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Speaker 1: Joining us now from Washington is Judy Suit, the acting

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Speaker 1: US Secretary of Labor, Judy c wonderfully to catch up

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Speaker 1: with you a hot labor market report at a time

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Speaker 1: where the unions seem to have a lot of leverage.

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Speaker 1: So let's go straight there. What's your latest read on

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Speaker 1: the UAW negotiations.

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Speaker 2: Well, the parties at the table, they continue to negotiate.

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Speaker 2: The President has made very clear something I believe in too,

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Speaker 2: that when there are record corporate profits, there should be

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Speaker 2: record contracts for working people. And that's what workers are

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Speaker 2: fighting for. So the negotiations continue and I believe that

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Speaker 2: the parties will get there.

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Speaker 1: Are you getting access to both parties to have negotiate

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Speaker 1: a settlement?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking to both parties. I mean again, the

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Speaker 2: collective bargaining process is about the parties themselves coming together,

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Speaker 2: working through their issues, finding common ground and win win solutions.

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Speaker 2: We support that in every way that we can, and

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Speaker 2: we are continuing to talk to the parties in that

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Speaker 2: particular situation.

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Speaker 1: What have you heard recently about current demands from UAW.

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Speaker 1: We understand that wage to balance have come down from

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Speaker 1: forty closer to thirty. Is that you'll read on things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and the negotiation is always about movement on

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Speaker 2: both sides at this point. You know, I think it's

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Speaker 2: always hard to know exactly where something will land. I

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Speaker 2: think as long as they're talking to each other, that

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Speaker 2: is positive, and that is what is happening.

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Speaker 1: You're sensing the gap is closing, the spread is narrowed.

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Speaker 2: I'll say it this way. You know, I've seen this

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Speaker 2: a lot. I think that the parties always seem like

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Speaker 2: they're far apart until they're not. So that does require

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Speaker 2: it always requires movement, and I think the continued engagement

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Speaker 2: is a positive thing, and it's part of the reflection

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Speaker 2: of President Biden and this administration's commitment to workers getting

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Speaker 2: their fair share in an economy that is doing really well.

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Speaker 1: We also have haalthcat strikes as well. I understand you've

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Speaker 1: met leadership from both sides. Judy, how different is that

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Speaker 1: particular strike? What do you think is going on there?

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Speaker 2: I mean, every strike has its unique issues, right every

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Speaker 2: you know, the industries are different, the specific demands are different.

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Speaker 2: But I think at the bottom line is that we

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Speaker 2: are seeing a resurgence in worker power, in support for

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Speaker 2: unions in the economy and for working people demanding their

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Speaker 2: fair share, saying you know enough of the disparities between

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Speaker 2: what frontline workers make and what CEOs make, making sure

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Speaker 2: that there is an opportunity for workers to improve their

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Speaker 2: working conditions and live stable lives. Is this is not

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Speaker 2: just an accident in a Biden Harris administration. It is

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Speaker 2: very much a deliberate part of how we think a

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Speaker 2: strong economy and a strong country works.

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Speaker 3: Madam Secretary, as you rightly said, we are seeing a

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Speaker 3: shift back in bargaining power towards labor after decades where

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Speaker 3: it went the other way. That's being reflected in a

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Speaker 3: spike higher in number of days of strikes throughout the army.

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Speaker 3: Should we expect that numbers to go even higher?

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Speaker 2: I think it also reflects really record contract results. Right,

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Speaker 2: so we've seen from the ports on the West Coast

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Speaker 2: to the teamsters and ups, really results that demonstrate workers

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Speaker 2: getting more in wages and being forced over time dealing

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Speaker 2: with other specific issues within certain industries are automation and

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Speaker 2: the like, addressing conditions like heat and other kinds of

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Speaker 2: health and safety issues. So I think those are the

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Speaker 2: big results, and some of them we're talking about, you know,

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Speaker 2: we don't talk about them as much, but there are

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Speaker 2: you know, graduate workers who have gone on strike for

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Speaker 2: brief periods and gotten contracts that they want. So I

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Speaker 2: don't know what the average number of days is, but

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Speaker 2: I do know that workers coming to the table, being

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Speaker 2: able to have the right to demand their fair share

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Speaker 2: is something that has been positive for workers, and it's

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Speaker 2: very much part of the strong economy that we've been

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Speaker 2: talking about, and the Job's.

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Speaker 3: Report reflects this, and yet we have not seen that

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Speaker 3: in the numbers on earnings. So is it just a

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Speaker 3: lag effect. Are we going to see it going forward,

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Speaker 3: or is that something else going on in the economy

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Speaker 3: that's offsetting those gains that you talked about for workers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so earnings are up a bit. You know, we

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Speaker 2: definitely especially see that among lower wage workers, which is

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Speaker 2: part of this idea that you know, we the President

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Speaker 2: has said, we're going to build an economy that leaves

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Speaker 2: no one behind, that starts by looking at who's been

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Speaker 2: left behind in the past. And to the extent that

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Speaker 2: those lower wage workers are seeing average gains that are

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Speaker 2: that are growing and also that are higher than inflation,

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Speaker 2: means that workers have more money in their pockets, more

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Speaker 2: to spend in their local economies. That's also partly fueling

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Speaker 2: the other effects of the jobs report, which is, you know,

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Speaker 2: more job growth in leisure hospitality, for example. All the

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Speaker 2: taken together, along with a historically low unemployment rate still

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Speaker 2: under four percent for over a year and a half,

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Speaker 2: the longest stretch of the nineteen sixties, are all signs

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Speaker 2: of this economy is a place you know is yeah,

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Speaker 2: is doing well because of good economic policies and workers

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Speaker 2: having a seat at the table.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about those policies. There is something really peculiar

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Speaker 1: going on at the moment. If you think about what's

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Speaker 1: happening in the picket line. They have serious concerns about

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Speaker 1: the ev transition and their participation in it. A transition

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Speaker 1: that you are subsidizing. Something really odd from my perspective,

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Speaker 1: and I'd love some clarity from you on it. Why

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Speaker 1: is the government offering rich people credits to buy expensive cars?

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Speaker 2: So a couple of things. There is widespread support in

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Speaker 2: the country for tax credits that will help to bring

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Speaker 2: manufacturing jobs to the United States. That's part of what

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Speaker 2: we're trying to do. The other is that we do

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Speaker 2: have a climate crisis. Right We saw record heat across

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Speaker 2: the entire country.

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Speaker 1: Without a doubt. Can I just jump in without a doubt?

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, But I just think we're

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Speaker 1: conflating solving a climate crisis with driving really heavy SUVs

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Speaker 1: the run out of electricity. Those two things part of

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Speaker 1: the same story, because I don't get it. If I'm

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Speaker 1: driving an electrified f one point fifty, am I really

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Speaker 1: safe in the planet? Right?

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Speaker 2: Well, so we can probably have a conversation out about

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Speaker 2: personal choices relating to cars. I do think as a

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Speaker 2: policy matter, the more that we can invest in industries,

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Speaker 2: in manufacturing, including in transportation, that transitions us to a

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Speaker 2: place where we're not, you know, we're not continue to

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Speaker 2: pollute the planet.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: We have a method by which we can both bring

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Speaker 2: down emissions and also create good jobs. And the President

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Speaker 2: has always said this solve your climate crisis. When he

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Speaker 2: looks at that, it's also about creating good jobs, and

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Speaker 2: good union jobs in communities that need them the most.

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Speaker 2: And we are really focused on making sure that that

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Speaker 2: transition does not leave workers behind, and that what's good

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Speaker 2: for the climate can be good for workers as well.

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Speaker 1: Judy appreciate the update. Judy Sue, acting US Secretary of

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Speaker 1: labor