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Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: Claude Harmon. This week's pod is it's a special one

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Speaker 1: for me, and the reason for that is my guest

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Speaker 1: is rayhn Thomas. I'm sure many of you don't know

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Speaker 1: who Ray is, but he just turned professional, played his

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Speaker 1: college golf at Oklahoma State University, had a top ten

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Speaker 1: in the International Series on the Asian Tour last week

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Speaker 1: in his second professional event as a pro. But the

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Speaker 1: reason why it's special for me is Ray started in

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Speaker 1: our junior program. I have an academy out in Dubai

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Speaker 1: and Ray started in our junior program when he was

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Speaker 1: nine years old. And to kind of watch his journey

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Speaker 1: and watch him turn professional now has been pretty cool

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Speaker 1: for me. He talks a lot about his junior career,

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Speaker 1: struggling when he got to college and kind of that

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Speaker 1: jump from junior golf to college golf, and now he's

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Speaker 1: making that jump from college golf to professional golf. And

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Speaker 1: I've got a massive, massive soft spot for Ray. He's

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Speaker 1: always got a smile on his face. Justin Parsons who've

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Speaker 1: had on the pod before, JP and I were working

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Speaker 1: together in Dubai at my academy. When Ray was a

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Speaker 1: junior and he was young, we would put him through exercises.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't touch his toes. He always had a smile

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Speaker 1: on his face. And to watch him play last week

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Speaker 1: finish top ten on an invite on the Asian Tour,

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Speaker 1: it was really really cool for me, and I think

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Speaker 1: this is a really good podcast because golf, even at

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Speaker 1: the highest level, can sometimes be difficult. You can go

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Speaker 1: through slumps, you can go through confidence crisises, and Ray

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Speaker 1: talks very very open about it. But I'm so excited

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Speaker 1: to get the opportunity to talk to Ray Hann. I

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Speaker 1: think he's got a big future and I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: see what he does as a professional. So this is

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Speaker 1: a cool one. It's special for me, and I think

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Speaker 1: everyone's going to enjoy listening to Ray Han Thomas and

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Speaker 1: his story. So my guest today is finishing up his

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Speaker 1: fifth year at Oklahoma State University in the golf program

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Speaker 1: and he just turned professional, made the cut in his

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Speaker 1: first professional tournament. Corn Fairy seventy two, sixty four, sixty seven,

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Speaker 1: seventy three, tied for sixty eighth. Ray, this is a

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Speaker 1: really cool moment for me, not only to watch for

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Speaker 1: everything that you did at Oklahoma State for the last

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Speaker 1: five years, but now that you're turning pro. You were

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Speaker 1: nine years old when you start in our junior program

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Speaker 1: in Dubai, and to watch the journey from where you started.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I still remember you used to show up.

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Speaker 1: I used to call you short. One day you came

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Speaker 1: to me and you said, mister Claude, I don't like

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Speaker 1: him when I when you call me short. And I said, Ray,

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Speaker 1: you'll load the ground. The journey has been so cool,

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Speaker 1: and now you're turning pro. When you look back on it,

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Speaker 1: from junior golf to now turning pro, what do you

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Speaker 1: think you've learned the most in the last you know,

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Speaker 1: five years at Oklahoma State. Because for people that don't know,

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State's golf program is there. They're the Los Angeles Lakers,

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Speaker 1: the real Madrid they are. If you want to play

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Speaker 1: to Oklahoma State, it's such a privilege. The five years

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Speaker 1: you spent there, what do you think being an Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: It taught me a lot First of all, thanks thanks

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Speaker 2: for getting me on here, claud I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: And I mean the five years at Oklahoma State it

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Speaker 2: was awesome. I learned a lot more about myself in

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Speaker 2: my game, and that's what Coach Bratton was kind of

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Speaker 2: all about, trying to figure out who you are and

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Speaker 2: stick to those things, know your strengths and your weaknesses.

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Speaker 2: And I struggled for a good chunk of my college

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Speaker 2: career and trying to figure out, trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: who I was. And this last year has been a

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Speaker 2: really big leap for me, just in my confidence in

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Speaker 2: my game, and yeah, just figuring out what I do

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Speaker 2: trying to go back to those things when I see

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Speaker 1: You had a kind of a really kind of meteoric

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Speaker 1: amateur career, you know, you just started playing so good

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Speaker 1: You struggled early, I think, and that struggle for a

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Speaker 1: lot of junior golfers that listen to this podcast, for

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Speaker 1: a lot of parents who have junior golfers, the jump

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Speaker 1: You know, Ray I have parents all the time, Let's

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Speaker 1: used to seeing him win. We're used to seeing him

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Speaker 1: What was What was the struggle for you and how

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Speaker 2: The struggle for me initially was, you know, I'd be

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Speaker 2: have a plan and I would just be going through

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Speaker 2: the team and make it. And you're playing Carston Creek.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever been out there, but

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Speaker 2: it's a daunting and intimidating golf course if you're not

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Speaker 2: the anxiety was building. And you know, playing for Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 2: we'd just come off probably one of the best teams

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Speaker 1: You Victor Hovlin, Matt Wolfe. Yeah, christ I mean they

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, and you go into Oklahoma State, I think,

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Speaker 1: knowing a lot about it, but the culture that the

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Speaker 1: because Vic's now moved to Duport to live with Christophurt.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if Victor Hoblin sends your ass

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Speaker 1: But my point behind that is you get to meet

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Speaker 1: to Ray, you were kind of in your five years

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the things I've always loved about

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Speaker 1: And you know when you got to Oklahoma State, you know,

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Speaker 1: junior golfer. How much of that, Ray, do you feel

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Speaker 1: and how much of that was just what all golfers

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Speaker 2: I think it was a plethora of things, for sure. Definitely,

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Speaker 2: I think there were some technique issues in my swing,

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Speaker 2: but obviously, like they're guys that's swinging at all different

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Speaker 2: more weight. And I mean those first few years at

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Speaker 2: with my just because you golf is are weird sport

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Speaker 2: get worse and it literally felt like that, like I'd

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Speaker 2: feeling like I was getting worse, And so that weighs

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Speaker 2: on you a lot. And I honestly think that the

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Speaker 2: real changing point was this last summer, I was hurt

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Speaker 2: And so Zach Bowsho got you know well, and who

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Speaker 2: was on the national championship team in twenty eighteen, He

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Speaker 2: game prior to that, and he also had some driver

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Speaker 2: the way I thought about the game. And that was

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Speaker 2: really a big pivotal point. When I got back, I

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Speaker 2: wasn't really as anxious as I was.

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Speaker 1: I think you had a unique opportunity as a player

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Speaker 1: got to go see him play in a professional tournament.

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Speaker 1: And I remember when I was doing television back in

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Speaker 1: I remember it was a FedEx Cup that that Billy

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Speaker 2: So he's a great guy to talk doing a good

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Speaker 1: after I'd moved from Dubai. Like I said, you know,

435
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Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, you're playing in a tournament shit sixty one.

436
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Speaker 1: You make nine birdies in a row, and you're smart.

437
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: You're a smart kid. You're intelligent, You're a thinker. You

438
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: remind me a lot of your Junior President's Cup. You're

439
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: a part of the junior the first Junior President's Cup

440
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Speaker 1: team for the international side in twenty seventeen. Your captain,

441
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Speaker 1: Trevor Ummerman, who's a good friend of mine, who I know,

442
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Speaker 1: who I worked with. I used to say to Trevor,

443
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: you're almost too smart to play golf because you try

444
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: and overanalyze everything. Whereas guys like Brooks, guys like DJ,

445
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: guys like Gary Woodland, they are very much seaball hit ball.

446
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: You know, they don't think a lot, and that is

447
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 1: a strength for them. But for someone like yourself, who

448
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 1: is a very cerebral type person, was it hard to

449
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 1: kind of go Can I just go back to doing

450
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Speaker 1: what I did as a junior to where I wasn't

451
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Speaker 1: really income, my brain wasn't with all of this, so

452
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: I just played golf.

453
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Speaker 2: I think about I've thought about that a lot, and

454
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: what I think is the kid that I was then

455
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: has led me to this point that I am now,

456
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: And I think golf and just your mind in general

457
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: is a constant evolution. And I'm never trying to get

458
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: back to the kid that I was because it's just

459
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: not going to happen. There's so much that's happened since then, experiences,

460
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: thoughts and things like that that have gone, like, you know,

461
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Speaker 2: I'm not the same person that I was, so why

462
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Speaker 2: don't I just try to be the best person I

463
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: am today? And like, I get there some guys that

464
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: do the simple and really just you know, and that's

465
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Speaker 2: great in all power to them. But me, I've learned

466
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Speaker 2: that I actually, really I'm very curious and interested in

467
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: the golf swing and all the little intricacies in it.

468
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Speaker 2: And that's what I've kind of just dove into. And

469
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Speaker 2: that's what Dana has been able to teach me. Danny Luf,

470
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Speaker 2: because who was my coach prior, He's also taught me that,

471
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Speaker 2: and I've just really enjoyed just learning about the golf

472
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Speaker 2: swing and what good gootball strikers do, how I can

473
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Speaker 2: play well myself.

474
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Speaker 1: So coming from your parents were Indian, you play for India,

475
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: but you were brought up and grew up in Dubai

476
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: and for someone by the time they got to college golf, right,

477
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Speaker 1: I mean, you have done as much travel as a

478
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Speaker 1: lot of tour players. You play golf all over the world.

479
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Speaker 1: When you do that, and you go all over the

480
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Speaker 1: world and you have to play in the Middle East,

481
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: you have to play in Europe, you have to play

482
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: in Ireland, Scotland, you have to play in Asia, the conditions,

483
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: the grasses are very, very very different. Your game translates

484
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: differently in different wind conditions and stuff like that. What

485
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 1: did you like about all of the different golf courses

486
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Speaker 1: that you got to play as a junior golfer.

487
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Speaker 2: I just I really enjoyed the competition, obviously, the aspect

488
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Speaker 2: of just being able to go out and compete against

489
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Speaker 2: different people in different places. And I thought in terms

490
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: of just the golf courses, I thought it was just

491
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Speaker 2: a fun challenge to be able to be able to

492
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Speaker 2: kind of just play everywhere that anywhere I could play

493
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 2: and try to see how my game fit. And I

494
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: think the travel really helped me when I moved to

495
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: college because it was like being away from home wasn't

496
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 2: anything new to me. April here was just so friendly

497
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: and welcoming that I never felt like out of place

498
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 2: away from home, like this is home for me now.

499
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Speaker 2: And I think that's what was really important to you.

500
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Speaker 2: Just learning how to be independent and be by yourself.

501
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Speaker 2: Because I was fifteen, I think was my first trip

502
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Speaker 2: by myself and I went to the UK for like

503
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: six two weeks, and I mean I was staying with

504
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Speaker 2: friends and a lot of Scottish pros and the buy

505
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: that connected me with people and just being by yourself,

506
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: you got to figure out how to get around and

507
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: where you're playing, and yeah, you have to be extremely independent.

508
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 2: I think that's what the travel did for me.

509
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Speaker 1: That Junior President's Cup team that you were part of

510
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen not Shay botch It he was on

511
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Speaker 1: the American side. Garrett. He's won a couple of times

512
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: on tour now. Derrick Heego, the South African he was

513
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: on that team. He's won on the PGA tour, Carl

514
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: Phillips's stud Chris so Lampreck. I mean, one of the

515
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Speaker 1: longest hitters. When you look back at that, it must

516
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Speaker 1: be kind of cool to say, Okay, I was part

517
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Speaker 1: of these kids. And I remember I was at that

518
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: President's Cup and I came out and watched you play.

519
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Speaker 1: And what did you learn about that kind of competition?

520
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 1: You know, that's a big deal. I mean, Trevor immondwo

521
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: was the captain for the US, I mean for the

522
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Speaker 1: international side. I think Justin Leonard was the captain for

523
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: the American team. It was the first time the Junior

524
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: Ryder Cup they've been doing for a long time. We've

525
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: all seen the pictures of Jordan Spieth and Justin Thomas

526
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: doing that. But to be a part of that, I

527
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: think you were the leading point in the standings to qualify.

528
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Speaker 1: I mean you were leading the standings going into that tournament.

529
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Speaker 1: It was it was in New Jersey that week. Must

530
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Speaker 1: have been pretty cool for you to play.

531
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Speaker 2: Oh, it was awesome. It was an amazing week. And

532
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: the greens were I remember the greens being so fast.

533
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: I'd never put it everything like that before. Like Trevor

534
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: Mummerman and he had us hit like these four footers

535
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: from above the cup on the practice putty green and

536
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: he was like, just try to leave it short and

537
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: you just couldn't and uh, just to develop some feeling.

538
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: It was an amazing week. I played it. I played

539
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: against Option the singles and he destroyed me. And you

540
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: could tell that kid was going to be special and

541
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: he is and uh, but it was just it's it

542
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: was an amazing experience and I think it really showed me

543
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: that I, you know, had the potential to be uh,

544
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: to be good and uh, to be around those guys

545
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: was was was a lot of fun.

546
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma status, I said, is one of the elite, elite

547
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: of US college golf programs. When you get there, it

548
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: is it is kill or be killed. There is it's

549
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: a fast learning curve and there is a lot of

550
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: time if you're playing bad you kind of feel like, man,

551
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I've got to play so good because they've

552
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: got so many good players. The schedule, you all play

553
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: the tournaments, you all play that competition aspect of it

554
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: where you're constantly, constantly in competition, I think is so

555
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: important for your development for professional golf, because that's what

556
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: professional golf is, right, from a competitive standpoint, Alan Bratton,

557
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: the head coach there, Donni Dahr, who was one of

558
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: the assistants. What did you learn from Coach Bratton and

559
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: Donnie about being a competitor and how did they kind

560
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: of mold who you are as a player today, because

561
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: they're two of my favorite people. I think they're two

562
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: of the best in developing great players.

563
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Coach Bratton is one of the best,

564
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: but probably one of the best coaches, if not the

565
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: best in college golf right now. And I think Coach

566
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: darr was the same. He's not he wasn't really an assistant.

567
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: He was we had two head coaches. And I think

568
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: what Coach Bratton's really good about is he he's a

569
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: good motivate, very good motivator, and he kind of lets

570
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: you realize that, you know, we we see the guys

571
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: like Brooks and DJ and Scottie and those those people,

572
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: and we see them play so well, and he's like,

573
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: there's no reason why you do that. There's no reason

574
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: they were in the same spot that you were at

575
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: some stage. He's like, there's no reason why you can't

576
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: dream big enough and and be out there with him.

577
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: And I think he was. He was really instrumental in

578
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: helping me get better, and you know, I'm extremely grateful

579
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: for what he's been able to help me with.

580
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Speaker 1: And the culture Ray at Oklahoma State, there is a

581
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Speaker 1: there is a you can feel it, you can touch it,

582
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: you can see it. The culture that they've created at

583
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: a really kind of remote place in Oklahoma. The weather's

584
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: not great, it's windy, it gets cold. But to be

585
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: a what's it like to be a part of that culture,

586
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: to be a part of, you know, the Oklahoma State

587
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: golf program. I think, you know, if you look at

588
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: right now, Alabama has a culture, Texas has a culture.

589
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: Conrad Ray out at Stanford, he's done the same thing.

590
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: But to me, the way that the guys at Oklahoma

591
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: State have done it over the last you know, twenty

592
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: thirty years. I mean it's second of what's it like

593
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: being in that culture? And do you do you feel it?

594
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: And is it something that you feel as it's you know,

595
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: you've got a responsibility to play well because of everything

596
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: that has come before you.

597
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: I think it more of like a responsibility to just

598
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: cocked myself like like a cowboy. You know that there's

599
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: a certain culture that coach Bradden Stratta instill in us

600
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: and the way we act and conduct yourself, play good

601
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: or bad. And I think the main thing I got

602
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: from Oklahoma State was the relationships I've built with certain

603
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: people like Victor. He's been a huge person for me.

604
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: Obviously I'm staying at his house and you know, he's

605
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: been able to you know, He's I bounce ideas off,

606
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: Zach Bowshoe, Austin Necker, all these people are huge, huge

607
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: for me to be able to talk to and kind

608
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: of bounce ideas off. And I've learned so much from

609
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: him that and these are connections I'm going to keep forever.

610
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: He coached Bratton, somebody I talked to on a daily

611
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: basis and get his ideas and things. And I think

612
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: just having that kind of support system and that culture

613
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: is huge. And I think all the Oklahoma State guys

614
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: have a kind of thing of paying it forward, you know,

615
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: whether it's through the pro am or talking to guys

616
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: like us and seeing if they can help us get better.

617
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: Everybody wants everybody from Oklahoma State wants the guys to

618
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: do well. And it's awesome because my first few years,

619
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: Victor was living in Stowwater and he I think he

620
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: missed the cut somewhere, like I think it was the

621
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: players he missed the cut. In the next day, he

622
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: was qualifying with us at Stillwater Country Club on a

623
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: bunch of greens, and I was like, man, this guy

624
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: works hard and he's trying to get better, and he's

625
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: not afraid to just pitch up with us and play.

626
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: Ricky Foller is probably as famous as anyone who is

627
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: associated with the Oklahoma State program. I know you've spent time.

628
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: Every time I would see Ricky when I was working

629
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: with him, and if he was at Oklahoma State, I'd

630
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: always say to him, how's my boy Ray doing? And

631
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: he would always say great things about But Ricky's kind of,

632
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: I think, a global ambassador for Oklahoma State golf, right.

633
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: I mean the orange clothing that he that he wears,

634
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: he kind of leads orange. What are some of the

635
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: things that you've learned from Ricky and the time that

636
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: you've gotten to spend around him, because I mean, you

637
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: couldn't meet everybody thinks that their public persona might be

638
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: different than who they really are, right. We're going through

639
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: that right now. A lot of people are saying, hey, Bryson.

640
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: It's all in act. He's not really like that and stuff.

641
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: But Ricky is what you see is what you get.

642
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: He is just one of the nicest human beings I've

643
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: ever met. Talk to me about the times that you

644
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: get to spend with with Ricky and how that's shaped

645
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: the way that you do things.

646
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've spent some time with him. I

647
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: played I think a nine hole practice around with him

648
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: in Abu Dhabi. I think you were there.

649
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was there.

650
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we set that up. It was sweet. It was

651
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: sweet to do that.

652
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: And at that time, it was funny that we set

653
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: that practice round up with you when you qualified where

654
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: we were like.

655
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: Sixteen, yeah, sixteen or seventeen, Yeah, it was it was

656
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: you know you.

657
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you weren't even on Oklahoma States radar at

658
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: that point. So the fact that she played in Abudabi

659
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: with Ricky at that time and then went on to

660
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: follow in his footsteps, that's pretty cool.

661
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. And so from Ricky we played. So

662
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: he came down to still Water I think maybe two

663
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: years ago now, and we had like everybody wanted to

664
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: play with him on the team, and so we ended

665
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: up playing like an eight sum at Carston, and I

666
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: just thought that, you know, just watching him go about

667
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: his business and how kind of focused he is, even

668
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: when we were in the eight. So I'm like, he's

669
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: trying to shoot the bows score he can possibly shoot.

670
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: And that's what I've went from Victor too, when we

671
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: were just having fun games. He is trying to shoot

672
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: the lowest possible score you can possibly shoot. And I

673
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: think seeing that and seeing how diligent and focused he

674
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: is on trying to get better. And Coach Bratton always

675
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: talks about how Ricky was such a stud in college

676
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: and he was like he knew he was going to

677
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: be great, and he is.

678
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: But I think what you just said there is something

679
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: that's really important for people listening. If you're going to

680
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: play so many times, it's easy to go out on

681
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: the golf course and just say, listen, i'm not hitting

682
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: it good, so I'll work on my game, or I'm

683
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: not going to try and shoot the lower score. But

684
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: the guys that make it to the tour, they are fierce,

685
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: fierce competitors, and when they go out, they're trying to

686
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: play their best and they want to shoot the lowest score.

687
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: And I think I say that to so many of

688
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: the juniors. Listen, if you're going to go out and play,

689
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: if you want to hit a couple of balls, that's fine,

690
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: but you have to keep score every time you go play.

691
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: Otherwise you don't understand the competition aspect of it.

692
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Victor was Victor because I had spent

693
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 2: so much time with him and played with him a lot.

694
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: I mean, you can just see the focus that he

695
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: puts into his practice. Like when he's playing, he is

696
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: shooting the lowest score he can possibly do. He's running

697
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: through his gold routine and he's trying to beat you,

698
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: and he's trying to get his chip out. They paid for.

699
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: So the big jump from junior golf to college golf.

700
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: Now you're making the ultimate jump from college golf amateur

701
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: golf to professional golf. Make the cut in your first

702
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: competitive professional event in the corn Ferry. You got a

703
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: sponsors invite. I was talking to Donny Daher about it.

704
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: He said he thought the sixty four, the sixty seven

705
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: that you shot in the second and third round, seventy

706
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: two in the first, seventy three in the last round.

707
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: But he said he thought those two rounds were really,

708
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: really important for you moving forward making the cut. What

709
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: was it like playing your first professional of Was it

710
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: different than you thought? Is it different ray than elite

711
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: college golf?

712
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: It is definitely a little different obviously now you're on

713
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: your own. I mean, when you're with the team, you know,

714
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: you got coach Bradney's telling you where to go, and

715
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: you know what we're doing and for the day. And

716
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: now it's on your time. You know, you decide when

717
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: you're going to go play or practice, strond what you're

718
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: going to do for the day. And so it's definitely

719
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: different that in that aspect. But at this end of

720
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: the day, it's just golf, like good golf anywhere. It

721
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, like you know, good golf travels. And so

722
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: when I went out there, I kind of had its

723
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: expectation on the corn Fray that you had to just

724
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: go shoot lights out, which you kind of do to

725
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: make the cut because those cuts are just so low.

726
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,959
Speaker 2: But I put that weight on myself that first round

727
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: and I wasn't hitting the ball all that good those

728
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: few days leading to it, and it just kind of showed.

729
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: And then that second round, I spoke to Dana and

730
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: I had a late teeth time. So I got out

731
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: there and just hit a few extra balls and I

732
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: was just like, Okay, I know what I need to do,

733
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: just with my movement. If I made good movements, I

734
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: will shoot a good score. And that's what I did.

735
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: And that last round I was playing pretty good and

736
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: just kind of let it go a little bit. But

737
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: it was awesome. And I got to play with Chris

738
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: Vinchuur in that last round, and he made the game

739
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 2: look very easy.

740
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: He's in, Chris fin Tura should put putt better. I mean,

741
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: the guy, he's one of the best. He's one of

742
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: the best pure. I mean, listen, I've been around the

743
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: game a long time. Chris Fintur was one of the

744
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: best pure putters I've ever seen.

745
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: I mean he also put through ten holes and when

746
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: I played with him, he was six hundred ten.

747
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: And you know this. The other thing is he works

748
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 1: his ass off on his putting.

749
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he looked like he was. He was doing a

750
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: whole bunch of drills before the round, and I mean

751
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: you could tell when he started putting he was like, Okay,

752
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: I get why he was doing those, Like he's making everything.

753
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: I had Matthew Pavall on the pod a couple of

754
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: months ago and he's done. He's moved to kind of Jupiter,

755
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: and he was I was letting him practice at Floridian.

756
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: He does ninety minutes a day ray of putting drills,

757
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: like every day, ninety minutes. So when he was on

758
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: the leaderboard US Open a couple of weeks ago and

759
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: everybody's looking at it, going where is this coming from,

760
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is not a surprise. And he hits

761
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: driver everywhere. Everywhere. He doesn't hit it miles right, he

762
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: doesn't vomit. He hits kind of a little bleed cut.

763
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: But a great example for you moving forward is he

764
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: just gets the ball in play with the driver and

765
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: he's got so much confidence in it that he's hitting driver.

766
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: And if you remember watching the US Open, he had

767
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: a ton of drivers and he really really did the

768
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: jump now to competitive professional golf. Talk me through what

769
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: the plan is, because I don't think people realize that

770
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: when you are in college golf, everything is done for you. Yeah,

771
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: the travel, the school, you know, when you have to

772
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: go to school, the coach and the team as you

773
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: went to practice. As soon as you get out, you

774
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: have to find a place to live. You have to

775
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: find a place to practice. You have to find all

776
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: of this stuff yourself. And I think one of the

777
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: big jumps that is hard for a lot of players

778
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: early on is everything's kind of been done for you

779
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: as a college golfer, especially when you're at a program

780
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: like Oklahoma State. I mean, you guys fly private at

781
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State as much as the tour players do. So

782
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: now you're about to go play your first kind of

783
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: big international. You're going to play the International Series as

784
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: part of the Asian Tour in Morocco. I grew up

785
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: at that golf course by the way. Really yeah, my

786
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: dad was the first head pro at Royal Darslum that

787
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: they ever had. We moved to Rocco when I was

788
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two, and there is an island green

789
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: that they have there and my sister and I used

790
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: to have we named two ducks that lived in the pond,

791
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: and when we were kids, we would go feed the ducks.

792
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: But my dad the first head pro. Have you ever

793
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: played there?

794
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: I've never played there.

795
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: They've got fifty four holes there. Ray it's Trent Jones

796
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: and it is old school. You will love it. I mean,

797
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: it's just tree lined old school. So now you're going

798
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: to go play international series Morocco? Are you are you excited?

799
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: Are you nervous? What are your expectations? And then after that,

800
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: what is the plan to get on a tour somewhere?

801
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Are you going to go to Europe and you're going

802
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: to try the US? What's what's what's the plan?

803
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: Uh So yeah, I'm feeling all kinds of things about Morocco.

804
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 2: You know, I'm excited. It's like when you turn pro

805
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: in college, you have a schedule and you know what

806
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 2: you're going to be playing in and when what we're

807
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: doing as a pro, like I've turned if you're not

808
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: a superstar, you don't know exactly what you're what you're

809
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: going to play in. So you're scrambling looking for events,

810
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: looking for money, looking for people to sponsor you. And

811
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, as an Indian you have to like you know,

812
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 2: get a visa for here and a visa for there.

813
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: And you know I've talking been talking about visas for

814
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: the last three months and so that stuff is all

815
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: stuff that I wish I didn't have to do, but

816
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: you have to do is just a you know, an

817
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: adult and a professional. But I'm excited you know, just

818
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: try to get like, I don't care where I play

819
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: right now, I just need to play. I just need

820
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: to get as many tournaments as I can get into,

821
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: and just just keep getting reps and get ready for

822
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to do the corn for your Q school

823
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: and uh, I've got conditional status on PGA Tour Americas

824
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 2: and so I'm gonna try to see if I can

825
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: get get into some of those events in Canada and

826
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: so just try to build a schedule off that and

827
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: just get ready, just get as many reps as I

828
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: can until Q School and hopefully get a maybe a

829
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: PGA Tour card or a CORN free card.

830
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's going to caddy for you? I mean, I

831
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: mean obviously both shoes gotta he's got to pay it back, right,

832
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: I mean, both shoes, both shoes got to take the

833
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: job of caddying for you and Morocco.

834
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be sweet. I love that. I mean,

835
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: and him have a great time together, so that that

836
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: would be awesome. But I'm just going to do a

837
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: local guy. I'm in a position where I just need

838
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: to get local guys until I get status somewhere and

839
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: then then I'll get somebody.

840
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: Lastly, Ray as a junior golfer. You came through our

841
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: junior development program as a nine year old, and I

842
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: think so many kids they need Indian golfers. You're the

843
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: next generation of Indian golfers, right, and there is a

844
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: there is a long Jo t Rendawa Jee Milka sing,

845
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of guys, Auto Bandla hereing now is

846
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: kind of one of the guys and Shif Kapor old school.

847
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's an opportunity for you as

848
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: a golfer but also a golfer to represent India because

849
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: I think junior golfers always looked to the superstars, right,

850
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: you're sixteen years old, like, Okay, I want to be

851
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: Rory McRoy, But if you're not from Northern Ireland, you

852
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: can't really relate to what he did. And I think

853
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: it's important that Indian young Indian golfers look at someone

854
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: like yourself, Ray and say, okay, Ray, it's from the

855
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: same country as I am. He kind of had the

856
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: same upbringing as I did. Do you feel like it's

857
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: important that you kind of fly the flag now and

858
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: hopefully can fly the flag for Indian golf moving forward.

859
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, India has been great to me when I

860
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: was a junior and amateur and kind of helping me

861
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: get my way. And even the Academy back in Dubai,

862
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: you know, they've done a great job of developing some

863
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: good players and sent some guys to some pretty nice

864
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 2: colleges like you know, Joshill Tennessee, Toby Bishops in Florida. Yeah,

865
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: and you know, Justin.

866
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: We've spent thirty I think we've sent since we started.

867
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: You were the first group of junior golfers that we

868
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: really from an elite standpoint, started working with in two

869
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, I think since two thousand and night.

870
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: I was starm to Justin about this the other night.

871
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: I think we sent close to almost thirty kids to

872
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: play Division one college golf out of out of Dubai,

873
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: which is a very very small, small golf market.

874
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a small place. I mean, you wouldn't

875
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: really expect it, but you know, the facilities at the

876
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: Academy were fantastic, and the and the development program was

877
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: huge for me as a kid, you know, not only

878
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: just for my golf game, but you know, I got

879
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: to hang out with some of my best friends to

880
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: this day, and so I always had a blast when

881
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 2: I was at the Academy and kind of just took

882
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: that along with me as I progressed on. And I

883
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: mean the Academy was huge for me. I mean, learning

884
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: from Justin he's still a huge mentor to me and yourself.

885
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: And being able to talk, bounce ideas off you guys,

886
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: and reach out to you guys when I need something.

887
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: I mean, that's huge, and the Academy has been a

888
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: big part of that.

889
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: Well. I can't tell you how proud I am of you.

890
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: Ray.

891
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: It's it's something that that Justin and I and all

892
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: of us that that watched you in Dubai kind of

893
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: do what you've done. It's it's pretty special. Lastly, Ray,

894
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: go to Indian Come on, give it to me. What's

895
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: your go to order when you go when you go home?

896
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: When you when you go home and you get what's

897
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: what's the what's the Indian food that because obviously Indian

898
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: food in America? When you go home, what's the go to?

899
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: What do you crave? What do you say, I've gotta

900
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: have that?

901
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: So my when I go back home, my mom knows

902
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: exactly what I want and she'll set up like the

903
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: menu for the week and Uh, it's like this semolina

904
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 2: rice thing and this fish curry she makes, and it transcends,

905
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: it puts me in a place like it brings almost

906
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: brings tears in my eyes. I talked to talk about

907
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: it with the guys at school and they don't quite

908
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: understand it. But for an Indian, for an Indian like,

909
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: the food is just so important to us, and it

910
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: takes me back to back to them my child today.

911
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: It's it's an amazing thing. So yeah, I will be

912
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: How spicy can you go? I honestly can't go too spicy.

913
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: I think I've been pretty westernized. I mean, you can't

914
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: even here. You wouldn't even know I was Indian if

915
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: you didn't didn't have the video on, you know. So

916
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: I kind of go too spicy. But she knows how

917
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: to do it just right, justin And.

918
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: I think of you like you're part of the family,

919
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: and uh, we're proud of you regardless of what you do.

920
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: And I know whether you make it in professional golf,

921
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: you're going to make it in life because I think

922
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: you're one of the best kids that I've been lucky

923
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: enough to meet. So good luck, We'll all be watching

924
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: play good and say hello to the say hello to

925
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: my pet ducks on the on.

926
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: The part three will I will thanks great to talk

927
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: to you right lost. Thank you.

928
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: So that was a really cool talk with rayhn Thomas,

929
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: and listen, I think he's somebody that you're going to

930
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: want to follow. You know. I can't imagine anyone listening

931
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: to that podcast and not saying, Wow, what a cool story.

932
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: He struggled, He had a standout junior career, kind of

933
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: caught lightning in a bottle late as a junior, went

934
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: to kind of the one of the top college golf

935
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: programs in the country, Oklahoma State University. He struggled, he

936
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: fought through it. He's trying to make his way as

937
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: a professional. Now made the cut in his first professional

938
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: event on the Corn Ferry and now as a top

939
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: ten on the international series on the Asian Tour. And

940
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: I think ray can do some really really cool things.

941
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: But I think it's a great story. He's a great kid.

942
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: I've never seen him not smiling. He loves golf, he

943
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: loves life. He's a smart kid, and I root for him.

944
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: I think all of you follow his career. He's going

945
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: to get more starts. He's going to Chase. Now he's

946
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: got to try and find a way to be a pro.

947
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: He's got to try and find a tour to play on,

948
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: and it's going to be exciting to see what he does.

949
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: But as I said in the opening, it's a cool

950
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: story and for me to kind of see a young

951
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: kid who was He wasn't the biggest kid in our

952
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: junior development program. He was just a great kid.

953
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 2: He still is.

954
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm proud of him. I'm excited to see where he

955
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: goes as a pro and hope everyone follows his career.

956
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: Thanks everyone for listening. We've got the last major of

957
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: the year coming up next week and I'm excited to

958
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: get up to Troon, Scotland. It's one of my favorite

959
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: in the open road. It's a great golf course. It's

960
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: going to be cool to watch. Son of a Butch

961
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: comes to you almost every Wednesday. We will see you

962
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: definitely next week.