids,
Speaker 7: do better to research than you in your life outside
Speaker 7: of it. Oh my god, he's really into music, he's
Speaker 7: really into ooh. Let's start incorporating those things. And then
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, you're you know, you're bringing your
Speaker 7: own things from home to work, and as soon as
Speaker 7: somebody says they don't like it, you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: but I made that at home, Like this is now,
Speaker 7: how do I separate this, you start feeling like, oh,
Speaker 7: people just don't like me, and it's and you know,
Speaker 7: as an adult mind, I can grasp the concept of
Speaker 7: people watching and how it works and that they don't
Speaker 7: realize all of these things are coming from my home.
Speaker 7: But when you're young and you're already feeling scrutinized just
Speaker 7: because that's part of growing up, then that the life
Speaker 7: that we lived at a young age, it's a hard
Speaker 7: thing to do. Yes, it's a real hard thing to do,
Speaker 7: and I give a lot of credit to people that
Speaker 7: made it out of it.
Speaker 2: You know. Well, there's also an interesting aspect to it
Speaker 2: because you're you're also expected not to complain about it
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form, because you're lucky that
Speaker 2: you're getting a chance to even be doing this work.
Speaker 2: So the idea that it's difficult in any way, shape
Speaker 2: or form, it's like other people your age, especially like,
Speaker 2: how dare you think that something bad could come from this?
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, I'm still growing up and living
Speaker 2: my life.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's all relative. Like I you know, I would
Speaker 7: hear that all the time, and I of course didn't
Speaker 7: understand that completely because I was living in it. So
Speaker 7: for people that had that view. I'm in a completely
Speaker 7: different place than than you are, So you can speak
Speaker 7: from your side of it. I'm speaking from my side
Speaker 7: of it, and they're two completely different things and both
Speaker 7: can exist at the same time. Like people, people get
Speaker 7: caught up in this concept of emotion is mutually exclusive,
Speaker 7: like you either if you are jealous of somebody, then
Speaker 7: you're just jealous. It's like, well, no, I can love
Speaker 7: somebody and be happy for them and then be jealous
Speaker 7: of them at the same time. Right, that's okay, that's
Speaker 7: all right to have both of those things going. But
Speaker 7: people don't completely get that, and they feel guilty when
Speaker 7: they feel like, oh my god, this is my best friend,
Speaker 7: but I'm jealous because they're getting this opportunity and I
Speaker 7: so wish that I had it. So then they start
Speaker 7: stuffing that and it creates it creates all of these
Speaker 7: all these problems. Believe me, it was my therapist that
Speaker 7: point that point of this stuff out. Yeah this isn't like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, I'm a genius, and so I came
Speaker 7: up with this myself, like my fa you know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, we were We've all been in therapy.
Speaker 7: It's just a part of it. We'll kind to it.
Speaker 7: We're all we're all child actors. Yeah, exactly, if we're
Speaker 7: surviving now we've gone through therapy.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's accurate.
Speaker 5: I think your big moment on the show as it's
Speaker 5: building its audience in season two, ends up becoming part
Speaker 5: of the nine O two one zero folklore Forever, and
Speaker 5: it's the episode that is called the Next forty Years
Speaker 5: and your best friend Scott accidentally shoots himself at his
Speaker 5: sixteenth birthday party.
Speaker 4: It was a very intense episode.
Speaker 2: Growing up watching nine to two and zero with my family,
Speaker 2: I remember the announcement that a character was going to die.
Speaker 1: Really, oh yeah, this was a thing.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, of course.
Speaker 5: It was very intense and nothing like that had ever
Speaker 5: been done for kids or teens before. Do you remember
Speaker 5: finding out that that episode was going to happen? Did
Speaker 5: they talk to you about it ahead of time?
Speaker 8: What was that like?
Speaker 7: Yeah? They that was That was a really tough point.
Speaker 7: It was absolutely for me, absolutely bittersweet. Like I they
Speaker 7: started putting David and Donna together and they realized like, oh,
Speaker 7: this is kind of a fun duo and this thing
Speaker 7: and so maybe we have David du summer school. So
Speaker 7: he can then be in the same grade as all
Speaker 7: these kids. But then they they were like, okay, well
Speaker 7: then these two kids, these two guys, we can't have
Speaker 7: both of them, Like it doesn't make any sense. So
Speaker 7: they came up with this idea of Doug unfortunately having
Speaker 7: to do that, and I remember getting the script and
Speaker 7: being shocked, being happy again and two emotions at the
Speaker 7: same time. Happy it wasn't me, but then really really
Speaker 7: sad that it was him because the show was really
Speaker 7: blowing up at that point and we all knew it.
Speaker 7: So to then have to say to him, like, okay,
Speaker 7: thanks for being here in the beginning, and you know,
Speaker 7: we're going to take it from here really really hard.
Speaker 7: Like we had done all the cast photos and the things,
Speaker 7: and he was in all the stuff, and then all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, he's not there. I remember his he
Speaker 7: and his mom had rewritten that scene where he doesn't
Speaker 7: get shot, like you know, it was it was like
Speaker 7: sort of a joke thing, but I think that there
Speaker 7: was a part of it that was kind.
Speaker 2: Of, oh, yeah, no, thanks for playing drums peep, but
Speaker 2: we just met someone named Ringo.
Speaker 7: Exactly yeah, exactly perfect. But it was no.
Speaker 1: I mean, my friends were there were conversations.
Speaker 2: People were talking because they set it up as someone's
Speaker 2: gonna dieferent pictures on the screen, so people were talking
Speaker 2: about like.
Speaker 7: Who do you They were saying one of one of
Speaker 7: the characters you love is gonna die or like it
Speaker 7: was something like that, yes, and god, who.
Speaker 2: Who do you think it's gonna be? And why is
Speaker 2: it going to happen? And but and so yeah, there was.
Speaker 2: It was a whole thing basically, did.
Speaker 7: You put your money on anyone going We knew.
Speaker 1: We knew who was gonna I mean, I think most
Speaker 1: people knew who was gonna go Me it was like no,
Speaker 1: but you kind of you hate to say it was.
Speaker 1: The way they built it up was great.
Speaker 2: But there was one character that if you had to
Speaker 2: lift quote unquote lift them out of the script, there
Speaker 2: was one that lifted out because you did.
Speaker 7: Right. Nobody likes the megabird, but no, we saw it.
Speaker 2: They they were clearly aging you up. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was clear that they were aging you up. They were
Speaker 2: putting you with the Donna character.
Speaker 7: And they were and they started incorporating these things where
Speaker 7: David and Scott were like not seeing an eye on things,
Speaker 7: and they were kind of arguing, and Scott came back
Speaker 7: from summer break with like the cowboy hat on and
Speaker 7: all this stuff, and like they really really went for
Speaker 7: like okay, these two are completely different, Like they really
Speaker 7: leaned into it. I remember because I saw him in
Speaker 7: the cowboy hat when he came back the stets and
Speaker 7: I was like, oh my god, that is a big hat. Yeah,
Speaker 7: like they it was like it wasn't hard enough to
Speaker 7: read the script to have to read the script with
Speaker 7: that big stetson on your head. Oh my god, not
Speaker 7: only are they getting rid of me, but look at
Speaker 7: this ridiculous wardrobe.
Speaker 1: Look at this the moogue and I.
Speaker 2: Remember the big monologue and then my friend thinks he's
Speaker 2: a cowboy and shoots himself in the stomach.
Speaker 1: Like I remember, all this was.
Speaker 2: Is this for for a generation of TV watchers? This
Speaker 2: was an important television moment?
Speaker 7: It really was. It was Yeah, yeah, crazy. Looking back
Speaker 7: on it now, it's you realize like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: that's we started a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2: This was Dudley getting molested in the back of the
Speaker 2: bike shop. On different strokes, like okay, there's a there's
Speaker 2: a bunch of different television moments for a kid that
Speaker 2: stick out in the refrigerator, the refrigerator.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is another one of those
Speaker 1: moments that sticks with you. It really does.
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5: Well at this point now nine o two one, omnia
Speaker 5: is in full effect. When did you first know this
Speaker 5: was going to be much more than just one of
Speaker 5: those other pilots or shows you had done?
Speaker 7: We did? We did grad night at Disneyland. Oh yeah,
Speaker 7: and just to completely date myself and when this was
Speaker 7: another bad creation, was there so cool there? And we
Speaker 7: were we were doing an appearance on the Tomorrowland Terrace,
Speaker 7: that stage that comes up out of the ground, and
Speaker 7: so we were down in sort of the bowels of
Speaker 7: Disney and the tunnels, the underground crazy system where Mickey
Speaker 7: walks around with no costume, head on and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: It's really if you're young, it's shocking. Yes, I was. Really.
Speaker 7: It was a lot for me to take years of
Speaker 7: therapy to get over that.
Speaker 4: You were a teenager.
Speaker 7: But still, you know, Mickey held a special place in
Speaker 7: my heart, and so I was. I was a bit devastating,
Speaker 7: just a bit. And so Wilson Phillips were up above
Speaker 7: and they were performing a song and the crowd was
Speaker 7: going crazy, as I assumed they would. I was like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, Wilson Phillips are out there. This is crazy.
Speaker 7: And so they were done, and then the crowd start
Speaker 7: screaming again. So I was like, oh my god, they
Speaker 7: must be doing like an encore, something going, you know,
Speaker 7: something going on. So as a cast, we had this
Speaker 7: really stupid idea of like, hey, when the stage comes
Speaker 7: down and we're supposed to get on, we'll get on,
Speaker 7: but we'll all hide. So when the stage comes up,
Speaker 7: there's nobody on the stage. It looks like they've said,
Speaker 7: you know, this empty stage back up. So we did
Speaker 7: that and it came up and everybody was a bit
Speaker 7: kind of quiet, and and then we all popped out
Speaker 7: and the crowd went bananas. And that was the first
Speaker 7: time we realized, like, oh my god, all of these
Speaker 7: kids are watching our show and loving it. And it
Speaker 7: was a sea of kids.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 7: Leading up to that, it had been stuff here and there,
Speaker 7: like you know, a car full of girls with their
Speaker 7: parents at the gas station, Oh my god, are you
Speaker 7: on that show?
Speaker 3: And you know and all that.
Speaker 7: But that was the first real like oh my beatle
Speaker 7: feeling moment. I mean, we came from New Kids on
Speaker 7: the block were on the cover of every magazine, So
Speaker 7: all of a sudden be having these moments where it's like, God,
Speaker 7: I've seen this before, yeah, and now we are in
Speaker 7: the shoes of these people that are like running to
Speaker 7: chain link fences and running down lines to jump into
Speaker 7: a van for the door to close, to get out
Speaker 7: of the way. It was. It was really surreal for me.
Speaker 7: Like I remember Ian and I took a trip to
Speaker 7: Spain at one point to promote the show, and there
Speaker 7: were fifteen thousand people in the airport in Spain. Oh,
Speaker 7: they had to shut down the airport. Shut down the
Speaker 7: airport like that, had no flights. We we ruined people's days,
Speaker 7: you know. I'm sure all the parents were like, yes,
Speaker 7: but it was bananas. And they they sent lookalikes out
Speaker 7: one door to sort of move the crowd so we
Speaker 7: could get out. We were on the freeway and kids
Speaker 7: were running across the freeway. We got to the hotel,
Speaker 7: went to sleep because it was such a long flight.
Speaker 7: Got up the next morning and I opened the window
Speaker 7: to my room and there were thousands of people down
Speaker 7: on the street. And it felt like when you'd see
Speaker 7: the videos of Michael Jackson or Madonna or whatever, you
Speaker 7: know out of the country and that on that pandemonium
Speaker 7: on the street, and all of a sudden I was
Speaker 7: in that. It was it was like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: what is happening?
Speaker 2: Well, I remember it made the news when Luke Perry
Speaker 2: went to a mall and he was there for like
Speaker 2: thirty seconds and they had to escort him out because
Speaker 2: they thought people were gonna die, Like literally thought people.
Speaker 7: Were They would do crazy things like sneak us into
Speaker 7: like laundry, the rolling laundry baskets and stuff and like
Speaker 7: put clothes up because we were doing these mall appearances.
Speaker 7: But these stores are in the middle of the mall, right,
Speaker 7: so you have to go through the mall to get
Speaker 7: to Sam Hoodie or you know forever, like these store pennies.
Speaker 7: Like it was I forget what stores they were at
Speaker 7: that point, but nobody thought about that. They would fill
Speaker 7: them all with thousands of people and then it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 7: how are we going to get yeah it out for
Speaker 7: these appearances. They didn't think that through, so they would
Speaker 7: have to get us through these crowds. And at that
Speaker 7: point it was all young girls, so it was just
Speaker 7: streaming and pandemonium, and no, we ever did this.
Speaker 3: We never did what were mall appearances?
Speaker 4: All appearances?
Speaker 1: You just don't I did, took you and.
Speaker 3: You sign on it and people, are you getting paid?
Speaker 3: Is it like a convention?
Speaker 7: Okay, it was like a convention, but you're paid by
Speaker 7: the store, and the store would end up getting thousands
Speaker 7: of people running through it just sign stuff.
Speaker 3: I guess we did.
Speaker 7: We did that one right, But they would they wouldn't
Speaker 7: pay for autographs. They would just pay us a flat
Speaker 7: fee to go do these. We did a bunch of
Speaker 7: car shows, there were things like that, and I remember
Speaker 7: like it those It was the same thing. They would
Speaker 7: just pay you a flat fee and then you'd go
Speaker 7: and you just signed as many autographs as you could
Speaker 7: over the course of a day or two days, and
Speaker 7: you'd go home. It wasn't like conventions are now.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I remember distinctly.
Speaker 2: It was nineteen ninety four and my roommate at the time,
Speaker 2: uh he and I decided to go to Europe. So
Speaker 2: we're on a train and we're going where We're sitting
Speaker 2: in a train car and two German girls who are
Speaker 2: teenagers sit across from and of course what you do
Speaker 2: in Europe. They start drinking beers and we start talking
Speaker 2: and I said, so you know what you watch television?
Speaker 1: They both perked up. Of course we do. I said,
Speaker 1: what's what's your favorite show? And they both went nine
Speaker 1: O two one oh.
Speaker 2: And they were behind in the seasons coming out because
Speaker 2: in Germany they were getting him a little late.
Speaker 1: And as a joke, I said, oh, so is Dylan
Speaker 1: still alive in the seasons that you're doing and the
Speaker 1: dick burst into tears.
Speaker 7: Of course you crushed the car and I was like,
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I'm sorry crush.
Speaker 1: The girls burst into tears. This is this is again
Speaker 1: Germany in the nineties, and they were freaking out and just.
Speaker 5: Arm just like you wish I on Brian Green will
Speaker 5: carries this karma with him forever.
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable though how important it was. I mean
Speaker 1: the girl literally burst into tears, thinking wonderful favorite characters.
Speaker 7: Crazy, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah, what thing to do? It
Speaker 7: was great? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Do you have any idea One more storyline I want
Speaker 5: to ask you about. Do you have any idea where
Speaker 5: exchange and egg to find a rave? Do you have
Speaker 5: any idea where that may have have come from. Do
Speaker 5: you remember that storyline.
Speaker 7: I think that was a thing at that time time.
Speaker 7: I think when raves were going on, they would see
Speaker 7: they would make them really secretive. So it was like
Speaker 7: you had to go to this liquor store at this time,
Speaker 7: and nobody knew the location of any of these things.
Speaker 7: So I think that's what made the raves at that
Speaker 7: point really cool, was that if you didn't know and
Speaker 7: they didn't somebody didn't send you to this liquor store
Speaker 7: to get this information, then you wouldn't be there and
Speaker 7: you would be able to find it. Yeah, and these
Speaker 7: parties were they were massive, these raves, and they went
Speaker 7: they were like these after hours things. Uh, it was
Speaker 7: way before the drug The drugs were really involved in
Speaker 7: all of them, and it was just this kind of fun,
Speaker 7: cool late night thing for kids to do. So the
Speaker 7: writers I think stole that idea from actual.
Speaker 4: Culture at the time.
Speaker 2: As the show became more popular and you were growing
Speaker 2: up as a cast, were you allowed any kind of
Speaker 2: creative input to what was happening in the show or.
Speaker 7: Tons tons great? Yeah, yeah, they were Wow, that's so great.
Speaker 7: They were not. They they completely understood the concept of
Speaker 7: we will be writing these based on real things that
Speaker 7: you guys are doing. They were I mean we were
Speaker 7: doing thirty four episodes a season at the height of
Speaker 7: that show. Wosh, we did over three We did no,
Speaker 7: just under three hundred episodes in ten It was it
Speaker 7: was really we worked constantly. We we shot ten out
Speaker 7: of twelve months a year, which is by the cast
Speaker 7: of our show if you watch. We didn't really have
Speaker 7: a chance to go do films because we didn't have
Speaker 7: enough time. So we did a lot of these movies
Speaker 7: of the weeks at that point because they shoot them
Speaker 7: in eighteen days, right, so it was you kind of
Speaker 7: prepare and because there were again only a few networks,
Speaker 7: these movie of the weeks were massive at that point.
Speaker 7: That was like the payday for actors. It was like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, I'm going to go to Canada and
Speaker 7: you know, nobody was in Canada, like there were there
Speaker 7: were like five actors there. Like it really movie of
Speaker 7: the weeks I think, or what started, uh, the Canadian
Speaker 7: film industry. I don't know that as a fact, but
Speaker 7: I'm going to speak about.
Speaker 4: It like say it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, man.
Speaker 5: Another aspect of your character bleeding into real life with
Speaker 5: who you were as a person involves your rap album
Speaker 5: One Stop Carnival.
Speaker 4: I have heard many stories out of the ballistics young
Speaker 4: Hollywood era, and I feel like this is part of it.
Speaker 4: Can you tell our listeners what ballistics was?
Speaker 7: So wow ballistics. So I was really good friends with
Speaker 7: David Faustino, who played Bud Bundy on Mary with Children,
Speaker 7: and we were friends with Nick Adler, who is Lou
Speaker 7: Adler's son. Lou Adler was the manager of the Mamas
Speaker 7: and the Papas. He owns the Whiskey, he owns the
Speaker 7: Rainbow and on the Rocks he no, he owns the rocks.
Speaker 7: He and on the rocks in the Rainbow room next
Speaker 7: to it, like he wise, that really built Sunset. So
Speaker 7: they decided like, hey, we're gonna throw this hip hop
Speaker 7: club at the Whiskey, which was just unheard of, Like
Speaker 7: the Whiskey was a rock place, there was there never
Speaker 7: been hip hop in there before. So they started They
Speaker 7: were like spray painting tarps to hang up inside and
Speaker 7: they like it was it was a true legitimate hip
Speaker 7: hop spot, but it was it was hip hop for
Speaker 7: young Hollywood people that were in town. But it was
Speaker 7: really the start of something because you know, hip hop
Speaker 7: was really growing at that point, and it had grown
Speaker 7: from just being this art form that breakdancing grew out
Speaker 7: of to really becoming this true music art form in
Speaker 7: itself and coming from music myself. I was a big
Speaker 7: lover of jazz, so it was an easy crossover for
Speaker 7: me because it was like, oh my god, so much
Speaker 7: jazz was being sampled and redone in hip hop. That's
Speaker 7: kind of a lot of it grew out of that.
Speaker 7: So ballistics kind of went along along with this natural
Speaker 7: love of hip hop for us anyway, and then it
Speaker 7: just continued to grow. I was really in the hip
Speaker 7: hop scene that was in the nineties, that was and
Speaker 7: it still is. That's my heart. My love is hip hop,
Speaker 7: is that culture, is all the music that came out
Speaker 7: of the out of that decade. That was my decade.
Speaker 7: So I started I was promoting clubs myself, like early nineties,
Speaker 7: I was promoting one at Bar one that that was
Speaker 7: really big. Then I started doing a hip hop club
Speaker 7: at the corner of Santa Monica and Vine up in
Speaker 7: the tower. We had the entire penthouse floor. It was
Speaker 7: called green Light, and it was at the point when
Speaker 7: hip hop was massive and we had literally anybody across
Speaker 7: the country that was in hip hop. So Jermaine Dupre
Speaker 7: whenever he was in town, was up there, Puffy was
Speaker 7: up there, Guru would be up there and he'd be
Speaker 7: like freestyling for hours. Buster Rhymes came and like performed Wuha.
Speaker 7: When it first came out, like we had literally anybody
Speaker 7: that was in town, and it was this really incredible
Speaker 7: spot where the elevator doors opened up and we had
Speaker 7: two sides to it, so I did all. I had
Speaker 7: a DJ playing all just classic jazz on one side
Speaker 7: and then the other side was all hip hop. So
Speaker 7: ye on the jazz side, you heard the stuff that
Speaker 7: was then sampled and was playing there was really cool
Speaker 7: and it was and to me, I just wanted to
Speaker 7: build a place where it was all the music that
Speaker 7: I loved, but I could like get out any door
Speaker 7: if I ever had to get out, Like it was
Speaker 7: just safe. It was a safe place for me. I
Speaker 7: was doing a lot of music at home at the
Speaker 7: same time, and a friend of mine who was a
Speaker 7: piano player and a songwriter, his name was Ralph. He
Speaker 7: he was everything was on cassette at this point, and
Speaker 7: Babyface was looking for new producers to have within his
Speaker 7: in his camp. So my buddy Ralph sent his tape
Speaker 7: over there of a bunch of stuff that he had done,
Speaker 7: and a couple of the songs that were on this
Speaker 7: tape were things that I had done just sort of
Speaker 7: for fun. I had a group. And so Babyface said
Speaker 7: to him, Oh, I really liked this song, and my
Speaker 7: buddy Ralph was like, oh, I didn't do that. My
Speaker 7: friend Brian did that one. Babyface was like, oh, well,
Speaker 7: this is a don't think this is lost on me too.
Speaker 7: Like Babyface was saying he was the king of the
Speaker 7: world at this point, and he was like, oh, I
Speaker 7: really liked this song, and Ralph was like, oh, I
Speaker 7: didn't do that one either. My buddy Brian did. Cut
Speaker 7: to Ralph says to me, hey, Babyface wants to have
Speaker 7: dinner with you with his wife. Like no way. I
Speaker 7: was before punk. So I was like, I can't like this.
Speaker 7: Isn't you know this. There's gotta be some validity to this.
Speaker 7: So I went, I had dinner and it was sure enough.
Speaker 7: It was Babyface and his wife sitting across from me
Speaker 7: at the at the dinner table, and we were talking
Speaker 7: about music, and he said, you know, I'm starting a
Speaker 7: new label. He already had the face going at that point.
Speaker 7: He was like, I can't have two labels, so this
Speaker 7: new one, my wife is gonna run and that, but
Speaker 7: I will kind of be underneath it all sort of
Speaker 7: you know, pulling, pulling the strings and you know, puppeteering
Speaker 7: the whole thing, and we want you to be on
Speaker 7: this label. I was like, are you serious, Like i'd know,
Speaker 7: I had no intention of ever doing an album. I
Speaker 7: was like, I loved hip hop, I loved making beats.
Speaker 7: I came from music cut to I'm like signing this
Speaker 7: deal with Babyface and his wife. And you remember the
Speaker 7: artist John B. Remember him. He was when I was
Speaker 7: looking for beats. He was one of the kids who
Speaker 7: submitted a tape of beats and I remember his demo
Speaker 7: tape was phenomenal, Like he was this art, he was
Speaker 7: this like really, he's an incredibly talented R and B singer, songwriter, unbelievable.
Speaker 7: It was one of the best. Forget that it was
Speaker 7: a demo tape. It was honestly one of the best
Speaker 7: albums I had heard in years. They ended up signing him,
Speaker 7: So I did this album with uh it was I
Speaker 7: ended up doing it with someone who is now one
Speaker 7: of my closest friends in the world, Trey from the
Speaker 7: Far Side, who I was, and The Far Side. I
Speaker 7: was a huge fan of them at that point, and
Speaker 7: so we ended up doing this album and the label
Speaker 7: didn't really know what to do with it because I
Speaker 7: was the white guy from nine o two one zero,
Speaker 7: so I think they were expecting more of a There's
Speaker 7: nothing I Love can do for you baby, like I
Speaker 7: would be on a beach playing, you know, football, throwing
Speaker 7: a football to myself and a tank top and like
Speaker 7: that was my audience. And the album I did was
Speaker 7: not that at all. It was the music that I
Speaker 7: loved at the time. It was just as as true
Speaker 7: to hip hop as I could be. And hip hop
Speaker 7: was very, very fickle at that point, so the album
Speaker 7: wasn't received well like it was. Really people were really
Speaker 7: understandably hard on it. I mean, the the the business
Speaker 7: came Vanilla Ice was was big before me, so that
Speaker 7: the culture itself was very weary of anybody white coming
Speaker 7: in and having anything to say or do. And it
Speaker 7: wasn't until really eminem and I mean you had some
Speaker 7: people like ever Last, you had Third Base, you had
Speaker 7: Beastie Boys, you had these people before that were really
Speaker 7: true to it, but they weren't commercial, they weren't pombling.
Speaker 7: They were very all about the culture itself. So the
Speaker 7: fact that I was on such a commercially successful show,
Speaker 7: the cards were stacked against me from day one. And
Speaker 7: I remember going and promoting it and writers of like
Speaker 7: The Source and you know, all these hip hop magazines
Speaker 7: and stuff that we white labeled the album when we
Speaker 7: put it out, so nobody knew it was me, so
Speaker 7: we would get their honest review of it. But then
Speaker 7: I would sit down with them to do an interview
Speaker 7: and they'd be like, oh, you got me, okay, And
Speaker 7: I was like, no, no, no, I don't. We're not
Speaker 7: trying to get you at all, Like we're just we
Speaker 7: just wanted to give it a fair shot, you know.
Speaker 7: But people were really really hard on it. Now it's
Speaker 7: like widely respected, and I wish I had that respect
Speaker 7: in ninety five, but whatever, you know, it's good to
Speaker 7: have it now. It makes me feel good.
Speaker 5: Can I put you on the spot a little bit
Speaker 5: and see if you'll do a little nineties TV star
Speaker 5: rappers ranking between you Scott Cohn, David Faustino.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, wait uh uh, just within my industry
Speaker 7: or just hip hop itself. No, no, just within the industry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Korn nemic like.
Speaker 7: You know, oh yeah he was so he uh so,
Speaker 7: cor and I are really good friends. Kirky is the
Speaker 7: name that he went by him. He was good, he
Speaker 7: was We were both good friends with this guy Justin
Speaker 7: Warfield who he and Adam went and did she once Revenge.
Speaker 7: They they're they're the two of that group.
Speaker 8: Yea.
Speaker 7: But yeah, there was a there was a small group
Speaker 7: of us who loved hip hop. I think Korn was
Speaker 7: the best, uh lyricist. He's He's always been a really
Speaker 7: good writer. Yeah he's still to this day. Like he
Speaker 7: writes uh these sort of film things and these TV
Speaker 7: show ida is and stuff that he has, and he's
Speaker 7: really really good at it. I think of any of them,
Speaker 7: I was by far the best beat maker. Not to
Speaker 7: toot my own horn, but I mean, you see, like
Speaker 7: I've got a full studio of stuff, studio this is.
Speaker 7: I would like to brag and be like, oh, this
Speaker 7: is you know, the state of the art podcast studio
Speaker 7: that I've built, but it's not. I've made no money
Speaker 7: in podcasting I've made I've made no money in music,
Speaker 7: but I still to Yeah, this is my thing. Dave
Speaker 7: God Dave like really uh broke the He opened a
Speaker 7: lot of doors for for people within TV to get
Speaker 7: it into.
Speaker 4: He was like the business mind.
Speaker 1: He really was.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Uh and he's still to this day is like he's
Speaker 7: he's out djaying and doing a lot of stuff now
Speaker 7: and he is still people within that be real. He
Speaker 7: just he has all of these friends within the industry
Speaker 7: that it's cool.
Speaker 4: It's really will make will make no mention of Scott
Speaker 4: con No, Scott.
Speaker 7: Was, Scott was doing his thing. I just he's I mean,
Speaker 7: now he's an actor. Like nobody even knows that he
Speaker 7: was rapping because nothing I don't think anything commercially ever
Speaker 7: came out for Scott con Right. He used to come
Speaker 7: to my club though, it's unbelievable, like the club that
Speaker 7: I did at Bar One. The people that would come
Speaker 7: that I'd see outside at the door, Scotty Kahn with
Speaker 7: like he had he always had gloves on, like it
Speaker 7: was this whole thing. Uh, black eyed peas like well
Speaker 7: I am that they were all they were calling to
Speaker 7: the Hey man, you're doing your club tonight, and they oh, yeah, sure,
Speaker 7: come on through. And you know, all these all of
Speaker 7: these people within LA then got into that were really
Speaker 7: into hip hop, and the club scene opened the doors
Speaker 7: for a lot of these people.
Speaker 5: So a lot of stars came and went from nine
Speaker 5: oh two one Oho and you, yeah, you really went
Speaker 5: the distance.
Speaker 4: You stayed till the end. Did you ever think about leaving?
Speaker 7: No? Because the money got better and better, right, Like
Speaker 7: why why am I going to jump ship? Now? Like
Speaker 7: I get to, you know, renegotiate my contract, Like I'm
Speaker 7: just gonna stick it out here. I'm gonna I always
Speaker 7: have a sense of I think because I had been
Speaker 7: acting for so long of oh my god, I'm making
Speaker 7: good money. Now like let's stick this thing out and
Speaker 7: make as much as I can and you know, pay
Speaker 7: off my house and like really set myself up and
Speaker 7: then go be an artist and whatever after this is done.
Speaker 7: So at ten years, they still wanted to keep going.
Speaker 7: And I was really done at ten. Yeah, at ten,
Speaker 7: I was like, no, I think I'm I think I'm good,
Speaker 7: Like that's it's a ten year run. Like I've given
Speaker 7: you guys from seventeen to twenty seven, Like I I'm.
Speaker 4: Good, yeah, really great.
Speaker 5: Well, as you know, I am a big Sharna for
Speaker 5: fourth judge on Dancing with the Stars supporter.
Speaker 7: Can I just say beforehand, you were really great on
Speaker 7: the show. You were really fun, Like Sharna and I
Speaker 7: were rooting for you through it all because it's not
Speaker 7: it's not an easy thing to do, you know, being there,
Speaker 7: Like people you assume that, oh, I dance all the time, like, oh,
Speaker 7: it would just be fun, and it's like, no, it is.
Speaker 7: Dancing with the Stars is the true technique of dancing.
Speaker 7: And every time you get into a new dance style,
Speaker 7: the technique changes, and the frame changes, and the posture changes,
Speaker 7: and the heel or the totally changes. All of these
Speaker 7: things happen, and you have this really short week to
Speaker 7: master this thing and then be judged for it. When
Speaker 7: you're live and your you're picked apart for like all
Speaker 7: the little mistakes that you make, so you're rooting for
Speaker 7: anybody that is doing it, and you were, Danielle. You
Speaker 7: were so fun to watch and we really we really
Speaker 7: rooted for you. But your commitment to it and you're
Speaker 7: like true passion for doing it, and it was was
Speaker 7: not lost. I don't think on anybody that watched it.
Speaker 7: So so good for you for being there. As long
Speaker 7: as you were, and for committing to it and doing
Speaker 7: it because it's not it's not an easy thing at all.
Speaker 4: Thank you. It was the time of my entire life.
Speaker 4: I loved it so much.
Speaker 5: But I mean, that was so sweet. I was not
Speaker 5: asking this question to get any sort of praise myself.
Speaker 7: I praise I did.
Speaker 8: I did.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna accept it.
Speaker 5: I'm going to say thank you, but I'm asking wholeheartedly
Speaker 5: as a fan.
Speaker 4: How cool is your Wife's awesome? She's amazing.
Speaker 5: She's an incredible teacher, she's a fantastic dancer, she's got
Speaker 5: a great personality.
Speaker 7: I just I told you it was an amazing human being.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is?
Speaker 7: Which is? I think then what really translates to all
Speaker 7: the other stuff like fourth chair? You know, she she
Speaker 7: has a passion for constructive criticism, for like really understanding
Speaker 7: the process of what someone is going through and really
Speaker 7: trying to in the most positive way possible get explain
Speaker 7: to people what the judges might be looking for or
Speaker 7: what she saw or and and she it's funny we
Speaker 7: would uh because we would always come by on tape
Speaker 7: nights to kind of see everybody and encourage everyone, and
Speaker 7: it the feedback that she got from so many people saying,
Speaker 7: Oh no, we would watch Fourth Chair on Tuesday morning
Speaker 7: and we would absolutely take to heart the things that
Speaker 7: you would say because they would improve of what it
Speaker 7: is we were doing. And she she was always about that.
Speaker 7: It's like she wants to she wants to help people
Speaker 7: with what it is she's saying. She doesn't she doesn't
Speaker 7: ever want to just on someone for the purpose of
Speaker 7: being on someone, Like she really wants to say things
Speaker 7: that she hopes our light bulb moments where people go hmm, interesting. Yeah. Never,
Speaker 7: I never thought about it that way. And she grew
Speaker 7: up dancing. She's been dancing her entire life and she
Speaker 7: loves it. And it wasn't until I did the show
Speaker 7: that I really understood where where the passion and the
Speaker 7: technique comes from and how much work goes into it.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, My last question for you. We've seen you
Speaker 5: at conventions. You similarly to us, you are always paired
Speaker 5: with Tory Spelling. Your characters are forever linked for sure.
Speaker 5: What has it been like seeing the long lasting effects
Speaker 5: of nine O two one Ozero and more specifically d
Speaker 5: VID Silver, Like what kind of an impact that has
Speaker 5: had on multiple generations incredibly humbling.
Speaker 7: I mean, you guys know you're doing these conventions. Also
Speaker 7: is it's so incredibly humbling when people come up to
Speaker 7: the table and you can only give them fifteen twenty
Speaker 7: seconds because you have to kind of keep it moving.
Speaker 7: But if you give them your full attention during that
Speaker 7: twenty seconds, how much of a change it can make
Speaker 7: in their life and how much it means to them.
Speaker 7: I always tell people like, it's not that hard to
Speaker 7: be kind, to be nice to people. It's not that hard,
Speaker 7: And so it blows my mind when people aren't, when
Speaker 7: they just want to shuffle people through and sign stuff
Speaker 7: and don't I don't understand that because that, honestly, to me,
Speaker 7: in my mind, it takes more work than just being
Speaker 7: being kind to people. Conventions are great because it's given
Speaker 7: me a chance to travel around and really see the
Speaker 7: impact of it and hear these stories from people that
Speaker 7: are like, oh, I remember when I was in high
Speaker 7: school and I was going through this, or I was
Speaker 7: going through this really tough situation, or you know, I
Speaker 7: watched your relationship and so I got a lot of
Speaker 7: a lot of really great pointers and things from it,
Speaker 7: and I use those in my own It's unbelievable because
Speaker 7: to us, we were just kids making a show. You know.
Speaker 7: The writers would hand us the script and we'd go
Speaker 7: do the script, and then you finish it and you
Speaker 7: move on. You never I never understood the impact of
Speaker 7: what it was we were doing when we were doing it.
Speaker 7: So to hear it now, you realize back then it
Speaker 7: was just a job. Now I'm not getting paid the
Speaker 7: same way for that job. I'm It's a different role
Speaker 7: that I've stepped into, and I really enjoy it. I
Speaker 7: really love it, like I really I as much as
Speaker 7: it's bad for business when you get to your table
Speaker 7: and you're like, yeah, there's not many people here, I
Speaker 7: really enjoy the fact that I can spend time with
Speaker 7: people and I do and we connect on I know
Speaker 7: nothing about what it's like to grow up in Kentucky,
Speaker 7: or what's around you, or what school was like for you,
Speaker 7: or God, let's let's like chop it up a little bit,
Speaker 7: let's get some really cool conversations going. Because it makes
Speaker 7: me a better person. I come back home. It makes
Speaker 7: me a better father, It makes me a better listener,
Speaker 7: it makes it makes me more compassionate. It just makes
Speaker 7: me a kinder human being because I am really listening
Speaker 7: to people when I'm talking to them, and the stories
Speaker 7: aren't that different. You know, our childhoods were different, and
Speaker 7: some of the things we experienced and missed out on
Speaker 7: were different, but they're all relative. We're all human beings
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, all of us. We
Speaker 7: all have these human experiences. So you know, like you said,
Speaker 7: people look at us and go, how dare you complain
Speaker 7: that it was hard because look at all you had?
Speaker 7: But for us, completely different situation. Yeah, my high school
Speaker 7: experience was in front of thirty million people every single
Speaker 7: week I'm doing a show, so yeah, it was pretty
Speaker 7: It was pretty tough for me as well. Money, different
Speaker 7: situation life, sure, house and the cars and the stuff.
Speaker 7: But it's all relative, man, YEA, all relative. So we're
Speaker 7: all human beings. Like I think, the more we can
Speaker 7: all connect and just listen to each other and connect
Speaker 7: with each other, the better equipped it makes us to
Speaker 7: live within this melting pot of a world, which now
Speaker 7: with the Internet, is more of a melting pot than ever.
Speaker 7: So we should all continue to learn about each other's
Speaker 7: cultures and backgrounds and countries and cities and states and
Speaker 7: all of that, and like really connect on all of
Speaker 7: the stories because we're not as different as we thought
Speaker 7: we were when we were younger. It's all right here.
Speaker 7: It's easy to get I can pick up my phone
Speaker 7: and I can learn anything about anyone.
Speaker 4: You know exactly.
Speaker 7: I can ask chat GPT before I do an episode
Speaker 7: of my podcast, literally get everything to ask and everything
Speaker 7: to know.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you so much for being here with us.
Speaker 5: It was a pleasure talking with you. Really great to
Speaker 5: get to know you better and hear more of your stories.
Speaker 7: Look for seeing you guys again on the you know,
Speaker 7: it's super fun. These conventions are super fun because I
Speaker 7: get to run into people that either I haven't seen
Speaker 7: in years yep, or meet people that I knew because
Speaker 7: we were all in the same industry and I didn't
Speaker 7: know personally.
Speaker 1: So it's really I really always say it's our high
Speaker 1: school reunion.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it totally is. Yeah, it's these ridiculous weekends away
Speaker 7: where it's like, God, I don't have to you know,
Speaker 7: because I have four young kids at home. It's like
Speaker 7: I don't. All of that kind of goes away and
Speaker 7: we get to have fun dinners and share these fun
Speaker 7: stories exactly and talk about how ridiculous our lives were
Speaker 7: and the fact that we're all that we're all here
Speaker 7: together and we're like, thank God, happy and healthy and
Speaker 7: doing this and connecting with people.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll see you with them all.
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Speaker 4: Thanks for being here.
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Speaker 7: Bye bye.
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