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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dalks.

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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion, that's the spirit we bring.

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Speaker 3: To this show.

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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, can you feel the power?

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Speaker 4: Live and direct from Las Vegas, the fight capital of

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Speaker 4: the world. Yeah, it's Morning Combat Serious XM Studios. Here

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Speaker 4: at the wind Luke Thomas, Ryan Campbell.

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Speaker 2: We said we're gonna go big here right in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all things canelo Versus Mangia and an absolutely floated

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Speaker 4: Friday show presented to you by DraftKings.

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Speaker 3: What's how are you buddy?

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Speaker 2: Hey man? I am fired the heck up.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we had a live radio row two and

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Speaker 4: a half hour show yesterday which you can check out

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Speaker 4: right now on the Morning Combat YouTube channel. Luke, last

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Speaker 4: night in your hotel room, we recorded a room service

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Speaker 4: diaries that started slow but got hot late.

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Speaker 5: BC learned what plug talk was and now everyone is

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Speaker 5: worse for it.

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Speaker 4: And of course, uh, I'm just fired up for this fight.

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Speaker 4: So Luke loaded show today back on Fridays for this week.

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Speaker 4: Maybe this is a tease, maybe this is the beginning

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Speaker 4: of your future life. But here's what we're going to

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Speaker 4: do today, final previewing picks on All Things Canelo versus

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Speaker 4: Mongia ahead of Saturday's PBC on Prime Video, pay per View,

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Speaker 4: UFC three oh one breakdown and picks. We're going to

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Speaker 4: react to the Ryan Garcia fallout from his failed drug

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Speaker 4: tests recent John Jones news. We're going to kick off

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Speaker 4: with in a second. But Luke, happy to be back

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Speaker 4: with you. And after I left you last night after

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Speaker 4: our room service diaries, you were talking about the ideas

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Speaker 4: of actually getting real room service.

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Speaker 2: Did you get grossed? Did you get sloppy?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what ended up having so very quickly

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Speaker 5: I ordered Pat Tai, as one does in Vegas eats.

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Speaker 4: So you got to get the iced ice high coffee.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to know that stuff or the iced coffee.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, I got that, and I got a

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Speaker 5: cucumber salad. I want to keep it very basic, very simple,

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Speaker 5: extra extra chicken, which is relevant because when they delivered it,

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Speaker 5: it was piping hot, it was fresh, and I open everything.

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Speaker 2: And every food fresh.

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Speaker 3: I was hungry.

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Speaker 5: I was like, really really hungry because I hadn't eaten

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Speaker 5: since like the US.

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Speaker 3: How you think that?

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Speaker 2: Were you in the a throw or the eighty eight throw.

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Speaker 2: At this point, if you know what I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, zooited, I mean absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 2: Throw back a bottle like a bat stone, like a.

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Speaker 5: Bat open the bag and there are no utensils. And

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Speaker 5: I had I told you see about this yesterday. I've

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Speaker 5: done this, like like I'm forty fourty to this stupid workout.

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Speaker 5: I could barely move. I had nothing in mind.

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Speaker 4: That was the biggest workout ever right before Three Hour Lives.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know what it was. I'm only following in

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Speaker 5: and I was like Jesus, what the f anyway, So

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Speaker 5: I was like I can't go downstairs, so I had

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Speaker 5: to eat it with my hands. I ate like early man,

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Speaker 4: Yeah if you do, like Puck from Real World San Francisco,

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Speaker 4: where he wouldn't use utensils. He would just take his

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Speaker 5: I washed my hands real real well. And then I

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Speaker 5: ate it. And then I got you. When you like

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Speaker 5: minimize the pile, then you can start to drink.

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Speaker 3: The bad time.

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Speaker 2: They're just so caveman in bar back and in a way,

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: But that is.

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Speaker 5: Like if anyone saw me here, they'd lose to the

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Speaker 5: all would have been eviscerated. People had seen me.

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Speaker 2: Were you in your under rust during the sequence?

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Speaker 5: No, I was still closed, And that's why all the

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Speaker 3: And shame just went everywhere.

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Speaker 5: Wow, that is Luke Thomas told me here told I

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Speaker 5: want to let me just tease this if I can,

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Speaker 5: if I if I may, very quickly, and we have

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Speaker 5: to show to get to We did record a room

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Speaker 4: Shocker, did David Hasselhoff either sandwich shirtless.

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Speaker 5: Or what I have become the meme? But I want

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Speaker 5: eyeing hysterically in a Hooters, which actually it actually happened,

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Speaker 5: And so if you see that, if you listen to it,

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Speaker 5: They didn't want some of some of them did not

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Speaker 5: want to listen. We told them, brick by brick, piece

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Speaker 2: Now are we sponsored by Starbucks Is that why that

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry that I need caffeine to get through my day.

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Speaker 3: Look at my face. I've got bad wake.

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Speaker 2: Up early in caffeine. I was about four am.

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Speaker 3: I got up at five forty five? Is that? Is

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Speaker 2: Normally people try to eat in caffeate before programming.

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Speaker 5: You got tell the folks you got up at four

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Speaker 2: I had to write the Canalo preview for CBS Sports.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: People don't understand.

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Speaker 5: If you want to get work done on time, and

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Speaker 5: On Saturdays, you're going to bed at two to four am,

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Speaker 5: That's the real thing that happened.

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Speaker 5: The British fans are gonna be like, we always do this, okay,

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about working, and then you're also going to

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, be prepared, be prepared for that.

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Speaker 3: All right? We have breaking no before all.

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Speaker 2: Kind of loose, not breaking, but news this morning before

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Speaker 2: we get into all things Canelomongia three, UFC three oh

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Speaker 4: How about Boney, Yes, the goat of MMA. John Bones

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Speaker 4: Jones quick mini segment to start it off. Luke about

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Speaker 4: four to five hours ago on Twitter, Boney hit the airwaves.

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Speaker 4: reaction to this. This is John Jones at Johnny Bones.

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Speaker 4: If Alex p Meaning Poeton becomes champion of the heavyweight division,

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Speaker 2: The most massive fight the UFC could make. Give Alex

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Speaker 2: He would go on to tweet a little bit more

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Speaker 2: Ashverra, what are we doing here? What is this sat

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Speaker 5: He doesn't, which isn't what I'm about to say is

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Speaker 4: Is it equated to Canelo doesn't want Benefitaz or is

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Speaker 5: I think it's pretty similar. Yeah, I think it's pretty similar.

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Speaker 5: John Jones is obviously older, he's thirty six, but he's

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Speaker 3: I see you smirking. Are the people behind this just like.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just just just marks out in the lobby

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Speaker 4: here we're we're at the win, which is, by the way,

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Speaker 4: a beautiful you can see the live shot of some

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Speaker 4: local where Cameron.

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Speaker 3: And Mace do the show. I believe, is that right, guys?

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Speaker 2: All the Smoke has done some great stuff here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, anyway, So the point I'm trying to make about

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Speaker 5: John Jones, yes, is that.

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Speaker 2: They're aggling us. I'm sorry, I'm getting auged right now.

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Speaker 2: It's this, this is this is this is part of

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Speaker 2: the see there is I've known you now for many

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Speaker 2: many years. There is nothing you love more than being

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that. Just sit back and enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: I love nineties MBA and Delta Eight's a lot. Okay,

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Speaker 5: How can you possibly sell to the public that what

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Speaker 5: Do I hate the fight between John Jones and Alex Paeda?

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Speaker 5: You have the belt, and therefore, by holding the belt,

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Speaker 5: Whether you like it, he does not currently hold a

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Speaker 4: I mean our colleague at CBS Sports, Brent Brookhouse, like

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Speaker 5: If they want us to believe that that's the most

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Speaker 3: I don't like the stepe fight doesn't do anything for me.

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Speaker 4: But we'll see how with the order of of John

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're right, I want my drop my coffee on the.

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Speaker 2: You could take it off the counter if you want.

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Speaker 3: You know, just how about just throw out your face.

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Speaker 2: You know what I love about working with you, Lucas

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Speaker 4: So what I'm trying to say here is no, this

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Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying, like that John is

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Speaker 5: I don't again, I don't. I don't mind this at all.

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Speaker 3: I honestly understand it.

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Speaker 5: It's just the belt means you've got responsibilities er they

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Speaker 4: That final question on this, when we make the pie

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Speaker 2: How do you break up that pie.

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Speaker 2: Dana could have done more to make it. You could,

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Speaker 3: I don't blame guys like that.

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Speaker 5: For Again, I don't blame guys like this at the

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Speaker 4: It's just rare because of their unusual amount of leverage

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Speaker 5: I said this on my life check because I was

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Speaker 5: But I've thought about this too. There was a girl

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Speaker 2: On Prime Video pay per view.

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Speaker 2: It's a big one. Sinkle to myle weekend.

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Speaker 4: Canello Alvarez super middleweight undisputed Championship against unbeaten Haimi Mungia,

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Speaker 4: on the buzz, the feeling this week. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It's everywhere here, like Canelo has absolutely taken over this space.

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Speaker 5: And we've been here for Canelo fights, Like when he arrives,

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Speaker 5: whole thing.

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00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,360
Speaker 4: Rhoda champion at sixty eight. By the way, he won

442
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,880
Speaker 4: three fight. He won four fights in a twelve sorry

443
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,119
Speaker 4: an eleventh month span from the end of twenty twenty

444
00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 4: into twenty twenty one, and he beat three undefeated champions

445
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 4: to become the undisputed champion in eleven months. Remarkable, but

446
00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,680
Speaker 4: a little bit of ups and downs for Canelo sense.

447
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 4: He had the hand injury which made him look human

448
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 4: in three consecutive fights, a competitive loss to beat Tobitri Beval,

449
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,960
Speaker 4: and then the glove contrilogy of the John Ryder fight.

450
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,119
Speaker 4: He did bounce back last fall against Jamel Charlow in

451
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 4: that undisputed versus undisputed clash, although to some degree it's

452
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,920
Speaker 4: hard to formally judge engage that because Jermel just what

453
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,240
Speaker 4: would you say, just didn't seem wired to want to fight.

454
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,240
Speaker 3: Didn't show up that night, It wasn't really there.

455
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 4: You got Mangia coming off of his best performance, but

456
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 4: at age thirty three, Luke, nineteen years into his pro career,

457
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 4: what is your Friday morning confidence level of how close

458
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 4: to that prime Canelos still is entering this matchup in

459
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 4: which I have him coming in at number four pound.

460
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Speaker 5: You know what he reminded me of yesterday, just a

461
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 5: little bit, just a little bit gsp right at the

462
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 5: end of his initial big run, like right before the

463
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Speaker 5: Hendrix five or something like that, where something like that,

464
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,640
Speaker 5: because he still won all those fights, right, He didn't

465
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 5: lose any of those in that in that in that era.

466
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 5: Some of them were closer than another, some of them

467
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 5: had tough moments, but he was there. But he just

468
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 5: felt like both a big industry everywhere he went there,

469
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 5: he was just creating a big market, but that he

470
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 5: had grown a little bit wary of the process. I

471
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 5: remember I did an interview with him that week. He

472
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 5: was very snappy and short with a lot of different media.

473
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 5: He just was sick of another. Canelo is not merely

474
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 5: like that. I'm not suggesting it's just like that. There's

475
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 5: a cough.

476
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,679
Speaker 2: Button, Sorry, Luke, they told me, don't press those butt You.

477
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 3: Can press the cough button anyway, press the cough button.

478
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 5: I did.

479
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 2: It didn't work all right?

480
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 3: Are we good? Don't you go dying on me.

481
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't think you need to worry about me. Just

482
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 2: keep talking, you know, I'll work around.

483
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 5: But I would like, you know, if we could talk together.

484
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 5: Did you not feel a little bit that he is

485
00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 5: you don't know. For the most part, he does the process,

486
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 5: he's a pro. It's a lot of media, it's a

487
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 5: lot of this. He does it all. Seems a little

488
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 5: bit sick of it. Okay, Okay, here's how I'll describe it.

489
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 5: I get what you're saying. There's an edge to Canelo

490
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 5: this week that we haven't seen in a while. You

491
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 5: can call it heal Canelo, which rap Bartholo.

492
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 4: Miss not like this, and I think it's it's easy

493
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 4: to understand why Canelo seems legitimately hurt in my opinion,

494
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 4: that the fans in the media have conspired to do

495
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 4: the aggressive you're ducking Benavida's thing. Now, I personally do

496
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 4: think he's whether you want to say ducking or avoiding

497
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 4: was said it a Monday Show. I do think he's

498
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 4: strategically avoiding whatever you want to say. But Luke, in

499
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 4: his mind, it's sort of like, guys, what else do

500
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 4: I have to do for you. You know, I went

501
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 4: up to seventy five and tried with Bevall. I tried

502
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,479
Speaker 4: for the rematch, and you didn't want me to do it.

503
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 4: I even thought about going to cruiserweight, and you guys

504
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 4: were like, no, there's fights with different fights. We want

505
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 4: to see that built. I think a foundation for Canelo

506
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 4: to look more surly. I think you're hearing him speak,

507
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 4: even though with respect to Mangia, he's doing a lot

508
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 4: of third person of Canelo is different, right, and there's

509
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 4: a lot of that coming out that. Look, I respect Mangia,

510
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 4: but in all these categories, I'm better and Canelo is

511
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 4: just different.

512
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he's sick of this process.

513
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 4: I just think he's he's getting to that point where

514
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 4: he feels like he can't satisfy anyone anymore because everyone's.

515
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: Like, no fight Crawford, no fight, this, fight this, and

516
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: he just wants to kind of comment here duty wants.

517
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 4: But then I think the Oscar element this week took

518
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 4: it to a whole new level, and I think that's

519
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 4: why he just got into full on you know what fit.

520
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 4: I hate this guy. I mean, he's not holding back

521
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 4: on Oscar at all. In fact, can we throw to

522
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 4: the video to give a nice recap to people, because

523
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 4: a lot of people have said, hey, within this video,

524
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 4: isn't there this in your Spanish rant from Canelo really

525
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 4: going ham on oscar?

526
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 5: We have the subtitles to transfity quickly, let me ask

527
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 5: a question in this video, which version of the video

528
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 5: is this?

529
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: This is we get to the naughty words here or not.

530
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: I just explained that we have the subtitles of his

531
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 2: what he's There are.

532
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 5: Different versions out there that have some of them, not

533
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 5: all of them. That is why I am asking.

534
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to find out which one.

535
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,719
Speaker 4: Say, let's go to the videotape of what we saw

536
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 4: at Wednesday's press conference.

537
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 7: Remember when Hyama was twenty one years old volunteer to

538
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 7: step in against Triple G and Canelo.

539
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: Failed two drug tests.

540
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 7: Can though Jimen wasn't allowed to fulfil his dream twenty eighteen,

541
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 7: on Saturday night, he will do just that, fulfil his

542
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 7: dream and.

543
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: Be world champions.

544
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 8: Look series, the Pinch American Cavron Tulos penduna Canna Calos,

545
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 8: the tragedy tourist he pressed in Basil Nintento missquierda cal

546
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Speaker 8: carneloss lamentally Crocus and Nomas Garnaudi, Nero so Jella see

547
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Speaker 8: movien p q se se Perosinovira, see Melo roa helt.

548
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 9: So weird that yeah, yeah, yeah, yel lata latin.

549
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 5: Wow.

550
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: Okay.

551
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 5: So I was asking which version this was the good one,

552
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 5: that was the that was the version that was the

553
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 5: right one.

554
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: I mean, think about this.

555
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 4: We've seen promoter versus fighter beefs before, you know and day.

556
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen a million different things. They went

557
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 4: personal like we It started off with Oscars saying like,

558
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 4: will never see golden boy build you to put some

559
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 4: respect on my name.

560
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 5: I had never seen a So I've seen a bunch

561
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 5: of these different versions. I had not heard the version

562
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 5: where they amplified Canelo's audio chirping at Oscar while Oscar's reading,

563
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 5: I've not heard that one, dude.

564
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 4: So for him to bring up for the first time,

565
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 4: meaning Canelo this idea that that de la Hoya steals

566
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: money from his fighters too, which is always like the

567
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 4: old don king reputation, the old you know, from the

568
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: old days, and specifically Glovekin as well. And then to

569
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 4: get into the let's just say it, Luke, Bildo's and kitchen.

570
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 4: I mean, Oscar has been linked to a lot of things,

571
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 4: a lot of kinky ship that goes, that goes beyond

572
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 4: uh just uh fish nets to be very well listen.

573
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not going to sit up here and

574
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 5: uh you know, I don't care. I don't care about

575
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 5: that part.

576
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: Of his life.

577
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 5: You don't care about the S or the M in

578
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 5: this case, dude, what Oscar de la Hoya is doing

579
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 5: with his butthole? I I never, okay, I never think

580
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 5: about I never.

581
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: I don't.

582
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 5: These are not things I ponder.

583
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: I like the way you work here.

584
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 4: Look at these Look people just representing us out there, Luke, Okay,

585
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 4: the whole.

586
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 3: Heka shoes out there.

587
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 5: If you want to know what kind of a lot

588
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 5: of people hokus shoes.

589
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: Oscar would take it to the next level by putting

590
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: out a So so we're gonna throw to this video

591
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: that has Canelo talking to a scrum of reporters after

592
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 4: this went down on Wednesday with Oscar's reaction, Let's continue this.

593
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 2: He come closer.

594
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 3: I fuck.

595
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: Alabama power, China's power.

596
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: We're going to bang.

597
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: We're going to bang each shotter.

598
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 3: H Yeah, I mean, you're racist, That's all I could say.

599
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 3: You and Oscar are.

600
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 10: I mean, he is my favorite fighter. But but you know,

601
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 10: I don't get Canelo. We're just sitting there and making

602
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 10: fun of his English. He's trying, so I admit it

603
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 10: came out a little bit awkward, but we build.

604
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 4: This foundation to say the point we're seeing an edgy Canelo.

605
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 4: And the thing is, what's the history of backing Canelo

606
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 4: up against the wall. I always bring back when he

607
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 4: failed the drug test ahead of the second Glove can fight,

608
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 4: by the way, which twenty one year old Haimimageea tried

609
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 4: to slide in as the replacement opponent until the Nevada

610
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: Commission said he's too inexperienced and he'd have to move

611
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 4: up and wait to do it, and they vetoed. It

612
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: ended up being what Vona Smartosian filled in last minute

613
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 4: and got destroyed. But when Canelo came back in that

614
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 4: rematch with Triple G, we saw like all Mexico Canelo,

615
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 4: we saw like get in the trenches and walk the

616
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: bigger puncher back.

617
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: Canelo. You put the target. He could be putting a

618
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: target on Mongia is de la Joya. I know he's

619
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: also trying to sell the fight.

620
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 4: But Luke, we caught up with the King himself, Canelo,

621
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 4: and we asked him all, you know, basically all the

622
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 4: questions you would want us to ask him outside of

623
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 4: Benavita's related to this fight week.

624
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: I want to throw to it.

625
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 6: Now.

626
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 3: Let's do this. Yeah, here's our conversation with the face

627
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 3: of boxing, Nilo Alvarez.

628
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: Canelo. Let's start right here. And by the way, thank

629
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: you for the time, buddy, appreciate it. You've been fired

630
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: up lately in ways that I haven't seen in a while,

631
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: whether you're telling the fans how many more names do

632
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: you need to see before you'll be happy, or whether

633
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: you are getting out of your chair to walk down Oscar.

634
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: I haven't seen heel Canelo. You know that term heel,

635
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: which means in pro wrestling bag. I haven't seen heel

636
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: Canelo in a while. What gives this ship?

637
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 9: Right?

638
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: Man?

639
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 9: I all respect everything and any any any any person

640
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 9: out there, But you know, like all I always say for,

641
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 9: every action needs a reaction, and I'm I'm a fighter.

642
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 9: I'm a fighter, but you know, things.

643
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 2: Happen all right. Let me ask you this, because our

644
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: role is the media. We gotta make critical decisions and

645
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: we're not You know, you're not always gonna love. Well,

646
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: we're right, we're not always gonna love. Do you do

647
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: you remember things? You put them in your head, like

648
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: like like Michael Jordan, are you a killer in that

649
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: regard where you're like, Oh, I remember what Brian Campbell

650
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: wrote about me three years ago. Oh, we think so,

651
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: I'm duck in that guy? I mean, does that motivate

652
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: you when you hear people saying things like that.

653
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, of course everything.

654
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: I got everything.

655
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: Every every.

656
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 9: In they say, oh they want me to do or

657
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 9: not whatever? I got that for motivation for me, I

658
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 9: put all that energy in a good in a good way.

659
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 9: So I feel I feel like I'm very strong on

660
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 9: my mind.

661
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 5: So I have to ask about yesterday's presser, But I

662
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 5: want to ask you in this way, did you expect

663
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 5: something from Oscar? Did you expect that he was gonna

664
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 5: come throwing grenades?

665
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 9: You can expect from Oscar. You can spend anything like that.

666
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 9: He's just throw Chad in for his mom. He don't

667
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 9: know anything about being promoted their fighter or care about

668
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 9: their fighter. They always leave their fighters when.

669
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: They need.

670
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 9: Him in the biggest stage they he he lived their fighters.

671
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 9: He don't care about his fighter. The attention is from

672
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 9: Mungia and he don't he don't care. He wont the attention.

673
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 9: That all the attention. You know, you see yesterday, you

674
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 9: saw yesterday. But it's nothing, nothing, nothing, so primate from

675
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 9: from from him.

676
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 5: So but do you think he did it on purpose

677
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 5: because I'm gonna I'm gonna mess with Yeah, that's why.

678
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 9: He did it in first plas, Yeah, because he wants attention,

679
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 9: that's what. Because other than that, other than that, when

680
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 9: the people talk about Oscar, you still so howohol or something?

681
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: But kitchen utensils? Yeah? How you say you really enjoy that?

682
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 9: What I say it?

683
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 8: No?

684
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: I say it because I hear.

685
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: It right right right?

686
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead?

687
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: So interesting, No, I was making a joke. There's making

688
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: a joke here. We were trying to look at the

689
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: challenge that you have in honeymoonkey big physical fights in

690
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: the traditional Mexican style. There's a chance win or lose.

691
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: This could be one of the more physically demanding fights

692
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: you've had in a while. Do you expect that he's

693
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: going to at times corner you lean on your rough

694
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: view up? Are you expecting this to be a war

695
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: that the Mexican fans are, that all fans are hoping.

696
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 9: He's gonna be a good fight. For sure. He's a

697
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 9: style on my style. He's gonna be a great fight.

698
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 9: I don't know how many rounds, but he's gonna be

699
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 9: a great fight.

700
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 6: Like he.

701
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: What do you think is your biggest advantage over him?

702
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 9: I have more experience, I'm stronger and.

703
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Mortalent, so a lot of things.

704
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 5: Okay, fair enough, but I guess what I'm trying to

705
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 5: point out is like styles make facts, right. Yeah, So

706
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 5: one thing you're one of the best at is elite counterpunching.

707
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 5: And I was actually talking to this book with Bob

708
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 5: Santo's if you look at the numbers, he doesn't take

709
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 5: a lot of damage in terms of like how much,

710
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 5: but when they land, they land. He takes big, big shots.

711
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 5: Surely this is something you've seen. I wondered, to what

712
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 5: extent do you plan for that? Like, how do you

713
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 5: feel about that as when you're training.

714
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 9: No, I think he's a good fighter. He throw a

715
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 9: lot of bunches. He's a strong because he they hit

716
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 9: him before, and he he can does good. But uh,

717
00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 9: you know, and and he he gonna experience something different

718
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 9: in Saturday and night. I feel better than ever. And

719
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 9: you want to see Saturday.

720
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 5: Do you feel like I mean you you seemed we

721
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 5: were there at the Charlotte fight. You seemed very rejuvenated

722
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 5: through that experience. And now of course with this training

723
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 5: and hear this, you got this weird thing going Oscar.

724
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 5: But Jim is not really saying anything like how do

725
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 5: you know.

726
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 9: I don't direspect him. I respect him, and I really

727
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 9: feel proud about him. He's a Mexican and what he's

728
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 9: doing and everything, I feel proud about it. But we

729
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 9: don't come to here to play and say anything, right.

730
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 9: I come to do my job and is winning and

731
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 9: and but I respect him alad and I feel problem, my, my, my,

732
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 9: what he's doing in boxing for Mexico.

733
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 5: I did see you say that you know you could

734
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 5: have two fights left, three fights left, four, even ten.

735
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: It's how you feel.

736
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: But I guess what I would ask is how much

737
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: is retirement on your mind?

738
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 3: Not so much right now.

739
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't like in the course of the year.

740
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 9: I don't thinking about it, you know, I have I

741
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 9: have just one year, like a bad year because of

742
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 9: my hand and jury. But right now I'm I feeling

743
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 9: my best. I feel in my in my prime right

744
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 9: now when when I'm able to train like that and

745
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 9: and no injuries, so I feel I feel in my

746
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 9: prime and mui.

747
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 5: Okay, So he's bigger than Charlot One thing right, much different.

748
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 5: What would you say is his best talent?

749
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 9: Is he No, he's he's good, he's you don't.

750
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: You don't see that.

751
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 9: But his smart he knows when he's throwing, he thing

752
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 9: his He throw a lot of punches too. He knows

753
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 9: how to to two bucks. But like I say, it's different.

754
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 9: It's I'm different, and he's gonna spend something different night.

755
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: He's different.

756
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 5: To find out, Sarah, I saw your wife saying that

757
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 5: you guys would go to Croatia for a vacation.

758
00:33:59,480 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 6: No one would do.

759
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: I could have told you.

760
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: They would have known you there. Definitely would have.

761
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: Him around the world.

762
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, my wife when when when we married, he say,

763
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 9: when I go to the Croatia to care lax and everything. Okay,

764
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 9: let's go, and we went to the season.

765
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: Everybody, I want you to get my eyes tattooed on

766
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: your forum like Canelo has him as well. Thank you

767
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 2: for your time.

768
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much. There he is the

769
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: face of boxing Canelo OBErs, thank you so much.

770
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 3: Thank you.

771
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: That was, of course from our radio Row interview especially

772
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: can catch it on the Morning Combat YouTube Chit channel

773
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: interviews with Hammi Mangia, Aeriel Hawani, Lob Santos, Vito Melneki,

774
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: so many great Al Bernstein, shout out with Jerry, just

775
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 2: a fun stretch of big interviews, Dan Canobio and so

776
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: much more so thank you, Luke. Let's transition to the

777
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: actual fight we heard from Canelo.

778
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 9: There.

779
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: You heard the confidence level, you heard the respect he

780
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: does have for Mongia. But all along he's been talking

781
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: about this fight not going the disc since let's start

782
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: right there, does this fight go that?

783
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 3: Probably? Probably? I think of all the outcomes that one

784
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: seems like a decent one.

785
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 5: There are there are there is an argument that I mean,

786
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 5: I guess you could say Canelo could get stopped, but

787
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 5: I don't think that's very strong.

788
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about a guy who's had a

789
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: ridiculous change.

790
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 4: Let's just put it out there, never been dropped as

791
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 4: a professional in sixty four pro fights over nineteen years,

792
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 4: and has been visibly rocked one time.

793
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: And it was in twenty ten.

794
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 5: That's right, so possible, but that seems unlike remarkable. That

795
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 5: seems unlike. That's remarkable, it's insane. It's insane, like Chris

796
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 5: al Jerry was saying his chin is just absurd and

797
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: it is okay, So that seems unlikely. What is possible

798
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 5: is Mumgia could get stopped. We're talking about an elite

799
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 5: counterpuncher and a guy in Mumgia who leaves a lot

800
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 5: of defensive openings, or at least has historically. On the

801
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 5: other side, there is also one where Mungia gets rocked

802
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: but survives, and then the fight goes late and becomes

803
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 5: much more competitive ly. I tend to think that's the

804
00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 5: likeliest one.

805
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, about a minus five hundred betting favorite has been

806
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 4: Canelo throughout the week on DraftKings, and around plus four

807
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: hundred or so is Mangia as the underdog. Freddie roach

808
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: factor doesn't lead me to believe we're going to see

809
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: like the last fight, basically the best escalated performance of

810
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 4: Mangia's career. The real question becomes, luke.

811
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: Does that even matter?

812
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: Though we know what Canelo does best, it's the single

813
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 4: shot counterpunches.

814
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: It's not just that, though, it's everything he can.

815
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: Dude, when he walked down Billy Joe Saunders, he walked

816
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 4: down Callum Smith, Caleb Plant. Canelo can beat you with

817
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: any kind of style, But I think what is most

818
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 4: important in their respective histories and trying to handicap this

819
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: fight is what Canelo does great, like Dravante does, like

820
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: Floyd did, is lowering the output, making it a single

821
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 4: move chess match at close distance. And you just simply

822
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 4: can't deal with Canelo at that point because of the experience,

823
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: the combination of speed, power, accuracy and all that. Can

824
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: Mangia avoid the fight falling into those traps. Can he

825
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: essentially spam and commit to that gas pedal to give

826
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 4: himself the best chance if it does, go to the scorecards,

827
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: to try to win these.

828
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: Rounds on volume, on body punching, on.

829
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: Attacking, because typically Canelo disciplines his opponents away from that

830
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 4: strategy early will monkey.

831
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: It'll be different this time because we can't. We can't

832
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: factor out this. This is a Mexico holiday. This you know,

833
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: maybe Mexicans don't treat single to mio. It's not in

834
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: the traditional level, but in the boxing space. This is

835
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. Okay, So Mongia does seem to be

836
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: that dude. He's dedicated.

837
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's skilled enough to be Canelo, but dedicated,

838
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 4: willing to walk through the fire history of a good

839
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 4: chin in a durability. Can he get past that initial

840
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 4: defense of Canelo to make this a competitive fight?

841
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: Yes? I think he can.

842
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 5: I have at least at least in parts for sure.

843
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 5: I think he can absolutely do that. I want to

844
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 5: say something though, you had mentioned like what does a

845
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 5: Freddy roach factor really mean? And I thought Chris Algery's

846
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: analysis of it yesterday was pretty good, which was that's

847
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 5: a guy you're hiring to fine tune things. Sure, but

848
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 5: we need to be honest about something when you've got

849
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 5: a guy like Mungia and I don't know exactly what

850
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 5: fred is all the things he's doing with Munggia, like

851
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 5: what what tunings? However, fine, the gradiot may be what

852
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 5: he did. What I'll say is this, if part of

853
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 5: it is working on a couple of defensive situations, when

854
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 5: you're here, hand should be here, head should be here, whatever,

855
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 5: I actually think that could be transformative to his chances

856
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 5: of winning. Right, we're talking about a guy like, does

857
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 5: he have enough firepower not to so much match Canelo

858
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 5: but in his own way overpower him.

859
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 3: Yes, that he absolutely does have that.

860
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 5: But the thing that keeps you from necessarily committing to

861
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 5: something like about his chances of victory with respect to

862
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 5: that is because you just don't know the defense is

863
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 5: going to hold up. Well, dude, what if Freddy solves

864
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 5: for a couple of common situations that Kimi Mungghia is

865
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 5: in that now you've closed off those defensive openings.

866
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 6: Do that?

867
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 5: I mean the fight could change dramatically what we think

868
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 5: as a consequence or something like that. So when we

869
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 5: talk about the Freddie roach factor, it's not like Freddy's

870
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 5: trying to work on a thousand things, but the one

871
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 5: or two things he might be trying to fix could

872
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 5: pay enormous dividends, no question about it.

873
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 4: Okay, we saw Mangia in the face off at Wednesday's

874
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: press conference, and in any part of this tour he's

875
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 4: taller than Canelo. Would you say he's bigger though, because

876
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: Canelo it's more about the thickness right size does all right,

877
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 4: We're we're going on the wrong road.

878
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 5: But he's bigger than Canelo. Yes, but both guys obviously

879
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 5: sapped to my right yesterday. No Mungia is much his

880
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 5: frame is much bigger than Canelo's. Canel obviously they're gonna

881
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 5: wig and they're gonna be the same size or whatever,

882
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 5: But No Mughia is a bigger guy.

883
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: For By the way, the way in got moved to

884
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: twelve pm at Pacific three pm Eastern time later today.

885
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: Of course you can catch that streaming on with PBC

886
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 2: on Prime Video on de Zonne and all that. Look,

887
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: they're doing it outside at Toshiba Plaza, outside the arena,

888
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: which was the same way they did it for Tank

889
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: versus Ryan with that incredible overflow crowd should be pretty

890
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: well that.

891
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: They did it for. They did it for Canilo, Charlow too.

892
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 4: It was good indeed, indeed, all right, let's let's get there, Luke,

893
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 4: Let's get to our predictions. Let's put your money where

894
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 4: you're damn mouth is right, the same mouth that you're

895
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 4: shoveling in Pad Tai with your fingers last night.

896
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: Like an absolute barn animal.

897
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: Yes, Luke Thomas, how's this fight end prediction? What are

898
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: we doing here Saturday night?

899
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: Here's what I think Mumgia is up against.

900
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 5: I actually do, especially after the whole Garcia thing, which

901
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 5: I know we're gonna talk about here a little while,

902
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 5: but after a weekend like that, you definitely want to

903
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 5: be careful about riding off underdogs. So I actually do

904
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 5: think there is a world, a realistic one, where Mungia

905
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 5: can win. But the problem I think he's up against

906
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 5: is I don't think he can stop Canelo. I definitely

907
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 5: think Canelo is gonna win rounds, potentially stop, but well,

908
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 5: let's just say it goes to a decision. I definitely

909
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 5: think Canelo is gonna win a lot of rounds just

910
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 5: because he's better. And then you just talk about the

911
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 5: Canelo factor always winning on the cards when you think

912
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 5: he's going to lose, especially in Vegas, it happens so frequently.

913
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 5: If you're Mongia, I don't know if you can win

914
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 5: by decision. I think you kind of almost have to

915
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 5: win via stoppage in Vegas, and I don't see that

916
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 5: as the likeliest outcome decision.

917
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 4: And the thing is for him to win a decision,

918
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 4: I think he's got to hurt Canelo, you know what

919
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And I don't just don't necessarily see that

920
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 4: as well.

921
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's going to be interesting.

922
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 4: The best case scenario, whether Canelo ultimately does the job

923
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: or not for entertainment factor, is that there's an impact

924
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 4: that Mongia gets inside that we see Canelo have to

925
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 4: fight his way out. I do think that'll be true.

926
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 4: I'm still picking Canelo ultimately. I'm picking him by decision

927
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: because I think the moment. I think Mungi is big

928
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: enough for the moment, is what I'm saying.

929
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 5: Anything else, Oh, yes, no, No, Like dude, I I

930
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you, I'm watching this fight very curiously.

931
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 5: I am, because I think even here's what I'm kind

932
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 5: of looking to see. This is kind of what my

933
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 5: my real hunch of hunches is. But I don't know

934
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 5: if it's true. It's just just a hunch. My hunch

935
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 5: is that Munguia might lose, but in the process of

936
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 5: losing get very close at times and make Canelo potentially

937
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 5: look vulnerable in ways that we didn't necessarily see from

938
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 5: previous bones save for Bibel. But Bibel was a big

939
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 5: one to seventy five and very skilled and very skilled.

940
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 5: Mungia is not as skilled as Bivl. I'm just saying.

941
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, is that is that realistic? I don't

942
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 5: know if it's what we're going to get, but I

943
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 5: don't think that's crazy to consider.

944
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: You think this is one of those occasions where the

945
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: more ballsy Mongia tries to become, the more he tries

946
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: to risk it all to win it, the easier it

947
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 4: might become for Canelo to finish him.

948
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 5: Although here's the interesting part. So let me ask you

949
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 5: this in a different way. Let's say Mungia is, you know,

950
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 5: like almost like a bit of a Spence Crawford kindynamic,

951
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 5: not that bad, but one guy's coming forward, can't really

952
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 5: get going, is getting chipped up a little bit as

953
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 5: a consequence.

954
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: What happens to Mungia do you think now?

955
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 5: Does he make good decisions about trying to stick behind

956
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 5: the jab the left he's got a good left hook right.

957
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: Does he do that?

958
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 5: Or does it rattle him and he begins to make

959
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 5: a series of worse decisions to try to come back

960
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 5: against Canelo.

961
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm wondering about that too.

962
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 4: The only proof we can go is the history of

963
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 4: him in close fights, and we have seen him hurt,

964
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 4: We've seen him hert against Derevinchenko right off the start

965
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 4: and throughout that great fight which a year it was

966
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: a year and a half. Agot was a Fight of

967
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 4: the Year contender. He blew through Rider. I do think

968
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: we've got enough history because he has been in some

969
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: brawls that he fights well under duress. It is different

970
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: against Canelo, but he does fight well while hurt comes

971
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: back with combinations. He's going to have to do that.

972
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: I ultimately think the best thing he'll do in this fight.

973
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 4: He won't win it, but the best thing he'll do

974
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 4: is make Canelo fight. They will have pockets of insanity

975
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 4: in this fight. I'm looking forward to it. I think

976
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: the crowd's going to be out an eleven before they

977
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 4: even start.

978
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be high.

979
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Right.

980
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 4: If you want to put your money where your mouth is,

981
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 4: like we were talking about, it's a great time to

982
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985
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986
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Speaker 4: new customers that is tied around Canelo versus Mongia and

987
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995
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Speaker 3: Like that, very simple.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look at this guy.

1017
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: Are you talking about the team Hoka out there in

1018
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: the crowd.

1019
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 5: Now, there's a guy on his he's driving or he was.

1020
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 5: He was driving his actual cart like Rascal. No, No,

1021
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 5: he had his suitcase, had a motor on it and

1022
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 5: he was driving it. Yes, all right, was he?

1023
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 2: Do you think he had old balls?

1024
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: I mean like a piece of pizza being pulled away

1025
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: from the pie that cheese.

1026
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 4: Just they hear us out there as we're hey, what's up.

1027
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 4: It's great seeing you guys. Oh yeah, Team Holka.

1028
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: I love these guys.

1029
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah that's great. All right, that's great cash cash that

1030
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: guy outside? How about that?

1031
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 4: All right, let's go into topic number two on this

1032
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 4: day or three based on the John Jones ad.

1033
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: But you get the point. Look, it's a interesting one.

1034
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 4: In boxing, we saw Ryan Garcia score an upset majority

1035
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: decision just break through victory. A couple of weeks back

1036
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn over Devin Haney, we know more or less

1037
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 4: purposely missed wait to come in almost three and a

1038
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 4: half pounds over. Hainey still went on with the fight,

1039
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 4: of course, for the financial penalty. But Luke, the news

1040
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 4: in the past few days has really gone the other

1041
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 4: way for Ryan Garcia as now the Vada Voluntary Anti

1042
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 4: Doping Agency has caught him positive for multiple filed drug

1043
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 4: tests on the day before and day of of the

1044
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 4: fight for the banned substance osteen, along with what is

1045
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 4: it traces or teases?

1046
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: How would you explain the second drug, which is the

1047
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: more important.

1048
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 5: One, a metabolite of nandrolone, which is an anabolic steroid.

1049
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 3: Damn.

1050
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 2: So, Luke, is it.

1051
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 4: Interesting to you that Oscar de la Hoya, after Wednesday's

1052
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 4: press conference, which was right before when this Ryan Garcia

1053
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: news broke, didn't end up coming to Radio Row this week?

1054
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: Is that yeah?

1055
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 5: I think it was pretty conspicuous, although he did talk

1056
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 5: to ESPN, So I don't know if you guys saw this,

1057
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 5: but apparently Oscar, through his lawyers, has issued a ceased

1058
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 5: and assist letter to Canelo accusing him of being defamed

1059
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 5: and for him to stop making comments related to are

1060
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 5: you stealing from fighters?

1061
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: Immediately? Did you see this?

1062
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: I did not see that.

1063
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did it.

1064
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 5: It was ESPN's Mike Coppinger reported this, and Canelo's lawyer

1065
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 5: responded apparently like, yeah, he said what he said, and

1066
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 5: we're not going to take it back. So I don't

1067
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 5: know what's going to happen there. But yet, to your point,

1068
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 5: you would have thought he would want to get back

1069
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 5: out there. And really, I mean, after he made such

1070
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 5: a fuss on at one Wednesday, you would have thought

1071
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 5: he would have been there on Thursday, and he was

1072
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 5: nowhere to be found. And I think having to answer

1073
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 5: for Ryan Garcia is what appears to be at best negligence.

1074
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 3: Is not fun.

1075
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: Sure, so Ryan Garcia has denied this public League Golden

1076
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: Boy Promotions put out a statement saying they.

1077
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 4: Believe Ryan, but Luke, this is hard to swallow. We

1078
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: had a great chat with Ariel Hawani yesterday about the

1079
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 4: impact of this. We expect the fight in the New

1080
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: York State Commission, which is a very stringent commission. We'll

1081
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 4: make this without question a no contest. I do agree

1082
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 4: with er what Ariel said yesterday in the terms that

1083
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: this will just jack up the interest for the rematch.

1084
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: But in the short term, are we expecting suspensions fines

1085
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 4: for Garcia? And do you believe Devin Handy could seek

1086
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 4: like legal action against.

1087
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 5: I don't know what Devin Hanny's legal options are. I

1088
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 5: think it's the two for the fact that the guy

1089
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 5: missed weight and could have up to two antidoping violations

1090
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 5: for two different substances again, one of which is an

1091
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 5: anabolic steroid. If it comes through, which I, by the way,

1092
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 5: can I just put my chips in?

1093
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: Like, is this where in Vegas go all in?

1094
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 5: Is that is the isotobe ratio magnetic spectrometry exam. Is

1095
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 5: that going to actually implicate an indict Garcia or exonerate him.

1096
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 5: I think it's going to indict him. I do not

1097
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 5: think it's going to exonerate him at all. Okay, So

1098
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 5: if that comes through, for sure, suspension. We're talking about

1099
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 5: New York. This is not a commission that is typically

1100
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 5: lenient relative to other ones. Certainly, definitely they're going to

1101
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 5: overturn the result. Definitely, they're going to find him. How

1102
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 5: much That part is hard to say, because he will

1103
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 5: mount some defense and that will mitigate it to an extent.

1104
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 5: I would say, you might see a year ban from them,

1105
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 5: probably not more, which may not mean much in the

1106
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 5: end to a twenty five.

1107
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: Year old, but I would be surprised if they gave

1108
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: him a two year band.

1109
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 5: He might say, oh, well, he's only banned in New

1110
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 5: York if that happens, But as you might know, every

1111
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 5: other state will honor the band from New York, and

1112
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 5: some other commissions internationally will also honor that. He could,

1113
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 5: in theory go to Saudi Arabia and take a fight,

1114
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 5: but then he would be imperiling his license licensing by

1115
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 5: the time he returned to the States at any point, right,

1116
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 5: because he'd be like commission shopping.

1117
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: At that point.

1118
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: So normally this would be a disastrous result for a

1119
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: fighter in his brand.

1120
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 6: I know.

1121
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: Canelo also popped ahead of the glove can rematch.

1122
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 4: He tried to explain it away on the tainted beef

1123
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: in Mexico, and you can argue that to some degree

1124
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 4: that stain has been almost completely forgotten or removed from

1125
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: his But look, I questioned to double down on the Wow,

1126
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 4: this is horrible for Ryan Garcia's brand and his image

1127
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 4: when just about everything he's done lately seems to have

1128
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 4: been horrible for his brand or image, along with the

1129
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 4: debate of whether it was trolling and purposely done. Is

1130
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 4: this almost in your eyes comparable to the Chail.

1131
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 2: Sun In situation.

1132
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 4: Although Child didn't end up be ding Anderson Silva, it

1133
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 4: didn't ultimately really matter that he popped afterwards or not,

1134
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 4: because he could a little bit a lot of what

1135
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 4: he's trying to do, which was.

1136
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: Establish himself get over on that level.

1137
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 4: Do you think to some degree fans aren't like it'll

1138
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 4: be a no contest now, but fans are always going

1139
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 4: to remember that as a Garcia win no matter what.

1140
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 4: I don't know that this is going to necessarily like

1141
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 4: slow him in the court of public opinions.

1142
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 5: So I would agree with a big portion of that

1143
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 5: there is there are certain gains that Garcia achieved through

1144
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 5: this victory that will not get clawed back.

1145
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: They're just there and they're baked in. People like that

1146
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: he shut up all the experts.

1147
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 5: People liked that he was it was action oriented, right,

1148
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 5: the three knockdowns, blah blah blah. People liked that he

1149
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 5: kind of did things on his terms and then succeeded,

1150
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 5: even though some of those terms were obviously even if

1151
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 5: his supporters acknowledge he was you know, fucking around. So

1152
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 5: some of that you can't claw back. However, I think

1153
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 5: some of it you can't. This is less so to me,

1154
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 5: devastating for Garcia's brand and as a talent people want

1155
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 5: to see. And I do think it is just enough

1156
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 5: of a lifeline for Devin Haney. Devin Haney is the

1157
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 5: one here who can say, hey, he might be on

1158
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 5: Scotten sou and again he might he might be on

1159
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 5: It's exactly right. He at least can plausibly say this

1160
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 5: guy was on steroids. Again, we'll see what happens, but like,

1161
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 5: this guy was on steroids and he intentionally missed. Wait,

1162
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 5: that's too many factors to overcome on one night. I

1163
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 5: wasn't fighting a fair fight, you know, And I think

1164
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 5: that will mitigate some of the damage that has happened

1165
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 5: from this.

1166
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 4: Well, the evidence seems to be, you know, piling up

1167
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: against Ryan, but let's give him a chance, based on

1168
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 4: what he put out on social media to defend himself.

1169
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: Here was one of Ryan's immediate reactions in this Instagram video.

1170
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 6: What's up, everybody? Uh, I came on here to address

1171
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 6: this cool fucking shit claim that I cheated. Everybody knows

1172
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 6: that I don't cheat. What can I say? You know,

1173
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 6: why didn't they come out with this before you know,

1174
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 6: the fight? If they found it beforehy would they let

1175
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 6: me step into the ring as a cheater and they

1176
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 6: come out with the victory and then they post this.

1177
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 6: You know again, these are people that are trying to

1178
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 6: attack me for whatever reason, but no weapon against me

1179
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 6: shall prosper. I never taken a steroid them. I don't

1180
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 6: even know where to get steroids at the end of

1181
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 6: the day. I barely you know, take supplements. They're saying

1182
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 6: it's coming from the OSA. That's fucking retarded, so big lies.

1183
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 6: I beat his ass fucked out of here. Everybody go

1184
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 6: to Warwick tonight.

1185
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: It's lit and fuck well, look that was articulated.

1186
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 4: The cure of the ashwaganda bottle that he was touting

1187
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 4: on social media. Came out on Twitter and said, under

1188
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 4: no circumstances as their austring within our product, despite public

1189
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: concern of late and they just basically buried him. He

1190
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: even put in the in the title of that Instagram

1191
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: video like I'm Donald Trump. So it was very like

1192
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: Trump Eskue in a way of just denied, deny, deny.

1193
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, despite being obviously guilty.

1194
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1195
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 4: He also seemed to at some point blame it on Diddy.

1196
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 4: Let's go to a couple of his tweets here in

1197
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 4: succession to see some other thoughts from Ryan related to this.

1198
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: Look, he's on the Jesus steroid.

1199
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, him and him Manuel Romero, you

1200
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 3: know exactly there.

1201
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: It is there, it is soldier of God. Let's go

1202
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: to the next one.

1203
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 4: Why in the world would I volunteer for a drug

1204
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 4: test if I planned on taking drugs making.

1205
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 5: Cause if you signed a contract that you would, and

1206
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 5: if you don't, you imperil the fight.

1207
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 3: That's why he.

1208
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 5: Said on the video. Why would they have let me

1209
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 5: fought if I was doing it? Yeah, Ryan doesn't seem

1210
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 5: to know much about how the world works. There is

1211
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 5: no such thing this guy. It's not a COVID test.

1212
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 5: They don't put a swab up your nose and then

1213
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 5: stick it in the thing and then it fight like.

1214
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 5: They have to collect your piss and blood and they

1215
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 5: have to send it to a specialized lab which sometimes

1216
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 5: is across state lines sometimes and then they have to

1217
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 5: wait for that lab to screen and process everything. It takes,

1218
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,240
Speaker 5: at quickest about seventy two hours, and sometimes significantly longer

1219
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 5: than that. It's not possible to do it in the

1220
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 5: way which he's talking about. So this sample collection on

1221
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 5: the nineteenth, they didn't get the results until several days

1222
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 5: past that. That's why he was allowed to compete.

1223
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 4: This isn't the same debate of like, shouldn't they have

1224
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 4: caught the brock Lesner tests before you have?

1225
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 5: So the brock Lesster test is a little bit different,

1226
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 5: and the reason why is because he got the six

1227
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 5: month exemption to join back, so they waived any sense

1228
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 5: of like, hey, we're not even gonna bother screening this guy.

1229
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 5: Fuck it, We're gonna wave it. And then this one

1230
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 5: is Dude, I want to say this one more time.

1231
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 5: I actually love VADA for a very clear reason. Voluntary

1232
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 5: voluntary anti doping agency.

1233
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: It's cheaper than the other ones.

1234
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 5: It's cheaper than the other ones, and ultimately, the boxers

1235
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 5: have so much leverage you signed up for it. My

1236
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 5: number one thing that drove me nuts about you sad

1237
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 5: in the UFC is that the fighters never had a

1238
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 5: choice to not sign up. You have a choice here

1239
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 5: and you still do it. You are now responsible for

1240
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 5: those results.

1241
00:54:59,480 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 3: Period.

1242
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: Got to get your reaction to Ryan's final tweet on

1243
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: the situation if we can throw to that maniche in

1244
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: the control room and the folks.

1245
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: For sure, Luke, So is he saying to us that

1246
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: he's gay?

1247
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: He said, if I took the steroids of.

1248
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 5: I know, I know what you wrote.

1249
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, is he now telling us he's gay? Hop?

1250
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: Why has casual homophobia returned to Combats?

1251
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: Well, some would say it never left. Unfortunately never left,

1252
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 2: but it's.

1253
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: A little bit more in your face these days. And

1254
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering. I didn't get a memo about like why.

1255
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: This is all of a sudden, Like was it menel

1256
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: Coop who brought that back into.

1257
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 5: That one night where everyone was just it was just

1258
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 5: six letter half where it's like elprah like you're an F,

1259
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 5: You're an F.

1260
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, it's nineteen ninety two. I

1261
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 3: didn't know.

1262
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: Does how does this news you think affect who he

1263
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: fights next or who HAINI fights next? Like what do

1264
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 2: you think the future is for this area of exciting young.

1265
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 5: Dude, there's no denying people are gonna want to fight

1266
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 5: Ryan Garcia just because, not just I would have said

1267
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 5: after the Tank fight, before the Hany fight, because they

1268
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 5: want an easy fight. But I realized I certain undersold

1269
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 5: how good Garcia actually is. And by the way you're

1270
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 5: asking just my personal sense. We see how much does

1271
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 5: the potential and I think inevitable antidoping issues he encountered.

1272
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 5: How much is that undercut the fight plus the weight

1273
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 5: miss It does matter to me. But I also think

1274
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 5: that Ryan Garcia had a good game plan and he

1275
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 5: also did fight very very well technically, not just athletically.

1276
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 5: Two things can be true at once.

1277
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 4: Yes, he cheated by in a sense by messing with

1278
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 4: the way, well the flood's done it before, it's a

1279
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 4: strategic move. He cheated in a sense by tricking us

1280
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 4: all into this facade that wasn't real, and he potentially

1281
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 4: cheated now with the drug test. But he also put

1282
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 4: forth the best performance of his career, and he also

1283
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 4: matured in some very key ways poised defense, all that stuff,

1284
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 4: it can all be true. But the Haini rematch will

1285
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 4: be big now, it will be very big. And before

1286
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 4: I forget, I want to get.

1287
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 5: People are going to want to fight Ryan Garcia because

1288
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 5: he's now a big name. I do wonder what New

1289
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 5: York will do. I'm gonna I'm gonna say I think

1290
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 5: a year to year and a half most is what

1291
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 5: they suspect.

1292
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 4: What do you think about how Ryan has called out

1293
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 4: Errol Spence? So Ryan's being now trained by Derek James,

1294
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 4: who was Errol Spence's trainer.

1295
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 2: They have a big lawsuit against each other.

1296
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 4: They both filed separate ones because essentially their contract, or

1297
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 4: their verbal agreement handshake deal was that James would always

1298
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 4: make Derek James would make ten percent of all of

1299
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 4: Spence's purse. But the debate here is that Spence's listed

1300
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 4: perse was two and a half million something like that,

1301
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 4: but he made the majority of his money on the

1302
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 4: Crawford Spence fight from the back end. So Derek James

1303
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 4: wants the ten percent off the back end and feels

1304
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 4: he's owed upwards of five million. Did you see Ryan

1305
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 4: going public and saying like, why don't I fight Errol then?

1306
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: Over this beef? Do you be done with that? Ryan

1307
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: going on to fifty.

1308
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 5: Four and I would be very happy to see that fight.

1309
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 5: I don't again. Okay, I've been wrong about Ryan Garcia

1310
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 5: quite badly. I would favor Spence to win that, but

1311
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 5: you know, yes, but with.

1312
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 4: Spence needing to prove to us that he still got it,

1313
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 4: that would be interesting timing. So quickly though, Connor McGregor

1314
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 4: tweeted and then deleted, dude, what was now?

1315
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 2: Remember now? Remember this.

1316
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 4: Connor McGregor was in the locker room with Ryan Garcia

1317
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 4: after his loss to Tank Davis in Las Vegas last year.

1318
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 4: You saw the viral video of him very aggressively say no, no, Ryan,

1319
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 4: the rematch, You're gonna get him.

1320
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: And here's how you know all that. He has tried

1321
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: to publicly support Ryan since then, but in a post

1322
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: on X that's now deleted, McGregor wrote, cheated the weight

1323
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: and was juiced Lifetime band sad to see sad to say,

1324
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: sad and a bit sick. Don't come near me if

1325
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: I see you ever again, Ryan Garcia. I am actually

1326
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: disgusted luke your thoughts on that one.

1327
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 3: He told him to kill himself.

1328
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: Oh there was more?

1329
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 3: No, Oh yeah, dude, there's well more.

1330
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: Because he deleted it.

1331
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 5: I can't read the rest of oh yeah, no, no, no,

1332
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 5: he went much further than that. He wrote it all caps.

1333
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 5: It was like something like do something or kill yourself.

1334
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 3: And Okay, the only.

1335
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: Issue with him saying that, or you know, even Hainy

1336
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: to some degree because Canty, I guess in ways could

1337
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: sue him. I'm not really sure.

1338
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 4: But don't we all under operate mess our producer brought

1339
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 4: this up yesterday. Don't we all already under kind of

1340
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 4: operate under the belief that everyone's using, so that if

1341
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 4: you get caught, it's more that use.

1342
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: This is why you screwed up the masking of it.

1343
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 5: People.

1344
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: Let's be honest. Yeah, I believe, ultimately, I believe more

1345
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: are using than not.

1346
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: So certainly more are using than not. I mean, that's

1347
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 3: just a reality.

1348
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 5: This is the thing I keep trying to come back

1349
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 5: to with people about this, and I understand it does

1350
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 5: bring you to uncomfortable places and not easy answers, but

1351
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 5: this is the reality. And I keep saying this, Guys,

1352
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 5: Drugs are here, they are not going away. You have

1353
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 5: to find a way to make peace with their usage

1354
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 5: and frankly their ubiquity, and so as a consequence PC

1355
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like people have like really just

1356
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 5: vastly unrealistic views about how to fix these problems. It's

1357
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 5: not that if you listen, if you sign a contract

1358
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 5: saying you're not going to use, of course you should

1359
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 5: not use. You signed a deal and the other person

1360
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 5: may have honored that. It's a completely unfair advantage. There's

1361
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 5: no This is a very obvious thing. The thing I'm

1362
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 5: trying to get across to people is, like, dude, the

1363
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 5: majority of them are probably using something, or at least

1364
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 5: have used something in the course of their career. If

1365
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 5: they're not using RED at this very moment, they've been users.

1366
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 5: We have to find a way to deal with this

1367
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 5: in an honest and traceable and a way that helps

1368
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 5: us better understand the usage, what it does, what it doesn't,

1369
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 5: how it benefits, give us a sense of things, and

1370
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 5: also just to make the theater of anti doping.

1371
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 3: That's what people love. They love the theater of it,

1372
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 3: but it's not really all that effective.

1373
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1374
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: Plus, you know, as Luke's T shirts told us so

1375
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: many times.

1376
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 3: Who wins the war the drugs? The drugs are or

1377
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 3: the law enforcement. The drugs win. Every time those guys out.

1378
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: There know about a lot about drugs, right, They've won,

1379
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 2: They've been in the drugs wars for a year. Oh

1380
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: they walked by. You know, we we have admirers.

1381
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 3: Oh look at this one.

1382
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 4: If you do coul hair, Luke, you know their hair

1383
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 4: on vacation. Maybe hit the slots, you know what I mean.

1384
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 4: Maybe catch that, maybe catch that. Beatles love show they

1385
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 4: her leg before it goes away.

1386
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 3: It's it's good. There you go.

1387
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 4: So that's the news on Ryan Garcia. Also though, of

1388
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 4: course Saturday, I know you're fired up. Well, some of

1389
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 4: you hardcorees are fired up for anything the UFC's putting

1390
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 4: out these but in Brazil Rio to be exact, how

1391
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 4: about this UFC three oh one goes down this weekend. Yes,

1392
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 4: I know you hate when I say it's coming off

1393
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 4: and launching in the hangover of the post. UFC three

1394
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 4: hundred where the deepest card in the history of the sport,

1395
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 4: and boy did it live up to it.

1396
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: Well.

1397
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 4: The offering sense then are what they are. But Luke,

1398
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 4: there are a few fights we definitely love on this card.

1399
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 4: Chief of them, of course, is that main event Flyway

1400
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 4: champion Alexandre Pantosia make looking to make his second defense

1401
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 4: after his rematch with Brandon Royval earlier. A couple months back.

1402
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 4: This is quick turnaround here, but he's headlining in Rio,

1403
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 4: in his home city, and he's got a live dog

1404
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 4: across from him. Perth, Western Australia's owned Steve Erseg twelve

1405
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 4: and one. Just eleven months in the UFC three and

1406
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 4: zero in Luke Thomas. That one punch knockout of Matt

1407
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 4: Schnell in his last fight really woke up a lot

1408
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 4: of folks. If people don't know yet how freaking good

1409
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 4: is Steve Versus.

1410
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 5: Steve ver Sek is a live dog. Steve ver Sek

1411
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 5: is a live dog. You asked me about Mungia's chan

1412
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 5: is against Canelo, and I take them seriously.

1413
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: I do think.

1414
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 5: I don't again, do I think it's the likeliest outcome

1415
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 5: that Mungia gets it done. I don't think that's the

1416
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 5: likeliest one BC. But I take him seriously. I do

1417
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 5: take him seriously. I take Steve Steve. I think Steve ver.

1418
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 3: Sik's chances of upsetting Pantoja is much higher.

1419
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: Listen and the odd show you that it's about minus

1420
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: one hundred plus one hundred more or less.

1421
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 3: People are like, who's Steve Versak? He looks like a

1422
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: Best Buy employee. Yes, he does. That's my favorite kind

1423
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:24,959
Speaker 3: of fighter.

1424
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: Maybe Circuit City. Back in the day, if you're a

1425
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 2: trustake guy, did.

1426
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 6: You have that?

1427
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah we had City? Yeah did I.

1428
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 5: I used to shoplift them Circuit City all the time.

1429
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 5: Maybe that's why they went under. Anyway, the point I'm

1430
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 5: trying to make is he looks like a Circuit City employee.

1431
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 5: He looks like a guy who would need to open

1432
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 5: the cabinet for you so you can buy laundry detergent

1433
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 5: at Target. They put it a cabinet in major cities

1434
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 5: they do. Now people are stealing you turn it into drugs. No,

1435
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 5: people are still No. People are stealing some of the

1436
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 5: stuff and then selling it down the street at illegally.

1437
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: Damn. You can make meth out of anything these days

1438
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 2: with laundering.

1439
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 5: You can definitely do that with like like NyQuil and

1440
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 5: stuff like that. Anyway, Steve Verseeg has a real shot

1441
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 5: here at becoming a UFC Flyway champion. I know that

1442
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 5: sounds crazy. He has not accomplished what Pantoja has accomplished.

1443
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 5: That's not what I'm arguing, nor am I saying it's

1444
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 5: the likeliest outcome, But it is to me listen. It

1445
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 5: all hinges on to what extent er Seg can either

1446
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 5: stop the takedown, stop the back take, or if the

1447
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,959
Speaker 5: back take or the takedown is established, to what extent

1448
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 5: can he negate it, and then to what extent can

1449
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 5: he return to his feet. I actually feel like he'll

1450
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 5: do a pretty good job of this BC perfect Probably not.

1451
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 5: Will he be imperiled. Absolutely. Pantoja's operation from the back

1452
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 5: is fantastic, and we should note also he doesn't need

1453
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 5: to go the traditional takedown pass guard you go to turtle,

1454
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 5: he takes the back.

1455
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 3: You don't have to do that with Pantoja.

1456
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 5: He loves to get behind the waist matt return, you

1457
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 5: force you to your hands, and then when you do,

1458
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 5: he's on your back. I would say that al Ja

1459
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 5: man Sterling has probably some of the best back taking

1460
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 5: and holding in the UFC. Pantoj is right there, pretty

1461
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 5: close with him, very very good. But I do think

1462
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 5: there's a case to make that Erseg can take a

1463
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 5: lot of that away, and we have already known there'll

1464
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 5: be times as the fight goes longer, Pantojo will strike

1465
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 5: it out with you and just take punishment. He cannot

1466
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 5: afford to do that against Steve ver Sik. Steve Verseeg

1467
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 5: is a much better boxer, and I want to be

1468
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 5: very clear about this. His timing and precision, especially behind

1469
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 5: his jab, is very good. If Pantoja, I'm gonna say this,

1470
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 5: if Pantoja exchanges with Erseg for more than a few

1471
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,919
Speaker 5: minutes at a time, he is gonna lose.

1472
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: I firmly believe that the question is to what extent

1473
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 3: can he.

1474
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: Mix it up? So this is what I wonder. I

1475
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 2: wonder this about the main event, in the co main event,

1476
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: which we'll get into involved in Jose Aldo.

1477
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 4: The crowd's gonna be on fire at this in Rio

1478
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 4: here like no question about it. They're always a great crowd.

1479
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: I've seen Pantosa say things like I'm glad that Jose

1480
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: Aldo is on this card because I want to show

1481
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 2: him that I am really like the most exciting person

1482
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: million fighter of Walter or whatever term he used. It's

1483
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: like I want to show him.

1484
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 4: Where I belong and sort of this history, and boy,

1485
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 4: is this a decorated history when you're talking about some

1486
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 4: of the greatest fighters and champions the UFC.

1487
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: Has ever seen. Is doesn't this play against Pantoja in

1488
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 2: this matchup.

1489
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 4: Should he try to take on that same persona that

1490
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 4: won him the title against Brandon Moreno where it was

1491
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 4: just it turned into caveman style fighting and we were

1492
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 4: better for it.

1493
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 2: We watched it.

1494
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 3: That's not Steve Versik, that's not him at all.

1495
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 4: And it's like, even though Pantosia, yes, is going to

1496
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 4: have an advantage on the ground, I love Steve ver

1497
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 4: Sick has more submissions than he has knockouts.

1498
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 5: I mean he is, yeah, but he's not. He's again.

1499
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 5: Can he defensively hold his own That's really the big question.

1500
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 5: I think he probably can, but I don't think it's

1501
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 5: fair to say he's competitively as good on the ground

1502
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 5: as Pantoja.

1503
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: I think Pantoja's level is a lot higher.

1504
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 2: No, if we had this.

1505
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 5: Conversation, we had this conversation with Royval who is also

1506
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 5: good on the ground. But it's that combination of good wrestling,

1507
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 5: good aggress What's what is he known for on the feet?

1508
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 5: Aggressiveness on the ground, Dude, he's passing guard. He doesn't

1509
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 5: wait around. He's passed, he's taken the back, he's advancing position.

1510
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if first is gonna be in trouble

1511
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: on the ground.

1512
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean that's this is that's what the entire

1513
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 5: fight hinges there. Sure, and also it's the same thing

1514
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 5: with Rouval. Rouval was good enough to avoid being subbed, right,

1515
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 5: he could go. He had good enough defense where basically

1516
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 5: they were he was kind of neutralized, but he couldn't

1517
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 5: do anything. But he couldn't get up. The question is

1518
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 5: can Ersig get up? The raw dog can get up?

1519
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 2: For sure? Okay.

1520
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 4: A friend of the program, Brandon Royval, by the way,

1521
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 4: what do you think about Steve Urseg saying, you know,

1522
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 4: if not if, but when I beat Pantosia, I want

1523
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 4: my first title defense to be against Brandon v who

1524
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 4: then quote tweeted and was like, hell, yeah, let's work

1525
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 4: it on.

1526
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 3: Let's up. Let's absolutely do it best best buy versus

1527
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 3: no condom. Let's do it.

1528
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: You go there, you go, uh luke, let's let's let's

1529
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 2: break this down. Then what is it going to look like?

1530
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 5: Uh?

1531
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 4: I just hope for Pantosa's sake, he doesn't buy too

1532
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 4: much into the crowd and play up and go into

1533
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 4: the war because you got to be careful with this

1534
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 4: guy or Seg. But Pantosia is riding a momentum, streak

1535
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 4: of confidence at the moment, like we are seeing the

1536
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 4: best of him. Ever, how much longer is that sustainable

1537
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 4: in a division where the belt can become hot potato? Luke,

1538
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 4: I mean Pantosa's trying to establish the first level of

1539
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 4: sustainability to the championship in a while since Henry Shudo,

1540
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 4: which was very short lived, right, I mean, since we've

1541
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 4: seen the hot potato of the great four part figureto

1542
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 4: rivalry with Moreno, what do we end up seeing? Brand

1543
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 4: Like if Pantosia wins this, this is a title reign, Luke.

1544
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 4: This he's putting some stuff together in a division where

1545
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 4: it's hard to do that. But the more I break

1546
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 4: it down, the more I look at it, Man, this

1547
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 4: could be Steve ver sex Night. It's really good.

1548
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 3: Pantojia is thirty four years old. At one twenty five.

1549
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 5: Now again we're not at the thirty five mark the

1550
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 5: dreaded one, But if you actually look at the data,

1551
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 5: the real decline starts at thirty four or seg doesn't

1552
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 5: have the same experience just twelve and one twenty eight

1553
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 5: years old?

1554
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: Is he mentally tough enough to deal with the hostile

1555
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: crowd and all that.

1556
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 5: And to that point, again, I've said this before. He's

1557
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 5: been in three UFC fights. Two of those were numbered events.

1558
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 5: He was on the prelims and early prelims. He was

1559
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 5: on the main card against Matt Schnell, which was in

1560
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 5: the Apex. As far as big mma crowds that are hostile,

1561
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 5: he's never experienced anything even approximating this another X factor

1562
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 5: that could really derail him. For example, you might be

1563
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 5: like seeing in parts wow, like he's doing really well,

1564
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 5: and then Pantoja lands a big bomb and then the

1565
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 5: crowd goes crazy and he gets rattled and you know,

1566
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 5: loses his bearing.

1567
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 3: That could happen as well. But that's the part too

1568
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 3: about him that's kind of interesting. BC. He has very

1569
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 3: very good bearing.

1570
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 5: He's been hurt perform fights and then really kind of

1571
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 5: showed good discipline, good He tries to problem solve in

1572
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 5: a way where it's not just through sheer will and force.

1573
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 5: And Pantoja is underrated as a technician, but because he

1574
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 5: leads with force so often, sometimes you can lose sight

1575
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 5: of that. So they're kind of opposites in that way

1576
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 5: a little bit.

1577
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting that the odds makers gave

1578
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 4: her saying so much respect. I don't think I'm crazy

1579
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 4: to make him a thin underdog.

1580
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 3: You're thirty four in a million wars.

1581
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 5: You're fighting a guy you're probably better on the ground

1582
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 5: than but if you exchange on the feet, he could

1583
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 5: put your lights out with very technical, precise boxing.

1584
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, those odds are correct.

1585
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: Okay, Devil's advocate. Though, the three opponents that we have

1586
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: seen or seg against David duvorek Alessandro Costa and then

1587
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 2: the knockout of Schnell is Pantoje another level potentially too

1588
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,879
Speaker 2: far forward. We can't expect to see the same precision.

1589
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 5: There is no doubt Pantoja is the best he's ever fought.

1590
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 5: But it's the same argument you could make about Ilia

1591
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 5: going into the Vulc fight. Who had Ilia fought that

1592
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 5: was even bordering on the level of Vulcan. Josh Emmett

1593
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 5: not on the level of Vulc.

1594
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 6: You know.

1595
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, Rodriguez very good, but not on the level of Vulcan,

1596
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 5: and he went in there and just sliced right through him.

1597
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 5: It's not so much what the everyone wants their resume

1598
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 5: to be.

1599
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 3: What they've done. Canel is the same thing. Look what

1600
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 3: I've done.

1601
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, if the question is does Canilo belong in

1602
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 5: the Boxing Hall of Fame one billion percent?

1603
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 3: You have solved that.

1604
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 5: But that is good that in his case nothing to

1605
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 5: do with the belt, and in this particular case, the

1606
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 5: facts of the very particular situation here matter and they

1607
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 5: kind of tell you that ers should be taken very

1608
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 5: seriously as a threat those wars that Pantoja has been in,

1609
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 5: this one kind of coming back to thirty four after

1610
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 5: having been in long fights against Robe, which wasn't a

1611
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 5: war but grueling, but that moreno fight was absolutely brutal,

1612
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 5: and he said some other crazy ass ones as well. Dude,

1613
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 5: that mileage is it is going to blow It's going

1614
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 5: to blow up. Is it this Saturday or a different day?

1615
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 5: That's the right way to.

1616
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: Look at it. Do you want to give a prediction

1617
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: or are you gonna lay you know what I'm going

1618
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: by decision.

1619
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 3: I will tell you what I'll say via TKO. Round three.

1620
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, this is a breakthrough moment.

1621
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, just wow, We're gonna look.

1622
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 5: Like assholes if you know, Pantoja goes in there, it

1623
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 5: takes us back in the first round, chokes them out.

1624
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 5: I mean, which by the way, I fully wreck if

1625
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 5: you can't look at a guy as he's the champion,

1626
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 5: you can't look at a guy as skilled as Pantoja

1627
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 5: and then discount his ability to find the back and

1628
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 5: get the choke against an overmatched guy in at at

1629
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 5: home with c with the crowd in his back. I mean,

1630
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 5: of course, with the crowd chanting in Portuguese, you're gonna die,

1631
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 5: You're gonna die.

1632
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: But before we get into the co main event here

1633
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 2: Luke breaking news.

1634
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 4: I hate that boxing is now doing these closed door

1635
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 4: morning of where you know, the morning like UFC does,

1636
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 4: but UFC allows you in there with a camera, and

1637
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 4: you know, many outlets have kind of made it into

1638
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 4: a show. But Dan Rayfield Luke of Fight Freaks Unite

1639
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 4: reporting the closed door real way in is happening.

1640
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 2: Now the media wrongly.

1641
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 4: He's right not allowed to attend, so we play games

1642
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 4: pert source in the room. Rayfael reporting Canello weighed in

1643
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 4: at one sixty six point eight, so he's in under

1644
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 4: the one hundred and sixty pounds limit. For Saturday's main event,

1645
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 4: Hamimongia won sixty seven point four. Luke, how is it

1646
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 4: justifiable from the Nevada Commission or any commission to do this,

1647
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 4: to do the closed door it's not real.

1648
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 5: I mean, they're a publicly funded taxpayer entity. Yeah, they

1649
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 5: are an arm of the state. They don't have to

1650
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 5: let in all the media, that's true. You don't have,

1651
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 5: but you have an obligation to allow in some kind

1652
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 5: of version of a or several pool reporters who then

1653
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 5: can be witness to this, so that the operations of

1654
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 5: the state can be witnessed by people who can look out.

1655
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 2: For the public zoom for all of us to watch

1656
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: in our hotel round.

1657
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 5: It's not sufficient. Someone needs to be People are people.

1658
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 5: It's not like people aren't here. It's not COVID. People

1659
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 5: are here. You can you can bring them into the room.

1660
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 5: This is dude. Then put the camera on me.

1661
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 3: Here we go. Ready, here we go. Put the camera. Cook,

1662
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 3: Let me cook, Let me cook with that.

1663
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 2: Let him cook, I cook, Let them cook.

1664
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 3: All right, all right, Jesus fall us, there we go.

1665
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 5: The Nevada Commission, in my opinion, doesn't give a fuck

1666
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 5: about the fighters. They care about the stakeholders in terms

1667
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 5: of the institutions, the promotions, the people who are putting

1668
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 5: money into this event, whether or not that is good

1669
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 5: for the fighters is I think almost but not entirely

1670
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:42,480
Speaker 5: in my opinion, Irret.

1671
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 2: Good luck getting out of Las Vegas. Yeah that was

1672
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas on the microphone there, and but I do

1673
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 2: actually agree with you.

1674
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 4: Let's get back into UFC three oh one and this

1675
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 4: co main event the legend thirty seven year old UFC

1676
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. By the way, Jose Aldo is back

1677
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 4: after his retirement from last year.

1678
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 2: He dabbled in boxing a little bit.

1679
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 4: And here's the most interesting thing entering his very interesting

1680
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 4: fight against Jonathan Martinez. Although Aldough did reveal originally the

1681
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 4: plan was for dominant Cruz, but this matchup is interesting

1682
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 4: unto itself. This is the final fight in the UFC

1683
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 4: contract of Jose Aldo. Reportedly, he turned down the UFC's

1684
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 4: offer to resign ahead of this fight. He seems to

1685
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 4: be teasing the potential of not just big boxing offers outside, but.

1686
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 2: Maybe even MMA.

1687
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 4: I mean, look, could you see Jose Aldo potentially being

1688
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 4: the type of free agent that a PFL would want

1689
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 4: for a pay per view division fight. Because here's the deal.

1690
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 4: Aldo said no to the UFC. He will now be

1691
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 4: in the driver's seat, win or lose. After this Martinez fight.

1692
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 4: Do you think he came back out of retirement only

1693
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 4: to clear himself from the UFC contract moving forward?

1694
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 3: Okay, is this a serious question? Like let me just

1695
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 3: ask this, let me let me put it back to you.

1696
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 5: Do you think Jose Aldo wants to get out of

1697
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 5: his UFC contract so he can go to the PFL.

1698
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 2: I mean you did ask caw he.

1699
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 4: If he thought Oscar did that on purpose, even though

1700
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 4: Oscar brought out a prepared, pre written statement.

1701
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 3: No, not that he did it on purpose. I didn't

1702
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 3: mean it in that way. I meant to what extent?

1703
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 5: Was it motivated by a strategic thinking or was it

1704
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:14,799
Speaker 5: motivated by revenge?

1705
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 3: Okay, sort of what I meant.

1706
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 4: So you're saying that because the other argument would have

1707
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 4: been maybe he just wants to drive up his price

1708
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 4: for UFC. Let me show you how much I still

1709
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 4: have him, because in other interviews this week, Jose saying, look,

1710
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 4: I want to get back in the Benham Whit title picture.

1711
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 4: I'm rejuvenated, I'm ready, I got the time off. So

1712
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 4: you're hearing a little bit of both. How do you

1713
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,560
Speaker 4: navigate what Jose Aldo is is trying to do?

1714
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 5: Entering this listen, anything's possible. P fol could come with

1715
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 5: a huge check, in which case this all blows up

1716
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,560
Speaker 5: in my face too. I think what he wants to

1717
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 5: do is either get a big dollar amount from UFC,

1718
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 5: but probably not that. I think he genuinely has talked

1719
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,799
Speaker 5: about this. He did a little bit of it already.

1720
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 5: I think he wants to box a little bit in

1721
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 5: co're Floyd Mayweather rumors yes, and kind of see what

1722
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 5: market is out there. Maybe see a lot of these

1723
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 5: guys don't really know what the market will look like

1724
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 5: for them. They kind of have an idea. You never

1725
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 5: know what influencer could come through. You never know what

1726
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 5: rulest might get approved. You know, it would make me sad,

1727
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 5: and I don't think the weight class would work. But

1728
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 5: imagine it was something like jose Aldo versus KSI or

1729
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 5: something terrible, you would I would hate that. But Jose

1730
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 5: Aldo might get a huge paycheck from that. And so

1731
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 5: I think he just wants to see hey again, Do

1732
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 5: I begrudge the elite MMA fighters who still might have

1733
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 5: a couple of fights left in him, who want to

1734
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 5: just maximize big deal? I get it at this to me,

1735
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 5: while he could go down a sad path is fine

1736
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 5: because he's not hawking up a weight class title in

1737
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 5: the UFC.

1738
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 2: Well, this is going to be an interesting showdown of

1739
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 2: what we have.

1740
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 4: Jonathan Martinez writing a six fight wind streak and seems

1741
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 4: to be sort of peaking to find out how good

1742
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 4: he can be. If you want some intensity, Luke, you

1743
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 4: pointed me out to this face off video we saw

1744
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 4: at the end of media day. Let's watch all though

1745
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 4: face off with Jonathan Martin. It's about to get real. Yeah,

1746
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 4: who do you think initiated that?

1747
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,560
Speaker 5: Martinez definitely didn't want to back down. And remember this

1748
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 5: was supposed to be dominant Cruz, not Aldo, so it

1749
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 5: was supposed to be Cruz versus Martinez.

1750
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I said it was the opposite. I thought

1751
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: I heard all those saying.

1752
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 5: Oh what am I saying? You're absolutely right, yes, and

1753
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 5: that would have been It would have been great. But

1754
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 5: I don't hate this fight. So this is a weird

1755
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 5: one to me because I actually feel like Martinez has

1756
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 5: a promising future and has been doing really well. But Aldo,

1757
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 5: obviously that not only has great leg kicks, he's got

1758
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 5: great leg kicking defense, and I feel like if he

1759
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 5: can shut down Martinez' leg kicking game before it ever

1760
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 5: really gets going, and then obviously retaliate himself. Aldo's got

1761
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 5: other gears to go to where if that was taken away,

1762
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 5: like if you took away all those leg kicking, would

1763
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,600
Speaker 5: he could still win with his boxing or even his

1764
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 5: wrestling to a degree.

1765
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. If Martinez has the same kind of

1766
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 3: depth to his game.

1767
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 2: I would agree with that.

1768
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 4: And while I made the same speech that I wonder

1769
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 4: if this electrifying crowd, which is what we expect there

1770
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 4: rightfully so in Brazil, is going to potentially cause Pantosia

1771
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 4: to get himself into a trap trying to please them.

1772
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 4: I'm wondering, Luke, if this is the perfect timing for

1773
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 4: Jose Al to the perfect storm back in front of

1774
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 4: the home crowds, the King of Rio looking to close

1775
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 4: out his UFC deal with a bang to keep his

1776
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 4: value high against an opponent who potentially could get caught

1777
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 4: up in trying to score the biggest win against a

1778
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 4: legend on enemy territory in a firefight.

1779
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing about Jose Aldo, it gets

1780
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 2: you into firefight. He kind of does, even though he

1781
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: does it skillfully.

1782
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 4: I'm wondering if this is the kind of thing where

1783
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 4: we see Jose pour out the drug one more time

1784
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 4: and get a triumphant knockout that he's jumping over the

1785
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 4: cage and we see this guy back and giving the

1786
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 4: fans what they want.

1787
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 2: I think the home crowd here in this situation might

1788
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: lift him up, might just lift him up in over.

1789
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 3: The top in that regard, very possible.

1790
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 4: Let's talk about how Jonathan Martinez got here, though, and

1791
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 4: how tough he might be. His last three wins on

1792
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 4: this six fight win streak are TKO via leg kicks

1793
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 4: against Cub Swanson, a decision over saied Nermaga Metov, and

1794
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 4: TKO via leg kicks against Adrian Janz, who we both

1795
01:17:58,600 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 4: have a lot of respect for.

1796
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 2: Luke. How much of a bigger test as all dough

1797
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: from what Martinez has already.

1798
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 3: Seen, Pretty big, pretty big.

1799
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 2: We don't know when we factor in the age in

1800
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 2: the time off, That's what I'm saying.

1801
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 5: I mean, remember, Aldo's last fight was what the morob

1802
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 5: fight at altitude, and nothing bad happened to him. They

1803
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 5: he just kind of didn't have the energy to fight off,

1804
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,719
Speaker 5: you know, being pressed against the fence because he stopped

1805
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 5: virtually all the takedowns, which was which no.

1806
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 2: One talks about enough.

1807
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 4: That was a badass b badass moved by Aldough and

1808
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 4: defeatd just stuff that guy'sn't tired.

1809
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 3: And also just but also like a disappointing end to

1810
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 3: a great action.

1811
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 5: It wasn't always an action fighter, but a very talented

1812
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 5: fighter who's got a wide range of ability, and you

1813
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 5: just saw him kind of like halfway neutralized against the fence.

1814
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 5: I mean, good on Marop for doing the best he could,

1815
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 5: not like he's finding some scrub but it's a hard

1816
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 5: thing to do, and then you know, it kind of

1817
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 5: gives you some perspective. Vulk beat Aldo by decision, but

1818
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 5: you know it wasn't a wasn't a heater either. Fucking

1819
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 5: Max stopped him twice. I mean that is brutal, retally

1820
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 5: not in Detroit. The second one was worse, fucking insane.

1821
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 5: But with all that said, I don't feel like he's

1822
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 5: super washed. I really don't. And I'm gonna say one

1823
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 5: more time, like, as long as his athleticism is still

1824
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 5: mostly there and he's checking these kicks, I.

1825
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,520
Speaker 3: Think this is an uphill climb for Jonathan Martinez.

1826
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 4: Also all those kind of at bandon weight specifically, has

1827
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 4: kind of turned into a nasty counterpuncher with you know,

1828
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 4: with big time you know, left hooks that can.

1829
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 3: I did not think he was going to have this

1830
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 3: kind of success of one thirty five, and that's exactly

1831
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 3: what he's had.

1832
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 2: I like all the by knockout.

1833
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 5: Where you going here, I'll say Aldo by decision three

1834
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,799
Speaker 5: weeks Yeah, yeah, I'll say Aldo by decision.

1835
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 2: All right, Luke.

1836
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 4: A featured fight on this pay per view card and

1837
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 4: a light heavyweight division brings friend of the program and

1838
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 4: thirty five year old former title challenger Anthony Smith back

1839
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 4: to the mix. So be fighting a vetur fating a

1840
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 4: Vitor Patrino in this matchup, Luke, the headlines have been

1841
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 4: dominated by Anthony Smith, saying, despite what you've seen of

1842
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 4: late at thirty five, I feel like I'm at the

1843
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 4: absolute Peeka by game, and I don't think a loss

1844
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 4: here sends me to retirement. In fact, Lukey thinks he's

1845
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 4: got another run in him that has produced a certain reaction.

1846
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: From the crowd that hasn't been overly popped.

1847
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 5: That's not the only thing he said that Scott and

1848
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 5: people to groan what else you got. I've I've known

1849
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 5: Anthony Smith a little bit personally, and I have to

1850
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 5: say I find him personally great guy, very nice and

1851
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,560
Speaker 5: charming and humble and reasonable. But you know, when he

1852
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 5: gets to the takes, he says the fire the fighter

1853
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 5: in him comes out and he says crazy ass stuff.

1854
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 4: Like when he told us on the Room Service Diaries

1855
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 4: couch that John Jones is actually not that good in

1856
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 4: any specific.

1857
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 3: Area, like he and I know what he meant by that.

1858
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 4: I'm not pinning him down and saying I kind of

1859
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 4: got you know, people are going to blow up when.

1860
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 5: They hear that, you know, yeah, and then also saying

1861
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 5: stuff like, you know, I don't think that Alex Padata

1862
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 5: is all that great, like I could go toe to toe.

1863
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 5: It's like it's kind of the dismissiveness of greatness within

1864
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 5: the division. And then people are like saying, but but

1865
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 5: you've not done that, and you know you're dismissing it

1866
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 5: so easily. But that doesn't make a lot of sense,

1867
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 5: which I understand. He has said that he knows he's

1868
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 5: kind of at ranked at ten in this division, that

1869
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 5: he's kind of being looked at by maybe even the

1870
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 5: UFC to an extent, but certainly by the a lot

1871
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 5: of folks in the commut unity as a stepping stone

1872
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 5: for Petrino, who is a young, heavy handed, aggressive slugger.

1873
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 3: Right.

1874
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a tough fight for Smith, winnable but tough,

1875
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 5: and so he's like, I'm not going to be anyone

1876
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,560
Speaker 5: stepping stone. I'm not going to be the guy that

1877
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 5: they push aside, like we're going to put a stop

1878
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 5: to that right now, you see. I kind of feel

1879
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 5: like that's what this fight is about. If Anthony Smith

1880
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 5: is going to retain that kind of position, lit'ten know

1881
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, that position, this is a must win

1882
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 5: for him, and especially not just a must win, but

1883
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 5: like I'm like, you can't survive barely scraping by and

1884
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 5: then want to keep this kind of position.

1885
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 3: You got to do a little bit more with it.

1886
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 5: And I think it's going to be tough against a

1887
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 5: guy this athletic, this heavy handed, in your face.

1888
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: I just don't want to see him get knocked out.

1889
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 2: I don't want to see it.

1890
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 5: It's just it's not just that Smith has taken some

1891
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 5: losses in the way where he's been taking some big damage.

1892
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 5: The injuries do even in the on Kalia fight, winers

1893
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 5: Ankle got all completely destroyed.

1894
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 4: And but he told us on the couch that time,

1895
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 4: and I really appreciate how deep he went with us

1896
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 4: that he can't stop, meaning he has this year in

1897
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 4: him that no matter what the punishment, no matter the

1898
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 4: challenge of the injury, he can't stop trying to win fights,

1899
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 4: or trying to get healthy again and trying to get

1900
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 4: back out there. And even though that is the superpower

1901
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 4: that has fueled him to the success, he said, don't

1902
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 4: forget this guy started off with so many losses early

1903
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 4: in his career and was a journeyman to a large degree,

1904
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 4: and then suddenly he's fighting John Jones for the title.

1905
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: But the blessing becomes a curse.

1906
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 4: Though at some point when it's still leading you out

1907
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 4: to battle too quickly, or when you're not fully healthy,

1908
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 4: or when you're not fully prepared.

1909
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 5: These guys boxers too, but MMA fighters in particular, A

1910
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 5: lot of these guys like naturally, through the course of

1911
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 5: their occupation, they brainwashed themselves. And did you have to

1912
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 5: when you think about how tough it is what you're doing,

1913
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 5: But think of it on a more granular, granular level.

1914
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 3: Every day you go to practice.

1915
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 5: You're in there in certain cases, whether it's the American

1916
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 5: Top team or whatever, you're in there for the fight

1917
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 5: of your life. And these sparring sessions, the strength and

1918
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 5: conditioning sessions are brutal. You're having to diet. This is

1919
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 5: why they're so sensitive to verbal criticism. And it's this brainwashing.

1920
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 5: Yes I can get through this workout, Yes I can

1921
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 5: make this way, Yes I can achieve this goal.

1922
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 3: Hold yourself, yes I can. Yes we can. Yes, see,

1923
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 3: yes we can.

1924
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 2: I thought he was a reggae tongue.

1925
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 6: No.

1926
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 5: No, So what I'm trying to point out to you BC,

1927
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 5: why are you can you just keep the racism to yourself.

1928
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 3: It's not just like saying.

1929
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to point out you have to brainwash

1930
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 5: over and over and over. And then when you get

1931
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 5: to a point where you're a senior in your career

1932
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 5: and now you're saying things that when you were twenty

1933
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 5: five you would have had the exact same like hard

1934
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 5: ass attitude. But it doesn't add up after years of

1935
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 5: damage and some losses and blah blah blah, it's hard

1936
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 5: to undo.

1937
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 4: Look, what if I told you there's a fighter on

1938
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 4: this pay per view card that's riding a seven fight

1939
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 4: win streak and it's not even ranked. Who is about

1940
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 4: new middleweight Michelle Padata who enters an Michelle Pereira Pereira.

1941
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 5: Right, Michelle Pereira, Pa, if you said it really slow,

1942
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 5: Shelle Pae wait heay A think about it.

1943
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 3: P e r e I r A, so break it up?

1944
01:23:56,120 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: Pay hey, okay, let me try that again, Michelle perey Era.

1945
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 3: Now, it was just saying, if you slowed it down,

1946
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 3: just say Perreira, Just say Perreira.

1947
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 4: Look, could be taking on an ehorrer Poteria Potia, who

1948
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 4: has lost three of his last five.

1949
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 3: Are we talking about this?

1950
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 2: All three by TKO?

1951
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 4: But the story, so this almost feels like a showcase

1952
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 4: setup fight for Pereira now since moving to middleweight to

1953
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 4: potentially get over and get inserted into those rankings. Is

1954
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 4: this the fight that we kind of see him get

1955
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 4: his for the first time, get his shine as a

1956
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 4: true potential title contender, Because when he's not trying to

1957
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 4: backflip you into a KO, his grappling is pretty damn good.

1958
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 4: He's always in top end shape, he's got creative, explosive strikes.

1959
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 2: He could be a factor at middleweight, and I think

1960
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 2: he's gonna win this fight.

1961
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 5: This is this is revenge for beating Showgun right, putting

1962
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 5: him back in Brazil and giving him now a young,

1963
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 5: relatively young, athletic, dynamic fighter who is, by the way,

1964
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 5: we should talk about it like his home.

1965
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 3: He has found a new home and a new life

1966
01:24:59,400 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 3: at middleway.

1967
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 5: Yes, where you knew physically he would fit well into

1968
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 5: the way class, but he has really just turn a

1969
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 5: million corners, and then on top of it, the technical

1970
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 5: development has been there as well. I don't know exactly

1971
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 5: if this fight will get stopped or how long it

1972
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:20,440
Speaker 5: will go, but I just expect hote Aria to get another.

1973
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 4: L here, yeah, cafeteria, Yeah, there we go eat and

1974
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 4: taking his lunch with him. Hey, the final fight on

1975
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 4: this pay per view card is actually a very good one.

1976
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 4: We're talking about friend of the program and again newfound

1977
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 4: middleweight himself, Paul Craig of Glass coow Fame the knife Capital.

1978
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 3: I think they pronounce a glass Go glass Go Fame.

1979
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 2: The knife violence capital of the world.

1980
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 4: According he told us that Luke, he'll be taking on

1981
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 4: the very aggressively throat tattooed, but a very good fighter

1982
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 4: in Kyo Barrajo the thirty one year old.

1983
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 5: So remember the two rs together are an h Kyo Bohalio.

1984
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 4: Thank you Rosetta Stone, Yeah for echoing in my rnh

1985
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 4: Luke Ohio has yet to lose in the UFC after

1986
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 4: winning twice in the Dana White Contender Series, and he's

1987
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 4: been on a fun run.

1988
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 2: He makes very fun fights. He's aggressive, and he goes

1989
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 2: after it.

1990
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 4: The reason why you have to love this matchup is

1991
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 4: because Paul Craig seems to do best when aggressive people

1992
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 4: take over and get the advantage of him before he

1993
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 4: pulls out to the miraculous submission.

1994
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 2: How wild is this fight going to be?

1995
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 5: This is gonna be a ground battle in all likelihood, right,

1996
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 5: So you've got a guy in Paul Craig who likes

1997
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 5: to pull guard. You got a guy in Bohoalio who

1998
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 5: can play from guard but is a little bit more

1999
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 5: of a backtaker, and so you're gonna kind of see

2000
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 5: how that fight plays out. I tend to think that

2001
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 5: Bohoalio won't necessarily well for his own sake, I hope

2002
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 5: that he doesn't fall into the trap. I would love

2003
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,879
Speaker 5: to see Craig win, but the reality is he shouldn't

2004
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 5: necessarily fall into Craig. Craig just kind of admitting to

2005
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 5: bad positions for obviously eventual gain. Bohalio should be a

2006
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 5: step ahead on that, and so I kind of want

2007
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 5: to see how they're grappling. Ultimately susses out, Paul.

2008
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 2: Craig was submitted by Brendan Allen and his Big Middleway

2009
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,839
Speaker 2: close up. After winning that debut against Andre Munios.

2010
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 4: He's now thirty six, Luke, which means Craig is no

2011
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 4: longer eligible to win the Wiltway title under your famous

2012
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 4: stat That's right, it's over.

2013
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about any other fights at

2014
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 2: UFC three to ZHO one, do you?

2015
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 6: No?

2016
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, Jack Shore, No not Carolina Kolevolkevich.

2017
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 3: No, don't. I mean, I'm gonna watch it, but I don't.

2018
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 4: How about those h cores, those hard fans that just

2019
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 4: want their MMA and they want it served up by

2020
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 4: Luke Thomas, right frickin' now.

2021
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I will watch the fights and we will react

2022
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 5: to them, but I'm not going to get off his back, folks.

2023
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 4: All right, Our final segment this week is the return

2024
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 4: of for some of you, your favorite one and for

2025
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 4: some of you your least favorite one.

2026
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 2: That's fine. The forums there, We allow you every once

2027
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: in a while to email your submissions to Morning Coombat

2028
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com so we can put your art

2029
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 2: work up on our fridge. We can show the pictures

2030
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 2: of your vacationing in tight MK shirts. Why because we

2031
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: love you weirdos. Thank you.

2032
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 4: This one's called fanned submissions. So, Luke, it's been a

2033
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 4: long time since we've rock and rolled. What is your

2034
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 4: ex dictation level in terms of what our fans have

2035
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 4: been up to the last four months and what they

2036
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 4: may be able to present in this segment and it's

2037
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 4: long awaited return.

2038
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 3: What do you mean, I'm not sure what you're asking.

2039
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 2: We haven't had fans subs in a long time.

2040
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we don't have a time off.

2041
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 2: Do you think we're they're going to come back guns

2042
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 2: blazing here?

2043
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 3: I guess we're going to find out.

2044
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out here.

2045
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 4: Let's kick it off with friend of the program, Chicago's

2046
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 4: own the real Saoul alfaro He says, Greetings wanted to

2047
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 4: show off this awesome mural they painted in downtown YMCA

2048
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 4: in my city went to a low rider event over

2049
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 4: the weekend First of all, that mural is badass, and

2050
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 4: that's Saoul in the MK bomber jacket at the bottom

2051
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 4: under Ali. Then he says, went to a low rider

2052
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 4: event over the weekend, and I know this guy never

2053
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 4: fought professionally, but he is considered the people's champ. Paul

2054
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 4: Wall nice sky MK all day. So that's the real

2055
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 4: Saul on the left and the tie died MK shirt.

2056
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 4: Luke tell us about Paul Wall.

2057
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 5: Paul Wall out of I think you would for a

2058
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 5: time out of Swisher House, out of Houston. He's a

2059
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 5: Houston based rapper. He had sitting sideways, famous for his grills.

2060
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 5: He did songs with Mike Jones with I Think Zero

2061
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 5: with the other one with Kanye Drive Slow, which is

2062
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 5: great with just a million people, Houston legend.

2063
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 3: And I saw him do an interview. Do you know

2064
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 3: who mexican Ot is?

2065
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I don't. I don't really follow his work.

2066
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 5: Mexican Ot is like the new hot guy out of Houston,

2067
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 5: and Mexicanot and Paul Wall did like a mutual interview

2068
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 5: with one another.

2069
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 3: It was fucking great.

2070
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 4: What do you think about Saoul always wrapping MK, whether

2071
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 4: he's on vacation, whether he's out with his with his wife,

2072
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 4: whether he's meeting Paul wall I mean this dude.

2073
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 3: My family would find him baffling. They're like, why do

2074
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 3: you care about him? When we don't?

2075
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 2: Wow, Hey, look at the look at this guy right

2076
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 2: there in the soccer jersey.

2077
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, al Madrid.

2078
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 2: Is that Ronaldo out there?

2079
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 3: Lucas?

2080
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 2: What am I seeing? Yeah?

2081
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 3: There we go, Madrid.

2082
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of Team Hoka walking by.

2083
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 2: Let's continue it.

2084
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 4: Luke a friend of the program, The twenty twenty three

2085
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 4: co MK Donk of the Year, J Paquette is back

2086
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 4: from Novas with love.

2087
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 2: He says, good day, Luken BC and MK Nation. Sorry.

2088
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty two Codonk of the Year JP here with

2089
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 4: a special message in thanks and gratitude to the show.

2090
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 4: After months of video calls and multiple daily text messages,

2091
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 4: I made the trip up to southern Ontario finally to

2092
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:20,879
Speaker 4: meet my official MK non related brother, Chef Mark Piquette

2093
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,879
Speaker 4: and his beautiful family. Look, this is Paquette on Paquette

2094
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 4: violence over here in Canada, he says. Mark invited me

2095
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 4: up for a visit and hosted eight of his good

2096
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 4: friends to an outstanding UFC three hundred viewing party with

2097
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 4: custom chef's table menu including Tomahawk, Ribbi Steaks, Thor Meat Hammer,

2098
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 4: smoked chicken wings, and endless eighty tacos at his amazing

2099
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 4: property and cast iron kitchen.

2100
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 3: I had a turkey sandwich and had sadness farts.

2101
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 4: Thank you to MK for providing such an awesome channel

2102
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 4: to allow Mark and I to meet, as well as

2103
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 4: other donks to form great friendships.

2104
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 2: What an unforgettable experience. Thanks again much love, JP and

2105
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 2: dawned the Boss Lady.

2106
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 4: Luke, our show, our weird ass community has brought two

2107
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 4: Canadian piquette families together.

2108
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 5: God bless them. Well they literally he are having a

2109
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 5: grand time. Shout to them.

2110
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 2: We have a video to throw to to further exclamate

2111
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 2: this union of sensual I guess we don't. I guess

2112
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:21,719
Speaker 2: we do not have the video.

2113
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 4: Okay, So well there was a video, okay where there

2114
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 4: was like some cocks walking around and then.

2115
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 2: Jay Piquet picked up the cock and was a rooster. Yeah,

2116
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 2: and then you know it was oh yeah yeah.

2117
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 4: Larry's Harry says, Hello, Luke and BC, this is Larry

2118
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 4: reppin MK from Luke's homeland of India in January, we

2119
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 4: have a kite flying festival. I wanted to give m

2120
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 4: K a flying start to the year, so I made

2121
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 4: an m K kite for you guys.

2122
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 2: Excited for what's to come next. Can't wait.

2123
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 5: Flying high in the sky, and he says Luke in

2124
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 5: Mumbai Dane quoting power.

2125
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 4: Slap popularity in India is total bullshite. Nobody here cares

2126
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 4: about slap it.

2127
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 3: Nobody here cares about it either. He just says stuff.

2128
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 2: He says, I invite you guys to visit India. Also, MK,

2129
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 2: discord is missing your personal presence.

2130
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 5: I don't understand what the issue is here. The Discord

2131
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 5: people have said that they want us to do like

2132
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 5: a Q and A with him, which we will do. Yeah, yeah,

2133
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 5: I don't know what the hold up is. If you

2134
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 5: want me to do it, I will do it. If

2135
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 5: you want BC to do it, you'll do it, right Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2136
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 5: we will do it. We will just someone set this up.

2137
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 3: We will do it.

2138
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 2: We will do it. We'll do it, he says MK.

2139
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 4: All day, it's Larry from Luke's homeland. Thank you, Let's

2140
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 4: go to Mike. He says, morning, gentlemen. I think I

2141
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:40,759
Speaker 4: understand John Silva's ARFs better than your big announcement.

2142
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 2: Who's Gene Silva? Luke?

2143
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 4: I can't read this, but he says, perhaps next time

2144
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 4: he's talking about the UFC fighter, Perhaps next time you

2145
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 4: have something special to say.

2146
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 2: Or whatever the case may be, just lead it with

2147
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 2: a few ARFs. Luke, what is this saying here?

2148
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 3: Can I be honest? I don't know?

2149
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 2: All right, you're the quote.

2150
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 4: Above your faces bignnouncement today, guys, be sure to tune

2151
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 4: in to catch the exciting news.

2152
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 2: My god, you're not going to believe what we have

2153
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,719
Speaker 2: to say. Then the crowd's reacting and that, oh.

2154
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 3: God, that's great, and then he just barks. I guess

2155
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 3: this guy barked recently. I don't know.

2156
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I guess. So, Hey, there's Fabio boos.

2157
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 3: Queke, right, Fabiano Fabian you got it?

2158
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 4: Okay, let's keep it going here from Zahetti, he says,

2159
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 4: I just whipped this up to let BC know how

2160
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:28,480
Speaker 4: much I appreciate him. Well, thank you, Zahetti his personality

2161
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 4: and record breakdowns and reviews. But I realize you guys

2162
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 4: can't attach pictures to messages on IG unless the recipient

2163
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 4: follows you.

2164
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 2: This is me on Kurt Engle's body.

2165
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 4: Curtis with some tattoos, So that says Luke on my

2166
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 4: chest left peck, I believe that says more air come.

2167
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 3: And then American Alpha on your ribs.

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01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 4: That's pretty bad ass. That's great if I keep down

2169
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 4: this fitness road, do you think I can get there?

2170
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 2: Or no?

2171
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:54,560
Speaker 3: No, you got to take drugs for that.

2172
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 2: All right, shout out to Kurt Angle and Zahetti for

2173
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 2: this great piece of art.

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01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 4: Let's go over to Nick. He says, I got a

2175
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 4: video for you and you're welcome. That's not a video,

2176
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,799
Speaker 4: all right, so this is a what is happening?

2177
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 5: Ryan Campbell walks into a room, Good morning everyone, and

2178
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 5: it's just a you know, no reaction and then does

2179
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 5: it make sex joke?

2180
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 2: And then it's you and othello losing your mind over

2181
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 2: Max Holloway's ko.

2182
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, just you know, Brian Campbell walking in a room

2183
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,560
Speaker 5: and then not referring to his genitalia right away is

2184
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:26,520
Speaker 5: such a rare but yet beautiful.

2185
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 2: Time type cast. Imagine what What'cauley Culkin feels like? You

2186
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean? All right, Let's go over to

2187
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 2: lazy bed. He says, Yo dongs I.

2188
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:37,799
Speaker 3: Realized the lazy bed he's a member of my channel.

2189
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 2: He's a subscriber, so he pays to see what what

2190
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 2: does he get?

2191
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:42,719
Speaker 3: He gets? He gets?

2192
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 6: Uh.

2193
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 5: We have only done one live stream, but because I've

2194
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 5: been traveling, I can do one this week. But we

2195
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 5: do all kinds of I do like private videos of

2196
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 5: all kinds of stuff.

2197
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 2: This leaning in the direction of only pipes. We had

2198
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:54,719
Speaker 2: a long discussion about.

2199
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 3: An there's no butt hole on this. I don't think

2200
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 3: there's a wide market for her.

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01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 4: Okay, well, lazy beds as yo donks. I realize by

2202
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 4: now fan subs are likely a lost start. No, and

2203
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 4: I too have been slacking, but I wanted to say

2204
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 4: we sure are missing our boys and our usual dose

2205
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 4: of morning malarkey. Here's a couple of pieces I put

2206
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 4: together and shared on the MK discord that I hope

2207
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 4: you get a chuckle. The first one is Luke loses

2208
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 4: control when he sees real Madrid and newly minted featherweight chance.

2209
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 3: I look like a sadder version of the liver King.

2210
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 7: Uh.

2211
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 5: When MK returns in March, I can't read what it

2212
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 5: says at the bottom BC. Oh, yeah, we can build

2213
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 5: back better, stronger, Okay, very good.

2214
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 4: That looks like you when you finally take the plunge

2215
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 4: into trt after. What a cock tease you are?

2216
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 5: Why everyone is obsessed with what I do with my

2217
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 5: body draw I find unimaginable, an unimaginably you.

2218
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 2: Believed in yourself that much, and you were a real man,

2219
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 2: you would put your beard on the line.

2220
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 5: We talked, We talked about this last night. Why are

2221
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 5: you so concerned about my appearance? Because if you're willing to,

2222
01:35:58,200 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 5: I don't care about you.

2223
01:35:59,360 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 3: What if you were?

2224
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 4: You're in your opinions and beliefs enough. Like that guy

2225
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 4: with that beard, he bet his beard with his buddy.

2226
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 4: If he had to, he would have the guts.

2227
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 6: To do it.

2228
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 5: Right once again, why do you care about my appearance?

2229
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 5: I think the fans deserve no, no, Why you you

2230
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 5: care about mine? I think the fans deserve to see

2231
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 5: you clean shavened?

2232
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 2: Once What are you hiding?

2233
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 9: Right?

2234
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 3: Right?

2235
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 5: Once again? Once again? Why do you care about my appearance?

2236
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 5: When I don't care if you live or die?

2237
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. Lazy Bet has another meme for

2238
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 2: us here. Let's see what we got going?

2239
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 3: Is that is that you?

2240
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 2: So that's me in front of my head into the lilith. Yeah, yeah,

2241
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 2: that is whose body of my Melissa Edwarde or one

2242
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 2: of the Indigo girls.

2243
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,719
Speaker 3: If that's Rosie o'donnald, I'm not sure. You know what's funny.

2244
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 3: There's an orange Subaru in my neighborhood in DC.

2245
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 5: Someone's got one, probably fans of Mellis Edwards, you know,

2246
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 5: I mean you know.

2247
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:55,719
Speaker 2: Sarah McLaughlin was sneaky hot in the nineties, right, yeah, yeah,

2248
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 2: Jewel was Jewel was Jewel was not sneaky at all.

2249
01:36:59,120 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 3: Jewel.

2250
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 2: This guy right there, he like he like jew a

2251
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 2: lot in the nineties, right, yeah, Look at this guy.

2252
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 3: Look at that guy.

2253
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 2: Look he's metal right there?

2254
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 9: Yes?

2255
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 2: Can we do this? Pop the collar too?

2256
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 5: I like that?

2257
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Talking about you think I'll have to fight him

2258
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 2: when I get out of here, I hope.

2259
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna get my phone ready, all right,

2260
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 4: I believe we have one more from Joseph l Who's

2261
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:21,879
Speaker 4: who has a Luke.

2262
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 2: In Tilpuria meme?

2263
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 6: We just.

2264
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 4: This is Gabeorn No, Joseph, Sorry, we have one more

2265
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 4: from Nick is it here? Let's see that up? Okay,

2266
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 4: there you go?

2267
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 5: Can you read us what the screen says back there, Yeah,

2268
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 5: Wiener Jokes, your membership has been approved. There you go,

2269
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 5: Wienerjokes dot Com. Would you say that diary of Luke

2270
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 5: Thomas your diary? I have a confession to make. I

2271
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:49,879
Speaker 5: have an arrogant know it all asshole.

2272
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,679
Speaker 2: Oh that got good? That went for bad the good quickly. Yeah, funny,

2273
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 2: that's the whole joke.

2274
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 4: Thank you fans. In the future, we will continue this.

2275
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 4: I'm not show the regularity, but morning Combat at.

2276
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 3: Jerail show and I want to bring it back. I

2277
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 3: know he wants to bring it back.

2278
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: On the way to.

2279
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 3: Getting there, yes, it's just it takes time. Trust me.

2280
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 3: You're like, how come? How come?

2281
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 5: It's not automatic? These things are not as easy as

2282
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 5: you might imagine to produce. But when I say that,

2283
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 5: I mean to get going, not to okay.

2284
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 2: Would you say that today's batch gave you hope for

2285
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 2: the future?

2286
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 4: For sure?

2287
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 2: For sure?

2288
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

2289
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,640
Speaker 4: I feel like there was a cock video from the

2290
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 4: piquettes that we missed, but that's fine.

2291
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 3: Did the did the sensors get to us again?

2292
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:34,559
Speaker 4: It's possible they tend not to like your school shooting jokes,

2293
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 4: which is rightfully so. They're good jokes, though, or much

2294
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 4: of my uh Sandusky material.

2295
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 5: So guys, could you do the show without referring to

2296
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 5: Jerry Sandusky and or Columbine And we're.

2297
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 3: Like, this is too far.

2298
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 4: That is that is where it's at to sensor a turntables,

2299
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 4: two cups of girl, and a microphone.

2300
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 2: That is morning combat right there?

2301
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 3: Did last night?

2302
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 2: I I did this thing.

2303
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 4: This a throw move where it's like you're like fired up.

2304
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 4: You're like, I'm gonna go down and get something good

2305
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 4: but not too gross. But every stand or restaurant you

2306
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 4: walk up to, you you end up talking yourself out

2307
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 4: of their menu by the time you even get to it,

2308
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:13,600
Speaker 4: and you're like, I don't want this, I don't want this.

2309
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 4: And then you're like, man, I've been at this for

2310
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 4: a half hour. I just want to get back and

2311
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 4: watch YouTube. And then you end up buying two slices

2312
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 4: of pizza and call it out. Yeah, but it was good. Look,

2313
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 4: I think I earned it from this week, you know.

2314
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 3: But you know what, you know what we both ate

2315
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 3: with our hands.

2316
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 2: We did know. Yeah, it's true, we did. So Look.

2317
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 2: Room Service Diaries will be out what.

2318
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 5: Sunday, probably Sunday. Yeah, I'm gonna edit it on those

2319
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 5: there was what so.

2320
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 2: Your camera at some point ran out of guess, but

2321
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 2: we still have the audio.

2322
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 3: We still have the audio.

2323
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 5: So what we'll do was we'll just play the video

2324
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:40,639
Speaker 5: for as long as it lasts, and then I'll set

2325
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 5: something up so you can watch. But then again, you're

2326
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 5: gonna want to stay till the end when I tell

2327
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 5: the story about crying hysterically in a Hooters.

2328
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and you asked me specifically, BC,

2329
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 2: what led to you doing whippets in the back of

2330
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 2: an RB's Yeah, yeah, by the dumpster.

2331
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 6: And you know.

2332
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 2: It got deep, It did get deep, you know what

2333
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the way I was raised. There's really

2334
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 2: the answer right there. Look, you know what I'm saying

2335
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 2: that that lady know, Yeah, she knows, she knows.

2336
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.

2337
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 2: Hey, there are people. Look, they're just people out there,

2338
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 2: all right.

2339
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 3: They seem lovely.

2340
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 2: They're made out of people. It's been great this week.

2341
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 5: This was a great trip. This was a great trip.

2342
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong. I'm always glad to get to work. Yeah,

2343
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:19,600
Speaker 5: I'm always glad to get the opportunity this was, but

2344
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 5: this was a lot more productive than the Zoofondora week.

2345
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 2: I will say that. I will say that I'm fired

2346
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:26,560
Speaker 2: up as well. If we end up coming back for

2347
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 2: the June fifteenth Las Vegas PBC pay per view with

2348
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,640
Speaker 2: Dravante and the main event against Frank Martin, David Benavitez

2349
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 2: and the Cole Maine moving up to light.

2350
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 3: Heavy against that could be a good time to be

2351
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 3: a great time.

2352
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 2: Maybe this is our future just taking.

2353
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 3: Over, you know, from your lips to God's ears. Right, yeah,

2354
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 3: I like that too.

2355
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 2: Thank you to our great fans. Thank you to the

2356
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 2: staff here at the Sirius XM studios at.

2357
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 3: Very much very professional. Look at the great the studio looks.

2358
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 4: Huh, it does look great. Thank you of course to

2359
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 4: our friends over at DraftKings. And speaking Luke of our

2360
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 4: friendship that.

2361
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 2: We have with our great partnership partnership, you could say, well,

2362
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:04,719
Speaker 2: I think at this point it's a little more friendly,

2363
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's you know what I'm saying.

2364
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 3: But there's a professional entanglement as well.

2365
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 2: There is. And here's the deal.

2366
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 4: We know what you want, big time fights, and you're

2367
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 4: getting it Saturday with UFC three oh one. But how

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01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 4: about Canelo versus Mongia If you download the Draftking Sportsbook

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01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 4: in bonus bets. Luke put five dollars on the line

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01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 4: for Canelo versus Mongia with our promo code MK. And

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01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,400
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Speaker 4: orange tie can get two hundred dollars in bonus bets.

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Speaker 3: But not just him, anybody who does that.

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Speaker 5: Anybody who gets the Draftking Sportsbook app signs up puts

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Speaker 3: Use the promo code MK. The letters.

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Speaker 2: What about these two gentlemen? Can they get it to As.

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Speaker 5: Long as they meet the the standard requirements, they can

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Speaker 5: certainly be eligible.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, this is fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I love great partner. I gotta take a dump. Can

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Speaker 3: we end this?

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Speaker 4: Our partnership, Luke is sometimes rocky, but we're doing great.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much folks for joining us. We had

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Speaker 4: a great weekend. And if you haven't seen yesterday's Radio

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Speaker 4: Row Interview special, check it out.

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Speaker 2: Uh people like that.

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Speaker 4: We're back in good grace. Sclario, Howani so nice. Hey, ladies,

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Speaker 4: I'll check you guys out later, all right. For Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 4: for the great staff here Manich and more here at

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Speaker 4: Sirius XM Studios, And to all the great fine folks

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Speaker 4: who have watched our programming, thank you so very much.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy the fights this weekend. I'm sure you can find

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Speaker 4: our work related to it wherever we are there. I'll

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Speaker 4: be on the on the hunt for CBS Sports Saturday

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Speaker 4: inside the arena for Canolo versus Mangia.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. This is the beginning of

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Speaker 2: something big. We're coming for it. Luke, We're going to

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Speaker 2: reach through that screen and bring all of our viewers

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Speaker 2: to full orgasm.

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Speaker 3: Please finish this we out. I'm gonna bring him to orgasm,

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Speaker 3: all right. I'm gonna use the restroom. I have to

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Speaker 3: ship something fierce.

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Speaker 2: Hey, that's turned into a good show.

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01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 3: That was a great show.

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Speaker 5: Would have been nicer to have a guest, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't do much.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, right,