WEBVTT - Exclusive: Bachelor in Paradise Unplugged Part 2 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:06.000 Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Wills 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:09.920 Adams and this is part two of Bachelor and Paradise Unplugged. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:12.959 We're gonna be jumping right back in where we left off. 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.120 You can't talk about Paradise without talking about the Parliament 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:21.520 of Paradise. Sean, where the hell did this come from? 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.640 Tell us the birth story of the Parliament of Paradise. 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.240 Yeah, I saw him getting paid for the T shirts 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.120 they're making on this idea, so the collecting checks afterwards. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.199 But yeah, no, I actually was like really hoping it 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.319 would turn into Survivor. Apparently no one else ever heard 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.640 of that game before. For me, it was like, at 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.760 this point, like what people have to understand is the 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:42.559 Parliament of Paradise. 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:43.440 There was maybe four or. 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:45.680 Five days lofts of filming when that happened, Like we 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.360 were all getting sent home at a rapid pace. I 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.480 looked around the room and I was like, don't really 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:50.600 have many friends from. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.680 My season here. I came in last as the guys. 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:53.479 I didn't have a roommate. 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.360 I'm like thinking about when we're voting off people, like 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.720 we're fucked, Like we're literally going home in two days. 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:00.560 So if you can try to make some work before 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.560 and you try to give security to people, and obviously flopped. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.360 No one really saw my vision, but I will say 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.840 I fucking I called everything the jury coming back. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:09.840 I had it all mapped out. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.160 I was like Charlie Day, like the Pepe Sylvia and 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:13.160 the male scene. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:14.000 Like connecting the docs. 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.000 So yeah, it didn't work out, but hey, like if 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:19.520 I didn't do that, like I would have been sent 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.120 home two days later anyway, Like you know, I just 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.160 sat there and played the game like everyone else would 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:23.880 have been gone. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.839 Wait, can I just add one thing? When you sat 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.960 down with Keith and me and you said like I 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.800 was wondering what the hell had happened to you? 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:35.240 Like you just went off on this thing. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:36.679 What did I say specifically? 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:40.119 And then you said to Keith and me like we 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:44.520 are the strongest relationship here, Oh okay, And I was 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.720 wait and I said, I said, no, you're not. And yeah, 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:54.320 like you said he said, you said to me, we 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.720 are the strongest relationship. And I looked you straight and said, no, 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:58.080 you're not. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.160 It's crazy or not, we're the strong relationship. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:01.280 Not. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:07.840 I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about. No, 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:10.520 here's the thing, and this is a big part of 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.480 the entire season. Everyone's judging each other's relationships. I then 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.280 mention of Brian and Prisa, Alicia, myself, everyone's relationships. You're 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.840 not there in the moments. Everyone's having this idea of 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:23.200 people's relationships, and I thought it was really ridiculous for 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.919 people to put themselves in those conversations with them at night, 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.000 when we're sleeping together, when they're sharing the moments. So 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.280 like when you're voting off the strong relationship, we don't 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:31.160 really know because we're not. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.760 Wait, I love you to pieces, but I think everybody 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:41.280 here would acknowledge that Jess and Spencer, who, by the way, 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:41.880 are engaged. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.480 In case you missed that detail, I'm seeing the. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:51.080 Strongest relationship here now. I love Andrew and Alex and 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:55.200 they're strong, and Bailey they're strong. And Keith and I, 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.079 by the way, are announcing our engagement here tonight. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:05.880 Yeah, a strong relationship. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:11.360 What make out all. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:12.880 The friends kiss? 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:26.320 Right, Spicy, I do have one. 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.160 You said it wasn't about the money, that it's about love, 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:33.800 but you did go ahead and vote off. 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:35.400 Me. 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.600 Sorry, I'm just saying, English Major, I think you're wrong. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:42.160 On that one too. 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:42.600 I am not. 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.640 It is a direct object, it is not a subject. Right, 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.720 we can discuss that later. I'm right, trust me, sum 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:51.040 college graduate. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:51.600 I am right. 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:52.080 Okay. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.720 I voted honestly. 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.200 I voted you guys for. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:03:59.960 And I will tell you not to stay on the show. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.400 I will tell you why I voted you off. We 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:04.440 voted you off. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:13.120 I voted you. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:15.160 Because we looked around, and we looked to see who 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:20.839 had the strongest relationships, and and Parisa particularly was very 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:26.240 unhappy and and so stressed about your relationship. And what 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:31.359 I said to Parisa was, you two need to go 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:36.640 home and figure out whether this is something that can work, 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.040 because this is causing you stress and you're not happy. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:41.600 And you know what Parsa said to me. 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.200 You're right, Yes, we had this conversation. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.279 We had this conversation. So I stand by my decision. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.120 Yeah, you knew I was ready to go. 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:53.839 I don't know how many couples came up to me. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.440 You know, voting is getting really happy. They go, we've 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.000 got the strongest relationship here. You told me this. You 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.680 told me this. I don't I didn't talk to Jeremy. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.320 I give you a hard time, but you know, we 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.599 didn't bond until the very end, very very end, and 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:15.599 I voted you off then too. But it was tough voting, 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.039 you know, when you talk about again, I like Bachter 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.840 in Paradise, and I think it's about love. And I 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:24.039 even in the stabbing one, I put a stab, I 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.479 put a dagger in my own back saying you didn't 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.720 deserve to be here and we didn't deserve to be here. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.600 But when it comes to voting, I had to vote 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.240 off somebody and I wasn't and I wasn't ready to go. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.520 I wanted to hopefully help the people that had strong 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:37.760 relationships continue on. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:38.800 That was your goal. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.200 But you guys did vote for platonic couples to stay 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:43.839 over romantic couples that were involved. 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.400 And that's the bone I'm trying to pay. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:53.560 This is a fair question. You guys weren't in a relationship. 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:57.599 You were in friendship and you were still able. You 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:02.719 can say that you were wanting love to win, but 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.400 then voting differently, and I think that's a fair question. 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.240 That's a fair question. The one. It's what Alicia just said. 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.400 I did vote people out in kept Jonathan and Leigh instead, 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.720 but probably if I look back on it, I would 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:15.839 do things differently, maybe, but. 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.320 From I did it. 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.119 I did it in the moment and when I listened 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:27.480 to everybody here, even the arguments that we've had. I 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.359 just want you guys to know you're twenty and thirty 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.200 years old and you're learning life still. I mean, I'm 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.880 still learning at sixty three years old. I still learn 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.880 things every single I I've learned stuff from all of 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.640 you on this show. And you'll always grow and you 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.240 will always learn about the individuals around you and your 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.839 friendships and everything. And so I'm still learning about myself 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:46.279 at times. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:47.440 Okay, Okay, we get it. 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:53.359 We wanted to be the Golden bachelorsourcette. 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:55.000 Sure, Okay. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:07:00.080 I really just from reflecting on my conversations with Kathy, 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.760 I really think with how she voted with voting us off, 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.159 I think it honestly came from a really good place, 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:12.320 because I mean, I was very vocal about our relationship 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:13.800 and I would go to her all the time and 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.160 I just kept saying, like, I'm miserable being in this environment, 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:21.320 and I love the challenges because I thought it really 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.680 helped me get to know Brian Moore, and it really 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:29.800 helped shed a lot of layers. However, the environment everything 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.800 shifted when it became a game show, and it was 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.520 I was spiraling every day, I mean. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.000 And I didn't want you to suffer that pain anymore. 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.640 I'm a mom and I care her, And she was 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:46.640 so unhappy, and I wanted her to go home and 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.640 for Brian and pretyces see if they could make it 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.080 work outside of this, and because it was hurting me 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.960 to see her so unhappy, and I. 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.080 Was vocal about saying like, oh, you know what might make. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.480 Her happy two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.560 You would think I was voting that money. 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.480 Yeah, I told her, I signed up for the old 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:06.520 paradise of you know. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:09.440 With me, so I sent her. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.320 I will say, though, like we want to put this 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:16.440 like strongest couple, you know, title on everybody, But I 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.440 always saw us all be like very individual couples, even 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.520 the platonic ones. It's hard to like put a voting 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.600 criteria based on what you determine us strong, whether it's 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.360 time compatibility or whatever. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:28.640 You think. 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:32.120 It's all subjective, right, So I always said that the 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.320 love that was grown between the couples were all just 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.800 like individualized love. And I think really that it's strong 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.720 in its own way. I don't think it's fair to 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:42.720 say that one couple is stronger than another. 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:47.040 And relationships develop at different stages and different levels. I 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:53.079 really learned that through Andrew and Alex right, Like they 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.920 came in later and it was new love, but it 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:58.199 was real love, and it was. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:08:59.680 Like really beautiful to see. 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.199 But you're so locked in and you're so focused on it. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:06.240 But you know, some people committed early, some other people 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.559 had to feel it out, like where our worlds are 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.880 so so different and our needs are so so different, 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:16.280 so you know, it's like I think a lot of 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:20.440 times it's like did you want to? I think also too, 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.000 like some of us might have been envious of what 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.280 other people had, not like in a way of like 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:30.200 we're obsessing about it, but we all want those things right, 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.839 So if there's a hierarchy, it could have been placed 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:39.280 by that. But I think like everyone has relationships that 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.520 develop at different stages, and no one can say what's 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.959 stronger what, because it's not about like how you start, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.600 it's how you finish. And at the end of the day, 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.160 if you're happy and you find your person, nothing else matters. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:53.360 Well, listen, it's all relative. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.199 And also, no one in Batrination has done a show 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.880 like this, so the rules of of like, well, who's 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.240 in the strongest relationship? That no one, There was no 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.640 precedent for that. So I think that for all the 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.200 viewers out there, there needs to be a little bit 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:07.640 of grace. 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:09.079 But I'd like to go back to the Parliament of. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:13.520 Paradise because I think this was a name you can't 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:14.000 like your own. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:19.240 You can't give yourself your own nickname, you know, the 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:20.160 Parliament of Paradise. 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.000 Well, the funny thing was like we were spit on 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.520 that idea and there's probably gonna cup. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:24.920 Like in the interview, we're like, what should we call it? 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.439 I'm like, man, I don't know, like Jerry appears, I 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.800 don't know, Parliament of Paradise, and it stuck and here 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:30.839 we are now okay. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.280 I have a fan question for Alicia. How did it 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.880 feel to walk in and your friends were talking about 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:38.920 sending you in Shaun home? 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.679 It was like that a knife in my gut. That's 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.439 truly the closest comparison. 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:45.000 I'd imagine. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:45.600 It felt like. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.280 I was caught off guard at first, and I would 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.959 say my first thoughts were I must be misinterpreting this, 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.880 and then Alex, you were really forthcoming with, like, you know, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.959 let's address the elephant in the room. We were having 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.280 this conversation, and I feel like we squashed. 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:01.640 It between the women. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.360 We were mature enough to be able to come together 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.920 as not only just friends, but as individuals and grown 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.360 women and look at each other in the eyes and say, 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.280 you know how we're feeling. And to this day, I 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.440 believe Bailey and I believe Alex that they did have 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:17.840 my back and they were good friends. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.800 And I think it's a very very. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.840 Difficult position to be in, so I think everybody does 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.200 deserve a little bit of grace. However, I think, you know, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:31.240 going back to the strongest couples, Sean, obviously we were 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:32.199 not the strongest couple. 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:33.439 I think we can all agree on that. 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.600 However, we were a real couple and there was a 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:39.439 real romance there. So I do feel jaded for anybody 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.160 who did decide to vote us off before platonic couples, 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:43.040 and that I'll stand by. 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:44.000 One thing that I. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.280 Think a lot of the viewers were wondering is how 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:51.320 align were you guys with the plan that Sean had 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.720 laid out for the Parliament to paradise because it seems 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:54.839 like you maybe weren't so. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:55.520 Much on board. 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.280 I think so for me, the plan that was always 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.600 discussed was, you key the couples that were there for love. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:02.480 We're here for love. 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:06.280 That's what we all entered into this endeavor on, and 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.360 so for me, that was the way we were going 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.280 to proceed until it got to the inevitable point that 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.200 we were voting for our friends. And then at that point, honestly, 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.640 for me, I think it was cross that bridge when 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:21.760 you get there. Sean and I multiply multiple times voted 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.560 very differently. There's times that he voted for Brian and 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.840 Priesa to go, and that's my girlfriend and her guy, 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.120 So I'm not going to do that. 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.640 And I think that's really what a strong. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.880 Couple is is you can respect each other's differences and 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.560 stand by them. I had never felt pressured to vote 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.560 the way that he did, and I don't think I 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:43.199 placed that same kind of pressure on him, And I think, yeah, 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.360 we were both on the same page of keeping everybody 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.120 who's there in a relationship up until the point that 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:50.520 you are going to have to send people home. 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:55.160 You guys had a pretty crazy slash iconic exit of Paradise. 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.319 Anything that you would have changed or done differently, Noah. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.280 But also, like you know, that's why I love Sean. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.880 He's got he speaks his mind, he speaks his truth, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:07.040 and I think that we both that resonates with one another. 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.240 So at the same time, hindsight, yeah, twenty twenty, we'd 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.920 all probably do something a little bit differently, but I 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.400 don't regret it. I think I've seen personalities come out 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.760 from the show. I've learned everything I need to know 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.200 about these people, and I think I'm moving on with 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:25.240 some friendships that will continue and some that are probably 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:26.600 going to fizzle out. 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.360 And that's just the reality of life. Not everyone's going to, you. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.360 Know, be each other's best friends, and that's okay. I 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.959 think we've got to stop projecting hate on one another 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.480 for just having differences, because I think we've all received 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.200 that and there's truly no one who's a bad person 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.280 on this cast, who has mal intentions. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.120 I think it's just differences of opinions. 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.160 That's a perfect opportunity to get in to my next question, 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:48.560 which is a fan question. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:49.800 Who specifically were. 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.880 You talking about during your dramatic exit speech from Paradise. 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.839 Bailey and Alex specifically, I at that point I thought 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:58.760 that they'd both voted me off because I thought they 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.360 both voted the same way their partners, which at that point, 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.920 you know, everyone was kind of saying, we're voting off Sean, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:05.880 but we weren't. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:06.800 We're voting on the women. 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.200 So that did mean that you were putting my holding 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.840 up my name and putting me, you know, to be 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.800 going home. So at that point I felt like, wow, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.280 I can't trust anyone. The guy who I'm here a 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:21.440 wish is going behind my back and like propaganda, having 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.640 these campaigns that he's telling me he's not gonna do. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.200 And at the same time, the two girls who I 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.120 felt closest to were also I walked into a room 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:30.880 and for the first time I heard that I was 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:34.120 going home that night. So specifically that night, I was 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.200 talking about Bailey and Alex and I wanted to see 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.360 how the rest of the season played out and see 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:39.240 how everybody voted. 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:40.760 And we've spoken since. 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:42.440 And I think it's like what you said you mentioned 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.560 like I think in a relationship it's you can accept 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.360 each other's differences and many times I would have to 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.120 ever ever, and a lot of it was like I 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.040 can't vote my girlfriend's off. So he would be like, 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:53.440 you know, we're gonna go, I'm gonna go with this, 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.040 and I just couldn't do it. So and we've talked, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.840 yeah obviously, but so yeah, of course it was like 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.600 a shock to me because I thought we had you know, 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.200 you could have trusted me. But I also understand that 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:03.600 if you walk in a room and you hear us 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:04.320 talk about. 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:08.040 Its yeah, yeah, Hey, Bachelor Nation, I got a date 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.440 card for you. You're invited on the ultimate group day 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.200 join me and our newly engaged couple here Jess and Spencer, Jesse, 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.360 Hannah and so many more for the first ever Bachelor 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.160 Nation vacation at sea. You won't want to miss the 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:25.840 onboard cocktail parties that I'll be hosting, hot tubs, panels, screenings, 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.400 and events. It's all at sea too. Sign up to 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.400 be among the first to book your cabin at Bachelor 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.200 Nation Vacation at c dot com. 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:44.720 We'll see you there. It seems like you want to 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:45.320 say something. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:46.160 Kat Oh. 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.320 I mean, well, Alicia, you feel the most comfortable speaking 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.720 about someone else's experience, So why don't you go ahead. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.160 And take your away? Would you want me to speak 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:53.880 on sure. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.800 I guess anything that you feel comfortable speaking on, since 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:57.560 you've already. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.040 Had asked me a question, I'll answer. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:00.400 I just thought that, and it was. 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.400 Like kind of hypocritical for you to speak on like 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.360 speaking negatively or projection or anything, when you took it 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:11.520 upon yourself to speak so publicly about someone else's situation 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:13.480 without having a conversation. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:13.760 With me at all. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:15.840 We did have conversations, Kat. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.160 I don't think any question they're actually no. I know 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.160 for a fact there was no questions. There was no 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.720 direct outreach nothing, So. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.920 I will say our first interaction wasn't please. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:31.120 I was not done. There was no outreach post filming. 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:35.800 During filming, I guess when things were found or discussed, right, 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.800 But even post filming, it just felt like I was 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:41.760 extremely hurt. So I'm sorry if I'm coming out like 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.040 I'm having side conversations. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.880 It's just like taking me aback by like. 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:50.120 Things like that being said, when you felt so comfortable 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:53.560 speaking about a situation, not only a situation, but my character, 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:58.240 someone else's situation without having a conversation with me first, 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.200 with or at least like for me feeling like you 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.800 got took the time to get to know me, and 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.720 so I was just really disappointed. And it really took 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.360 me by surprise to see the things that were said 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.840 in an interview to say any of that. And you're 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.480 allowed to feel the way you feel. I just wish 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.960 that a conversation has had between me prior. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:17.760 I hear you, and I think your feelings are so valid. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.480 I will say my first interaction with you cat night one, 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.119 coming in, you asked me, I don't know if you 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.639 remember this, to take a picture of the group of women. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.040 And you turned to me and you passed me the 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:29.840 camera and you asked me to take a picture of everyone. 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.040 That's not a girl's girl. That's not a nice thing 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.560 to do. You then proceeded to set up the rose ceremony. Jess, 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:37.600 you were also involved in this, and you're sitting there going, 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.720 my man went touch you with the ten foot pole. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:41.840 This is my first night in Like, that's just. 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.760 Wait what when you were talking about you right behind me, 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:45.480 we were not talking. 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.280 Okay, you don't think that that would make somebody who's 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.560 just come into paradise though, Like ten date to the. 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:53.159 Last person in a little bit you think. Yeah, you 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:53.679 guys were. 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.200 Never because you guys were never warm. You never came 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.680 into Paris or me and Priessa's room. We were never 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:03.720 included in any of the girls. 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.480 Get ready with you guys, Like, I'm sorry, should we 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:06.080 talk about that? 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:06.560 Please? 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:06.920 Wait? 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.320 Wait, I'm sorry that that was your experience, Like I 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.800 de never meant to like make you feel excluded at all, 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.960 And if I did, I do that by accident a lot, 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.800 Like I'm in my own world and so that was 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.080 never my intention was to ever make you feel excluded. 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:20.879 So I can see why it made you feel that way. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.359 But also I was trying to be your friend, like 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.640 the night of the parlor, like him crashing out, like 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.080 you were emotional and I came. 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:30.000