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Speaker 2: Cowboys three and a half point favorites at the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Will recap all the football. There were some ugly football yesterday.

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Speaker 2: There was some entertaining football. There's also some situations that

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Speaker 2: probably warrant a closer look. Are the Lions that good?

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Speaker 2: Are the Chiefs that good? Are the Ravens that good?

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Speaker 2: Are the Seahawks that good? I'm not quite sure because

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Speaker 2: both of my Super Bowl teams lost yesterday, the Lions

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Speaker 2: and the Chiefs, and they're on the outside of the

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Speaker 2: playoff picture looking in, and I start to wonder here.

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Speaker 2: You know, NFC North is a tough sledding here, and

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Speaker 2: it's not a foregone conclusion that the Lions are the

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Speaker 2: best team in that division. And they might be, but

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Speaker 2: you know, everybody else is capable of providing a scare

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Speaker 2: or maybe, you know, maybe Green Bay wakes up and

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Speaker 2: realizes you got a defense that's this good and you

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Speaker 2: might blow this opportunity. Josh Jacobs and that injury, the

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Speaker 2: severity of that their season could hinge on that He's

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Speaker 2: that valuable, but in no particular order. You know, watching

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Speaker 2: the Eagles with the Lions last night, Jared Goff Vanilla, Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give the you know, the defense a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of credit here, because the Eagles defense is

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Speaker 2: still pretty good. The offense, you know, and if you're

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Speaker 2: relying on Jalen Hurts to throw almost thirty passes, that

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Speaker 2: concerns me, yeah, because it should be starting with Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 2: The teams are doing a pretty good job saying, all right,

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Speaker 2: let's see if Jalen Hurts can beat us. And I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't I wouldn't go to my graves saying Jalen Hurt's

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Speaker 2: going to beat you through the air. Bad call at

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Speaker 2: the end, that was offensive pass interference. But you know, Detroit,

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Speaker 2: just you know you're going to have that aggressive play

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Speaker 2: calling from Dan Campbell and you're going forward on fourth down.

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Speaker 2: You know, at some point you got to realize maybe

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Speaker 2: your team in that game, in that moment is not

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Speaker 2: going to pick up the first down. And sometimes three

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Speaker 2: points is okay, I'm okay, I like to you know,

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Speaker 2: it feels like it's a participatatory three points. Hey, you

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Speaker 2: got to get something here, all right, we'll give you

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Speaker 2: three points. I don't want to come away with nothing.

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Speaker 2: And that hurt. That hurt the Lions, the Chiefs. I

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Speaker 2: kept waiting, kept waiting, still waiting, and give Denver's defense

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of credit.

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Speaker 3: And Bo Nicks made some plays. That's what you want,

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Speaker 3: you known.

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Speaker 2: Tony Romo was talking about that, you know, give me

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Speaker 2: that kind of defense and give me a quarterback who

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Speaker 2: can make plays in the fourth quarter, which kind of

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Speaker 2: sounds like the Chiefs. But here they are average and

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Speaker 2: maybe not making the playoffs. But if they do make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, you know, I'm looking at the odds here,

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Speaker 2: you know, because I'm curious about Super Bowl odds after

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Speaker 2: this week. The team with the best odds to win

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, Todd, I'll start with you. Who does

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Speaker 2: DraftKings have the number one team? I think they're still

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Speaker 2: going to go with the Chiefs, all right.

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Speaker 3: Marvin the Bills, Paul the Rams, Dylan the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: It's the Rams, followed closely by the Eagles, and then

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Speaker 2: it's the Bills, Colts, Seahawks and Chiefs are tied. Then

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Speaker 2: it's the Lions, Ravens, Broncos, and then the Patriots So

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Speaker 2: this is according to DraftKings this morning, and the Rams

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Speaker 2: got four interceptions from Sam Darnold and could have lost

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Speaker 2: the game. That Seattle defense is good. But if you're

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Speaker 2: the Rams, you're like, why is this teams still in

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Speaker 2: the game. You couldn't put them away. The Eagles Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: that's a big win. You know that this is a

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Speaker 2: depleted Tampa Bay team. Give credit Tampa, you know, at

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Speaker 2: least being on the road and putting up a fight there.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, that's pretty incredible stat line for him. The

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Speaker 2: Seahawks with the loss, and the Chiefs the Lions. The

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Speaker 2: Ravens won, But anyone that's not one of those where

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Speaker 3: Kind of go heah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Dylan Gabriel has not played well, but if

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Speaker 2: he stays in Cleveland, probably wins that game. And Shnirah

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Speaker 2: Sanders got in. Look, the offensive line is not good

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Speaker 2: and also he has no pocket awareness none. Now that

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Speaker 2: probably stems from not trusting your offensive line, but they

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Speaker 2: still could have won the game. The Broncos at defense,

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Speaker 2: you know, when you're when you're getting the Chiefs to

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Speaker 2: settle for field goals, you were in great shape, but

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Speaker 2: you know they're they're putting pressure on Mahomes. You get

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Speaker 2: nine hits on him. So that's just some of the

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Speaker 2: for Seaton. You come up with the poll question today?

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Speaker 4: All right, Dan, So Paulie sent me this. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: kind of populate the answers who had the worst loss

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Speaker 4: in the NFL this weekend. We've got some options here, Chiefs, Lions, Bucks, Seahawks, Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, the Chargers, Heath, I know you just

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Speaker 3: six point. I mean, come on, what are we doing.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of teams that were just gonna go

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Speaker 2: let me wait until the playoffs, and the Chargers are

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Speaker 2: one of those teams. Seattle's one of those teams where

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Speaker 2: I don't care what your record is. Now you got

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Speaker 2: to produce in a big way in a big moment,

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Speaker 2: and I don't trust those teams.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Paully, the Chargers are still seven and four, they're

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Speaker 5: still doing well in their division. I could find you

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Speaker 5: articles from September where Justin Herbert was the leader for

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Speaker 5: MVP and the Chargers were the hot team and they

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Speaker 5: score six points at Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the Chiefs here. They got the

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Speaker 2: Colts at home. The Chiefs are at the Cowboys, they

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Speaker 2: host the Texans, they host the Chargers, They're at the Titans,

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Speaker 2: they host the Broncos, and then they're at the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they could end up with ten wins.

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Speaker 2: They could easily, in my opinion, ten wins because let's

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Speaker 2: say they beat the Colts, they beat the Cowboys, they

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Speaker 2: beat the Texans, they beat the Chargers, they're at the Titan.

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Speaker 2: They could win that. I mean, they got the Broncos

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Speaker 2: at home. This is not a difficult That's why Vegas

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Speaker 2: still likes the Chiefs is one of the Super Bowl favorites.

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Speaker 2: They're five and five, and we know how dangerous they are.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what their record is, just as long

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Speaker 2: as they get in. I'm looking at the Ravens because

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Speaker 2: Vegas likes the Ravens to win that division, and with

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Speaker 2: the injury to Aaron Rodgers, so the Ravens have the

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Speaker 2: Jets at home, Bengals at home, Steelers at home. Then

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Speaker 2: they're at the Bengals Patriots in Baltimore. Then they're at

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Speaker 2: Green Bay, and then they're at Pittsburgh. Okay, so they

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Speaker 2: could end up with nine wins. They could go nine

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Speaker 2: and seven. If I look at the Lions, the Lions

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Speaker 2: at six and four. They host the Giants, they host

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Speaker 2: the Packers, they host the Cowboys. Okay, they could win

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Speaker 2: all three. Then they're at the Rams, Steelers at home,

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Speaker 2: They're at the Vikings and at the Bears. Okay, the

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Speaker 2: division games are That's what's tricky here With Detroit. I

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Speaker 2: could look at Detroit winning ten games. Giants at home,

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Speaker 2: Packers at home, Cowboys at home. Steelers. Yeah, I could

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Speaker 2: see ten wins for them. I could see ten wins

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Speaker 2: for the Chiefs, maybe eleven. Baltimore, I could see maybe

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Speaker 2: nine wins. But you know, it depends on when you're

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Speaker 2: playing who you're playing, Like, you can't afford a loss

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Speaker 2: to the Jets or the Bengals are coming to town,

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Speaker 2: you know, even the Steelers. But that's always a tough game,

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Speaker 2: that's knockdown, drag out. Then you're at the Bengals, Patriots

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Speaker 2: come to town. You're at Green Bay and at Pittsburgh. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so it gets a little tougher there. But I could

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Speaker 2: see them nine wins, maybe ten Chiefs. I would look

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Speaker 2: at ten wins and the Lions probably got the Giants, Packers, Cowboys, Okay,

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Speaker 2: they could win all three at the Rams, not good

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Speaker 2: Steelers at home. Okay, so I'll give them ten wins.

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Speaker 2: Give them ten wins. The thing with the Ravens is

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Speaker 2: they don't look good like Lamar Jackson didn't look good

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Speaker 2: at all. I mean when you're getting out played by

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabra like that to me was alarming because I thought, okay,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, going back to the Chiefs, I don't know

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Speaker 5: if this is legal, and I think it's called collusion,

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Speaker 5: But can all the AFC teams share notes on how

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Speaker 5: to keep the Chiefs out of the playoffs. It's like

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Speaker 5: when Michael Jordan left to go play baseball. If they

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Speaker 5: missed the playoffs, it's like, oh, it's it's open now

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Speaker 5: everyone has a chance.

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Speaker 3: Here's Patrick Mahomes after the loss.

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Speaker 6: Obviously it's gonna be tough, tough to get back in

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Speaker 6: the division race, but I'm at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: you all the goal is to get into the playoffs

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Speaker 6: and try to make a run at it, and all

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Speaker 6: you can focus on is his next week. We got

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Speaker 6: to learn from this one as much as possible, knowing

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Speaker 6: that we're gonna get a great opponent coming into Arrowhead

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Speaker 6: this next week. And we're kind of at that point

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Speaker 6: where we got to find a way just to win

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Speaker 6: win football games and got gotta keep moving forward. That's

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Speaker 6: what this league's all about.

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Speaker 2: It's like you pull a string and then he just

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Speaker 2: spits out an answer. There used to be a doll

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Speaker 2: called Chatty Kathy, and you pulled the string and then

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Speaker 2: she would just say, you know, these scripted things. That's

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Speaker 2: what it sounds like after a loss like that, tough

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Speaker 2: loss like that. All right, we're five and five, we're average,

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Speaker 2: but we're above average.

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Speaker 3: When we get to the postseason.

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Speaker 2: It's like the Eagles yesterday, they didn't look good, but

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Speaker 2: that's a big win. You know, style points in college

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Speaker 2: it matters, not in the NFL, but you got the

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Speaker 2: win wasn't pretty and still goes back to the Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: He's an average passing quarterback, but he's an above average

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Speaker 2: quarterback when it gets to the postseason. And that's what

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Speaker 2: this is all about. Seattle. Though, watching that, I kept

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Speaker 2: thinking they could win this game. Unbelievable punt to pin

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Speaker 2: unbelievable punt and then you're trying to get into field

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Speaker 2: A guy who deserves a victory lap. Tim Hasselbeck of

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Speaker 2: goes well, and then the big German found out that

431
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Speaker 2: Seaton went into a parking garage and the overhead was

432
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Speaker 2: not as much overhead as he thought. So he was

433
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Speaker 2: going in and I think he heard the and then

434
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Speaker 2: there was a car behind him. So he kept going

435
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Speaker 2: into the parking garage. But then he had to come

436
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Speaker 2: out of the parking garage. So it's not like Tommy Boy,

437
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 2: you know, with their car when they were driving it.

438
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Speaker 2: But I think we're gonna have to get Maco to

439
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Speaker 2: fix the Makeo Van. Yes, Dylan, you know.

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Speaker 4: What's funny is so when I first started here, Dan,

441
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Speaker 4: one of my jobs was driving the box truck around

442
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Speaker 4: when we're doing the studio build which we rented. And

443
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 4: when you rent one of those box trucks, every single

444
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 4: thing is ensured unless you shear the top of it off,

445
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Speaker 4: because that is most commonly what happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big German. I talked to him yesterday. I said, hey,

447
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: so that scratch he goes, well, I would say scratches, scratches,

448
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: but he got into the garage. But then he had

449
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: to get out of the garage, so we had to

450
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: just go back and scrape it up. So seatanl Join

451
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Speaker 2: is coming up here a little bit later on more

452
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Speaker 2: of your phone calls as well. By the way, there

453
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: were five teams who won their game on the final

454
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 2: play yesterday wild and a couple of them were happening

455
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Speaker 2: like simultaneously, and I was watching the red zone and

456
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: all of a sudden it was like, oh, there's a

457
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Speaker 2: that's a winner, and there that's a winner. So it

458
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: just feels like you get these one score Now. Then

459
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: you have the Chargers against Jacksonville. You're thinking that could

460
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Speaker 2: be a one score game.

461
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Speaker 3: And it was.

462
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Speaker 2: The Chargers had one score and that was it. It

463
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Speaker 2: was a one score game.

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Speaker 3: All right. Poll question for hour two is gonna be

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Speaker 3: what doing all right? Dan?

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Speaker 4: This is from Marvin. Actually, if you're not a Raiders

467
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Speaker 4: or Cowboys fan, why are you watching the game tonight.

468
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 4: I have money on the game. That would be my answer.

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Speaker 4: I'll take any football no matter what. It's better than

470
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Speaker 4: being with my family or other.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Monday night football it's always special. Joe

472
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: and Troy. Yeah, if Howard Cosell was doing the game,

473
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Speaker 3: I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 2: You know these are these are legendary franchises, good uniforms.

475
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Pauline, this is the kind of night where you

476
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Speaker 5: need the Manning cast and they're on tonight because the

477
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Speaker 5: game may not be juicy, but the Mannings can have

478
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Speaker 5: some fun with blank guests and fill in the blank

479
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Speaker 5: a little bit. Because this is a game you could

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Speaker 5: skip the first quarter and do other things easily.

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Speaker 12: Well.

482
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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna score a lot of points. I

483
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 2: think the over under is like fifty and a half.

484
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Speaker 2: Cowboys favored by three and a half. Yes, Todd, it's

485
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Speaker 2: the football.

486
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Speaker 13: Even if you're have in the background, it's you know,

487
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Speaker 13: it's the last game of the week. It's there's something comforting.

488
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Speaker 13: Whether you like the voices of a Joe or Troy,

489
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Speaker 13: you just want to have a live football and in

490
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Speaker 13: the background, almost as a night light, while you're kind

491
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Speaker 13: of dozing off.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's all. I'm good experience, but thank you.

493
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Speaker 2: We spent a little bit of time talking about the

494
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Speaker 2: situation with Pittsburgh and then the Cincinnati Bengals, Jamar Chase,

495
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Speaker 2: the spitting incident on Jalen Ramsey. Jayalen Ramsey went through

496
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: in great detail kind of how this happened, dalling back

497
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Speaker 2: and forth and then all of a sudden he spit

498
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Speaker 2: on him. Jayalen Ramsey punched, Jamar Chase got kicked out

499
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Speaker 2: of the game. Then we find out after the game

500
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Speaker 2: there is video evidence of Jamar Chase spitting on Jalen Ramsey.

501
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 3: Here is Jamar Chase with his excuse.

502
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 11: He was saying that you spin on him? Did you

503
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 11: spin on him?

504
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: I never opened my mouth to that guy, So what do.

505
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 12: You think proud did the reaction from him.

506
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 3: Well, he don't like some of us swears.

507
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Speaker 12: I told him We've been going back and forth the

508
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 12: whole time, so I'm sure some got under this skin.

509
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Speaker 11: So it was building the whole game. It just wasn't

510
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Speaker 11: on that drive.

511
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Speaker 3: And the first time we had an education and then

512
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: it was a second time.

513
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Speaker 2: Okay, well he's lying and there's video evidence. I don't

514
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: know what was said, but there's nothing that is going

515
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: to be said that warrants that. And this is where

516
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 2: I'm really curious what the NFL does. Is it just

517
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: one game? Because you know, and this has happened down

518
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: through the years with the NFL, We've had incidents. We've

519
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: had no names, we've had big names. We've had somebody

520
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Speaker 2: getting spit on the Super Bowl. Steve Smith told us

521
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: that he got spit on. So you've got Bill Romanowski

522
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Speaker 2: spitting on a play. And you know, so there's guys

523
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Speaker 2: me and Joe Green allegedly spitting on Conrad Dobler. It's happened,

524
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Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean that, you know, it's part of

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Speaker 2: the game. It should be there should be a real

526
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Speaker 2: strong deterrent here.

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Speaker 3: Now.

528
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Speaker 2: I don't know if the NFL can say, all right,

529
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Speaker 2: we suspended Jalen Carter for the game against the Cowboys,

530
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Speaker 2: and therefore you can't come down harder on Jamar Chase,

531
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Speaker 2: can you? Because I would suspend somebody for a couple

532
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: of games. The message sink in because with that, think

533
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: about the repercussions ramification. Let's say Jamar Chase he's suspended

534
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: for this next game. So you lose a game. Check

535
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: now you may lose that game. Therefore, there is no

536
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: reason to bring Joe Burrow back. And you have a

537
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: head coach who might be coaching for his job. So yes,

538
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: you got caught up in the moment you spit on somebody.

539
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: So Burrow's now not going to play. Your coach may

540
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: get fired, probably will, and then you're gonna have another

541
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Speaker 2: loss here. So it's not just a stupid moment here.

542
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: It could be it could metastasize the issues with the

543
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dealing.

545
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Speaker 4: It was also funny how he said, I've never opened

546
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Speaker 4: my mouth to that guy, and then he was like,

547
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: so Whitey punched. He's like, well he didn't like the

548
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 4: words I was saying. I was like, I believe that

549
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 4: is opening your mouth. Still. Also, the if you're going

550
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Speaker 4: purely on spit volume, his was way worse than Jalen

551
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Speaker 4: Carter's even maybe that's two games.

552
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if the NFL has the authority

553
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: to be able to do that or the NFL Player

554
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: Association comes in and say, hey wait a minute here,

555
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: one game, but he's he The reporter did ask a

556
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: little bit later on in that conversation. He asked him

557
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: again about did you spit on Jalen Ramsey and he

558
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: said no, So he doubled down. And you know maybe

559
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: he's thinking, well, there's no nobody's got that video. I

560
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: gets just his word against mine. But you know they're

561
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: all crowded in there. Somebody else had to see it.

562
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Speaker 2: I'm guessing, yes, Todd.

563
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 11: Some people have active salary.

564
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Speaker 13: Glare is just Possiblely you'll put your mouth like when

565
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 13: you're detentist and things start squirting it out. Then you

566
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Speaker 13: don't even realize what you're doing.

567
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Speaker 3: You if that happened with you, you would have an excuse.

568
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 11: I have very active salary.

569
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Speaker 2: G Yes, if you did that and you spit on me,

570
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Speaker 2: then I'd say and you could say I am sorry,

571
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: and I would.

572
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 7: Believe you that you didn't mean to I would hope, so, yes, boy,

573
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Speaker 7: And when you're watching in real time, I don't think

574
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 7: jamar Cha nationally has a bad reputation of getting in

575
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 7: trouble on or off the field.

576
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Speaker 5: So when I saw, like, oh, Ramsey losing is cool,

577
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 5: you assume it's that because you can't see it the

578
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 5: spit when it happens, and they didn't replay it during

579
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 5: the game.

580
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, Jalen Ramsey loves to talk, and

581
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: I'm guessing Jamar Chase does too, but I'd be curious.

582
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: So a couple of things I'm waiting for, see what

583
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: the NFL does to Jamar Chase, an update on Aaron Rodgers,

584
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: and an update on Josh Jacobs. I think that's kind

585
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: of what we're waiting for. I don't think they're going

586
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: to do anything to Jamar Chase this morning, but I'm

587
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: guessing MRI with Rogers non throwing hand and Josh Jacobs

588
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: with the knee injury for the Green Bay Packers. All right,

589
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: we'll take a break. We'll talk some more football coming up.

590
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: Your phone calls as well. We're back after this and

591
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Speaker 2: the Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 3: Well hear from Josh Allen.

597
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: Incredible performance and they needed all of that against Tampa Bay.

598
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Speaker 2: That'll be coming up in a little bit. More of

599
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Speaker 2: your phone calls as well. Update the poll results. We

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Speaker 2: are a I told you so. Sports Society whether you're

601
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Speaker 2: an armchair quarterback, whether you're a host, whether you're an analyst.

602
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: Your quick to say I told you, I told you

603
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: not too many times. It's like gambling. You always tell

604
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: people when you win. You don't tell people when you lose.

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to have Tim Hasselback on because Tim

606
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: said this last or a couple of years ago, where

607
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: he talked about Drake May, and this is two years

608
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Speaker 2: ago this month that he was telling us how great

609
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Speaker 2: Drake May is. And a lot of times we move

610
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Speaker 2: on from that, or you can tell some you know, hey,

611
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Speaker 2: I told you it was now I actually heard it,

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Speaker 2: and I said to Fritzy, I said, get Tim on.

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Speaker 2: You deserve a victory lap. Tim Hasselback, go on and

614
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Speaker 2: take it. What did you see that made you think

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Speaker 2: this was the best quarterback in that draft?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 12: Then I think what I saw it was just like

618
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Speaker 12: the phisical tools were obviously there, like that was a

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Speaker 12: no brainer. And that's the case a lot of times

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Speaker 12: with guys, you know, they're just like physically talented and

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Speaker 12: that type of thing. But I think there were other

622
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Speaker 12: things about him in terms of just his makeup, you know,

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Speaker 12: in terms of like what his path was through high school,

624
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Speaker 12: kind of what his upbringing was, what it was like

625
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Speaker 12: in terms of what his experience was like at Carolina,

626
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Speaker 12: how it started things he kind of had to persevere through.

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Speaker 12: And I just say this, like, I you know, I'm

628
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Speaker 12: not I think I said to you, you know, back then,

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Speaker 12: like I'm not a you know, the hot takes aren't

630
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Speaker 12: really me. That's not what you know I've done, I

631
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 12: guess over the last eighteen years or so. But so

632
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Speaker 12: I appreciate the victory lap. I usually don't get those.

633
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 11: I hear when I'm wrong a lot, so so.

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Speaker 12: I appreciate you you you.

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Speaker 11: Know, bringing that back.

636
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Speaker 12: But anybody who's in the media who does an evaluation

637
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Speaker 12: of college quarterbacks has an in complete assessment of them

638
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 12: unless they have the ability to do like what Gruden

639
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 12: used to do in terms of those quarterback interviews, because truthfully,

640
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 12: like those are as valuable in the evaluation process as

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00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 12: seeing somebody throw live and probably more beneficial than seeing

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00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 12: somebody throw live. So, you know, at the time, I

643
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 12: had the benefits of calling Carolina games over multiple years

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Speaker 12: and being able to meet with Drake, and so when

645
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Speaker 12: you can sit with somebody and say okay, well why

646
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 12: did that happen?

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Speaker 11: What did you see here?

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Speaker 12: That tells you way more than just watching somebody's film

649
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Speaker 12: and making an assessment on it. So, look, I've been

650
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 12: right about other guys in the past, I've been wrong

651
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 12: about other guys in the past. To me, there was

652
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 12: really nothing wrong with him as a prospect coming out,

653
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Speaker 12: and from my conversations with him, it was like, this

654
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 12: guy totally gets it, gets everything about play in the

655
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Speaker 12: position and what it would be like to have to

656
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Speaker 12: be the leader of a franchise.

657
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Speaker 2: One other topic, and I know most of your NFL

658
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: career was as a backup, and much has been made

659
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Speaker 2: about Shadoor Sanders that he didn't get first team reps,

660
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Speaker 2: and you know, Chase Daniel Josh McCown tweeted out, the

661
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: backup quarterback doesn't get first team reps. It's standard. But

662
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Speaker 2: it feels like everybody keeps trying to make excuses for

663
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Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders and that shouldn't be one of them, that

664
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Speaker 2: he didn't get first team reps. So as a backup quarterback,

665
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Speaker 2: how often would you get first team reps during the week?

666
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Speaker 11: Yeah?

667
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 12: Never, So you know, Chase and Luke are exactly right.

668
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 12: They've lived it, just like every backup has lived it.

669
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Speaker 12: And what's interesting about being the backup is you don't

670
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 12: get any reps. But when you're thrown in there, everyone

671
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 12: wants you to play like a starter, and when you don't,

672
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 12: no one says, oh, well, you know, well Timmy didn't

673
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 12: get the reps. Like it doesn't work that like it

674
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 12: just that's just that's how it goes. It's the same

675
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 12: thing at pretty much every position. You might you know,

676
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Speaker 12: some spots just because of the running and things like

677
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 12: that at practice. You know, you could lighten the load

678
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 12: at certain positions you know, are running back, maybe who's

679
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 12: who's had a bunch of touches throughout the season. But

680
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Speaker 12: really the way it works is you only get so

681
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Speaker 12: many plays in practice. You know, like guys don't go

682
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Speaker 12: in at eight o'clock and practice plays until five thirty.

683
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Speaker 11: It doesn't wear like you'll wear people out like it's

684
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 11: a long season.

685
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Speaker 12: And so look, it might be twelve seven on seven reps,

686
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Speaker 12: fourteen team reps, and then by those, you know you

687
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Speaker 12: kind of section them out in terms of you know,

688
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 12: situational football, Well you give those to the guys that

689
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 12: you're expecting to be playing, especially if it's a you know,

690
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 12: a relatively young, inexperienced player, you know, so like that's

691
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Speaker 12: that is standard practice across the league. And really the

692
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Speaker 12: only time they backup would get at any type of

693
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Speaker 12: work at the quarterback position is if you know, the

694
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 12: starter is just you know, in year fifteen, year eighteen,

695
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 12: and they're kind of like designed days off. Other than that,

696
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 12: the starter takes all the reps. That's just how it

697
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 12: works in the NFL.

698
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Speaker 2: And watching Shudor and granted he gets far more attention

699
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 2: than he should, his pocket awareness is not very good.

700
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: His decision making is not very good. These are all

701
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: things this is you know, why he was taken late

702
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Speaker 2: in the draft. Now, those are things that I feel

703
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: like he can correct. But this isn't Colorado. You know.

704
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: Now you're in the NFL and you're going against the

705
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: Ravens and they're going after your head. I mean, they

706
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: know you're going to throw, and you go four for sixteen,

707
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: throw an interception, and I don't know what happens after this.

708
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: I guess it depends on Dylan Gabriel. But it feels

709
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: like Dylan Gabriel got that starting job Tim because he

710
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: was quicker at the line of scrimmage.

711
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Speaker 3: He did get the ball out.

712
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's better, but I think he's

713
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Speaker 2: better at the things that at least can help you

714
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Speaker 2: keep a drive alive.

715
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Speaker 12: It's typically obvious in terms of the quarterbacks. They're on

716
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 12: a roster of who's most ready to play. It's typically

717
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 12: very obvious. You know, a lot of times, you know,

718
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 12: people will talk about, well, hey, the coach made the

719
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 12: decision to go with this guy or that guy. Usually

720
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Speaker 12: what happens is, you know, if there's any type of

721
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 12: parody in terms of the amount of reps guys get,

722
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 12: it's very clear who's operating the situation better, you know.

723
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Speaker 11: Than the next guy. It's just it's obvious. You know.

724
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Speaker 12: There are very few times that it's like, I'm not

725
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Speaker 12: really sure.

726
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Speaker 11: It seems to be pretty even.

727
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Speaker 12: And so that's why, Like when you look at how

728
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 12: things panned out at the beginning part of the year

729
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 12: in Cleveland, I think it was pretty obvious to them

730
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Speaker 12: like that, you know, Flacco was at the time the

731
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Speaker 12: most prepared to do it, and if Gabriel was the

732
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Speaker 12: next guy up through the process, like it was most

733
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Speaker 12: likely very obvious to everyone there that was making decison

734
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Speaker 12: that he was the most prepared to operate it, and

735
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Speaker 12: Dan like Sometimes it can be as simple as can

736
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 12: you actually spit the playout in the huddle correctly?

737
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Speaker 11: Can you actually get to the line of scrimmage?

738
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Speaker 12: And when someone lines up incorrectly, can you get them

739
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 12: lined up on the right side of the field. And

740
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Speaker 12: when you get a front or a look that doesn't

741
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 12: work with the run or the protection you have called,

742
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 12: can you make the adjustment?

743
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 11: You know by making the call.

744
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 12: And if you can't do those things, oftentimes you know

745
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 12: if a guy is ready to play or not before

746
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 12: he ever.

747
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 11: Even snaps the ball.

748
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Speaker 12: In practice, it's just a matter of can you at

749
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Speaker 12: least get us to the point where you're giving us

750
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 12: a chance before your ability to make.

751
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 11: A throw or make somebody miss ever comes into play.

752
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Speaker 2: Talking to Tim Asselback ESPN, NFL college football analysts, former

753
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback, give me the best pro prospect in college

754
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: football at quarterback this year?

755
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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, now the pressure's on.

756
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Speaker 12: You know you're hitting me. Oh man, you're hitting me

757
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 12: way too early because I don't want to do this.

758
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 12: Like then I and I this is gonna be a

759
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 12: cop out. Maybe you'll never invite me back again. But

760
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Speaker 12: I don't like doing as well saying something without.

761
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Speaker 11: Having really watched.

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Speaker 12: And here's why I say that. Here's why I say that.

763
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Speaker 12: So I've been at ESPN for you know, I think

764
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Speaker 12: this is year eighteen, and you know, I've always taken

765
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Speaker 12: the approach. Look, I was not a star player, and

766
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Speaker 12: so I've always felt like I've had to take my

767
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Speaker 12: job as an analyst, you know, and approach it the

768
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Speaker 12: way I did is is basically somebody that was always

769
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Speaker 12: clinging to a roster spot. And early on in my career,

770
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Speaker 12: uh in TV, I paid too much attention to what

771
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Speaker 12: other people were saying about guys, and I was and

772
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Speaker 12: I was wrong, you know what I mean, because I

773
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Speaker 12: let it influence me. And I was like, listen, if

774
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Speaker 12: I'm going to get fired as a host or as

775
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Speaker 12: a as an analyst because I stink kind of projecting

776
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 12: who I think will be a good quarterback, it's at

777
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 12: least going.

778
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Speaker 11: To be because of my work and my opinion on it.

779
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 12: And and so you know, So so I say that

780
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Speaker 12: to say that, like it's too early for me to

781
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Speaker 12: do that. I will happily if you will invite you

782
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 12: on for dunk in your question. Now come back and

783
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 12: give you a well thought out opinion on who I

784
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 12: like in this year's draft.

785
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Speaker 3: Thinks, So you like Fernando Mendoza.

786
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Speaker 14: Okay, hey, listen, listen that what I do always like

787
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 14: is time on task, a guy who has played the position,

788
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Speaker 14: like Reps.

789
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Speaker 11: I don't like guys that have seventeen starts.

790
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Speaker 12: I don't like guys that have, you know, two hundred

791
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Speaker 12: and seventy five attempts.

792
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Speaker 11: I like guys that have time on task.

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Speaker 12: And because I don't think that if they if they

794
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 12: don't have it, then you are guessing. Like anybody who

795
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 12: said they knew Trey Lance was going to be a

796
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 12: good pro prospect, they were guessing there wasn't enough evidence

797
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 12: he hadn't played enough football since leaving high school.

798
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Speaker 2: Trubisky same way, I got to have at least thirty

799
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Speaker 2: A friend of mine who's a scout, said I got

800
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Speaker 2: to have at least thirty starts. And he said, you know,

801
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to get bo Nix and Jane Daniels

802
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 2: who have sixty starts, but if I can get anything

803
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Speaker 2: over thirty, now I have the sample size that I

804
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Speaker 2: can rely on.

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Speaker 12: You agree with that, Yeah, listen, parcels commandments are not

806
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Speaker 12: far off from being you know, pretty pretty spot on, right.

807
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Speaker 12: I mean it just like his I think are forty five.

808
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 12: I think that's what you know, or forty or something

809
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 12: like that.

810
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

811
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 12: So yeah, so your friend that's a scout that's saying listen, man, like, yeah,

812
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Speaker 12: give me at least thirty starts and a little of

813
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 12: adversity to fight through before I can figure out at

814
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Speaker 12: all if you're ready to handle this at the highest level.

815
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Speaker 2: And you bring up adversity, and I bring this up

816
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: all the time, but I've got, you know, forty years

817
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Speaker 2: of watching this. Show me the quarter back after he

818
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: throws a pick six, Show me the quarterback after he

819
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: gets sacked. That's what I want to see, because that'll

820
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 2: tell me more than you know. You lead the team

821
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Speaker 2: down and throw a touchdown pass, you're gonna have adversity.

822
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Speaker 2: In college. You may not have that much. Julian saying

823
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Speaker 2: is completing eighty percent of his passes. He's not going

824
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Speaker 2: to complete eighty percent in the NFL or seventy and

825
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Speaker 2: maybe not sixty.

826
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Speaker 3: But then, right, I.

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Speaker 12: Think it's an amazing point. And one of the other

828
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 12: things is you reference college guys. Now, in the past,

829
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Speaker 12: for sure, guys had to go earn it at the

830
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Speaker 12: college level, like you, you might be at a place

831
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Speaker 12: where there's other quarterbacks on the roster, no one's making

832
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 12: more money than the next guy, and you had to

833
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 12: compete and earn the job and had to fight to

834
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Speaker 12: stay on the field. Now in college football, there are

835
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Speaker 12: guys that are playing just because they're getting paid.

836
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Speaker 11: So that idea of having to.

837
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Speaker 12: Play through adversity and prove it all the time like that,

838
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Speaker 12: I think is being stripped a little bit from the

839
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Speaker 12: college and you know, in terms of responding to the adversity,

840
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 12: you know, responding to it in you know, kind of

841
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 12: micro you know, moments in terms of in a game

842
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 12: when it happens, but also even you know, bigger when

843
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 12: the struggle is real and it's weeks at a time

844
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 12: and you're being blamed for things that aren't your fault.

845
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 12: Like all of those things I think are are things

846
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 12: that tell you way more about a quarterback in the

847
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Speaker 12: longevity of him being able to sustain success at the position.

848
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Speaker 2: If the Chiefs make the playoffs, yeah, is there a

849
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Speaker 2: team that you would take over the Chiefs who probably won't.

850
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: They're not going to have home field advantage. But is

851
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Speaker 2: there a team that you would take over them in

852
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: the AFC?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think there are a bunch of teams that

854
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Speaker 12: on their home stadium would be able to be Kansas City.

855
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Speaker 11: I think I think a bunch is probably extreme. Look, if.

856
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 12: I think Buffalo would be able to do it, I

857
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 12: think Denver, as we just saw, would be able to

858
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Speaker 12: have a good plan and be able to hang in

859
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 12: there and do it. And so you know, would the

860
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Speaker 12: Colts be able to do it? I think some certain

861
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 12: things would have to.

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00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 11: Go their way.

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Speaker 12: Look, everyone's going to be a little bit afraid of

864
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Speaker 12: Kansas City if they make it into the tournament and

865
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Speaker 12: are showing up you know, in their building. Sure, but

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Speaker 12: that path is different. You know that Kansas City's defense

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Speaker 12: is very good, but they're.

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Speaker 11: Better at Arrowhead.

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Speaker 12: Then they're going to be on the road in the

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Speaker 12: postseason like that will be a factor. And also this

871
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 12: playing another week, you know they're used to having, you know,

872
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Speaker 12: a first round.

873
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Speaker 11: By playing another week is a thing.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, I really think that Kansas City, you look

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Speaker 12: at their schedule, can they find four more wins?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? I think they can.

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Speaker 12: They get to nine wins maybe they get a tenth,

878
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Speaker 12: like I think they're going to be in the postseason.

879
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 11: They'll scare people, but for sure beatable.

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Speaker 2: What is it about Mahomes If you if somebody didn't

881
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: see him and you.

882
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Speaker 3: Were going to explain his greatness, how would you do? Then?

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Speaker 12: I think the things that the guys at the very

884
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 12: highest level are.

885
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 11: Doing, and Mahomes is definitely in this mix, is they

886
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 11: can play perfectly in the structure of an.

887
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 10: Offense, meaning like the guys that have to play right

888
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 10: on time, ball comes out quickly see it, Hey, you

889
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 10: have a blitz, they adjust the protection, get it picked up,

890
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Speaker 10: or they throw the hot they see the side adjustment,

891
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 10: all that stuff.

892
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 12: But then he's got the ability to outside the design

893
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 12: of the play do things where you go like that

894
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 12: literally goes against everything you would ever coach somebody to do,

895
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 12: because it's like because guys physically don't have the ability

896
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 12: to do it and that type of thing. And then

897
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Speaker 12: I also think that he has I don't know, maybe

898
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 12: the best way to say it is a competitive awareness

899
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 12: in critical situations like got to have it situations to

900
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 12: kind of raise his ability to be better than most

901
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 12: in that environment, Like why does he run better in

902
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 12: the plays in critical moments.

903
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 11: Like why does that happen?

904
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Speaker 12: It's like, well, you know what, because he just gets

905
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 12: it man, like it is on the line at that moment.

906
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 12: And I think, look, I think Josh Allen does that, like,

907
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 12: but Mahomes for sure does that.

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Speaker 2: I'll leave you with this. I'm watching Jalen Hurts. I

909
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 2: don't think he's a good passer, right, but I think

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Speaker 2: he's a great quarterback.

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00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

912
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 2: Like, Hey, I've seen him at his highest level go

913
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: toe to toe with Mahomes. It's just I he's not

914
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: one of those regular season guys where you're gonna go, boy,

915
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: look at those numbers and even last night it's it's

916
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: not really threatening.

917
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: So how do they make him a better passer?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, here's what I'd say about last night.

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Speaker 12: I do think and you know, this is another one

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00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 12: of those where it's like it can be an incomplete evaluation.

921
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 12: I thought golf looked like pretty bad last night. I

922
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 12: think the conditions there, you know, which don't always appear

923
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Speaker 12: on television. Maybe we're a little rough, So I think

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00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 12: there's an element of that. But to your point, I

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00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 12: think he had under one hundred yards passing through three quarters,

926
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Speaker 12: So you know, how do you make him a better

927
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 12: pass I think you really try to hone in on

928
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Speaker 12: the things that he does extremely well, which you know,

929
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Speaker 12: I think there are certain kind of you know, concept

930
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 12: combinations that they've been really successful with in the past,

931
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 12: pairing certain runs with the pass where it defines the

932
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 12: look easily, you know, for him. But I think it's

933
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 12: I think it's really diving into that stuff. The other

934
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Speaker 12: thing that I think has happened, and it's a little

935
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Speaker 12: bit of a double edged short. I think running a

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Speaker 12: quarterback and expecting him to be really accurate is asking

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Speaker 12: guys to do something that's nearly impossible.

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Speaker 11: Right. It's the foul shooter who like is there's good.

939
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 12: When he's super tired, right when he's not for quarterbacks

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00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 12: at the same time, with I think the type of

941
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 12: football player he is, so yes, it's a quarterback, but

942
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Speaker 12: I think also the type of football.

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Speaker 11: Player is I think he's a little bit better when

944
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Speaker 11: he runs.

945
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Speaker 12: I just think that the threat of him as a

946
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 12: runner I think clears things up as a passer, and

947
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Speaker 12: they just haven't been running him, which I don't think

948
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Speaker 12: is a bad plan in the regular season, but I

949
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Speaker 12: do think they need to run him in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations on your victory.

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Speaker 11: Hey, well, I just would say thank you because you're

952
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Speaker 11: the only one that's.

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Speaker 12: Ever offered something like that too me, So I appreciate

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Speaker 12: that very much.

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Speaker 11: That doesn't happen.

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Speaker 3: Thank you too, all right, thank you. Tim hasselbacky ESPNNFL

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Speaker 3: college football analyst,