WEBVTT - Brian Austin Green Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>So rider, this is going to affect you not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>You are gonna come with us, because we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>insist you come with us. But nothing I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>say right now is going to make you happy or

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<v Speaker 2>care or in any way, shape or form involved in

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen next.

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<v Speaker 3>Sports.

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<v Speaker 2>That being said, Danielle, it's a sports conversation, okay. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just found I am not a huge baseball fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Had we had so much fun going to the Phillies

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<v Speaker 2>game with the way I treated there and throwing out

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<v Speaker 2>the pitch, watching you do that in the Tops Baseball Cards.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>But unless I go to a baseball game, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>really invested in baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just too slow a game for me.

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<v Speaker 4>However, are you watching the Savannah Bananas.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not watching the Savannah Nanas.

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<v Speaker 2>I am, however, going to start going to the Cardinals games,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to start coming with me. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have to fly there and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to go there because the Cardinals, in partnership with

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<v Speaker 2>Coca Cola, have launched all you can eat seats.

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<v Speaker 5>What you buy these seats and then it's just freaking

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<v Speaker 5>you're a raffle ticket for everything to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>In the park, everything you want to eat, including, but

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<v Speaker 2>not limited to, apparently ice cold, Coca Cola products, hot dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>chicken tenders, brought worst, nacho chips and cheese fries, popcorn, peanuts,

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<v Speaker 2>kettle chips, ice cream cups.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like five minutes in.

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<v Speaker 1>Stretches for you. Stretch it out and you're good to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can eat more.

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<v Speaker 2>So you literally pay for the ticket, you watch the games, and.

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<v Speaker 6>Games you could just wait. You could also just like

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<v Speaker 6>eat in the first in second.

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<v Speaker 4>Can go a little early.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>They receive and can select up the three items per

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<v Speaker 2>visit from a dedicated concession stand located near the section,

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<v Speaker 2>and they can return as often as.

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<v Speaker 1>They want with no checkout dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the only thing better would be watching a game

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<v Speaker 2>and actually in front of that buffet rider was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it the Queen Mary, but unlimited. So I mean again,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have to go to Saint Louis to watch

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<v Speaker 2>a Cardinals game.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's worth it just for.

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<v Speaker 5>That flight is more expensive probably than paying for the food.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do math. I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>get there. And just eat a whole bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to assume the flight will be free

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<v Speaker 2>or cheap.

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<v Speaker 5>We should just can we should think of maybe convincing

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<v Speaker 5>the Dodgers to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do this so that we don't have to fly, or

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<v Speaker 2>the Cardinals to fly us there and do a podcast

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<v Speaker 2>from the.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good I think.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I said, Rider, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>care about this at all, but this was big news

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<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Assume Danielle would would want to get there as well.

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<v Speaker 5>We just bought the YouTube cable. You know you can

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<v Speaker 5>watch TV. We just because it's the only way for

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<v Speaker 5>us to watch baseball games. And as you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>have a jock son who needs to watch baseball games

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<v Speaker 5>and he's obsessed with the Dodgers and it's very cute,

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<v Speaker 5>and so yeah, we're I'm going to be I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to be watching lots of games.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't watch. You can't watch baseball on like regular cable,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you gotcha, I'm getting rid of mine. It's unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just necessary.

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<v Speaker 5>And the Dodgers have a special deal, so it's not

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<v Speaker 5>just like the Dodgers you can only watch on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 5>So okay, oh, guys, the TV landscapes.

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<v Speaker 2>Just can I tell you something crazy. I've lived in

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles for thirty five years. Yeah, never been to

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<v Speaker 2>a Dodgers game. Oh, I've never had a Dodger dog.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, we're like six, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not that crazy. Never been to a Dodger game.

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<v Speaker 2>Never had a Dodger dog.

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<v Speaker 7>There's Dodgers. Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do a Dodgers podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>To a Lakers game. I've done the Clippers and I've

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<v Speaker 2>done I think I went to see the Mighty Ducks

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<v Speaker 2>and I might have seen an Angels game.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Gotta take you guys to I gotta take you guys,

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<v Speaker 5>show you guys LA.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's yeah. Never had a Dodger to a Sparks game.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to go to.

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<v Speaker 4>That's w n B A w n B A and

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<v Speaker 4>it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to keep in mind it was my

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<v Speaker 2>mom who taught me how to taught the boys how

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<v Speaker 2>to play basketball, and the Yukon Husky women have been

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<v Speaker 2>religion in my house since I was born.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so w n B A would be a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. That's that's an easy transition for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't mind seeing a Dodger game, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a limit on the food you can get

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<v Speaker 2>at a Dodger game.

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<v Speaker 1>As opposed to the Cardinals. No limit.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me tell you something, it's unlimited food when you've

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<v Speaker 5>got a credit card.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, you just again, then you're paying.

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<v Speaker 7>See we'll bring the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>But you also realize if it's free, there's no calories.

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<v Speaker 5>Rule.

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<v Speaker 4>I forgot that rule. I've been eating so healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>Why dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but now you're done, So why you said before

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<v Speaker 2>all you're eating is cottage cheese, which bait.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that. Wow god, oh wow.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But you said you're eating a ton of cottage cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>So so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Cottage chicken and apples.

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<v Speaker 1>Disgusting.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so good. Gold good culture. Cottage cheese is good.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I basically went on, you know, Will We've

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<v Speaker 5>talked many a time, especially around New Year's Resolutions, about

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<v Speaker 5>how this is the year getting into the shape of

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<v Speaker 5>my life, and knowing I was going on tour like

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<v Speaker 5>dancing through you know, doing Dancing with the Stars, I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, this is a perfect opportunity to just actually

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<v Speaker 5>kickstarted and then knowing I was going on tour for

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<v Speaker 5>a month and was going to be living and breathing

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<v Speaker 5>and eating all the same things that the dancers do

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<v Speaker 5>in front of me. I just decided, you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>dancing for two hours a day, eat like them, work

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<v Speaker 5>out like them, and you're king it. So I did,

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<v Speaker 5>and it means I've just been eating very clean. There's

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<v Speaker 5>no joy at all in my life. But I but

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<v Speaker 5>I look Chris.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the thing though, I've noticed it too, right, Like

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<v Speaker 6>it changes the way you feel better and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind I am.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sleeping really well, I feel like I have energy

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<v Speaker 5>all throughout the day.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel I.

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<v Speaker 5>Mean, just in general, just feel so much lighter on

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<v Speaker 5>my feet. I'm more like willing to do whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Like my kids want to go run around outside and

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<v Speaker 5>do something, I'm much more willing to be like, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>let's go do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just generally feel better.

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<v Speaker 5>And obviously now that I've been home, I've been keeping

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<v Speaker 5>up with working out consistently and and yeah, just eating

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<v Speaker 5>really well.

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<v Speaker 2>But so it's I'm getting starting to get frustrated because

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<v Speaker 2>I have a trainer. I'm working hard with my trainer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm eating well, I'm drinking almost non alcohol, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>almost fifty, and it's so much harder to take off, like,

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<v Speaker 2>so much harder to take the weight off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, even from the pandemics.

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<v Speaker 2>When I started the pandemic, I lost a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>weight and it came off pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm doing kind of the same thing now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing factor.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm calorie counting and I'm working out how I'm

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<v Speaker 2>working heavy with weights and still doing the right kind

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<v Speaker 2>of cardio, and it's like it's my body's changing, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really losing any weight. So it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's it's a it's you can tell. I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>four years or whatever, five years, big difference. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>big difference at being fifty than being forty five. Big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe cottage cheese will do it for I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Telling you, I'm telling your cottage cheese and chicken skewer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, could you do me a favorite?

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<v Speaker 2>With every bite of cottage cheese I take, could you

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<v Speaker 2>just come and kick me in the nuts, because it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be exactly the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not awesome awesome. You could drizzle some hot honey

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<v Speaker 4>on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's amazing. It's how you've changed the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing from me.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I love the texture.

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<v Speaker 1>You told yourself that I love it. It is my favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to vod meets the World. I'm Daniel Fishal, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>right or strong, and I'm tired all day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Wilfordell.

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<v Speaker 5>While we tried to dance on a pool table for

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<v Speaker 5>laughs or awkwardly watch an aspiring girl group perform in

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<v Speaker 5>a diner, there were young actors on every other channel

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<v Speaker 5>doing much cooler things. We've openly admitted we were jealous

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<v Speaker 5>of the popular kids over on Dawson's Creek and Nowhere

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<v Speaker 5>Near is internationally famous as our aggressive basketball opponents from

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<v Speaker 5>Home Improvement. And yet there was another show that somehow

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<v Speaker 5>was able to accomplish both. How big was Beverly Hill's

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<v Speaker 5>nine O two one zero, The young adult drama that

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<v Speaker 5>ran for ten seasons, redefined the traditionally senior citizen genre

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<v Speaker 5>of the soap opera while helping Fox transform from network

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<v Speaker 5>punchline to legitimate broadcasting competitor. At its peak, it drew

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty million viewers per episode, catapulting its young cast

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<v Speaker 5>into a pop culture frenzy that landed them on Saturday

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<v Speaker 5>Night Live, or the cover of Rolling Stone, or even

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<v Speaker 5>making music with their favorite rap group of the time.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's exactly what this week's guest did. He played

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<v Speaker 5>the fan favorite Cavarrici wearing running Man, doing best Friend

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<v Speaker 5>Losing after Dark, running freshman nerd turned heart throb David

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<v Speaker 5>Silver for all ten seasons of the show almost three

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<v Speaker 5>hundred episodes, making the most of a once in a

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<v Speaker 5>generation Hollywood journey that not only spawned its spinoffs like

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<v Speaker 5>melrose Place and Models, Inc. But paved the way for

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<v Speaker 5>the OC, Gossip Girl and Euphoria. So welcome to Pod

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<v Speaker 5>meets World our favorite nineties TV star turned hip hop musician.

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<v Speaker 5>Please no until Joey Lawrence I said that it's Brian

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<v Speaker 5>Austin Green.

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry Lawrence wasn't hip hop though, was he?

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<v Speaker 2>He was more, Well, there's nothing nothing is love can't

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<v Speaker 2>fix for you, baby?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, you actually know?

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<v Speaker 7>Am I hearing Joey Lawrence?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, welcome to the pod. It's amazing that you knew

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<v Speaker 7>it too. Nothing my love can't fix for you, baby.

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<v Speaker 7>He was in a tank top on the beach playing

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<v Speaker 7>flag football with a bunch of women.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and he threw the ball to himself.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, he did as you should when you're trying to

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<v Speaker 7>look awesome. Look, that's exactly what you do. You throw

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<v Speaker 7>the ball to yourself. Yeah, and you and you run

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<v Speaker 7>it in for a touchdown, which everybody else is taking

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<v Speaker 7>a nap, because that is the way to do it.

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<v Speaker 7>I love Joey. I love Joey so great. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 7>him and his brothers, their their podcast is so fun.

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<v Speaker 7>And I love the fact that they're all so supportive

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<v Speaker 7>of each other and love it.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a great, great family for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>So now for them, and let's get onto yours.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly. Thank you. I'm glad you said it. Let's start

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<v Speaker 4>in Van Eyes.

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<v Speaker 5>You were a valley kid whose parents drove in that

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<v Speaker 5>one oh one traffic to take you to auditions. How

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<v Speaker 5>did you convince them that little Brian could be an actor?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh boy, that's a tough question. So yeah, I grew

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<v Speaker 7>up in North Hollywood. I was I was riding the

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<v Speaker 7>bus to uh thirty second Street USC Performing Arts School

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<v Speaker 7>for elementary school every day, and one of the kids

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<v Speaker 7>that I rode the bus with to school did commercials

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<v Speaker 7>and I thought, oh, that's really cool because he told me,

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<v Speaker 7>like he made a little money from things that he did,

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<v Speaker 7>and I was like, that's amazing. I want to make

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<v Speaker 7>some money because my like my my family was very

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<v Speaker 7>middle class, but my dad was very He did not

0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.080
<v Speaker 7>give money away easily. Like I had to convince him

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<v Speaker 7>how this toy was going to better my future and

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<v Speaker 7>you know, and I was like, well, it's a muppet

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<v Speaker 7>puppet from the Muppet Show, but you know it's I'm

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<v Speaker 7>gonna be a puppeteer one day, and so that's why

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<v Speaker 7>I want this puppet. So I said to them, I

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<v Speaker 7>was like, hey, I want to be an actor. And

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<v Speaker 7>they said, if in six months you still want to

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<v Speaker 7>do this, then we'll get into it and we'll look

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<v Speaker 7>into it. And six months later I still did, so

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<v Speaker 7>I went and met with my friend's agent and started

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<v Speaker 7>doing commercials after about a year. But my parents, my mom,

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<v Speaker 7>God bless her. She drove me everywhere. I mean I

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<v Speaker 7>went to school all over the place, really far from

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<v Speaker 7>the valley, and at that point in the eighties, it

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<v Speaker 7>interviews were I would have three or four commercial auditions

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<v Speaker 7>a day and they would be all over town. So

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<v Speaker 7>she would come pick me up early from school, drive

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<v Speaker 7>me around all these things in traffic and all of

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<v Speaker 7>this stuff. She was an absolute saint. Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>I know my mom too.

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<v Speaker 5>We lived in Orange County and she would have to

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<v Speaker 5>pick me up from school in Orange County, drive me

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<v Speaker 5>all the.

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<v Speaker 7>Way to LA in Orange County. That's a that's a trick.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not close.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to talk to you a little bit about

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<v Speaker 5>little miss Bliss because we had a similar situation on

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<v Speaker 5>Boy Meets World, and this type of heartbreak is common

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<v Speaker 5>for a lot of us. You were cast in the

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<v Speaker 5>pilot and listen to this trio of stars guys, Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>Brian Austin Green, Juliel White and Jonathan Brandis.

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<v Speaker 4>And Hale Mike God and you are the star of

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<v Speaker 4>this thing.

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<v Speaker 7>Well no so I so, Hailey Mills was the star

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<v Speaker 7>of it. So the initial show, good Morning Miss Bliss,

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<v Speaker 7>it was called she was a teacher within this school,

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<v Speaker 7>so it was about her. We just happened to be

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<v Speaker 7>kids in the class. But yeah, so we did. We

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<v Speaker 7>did the pilot for that show, and then they decided, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>we want to we want to pick this up and

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<v Speaker 7>shoot it in Florida. And I was like, nope, I

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<v Speaker 7>live in the valley. Good, I live in the valley.

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<v Speaker 7>I love my life. I really liked skateboarding, and I

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<v Speaker 7>really love still having my feet when I go past

0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:17.400
<v Speaker 7>bodies of water. So you know, so I stayed and

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<v Speaker 7>the show went out there and then it kind of

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<v Speaker 7>reformulated itself and came back as say, by the bell.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, how big of a deal for you was it then?

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<v Speaker 5>When you booked that role, though, I mean you ultimately

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<v Speaker 5>decided not to do it because they were going to

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<v Speaker 5>send you to Florida, But like when you get a job.

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<v Speaker 7>Like that, that's a big deal. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 7>big deal. But that was like that was the business that, yeah,

0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.440
<v Speaker 7>like you did. You did commercials. You did as many

0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.800
<v Speaker 7>national commercials as you could because they paid well. And

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<v Speaker 7>then you booked a pilot and you would go shoot

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<v Speaker 7>a pilot. And there were only three networks at that time,

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<v Speaker 7>and so they were each doing like fifteen pilots a year,

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<v Speaker 7>and you had pilot season. You had no member and

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<v Speaker 7>like February right top of the year, and so you

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<v Speaker 7>would try and book a pilot and then probably ninety

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<v Speaker 7>eight percent of the pilots never got picked up. So

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<v Speaker 7>you'd book a pilot, you'd shoot it, and you go cool,

0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.960
<v Speaker 7>a nice meeting everybody, and then you would go guest

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<v Speaker 7>on other shows and you know, do do as much

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<v Speaker 7>stuff as you could. So we were I remember we were.

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<v Speaker 7>We were all excited about it because it was fun.

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<v Speaker 7>It was a bunch of kids, and it was live audience,

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<v Speaker 7>which I had never really done before that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>we did. We did the pilot and then it was

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<v Speaker 7>like that was sort of it. Like I never I

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<v Speaker 7>didn't understand that pilots get picked up and then they

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<v Speaker 7>become shows that are on consistently. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 7>you were just do we know a bunch of pilots.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't know. It's It was the same thing when

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<v Speaker 7>I first started doing commercials and my friend told me

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<v Speaker 7>that he did commercials. I was like, wait, regular people

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<v Speaker 7>can do this. Like I thought you had to be

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<v Speaker 7>some sort of magic, you know, live in some alternate

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<v Speaker 7>universe on television. I had no idea that kids just

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<v Speaker 7>got into it. An auditioned, and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 7>you were on TV.

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<v Speaker 4>It was crazy, so funny.

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<v Speaker 7>I did a pilot with Joey Lawrence. That's how we

0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.480
<v Speaker 7>ended up becoming friends. We did a pilot for They

0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:27.880
<v Speaker 7>did a series of from Adventures in babysitting, and so

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<v Speaker 7>we were both the leads on that pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Keith Coogan involved in that? No, I played Keith Coogan,

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<v Speaker 1>you played played character.

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<v Speaker 7>I've actually been at like some of these conventions and

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<v Speaker 7>I was at one and I'd never met Keith before,

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<v Speaker 7>and he came up and he.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, hey, dude, you played me in the pilot.

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<v Speaker 7>How did you know that it was a pilot? Nobody

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<v Speaker 7>picked it up, nobody ever saw it. Coogan knows all.

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<v Speaker 7>He knows pretty much everything there is to know.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I do think it's pretty InCred that you, Juliel,

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<v Speaker 5>and Jonathan all went on to become massive stars in

0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.000
<v Speaker 5>the nineties, and then you also appeared on Saved by

0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:09.080
<v Speaker 5>the Bell the college years.

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<v Speaker 7>I did. Yeah, so I was. I was dating Tiffany

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<v Speaker 7>at that point, okay, and yeah, they had moved from

0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.399
<v Speaker 7>the kind of, you know, morning ish sitcom thing to

0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.760
<v Speaker 7>that and it was kind of a prime time sitcom

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<v Speaker 7>that they were doing. And yeah, I just made a

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<v Speaker 7>quick I walked in with a turkey. I think it

0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.680
<v Speaker 7>was all right, anybody anybody want turkey? It felt it

0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.960
<v Speaker 7>was a really good line reading. I don't know if

0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.440
<v Speaker 7>you saw it or not. But I won quite a

0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:43.640
<v Speaker 7>few Razzies for that one.

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<v Speaker 5>There is one more very early, Brian Austin Green Job.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to ask you about, which is Small Wonder.

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<v Speaker 5>You did two episodes alongside.

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<v Speaker 8>Vicky the Robot. What do you remember from Wait, do

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<v Speaker 8>you guys know that show? It's a small under Yes, she.

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<v Speaker 7>Had like a little gluten panel on her back and

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<v Speaker 7>they opened it up and it was the best way. Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>but I remember I was so that was probably one

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<v Speaker 7>of the jobs I was the most excited about when

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<v Speaker 7>I was young, because I watched the show. All of

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<v Speaker 7>a sudden I was on. I was like, oh my god,

0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.320
<v Speaker 7>it's Vicky the Robot and it's the whole thing, and

0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.240
<v Speaker 7>it was really cool to be doing. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 7>every once in a while you have those moments where

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<v Speaker 7>you're on a set. You guys know you're on a

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<v Speaker 7>set and you go, I cannot believe I'm on this

0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.520
<v Speaker 7>set right here. Yeah, I'm a huge fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was too. Yeah, it was such a good show.

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<v Speaker 7>It was just such a good show.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany Brissette is a nurse now in Colorado. You played Vicky.

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<v Speaker 1>You played all the shows like where is that? Where's

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<v Speaker 1>the cast of silver spoons. That's what happens in my

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<v Speaker 1>in my house at three a m.

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<v Speaker 7>Stuff like that. You should put the coffee down.

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<v Speaker 2>Great wonder was important in my childhood. That was up

0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.600
<v Speaker 2>there with all the all those silver spring different strokes.

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<v Speaker 4>And My Two Dads, Oh yeah, of course Two Dads was.

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<v Speaker 1>Was created by Boy creator Michael Jacobs.

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<v Speaker 7>So I was on one episode of My Two Dads

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<v Speaker 7>and and it's the only time I was ever fired

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<v Speaker 7>I did. There's not much of a story to it. Honestly,

0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.840
<v Speaker 7>that's the best part that like, that's I should have

0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.080
<v Speaker 7>saved that for the end to have some big like

0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.720
<v Speaker 7>cliffhanger moment, But I'm terrible at telling stories.

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<v Speaker 6>It was probably Michael Jacobs who fired you. So do

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<v Speaker 6>you remember what that was? It after a run through or.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, And we had been rehearsing and then we did

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<v Speaker 7>a run through and I had a scene sitting at

0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:55.359
<v Speaker 7>a table with uh Stacy Keenan was on that show,

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<v Speaker 7>and there was somebody else and I was really new

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<v Speaker 7>to sitcoms, and I just didn't completely understand the timing

0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:05.200
<v Speaker 7>of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I went to yourself, you're gonna, We're gonna.

0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.800
<v Speaker 7>We're gonna have to uh recast I was, but again

0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:15.760
<v Speaker 7>I was so young. I was like, okay, so what

0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.120
<v Speaker 7>is do I I still get paid for this day, right,

0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.760
<v Speaker 7>That's you know, That's all I really cared about at

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<v Speaker 7>that point.

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<v Speaker 4>I if there's one gift I can give you, I

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<v Speaker 4>would just like for you to know it wasn't you.

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<v Speaker 7>No, it was. It felt like me when when the

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<v Speaker 7>firing came down.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm not saying it didn't feel like you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you were made to you were definitely told it was you.

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<v Speaker 6>But I I do just want you to know Michael

0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:46.040
<v Speaker 6>Jacobs fired probably ten kids within the first five episodes

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:46.840
<v Speaker 6>of Boy Meets.

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<v Speaker 5>World, so that's a and threatened to fire me after

0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.320
<v Speaker 5>my first day, and I was already replacing someone who

0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:51.920
<v Speaker 5>had been fired.

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.120
<v Speaker 6>And you have to eat like and and he would

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<v Speaker 6>it's a line reading like he would give line readings

0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:00.280
<v Speaker 6>and if you didn't say it, he wanted it said.

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<v Speaker 7>I remember that the very specific And he came out

0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.240
<v Speaker 7>and he was we were sitting in a restaurant doing

0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.000
<v Speaker 7>a scene, sitting at a table, and he kept giving

0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 7>me these line readings of exactly what he wanted. I

0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.000
<v Speaker 7>was like, I couldn't do it. Exactly the way he

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:15.560
<v Speaker 7>was and that was it. Yeah.

0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:20.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so, like I said, just it's a lift from us.

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.080
<v Speaker 7>It's good to know now at fifty two.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, you know, you never know that you

0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:28.359
<v Speaker 5>said it's the only time you were ever fired, and

0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:29.360
<v Speaker 5>then when you told.

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<v Speaker 7>A lifetime I can't wait to tell my therapist that.

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<v Speaker 8>Let her know.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian, you did small wonder. You don't have to apologize it.

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<v Speaker 7>It's true, right you did the pilot for Adventures in

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<v Speaker 7>Babysitting everybody else.

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<v Speaker 5>So in order to join SAG you add Austin to

0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 5>your name. I want to know, have you ever met

0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:51.680
<v Speaker 5>the other Brian Green?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I have not.

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<v Speaker 7>I wished his demise when I was younger because I

0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 7>didn't know what all that entailed. I realized that is

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:05.399
<v Speaker 7>a terrible thing to wish upon anybody. But yeah, it

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:09.399
<v Speaker 7>was when when I just so, my mom had a

0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.159
<v Speaker 7>whole name planned for me when she was pregnant and

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:14.959
<v Speaker 7>I was I had really broad shoulders as a as

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:19.200
<v Speaker 7>a baby, so she had a real hard time in labor.

0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 7>And my dad, who smoked a lot of pot at

0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.760
<v Speaker 7>this point in life. While my mom was in the

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.399
<v Speaker 7>middle of labor, he came forward, and he was like,

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.120
<v Speaker 7>can we name him Brian? I'm alm was like, name

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 7>him whatever the fuck you want, just get us get

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.479
<v Speaker 7>out of me. And that was literally the only name

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:40.520
<v Speaker 7>he came up with. He came up with no middle name,

0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:44.600
<v Speaker 7>no anything, that was just Brian Green. And then all

0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:46.440
<v Speaker 7>of a sudden, sag is going out. There's another Brian

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 7>Green in the union. So you have to come up

0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:51.440
<v Speaker 7>with a middle name, and Brian Green is not a

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.880
<v Speaker 7>very easy name to come up with a middle name

0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:57.879
<v Speaker 7>for where the whole thing flows very well. We almost

0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 7>named me Brian Peter Green, after my mom's dad, but

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 7>then my initial would have been Peace. It was Brian p. Green.

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 7>We were like, good start that does that'll that'll make

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 7>him break a career. So that so we went through

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.560
<v Speaker 7>a bunch of names and we ended up going through

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 7>the map and Austin, Yeah, yeah, you could.

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:28.680
<v Speaker 4>Have gone with like Willie broad Shoulders.

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't have.

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:32.879
<v Speaker 7>I don't know how well my co would have done, but.

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 1>That's r get this kid out of me Green. Yeah,

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Brian name and whatever the you want.

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:45.920
<v Speaker 7>Skills are incredible, This podcast is done. You should just

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:51.159
<v Speaker 7>be writing books of what we're gonna do. Yeah, right,

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 7>I'm already on the third one. What are you talking about?

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 7>Does this still happen?

0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Are there still actors having to have three names? Because

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 3>it was such an but I don't hear about it

0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 3>that much anymore, Like, no.

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 7>It's absolutely it's you can't be you can't be in

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 7>the I don't think you can be in the union

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 7>with the same name as somebody else. I think you

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:13.080
<v Speaker 7>have to have some sort of thing that differentiates so

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 7>they can keep track of checks when they come in,

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 7>they can monitor they you know, do all the stuff

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 7>that they that they as a union do. So strange.

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, you joined SAG and then shortly thereafter you

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 5>start booking a lot of different shows. You book a

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 5>big recurring role on Knat's Landing and you become a

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 5>bit of like a child actor VET At this point,

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:34.159
<v Speaker 5>did it.

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 4>Feel like something big was coming? Like did you always have.

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 7>That viewing it was in my or scrubs? You know,

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:48.640
<v Speaker 7>it was no, So no, because the uh, the business

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 7>was really small when I was young. There were probably

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:57.680
<v Speaker 7>thirty kids total, so we would all see each other

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 7>at all the auditions and stuff. So it was myself

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 7>and Seth Green and DiCaprio and Toby maguire and like

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 7>we had this small group and we all knew each other,

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 7>so there was no competition between anybody. It was sort

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 7>of like, oh, you're looking for a little redhead kid.

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 7>Oh well, then Seth is your guy. Like I don't

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 7>even know why I'm in here, and I was like,

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 7>go get him, Seth. Like we were all we were

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 7>all rooting for each other. But the the business it

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 7>set there wasn't. Honestly, I don't. I really don't think

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 7>it was until nine o two one oh that there

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 7>were shows that were really rooted around young young kids, teenagers,

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 7>high schoolers, you know, middle schoolers. So at that point

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 7>kids were getting parts in adult shows. All the shows

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 7>that we were that I was doing was NOTTS landing

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 7>adult shows. I would come through with like a every

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:02.680
<v Speaker 7>once in a while just to show that, like, you know,

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 7>the character had a kid, right, That's all I was

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 7>there for. And then all of a sudden that shifted,

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 7>and then it became kids were actually the leads of things,

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:17.679
<v Speaker 7>and things were really like aggressively shifting, you know, because

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 7>Boy Meets World, you guys were really like on the

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 7>cusp the ground. You were groundbreaking as far as what

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 7>it was you were doing. You know, the business has

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 7>changed so much, so I had no I had no

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 7>sense back then of that this was going to be

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 7>my career. Like I grew up in music, right, so

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 7>I thought, oh, Okay, I'm making some good money doing this,

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 7>but I'm going to be a drummer, you know, in

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 7>a band and that and that's it. There was nobody

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 7>else in my family that had ever been acting before.

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 7>I had nobody to sort of learn from or bounce

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 7>ideas off of, or anybody that I had seen succeed

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 7>in it. I didn't know anybody in it. I grew

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 7>up in North Hollywood and it was I went to

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 7>music academies and these performing art schools and it was

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 7>like fame. So we were all like playing instruments and

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:12.200
<v Speaker 7>doing all this stuff. And I had no idea that

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.719
<v Speaker 7>the like student films and the commercials that I did

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 7>as a kid would take over my life and become

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 7>my career. I never had any idea. How did you

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 7>think about acting itself?

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 1>Then?

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Did you think of it was like, oh, just a job,

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 3>had to show up. It was like kind of like

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 3>my model. Ye think I was like a craft that

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 3>you had to work on.

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 7>I didn't understand the craft side of it like I had.

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 7>For me, my passion had always been music, right, my

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 7>dad's a.

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Drummer, because you said you had nobody in your family

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that were My dad.

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 7>Is a drummer. He was touring with Glenn Campbell when

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 7>I was born. He was doing like Rhyanstone, Cowboy and

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 7>all that, and then he stopped touring when I was

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 7>about two and a half because he wanted to be

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 7>home more. So he started doing all studio stuff. He

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 7>played on like Frank Sinatra's albums and Doobie Brothers and

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 7>all sorts of really cool stuff. And I went to

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 7>these amazing performing art schools for music. I had to

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 7>like audition to get in. I remember in jazz band.

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:15.640
<v Speaker 7>I went to Hamilton High for high school to begin,

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 7>and then I was failing everything because I was working

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 7>so much, and I ended up graduating from North Hollywood High.

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 7>But one of the guys that I was in jazz

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 7>band with, his name is Abel Borel Junior. He plays

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 7>drums for Paul McCartney. Like it's I grew up with.

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 7>I grew surrounded by all these people that were really,

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 7>really good and what it is they were doing. So

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 7>when I started doing commercials, I hadn't ever met anybody

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 7>that was doing it successfully where I was like, oh

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 7>my god, it can lead to this. I had no

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 7>idea what the end goal of it was, so to me,

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 7>that was kind of a fun thing. You sort of

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 7>show up and you eat crackers or YouTube, gut whatever

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 7>it is that you know, you play volleyball in a

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 7>tank to like whatever it is they're asking of you,

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 7>and then you go home. And then I would go

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 7>home and play music and skateboard and do the stuff

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 7>that I was really passionate about doing and loved doing

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 7>at the time. Wow, that's so funny.

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 4>It was similar for me too.

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 5>I also didn't understand it as a craft, nor did

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 5>I understand it as a business. It was just like

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, and my family didn't really quite understand it either.

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 5>So I think that you're you're not alone there.

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:28.479
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. My family was like my mom was my business manager,

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 7>my dad was my manager, and everybody was like learning

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 7>as they were, right, and no one.

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 4>Had an experience or education in it.

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So along comes the Beverly Hills nine O two

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 5>one Oho audition and it's an Aaron Spelling show.

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Was that intimidating.

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 7>No, I had no idea who he was, Okay, not

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 7>a clue. I literally had zero. Everyone was like, oh

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 7>my god, it's Aaron Spelling. I was like, I don't

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 7>know who that is. And then they were like, oh,

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 7>he did love Boat, and like they started naming all

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 7>the shows and I was like, oh my god, I

0:29:56.680 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 7>know those shows, but I didn't know who played what

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 7>role in pre production or any like. I didn't know

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 7>that TV producers were as big as they were at

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 7>that point they were putting these projects. I had no idea. Yeah,

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 7>I was like, oh boy, lucky him. He jumped on

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 7>board this love Boat thing. I didn't know. I didn't

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 7>know that he was creating these things and putting these

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 7>teams together and making these happen. I remember all of

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 7>the auditions that I had were in his office, which

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 7>was really incredible, Like it was massive, and he had

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 7>this huge, like twenty five foot long couch and this

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 7>crazy with like pinball machines. But he was this incredibly

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 7>kind guy. So it was I'd been doing this at

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 7>this point. I was sixteen when I went into audition.

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 7>I started acting when I was nine, so like I was.

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 7>I walked in the room and I was like, I've

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 7>been in a million of these rooms, Like this doesn't

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 7>intimidate me at all. It's a really cool office. You

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 7>seem like a really nice guy, like this is this

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 7>is cool. And then the fact that the script was

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 7>about like like high junior high, high school kids. I

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 7>was like, oh, this is pretty cool, Like I can

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 7>I can do this. You know. I knew Doug Emerson

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 7>at the time. We had been acting together, so I

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 7>read with him when we were in there, and we

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 7>had chemistry from knowing each other. So it just sort

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:27.959
<v Speaker 7>of it all happened really fast, and it didn't. There

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 7>wasn't really much magic to it at that point. You know,

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 7>the auditioning process.

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not this.

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 7>Magical thing where you're like, oh my god, I booked

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 7>this pilot. I feel like this is the one, Like

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 7>you sort of you book a pilot and you go

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 7>I've read better. Yeah you know, I'll do it.

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 4>Sure, Yeah, yeah, I was f Yi.

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 5>I was famously not allowed to watch nine O two

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 5>one oh as a kid, so I eventually had.

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:53.479
<v Speaker 4>To do a lot of catch up.

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 7>So good parenting.

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my parents were like absolutely not my parents.

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we did. The whole family would get together and

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:03.239
<v Speaker 1>watching nine O two and oh.

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 7>So there it's crazy crazy.

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 5>In the first season, you played a bit of an

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 5>outcast on the show, not yet like really in the

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 5>friend group, sort of peering in from the outside. Was

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 5>that also what was going on when the cameras were

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 5>off or were you guys all close right off the bat?

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 6>Uh?

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 7>We were pretty close right off the bat. I mean,

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 7>I so I had known Shannon for years from when

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 7>she was doing Little House on the Prairie and Our House,

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 7>that show with Chad Allen and Wiff Grimley. I had

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 7>funny enough, I did. So I knew Doug. We had

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 7>known each other for years from commercials and everything Luke

0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 7>and I had done. We did a Doctor Pepper a

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 7>commercial literally like four weeks before I booked the pilot

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 7>and started doing that, and then he came on and

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 7>we were like, holy, like a drive in theater doing

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 7>this Doctor Pepper commercial.

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 7>So we got along really well, and it was it

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 7>was fun because we were all young and so it

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 7>was kind of cool and we were on these locations

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 7>and it was really fun and we got to kind

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 7>of be silly and Dopey together. David Silver was really

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 7>was really fun when the show started, and the character

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 7>was that way because it was I wasn't necessarily in

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 7>school like a nerd like that, but I was really small.

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 7>I had tons of energy, so I was like hyper

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 7>and obnoxious to people that I was around, and I

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 7>didn't really have a specific friend group. I sort of

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 7>bounced around from group to group to group, like I

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 7>hung out with skaters, I hung out with, you know,

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 7>kids that were in band class with me. Like I

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 7>was sort of all over the place. But David Silver

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:13.479
<v Speaker 7>was really fun because we it became this like goal

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 7>of ours to come up with the most ridiculous things

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.439
<v Speaker 7>that we could. So we would we would find really

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 7>crazy swaths of material and they would make pants and

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 7>like all like we had all of these crazy we

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 7>would put buttons all over things, and it was really

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 7>fun because it was completely different from the world that

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 7>I was living in at that point. So then as

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 7>the show went on and it started as it does,

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 7>the you know the two start combining, yep, and it

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 7>then it became harder. It became harder for me. I

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 7>don't know how it was for you guys. How old

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 7>were you when you started doing the show twelve you

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:51.280
<v Speaker 7>were twelve.

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I was sixteen.

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I was in the middle so I didn't and to

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 2>hang out with them and too young to hang out

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 2>with the adults.

0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 7>How long did you do the show? For?

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Years?

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 7>So you know, like that is that's that period in

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 7>your life where you're like really sort of figuring out

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 7>who you are. You're insecure about all sorts of things.

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 7>But then you're going through all of that in front

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 7>of everybody, and it is and as soon as your

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 7>actual life starts crossing with that, then you start becoming

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 7>insecure with who you are at home compared to this

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 7>is writers.

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 4>This is exactly writer's life. Yeah.

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then the writers start borrowing from your life.

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 7>To you know, they have to. You're writing for kids,

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 7>do better to research than you in your life outside

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 7>of it. Oh my god, he's really into music, he's

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 7>really into ooh. Let's start incorporating those things. And then

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 7>all of a sudden, you're you know, you're bringing your

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 7>own things from home to work, and as soon as

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 7>somebody says they don't like it, you're like, oh my god,

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.879
<v Speaker 7>but I made that at home, Like this is now,

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 7>how do I separate this, you start feeling like, oh,

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 7>people just don't like me, and it's and you know,

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 7>as an adult mind, I can grasp the concept of

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 7>people watching and how it works and that they don't

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 7>realize all of these things are coming from my home.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 7>But when you're young and you're already feeling scrutinized just

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:18.240
<v Speaker 7>because that's part of growing up, then that the life

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 7>that we lived at a young age, it's a hard

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 7>thing to do. Yes, it's a real hard thing to do,

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 7>and I give a lot of credit to people that

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 7>made it out of it.

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 2>You know. Well, there's also an interesting aspect to it

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 2>because you're you're also expected not to complain about it

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 2>in any way, shape or form, because you're lucky that

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 2>you're getting a chance to even be doing this work.

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 2>So the idea that it's difficult in any way, shape

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>or form, it's like other people your age, especially like,

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 2>how dare you think that something bad could come from this?

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.760
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, well, I'm still growing up and living

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 2>my life.

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's all relative. Like I you know, I would

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 7>hear that all the time, and I of course didn't

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 7>understand that completely because I was living in it. So

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 7>for people that had that view. I'm in a completely

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 7>different place than than you are, So you can speak

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 7>from your side of it. I'm speaking from my side

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 7>of it, and they're two completely different things and both

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 7>can exist at the same time. Like people, people get

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 7>caught up in this concept of emotion is mutually exclusive,

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 7>like you either if you are jealous of somebody, then

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 7>you're just jealous. It's like, well, no, I can love

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 7>somebody and be happy for them and then be jealous

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 7>of them at the same time. Right, that's okay, that's

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 7>all right to have both of those things going. But

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 7>people don't completely get that, and they feel guilty when

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.439
<v Speaker 7>they feel like, oh my god, this is my best friend,

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 7>but I'm jealous because they're getting this opportunity and I

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 7>so wish that I had it. So then they start

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 7>stuffing that and it creates it creates all of these

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 7>all these problems. Believe me, it was my therapist that

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 7>point that point of this stuff out. Yeah this isn't like,

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 7>oh my god, I'm a genius, and so I came

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 7>up with this myself, like my fa you know.

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, yeah, we were We've all been in therapy.

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 7>It's just a part of it. We'll kind to it.

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 7>We're all we're all child actors. Yeah, exactly, if we're

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 7>surviving now we've gone through therapy.

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, that's accurate.

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:23.839
<v Speaker 5>I think your big moment on the show as it's

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 5>building its audience in season two, ends up becoming part

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 5>of the nine O two one zero folklore Forever, and

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 5>it's the episode that is called the Next forty Years

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 5>and your best friend Scott accidentally shoots himself at his

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 5>sixteenth birthday party.

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 4>It was a very intense episode.

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Growing up watching nine to two and zero with my family,

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 2>I remember the announcement that a character was going to die.

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Really, oh yeah, this was a thing.

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, of course.

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 5>It was very intense and nothing like that had ever

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 5>been done for kids or teens before. Do you remember

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 5>finding out that that episode was going to happen? Did

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 5>they talk to you about it ahead of time?

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:07.880
<v Speaker 8>What was that like?

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 7>Yeah? They that was That was a really tough point.

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 7>It was absolutely for me, absolutely bittersweet. Like I they

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 7>started putting David and Donna together and they realized like, oh,

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 7>this is kind of a fun duo and this thing

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 7>and so maybe we have David du summer school. So

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.359
<v Speaker 7>he can then be in the same grade as all

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 7>these kids. But then they they were like, okay, well

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:39.360
<v Speaker 7>then these two kids, these two guys, we can't have

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 7>both of them, Like it doesn't make any sense. So

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:51.439
<v Speaker 7>they came up with this idea of Doug unfortunately having

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 7>to do that, and I remember getting the script and

0:39:55.360 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 7>being shocked, being happy again and two emotions at the

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:05.439
<v Speaker 7>same time. Happy it wasn't me, but then really really

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 7>sad that it was him because the show was really

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.840
<v Speaker 7>blowing up at that point and we all knew it.

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 7>So to then have to say to him, like, okay,

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 7>thanks for being here in the beginning, and you know,

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 7>we're going to take it from here really really hard.

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 7>Like we had done all the cast photos and the things,

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 7>and he was in all the stuff, and then all

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 7>of a sudden, he's not there. I remember his he

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 7>and his mom had rewritten that scene where he doesn't

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 7>get shot, like you know, it was it was like

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 7>sort of a joke thing, but I think that there

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:42.280
<v Speaker 7>was a part of it that was kind.

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Of, oh, yeah, no, thanks for playing drums peep, but

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 2>we just met someone named Ringo.

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 7>Exactly yeah, exactly perfect. But it was no.

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my friends were there were conversations.

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>People were talking because they set it up as someone's

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna dieferent pictures on the screen, so people were talking

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 2>about like.

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 7>Who do you They were saying one of one of

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 7>the characters you love is gonna die or like it

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 7>was something like that, yes, and god, who.

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 2>Who do you think it's gonna be? And why is

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 2>it going to happen? And but and so yeah, there was.

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 2>It was a whole thing basically, did.

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 7>You put your money on anyone going We knew.

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 1>We knew who was gonna I mean, I think most

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>people knew who was gonna go Me it was like no,

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>but you kind of you hate to say it was.

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 1>The way they built it up was great.

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 2>But there was one character that if you had to

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 2>lift quote unquote lift them out of the script, there

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 2>was one that lifted out because you did.

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 7>Right. Nobody likes the megabird, but no, we saw it.

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 2>They they were clearly aging you up. I mean, it

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 2>was clear that they were aging you up. They were

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 2>putting you with the Donna character.

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:52.439
<v Speaker 7>And they were and they started incorporating these things where

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 7>David and Scott were like not seeing an eye on things,

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 7>and they were kind of arguing, and Scott came back

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:02.880
<v Speaker 7>from summer break with like the cowboy hat on and

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 7>all this stuff, and like they really really went for

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 7>like okay, these two are completely different, Like they really

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 7>leaned into it. I remember because I saw him in

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 7>the cowboy hat when he came back the stets and

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 7>I was like, oh my god, that is a big hat. Yeah,

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 7>like they it was like it wasn't hard enough to

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 7>read the script to have to read the script with

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 7>that big stetson on your head. Oh my god, not

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 7>only are they getting rid of me, but look at

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 7>this ridiculous wardrobe.

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Look at this the moogue and I.

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Remember the big monologue and then my friend thinks he's

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 2>a cowboy and shoots himself in the stomach.

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I remember, all this was.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Is this for for a generation of TV watchers? This

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 2>was an important television moment?

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 7>It really was. It was Yeah, yeah, crazy. Looking back

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 7>on it now, it's you realize like, oh my god,

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 7>that's we started a lot.

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:00.320
<v Speaker 2>This was Dudley getting molested in the back of the

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 2>bike shop. On different strokes, like okay, there's a there's

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of different television moments for a kid that

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 2>stick out in the refrigerator, the refrigerator.

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is this is another one of those

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>moments that sticks with you. It really does.

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, for sure.

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 5>Well at this point now nine o two one, omnia

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 5>is in full effect. When did you first know this

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 5>was going to be much more than just one of

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 5>those other pilots or shows you had done?

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:32.879
<v Speaker 7>We did? We did grad night at Disneyland. Oh yeah,

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 7>and just to completely date myself and when this was

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 7>another bad creation, was there so cool there? And we

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 7>were we were doing an appearance on the Tomorrowland Terrace,

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 7>that stage that comes up out of the ground, and

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 7>so we were down in sort of the bowels of

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 7>Disney and the tunnels, the underground crazy system where Mickey

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 7>walks around with no costume, head on and stuff like that.

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 7>It's really if you're young, it's shocking. Yes, I was. Really.

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:06.360
<v Speaker 7>It was a lot for me to take years of

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 7>therapy to get over that.

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 4>You were a teenager.

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 7>But still, you know, Mickey held a special place in

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 7>my heart, and so I was. I was a bit devastating,

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 7>just a bit. And so Wilson Phillips were up above

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 7>and they were performing a song and the crowd was

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 7>going crazy, as I assumed they would. I was like,

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.240
<v Speaker 7>oh my god, Wilson Phillips are out there. This is crazy.

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:34.359
<v Speaker 7>And so they were done, and then the crowd start

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 7>screaming again. So I was like, oh my god, they

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.360
<v Speaker 7>must be doing like an encore, something going, you know,

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.320
<v Speaker 7>something going on. So as a cast, we had this

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.399
<v Speaker 7>really stupid idea of like, hey, when the stage comes

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 7>down and we're supposed to get on, we'll get on,

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 7>but we'll all hide. So when the stage comes up,

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 7>there's nobody on the stage. It looks like they've said,

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 7>you know, this empty stage back up. So we did

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:58.400
<v Speaker 7>that and it came up and everybody was a bit

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 7>kind of quiet, and and then we all popped out

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:09.280
<v Speaker 7>and the crowd went bananas. And that was the first

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.879
<v Speaker 7>time we realized, like, oh my god, all of these

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 7>kids are watching our show and loving it. And it

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 7>was a sea of kids.

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 8>Wow.

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 7>Leading up to that, it had been stuff here and there,

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.879
<v Speaker 7>like you know, a car full of girls with their

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 7>parents at the gas station, Oh my god, are you

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:28.879
<v Speaker 7>on that show?

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 3>And you know and all that.

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:34.800
<v Speaker 7>But that was the first real like oh my beatle

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 7>feeling moment. I mean, we came from New Kids on

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.320
<v Speaker 7>the block were on the cover of every magazine, So

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 7>all of a sudden be having these moments where it's like, God,

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:47.400
<v Speaker 7>I've seen this before, yeah, and now we are in

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 7>the shoes of these people that are like running to

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 7>chain link fences and running down lines to jump into

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 7>a van for the door to close, to get out

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 7>of the way. It was. It was really surreal for me.

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 7>Like I remember Ian and I took a trip to

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 7>Spain at one point to promote the show, and there

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 7>were fifteen thousand people in the airport in Spain. Oh,

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 7>they had to shut down the airport. Shut down the

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:16.359
<v Speaker 7>airport like that, had no flights. We we ruined people's days,

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 7>you know. I'm sure all the parents were like, yes,

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:27.759
<v Speaker 7>but it was bananas. And they they sent lookalikes out

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 7>one door to sort of move the crowd so we

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 7>could get out. We were on the freeway and kids

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 7>were running across the freeway. We got to the hotel,

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 7>went to sleep because it was such a long flight.

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:40.320
<v Speaker 7>Got up the next morning and I opened the window

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 7>to my room and there were thousands of people down

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 7>on the street. And it felt like when you'd see

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 7>the videos of Michael Jackson or Madonna or whatever, you

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:52.719
<v Speaker 7>know out of the country and that on that pandemonium

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 7>on the street, and all of a sudden I was

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:56.399
<v Speaker 7>in that. It was it was like, oh my god,

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 7>what is happening?

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I remember it made the news when Luke Perry

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 2>went to a mall and he was there for like

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:08.280
<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds and they had to escort him out because

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:11.280
<v Speaker 2>they thought people were gonna die, Like literally thought people.

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 7>Were They would do crazy things like sneak us into

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 7>like laundry, the rolling laundry baskets and stuff and like

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:20.880
<v Speaker 7>put clothes up because we were doing these mall appearances.

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 7>But these stores are in the middle of the mall, right,

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:26.799
<v Speaker 7>so you have to go through the mall to get

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 7>to Sam Hoodie or you know forever, like these store pennies.

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 7>Like it was I forget what stores they were at

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 7>that point, but nobody thought about that. They would fill

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:40.319
<v Speaker 7>them all with thousands of people and then it's like, oh, yeah,

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 7>how are we going to get yeah it out for

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 7>these appearances. They didn't think that through, so they would

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 7>have to get us through these crowds. And at that

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 7>point it was all young girls, so it was just

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:55.759
<v Speaker 7>streaming and pandemonium, and no, we ever did this.

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 3>We never did what were mall appearances?

0:47:58.560 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 4>All appearances?

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 1>You just don't I did, took you and.

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 3>You sign on it and people, are you getting paid?

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Is it like a convention?

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 7>Okay, it was like a convention, but you're paid by

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 7>the store, and the store would end up getting thousands

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 7>of people running through it just sign stuff.

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 3>I guess we did.

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 7>We did that one right, But they would they wouldn't

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 7>pay for autographs. They would just pay us a flat

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 7>fee to go do these. We did a bunch of

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 7>car shows, there were things like that, and I remember

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 7>like it those It was the same thing. They would

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 7>just pay you a flat fee and then you'd go

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 7>and you just signed as many autographs as you could

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:35.800
<v Speaker 7>over the course of a day or two days, and

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 7>you'd go home. It wasn't like conventions are now.

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I remember distinctly.

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 2>It was nineteen ninety four and my roommate at the time,

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 2>uh he and I decided to go to Europe. So

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 2>we're on a train and we're going where We're sitting

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 2>in a train car and two German girls who are

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 2>teenagers sit across from and of course what you do

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:58.319
<v Speaker 2>in Europe. They start drinking beers and we start talking

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.800
<v Speaker 2>and I said, so you know what you watch television?

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 1>They both perked up. Of course we do. I said,

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 1>what's what's your favorite show? And they both went nine

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:05.840
<v Speaker 1>O two one oh.

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 2>And they were behind in the seasons coming out because

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:12.839
<v Speaker 2>in Germany they were getting him a little late.

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 1>And as a joke, I said, oh, so is Dylan

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:20.320
<v Speaker 1>still alive in the seasons that you're doing and the

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:22.479
<v Speaker 1>dick burst into tears.

0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 7>Of course you crushed the car and I was like,

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry, I'm sorry crush.

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 1>The girls burst into tears. This is this is again

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Germany in the nineties, and they were freaking out and just.

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:42.759
<v Speaker 5>Arm just like you wish I on Brian Green will

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 5>carries this karma with him forever.

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 1>It was unbelievable though how important it was. I mean

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>the girl literally burst into tears, thinking wonderful favorite characters.

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 7>Crazy, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah, what thing to do? It

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 7>was great? Yeah?

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:01.399
<v Speaker 5>Do you have any idea One more storyline I want

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 5>to ask you about. Do you have any idea where

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:05.800
<v Speaker 5>exchange and egg to find a rave? Do you have

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 5>any idea where that may have have come from. Do

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:09.360
<v Speaker 5>you remember that storyline.

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:12.839
<v Speaker 7>I think that was a thing at that time time.

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:16.239
<v Speaker 7>I think when raves were going on, they would see

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 7>they would make them really secretive. So it was like

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:20.879
<v Speaker 7>you had to go to this liquor store at this time,

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:23.720
<v Speaker 7>and nobody knew the location of any of these things.

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.239
<v Speaker 7>So I think that's what made the raves at that

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 7>point really cool, was that if you didn't know and

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 7>they didn't somebody didn't send you to this liquor store

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:36.239
<v Speaker 7>to get this information, then you wouldn't be there and

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.359
<v Speaker 7>you would be able to find it. Yeah, and these

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 7>parties were they were massive, these raves, and they went

0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 7>they were like these after hours things. Uh, it was

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 7>way before the drug The drugs were really involved in

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 7>all of them, and it was just this kind of fun,

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 7>cool late night thing for kids to do. So the

0:50:57.200 --> 0:51:00.200
<v Speaker 7>writers I think stole that idea from actual.

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:01.359
<v Speaker 4>Culture at the time.

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 2>As the show became more popular and you were growing

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 2>up as a cast, were you allowed any kind of

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 2>creative input to what was happening in the show or.

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:14.959
<v Speaker 7>Tons tons great? Yeah, yeah, they were Wow, that's so great.

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:20.360
<v Speaker 7>They were not. They they completely understood the concept of

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 7>we will be writing these based on real things that

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 7>you guys are doing. They were I mean we were

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 7>doing thirty four episodes a season at the height of

0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:37.360
<v Speaker 7>that show. Wosh, we did over three We did no,

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 7>just under three hundred episodes in ten It was it

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 7>was really we worked constantly. We we shot ten out

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 7>of twelve months a year, which is by the cast

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:55.040
<v Speaker 7>of our show if you watch. We didn't really have

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:57.200
<v Speaker 7>a chance to go do films because we didn't have

0:51:57.280 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 7>enough time. So we did a lot of these movies

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 7>of the weeks at that point because they shoot them

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 7>in eighteen days, right, so it was you kind of

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 7>prepare and because there were again only a few networks,

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 7>these movie of the weeks were massive at that point.

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:14.840
<v Speaker 7>That was like the payday for actors. It was like,

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.840
<v Speaker 7>oh my god, I'm going to go to Canada and

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 7>you know, nobody was in Canada, like there were there

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:24.320
<v Speaker 7>were like five actors there. Like it really movie of

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 7>the weeks I think, or what started, uh, the Canadian

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:30.239
<v Speaker 7>film industry. I don't know that as a fact, but

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:31.320
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to speak about.

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 4>It like say it.

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, man.

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 5>Another aspect of your character bleeding into real life with

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:56.240
<v Speaker 5>who you were as a person involves your rap album

0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:57.400
<v Speaker 5>One Stop Carnival.

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 4>I have heard many stories out of the ballistics young

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Hollywood era, and I feel like this is part of it.

0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:08.800
<v Speaker 4>Can you tell our listeners what ballistics was?

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 7>So wow ballistics. So I was really good friends with

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 7>David Faustino, who played Bud Bundy on Mary with Children,

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:23.279
<v Speaker 7>and we were friends with Nick Adler, who is Lou

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:26.840
<v Speaker 7>Adler's son. Lou Adler was the manager of the Mamas

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:30.279
<v Speaker 7>and the Papas. He owns the Whiskey, he owns the

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:35.720
<v Speaker 7>Rainbow and on the Rocks he no, he owns the rocks.

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 7>He and on the rocks in the Rainbow room next

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:43.279
<v Speaker 7>to it, like he wise, that really built Sunset. So

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:47.600
<v Speaker 7>they decided like, hey, we're gonna throw this hip hop

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 7>club at the Whiskey, which was just unheard of, Like

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 7>the Whiskey was a rock place, there was there never

0:53:56.719 --> 0:54:03.200
<v Speaker 7>been hip hop in there before. So they started They

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:08.200
<v Speaker 7>were like spray painting tarps to hang up inside and

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:11.600
<v Speaker 7>they like it was it was a true legitimate hip

0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:14.920
<v Speaker 7>hop spot, but it was it was hip hop for

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 7>young Hollywood people that were in town. But it was

0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 7>really the start of something because you know, hip hop

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 7>was really growing at that point, and it had grown

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:33.319
<v Speaker 7>from just being this art form that breakdancing grew out

0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 7>of to really becoming this true music art form in

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:43.440
<v Speaker 7>itself and coming from music myself. I was a big

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:47.120
<v Speaker 7>lover of jazz, so it was an easy crossover for

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 7>me because it was like, oh my god, so much

0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:52.839
<v Speaker 7>jazz was being sampled and redone in hip hop. That's

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:55.080
<v Speaker 7>kind of a lot of it grew out of that.

0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:01.320
<v Speaker 7>So ballistics kind of went along along with this natural

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 7>love of hip hop for us anyway, and then it

0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:09.480
<v Speaker 7>just continued to grow. I was really in the hip

0:55:09.480 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 7>hop scene that was in the nineties, that was and

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:17.239
<v Speaker 7>it still is. That's my heart. My love is hip hop,

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 7>is that culture, is all the music that came out

0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 7>of the out of that decade. That was my decade.

0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 7>So I started I was promoting clubs myself, like early nineties,

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:34.759
<v Speaker 7>I was promoting one at Bar one that that was

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 7>really big. Then I started doing a hip hop club

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 7>at the corner of Santa Monica and Vine up in

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 7>the tower. We had the entire penthouse floor. It was

0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 7>called green Light, and it was at the point when

0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:57.000
<v Speaker 7>hip hop was massive and we had literally anybody across

0:55:57.040 --> 0:55:59.879
<v Speaker 7>the country that was in hip hop. So Jermaine Dupre

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 7>whenever he was in town, was up there, Puffy was

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 7>up there, Guru would be up there and he'd be

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:10.240
<v Speaker 7>like freestyling for hours. Buster Rhymes came and like performed Wuha.

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 7>When it first came out, like we had literally anybody

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 7>that was in town, and it was this really incredible

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 7>spot where the elevator doors opened up and we had

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:21.040
<v Speaker 7>two sides to it, so I did all. I had

0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:24.359
<v Speaker 7>a DJ playing all just classic jazz on one side

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:26.160
<v Speaker 7>and then the other side was all hip hop. So

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:28.640
<v Speaker 7>ye on the jazz side, you heard the stuff that

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 7>was then sampled and was playing there was really cool

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:35.400
<v Speaker 7>and it was and to me, I just wanted to

0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:37.640
<v Speaker 7>build a place where it was all the music that

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:41.879
<v Speaker 7>I loved, but I could like get out any door

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:43.560
<v Speaker 7>if I ever had to get out, Like it was

0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:47.640
<v Speaker 7>just safe. It was a safe place for me. I

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:49.239
<v Speaker 7>was doing a lot of music at home at the

0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:54.000
<v Speaker 7>same time, and a friend of mine who was a

0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:59.200
<v Speaker 7>piano player and a songwriter, his name was Ralph. He

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:03.480
<v Speaker 7>he was everything was on cassette at this point, and

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:07.880
<v Speaker 7>Babyface was looking for new producers to have within his

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 7>in his camp. So my buddy Ralph sent his tape

0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 7>over there of a bunch of stuff that he had done,

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 7>and a couple of the songs that were on this

0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 7>tape were things that I had done just sort of

0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:26.760
<v Speaker 7>for fun. I had a group. And so Babyface said

0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 7>to him, Oh, I really liked this song, and my

0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 7>buddy Ralph was like, oh, I didn't do that. My

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 7>friend Brian did that one. Babyface was like, oh, well,

0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 7>this is a don't think this is lost on me too.

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:40.600
<v Speaker 7>Like Babyface was saying he was the king of the

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 7>world at this point, and he was like, oh, I

0:57:43.600 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 7>really liked this song, and Ralph was like, oh, I

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:49.800
<v Speaker 7>didn't do that one either. My buddy Brian did. Cut

0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 7>to Ralph says to me, hey, Babyface wants to have

0:57:54.000 --> 0:58:00.120
<v Speaker 7>dinner with you with his wife. Like no way. I

0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.280
<v Speaker 7>was before punk. So I was like, I can't like this.

0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:05.120
<v Speaker 7>Isn't you know this. There's gotta be some validity to this.

0:58:06.840 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 7>So I went, I had dinner and it was sure enough.

0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:12.920
<v Speaker 7>It was Babyface and his wife sitting across from me

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 7>at the at the dinner table, and we were talking

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:18.320
<v Speaker 7>about music, and he said, you know, I'm starting a

0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:22.080
<v Speaker 7>new label. He already had the face going at that point.

0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:24.520
<v Speaker 7>He was like, I can't have two labels, so this

0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 7>new one, my wife is gonna run and that, but

0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:30.920
<v Speaker 7>I will kind of be underneath it all sort of

0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:34.760
<v Speaker 7>you know, pulling, pulling the strings and you know, puppeteering

0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:39.160
<v Speaker 7>the whole thing, and we want you to be on

0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:44.480
<v Speaker 7>this label. I was like, are you serious, Like i'd know,

0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:49.520
<v Speaker 7>I had no intention of ever doing an album. I

0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:51.960
<v Speaker 7>was like, I loved hip hop, I loved making beats.

0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:56.600
<v Speaker 7>I came from music cut to I'm like signing this

0:58:56.960 --> 0:59:02.480
<v Speaker 7>deal with Babyface and his wife. And you remember the

0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:08.120
<v Speaker 7>artist John B. Remember him. He was when I was

0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:11.440
<v Speaker 7>looking for beats. He was one of the kids who

0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:14.760
<v Speaker 7>submitted a tape of beats and I remember his demo

0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 7>tape was phenomenal, Like he was this art, he was

0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 7>this like really, he's an incredibly talented R and B singer, songwriter, unbelievable.

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:27.160
<v Speaker 7>It was one of the best. Forget that it was

0:59:27.200 --> 0:59:29.280
<v Speaker 7>a demo tape. It was honestly one of the best

0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:32.880
<v Speaker 7>albums I had heard in years. They ended up signing him,

0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:37.400
<v Speaker 7>So I did this album with uh it was I

0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:41.520
<v Speaker 7>ended up doing it with someone who is now one

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 7>of my closest friends in the world, Trey from the

0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:46.920
<v Speaker 7>Far Side, who I was, and The Far Side. I

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 7>was a huge fan of them at that point, and

0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 7>so we ended up doing this album and the label

0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 7>didn't really know what to do with it because I

0:59:56.560 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 7>was the white guy from nine o two one zero,

0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:02.439
<v Speaker 7>so I think they were expecting more of a There's

1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:04.240
<v Speaker 7>nothing I Love can do for you baby, like I

1:00:04.280 --> 1:00:09.240
<v Speaker 7>would be on a beach playing, you know, football, throwing

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<v Speaker 7>a football to myself and a tank top and like

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<v Speaker 7>that was my audience. And the album I did was

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<v Speaker 7>not that at all. It was the music that I

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<v Speaker 7>loved at the time. It was just as as true

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<v Speaker 7>to hip hop as I could be. And hip hop

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<v Speaker 7>was very, very fickle at that point, so the album

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't received well like it was. Really people were really

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<v Speaker 7>understandably hard on it. I mean, the the the business

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<v Speaker 7>came Vanilla Ice was was big before me, so that

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<v Speaker 7>the culture itself was very weary of anybody white coming

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<v Speaker 7>in and having anything to say or do. And it

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't until really eminem and I mean you had some

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<v Speaker 7>people like ever Last, you had Third Base, you had

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<v Speaker 7>Beastie Boys, you had these people before that were really

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<v Speaker 7>true to it, but they weren't commercial, they weren't pombling.

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<v Speaker 7>They were very all about the culture itself. So the

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<v Speaker 7>fact that I was on such a commercially successful show,

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<v Speaker 7>the cards were stacked against me from day one. And

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<v Speaker 7>I remember going and promoting it and writers of like

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<v Speaker 7>The Source and you know, all these hip hop magazines

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<v Speaker 7>and stuff that we white labeled the album when we

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<v Speaker 7>put it out, so nobody knew it was me, so

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<v Speaker 7>we would get their honest review of it. But then

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<v Speaker 7>I would sit down with them to do an interview

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<v Speaker 7>and they'd be like, oh, you got me, okay, And

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, no, no, no, I don't. We're not

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<v Speaker 7>trying to get you at all, Like we're just we

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<v Speaker 7>just wanted to give it a fair shot, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>But people were really really hard on it. Now it's

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<v Speaker 7>like widely respected, and I wish I had that respect

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<v Speaker 7>in ninety five, but whatever, you know, it's good to

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<v Speaker 7>have it now. It makes me feel good.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I put you on the spot a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>and see if you'll do a little nineties TV star

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<v Speaker 5>rappers ranking between you Scott Cohn, David Faustino.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, wait uh uh, just within my industry

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<v Speaker 7>or just hip hop itself. No, no, just within the industry.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Korn nemic like.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, oh yeah he was so he uh so,

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<v Speaker 7>cor and I are really good friends. Kirky is the

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<v Speaker 7>name that he went by him. He was good, he

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<v Speaker 7>was We were both good friends with this guy Justin

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<v Speaker 7>Warfield who he and Adam went and did she once Revenge.

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<v Speaker 7>They they're they're the two of that group.

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<v Speaker 8>Yea.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, there was a there was a small group

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<v Speaker 7>of us who loved hip hop. I think Korn was

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<v Speaker 7>the best, uh lyricist. He's He's always been a really

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<v Speaker 7>good writer. Yeah he's still to this day. Like he

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<v Speaker 7>writes uh these sort of film things and these TV

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<v Speaker 7>show ida is and stuff that he has, and he's

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<v Speaker 7>really really good at it. I think of any of them,

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<v Speaker 7>I was by far the best beat maker. Not to

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<v Speaker 7>toot my own horn, but I mean, you see, like

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<v Speaker 7>I've got a full studio of stuff, studio this is.

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<v Speaker 7>I would like to brag and be like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 7>is you know, the state of the art podcast studio

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<v Speaker 7>that I've built, but it's not. I've made no money

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<v Speaker 7>in podcasting I've made I've made no money in music,

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<v Speaker 7>but I still to Yeah, this is my thing. Dave

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<v Speaker 7>God Dave like really uh broke the He opened a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of doors for for people within TV to get

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<v Speaker 7>it into.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like the business mind.

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<v Speaker 1>He really was.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh and he's still to this day is like he's

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<v Speaker 7>he's out djaying and doing a lot of stuff now

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<v Speaker 7>and he is still people within that be real. He

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<v Speaker 7>just he has all of these friends within the industry

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<v Speaker 7>that it's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really will make will make no mention of Scott

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<v Speaker 4>con No, Scott.

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<v Speaker 7>Was, Scott was doing his thing. I just he's I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>now he's an actor. Like nobody even knows that he

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<v Speaker 7>was rapping because nothing I don't think anything commercially ever

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<v Speaker 7>came out for Scott con Right. He used to come

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<v Speaker 7>to my club though, it's unbelievable, like the club that

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<v Speaker 7>I did at Bar One. The people that would come

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<v Speaker 7>that I'd see outside at the door, Scotty Kahn with

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<v Speaker 7>like he had he always had gloves on, like it

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<v Speaker 7>was this whole thing. Uh, black eyed peas like well

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<v Speaker 7>I am that they were all they were calling to

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<v Speaker 7>the Hey man, you're doing your club tonight, and they oh, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 7>come on through. And you know, all these all of

1:04:43.560 --> 1:04:49.640
<v Speaker 7>these people within LA then got into that were really

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<v Speaker 7>into hip hop, and the club scene opened the doors

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<v Speaker 7>for a lot of these people.

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<v Speaker 5>So a lot of stars came and went from nine

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<v Speaker 5>oh two one Oho and you, yeah, you really went

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<v Speaker 5>the distance.

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<v Speaker 4>You stayed till the end. Did you ever think about leaving?

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<v Speaker 7>No? Because the money got better and better, right, Like

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<v Speaker 7>why why am I going to jump ship? Now? Like

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<v Speaker 7>I get to, you know, renegotiate my contract, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 7>just gonna stick it out here. I'm gonna I always

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<v Speaker 7>have a sense of I think because I had been

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<v Speaker 7>acting for so long of oh my god, I'm making

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<v Speaker 7>good money. Now like let's stick this thing out and

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<v Speaker 7>make as much as I can and you know, pay

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<v Speaker 7>off my house and like really set myself up and

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<v Speaker 7>then go be an artist and whatever after this is done.

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<v Speaker 7>So at ten years, they still wanted to keep going.

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<v Speaker 7>And I was really done at ten. Yeah, at ten,

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, no, I think I'm I think I'm good,

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<v Speaker 7>Like that's it's a ten year run. Like I've given

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<v Speaker 7>you guys from seventeen to twenty seven, Like I I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Good, yeah, really great.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, as you know, I am a big Sharna for

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<v Speaker 5>fourth judge on Dancing with the Stars supporter.

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<v Speaker 7>Can I just say beforehand, you were really great on

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<v Speaker 7>the show. You were really fun, Like Sharna and I

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<v Speaker 7>were rooting for you through it all because it's not

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<v Speaker 7>it's not an easy thing to do, you know, being there,

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<v Speaker 7>Like people you assume that, oh, I dance all the time, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>it would just be fun, and it's like, no, it is.

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<v Speaker 7>Dancing with the Stars is the true technique of dancing.

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<v Speaker 7>And every time you get into a new dance style,

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<v Speaker 7>the technique changes, and the frame changes, and the posture changes,

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<v Speaker 7>and the heel or the totally changes. All of these

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<v Speaker 7>things happen, and you have this really short week to

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<v Speaker 7>master this thing and then be judged for it. When

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<v Speaker 7>you're live and your you're picked apart for like all

1:07:03.760 --> 1:07:06.720
<v Speaker 7>the little mistakes that you make, so you're rooting for

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<v Speaker 7>anybody that is doing it, and you were, Danielle. You

1:07:10.520 --> 1:07:13.880
<v Speaker 7>were so fun to watch and we really we really

1:07:14.040 --> 1:07:18.800
<v Speaker 7>rooted for you. But your commitment to it and you're

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<v Speaker 7>like true passion for doing it, and it was was

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<v Speaker 7>not lost. I don't think on anybody that watched it.

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<v Speaker 7>So so good for you for being there. As long

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<v Speaker 7>as you were, and for committing to it and doing

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<v Speaker 7>it because it's not it's not an easy thing at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. It was the time of my entire life.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved it so much.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean, that was so sweet. I was not

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<v Speaker 5>asking this question to get any sort of praise myself.

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<v Speaker 7>I praise I did.

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<v Speaker 8>I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just gonna accept it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to say thank you, but I'm asking wholeheartedly

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<v Speaker 5>as a fan.

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<v Speaker 4>How cool is your Wife's awesome? She's amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>She's an incredible teacher, she's a fantastic dancer, she's got

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<v Speaker 5>a great personality.

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<v Speaker 7>I just I told you it was an amazing human being.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, which is?

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<v Speaker 7>Which is? I think then what really translates to all

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<v Speaker 7>the other stuff like fourth chair? You know, she she

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<v Speaker 7>has a passion for constructive criticism, for like really understanding

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<v Speaker 7>the process of what someone is going through and really

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<v Speaker 7>trying to in the most positive way possible get explain

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<v Speaker 7>to people what the judges might be looking for or

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<v Speaker 7>what she saw or and and she it's funny we

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<v Speaker 7>would uh because we would always come by on tape

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<v Speaker 7>nights to kind of see everybody and encourage everyone, and

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<v Speaker 7>it the feedback that she got from so many people saying,

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<v Speaker 7>Oh no, we would watch Fourth Chair on Tuesday morning

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<v Speaker 7>and we would absolutely take to heart the things that

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<v Speaker 7>you would say because they would improve of what it

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<v Speaker 7>is we were doing. And she she was always about that.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like she wants to she wants to help people

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<v Speaker 7>with what it is she's saying. She doesn't she doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>ever want to just on someone for the purpose of

1:09:14.560 --> 1:09:18.559
<v Speaker 7>being on someone, Like she really wants to say things

1:09:18.640 --> 1:09:23.960
<v Speaker 7>that she hopes our light bulb moments where people go hmm, interesting. Yeah. Never,

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<v Speaker 7>I never thought about it that way. And she grew

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<v Speaker 7>up dancing. She's been dancing her entire life and she

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<v Speaker 7>loves it. And it wasn't until I did the show

1:09:33.400 --> 1:09:38.400
<v Speaker 7>that I really understood where where the passion and the

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<v Speaker 7>technique comes from and how much work goes into it.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, My last question for you. We've seen you

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<v Speaker 5>at conventions. You similarly to us, you are always paired

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<v Speaker 5>with Tory Spelling. Your characters are forever linked for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>What has it been like seeing the long lasting effects

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<v Speaker 5>of nine O two one Ozero and more specifically d

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<v Speaker 5>VID Silver, Like what kind of an impact that has

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<v Speaker 5>had on multiple generations incredibly humbling.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you guys know you're doing these conventions. Also

1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:16.479
<v Speaker 7>is it's so incredibly humbling when people come up to

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<v Speaker 7>the table and you can only give them fifteen twenty

1:10:20.840 --> 1:10:23.240
<v Speaker 7>seconds because you have to kind of keep it moving.

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<v Speaker 7>But if you give them your full attention during that

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<v Speaker 7>twenty seconds, how much of a change it can make

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<v Speaker 7>in their life and how much it means to them.

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<v Speaker 7>I always tell people like, it's not that hard to

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<v Speaker 7>be kind, to be nice to people. It's not that hard,

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<v Speaker 7>And so it blows my mind when people aren't, when

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<v Speaker 7>they just want to shuffle people through and sign stuff

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<v Speaker 7>and don't I don't understand that because that, honestly, to me,

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<v Speaker 7>in my mind, it takes more work than just being

1:11:02.600 --> 1:11:08.599
<v Speaker 7>being kind to people. Conventions are great because it's given

1:11:08.680 --> 1:11:10.960
<v Speaker 7>me a chance to travel around and really see the

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<v Speaker 7>impact of it and hear these stories from people that

1:11:13.640 --> 1:11:15.760
<v Speaker 7>are like, oh, I remember when I was in high

1:11:15.760 --> 1:11:17.320
<v Speaker 7>school and I was going through this, or I was

1:11:17.360 --> 1:11:20.080
<v Speaker 7>going through this really tough situation, or you know, I

1:11:20.880 --> 1:11:23.160
<v Speaker 7>watched your relationship and so I got a lot of

1:11:23.840 --> 1:11:27.000
<v Speaker 7>a lot of really great pointers and things from it,

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<v Speaker 7>and I use those in my own It's unbelievable because

1:11:30.400 --> 1:11:34.680
<v Speaker 7>to us, we were just kids making a show. You know.

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<v Speaker 7>The writers would hand us the script and we'd go

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<v Speaker 7>do the script, and then you finish it and you

1:11:39.360 --> 1:11:43.519
<v Speaker 7>move on. You never I never understood the impact of

1:11:43.640 --> 1:11:46.479
<v Speaker 7>what it was we were doing when we were doing it.

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<v Speaker 7>So to hear it now, you realize back then it

1:11:50.960 --> 1:11:53.600
<v Speaker 7>was just a job. Now I'm not getting paid the

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<v Speaker 7>same way for that job. I'm It's a different role

1:11:57.320 --> 1:12:00.160
<v Speaker 7>that I've stepped into, and I really enjoy it. I

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<v Speaker 7>really love it, like I really I as much as

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<v Speaker 7>it's bad for business when you get to your table

1:12:06.600 --> 1:12:08.400
<v Speaker 7>and you're like, yeah, there's not many people here, I

1:12:08.560 --> 1:12:11.960
<v Speaker 7>really enjoy the fact that I can spend time with

1:12:12.160 --> 1:12:17.080
<v Speaker 7>people and I do and we connect on I know

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<v Speaker 7>nothing about what it's like to grow up in Kentucky,

1:12:21.320 --> 1:12:24.360
<v Speaker 7>or what's around you, or what school was like for you,

1:12:24.720 --> 1:12:29.160
<v Speaker 7>or God, let's let's like chop it up a little bit,

1:12:29.320 --> 1:12:33.360
<v Speaker 7>let's get some really cool conversations going. Because it makes

1:12:33.400 --> 1:12:35.400
<v Speaker 7>me a better person. I come back home. It makes

1:12:35.400 --> 1:12:37.960
<v Speaker 7>me a better father, It makes me a better listener,

1:12:38.360 --> 1:12:42.599
<v Speaker 7>it makes it makes me more compassionate. It just makes

1:12:42.640 --> 1:12:47.479
<v Speaker 7>me a kinder human being because I am really listening

1:12:47.720 --> 1:12:51.280
<v Speaker 7>to people when I'm talking to them, and the stories

1:12:51.280 --> 1:12:54.800
<v Speaker 7>aren't that different. You know, our childhoods were different, and

1:12:55.000 --> 1:12:57.200
<v Speaker 7>some of the things we experienced and missed out on

1:12:57.640 --> 1:13:02.679
<v Speaker 7>were different, but they're all relative. We're all human beings

1:13:02.800 --> 1:13:04.760
<v Speaker 7>at the end of the day, all of us. We

1:13:05.160 --> 1:13:09.200
<v Speaker 7>all have these human experiences. So you know, like you said,

1:13:09.280 --> 1:13:11.559
<v Speaker 7>people look at us and go, how dare you complain

1:13:11.720 --> 1:13:14.040
<v Speaker 7>that it was hard because look at all you had?

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<v Speaker 7>But for us, completely different situation. Yeah, my high school

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<v Speaker 7>experience was in front of thirty million people every single

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<v Speaker 7>week I'm doing a show, so yeah, it was pretty

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<v Speaker 7>It was pretty tough for me as well. Money, different

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<v Speaker 7>situation life, sure, house and the cars and the stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's all relative, man, YEA, all relative. So we're

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<v Speaker 7>all human beings. Like I think, the more we can

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<v Speaker 7>all connect and just listen to each other and connect

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<v Speaker 7>with each other, the better equipped it makes us to

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<v Speaker 7>live within this melting pot of a world, which now

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<v Speaker 7>with the Internet, is more of a melting pot than ever.

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<v Speaker 7>So we should all continue to learn about each other's

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<v Speaker 7>cultures and backgrounds and countries and cities and states and

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<v Speaker 7>all of that, and like really connect on all of

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<v Speaker 7>the stories because we're not as different as we thought

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<v Speaker 7>we were when we were younger. It's all right here.

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<v Speaker 7>It's easy to get I can pick up my phone

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<v Speaker 7>and I can learn anything about anyone.

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<v Speaker 4>You know exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>I can ask chat GPT before I do an episode

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<v Speaker 7>of my podcast, literally get everything to ask and everything

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<v Speaker 7>to know.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, thank you so much for being here with us.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a pleasure talking with you. Really great to

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<v Speaker 5>get to know you better and hear more of your stories.

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<v Speaker 7>Look for seeing you guys again on the you know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's super fun. These conventions are super fun because I

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<v Speaker 7>get to run into people that either I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 7>in years yep, or meet people that I knew because

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<v Speaker 7>we were all in the same industry and I didn't

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<v Speaker 7>know personally.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really I really always say it's our high

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<v Speaker 1>school reunion.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it totally is. Yeah, it's these ridiculous weekends away

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<v Speaker 7>where it's like, God, I don't have to you know,

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<v Speaker 7>because I have four young kids at home. It's like

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<v Speaker 7>I don't. All of that kind of goes away and

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<v Speaker 7>we get to have fun dinners and share these fun

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<v Speaker 7>stories exactly and talk about how ridiculous our lives were

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<v Speaker 7>and the fact that we're all that we're all here

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<v Speaker 7>together and we're like, thank God, happy and healthy and

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<v Speaker 7>doing this and connecting with people.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll see you with them all.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, social start social for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for being here.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>Gus talk soon.

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<v Speaker 7>Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 3>What a good guy man.

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