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Is taking stock with Kathleen Hayes and 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: grim Box on Bloomberg Radio Africa. Africa Man he say, 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: is definitely turned the corner, and one big piece of 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: that puzzle is technology from tiny startups to major corporations 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: like General Electric investing in that continent helping it to 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: move ahead. Someone else who's helping it to move ahead 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: is joining us now. A regular on the show. Dick Garity, 25 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: principle at g v A, research columnists at Investopedia and 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: also advising the World Bank Group on integrating information and 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: communication technologies in development projects in Africa. Dave, Welcome to 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: the show. Kathleen, thank you very much. Well, it's really 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: terrific for our listeners to hear this part of your 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: story and your work because this is so important, so powerful. 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: Tell us what you're doing with the World Bank, uh 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: in terms of I've been consulting with the World Banks 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: and spent two thousand and ten looking mostly around how 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: do we use technology to get financial inclusion for people 35 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: in Africa? And financial inclusion basically means how do we 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: give people access to the use of either bank accounts 37 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: or access to other formal financial services. This could be microinsurance, 38 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: this could be micro loans, but primarily being able to 39 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: leverage the technology platform that cell phones represent to be 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: able to get access to those services. And this has 41 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: been instrumental in a number of areas, whether it's doing 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, utility bill presentation, settlement, paying school fees, wide 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: range of applications. Could you give us one specific example 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: that you've worked on, you've been part of, to give 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: us a sense of how it got you know, what 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: it is and then the impact it is having. Sure. Yeah. 47 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: In case in point um just it was less than 48 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: months ago, I was in northern Nigeria work in a 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: project to modernize irrigation districts UM. This is a five 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: million dollar project that the World Bank is doing with 51 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: the Nigerian government. Obviously, the first thing that has to 52 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: happen there is that the farmers have to be pay 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: their irrigation fees. If they don't pay for the water fees, 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: the irrigation project will fail. UM. Typically, though, you're finding 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: that these farmers, you know, they're operating in rural locations. 56 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: UH they're about a hundred and fifty thousand farmers across 57 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: five irrigation districts. And we're going to be implementing UH 58 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: mobile money payment programs starting in the second half of 59 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: to help assist all this now to the extent that 60 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: we can help farmers pay their water fees. Obviously the 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: protect productivity can improve. They spend less time basically trying 62 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: to travel their costs. We're also at the same time 63 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: trying to leverage their cell phones to provide other information 64 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: to improve their productivity, whether it's crop prices, whether it's 65 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: further information in terms of what techniques might be used 66 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: to improve their own productivity. But this is a five 67 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: million dollar project, it's in it's that's in its third 68 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: year right now, but it's really going to start to 69 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: take its benefit over the balance of sixteen going tea 70 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: into seventeen and eighteen, and just another way to show 71 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,559 Speaker 1: how profound the impact can be of information and communication 72 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: technolog and she's particularly in poor areas like Africa that 73 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: are are really trying to take off in many ways 74 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: exceeding a paper you co authored with Paula f Lightel, 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: a senior social development specialists at the World Bank. It's 76 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: about using I c T information communication technologies to support 77 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: ending the tuberculosis epidemic in Southern Africa. Tell Us, I 78 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: don't think most people realize that the tuberculosis right now 79 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: is killing almost as many people as HIV AIDS around 80 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: the world. It's actually, according to the World Health Organization, 81 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: is killing more people than HIV eight And in the 82 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: case of looking at Southern Africa, you've got infection rates 83 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: for tuberculosis that are about three times the global average. 84 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: And from that standpoint, we're in a situation where, um, 85 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, being able to control tuberculosis is going to 86 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: be very important in terms of addressing a major public 87 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: health issue. And this is a project that the Bank's 88 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: working on and it's going to be going forward over 89 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: the next five years. It just recently got approval and 90 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: we're going focusing on countries such as Zambia Mozambique, allowing 91 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: last that have a population about six people. So this 92 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: is going to be having significant impact. The important thing 93 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: with tuberculosis is that it takes about six months for 94 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: people to actually get a cure. And the issue that 95 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: we're going to be using mobile money with here is 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: to ensure that people are being incentivized to stay and 97 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: continuing to complete their treatment programs so we didn't have 98 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: more disease resistant forms of tuberculosis arise. So the i 99 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: C T aspect information technology communication technology aspect is the 100 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: mobile money? Are there other ways in which you're using 101 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: I c T to fight tuberculosis? Certainly, in the event 102 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: of being able to use um, you know, mobile forms 103 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: of computing, whether it's tablet computers in terms of putting 104 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: these in the hands of healthcare workers, whether they're working 105 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: in clinics or whether they're actually going out to communities 106 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: to deal with patients on a more localized level. UM. 107 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: Certainly the ability of these tablets and mobile forms of 108 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: computing to ensure that you can try to find ways 109 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: to train people while they're in the field, and then 110 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: not only in terms of training people in the field, 111 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: but also once the information and data is gathered, then 112 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: being able to bring that back in a centralized basis 113 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: fairly quickly, and more importantly, to the extent that this 114 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: information is being gathered as fairly transparent, being able to 115 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: react on a faster basis in terms of trends that 116 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: are developing, and what about where is technology going? This 117 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: is certainly, this is humanitarian, This is work to help people. 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: Is there eventually an investment angle here as well? Certainly 119 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: there is an investment angle if you wanted to look 120 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: at mobile money services in Africa. They're primarily operated by 121 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: mobile network operators cell phone companies. The company that actually 122 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: had pioneered the development of Empessa in um Kenya, company 123 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: called Safari Comm is actually a subsidiary of Vodaphone. But 124 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: if one was looking for a pure local play around 125 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: mobile money as well as also mobile network operations. As 126 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: a company headquarter in South Africa, mt N Group there 127 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: over the counter a d R here in the United 128 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: States is mt N o y market caps about fifteen 129 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: and a half billion dollars traded. Uh was up one 130 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: point seven today, closing in a dollars fifty two cents, 131 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: has an average volume about a hundred and sixteen thousand shares, 132 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: So it's it's a liquid named fifteen and a half 133 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: real quick five seconds? Do you own any of these days? 134 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: MTN okay? But hey, well truly certainly gave us an 135 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: interesting idea when it comes to investing in Africa. Gave 136 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: garrity for principle at g B a research and a 137 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: consultant to the World Bank, on some very important work 138 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: being done in Africa. This is taking stock on Bloomberg 139 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: Radio coming up. Bloomberg Lab brought to you by Deutsch 140 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: Jakins PC. If you feel you've been unlovely terminated, you 141 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: owe it to yourself to call the law firm of 142 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: Deutch Jackkins Now for a free phone consultation called eight 143 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: hundred four nine eight zero nine one