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Speaker 5: While we tried to dance on a pool table for

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Speaker 5: Please no until Joey Lawrence I said that it's Brian

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Speaker 7: I did a pilot with Joey Lawrence. That's how we

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Speaker 7: How did you know that it was a pilot? Nobody

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Speaker 5: Well, I do think it's pretty InCred that you, Juliel,

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Speaker 7: Stuff like that. You should put the coffee down.

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Speaker 7: Yes, And we had been rehearsing and then we did

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Speaker 6: But I I do just want you to know Michael

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Speaker 5: World, so that's a and threatened to fire me after

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Speaker 6: And you have to eat like and and he would

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Speaker 7: A lifetime I can't wait to tell my therapist that.

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Speaker 1: Brian, you did small wonder. You don't have to apologize it.

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Speaker 7: didn't know what all that entailed. I realized that is

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00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 7: a terrible thing to wish upon anybody. But yeah, it

445
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 7: was when when I just so, my mom had a

446
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 7: whole name planned for me when she was pregnant and

447
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,959
Speaker 7: I was I had really broad shoulders as a as

448
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 7: a baby, so she had a real hard time in labor.

449
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 7: And my dad, who smoked a lot of pot at

450
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 7: this point in life. While my mom was in the

451
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 7: middle of labor, he came forward, and he was like,

452
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 7: can we name him Brian? I'm alm was like, name

453
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 7: him whatever the fuck you want, just get us get

454
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,479
Speaker 7: out of me. And that was literally the only name

455
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 7: he came up with. He came up with no middle name,

456
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 7: no anything, that was just Brian Green. And then all

457
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 7: of a sudden, sag is going out. There's another Brian

458
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 7: Green in the union. So you have to come up

459
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 7: with a middle name, and Brian Green is not a

460
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 7: very easy name to come up with a middle name

461
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 7: for where the whole thing flows very well. We almost

462
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 7: named me Brian Peter Green, after my mom's dad, but

463
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 7: then my initial would have been Peace. It was Brian p. Green.

464
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 7: We were like, good start that does that'll that'll make

465
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 7: him break a career. So that so we went through

466
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 7: a bunch of names and we ended up going through

467
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 7: the map and Austin, Yeah, yeah, you could.

468
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 4: Have gone with like Willie broad Shoulders.

469
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: I couldn't have.

470
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Speaker 7: I don't know how well my co would have done, but.

471
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Speaker 1: That's r get this kid out of me Green. Yeah,

472
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: Brian name and whatever the you want.

473
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 7: Skills are incredible, This podcast is done. You should just

474
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 7: be writing books of what we're gonna do. Yeah, right,

475
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 7: I'm already on the third one. What are you talking about?

476
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 7: Does this still happen?

477
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 3: Are there still actors having to have three names? Because

478
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: it was such an but I don't hear about it

479
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: that much anymore, Like, no.

480
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 7: It's absolutely it's you can't be you can't be in

481
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 7: the I don't think you can be in the union

482
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 7: with the same name as somebody else. I think you

483
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 7: have to have some sort of thing that differentiates so

484
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 7: they can keep track of checks when they come in,

485
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 7: they can monitor they you know, do all the stuff

486
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 7: that they that they as a union do. So strange.

487
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you joined SAG and then shortly thereafter you

488
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 5: start booking a lot of different shows. You book a

489
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 5: big recurring role on Knat's Landing and you become a

490
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 5: bit of like a child actor VET At this point,

491
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 5: did it.

492
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 4: Feel like something big was coming? Like did you always have.

493
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 7: That viewing it was in my or scrubs? You know,

494
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 7: it was no, So no, because the uh, the business

495
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 7: was really small when I was young. There were probably

496
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 7: thirty kids total, so we would all see each other

497
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 7: at all the auditions and stuff. So it was myself

498
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 7: and Seth Green and DiCaprio and Toby maguire and like

499
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 7: we had this small group and we all knew each other,

500
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 7: so there was no competition between anybody. It was sort

501
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 7: of like, oh, you're looking for a little redhead kid.

502
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 7: Oh well, then Seth is your guy. Like I don't

503
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 7: even know why I'm in here, and I was like,

504
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 7: go get him, Seth. Like we were all we were

505
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 7: all rooting for each other. But the the business it

506
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 7: set there wasn't. Honestly, I don't. I really don't think

507
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 7: it was until nine o two one oh that there

508
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 7: were shows that were really rooted around young young kids, teenagers,

509
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 7: high schoolers, you know, middle schoolers. So at that point

510
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 7: kids were getting parts in adult shows. All the shows

511
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 7: that we were that I was doing was NOTTS landing

512
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 7: adult shows. I would come through with like a every

513
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 7: once in a while just to show that, like, you know,

514
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 7: the character had a kid, right, That's all I was

515
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 7: there for. And then all of a sudden that shifted,

516
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 7: and then it became kids were actually the leads of things,

517
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 7: and things were really like aggressively shifting, you know, because

518
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 7: Boy Meets World, you guys were really like on the

519
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 7: cusp the ground. You were groundbreaking as far as what

520
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 7: it was you were doing. You know, the business has

521
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 7: changed so much, so I had no I had no

522
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 7: sense back then of that this was going to be

523
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 7: my career. Like I grew up in music, right, so

524
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 7: I thought, oh, Okay, I'm making some good money doing this,

525
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 7: but I'm going to be a drummer, you know, in

526
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 7: a band and that and that's it. There was nobody

527
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 7: else in my family that had ever been acting before.

528
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 7: I had nobody to sort of learn from or bounce

529
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 7: ideas off of, or anybody that I had seen succeed

530
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 7: in it. I didn't know anybody in it. I grew

531
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 7: up in North Hollywood and it was I went to

532
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 7: music academies and these performing art schools and it was

533
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 7: like fame. So we were all like playing instruments and

534
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 7: doing all this stuff. And I had no idea that

535
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 7: the like student films and the commercials that I did

536
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 7: as a kid would take over my life and become

537
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 7: my career. I never had any idea. How did you

538
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 7: think about acting itself?

539
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: Then?

540
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: Did you think of it was like, oh, just a job,

541
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: had to show up. It was like kind of like

542
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 3: my model. Ye think I was like a craft that

543
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: you had to work on.

544
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 7: I didn't understand the craft side of it like I had.

545
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 7: For me, my passion had always been music, right, my

546
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 7: dad's a.

547
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: Drummer, because you said you had nobody in your family

548
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: that were My dad.

549
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 7: Is a drummer. He was touring with Glenn Campbell when

550
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 7: I was born. He was doing like Rhyanstone, Cowboy and

551
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 7: all that, and then he stopped touring when I was

552
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 7: about two and a half because he wanted to be

553
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 7: home more. So he started doing all studio stuff. He

554
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 7: played on like Frank Sinatra's albums and Doobie Brothers and

555
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 7: all sorts of really cool stuff. And I went to

556
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 7: these amazing performing art schools for music. I had to

557
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 7: like audition to get in. I remember in jazz band.

558
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 7: I went to Hamilton High for high school to begin,

559
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 7: and then I was failing everything because I was working

560
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 7: so much, and I ended up graduating from North Hollywood High.

561
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 7: But one of the guys that I was in jazz

562
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 7: band with, his name is Abel Borel Junior. He plays

563
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 7: drums for Paul McCartney. Like it's I grew up with.

564
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 7: I grew surrounded by all these people that were really,

565
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 7: really good and what it is they were doing. So

566
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 7: when I started doing commercials, I hadn't ever met anybody

567
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 7: that was doing it successfully where I was like, oh

568
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 7: my god, it can lead to this. I had no

569
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 7: idea what the end goal of it was, so to me,

570
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 7: that was kind of a fun thing. You sort of

571
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 7: show up and you eat crackers or YouTube, gut whatever

572
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 7: it is that you know, you play volleyball in a

573
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 7: tank to like whatever it is they're asking of you,

574
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 7: and then you go home. And then I would go

575
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 7: home and play music and skateboard and do the stuff

576
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 7: that I was really passionate about doing and loved doing

577
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 7: at the time. Wow, that's so funny.

578
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 4: It was similar for me too.

579
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: You know.

580
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 5: I also didn't understand it as a craft, nor did

581
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 5: I understand it as a business. It was just like

582
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 5: you know, and my family didn't really quite understand it either.

583
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 5: So I think that you're you're not alone there.

584
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 7: Yeah. My family was like my mom was my business manager,

585
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 7: my dad was my manager, and everybody was like learning

586
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 7: as they were, right, and no one.

587
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 4: Had an experience or education in it.

588
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 7: Yeah.

589
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, So along comes the Beverly Hills nine O two

590
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 5: one Oho audition and it's an Aaron Spelling show.

591
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 4: Was that intimidating.

592
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 7: No, I had no idea who he was, Okay, not

593
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 7: a clue. I literally had zero. Everyone was like, oh

594
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 7: my god, it's Aaron Spelling. I was like, I don't

595
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 7: know who that is. And then they were like, oh,

596
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 7: he did love Boat, and like they started naming all

597
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 7: the shows and I was like, oh my god, I

598
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 7: know those shows, but I didn't know who played what

599
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 7: role in pre production or any like. I didn't know

600
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 7: that TV producers were as big as they were at

601
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 7: that point they were putting these projects. I had no idea. Yeah,

602
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 7: I was like, oh boy, lucky him. He jumped on

603
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 7: board this love Boat thing. I didn't know. I didn't

604
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 7: know that he was creating these things and putting these

605
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 7: teams together and making these happen. I remember all of

606
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 7: the auditions that I had were in his office, which

607
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 7: was really incredible, Like it was massive, and he had

608
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 7: this huge, like twenty five foot long couch and this

609
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 7: crazy with like pinball machines. But he was this incredibly

610
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 7: kind guy. So it was I'd been doing this at

611
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 7: this point. I was sixteen when I went into audition.

612
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 7: I started acting when I was nine, so like I was.

613
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 7: I walked in the room and I was like, I've

614
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 7: been in a million of these rooms, Like this doesn't

615
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 7: intimidate me at all. It's a really cool office. You

616
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 7: seem like a really nice guy, like this is this

617
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 7: is cool. And then the fact that the script was

618
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 7: about like like high junior high, high school kids. I

619
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 7: was like, oh, this is pretty cool, Like I can

620
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 7: I can do this. You know. I knew Doug Emerson

621
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 7: at the time. We had been acting together, so I

622
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 7: read with him when we were in there, and we

623
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 7: had chemistry from knowing each other. So it just sort

624
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 7: of it all happened really fast, and it didn't. There

625
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 7: wasn't really much magic to it at that point. You know,

626
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 7: the auditioning process.

627
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: It's not this.

628
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 7: Magical thing where you're like, oh my god, I booked

629
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 7: this pilot. I feel like this is the one, Like

630
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 7: you sort of you book a pilot and you go

631
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 7: I've read better. Yeah you know, I'll do it.

632
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, yeah, I was f Yi.

633
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 5: I was famously not allowed to watch nine O two

634
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 5: one oh as a kid, so I eventually had.

635
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 4: To do a lot of catch up.

636
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 7: So good parenting.

637
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, my parents were like absolutely not my parents.

638
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. The whole family would get together and

639
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,239
Speaker 1: watching nine O two and oh.

640
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 7: So there it's crazy crazy.

641
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 5: In the first season, you played a bit of an

642
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 5: outcast on the show, not yet like really in the

643
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 5: friend group, sort of peering in from the outside. Was

644
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 5: that also what was going on when the cameras were

645
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 5: off or were you guys all close right off the bat?

646
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 6: Uh?

647
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 7: We were pretty close right off the bat. I mean,

648
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 7: I so I had known Shannon for years from when

649
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 7: she was doing Little House on the Prairie and Our House,

650
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 7: that show with Chad Allen and Wiff Grimley. I had

651
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 7: funny enough, I did. So I knew Doug. We had

652
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 7: known each other for years from commercials and everything Luke

653
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 7: and I had done. We did a Doctor Pepper a

654
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 7: commercial literally like four weeks before I booked the pilot

655
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 7: and started doing that, and then he came on and

656
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 7: we were like, holy, like a drive in theater doing

657
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 7: this Doctor Pepper commercial.

658
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 6: Wow.

659
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 7: So we got along really well, and it was it

660
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 7: was fun because we were all young and so it

661
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 7: was kind of cool and we were on these locations

662
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 7: and it was really fun and we got to kind

663
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 7: of be silly and Dopey together. David Silver was really

664
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 7: was really fun when the show started, and the character

665
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 7: was that way because it was I wasn't necessarily in

666
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 7: school like a nerd like that, but I was really small.

667
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 7: I had tons of energy, so I was like hyper

668
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 7: and obnoxious to people that I was around, and I

669
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 7: didn't really have a specific friend group. I sort of

670
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 7: bounced around from group to group to group, like I

671
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 7: hung out with skaters, I hung out with, you know,

672
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 7: kids that were in band class with me. Like I

673
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 7: was sort of all over the place. But David Silver

674
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 7: was really fun because we it became this like goal

675
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 7: of ours to come up with the most ridiculous things

676
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 7: that we could. So we would we would find really

677
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 7: crazy swaths of material and they would make pants and

678
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 7: like all like we had all of these crazy we

679
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 7: would put buttons all over things, and it was really

680
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 7: fun because it was completely different from the world that

681
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 7: I was living in at that point. So then as

682
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 7: the show went on and it started as it does,

683
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 7: the you know the two start combining, yep, and it

684
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 7: then it became harder. It became harder for me. I

685
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 7: don't know how it was for you guys. How old

686
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 7: were you when you started doing the show twelve you

687
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 7: were twelve.

688
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: I was sixteen.

689
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: I was in the middle so I didn't and to

690
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: hang out with them and too young to hang out

691
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: with the adults.

692
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 7: How long did you do the show? For?

693
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: Years?

694
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 7: So you know, like that is that's that period in

695
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 7: your life where you're like really sort of figuring out

696
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 7: who you are. You're insecure about all sorts of things.

697
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 7: But then you're going through all of that in front

698
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 7: of everybody, and it is and as soon as your

699
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 7: actual life starts crossing with that, then you start becoming

700
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 7: insecure with who you are at home compared to this

701
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 7: is writers.

702
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 4: This is exactly writer's life. Yeah.

703
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the writers start borrowing from your life.

704
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 7: To you know, they have to. You're writing for kids,

705
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 7: do better to research than you in your life outside

706
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 7: of it. Oh my god, he's really into music, he's

707
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 7: really into ooh. Let's start incorporating those things. And then

708
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, you're you know, you're bringing your

709
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 7: own things from home to work, and as soon as

710
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 7: somebody says they don't like it, you're like, oh my god,

711
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 7: but I made that at home, Like this is now,

712
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 7: how do I separate this, you start feeling like, oh,

713
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 7: people just don't like me, and it's and you know,

714
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 7: as an adult mind, I can grasp the concept of

715
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 7: people watching and how it works and that they don't

716
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 7: realize all of these things are coming from my home.

717
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 7: But when you're young and you're already feeling scrutinized just

718
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 7: because that's part of growing up, then that the life

719
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 7: that we lived at a young age, it's a hard

720
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 7: thing to do. Yes, it's a real hard thing to do,

721
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 7: and I give a lot of credit to people that

722
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 7: made it out of it.

723
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: You know. Well, there's also an interesting aspect to it

724
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: because you're you're also expected not to complain about it

725
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form, because you're lucky that

726
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: you're getting a chance to even be doing this work.

727
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: So the idea that it's difficult in any way, shape

728
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: or form, it's like other people your age, especially like,

729
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: how dare you think that something bad could come from this?

730
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, I'm still growing up and living

731
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: my life.

732
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's all relative. Like I you know, I would

733
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 7: hear that all the time, and I of course didn't

734
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 7: understand that completely because I was living in it. So

735
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 7: for people that had that view. I'm in a completely

736
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 7: different place than than you are, So you can speak

737
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 7: from your side of it. I'm speaking from my side

738
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 7: of it, and they're two completely different things and both

739
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 7: can exist at the same time. Like people, people get

740
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 7: caught up in this concept of emotion is mutually exclusive,

741
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 7: like you either if you are jealous of somebody, then

742
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 7: you're just jealous. It's like, well, no, I can love

743
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 7: somebody and be happy for them and then be jealous

744
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 7: of them at the same time. Right, that's okay, that's

745
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 7: all right to have both of those things going. But

746
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 7: people don't completely get that, and they feel guilty when

747
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 7: they feel like, oh my god, this is my best friend,

748
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 7: but I'm jealous because they're getting this opportunity and I

749
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 7: so wish that I had it. So then they start

750
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 7: stuffing that and it creates it creates all of these

751
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 7: all these problems. Believe me, it was my therapist that

752
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 7: point that point of this stuff out. Yeah this isn't like,

753
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 7: oh my god, I'm a genius, and so I came

754
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 7: up with this myself, like my fa you know.

755
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, we were We've all been in therapy.

756
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 7: It's just a part of it. We'll kind to it.

757
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 7: We're all we're all child actors. Yeah, exactly, if we're

758
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 7: surviving now we've gone through therapy.

759
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's accurate.

760
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 5: I think your big moment on the show as it's

761
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 5: building its audience in season two, ends up becoming part

762
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: of the nine O two one zero folklore Forever, and

763
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 5: it's the episode that is called the Next forty Years

764
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 5: and your best friend Scott accidentally shoots himself at his

765
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 5: sixteenth birthday party.

766
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 4: It was a very intense episode.

767
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: Growing up watching nine to two and zero with my family,

768
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: I remember the announcement that a character was going to die.

769
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: Really, oh yeah, this was a thing.

770
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 4: Well yeah, of course.

771
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 5: It was very intense and nothing like that had ever

772
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 5: been done for kids or teens before. Do you remember

773
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: finding out that that episode was going to happen? Did

774
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 5: they talk to you about it ahead of time?

775
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 8: What was that like?

776
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 7: Yeah? They that was That was a really tough point.

777
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 7: It was absolutely for me, absolutely bittersweet. Like I they

778
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 7: started putting David and Donna together and they realized like, oh,

779
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 7: this is kind of a fun duo and this thing

780
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 7: and so maybe we have David du summer school. So

781
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 7: he can then be in the same grade as all

782
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 7: these kids. But then they they were like, okay, well

783
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 7: then these two kids, these two guys, we can't have

784
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 7: both of them, Like it doesn't make any sense. So

785
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 7: they came up with this idea of Doug unfortunately having

786
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 7: to do that, and I remember getting the script and

787
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 7: being shocked, being happy again and two emotions at the

788
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 7: same time. Happy it wasn't me, but then really really

789
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 7: sad that it was him because the show was really

790
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 7: blowing up at that point and we all knew it.

791
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 7: So to then have to say to him, like, okay,

792
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 7: thanks for being here in the beginning, and you know,

793
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 7: we're going to take it from here really really hard.

794
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 7: Like we had done all the cast photos and the things,

795
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 7: and he was in all the stuff, and then all

796
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 7: of a sudden, he's not there. I remember his he

797
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 7: and his mom had rewritten that scene where he doesn't

798
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 7: get shot, like you know, it was it was like

799
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 7: sort of a joke thing, but I think that there

800
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 7: was a part of it that was kind.

801
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: Of, oh, yeah, no, thanks for playing drums peep, but

802
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: we just met someone named Ringo.

803
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 7: Exactly yeah, exactly perfect. But it was no.

804
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean, my friends were there were conversations.

805
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: People were talking because they set it up as someone's

806
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: gonna dieferent pictures on the screen, so people were talking

807
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: about like.

808
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 7: Who do you They were saying one of one of

809
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 7: the characters you love is gonna die or like it

810
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 7: was something like that, yes, and god, who.

811
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: Who do you think it's gonna be? And why is

812
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: it going to happen? And but and so yeah, there was.

813
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: It was a whole thing basically, did.

814
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 7: You put your money on anyone going We knew.

815
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: We knew who was gonna I mean, I think most

816
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: people knew who was gonna go Me it was like no,

817
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: but you kind of you hate to say it was.

818
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: The way they built it up was great.

819
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 2: But there was one character that if you had to

820
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: lift quote unquote lift them out of the script, there

821
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: was one that lifted out because you did.

822
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 7: Right. Nobody likes the megabird, but no, we saw it.

823
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: They they were clearly aging you up. I mean, it

824
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: was clear that they were aging you up. They were

825
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: putting you with the Donna character.

826
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 7: And they were and they started incorporating these things where

827
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 7: David and Scott were like not seeing an eye on things,

828
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 7: and they were kind of arguing, and Scott came back

829
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 7: from summer break with like the cowboy hat on and

830
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 7: all this stuff, and like they really really went for

831
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 7: like okay, these two are completely different, Like they really

832
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 7: leaned into it. I remember because I saw him in

833
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 7: the cowboy hat when he came back the stets and

834
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 7: I was like, oh my god, that is a big hat. Yeah,

835
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 7: like they it was like it wasn't hard enough to

836
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 7: read the script to have to read the script with

837
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 7: that big stetson on your head. Oh my god, not

838
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 7: only are they getting rid of me, but look at

839
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 7: this ridiculous wardrobe.

840
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: Look at this the moogue and I.

841
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: Remember the big monologue and then my friend thinks he's

842
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: a cowboy and shoots himself in the stomach.

843
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: Like I remember, all this was.

844
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: Is this for for a generation of TV watchers? This

845
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: was an important television moment?

846
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 7: It really was. It was Yeah, yeah, crazy. Looking back

847
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 7: on it now, it's you realize like, oh my god,

848
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 7: that's we started a lot.

849
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

850
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 2: This was Dudley getting molested in the back of the

851
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: bike shop. On different strokes, like okay, there's a there's

852
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: a bunch of different television moments for a kid that

853
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: stick out in the refrigerator, the refrigerator.

854
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is another one of those

855
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: moments that sticks with you. It really does.

856
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure.

857
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 5: Well at this point now nine o two one, omnia

858
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 5: is in full effect. When did you first know this

859
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 5: was going to be much more than just one of

860
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 5: those other pilots or shows you had done?

861
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 7: We did? We did grad night at Disneyland. Oh yeah,

862
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 7: and just to completely date myself and when this was

863
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 7: another bad creation, was there so cool there? And we

864
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 7: were we were doing an appearance on the Tomorrowland Terrace,

865
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 7: that stage that comes up out of the ground, and

866
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 7: so we were down in sort of the bowels of

867
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 7: Disney and the tunnels, the underground crazy system where Mickey

868
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 7: walks around with no costume, head on and stuff like that.

869
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 7: It's really if you're young, it's shocking. Yes, I was. Really.

870
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 7: It was a lot for me to take years of

871
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 7: therapy to get over that.

872
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 4: You were a teenager.

873
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 7: But still, you know, Mickey held a special place in

874
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 7: my heart, and so I was. I was a bit devastating,

875
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 7: just a bit. And so Wilson Phillips were up above

876
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 7: and they were performing a song and the crowd was

877
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 7: going crazy, as I assumed they would. I was like,

878
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 7: oh my god, Wilson Phillips are out there. This is crazy.

879
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 7: And so they were done, and then the crowd start

880
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 7: screaming again. So I was like, oh my god, they

881
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 7: must be doing like an encore, something going, you know,

882
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 7: something going on. So as a cast, we had this

883
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 7: really stupid idea of like, hey, when the stage comes

884
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 7: down and we're supposed to get on, we'll get on,

885
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 7: but we'll all hide. So when the stage comes up,

886
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 7: there's nobody on the stage. It looks like they've said,

887
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 7: you know, this empty stage back up. So we did

888
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 7: that and it came up and everybody was a bit

889
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 7: kind of quiet, and and then we all popped out

890
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 7: and the crowd went bananas. And that was the first

891
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 7: time we realized, like, oh my god, all of these

892
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 7: kids are watching our show and loving it. And it

893
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 7: was a sea of kids.

894
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 8: Wow.

895
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 7: Leading up to that, it had been stuff here and there,

896
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 7: like you know, a car full of girls with their

897
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 7: parents at the gas station, Oh my god, are you

898
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 7: on that show?

899
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: And you know and all that.

900
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 7: But that was the first real like oh my beatle

901
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 7: feeling moment. I mean, we came from New Kids on

902
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 7: the block were on the cover of every magazine, So

903
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 7: all of a sudden be having these moments where it's like, God,

904
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 7: I've seen this before, yeah, and now we are in

905
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 7: the shoes of these people that are like running to

906
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 7: chain link fences and running down lines to jump into

907
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 7: a van for the door to close, to get out

908
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 7: of the way. It was. It was really surreal for me.

909
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 7: Like I remember Ian and I took a trip to

910
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 7: Spain at one point to promote the show, and there

911
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 7: were fifteen thousand people in the airport in Spain. Oh,

912
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 7: they had to shut down the airport. Shut down the

913
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 7: airport like that, had no flights. We we ruined people's days,

914
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 7: you know. I'm sure all the parents were like, yes,

915
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 7: but it was bananas. And they they sent lookalikes out

916
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 7: one door to sort of move the crowd so we

917
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 7: could get out. We were on the freeway and kids

918
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 7: were running across the freeway. We got to the hotel,

919
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 7: went to sleep because it was such a long flight.

920
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 7: Got up the next morning and I opened the window

921
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 7: to my room and there were thousands of people down

922
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 7: on the street. And it felt like when you'd see

923
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 7: the videos of Michael Jackson or Madonna or whatever, you

924
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 7: know out of the country and that on that pandemonium

925
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 7: on the street, and all of a sudden I was

926
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 7: in that. It was it was like, oh my god,

927
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 7: what is happening?

928
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: Well, I remember it made the news when Luke Perry

929
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: went to a mall and he was there for like

930
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 2: thirty seconds and they had to escort him out because

931
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 2: they thought people were gonna die, Like literally thought people.

932
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 7: Were They would do crazy things like sneak us into

933
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 7: like laundry, the rolling laundry baskets and stuff and like

934
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 7: put clothes up because we were doing these mall appearances.

935
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 7: But these stores are in the middle of the mall, right,

936
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 7: so you have to go through the mall to get

937
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 7: to Sam Hoodie or you know forever, like these store pennies.

938
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 7: Like it was I forget what stores they were at

939
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 7: that point, but nobody thought about that. They would fill

940
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 7: them all with thousands of people and then it's like, oh, yeah,

941
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 7: how are we going to get yeah it out for

942
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 7: these appearances. They didn't think that through, so they would

943
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 7: have to get us through these crowds. And at that

944
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 7: point it was all young girls, so it was just

945
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 7: streaming and pandemonium, and no, we ever did this.

946
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: We never did what were mall appearances?

947
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: All appearances?

948
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: You just don't I did, took you and.

949
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: You sign on it and people, are you getting paid?

950
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: Is it like a convention?

951
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 7: Okay, it was like a convention, but you're paid by

952
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 7: the store, and the store would end up getting thousands

953
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 7: of people running through it just sign stuff.

954
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: I guess we did.

955
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 7: We did that one right, But they would they wouldn't

956
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 7: pay for autographs. They would just pay us a flat

957
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 7: fee to go do these. We did a bunch of

958
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 7: car shows, there were things like that, and I remember

959
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 7: like it those It was the same thing. They would

960
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 7: just pay you a flat fee and then you'd go

961
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 7: and you just signed as many autographs as you could

962
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 7: over the course of a day or two days, and

963
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 7: you'd go home. It wasn't like conventions are now.

964
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: Well, no, I remember distinctly.

965
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: It was nineteen ninety four and my roommate at the time,

966
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: uh he and I decided to go to Europe. So

967
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: we're on a train and we're going where We're sitting

968
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: in a train car and two German girls who are

969
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: teenagers sit across from and of course what you do

970
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: in Europe. They start drinking beers and we start talking

971
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 2: and I said, so you know what you watch television?

972
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: They both perked up. Of course we do. I said,

973
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: what's what's your favorite show? And they both went nine

974
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: O two one oh.

975
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: And they were behind in the seasons coming out because

976
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 2: in Germany they were getting him a little late.

977
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: And as a joke, I said, oh, so is Dylan

978
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: still alive in the seasons that you're doing and the

979
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,479
Speaker 1: dick burst into tears.

980
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 7: Of course you crushed the car and I was like,

981
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I'm sorry crush.

982
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: The girls burst into tears. This is this is again

983
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: Germany in the nineties, and they were freaking out and just.

984
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 5: Arm just like you wish I on Brian Green will

985
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 5: carries this karma with him forever.

986
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable though how important it was. I mean

987
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: the girl literally burst into tears, thinking wonderful favorite characters.

988
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 7: Crazy, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah, what thing to do? It

989
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 7: was great? Yeah?

990
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 5: Do you have any idea One more storyline I want

991
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 5: to ask you about. Do you have any idea where

992
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 5: exchange and egg to find a rave? Do you have

993
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 5: any idea where that may have have come from. Do

994
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 5: you remember that storyline.

995
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 7: I think that was a thing at that time time.

996
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 7: I think when raves were going on, they would see

997
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 7: they would make them really secretive. So it was like

998
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 7: you had to go to this liquor store at this time,

999
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 7: and nobody knew the location of any of these things.

1000
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 7: So I think that's what made the raves at that

1001
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 7: point really cool, was that if you didn't know and

1002
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 7: they didn't somebody didn't send you to this liquor store

1003
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 7: to get this information, then you wouldn't be there and

1004
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 7: you would be able to find it. Yeah, and these

1005
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 7: parties were they were massive, these raves, and they went

1006
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 7: they were like these after hours things. Uh, it was

1007
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 7: way before the drug The drugs were really involved in

1008
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 7: all of them, and it was just this kind of fun,

1009
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 7: cool late night thing for kids to do. So the

1010
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 7: writers I think stole that idea from actual.

1011
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 4: Culture at the time.

1012
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: As the show became more popular and you were growing

1013
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: up as a cast, were you allowed any kind of

1014
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: creative input to what was happening in the show or.

1015
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 7: Tons tons great? Yeah, yeah, they were Wow, that's so great.

1016
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 7: They were not. They they completely understood the concept of

1017
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 7: we will be writing these based on real things that

1018
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 7: you guys are doing. They were I mean we were

1019
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 7: doing thirty four episodes a season at the height of

1020
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 7: that show. Wosh, we did over three We did no,

1021
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 7: just under three hundred episodes in ten It was it

1022
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 7: was really we worked constantly. We we shot ten out

1023
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 7: of twelve months a year, which is by the cast

1024
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 7: of our show if you watch. We didn't really have

1025
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 7: a chance to go do films because we didn't have

1026
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 7: enough time. So we did a lot of these movies

1027
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 7: of the weeks at that point because they shoot them

1028
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 7: in eighteen days, right, so it was you kind of

1029
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 7: prepare and because there were again only a few networks,

1030
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 7: these movie of the weeks were massive at that point.

1031
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 7: That was like the payday for actors. It was like,

1032
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 7: oh my god, I'm going to go to Canada and

1033
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 7: you know, nobody was in Canada, like there were there

1034
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 7: were like five actors there. Like it really movie of

1035
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 7: the weeks I think, or what started, uh, the Canadian

1036
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 7: film industry. I don't know that as a fact, but

1037
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 7: I'm going to speak about.

1038
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: It like say it.

1039
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, man.

1040
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 5: Another aspect of your character bleeding into real life with

1041
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 5: who you were as a person involves your rap album

1042
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 5: One Stop Carnival.

1043
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: I have heard many stories out of the ballistics young

1044
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 4: Hollywood era, and I feel like this is part of it.

1045
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 4: Can you tell our listeners what ballistics was?

1046
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 7: So wow ballistics. So I was really good friends with

1047
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 7: David Faustino, who played Bud Bundy on Mary with Children,

1048
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 7: and we were friends with Nick Adler, who is Lou

1049
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 7: Adler's son. Lou Adler was the manager of the Mamas

1050
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 7: and the Papas. He owns the Whiskey, he owns the

1051
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 7: Rainbow and on the Rocks he no, he owns the rocks.

1052
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 7: He and on the rocks in the Rainbow room next

1053
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 7: to it, like he wise, that really built Sunset. So

1054
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 7: they decided like, hey, we're gonna throw this hip hop

1055
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 7: club at the Whiskey, which was just unheard of, Like

1056
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 7: the Whiskey was a rock place, there was there never

1057
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 7: been hip hop in there before. So they started They

1058
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 7: were like spray painting tarps to hang up inside and

1059
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 7: they like it was it was a true legitimate hip

1060
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 7: hop spot, but it was it was hip hop for

1061
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 7: young Hollywood people that were in town. But it was

1062
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 7: really the start of something because you know, hip hop

1063
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 7: was really growing at that point, and it had grown

1064
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 7: from just being this art form that breakdancing grew out

1065
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 7: of to really becoming this true music art form in

1066
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 7: itself and coming from music myself. I was a big

1067
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 7: lover of jazz, so it was an easy crossover for

1068
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 7: me because it was like, oh my god, so much

1069
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 7: jazz was being sampled and redone in hip hop. That's

1070
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 7: kind of a lot of it grew out of that.

1071
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 7: So ballistics kind of went along along with this natural

1072
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 7: love of hip hop for us anyway, and then it

1073
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 7: just continued to grow. I was really in the hip

1074
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 7: hop scene that was in the nineties, that was and

1075
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 7: it still is. That's my heart. My love is hip hop,

1076
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 7: is that culture, is all the music that came out

1077
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 7: of the out of that decade. That was my decade.

1078
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 7: So I started I was promoting clubs myself, like early nineties,

1079
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 7: I was promoting one at Bar one that that was

1080
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 7: really big. Then I started doing a hip hop club

1081
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 7: at the corner of Santa Monica and Vine up in

1082
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 7: the tower. We had the entire penthouse floor. It was

1083
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 7: called green Light, and it was at the point when

1084
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 7: hip hop was massive and we had literally anybody across

1085
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 7: the country that was in hip hop. So Jermaine Dupre

1086
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 7: whenever he was in town, was up there, Puffy was

1087
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 7: up there, Guru would be up there and he'd be

1088
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 7: like freestyling for hours. Buster Rhymes came and like performed Wuha.

1089
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 7: When it first came out, like we had literally anybody

1090
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 7: that was in town, and it was this really incredible

1091
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 7: spot where the elevator doors opened up and we had

1092
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 7: two sides to it, so I did all. I had

1093
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 7: a DJ playing all just classic jazz on one side

1094
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 7: and then the other side was all hip hop. So

1095
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 7: ye on the jazz side, you heard the stuff that

1096
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 7: was then sampled and was playing there was really cool

1097
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 7: and it was and to me, I just wanted to

1098
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 7: build a place where it was all the music that

1099
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 7: I loved, but I could like get out any door

1100
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 7: if I ever had to get out, Like it was

1101
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 7: just safe. It was a safe place for me. I

1102
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 7: was doing a lot of music at home at the

1103
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 7: same time, and a friend of mine who was a

1104
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 7: piano player and a songwriter, his name was Ralph. He

1105
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 7: he was everything was on cassette at this point, and

1106
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 7: Babyface was looking for new producers to have within his

1107
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 7: in his camp. So my buddy Ralph sent his tape

1108
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 7: over there of a bunch of stuff that he had done,

1109
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 7: and a couple of the songs that were on this

1110
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 7: tape were things that I had done just sort of

1111
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 7: for fun. I had a group. And so Babyface said

1112
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 7: to him, Oh, I really liked this song, and my

1113
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 7: buddy Ralph was like, oh, I didn't do that. My

1114
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 7: friend Brian did that one. Babyface was like, oh, well,

1115
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 7: this is a don't think this is lost on me too.

1116
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 7: Like Babyface was saying he was the king of the

1117
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 7: world at this point, and he was like, oh, I

1118
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 7: really liked this song, and Ralph was like, oh, I

1119
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 7: didn't do that one either. My buddy Brian did. Cut

1120
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 7: to Ralph says to me, hey, Babyface wants to have

1121
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 7: dinner with you with his wife. Like no way. I

1122
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 7: was before punk. So I was like, I can't like this.

1123
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 7: Isn't you know this. There's gotta be some validity to this.

1124
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 7: So I went, I had dinner and it was sure enough.

1125
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 7: It was Babyface and his wife sitting across from me

1126
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 7: at the at the dinner table, and we were talking

1127
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 7: about music, and he said, you know, I'm starting a

1128
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 7: new label. He already had the face going at that point.

1129
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 7: He was like, I can't have two labels, so this

1130
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 7: new one, my wife is gonna run and that, but

1131
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 7: I will kind of be underneath it all sort of

1132
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 7: you know, pulling, pulling the strings and you know, puppeteering

1133
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 7: the whole thing, and we want you to be on

1134
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 7: this label. I was like, are you serious, Like i'd know,

1135
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 7: I had no intention of ever doing an album. I

1136
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 7: was like, I loved hip hop, I loved making beats.

1137
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 7: I came from music cut to I'm like signing this

1138
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 7: deal with Babyface and his wife. And you remember the

1139
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 7: artist John B. Remember him. He was when I was

1140
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 7: looking for beats. He was one of the kids who

1141
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 7: submitted a tape of beats and I remember his demo

1142
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 7: tape was phenomenal, Like he was this art, he was

1143
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 7: this like really, he's an incredibly talented R and B singer, songwriter, unbelievable.

1144
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 7: It was one of the best. Forget that it was

1145
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 7: a demo tape. It was honestly one of the best

1146
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 7: albums I had heard in years. They ended up signing him,

1147
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 7: So I did this album with uh it was I

1148
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 7: ended up doing it with someone who is now one

1149
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 7: of my closest friends in the world, Trey from the

1150
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 7: Far Side, who I was, and The Far Side. I

1151
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 7: was a huge fan of them at that point, and

1152
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 7: so we ended up doing this album and the label

1153
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 7: didn't really know what to do with it because I

1154
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 7: was the white guy from nine o two one zero,

1155
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 7: so I think they were expecting more of a There's

1156
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 7: nothing I Love can do for you baby, like I

1157
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 7: would be on a beach playing, you know, football, throwing

1158
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 7: a football to myself and a tank top and like

1159
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 7: that was my audience. And the album I did was

1160
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 7: not that at all. It was the music that I

1161
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 7: loved at the time. It was just as as true

1162
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 7: to hip hop as I could be. And hip hop

1163
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 7: was very, very fickle at that point, so the album

1164
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 7: wasn't received well like it was. Really people were really

1165
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 7: understandably hard on it. I mean, the the the business

1166
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 7: came Vanilla Ice was was big before me, so that

1167
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 7: the culture itself was very weary of anybody white coming

1168
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 7: in and having anything to say or do. And it

1169
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 7: wasn't until really eminem and I mean you had some

1170
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 7: people like ever Last, you had Third Base, you had

1171
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 7: Beastie Boys, you had these people before that were really

1172
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 7: true to it, but they weren't commercial, they weren't pombling.

1173
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 7: They were very all about the culture itself. So the

1174
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 7: fact that I was on such a commercially successful show,

1175
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 7: the cards were stacked against me from day one. And

1176
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 7: I remember going and promoting it and writers of like

1177
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 7: The Source and you know, all these hip hop magazines

1178
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 7: and stuff that we white labeled the album when we

1179
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 7: put it out, so nobody knew it was me, so

1180
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 7: we would get their honest review of it. But then

1181
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 7: I would sit down with them to do an interview

1182
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 7: and they'd be like, oh, you got me, okay, And

1183
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 7: I was like, no, no, no, I don't. We're not

1184
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 7: trying to get you at all, Like we're just we

1185
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 7: just wanted to give it a fair shot, you know.

1186
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 7: But people were really really hard on it. Now it's

1187
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 7: like widely respected, and I wish I had that respect

1188
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 7: in ninety five, but whatever, you know, it's good to

1189
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 7: have it now. It makes me feel good.

1190
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 5: Can I put you on the spot a little bit

1191
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 5: and see if you'll do a little nineties TV star

1192
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 5: rappers ranking between you Scott Cohn, David Faustino.

1193
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 7: Oh my god, wait uh uh, just within my industry

1194
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 7: or just hip hop itself. No, no, just within the industry.

1195
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Korn nemic like.

1196
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 7: You know, oh yeah he was so he uh so,

1197
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 7: cor and I are really good friends. Kirky is the

1198
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 7: name that he went by him. He was good, he

1199
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 7: was We were both good friends with this guy Justin

1200
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 7: Warfield who he and Adam went and did she once Revenge.

1201
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 7: They they're they're the two of that group.

1202
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 8: Yea.

1203
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 7: But yeah, there was a there was a small group

1204
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 7: of us who loved hip hop. I think Korn was

1205
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 7: the best, uh lyricist. He's He's always been a really

1206
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 7: good writer. Yeah he's still to this day. Like he

1207
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 7: writes uh these sort of film things and these TV

1208
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 7: show ida is and stuff that he has, and he's

1209
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 7: really really good at it. I think of any of them,

1210
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 7: I was by far the best beat maker. Not to

1211
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 7: toot my own horn, but I mean, you see, like

1212
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 7: I've got a full studio of stuff, studio this is.

1213
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 7: I would like to brag and be like, oh, this

1214
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 7: is you know, the state of the art podcast studio

1215
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 7: that I've built, but it's not. I've made no money

1216
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 7: in podcasting I've made I've made no money in music,

1217
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 7: but I still to Yeah, this is my thing. Dave

1218
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 7: God Dave like really uh broke the He opened a

1219
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 7: lot of doors for for people within TV to get

1220
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 7: it into.

1221
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 4: He was like the business mind.

1222
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: He really was.

1223
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1224
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 7: Uh and he's still to this day is like he's

1225
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 7: he's out djaying and doing a lot of stuff now

1226
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 7: and he is still people within that be real. He

1227
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 7: just he has all of these friends within the industry

1228
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 7: that it's cool.

1229
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 4: It's really will make will make no mention of Scott

1230
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 4: con No, Scott.

1231
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 7: Was, Scott was doing his thing. I just he's I mean,

1232
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 7: now he's an actor. Like nobody even knows that he

1233
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 7: was rapping because nothing I don't think anything commercially ever

1234
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 7: came out for Scott con Right. He used to come

1235
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 7: to my club though, it's unbelievable, like the club that

1236
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 7: I did at Bar One. The people that would come

1237
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 7: that I'd see outside at the door, Scotty Kahn with

1238
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 7: like he had he always had gloves on, like it

1239
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 7: was this whole thing. Uh, black eyed peas like well

1240
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 7: I am that they were all they were calling to

1241
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 7: the Hey man, you're doing your club tonight, and they oh, yeah, sure,

1242
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 7: come on through. And you know, all these all of

1243
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 7: these people within LA then got into that were really

1244
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 7: into hip hop, and the club scene opened the doors

1245
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 7: for a lot of these people.

1246
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 5: So a lot of stars came and went from nine

1247
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 5: oh two one Oho and you, yeah, you really went

1248
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 5: the distance.

1249
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 4: You stayed till the end. Did you ever think about leaving?

1250
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 7: No? Because the money got better and better, right, Like

1251
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 7: why why am I going to jump ship? Now? Like

1252
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 7: I get to, you know, renegotiate my contract, Like I'm

1253
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 7: just gonna stick it out here. I'm gonna I always

1254
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 7: have a sense of I think because I had been

1255
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 7: acting for so long of oh my god, I'm making

1256
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 7: good money. Now like let's stick this thing out and

1257
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 7: make as much as I can and you know, pay

1258
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 7: off my house and like really set myself up and

1259
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 7: then go be an artist and whatever after this is done.

1260
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 7: So at ten years, they still wanted to keep going.

1261
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 7: And I was really done at ten. Yeah, at ten,

1262
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 7: I was like, no, I think I'm I think I'm good,

1263
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 7: Like that's it's a ten year run. Like I've given

1264
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 7: you guys from seventeen to twenty seven, Like I I'm.

1265
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 4: Good, yeah, really great.

1266
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 5: Well, as you know, I am a big Sharna for

1267
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 5: fourth judge on Dancing with the Stars supporter.

1268
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 7: Can I just say beforehand, you were really great on

1269
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 7: the show. You were really fun, Like Sharna and I

1270
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 7: were rooting for you through it all because it's not

1271
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 7: it's not an easy thing to do, you know, being there,

1272
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 7: Like people you assume that, oh, I dance all the time, like, oh,

1273
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 7: it would just be fun, and it's like, no, it is.

1274
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 7: Dancing with the Stars is the true technique of dancing.

1275
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 7: And every time you get into a new dance style,

1276
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 7: the technique changes, and the frame changes, and the posture changes,

1277
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 7: and the heel or the totally changes. All of these

1278
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 7: things happen, and you have this really short week to

1279
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 7: master this thing and then be judged for it. When

1280
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 7: you're live and your you're picked apart for like all

1281
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 7: the little mistakes that you make, so you're rooting for

1282
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 7: anybody that is doing it, and you were, Danielle. You

1283
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 7: were so fun to watch and we really we really

1284
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 7: rooted for you. But your commitment to it and you're

1285
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 7: like true passion for doing it, and it was was

1286
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 7: not lost. I don't think on anybody that watched it.

1287
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 7: So so good for you for being there. As long

1288
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 7: as you were, and for committing to it and doing

1289
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 7: it because it's not it's not an easy thing at all.

1290
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 4: Thank you. It was the time of my entire life.

1291
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 4: I loved it so much.

1292
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 5: But I mean, that was so sweet. I was not

1293
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 5: asking this question to get any sort of praise myself.

1294
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 7: I praise I did.

1295
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 8: I did.

1296
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna accept it.

1297
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 5: I'm going to say thank you, but I'm asking wholeheartedly

1298
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 5: as a fan.

1299
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 4: How cool is your Wife's awesome? She's amazing.

1300
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 5: She's an incredible teacher, she's a fantastic dancer, she's got

1301
01:07:58,840 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 5: a great personality.

1302
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 7: I just I told you it was an amazing human being.

1303
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is?

1304
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 7: Which is? I think then what really translates to all

1305
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 7: the other stuff like fourth chair? You know, she she

1306
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 7: has a passion for constructive criticism, for like really understanding

1307
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 7: the process of what someone is going through and really

1308
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Speaker 7: trying to in the most positive way possible get explain

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Speaker 7: to people what the judges might be looking for or

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Speaker 7: what she saw or and and she it's funny we

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Speaker 7: would uh because we would always come by on tape

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Speaker 7: nights to kind of see everybody and encourage everyone, and

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Speaker 7: it the feedback that she got from so many people saying,

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Speaker 7: Oh no, we would watch Fourth Chair on Tuesday morning

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Speaker 7: and we would absolutely take to heart the things that

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Speaker 7: you would say because they would improve of what it

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Speaker 7: is we were doing. And she she was always about that.

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Speaker 7: It's like she wants to she wants to help people

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Speaker 7: with what it is she's saying. She doesn't she doesn't

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Speaker 7: ever want to just on someone for the purpose of

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Speaker 7: being on someone, Like she really wants to say things

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Speaker 7: that she hopes our light bulb moments where people go hmm, interesting. Yeah. Never,

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Speaker 7: I never thought about it that way. And she grew

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Speaker 7: up dancing. She's been dancing her entire life and she

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Speaker 7: loves it. And it wasn't until I did the show

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Speaker 7: that I really understood where where the passion and the

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Speaker 7: technique comes from and how much work goes into it.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, My last question for you. We've seen you

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Speaker 5: at conventions. You similarly to us, you are always paired

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Speaker 5: with Tory Spelling. Your characters are forever linked for sure.

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Speaker 5: What has it been like seeing the long lasting effects

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01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 5: of nine O two one Ozero and more specifically d

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01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 5: VID Silver, Like what kind of an impact that has

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01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 5: had on multiple generations incredibly humbling.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you guys know you're doing these conventions. Also

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Speaker 7: is it's so incredibly humbling when people come up to

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Speaker 7: the table and you can only give them fifteen twenty

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01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 7: seconds because you have to kind of keep it moving.

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01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 7: But if you give them your full attention during that

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01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 7: twenty seconds, how much of a change it can make

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01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 7: in their life and how much it means to them.

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Speaker 7: I always tell people like, it's not that hard to

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01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 7: be kind, to be nice to people. It's not that hard,

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Speaker 7: And so it blows my mind when people aren't, when

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01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 7: they just want to shuffle people through and sign stuff

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01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 7: and don't I don't understand that because that, honestly, to me,

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01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 7: in my mind, it takes more work than just being

1348
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 7: being kind to people. Conventions are great because it's given

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01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 7: me a chance to travel around and really see the

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01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,560
Speaker 7: impact of it and hear these stories from people that

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01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 7: are like, oh, I remember when I was in high

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01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 7: school and I was going through this, or I was

1353
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 7: going through this really tough situation, or you know, I

1354
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 7: watched your relationship and so I got a lot of

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01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 7: a lot of really great pointers and things from it,

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Speaker 7: and I use those in my own It's unbelievable because

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01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 7: to us, we were just kids making a show. You know.

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01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 7: The writers would hand us the script and we'd go

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01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 7: do the script, and then you finish it and you

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01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 7: move on. You never I never understood the impact of

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01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 7: what it was we were doing when we were doing it.

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01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 7: So to hear it now, you realize back then it

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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 7: was just a job. Now I'm not getting paid the

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01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 7: same way for that job. I'm It's a different role

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01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 7: that I've stepped into, and I really enjoy it. I

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 7: really love it, like I really I as much as

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01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 7: it's bad for business when you get to your table

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01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 7: and you're like, yeah, there's not many people here, I

1369
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 7: really enjoy the fact that I can spend time with

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Speaker 7: people and I do and we connect on I know

1371
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 7: nothing about what it's like to grow up in Kentucky,

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01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 7: or what's around you, or what school was like for you,

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01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 7: or God, let's let's like chop it up a little bit,

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01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 7: let's get some really cool conversations going. Because it makes

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01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 7: me a better person. I come back home. It makes

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01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 7: me a better father, It makes me a better listener,

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01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 7: it makes it makes me more compassionate. It just makes

1378
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 7: me a kinder human being because I am really listening

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01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 7: to people when I'm talking to them, and the stories

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01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 7: aren't that different. You know, our childhoods were different, and

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Speaker 7: some of the things we experienced and missed out on

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01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 7: were different, but they're all relative. We're all human beings

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01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, all of us. We

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01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 7: all have these human experiences. So you know, like you said,

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01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 7: people look at us and go, how dare you complain

1386
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 7: that it was hard because look at all you had?

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01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 7: But for us, completely different situation. Yeah, my high school

1388
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 7: experience was in front of thirty million people every single

1389
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 7: week I'm doing a show, so yeah, it was pretty

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01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 7: It was pretty tough for me as well. Money, different

1391
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 7: situation life, sure, house and the cars and the stuff.

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01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 7: But it's all relative, man, YEA, all relative. So we're

1393
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 7: all human beings. Like I think, the more we can

1394
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 7: all connect and just listen to each other and connect

1395
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 7: with each other, the better equipped it makes us to

1396
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 7: live within this melting pot of a world, which now

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 7: with the Internet, is more of a melting pot than ever.

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01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 7: So we should all continue to learn about each other's

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01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 7: cultures and backgrounds and countries and cities and states and

1400
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 7: all of that, and like really connect on all of

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01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 7: the stories because we're not as different as we thought

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01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 7: we were when we were younger. It's all right here.

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01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 7: It's easy to get I can pick up my phone

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01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 7: and I can learn anything about anyone.

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01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 4: You know exactly.

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01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 7: I can ask chat GPT before I do an episode

1407
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 7: of my podcast, literally get everything to ask and everything

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01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 7: to know.

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01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 5: Well, thank you so much for being here with us.

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01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 5: It was a pleasure talking with you. Really great to

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01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 5: get to know you better and hear more of your stories.

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Speaker 7: Look for seeing you guys again on the you know,

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01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 7: it's super fun. These conventions are super fun because I

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01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 7: get to run into people that either I haven't seen

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01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 7: in years yep, or meet people that I knew because

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01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 7: we were all in the same industry and I didn't

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01:14:59,240 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 7: know personally.

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Speaker 1: So it's really I really always say it's our high

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01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:02,799
Speaker 1: school reunion.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it totally is. Yeah, it's these ridiculous weekends away

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01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 7: where it's like, God, I don't have to you know,

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01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 7: because I have four young kids at home. It's like

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01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 7: I don't. All of that kind of goes away and

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01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 7: we get to have fun dinners and share these fun

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01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 7: stories exactly and talk about how ridiculous our lives were

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01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 7: and the fact that we're all that we're all here

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01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 7: together and we're like, thank God, happy and healthy and

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01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 7: doing this and connecting with people.

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01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 4: Well, I'll see you with them all.

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01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, social start social for sure.

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01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 4: Thanks for being here.

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01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me.

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01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 4: Gus talk soon.

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Speaker 7: Bye bye.

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Speaker 3: What a good guy man.

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