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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Wills

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Speaker 1: Adams and this is part two of Bachelor and Paradise Unplugged.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be jumping right back in where we left off.

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Speaker 1: You can't talk about Paradise without talking about the Parliament

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Speaker 1: of Paradise. Sean, where the hell did this come from?

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Speaker 1: Tell us the birth story of the Parliament of Paradise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw him getting paid for the T shirts

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Speaker 2: they're making on this idea, so the collecting checks afterwards.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I actually was like really hoping it

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Speaker 2: would turn into Survivor. Apparently no one else ever heard

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Speaker 2: of that game before. For me, it was like, at

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Speaker 2: this point, like what people have to understand is the

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Speaker 2: Parliament of Paradise.

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Speaker 3: There was maybe four or.

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Speaker 2: Five days lofts of filming when that happened, Like we

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Speaker 2: were all getting sent home at a rapid pace. I

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Speaker 2: looked around the room and I was like, don't really

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Speaker 2: have many friends from.

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Speaker 3: My season here. I came in last as the guys.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have a roommate.

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Speaker 2: I'm like thinking about when we're voting off people, like

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Speaker 2: we're fucked, Like we're literally going home in two days.

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Speaker 2: So if you can try to make some work before

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Speaker 2: and you try to give security to people, and obviously flopped.

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Speaker 2: No one really saw my vision, but I will say

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Speaker 2: I fucking I called everything the jury coming back.

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Speaker 3: I had it all mapped out.

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Speaker 2: I was like Charlie Day, like the Pepe Sylvia and

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Speaker 2: the male scene.

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Speaker 3: Like connecting the docs.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it didn't work out, but hey, like if

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Speaker 2: I didn't do that, like I would have been sent

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Speaker 2: home two days later anyway, Like you know, I just

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Speaker 2: sat there and played the game like everyone else would

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Speaker 2: have been gone.

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Speaker 4: Wait, can I just add one thing? When you sat

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Speaker 4: down with Keith and me and you said like I

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Speaker 4: was wondering what the hell had happened to you?

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Speaker 5: Like you just went off on this thing.

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Speaker 3: What did I say specifically?

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Speaker 4: And then you said to Keith and me like we

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Speaker 4: are the strongest relationship here, Oh okay, And I was

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Speaker 4: wait and I said, I said, no, you're not. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: like you said he said, you said to me, we

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Speaker 4: are the strongest relationship. And I looked you straight and said, no,

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Speaker 4: you're not.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy or not, we're the strong relationship.

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Speaker 6: Not.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about. No,

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Speaker 2: here's the thing, and this is a big part of

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Speaker 2: the entire season. Everyone's judging each other's relationships. I then

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Speaker 2: mention of Brian and Prisa, Alicia, myself, everyone's relationships. You're

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Speaker 2: not there in the moments. Everyone's having this idea of

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Speaker 2: people's relationships, and I thought it was really ridiculous for

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Speaker 2: people to put themselves in those conversations with them at night,

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Speaker 2: when we're sleeping together, when they're sharing the moments. So

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Speaker 2: like when you're voting off the strong relationship, we don't

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Speaker 2: really know because we're not.

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Speaker 4: Wait, I love you to pieces, but I think everybody

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Speaker 4: here would acknowledge that Jess and Spencer, who, by the way,

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Speaker 4: are engaged.

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Speaker 5: In case you missed that detail, I'm seeing the.

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Speaker 4: Strongest relationship here now. I love Andrew and Alex and

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Speaker 4: they're strong, and Bailey they're strong. And Keith and I,

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Speaker 4: by the way, are announcing our engagement here tonight.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a strong relationship.

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Speaker 8: What make out all.

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Speaker 6: The friends kiss?

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Speaker 8: Right, Spicy, I do have one.

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Speaker 9: You said it wasn't about the money, that it's about love,

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Speaker 9: but you did go ahead and vote off.

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Speaker 10: Me.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm just saying, English Major, I think you're wrong.

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Speaker 9: On that one too.

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Speaker 8: I am not.

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Speaker 4: It is a direct object, it is not a subject. Right,

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Speaker 4: we can discuss that later. I'm right, trust me, sum

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Speaker 4: college graduate.

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Speaker 5: I am right.

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Speaker 8: Okay.

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Speaker 5: I voted honestly.

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Speaker 4: I voted you guys for.

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Speaker 5: And I will tell you not to stay on the show.

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Speaker 5: I will tell you why I voted you off. We

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Speaker 5: voted you off.

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Speaker 8: I voted you.

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Speaker 4: Because we looked around, and we looked to see who

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Speaker 4: had the strongest relationships, and and Parisa particularly was very

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Speaker 4: unhappy and and so stressed about your relationship. And what

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Speaker 4: I said to Parisa was, you two need to go

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Speaker 4: home and figure out whether this is something that can work,

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Speaker 4: because this is causing you stress and you're not happy.

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Speaker 4: And you know what Parsa said to me.

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Speaker 11: You're right, Yes, we had this conversation.

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Speaker 5: We had this conversation. So I stand by my decision.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you knew I was ready to go.

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Speaker 12: I don't know how many couples came up to me.

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Speaker 12: You know, voting is getting really happy. They go, we've

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Speaker 12: got the strongest relationship here. You told me this. You

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Speaker 12: told me this. I don't I didn't talk to Jeremy.

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Speaker 12: I give you a hard time, but you know, we

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Speaker 12: didn't bond until the very end, very very end, and

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Speaker 12: I voted you off then too. But it was tough voting,

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Speaker 12: you know, when you talk about again, I like Bachter

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Speaker 12: in Paradise, and I think it's about love. And I

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Speaker 12: even in the stabbing one, I put a stab, I

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Speaker 12: put a dagger in my own back saying you didn't

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Speaker 12: deserve to be here and we didn't deserve to be here.

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Speaker 12: But when it comes to voting, I had to vote

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Speaker 12: off somebody and I wasn't and I wasn't ready to go.

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Speaker 12: I wanted to hopefully help the people that had strong

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Speaker 12: relationships continue on.

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Speaker 8: That was your goal.

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Speaker 13: But you guys did vote for platonic couples to stay

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Speaker 13: over romantic couples that were involved.

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Speaker 6: And that's the bone I'm trying to pay.

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Speaker 14: This is a fair question. You guys weren't in a relationship.

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Speaker 14: You were in friendship and you were still able. You

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Speaker 14: can say that you were wanting love to win, but

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Speaker 14: then voting differently, and I think that's a fair question.

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Speaker 12: That's a fair question. The one. It's what Alicia just said.

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Speaker 12: I did vote people out in kept Jonathan and Leigh instead,

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Speaker 12: but probably if I look back on it, I would

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Speaker 12: do things differently, maybe, but.

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Speaker 15: From I did it.

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Speaker 12: I did it in the moment and when I listened

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Speaker 12: to everybody here, even the arguments that we've had. I

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Speaker 12: just want you guys to know you're twenty and thirty

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Speaker 12: years old and you're learning life still. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 12: still learning at sixty three years old. I still learn

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Speaker 12: things every single I I've learned stuff from all of

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Speaker 12: you on this show. And you'll always grow and you

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Speaker 12: will always learn about the individuals around you and your

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Speaker 12: friendships and everything. And so I'm still learning about myself

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Speaker 12: at times.

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Speaker 14: Okay, Okay, we get it.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to be the Golden bachelorsourcette.

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Speaker 6: Sure, Okay.

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Speaker 11: I really just from reflecting on my conversations with Kathy,

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Speaker 11: I really think with how she voted with voting us off,

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Speaker 11: I think it honestly came from a really good place,

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Speaker 11: because I mean, I was very vocal about our relationship

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Speaker 11: and I would go to her all the time and

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Speaker 11: I just kept saying, like, I'm miserable being in this environment,

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Speaker 11: and I love the challenges because I thought it really

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Speaker 11: helped me get to know Brian Moore, and it really

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Speaker 11: helped shed a lot of layers. However, the environment everything

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Speaker 11: shifted when it became a game show, and it was

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Speaker 11: I was spiraling every day, I mean.

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Speaker 4: And I didn't want you to suffer that pain anymore.

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Speaker 4: I'm a mom and I care her, And she was

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Speaker 4: so unhappy, and I wanted her to go home and

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Speaker 4: for Brian and pretyces see if they could make it

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Speaker 4: work outside of this, and because it was hurting me

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Speaker 4: to see her so unhappy, and I.

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Speaker 11: Was vocal about saying like, oh, you know what might make.

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Speaker 14: Her happy two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 10: You would think I was voting that money.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I told her, I signed up for the old

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Speaker 11: paradise of you know.

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Speaker 5: With me, so I sent her.

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Speaker 16: I will say, though, like we want to put this

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Speaker 16: like strongest couple, you know, title on everybody, But I

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Speaker 16: always saw us all be like very individual couples, even

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Speaker 16: the platonic ones. It's hard to like put a voting

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Speaker 16: criteria based on what you determine us strong, whether it's

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Speaker 16: time compatibility or whatever.

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Speaker 17: You think.

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Speaker 16: It's all subjective, right, So I always said that the

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Speaker 16: love that was grown between the couples were all just

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Speaker 16: like individualized love. And I think really that it's strong

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Speaker 16: in its own way. I don't think it's fair to

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Speaker 16: say that one couple is stronger than another.

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Speaker 18: And relationships develop at different stages and different levels. I

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Speaker 18: really learned that through Andrew and Alex right, Like they

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Speaker 18: came in later and it was new love, but it

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Speaker 18: was real love, and it was.

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Speaker 10: Like really beautiful to see.

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Speaker 18: But you're so locked in and you're so focused on it.

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Speaker 18: But you know, some people committed early, some other people

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Speaker 18: had to feel it out, like where our worlds are

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Speaker 18: so so different and our needs are so so different,

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Speaker 18: so you know, it's like I think a lot of

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Speaker 18: times it's like did you want to? I think also too,

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Speaker 18: like some of us might have been envious of what

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Speaker 18: other people had, not like in a way of like

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Speaker 18: we're obsessing about it, but we all want those things right,

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Speaker 18: So if there's a hierarchy, it could have been placed

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Speaker 18: develop at different stages, and no one can say what's

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Speaker 18: stronger what, because it's not about like how you start,

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Speaker 18: it's how you finish. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 18: if you're happy and you find your person, nothing else matters.

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Speaker 14: Well, listen, it's all relative.

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Speaker 1: And also, no one in Batrination has done a show

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Speaker 1: like this, so the rules of of like, well, who's

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Speaker 1: in the strongest relationship? That no one, There was no

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Speaker 1: precedent for that. So I think that for all the

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Speaker 1: of grace.

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Speaker 14: But I'd like to go back to the Parliament of.

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Speaker 3: Paradise because I think this was a name you can't

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Speaker 3: like your own.

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Speaker 1: You can't give yourself your own nickname, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Parliament of Paradise.

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Speaker 2: Well, the funny thing was like we were spit on

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Speaker 2: that idea and there's probably gonna cup.

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Speaker 3: Like in the interview, we're like, what should we call it?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I don't know, like Jerry appears, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, Parliament of Paradise, and it stuck and here

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Speaker 2: we are now okay.

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Speaker 1: I have a fan question for Alicia. How did it

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Speaker 1: feel to walk in and your friends were talking about

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Speaker 1: sending you in Shaun home?

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Speaker 13: It was like that a knife in my gut. That's

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Speaker 13: truly the closest comparison.

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Speaker 10: I'd imagine.

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Speaker 17: It felt like.

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Speaker 13: I was caught off guard at first, and I would

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Speaker 13: say my first thoughts were I must be misinterpreting this,

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Speaker 13: and then Alex, you were really forthcoming with, like, you know,

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Speaker 13: let's address the elephant in the room. We were having

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Speaker 13: this conversation, and I feel like we squashed.

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Speaker 14: Much on board.

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Speaker 13: I think so for me, the plan that was always

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Speaker 13: That's what we all entered into this endeavor on, and

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Speaker 1: You guys had a pretty crazy slash iconic exit of Paradise.

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Speaker 1: Anything that you would have changed or done differently, Noah.

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Speaker 10: But also, like you know, that's why I love Sean.

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Speaker 13: He's got he speaks his mind, he speaks his truth,

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Speaker 10: And that's just the reality of life. Not everyone's going to, you.

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Speaker 13: Know, be each other's best friends, and that's okay. I

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Speaker 10: I think it's just differences of opinions.

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Speaker 1: That's a perfect opportunity to get in to my next question,

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Speaker 1: which is a fan question.

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Speaker 14: Who specifically were.

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Speaker 1: You talking about during your dramatic exit speech from Paradise.

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Speaker 13: Bailey and Alex specifically, I at that point I thought

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Speaker 10: We're voting on the women.

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Speaker 13: So that did mean that you were putting my holding

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Speaker 13: And at the same time, the two girls who I

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Speaker 10: And we've spoken since.

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Speaker 19: And I think it's like what you said you mentioned

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Speaker 19: like I think in a relationship it's you can accept

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Speaker 19: each other's differences and many times I would have to

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Speaker 19: can't vote my girlfriend's off. So he would be like,

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Speaker 19: and I just couldn't do it. So and we've talked,

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Speaker 14: We'll see you there. It seems like you want to

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Speaker 17: Kat Oh.

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Speaker 16: I mean, well, Alicia, you feel the most comfortable speaking

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Speaker 16: about someone else's experience, So why don't you go ahead.

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Speaker 10: And take your away? Would you want me to speak

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Speaker 10: on sure.

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Speaker 16: I guess anything that you feel comfortable speaking on, since

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Speaker 16: you've already.

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Speaker 10: Had asked me a question, I'll answer.

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Speaker 17: I just thought that, and it was.

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Speaker 16: Like kind of hypocritical for you to speak on like

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Speaker 16: without having a conversation.

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Speaker 17: With me at all.

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Speaker 10: We did have conversations, Kat.

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Speaker 16: I don't think any question they're actually no. I know

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Speaker 16: for a fact there was no questions. There was no

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Speaker 10: I will say our first interaction wasn't please.

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Speaker 16: I was not done. There was no outreach post filming.

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Speaker 16: During filming, I guess when things were found or discussed, right,

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Speaker 16: But even post filming, it just felt like I was

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Speaker 16: extremely hurt. So I'm sorry if I'm coming out like

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Speaker 16: I'm having side conversations.

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Speaker 17: It's just like taking me aback by like.

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Speaker 16: Things like that being said, when you felt so comfortable

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Speaker 16: someone else's situation without having a conversation with me first,

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Speaker 16: with or at least like for me feeling like you

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Speaker 16: so I was just really disappointed. And it really took

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Speaker 16: in an interview to say any of that. And you're

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Speaker 10: I hear you, and I think your feelings are so valid.

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Speaker 13: I will say my first interaction with you cat night one,

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Speaker 13: coming in, you asked me, I don't know if you

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Speaker 13: remember this, to take a picture of the group of women.

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Speaker 13: And you turned to me and you passed me the

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Speaker 10: That's not a girl's girl. That's not a nice thing

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Speaker 10: to do. You then proceeded to set up the rose ceremony. Jess,

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Speaker 10: you were also involved in this, and you're sitting there going,

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Speaker 10: my man went touch you with the ten foot pole.

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Speaker 10: This is my first night in Like, that's just.

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Speaker 16: Wait what when you were talking about you right behind me,

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Speaker 16: we were not talking.

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Speaker 13: Okay, you don't think that that would make somebody who's

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Speaker 10: Last person in a little bit you think. Yeah, you

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Speaker 13: Never because you guys were never warm. You never came

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Speaker 16: Get ready with you guys, Like, I'm sorry, should we

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Speaker 10: Please?

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Speaker 7: Wait?

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Speaker 16: Wait, I'm sorry that that was your experience, Like I

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Speaker 16: de never meant to like make you feel excluded at all,

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Speaker 16: And if I did, I do that by accident a lot,

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Speaker 16: Like I'm in my own world and so that was

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Speaker 16: So I can see why it made you feel that way.

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Speaker 16: But also I was trying to be your friend, like

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Speaker 17: Up to you to check on you.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, And I think that's where like the biggest problem

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Speaker 10: It was the night that I'm.

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Speaker 13: Going it just felt very artificial, and to be completely honest,

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Speaker 13: like I had ten days of getting to know Sean,

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Speaker 13: I went to bed every single night in Sean's bed,

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Speaker 13: hearing how good of a person you are, how nice

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Speaker 16: Oh yeah, you walked in and already hated me, So.

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Speaker 10: Why would I already hate you?

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Speaker 16: Haven't before I didn't know who you were exactly, and

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Speaker 16: any conversation. You haven't seen anything. You haven't even tried

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Speaker 16: to see anything.

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Speaker 10: So how would you feel?

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Speaker 13: Let me ask you this, if a polygraph test was

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Speaker 13: to be administered, how would you feel? Take? Yeah, take

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Speaker 16: You're why does it bother you so much?

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Speaker 10: It doesn't.

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Speaker 17: It clearly does. Like I have affected you.

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Speaker 13: I've never experience and I've done nothing to come at you, Han,

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Speaker 13: But when you're.

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Speaker 10: Telling me that I'm stand for myself you're not a

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Speaker 10: nice person. We'll help people know that. The way you

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Speaker 16: Anybody was so since the cast, you want to speak

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Speaker 16: let them speak for themselves for once. I'm sorry that

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Speaker 16: that is the experience that you had. I I'm not

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Speaker 16: going to just credit your opinion. You can feel however

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Speaker 16: I can actually say for a fact that people that

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Speaker 16: are close to me and know who I am would

448
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 16: not even say those things. So if you think that

449
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,719
Speaker 16: I'm rude and whatever like, I actually don't care. But

450
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 16: for you to take it to the level that you

451
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 16: did and put such an emphasis on my character, I

452
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 16: have a profession.

453
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 17: I'm not done.

454
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,239
Speaker 16: I have a profession, I have a career, I have

455
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 16: a family. You didn't put any of that into any

456
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 16: the truth.

457
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 17: No, that's the best.

458
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 10: Everyone's allowed to have an opinion.

459
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 16: You're allowed to have an opinion, but you are also

460
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 16: so wrong about so many things, and it's crazy to

461
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 16: have an opinion about something without having a conversation with

462
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 16: that person or at least fact checking yourself. And I'm

463
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 16: not going to sit here and defend myself at all.

464
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 16: All I had to say was that it hurt my feelings.

465
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,439
Speaker 16: You be who you want to be, You do what

466
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 16: you want to do. Sign up as many polygraphs as

467
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 16: you need to do for anyone to make yourself feel better.

468
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 17: But I'm done with this.

469
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 13: Good.

470
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 11: Well, no, I see what Alicia is saying, though it's like, yes,

471
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 11: this has come up many times where us girls will

472
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 11: talk about something like I would go to Alicia, I

473
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 11: would go to Bailey or Alex and I would say

474
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 11: something I'm personally experiencing and I'm upset. And that's the

475
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 11: first thing that these girls would say to me. Why

476
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 11: don't you confront this person? Why don't you talk about it,

477
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 11: have this conversation? And I, kay, I don't know. I

478
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 11: can't speak on your behalf. But for me, it's more

479
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 11: of like a conversation isn't welcomed. It's, at the end

480
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 11: of the day, like the environment that we are in

481
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 11: and how we are made to feel. It's like there's

482
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 11: no light at the end of the tunnel. Like if

483
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 11: I were to go and talk about this how I'm feeling,

484
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 11: I would be putting a larger bulls eye on my back.

485
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 11: At the end of the day, it's still a competition

486
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 11: and I would be turned into an aggressor. Now I'm

487
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 11: and I don't want that, Like I'm feeling a certain way,

488
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 11: like I'm able for me, I'm just gonna sweep how

489
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 11: I'm feeling under the rug and move on.

490
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 10: It's like whatever.

491
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 11: But then I think about it, and like when we

492
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 11: would talk about how we felt, it's like, why are

493
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 11: we shrinking ourselves to keep the peace? And if we

494
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 11: are feeling a certain way, like why don't we, you know,

495
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 11: speak up and talk about it. I mean this was

496
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 11: after the fact, reflecting, But it's like you're in an

497
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 11: environment where like it's you create a problem when you

498
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 11: go to someone and talk about how you feel when

499
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 11: you are looking for a resolution at the end of

500
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 11: the conversation, it's like this is I don't want to

501
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 11: I'm not trying to attack anybody. I want to like

502
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 11: work through something. But it was just unfortunate, Like that's

503
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 11: just how the environment was where we didn't feel comfortable

504
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 11: to talk about it.

505
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, I will say there was one point

506
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 13: on Paradise that I was assigned roommates to be with

507
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 13: Kat and you kind of threw an entire fit that

508
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 13: you're not having roommate. You're the only person who was

509
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 13: assigned because you didn't want a roommate with me.

510
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 16: Wait what No, I walked up to my room and

511
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 16: all of a sudden her name.

512
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 17: That's like an actual lie, So.

513
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 10: His roommate with me? Because how that is?

514
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 16: You should be the one to take the polygraph, but

515
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 16: it is a crazy girl. I walked up a reason,

516
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 16: I said, a reason, and that she never moved in

517
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 16: because she was with you.

518
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 10: I'm just saying that was a chance for us to

519
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 10: be able to connect.

520
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 16: I tried, and I'm sorry if it didn't connect in

521
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 16: the way you wanted to.

522
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 17: And I'm sorry if I ever made you feel like

523
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 17: a bully.

524
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 16: Like I realized that you said that DM. I thought

525
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 16: we were friends. Like when you came to me about Brian,

526
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 16: I thought I really saw myself and you asked Dale.

527
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 16: I stood up as many times, even after the show.

528
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 16: I am a very passionate person. I care, really deeply,

529
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 16: and I know that sometimes that can be taken out

530
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 16: of context, and I've really tried to be a little

531
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 16: bit more outside of myself and see that how everybody

532
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 16: has different sensitivity levels, because honestly, a lot of things

533
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 16: un bothered me, and I expect everybody else to feel

534
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 16: the same, but I realized that's not the case. So

535
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 16: if I ever made you feel like it was in

536
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 16: a safe environment, you too, I'm sorry. That's never my intention. Ever,

537
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 16: It's coming from a place of love. So when I

538
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 16: hear these things that are being said, I did not

539
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 16: know where that was coming from. I would have loved

540
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 16: to have had a conversation if I'd made it unsafe

541
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 16: for you. Again, that was I'm sorry. I just care

542
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 16: really hard and sometimes I don't know how to express it.

543
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 13: Thank you for apologizing, and I'll say I apologize as

544
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 13: well if anything came across from my end that felt

545
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 13: combative or like it was an attack to you, because

546
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 13: it really was. And I felt like I was speaking

547
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 13: my truth and I was kind of getting catching strays

548
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 13: for doing so.

549
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 10: And that was just my experience.

550
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 13: But I definitely believe in turning the cheek and like

551
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 13: giving everybody a second chance.

552
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 10: So I'd love to squash this and move forward with you, Kat,

553
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 10: I really would.

554
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 17: And I'll just say, also, you have a week clear,

555
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 17: like I hear you al Fields too, just like I did.

556
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 17: Did I hurt your guys feelings?

557
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 8: Say it?

558
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 19: And I've told you this before, Kat, and I've said

559
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 19: it throughout the season. I'm very sensitive and you I've

560
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 19: told you this.

561
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 17: You're so funny.

562
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 19: It's like you have such good intention, but you're delivery.

563
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 19: You're so sassy and and like the way you say things.

564
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 19: Sometimes if someone doesn't know your heart, I think they

565
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 19: can misinterpret it. But once you get to know you,

566
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 19: you are a very passionate person. And I will say,

567
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 19: like I don't like I wouldn't have gone through all

568
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 19: the season with all the hate that I got through,

569
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 19: you know, because of you. So I want to say

570
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 19: thank you so much for that.

571
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 10: And I can't speak on Alicia. You know different dynamics.

572
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 19: I get it, but I think sometimes it's just a

573
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 19: delivery and if you just need to get and you

574
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 19: know that we've talked about it.

575
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 17: But you do have a good hard life.

576
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 16: So I just wanted to I just yeah, it was

577
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 16: just a lot of things were said that did affect

578
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 16: my personal life, and yeah, I just wish that more

579
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 16: time was spent to understand who I was before things

580
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 16: were said. Was so much intent, like fact.

581
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: Listen, we can't talk about season ten about your in

582
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: Paradise without talking about the biggest thing, the biggest shakeup

583
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: that happened this season, which was the jury appears everyone returning, Brian,

584
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you what was your thought and

585
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: how were you feeling when you heard that you were

586
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: coming back to the beach.

587
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 9: I was happy to be back, and I mean just

588
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 9: the way things went on again with I would interpret

589
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 9: as the Bailey situation like really put a target on myself.

590
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 9: I don't really think it was the dynamic between Paris

591
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,239
Speaker 9: and I, and I was happy to come back and

592
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 9: make a decision on who I thought should leave with

593
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 9: the money and who I thought was the strongest couple.

594
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 9: Not really with like a revenge or spiteful standpoint, but

595
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 9: I thought it was a good touch.

596
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: Fan question for Alicia, you and Sean came back dropped

597
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: a cat bomb. You mentioned having no regrets. Do you

598
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: still feel that way?

599
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 13: Absolutely? I will never regret being honest. I'll never regretting myself,

600
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 13: and that's exactly what I.

601
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 10: Did, and if I went back, I would do it again.

602
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 13: Now we've had this conversation, Kat, I would say I

603
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 13: would have probably potentially had it with you. I'll be

604
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 13: completely honest. Our biggest concern was, like we thought that

605
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 13: because you had lied about certain things, like the way, that.

606
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 10: It was going to be miss construed.

607
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 17: What did I lie about?

608
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 10: I don't think it helps like go back, No, I would.

609
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 17: Love to know what you think I learned about.

610
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 10: Okay, you were in a relationship.

611
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 17: I was in a relationship. Is that what you're saying?

612
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 10: Yes, based on what based on your ex boyfriend who

613
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 10: confirmed it?

614
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 20: Where So Kat's ex was actually my friend before I

615
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 20: ever met Kat? And listen, exes can be complicated. I'm

616
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 20: sure everyone here has talked to an ex after you've

617
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 20: ripken up. Were they in a relationship? Absolutely not. I

618
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 20: had no loyalty to this girl. I actually thought she

619
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 20: didn't like me, to be honest, literally, I thought she

620
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 20: didn't even like me when I first met her, which

621
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 20: I only met her once before we met on Paradise,

622
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 20: and I had known her ex for almost a year

623
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 20: at that point, and they were not in a relationship.

624
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 16: They were not in a relationship, and I know that

625
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 16: he also said that I no, no, I never said

626
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 16: that you guys are a relationships with that misconstrued.

627
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: It was more so the plan to get back together

628
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: after Paradise. That that was the way I said it,

629
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: And that's the way that.

630
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 14: And that's what happened.

631
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: What this X said to you, yes confirmed.

632
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure everyone was, like I was still

633
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 6: going on dates leading up to the show, So I

634
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 6: don't think that anyone was like in a relationship thing

635
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 6: going on. I think once you it's just dating in

636
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 6: this world. I feel like when you go to Paradise,

637
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 6: it doesn't mean you stop dating. You're still dating multiple

638
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 6: people here like you go on dates, you take people

639
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 6: on dates. That's what I'm saying. I'm listening.

640
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: I'm by I'm not the right to reasons place, all right,

641
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: Like everyone has their own things going on. I think

642
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: where I actually like draw the line because I asked

643
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: to be a line drawn, is like the plan, allegedly, the

644
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: plan to go on Paradise and then get back together

645
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: afterwards on top of like that type of stuff.

646
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 16: So did say we were in a relationship or did

647
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 16: you say.

648
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: That No, he's that was the plan.

649
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 17: So what she said, actually.

650
00:28:52,600 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 16: Either way, it was an act in contact.

651
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 6: Like go through she found someone on paradise. What happened.

652
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: That's well, that's what I mean, Like, if you're planning

653
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: to do that with your ax, then you find someone better.

654
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 6: President doesn't mean I'm going to be the president.

655
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying, that's just like, listen, regardless, I'm like, at

656
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I I think that's where

657
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: you draw a line, like sneaking something in and texting

658
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: them while we're about to start filming.

659
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: That's a little okay outside of it, let's address that.

660
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 17: So when did I sneak something in?

661
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 16: And if and if and if we think that this

662
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 16: show who took I don't know, weeks on end to

663
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 16: show one thing over and over again, that they wouldn't

664
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 16: take that time to show me playing on the iPad

665
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 16: or laptop. Sorry sorry, I'm saying, like, you know, they

666
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 16: weren't trying to hide anything.

667
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 17: So it's like, where was that.

668
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 16: That's not a fair assumption to make that I was

669
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 16: out here texting this man consistently and I know for

670
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 16: a fact that that's not what he said. And I

671
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 16: know for a fact that is, he did not say

672
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 16: that we are in a relationship.

673
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 10: I know.

674
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 16: I don't know what else was said as far as

675
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 16: like getting back together. I know he confirmed that we

676
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 16: were possibly seeing each other before, because yes, I was

677
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 16: dating before Paradise.

678
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 17: I'm allowed to do that.

679
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 16: I'm going on a dating show, right, But to say

680
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 16: that I had a relationship or that I was consistently

681
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 16: talking to somebody is not true period.

682
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: I would disagree. I mean, it depends on how you

683
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: contact it.

684
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 20: I'm just like, there's.

685
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 10: Like a big thing of the day.

686
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 17: It's I he wouldn't give in to you this morning.

687
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 18: Hold on, can I just dead something?

688
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: Because we had this.

689
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 18: Whole moment at the end, Like before Paradise, I didn't

690
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 18: know anyone coming into this. Also, like I'm pretty I

691
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 18: feel like I can read people pretty well. What we

692
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 18: went through in Paradise was real and it happened, so

693
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 18: like all this other stuff that people are talking about

694
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 18: happened before a I don't know whoever you know exes

695
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 18: or past relationsships from Jump. I didn't care, like because

696
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 18: I'm focused on what we went through, the time that

697
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 18: we had, and also at the end of the day,

698
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 18: if that is the biggest thing in the biggest hurdle

699
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 18: that you have to overcome in a relationship. Damn, I

700
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 18: am envious of you because life is hard. There's real

701
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 18: ship that people have to go through, and like this

702
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 18: is such a minor thing in the grand scheme of things.

703
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 10: So but when there's five hundred thousand dollars on the

704
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 10: line and we're about.

705
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: To think that, I know, but we were, like, we haven't.

706
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 17: I know you were.

707
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 13: That's the only reason that we really wanted to say,

708
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 13: because we didn't want people who had bad intentions to.

709
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 18: Wear Like I'm not worried about five hundred thousand dollars,

710
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 18: but I think it's I.

711
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: Do think it's in the past.

712
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 17: I think I don't realize I was.

713
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 18: I was protecting my partner. But also, at the end

714
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 18: of the day, whatever you y'all said in that moment,

715
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 18: it wasn't going to shake what we had or what

716
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 18: we built at that moment, right And let me let

717
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 18: me be very very clear. At the same time too,

718
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 18: I don't have hate for either of y'all. Like whatever

719
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 18: the situation, I know Sean was heard, I know that

720
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 18: there is things that you know we like, But at

721
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 18: the end of the day, my number one priority was

722
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 18: cat and it you know, while we went through our

723
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 18: stuff throughout the season, it was that was the priority,

724
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 18: and we ended that way, so nothing was gonna shake that.

725
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 10: And I commend you on the way you guys have

726
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 10: stuck together. I think it's actually and this.

727
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 18: Is like, it's so minor in the grand scheme of things.

728
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 18: And I know y'all are getting a lot of smoke

729
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 18: and stuff right now, Like, Okay, everyone makes their decisions,

730
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 18: but at the end of the day, like our relationship,

731
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 18: we learned through paradise and we built it far beyond

732
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 18: and it hasn't even been a sticking point.

733
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 13: But I think it with this in the same vein,

734
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 13: we are allowed to speak our truth and we are

735
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 13: kind of being crucified for doing so.

736
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 18: And like you like in that, like you do, you

737
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 18: did nothing wrong for making the decisions and communicating the

738
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 18: things in the way that you have and like you know,

739
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 18: there might be some frustrations at times, but you don't

740
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 18: have hate from us on our end. Likewise, at the

741
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 18: end of the day, like we have to live our lives.

742
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 18: And this is a short glimpse in the grand scheme

743
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 18: of things. So we'll talk about it right here and now.

744
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 18: But like our lives are moving forward, like all of us.

745
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 13: So I'm glad that we have the opportunity to do so,

746
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 13: because it really was throughout our experience. Was Sean really

747
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 13: backing you up, Kat and speaking accolades about you, and

748
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 13: vice versa. I never had anything bad to say about

749
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 13: Dale from the experiences that we had, so just brought

750
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 13: me I do from our experiences.

751
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 18: There's pain. There's experiences, right, and we all have them

752
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 18: and they might not align with what we think and

753
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 18: what we want, but that's the human experience and we

754
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 18: understand that. And like yoh, like all right, thank you.

755
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 10: For coming to our ted talk.

756
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think that the purpose of this whole

757
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: thing is for clarity, right, and so this is a

758
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: fan question, and this is just a cat okay fan question. Okay, Cat,

759
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: please clarify. Did you have a boyfriend before for coming

760
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: to Paradise and were you texting him while you were

761
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: in Paradise.

762
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 17: I did not have a boyfriend coming into Paradise.

763
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 16: I did leave at the boyfriend and I was not

764
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 16: texting him during paradise at all.

765
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 10: Okay, there was.

766
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,800
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Speaker 14: Andrew, but what's that, Jonathan?

777
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Speaker 20: You're here?

778
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 14: I got him hang out.

779
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: I gotta know, do you still stand by your statement

780
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: that Sean is the greatest villain in Bachelor Nation history.

781
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 6: I want to clarify this. I don't think it was

782
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 6: a negative thing that I said.

783
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 14: There's I love good Villa.

784
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 6: I want to make sure you know that villains are

785
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 6: some of my favorite things in movies, like Thanos, I

786
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 6: love I love the Joker. I'm just saying I was.

787
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 6: I was impressed. You go through Bachelor and you see

788
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 6: like I had like villains on my season, but what

789
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 6: I saw, I was like, oh, this is what people

790
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 6: talk about villains are, and I was just like that

791
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 6: was that was what I saw. I was it was

792
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 6: just like the attention you you you had everyone lined up.

793
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 6: I was, I love your up to where you were.

794
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 6: It was just like, this is very villain and I wanted.

795
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 14: And you didn't.

796
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 6: You didn't start.

797
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 16: I will say also, like in relation to our friendship, right,

798
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 16: I know that perception is everything, and I'm sorry if

799
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 16: you ever felt like there was like loyalty that was

800
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 16: there that maybe like I wasn't expressing or it wasn't reciprocated,

801
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 16: reciprocated thet there wasn't as much like I'm sorry guys anyways.

802
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 16: So that is like where I was always coming from.

803
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 16: I never said we weren't friends. I did say, like

804
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 16: when I was asked are we good friends? Like, aren't

805
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 16: you guys good friends? I was like, well, I want

806
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 16: to say good friends because in that moment, we really

807
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 16: hadn't like talked every day. We did talk leading up

808
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 16: to Paradise, but the way that things were moving during

809
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 16: the day, I was really confused by your actions because

810
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 16: that wasn't the sean that I like, aligned with or knew,

811
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 16: so that's where I was coming from. I knew that

812
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 16: emotions are really heightened the moment, which is exactly why

813
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 16: I called you later, like a couple of weeks ago,

814
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 16: and we talked through a lot of our I guess

815
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 16: perception of the situation. But when you did what you

816
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 16: did and how it was done, the emotions did not

817
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 16: just come from what was said. It was literally it

818
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 16: brought me back to two years ago in Paradise, when

819
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 16: things were just coming at me every day and I

820
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 16: felt so overwhelmed and attacked, and all I cared about

821
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 16: was his emotions and helping him. I have somebody that

822
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 16: I don't know, like obviously things were said to my exit.

823
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 16: I don't know what was said, and I had no

824
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 16: way to reach him, so it's like I felt like

825
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 16: my power was completely taken from me. So that is

826
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 16: where a lot of my emotions came from. I don't

827
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 16: think that you are like this horrible person. I think

828
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 16: you felt really hurt, and so I don't have any

829
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 16: hatred or negative emotions towards too. I do wish things

830
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 16: were done differently, because I think we deserve that, but

831
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 16: I hope you know, like I wasn't like I'm not

832
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 16: friends with Sean. I just didn't agree with your behavior.

833
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 16: And as a friend, I'll always tell someone that.

834
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 2: Again, like we don't necessarily get full contacts in the situation,

835
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: Like you hear things like from other people, so then

836
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: you make I guess assumptions what's going on, So like

837
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: to give context people like this was like me kavnichruck

838
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: for two years and like based on Paradise last time,

839
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: and like our relationship in Tampa, like she she her

840
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: name gets brought up a lot, and I've always been

841
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: there to like defend constantly on camera off camera. So

842
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: like the way that I, I guess took it was

843
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: like as soon as the cards came against me, she

844
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: didn't have my back in that situation. I felt so

845
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 2: betrayed because like you guys don't see obviously, when we're

846
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: not on a camera, you don't see it. But that

847
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 2: was like two years constantly like always coming to her defense.

848
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: So that's why I kind of reacted the way I

849
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: think she she.

850
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 18: Spoke highly of you though when Joe came in and

851
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 18: all those things, like she she truly did sp like

852
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 18: I feel like you I you know, developed a quick bond, right, Yeah,

853
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 18: because like she vouched for you and spoke very very

854
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 18: highly of you. So like the moment that happened on

855
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 18: film or on camera, Yeah, you know, I wasn't there,

856
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 18: but I can say that she she did.

857
00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 6: She she really really did.

858
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: No totally.

859
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: I think like if we had, like maybe I had

860
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: another conversation before that went down, we could be like, no, dude,

861
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm like trying to protect you, like I'm not coming

862
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: after you. I don't think the girls are coming after you.

863
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: What I was saying was that in two days, it's

864
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: gonna be all couples, We're gonna have to vote for

865
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: each other, and there's gonna be everyone's gonna be at odds.

866
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 17: We should just wait the next day when Yeah, I mean.

867
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: You did say something that like on camera that was

868
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 1: pretty poignant, said.

869
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 14: You had receipts.

870
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, so are there receipts?

871
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 14: Like do you have a love letter?

872
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 12: Well?

873
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: I think though the truth is there's reeats. I think

874
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: it's somewhere in between us. I was she texting her

875
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: ex when we got to Azora?

876
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 3: No?

877
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: Do I think you were texting when we were at

878
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: the staging hotel in Costa Rica. Yes, so I think

879
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: there's somewhere in the middle. Do I have their seats?

880
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 12: Uh?

881
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: The guy mentioned his name.

882
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be involved in like any of this,

883
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: which obviously I get. So I wasn't really hounding him

884
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: at all that much. I asked for him today, just

885
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: not in like his text messages, like love letters. More

886
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: so just like time stantce like, hey, I'm not lying

887
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: about the iPad thing, whether or not there was a

888
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: planner love letters, but regardless. When we came back in

889
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: it was like you have that you have all the

890
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: time in Paradise leading up to that point. You have

891
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: Cat and Dale justin Spencer, one of them gets a

892
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 2: chance to win money. I was like, well, I want

893
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: like I felt more confident and then those two love

894
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 2: stories than the other one. So but I had a

895
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: conversation with this person when we left. When we got eliminated,

896
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: I was giving my phone for like, call my family,

897
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: call my friends, and then called the other guy.

898
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 14: I couldn't get a camera on him for that.

899
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, come on now.

900
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: Uh, Jeremy, I have a fan question for you. You

901
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: said there were people with you at the final Rose

902
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: ceremony who said they would never vote for you.

903
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 14: Who do you think betrayed you in the end?

904
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 21: I mean they are my friends, but I mean Spencer

905
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 21: and Dale.

906
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 6: Both said that, So I didn't vote for you for

907
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 6: the you.

908
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 21: I'll say, yeah, Like Dale, I get because like we

909
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 21: were roomates. We're talking about, we wanted to be us

910
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 21: two in the end, That's the only person I was

911
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 21: really aligning with. But I do get it from his

912
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 21: point of view, where when it came, you know and

913
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 21: push whatever the fucking phrases, push comes to shop, like

914
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 21: we realized it was going to be one of us

915
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 21: two going home. So I did get that, Spencer, I

916
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 21: love you, man. I wish what Spencer said to me

917
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 21: is that like he didn't want to vote separately from Jess,

918
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 21: and I was like me and me and Bailey had

919
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 21: made the decisions to vote together sometimes, and we'd also

920
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 21: made decisions to vote separately. So listen, I love both

921
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 21: of you, I really do. If you want to send

922
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 21: me a check for like a few thousand dollars like that,

923
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 21: at that point, like me and me and Bailey had

924
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 21: something so strong that like we were like we weren't

925
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 21: trying to sway like anyone like Keith and Cathy. We

926
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 21: were like, we were ready to go home if it

927
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 21: was our time.

928
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 6: But that.

929
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 21: But then when it came time, like with the with

930
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 21: the with the Jury of Peers, you could respond that

931
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 21: after when it came to the Jury of Peers, it

932
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 21: wasn't a personal thing. It's like they both voted me.

933
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 21: I already knew Spencer and Jess were going to move forward,

934
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 21: but I wasn't going to vote for them to move forward. Well,

935
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 21: we were all strong couples, and I also had no

936
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 21: idea they were planning on getting engaged until after that.

937
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 22: What I will say is we've talked a lot about

938
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 22: strength of relationships, strong relationships, not strong relationships. I think

939
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 22: we were all put unknowingly in an impossible situation of

940
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 22: judging other people's relationships with little to no context. As

941
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 22: we've seen now watching the show back ninety percent of

942
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 22: the things said, I had no idea that anything was said.

943
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 22: And when it came down to voting for either Jeremy

944
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 22: or Dale to leave, Jess can attest to how torn

945
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 22: up I was about that because when I pulled back,

946
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 22: both Jess and I we had voted separately beforehand. We

947
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 22: had agreed from here on out, we're going to vote together, and.

948
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 8: We agreed that.

949
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 22: We needed to come to a con consensus together because

950
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 22: from here on out we were voting on couples strength

951
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 22: of couples right, And for me, the big turning point

952
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 22: for myself because I was originally expecting Dale to go

953
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 22: after us. We had a conversation and Dale told me that, hey,

954
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 22: it's based on strength of relationship. Obviously, both Dale and

955
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 22: Jeremy were roommates. I was expecting him to vote with

956
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 22: his roommate. And when he said, you know, we see

957
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 22: how strong you guys are. We want you to be

958
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 22: able to stay together, it made me actually pull back

959
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 22: and look at everything and say, Okay, if I'm truly

960
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 22: assessing everything as strength of relationship, where am I going

961
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 22: with it? And at that point, it's like cutting hairs

962
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 22: and it's so little context given into different relationships. Both

963
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 22: Jess and Kat were closer, so I heard more from

964
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 22: Jess about their relationship than I did about both Bailey

965
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 22: and Jeremy. So it wasn't any slide on Jeremy. And

966
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 22: I apologize because I did say I would never vote

967
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 22: for him, and and I apologize for that completely and

968
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 22: I and that's why I also have absolutely no issue,

969
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 22: no issue with Jeremy voting the way that he voted.

970
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 22: I love Bailey, love Jeremy. I'm so happy there together,

971
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 22: and I'm excited to go Disney World.

972
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: Kathy, it seemed like you wanted to you wanted to

973
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: pipe up a little bit when it came to uh,

974
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: Jeremy and Bailey.

975
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 7: I think that I know what Kathy's talking about. So basically,

976
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 7: when the night that we figured out we were going home,

977
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 7: we really didn't spend time trying to sway our friends. Besides,

978
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 7: like obviously, you guys had conversations. We had a conversation.

979
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 7: We were aligned, and I think what was frustrating, I

980
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 7: think was that Kathy had decided that she wanted to

981
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 7: pick who she thought needed deserve the most money. And

982
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 7: I think that was really hurtful for us because just

983
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 7: because I have a ton of nice things, has that.

984
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 17: Has something to do?

985
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 10: Have you ever thought it was like what?

986
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 8: Just not?

987
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 15: Yes?

988
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 7: Well, Kathy, you said that the way that you were

989
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 7: voting that night was because based on who you believed

990
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 7: deserved me money the most, which I understand why. Obviously,

991
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 7: Alexandre went won the challenge. What I mean, so like

992
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 7: if they were on the Chaling loot. But like I

993
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 7: think the reason why we had a conversation with with

994
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 7: both of you was to be clear that I think

995
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 7: that we can't, none of us can attest to anyone's

996
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 7: financial goals in the future financial decisions, and I think

997
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 7: we wanted to make it clear we were really honestly.

998
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 7: We didn't spend time swaying anyone because at that point,

999
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 7: like everyone's minds are made up, it's kind of it

1000
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 7: was up to you guys about.

1001
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 5: What was going to happen.

1002
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 4: So first of all, I love all of you guys,

1003
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: and I think each and every one of you know

1004
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 4: that Keith and I had spoken and we had talked

1005
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 4: about for us, we were never coming after the money

1006
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: because we are in our last chapter of our great

1007
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 4: lives and we were never going to take money from

1008
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 4: young and as I refer to you, never that was

1009
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 4: never going to happen.

1010
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 5: So we talked about it, and we.

1011
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 4: Talk to you guys about you know, what you want

1012
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 4: to use the money for, and for me, you know,

1013
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 4: when you are at your age, what I think about

1014
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: is starting a family, paying off school loans, buying a

1015
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 4: first home, all those things I've done, I've lived that life.

1016
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 5: So for me, it was.

1017
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 4: I've said it, how many times those of you who

1018
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: are in love are going to leave with each other?

1019
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 5: What a gift?

1020
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 4: How many times did I sat with love to have

1021
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 4: left with the love of my life? Having said that,

1022
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 4: once money comes into it, the money is separate from

1023
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: the love. And so those couples who I believed, rightly

1024
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 4: or wrongly could use the money to start to pay

1025
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 4: off loans, to buy a home, to pay off school debt,

1026
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 4: whatever it was. That's how I voted. And when I

1027
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 4: interviewed everyone, Andrew and Alex talked about paying off loans

1028
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: and starting a life, and Jason Spencer talked about buying

1029
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 4: a home and building their life together. And honestly, I

1030
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 4: love you guys, and you know that you guys talked

1031
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 4: about traveling together and seeing the world, and that's what.

1032
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 17: You talked about, buying a place together.

1033
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong.

1034
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 5: Wait, there's nothing wrong.

1035
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 12: Wait.

1036
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 8: Wait.

1037
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 10: Wait, By the way, a lot of people have student loans.

1038
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 5: I know. Believe me, I paid ten years at school.

1039
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 7: And I think I understand fun feels comfortable talking about

1040
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 7: I get it, and that you know and I just

1041
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 7: never said that I.

1042
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 4: Did the best I could. Keith and I did the

1043
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: best we could. We are so grateful to have all

1044
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 4: of you in our lives, and we did the best

1045
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: we could in the moment.

1046
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 19: But I also just want to say I never tried

1047
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 19: us because we were already safe. I just want to

1048
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 19: make it clear that I was never trying to get

1049
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 19: votes for my student.

1050
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 10: Loans, like it was just something I was like.

1051
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 8: Oh no, wait, I question.

1052
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 14: I have a question for the group. I have a

1053
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 14: question for the group.

1054
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: What if anyone choose the money over love?

1055
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 13: Here?

1056
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 21: Bley and I talked about this because we thought we

1057
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 21: were going to, you know, make it a further night,

1058
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 21: and we were like, what if the final challenge is

1059
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 21: like choosing money or love? And I said, listen, I

1060
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 21: just thought about that.

1061
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1062
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 21: I was like, I will choose the money and take

1063
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 21: the hate. And I know we could just see each

1064
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 21: other the next day.

1065
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 7: I'm so smart, and then we can just date secretly,

1066
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 7: which and now I can buy whatever.

1067
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 14: The money, but then I'll split it with you.

1068
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1069
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I don't think I feel like we trusted

1070
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 7: each other enough, like that was kind of our plan.

1071
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Hey, you looking for the perfect

1072
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,359
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1073
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:33,360
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1074
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 6: I asked if she wanted the full thing when we

1075
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 6: as soon as we got off the show, and she declined.

1076
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 6: She was like, no, that's not what we're doing. Like

1077
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 6: I have my part, you have your part, and obviously

1078
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 6: she's gonna be moving to Chicago. It'll because it's not like,

1079
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 6: you know, just a shared account. We're talking about, do.

1080
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 5: You want to pay up the rest of my school dat?

1081
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: Leiah and Jonathan we haven't really gotten to hear a lot,

1082
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: just a few. I mean, like, is there is there

1083
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: any possibility of a romance between you two?

1084
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 13: No?

1085
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 5: Sorry, can I tell you?

1086
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 6: I thought it was coming. I was like, really, I

1087
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 6: thought it was about to flip because you guys were

1088
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 6: getting so close and you were laughing so much. I

1089
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 6: was like, oh, this shit is about to happen, Like

1090
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 6: he was about to flip and you guys about to

1091
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 6: be in love, and I'm.

1092
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 15: Like, I can't get along so well, look at the compatibility.

1093
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 6: That I feel like that that would have been.

1094
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 10: No. I love and I truly I don't.

1095
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 16: Think I would ever want to jeopardize like the friendship

1096
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 16: that we have.

1097
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 13: I don't know, we just have like such a nice

1098
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 13: friendship going on, and like, yeah, already.

1099
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: Jonathan, you talked about kind of not being in the

1100
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: right headspace coming into Paradise.

1101
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 14: Can you expand upon that, Like.

1102
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think getting asked so far in advance put

1103
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 15: me in a really tough position. You know, there's a

1104
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 15: lot of positivity behind me, and it's an amazing, incredible thing.

1105
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 15: I don't think anybody would deny getting all the love,

1106
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 15: especially after watching shit back and you see all the

1107
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 15: hate that comes, You're like, I would kill for that. Yeah,

1108
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 15: I think anybody would. But with that comes a pressure

1109
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 15: to perform the way people expect, you know. I think

1110
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 15: the first time was like very like good guy. So

1111
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 15: in people's minds, I'm this perfect person, not just a

1112
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 15: good guy who can make mistakes. So I'm going into

1113
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 15: the scenario and I'm like, fuck, I got to do that,

1114
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 15: do right by everybody. I want to do this right.

1115
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 15: And I've been waiting so damn long.

1116
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm so excited.

1117
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 15: And then I get there and you know, I try

1118
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 15: with Alex and you know, it's just not right for us.

1119
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 15: Her and I again are great friends. You know, Cat

1120
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 15: and I we talked like a day and it was

1121
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 15: way over stretched. I think we all know that, and

1122
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 15: we ended up being good. And then, yeah, I think

1123
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 15: people just came to the beach that I just didn't

1124
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 15: have a romantic spark with and it was hard.

1125
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 12: You know.

1126
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 15: I cried to stay multiple or to go multiple times,

1127
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 15: and you know, it was just hard. You know, I'm

1128
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 15: watching some of my best friends that I've made from

1129
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 15: the show fall for their person I can attest to this.

1130
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 15: I guess it's hard to watch your friends fall in love,

1131
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 15: especially when you can feel how real it is and

1132
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 15: then you're there and you're like, fuck, I want this

1133
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 15: to work too.

1134
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 10: It was tough.

1135
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: Tell me what your type is, because I love to

1136
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: know exactly what we did.

1137
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 14: What you need beautiful.

1138
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: Women in your way, and I need to know exactly

1139
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: what we need to bring a pair of Yes.

1140
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 15: Somebody, somebody actually commented this and I had to take

1141
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 15: a long, hard like thought on it to sum it

1142
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 15: up into one thing, and it's I'm not chasing a look,

1143
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 15: I'm not chasing specific attributes. I'm chasing a feeling, you know,

1144
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 15: I want to like talk to somebody. I want to

1145
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 15: feel better. I want to feel that like excitement to

1146
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 15: like not leave your side.

1147
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 16: So obviously you and I got very close in Paradise,

1148
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 16: and I think what being in this experience coming back

1149
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 16: from people and all these things, Like we met each

1150
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 16: other at a bar like a couple months prior, you

1151
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 16: wouldn't even talk to me.

1152
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 17: I think you were so in your head.

1153
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 16: About like I want to make sure that it's perfect right,

1154
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 16: And when we set these expectations of how things are

1155
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 16: going to go, it it is a disservice because it doesn't.

1156
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 17: Allow you to fully let go.

1157
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 16: And that happened to me the first time in a

1158
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 16: way but a little different. But it just in these environments,

1159
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 16: it is really difficult to even find that feeling because

1160
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 16: there's so much like outside noise, even in your own head.

1161
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 16: And I think that's kind of like what was happening.

1162
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 16: And I kind of clocked that and I was like, Nope,

1163
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 16: already been there, done that, not doing it. But I

1164
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 16: don't think it's it's a negative thing. It's just a

1165
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 16: growing moment. And this is what this ex experience allows.

1166
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 16: We get to watch ourselves back and be like, Okay,

1167
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 16: I'm going to take this into my life now.

1168
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 6: I mean because I I we talked about it multiple

1169
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 6: du literally me like that literally was me that first

1170
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 6: time on Paradise and I was miserable and like women

1171
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 6: just kept coming in and I'm just like going on.

1172
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 6: I'm like I don't want to be here, like I

1173
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 6: have nothing left. Once I like the girl that I

1174
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 6: wanted to talk to, like that was deaded. I was

1175
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 6: just like I was just like I was just like what

1176
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 6: am I doing here? And you know, well a ton

1177
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 6: of times had to pick me up and telling me

1178
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 6: to keep going, and I think that made me become

1179
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 6: a little bit more mature, more everything best shape in

1180
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 6: my life right after that Paradise and then like obviously

1181
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 6: I got another shot and third times a charm, So

1182
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 6: I'm telling you to get back on yeah and do this.

1183
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 15: Also, those conversations were so helpful too, because I was like,

1184
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 15: am I like alone in this and I'm stirring and

1185
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 15: I'm like I wanted this to work for the last

1186
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 15: ten months.

1187
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 6: At the end of the day, you just have to

1188
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 6: just be yourself and whatever happens happens. Like I was

1189
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 6: okay with going home if like I could have pulled.

1190
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 6: I would be okay with being a susie. Like I

1191
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 6: came in there and not like found anyone. I would

1192
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 6: have been so good with just going on. I was

1193
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 6: so I was totally fine with me. But I feel

1194
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 6: like that's the same mentality you gotta go, you know

1195
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 6: what I mean. I feel like you try to create

1196
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 6: this perfect love story. Like man, I was thinking I

1197
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 6: was gonna get proposed. I was like, can I get

1198
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 6: a helicopter take you somewhere else? Everyone doesn't propose and

1199
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 6: I want to go, so like that's like my whole thought,

1200
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 6: like going through everything I was like so ready for

1201
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 6: and I was just like creating this false narrative and

1202
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 6: I was just like a shell of myself when I

1203
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 6: was there. Everyone's like, what's wrong with him? Why is

1204
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 6: he not like who I see on.

1205
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 15: That's the biggest thing that people keep saying. I'm like,

1206
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 15: if you know me, can see how miserable I am.

1207
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 15: I'm sitting there in the corner to say anything to

1208
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 15: mess up. Like the reason I made it so far

1209
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 15: too is like I want to make a joke about

1210
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 15: it every time. But I'm like I'm a man who

1211
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 15: learned how to shut the fuck up and just let

1212
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 15: her do all the talking. I was like just zipping.

1213
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 14: Question for everyone. Did you have a good time on

1214
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 14: Bachler in Paris?

1215
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1216
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, some people had better times than had a really

1217
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: good dam.

1218
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 10: I mean.

1219
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 19: I think the most fun. I mean, I don't know

1220
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 19: about you guys, but the night where I was Jeremy's

1221
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 19: birthday and we just all felt confected.

1222
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 8: What do we do for your birthday?

1223
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 19: Came but it just felt like everything was English like

1224
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 19: light and we had everything behind and.

1225
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 10: We were just like together as a group.

1226
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 11: It was the voting. The voting threw us all off.

1227
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 11: I lost the challenges. I thought it was great, but

1228
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 11: then the voting it well, it put.

1229
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 22: Us in a position where like, yeah, we don't want it.

1230
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 8: We didn't want to do that.

1231
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 16: Yeah, but I will say not having people come in

1232
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 16: allowed us to really Like, For me, it took me.

1233
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 16: It took the anxiety away of like, oh, well, my

1234
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 16: man's just gonna leave me tomorrow and make me anxious

1235
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 16: and insecure.

1236
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 17: So like to know that like our focus is.

1237
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 16: Each other and I don't have to worry about what's

1238
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 16: gonna happen the next day did help.

1239
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 19: Yeah, Bet are connections at the end, like we have

1240
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 19: such strong couples that came out of this.

1241
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 17: So I think it was a I love playing in

1242
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 17: the at least you're like, well where somebody would have came.

1243
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 6: And I and I also want to preface this, like

1244
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 6: I've seen online like this is just the worst cast

1245
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 6: of people. I genuinely never felt like anyone was rude

1246
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 6: to anyone in front of me. Besides obviously the last

1247
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 6: part was kind of crazy, but you're the villain of

1248
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 6: the year. But other than that, I feel like it

1249
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 6: was just such a good mix of people that I

1250
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 6: didn't know. I didn't have any friends that I knew

1251
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 6: coming in, Like I met I hung out with Sean

1252
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 6: and Dale once, and then I knew of Jeremy, but

1253
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 6: I didn't know him. So I felt like this cast

1254
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 6: was like I had to I had to create new friends,

1255
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 6: but I also had to create new relationship with the

1256
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 6: people you're with. So I think it was a really

1257
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 6: well done thing, like bringing everyone together. And like I said,

1258
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 6: the drama was kind of not existent for me. I

1259
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 6: didn't really feel like there was a lot of drama,

1260
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 6: like in your face, like I feel like every day

1261
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 6: everyone was very kumbayah, very very good, very having a

1262
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 6: good time. So I don't want to like have the

1263
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 6: show be tarnished because of like what they might have

1264
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 6: saw compared to what we felt on the beat.

1265
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 14: Well, listen, closing words here, Listen.

1266
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: I've done eight seasons of this show, and I know

1267
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: how hard it is to let yourselves be so vulnerable

1268
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: and open up to so many people. And I thought

1269
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: you guys did it the best of any cast I've

1270
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: ever experienced. You all gave everything to the show and

1271
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: to the people out there that are showing hate to

1272
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: a lot of these people that I love a lot.

1273
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 14: I have to just remember that you guys are real people.

1274
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: You have real feeling and words really do hurt. But

1275
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: I applaud you guys all. I'm glad that it worked

1276
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: for some of you. I'm glad you guys had fun.

1277
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: I enjoyed making drinks for you all summer long.

1278
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 6: They didn't.

1279
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 5: Can you make the drink stronger next time?

1280
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: All right? That concludes our Paradise reunion. Thank you to

1281
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: everyone for tuning in to Bachelor, Happy Hours, Bachelor and

1282
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: Paradise Unplugged. It's been an amazing evening. I want to

1283
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: thank the entire cast and the crew for an amazing

1284
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: Season ten of Bachelor and Paradise. And to all our

1285
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: listeners out there, make sure you subscribe because we're not

1286
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: done yet with the Paradise content. We have more interviews

1287
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: coming your way that you do not want to miss.

1288
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 14: Thank you, and good night.