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Speaker 1: John middlecoff three and Now podcast. The Cleveland Browns upset

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers in a blizzard, in a driving snow storm.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm over hyping it. Maybe it's just snow, but

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Speaker 1: Doesn't get much better for sitting on your couch and

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Speaker 1: actually drinking some red wine, but and just enjoying AFC

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Speaker 1: North football. That was bad. As props to the Browns fans,

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Speaker 1: We'll dive into the game some of the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: coaching decisions down the stretch, which I, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think cost him the game. I do want to hit

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Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones basically gave a speech today acknowledging his

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Speaker 1: career with the Giants is over and the Jets. Some

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's Fugazi Friday, so we got some

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Speaker 1: the Sixers who might win ten games this season, and

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Speaker 1: there was something else which I'll get to a little later,

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Speaker 1: as well as Stuckey, who joins us every Thursday. So

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Speaker 1: games this weekend on Sunday, as well as the big

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Speaker 1: college football game Indiana thirteen point dog against the Ohio

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Speaker 1: will tell, but we'll discuss that game from a gambling perspective.

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Speaker 1: my hat and give a standing ovation to the Browns fans.

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Speaker 1: Obviously that game. If you don't live in an area

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Speaker 1: it is an extremely cool event to watch a snow

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Speaker 3: Enough consistently enough to help the team get the results.

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Speaker 3: The reality of the NFL is it's hard to win

430
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Speaker 3: games and requires consistent performance from everyone involved. We didn't

431
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Speaker 3: do that well enough, so the idea to change something happens,

432
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Speaker 3: and I understand.

433
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Speaker 1: I love the game, I love being part of a team.

434
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Speaker 3: I'm excited for the next opportunity and know that there's

435
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Speaker 3: a lot of good football in front of me, and

436
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: I'm excited about that. To all the fans, I have

437
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: deep respect and appreciation for your passion and love for

438
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Speaker 3: the Giants. The fans are a huge part of what

439
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Speaker 3: makes playing for the Giants so special.

440
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Speaker 1: One thing I was taught early on when I was

441
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Speaker 1: scouting college players is to always evaluate the player before

442
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Speaker 1: you got the character information. Because if you got the

443
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Speaker 1: character information first and it was a guy that just

444
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: was really impressive, stood for everything that you would want

445
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Speaker 1: in a player that you'd want to pound the table for,

446
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: because of his work ethic, because of his love of football,

447
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: because maybe what he's overcome in his personal life, in

448
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: his family life, his background and where he started and

449
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: where he's at now, maybe it's just the leadership that

450
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Speaker 1: he possesses in that program. Whatever it may be, can

451
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: cloud your judgment once you get that information and then

452
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Speaker 1: once you turn on the tape. And it can also

453
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Speaker 1: work in the reverse. If you get the character information

454
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Speaker 1: before you watch the player and it's really bad and

455
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Speaker 1: I mean just stuff that might be non negotiables for

456
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Speaker 1: you or your organization, and then you watch the player

457
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: and he's pretty good, it can also cloud your judgment

458
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Speaker 1: the wrong way. So ideally, you watch the player without

459
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: any information about the guy, and you just evaluate the player.

460
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Speaker 1: Then you get all the off the field information and

461
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: you separate that in your report, which you would anyway,

462
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: but your evaluation on the field, which obviously is the

463
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: most important thing in the business of football, is separate.

464
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Speaker 1: And it's just strictly can the guy play, can he not?

465
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: Does he fit your team or does he not? Nothing

466
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Speaker 1: involved with how he is as a guy. And I

467
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: think Daniel Jones is a perfect example of when you

468
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Speaker 1: let the character cloud your judgment on the player, because

469
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Speaker 1: when we listen to Daniel Jones talk, I mean, this

470
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: has got to be one of the most embarrassing moments

471
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Speaker 1: of his professional life. He's a third stringer while he's

472
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Speaker 1: making forty million dollars a year, the best player on

473
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Speaker 1: the team. Dexter Lawrence has been outspoken how he doesn't

474
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Speaker 1: agree with the desame I saw. Brian Daball had to

475
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: come out today and say, like, I respect Dexter Lawrence,

476
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: Obviously we love him here, but sometimes we're going to disagree.

477
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 1: And clearly this decision was made for financial reasons, but

478
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: also acknowledging Daniel Jones stinks. He can't be our starting

479
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: quarterback anymore and we can't risk him getting hurt while

480
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Speaker 1: we are losing, so we gotta pay him twenty three

481
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Speaker 1: million dollars next year. Well, when you listen to Daniel

482
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Jones talk, you got pretty impressive individual. You know why,

483
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: because he is. He's really outside of the game of football.

484
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: Everything you would want from a work ethic standpoint, clearly

485
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Speaker 1: from an in the locker room leadership, get along with

486
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Speaker 1: the teammates and be a good guy standpoint. You never

487
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Speaker 1: when you lay your head down at night as a GM,

488
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Speaker 1: as a coach, as an owner. He is probably the

489
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Speaker 1: last guy on your fifty three man roster that you

490
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Speaker 1: were worried about getting a call in the middle of

491
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Speaker 1: the night. He got in trouble and that matters. It

492
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: really does. Especially at the quarterback position. He looks the part.

493
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: He's clearly an intelligent guy coming from Duke. Honestly, if

494
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Speaker 1: you drew up a quarterback, not on the field, but

495
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: just in terms of height, athleticism, you know, intangibles, intelligence

496
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: like he would check a lot of boxes. The problem

497
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: is he's not very good at football. And in most

498
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: of our industries, I'm a good example of this. When

499
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: people took chances on me, whether it be in college football,

500
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: whether it was in the NFL early on in my

501
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: career talking for a living, it was because they just

502
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: kind of bet on the guy. It was hard for

503
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Speaker 1: me to prove quote unquote was I talented enough could

504
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: I get the job done? But like a lot of

505
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: people listening, someone just went, this kid's hungry, this guy

506
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: wants it. I'm taking a chance. Rights. That's why most

507
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: of us, whether you run a company, whether you run

508
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: a business, whether you're in charge of hiring, why a

509
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: lot of people take chances on people. You're just kind

510
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: of betting on the person. Obviously, there are some industries

511
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: where you have to have, you know, a level of

512
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Speaker 1: a resume in that field, whether it's a doctor, medical degree,

513
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: a lawyer. You know a lot agree, But for a

514
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: lot of us in the private sector, it's like, I

515
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: just believe in this guy and we will help teach

516
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: him and figure out how to produce and set industry.

517
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Speaker 1: That is not the case in football, especially at the

518
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Speaker 1: quarterback position. Obviously betting on the person matters. Most of

519
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks, really, all the top quarterbacks are clearly

520
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: really good guys in the NFL right now, and check

521
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: all the boxes off the field, Mahomes, Alan Lamar, Herbert Burrow, right,

522
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: the old guy who can still play Stafford even some

523
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: of the guys that have turned their careers around. Clearly

524
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray has matured a lot like that's not really

525
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: debatable at this time. A couple of years ago, a

526
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: lot of question marks has really grown up. We'll let's

527
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: use him as an example, even early on in his

528
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Speaker 1: career when I mean, if the worst thing you have

529
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: is you're playing too much video games, like there could

530
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Speaker 1: be worse problems to have, But why did they ultimately like, listen,

531
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Speaker 1: we need you to play less video games, but here's

532
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: your contract. Because he was a freak talent. He's faster

533
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Speaker 1: than every guy when he steps on the field. He

534
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: has a massive arm. Despite being five to nine, he

535
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: can play at an elite level in the NFL. No

536
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: one has ever disputed his physical characteristics or his ability

537
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: to play football at a high level going back to

538
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Speaker 1: college when he transferred to Oklahoma and dominated so in

539
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: the NFL. Character matters, and when you have the talent,

540
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: all that intangible stuff, it can help separate you. I've

541
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 1: seen like with the forty nine ers, for example, George Kittle,

542
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: fifth round pick, but he's six foot four, six foot three.

543
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: He's one of the faster tight ends in the NFL.

544
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: He's one of the stronger tight ends in the NFL.

545
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: He loves football, his work ethics great. It's not shocking

546
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: looking back why he became a great player, but his

547
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: physical characteristics on top of the intangibles, helped him separate.

548
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones checks every box off the field, but on

549
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: the field he lacks a lot of them. He can't

550
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field. His decision making is

551
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: more than questionable. Honestly, for being a really smart guy,

552
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: I think he plays kind of dumb. And in scouting,

553
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: you have to be very careful about betting on the

554
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: guy when they're not a good enough player. Just like

555
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: you have to be very careful and betting against the

556
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: guy when they're an elite player. Why because young people mature,

557
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: Because people turn around their life. Because sometimes at twenty two,

558
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty four, you do dumb shit and you're

559
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: not a bad guy. Some people are bad guys. Like,

560
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: we don't live in some utopian society. No matter how

561
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: much some people in the media believe that that's what

562
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: ultimately this world can be. That's not going to be

563
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: the case. It never will be. Some people are just

564
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: awful people for whatever reason. I don't know why. We

565
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: all have different stories, but we've all The longer you live,

566
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: the more you realize, like, yeah, some people are just

567
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: not good people. But some people do something dumb when

568
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: they're young, and then immediately, like you look back ten

569
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: years later in their NFL career and they're off half

570
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: the draft boards and they're like, God, that's a really

571
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: impressive guy. It's like, well, yeah, turned his life around.

572
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: I think the best example is like Tyrone Matthew was

573
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: kicked out of college at LSU. He clearly, you know,

574
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: had some issues with authority and I'm not even ultimately

575
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: smoking synthetic weed. Who gives a shit. Now, at the

576
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: time it was a much bigger deal. But you don't

577
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: just get kicked off the team like there was some

578
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: stuff going on. And then he became the team captain

579
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: for literally every team he's ever played for, and it's

580
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna go down as like one of the great leaders

581
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: for every guy that he ever played with. I'm just

582
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: using him as an example because if you got his

583
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: character going into LSU and you gave it to your

584
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: GM and your head coach, I bet a lot of

585
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: people did not have him on the draft board. Where

586
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: Yet in the draft meeting, when you're talking about guys

587
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones, it's so easy to be like, this

588
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: is the type guy we want, this is the type

589
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: person you want to have in your building. Yet in

590
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: the second half on a Sunday night football game, when

591
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: you're playing a top five defense and he's getting his

592
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: ass kick because he's completely overwhelmed, that stuff doesn't matter.

593
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: And that to me is the difference at the highest

594
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: level of a business like football than a lot of ours,

595
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: where you can take a young guy and mold him

596
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: over time. Doesn't work that way in football because if

597
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: you're just simply not good enough. You can't overcome that,

598
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: especially at the quarterback position. And we go back to

599
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: when the Giants drafted him at number six. It was

600
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: insane because a guy with his talent level should never

601
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: be drafted in the first round. I've been saying this

602
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: forever about like the mac Jones version of player. Those

603
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: guys aren't first round talents. They should go in the

604
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: third and the fourth round. Daniel Jones in a perfect

605
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: world like good backup, and you know what, there's nothing

606
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: wrong with that. I was did a golf shoot yesterday

607
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: with my guy Luis, who's a good example. Like I

608
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: didn't know that much about him. Someone told me about him.

609
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: He's young, he's like twenty three, twenty four years old,

610
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: he's in the video business. Took a shot on him.

611
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: He's good. I'm betting on the guy. Obviously, he has

612
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: to have skills in the ed skills and he's got

613
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: a lot of them. But you just kind of betting

614
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: on the person. And going back to these quarterbacks to

615
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: get overdrafted, it's like they don't have the physical skills.

616
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: No matter how good of people they are, they're just

617
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: not good enough. And I think sometimes we get overwhelmed.

618
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: You know owners and gms by people, and it gets

619
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: them in these situations why they constantly lose. And I'm

620
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: not acting like you just need to get a team

621
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: full of idiots and slappies that are great players. Obviously,

622
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: character matters. Chiefs have won three Super Bowls in five years.

623
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: Their team is full of high level guys. As a

624
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: buddy told me within the last couple of months, that

625
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: works for the Chiefs. He's like Karlovskis and McDuffie are like,

626
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: it just doesn't get any better football character. So obviously

627
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: they have drafted really well and Chris Jones, Homes and

628
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: Kelsey's careers speak for themselves. The Patriots for twenty years,

629
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: for the most part, had I would call overachievers. I mean,

630
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: obviously they had a lot of talent, but they a

631
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: lot of their starters I think would fall under the

632
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: bucket of overachievers. Julian Edelman's a good example, but he

633
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: was still damn good at football. And the Giants found

634
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: themselves in this situation because they doubled down on a

635
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: player who simply wasn't good enough because he was a

636
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: great human being. Now, speaking of questionable human beings, everyone

637
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: is shitting on Woody Johnson. He is getting destroyed. An

638
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: article came out in The Athletic about this meeting that

639
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: he had. You know, obviously, Joe Douglas gets fired, and

640
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: then all these you know, stories get leaked and a

641
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: lot of people think that it's probably Joe Douglas telling

642
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: I also think that there's a chance that Diane or

643
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: Russini whoever had this information for a while. Once everyone

644
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: gets fired, you might as well just let it rip.

645
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going to defend Woody Johnson for being a

646
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: good owner. He's not. His resume of hiring people of

647
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: dysfunction kind of speaks for itself. But I also think

648
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: you can go to the other side of the coin

649
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: and go, well, if I was in his shoes after

650
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: we lost ten to nine at home to the Denver Broncos,

651
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't be happy either. And I don't think

652
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: calling a meeting with your coordinators and coaches is that crazy. Now.

653
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: I also understand that should you have a meeting every

654
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: single Monday, if you're an owner with your head coach,

655
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: probably could be a little tedious. And let's face it,

656
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: guys like Andy Reid, John Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh Kyle Shanahan,

657
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: Sean McVay ain't meeting with their owner every Monday. But

658
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: I also think if I'm Woody Johnson and I didn't

659
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: hire Robert Sala and Joe Douglas like coming into the season,

660
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to think are these guys

661
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: good at their job? I get Listen. I know a

662
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: lot of people with the Eagles that worked for Joe Douglas.

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00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: Most people really like him, think he's pretty impressive. He

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00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: also drafted Zack Wilson number two overall instead it's one

665
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: of the best workouts he's ever seen. Zack Wilson is

666
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: currently a third string quarterback in year four of his career.

667
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: He then doubled down on trading for Aaron Rodgers, who

668
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: the majority of the NFL wasn't interested in, and the

669
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers kind of fleeced him. Like that happened. Now,

670
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: did he draft some good players? Of course he did,

671
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: but he made some devastating moves when it came to

672
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback. He also is the guy that hired Robertson,

673
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: who like Joe Douglas. I've never heard anyone say a

674
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: bad word about Robert Sala. The guy people really really

675
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: like Robert sala his players, the coaches, people in the

676
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: forty nine ers front office. Robert Sala is really well liked.

677
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: Was he a good coach? Did he have any clue

678
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: what he was doing? Yes, he's a good defensive coordinator.

679
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: We know that he was with the forty nine Ers

680
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: the defenses were good. With the Jets, he wasn't the

681
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: Jets defensive coordinator. He was the head coach and the

682
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: team sucked. So him firing these two guys, Listen, is

683
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: firing your head coach and then six weeks later firing

684
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: your GM while they're still seven games to go in

685
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: the season. Bizarre, weird, dysfunctional. Of course it is. It's

686
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,959
Speaker 1: a head scratcher. I'm not acting like the Jets owner

687
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: as someone I would bet on if they were stock.

688
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: But I do think we have this narrative going on

689
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: right now that Woody is the reason everything failed. I

690
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: think this team failed because the head coach and the

691
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: GM sucked. Now there are also reports of he wanted

692
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers bench, or Woody Johnson said that in the

693
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: meeting and then under their breath the coaches laughed or

694
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: whatever I would imagine, and Belichick hit on this a

695
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Owners say crazy shit, of course

696
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: they do. Fans say crazy shit. I say crazy shit

697
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: all the time. Ultimately, he wasn't benched, And two they

698
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 1: traded a couple weeks later for the guy's best friend

699
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: where it's also been reported that Joe Douglas and the

700
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: Jets didn't really want to do that wood. He did it.

701
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: So I just think this whole thing is, why can't

702
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,240
Speaker 1: we just acknowledge this wood? He not a great owner.

703
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas average at best general manager, doesn't have a

704
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: great idea when it comes to quarterbacks, which, okay, he

705
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: can find Sauce Gardener. Think about his two best picks,

706
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardener and Garrett Wilson. It's like, geez, he found

707
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: that guy in the third round. Oh damn, he found

708
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson the fifth.

709
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: No.

710
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: Actually, uh, Sauce was the fourth overall pick and Garrett

711
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: Wilson was picked ten. So your two best picks were

712
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: in the top ten. Oh, Breeze Hall is really good too.

713
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Where'd he go the sixth? No, we got him at

714
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Speaker 1: the top of the second If your three best picks

715
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: are all really high picks like great. I hope you

716
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: hit on some guys high in the draft, Like, isn't

717
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: that your job? What about everybody else? And part of

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00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: hiring good coaches, Like we talk about this as a

719
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: GM a lot too. Your job is a draft? How

720
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: about the draft? How about the draft? Your job is

721
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: so much more than the fucking draft. The two most

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00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: important things you will ever do, And you could argue

723
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: they go hand in hand. Who you hire as your

724
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: coach and who you sign draft acquire as your quarterback.

725
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: Joe Douglass hired Robert Salap, who you never say never,

726
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: he's young, is not going to be a head coach

727
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL for the foreseeable future. He drafted Zach Wilson,

728
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: who probably out of the league in a couple of years,

729
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers, who it's probably fifty to fifty if

730
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: he ever plays a game after twenty twenty four. So

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Speaker 1: I think, just objectively speaking, we'd have to go he's

732
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: not very good, right, He's not very good? And Robert

733
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: sala Like everyone, it's so easy to just crush the

734
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: crazy owner, which I understand. If I was a fan,

735
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: I'd be like, we can fire everybody in the building.

736
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: We're stuck with that guy. It sucks. But I also

737
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: see a lot of people in the media like giving

738
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: these other two guys a pass, you know, like acting

739
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: like they were given the autonomy for a long period

740
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: of time to kind of do whatever they wanted to

741
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: do and they didn't get it right now, big picture,

742
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: all these stories doesn't help their ability to go hire people,

743
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: of course not do I think top candidates are going

744
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: to be interested. Yes, it's gonna be difficult. That's why

745
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: I think Rex Ryan, who desperately wants to come back

746
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: and who's already buddies with the you know, Woody Johnson

747
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: is the most I would say, uh, I would say

748
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: he has the best possibility of being a candidate that

749
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: like makes sense for everyone involved. One. He has a

750
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: resume of like kind of knows what he's doing. He

751
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: has success as a head coach with the Jets. Obviously

752
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna need some one to you know, it's going

753
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: to be very very difficult for them to hire some

754
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: no name coordinator and feel.

755
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: Good about it.

756
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: And this is probably a job where you want someone

757
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: that knows what they're doing, that has some experience. I

758
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: think he makes a lot of sense. But man, I

759
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: just some of these conversations that are being had, like

760
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: it's it's Woody coaching the team, or Woody Johnson was

761
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: the one pounding the table for Zach Wilson. I don't know, man,

762
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: Like I say the same thing about the Raiders all

763
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: the time. Are do the Raiders have good ownership? Of

764
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: course not. They have been a disaster under Mark Davis,

765
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: a disaster. But he's not coaching the team. He's not

766
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: the guy calling the defensive coverages for the last ten years.

767
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: He's not the guy running this offense. Does he hire

768
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: the wrong people? Of course, but those people that he

769
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: hires are clearly completely over their head. San Antonio be

770
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: the coach? Probably not. He's not any good. Is he

771
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: gonna get fired? A lot of people in the league

772
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: think he's going to. Is it Mark Davis's fault that

773
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: he like listened to some of his star players? I

774
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I think being an owner for

775
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: these teams, like did how much credit? Obviously Robert Craft

776
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: really liked Bill Belichick when he was an assistant coach

777
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: for him, Not in a million years. When that thing

778
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: happened with the Jets and he became the head coach,

779
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: of the Patriots that Robert Craft ever thought he would

780
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: have six Super Bowls. There's always an element of luck

781
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: when you hire these people. Now he identified them, he

782
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: liked them, But like, I just think sometimes you know,

783
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: as an owner, hiring people like it's kind of a

784
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: gut feel, and a lot of times in this profession,

785
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: probably more than a lot, they speak a language. They

786
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: speak Chinese and you speak Spanish. You ants speak football.

787
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: You don't know the plays, you don't really understand scheme

788
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: no one does. Interviewing Brian d a Ball and interviewing

789
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, interviewing whoever and having them talk intricate football

790
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: thoughts are just going to go over your head no

791
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: matter how smart of a guy you are. Look at

792
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: David Tepper, He's one of the greatest businessmen in his

793
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: field in the history of finance. He has no clue

794
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Why because he can't hire the right people,

795
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: because unlike hiring some trader or a CFO or a

796
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: chief marketing guy, hiring a football coach or a GM

797
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: has no parallels to anything he's gonna know. So I

798
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: guess he's a long winded way of saying of like

799
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: you just got to hire someone and hope you get

800
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: it right, you know, and you could say some people

801
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: get it right more often than not. Clearly the Rooneys

802
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: have a good gut instinct. But like and they get

803
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: credit from hiring Mike Tomlin, but they would over cocktails

804
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: have to be the first to acknowledge that. Like listen,

805
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: we really liked him. He blew us away in the interview.

806
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: We never thought he was gonna be this good. I mean,

807
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: clearly the Rams really like Sean McVay. He's a smart guy, young, hungry,

808
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: full of energy, looks the part you know, ten percent

809
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: body fat would run through a wall, comes from a

810
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: football family. Everyone saying his praises, so we just kind

811
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: of bet on the guy. It's clearly gone a way

812
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: better than even they would have acknowledged at the time.

813
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: Like they would never have said, like, this guy is

814
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: gonna lead us to a super Bowl and go to another.

815
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: You would never say that at the moment you hired him,

816
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: because every time that you think that, turns out the

817
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: guy is gonna be Joe Judge. There's just a randomness

818
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: to this all. That's what makes it so fun. You know,

819
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: it's Fugazi Friday and there's a lot going on right

820
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: now with Fugazi Friday. I just want to do a

821
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: rapid fire because there's a couple of things I want

822
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: to hit on. First, there's a class action lawsuit right

823
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: now against Netflix for the Jake Paul fight, and you know,

824
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: the streaming issues, the whole thing, And it just shows

825
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: you that you can literally file a lawsuit for anything,

826
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 1: because we talked about this earlier in the week. If

827
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: you are one, it's just a classic money grab. You're

828
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: going after this multi billion dollar company hoping to get

829
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: a settlement. I hope you lose because no one forced

830
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: you to watch that. And One, it was essentially free

831
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: given that the overwhelming majority of people I guess not

832
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: majority of people, but a large percentage of people in

833
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: this country have Netflix. It's not a pay per view event,

834
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: and you did not have to watch it. But if

835
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: you were to get part of a class action lawsuit

836
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: against Netflix, I guess this is the best way to

837
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: give my opinion on this. I think you're a loser.

838
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: I think, deep down you are a massive, massive loser. Two,

839
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: I was I saw today that Pat McAfee had on

840
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: this young quarterback in high school who I guess a

841
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: five star kid from Georgia who had offers from everybody,

842
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: and he was making his commitment on McAfee show and

843
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: he chose and it was Colorado. Did a pretty cool

844
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: video of Shador handing him the keys that he's going

845
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: to Colorado, and I was thinking about what giants, Fugazi.

846
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: These commitments in college football are now if you're a

847
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: fan of that team, Because before if you've got a

848
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: commitment and the guy signed with your team and come

849
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: either he's an early enroller or he's going to come

850
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: in the summer, there was like a five percent chance

851
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: that guy was going to be in your program as

852
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: long as he played right, If he was a great player,

853
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: it might only be three years. For the overwhelming majority

854
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: of players, it would be four or five years. That

855
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: guy would be a Colorado Buffalo, a Nebraska Cornhusker, a

856
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: USC Trojan. He's not even guaranteed to be on your

857
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: team in twenty twenty five. I'll give you a couple scenarios.

858
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: If Dion were to leave to Colorado, he could transfer

859
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: to anywhere he wanted. If Dion were to leave to

860
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: program X to coach it next year, he would go

861
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: with him just like the star left tackle that was

862
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: one of the highest rated guys that currently is their

863
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: starting left tackle number seventy seven would also be gone.

864
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: So your team that you have right now of returners

865
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: and guys that are going to commit, if Dion leaves,

866
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: they're gone. They are all gone. So I think forever,

867
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: Like picking up a hat and making a commitment was

868
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: cool because like, damn, this guy's going to Oregon, his

869
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: kids going to Bama. I'll never forget when land In

870
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: Collins remember the safety pretty sure he's from Louisiana the

871
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: under Armour All American Game if I remember correctly, and

872
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: he had the LSU hat and the Alabama hat and

873
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: he picked up the Alabama hat where obviously he played

874
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: for Nick Saban and his mother was not very happy.

875
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 1: She wanted him to go to LSU well, and obviously

876
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: he just played his entire career. Yeah, like wherever you committed,

877
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: that's where you played. But now with the transfer portal,

878
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: none of that matters at all. Someone told me a

879
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: story recently about a kid that was an early enrolly

880
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: at you know, coming out of high school. So he's

881
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: an early enrollly basically instead of having your spring semester

882
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: in high school, you graduate early, and you're in that

883
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: program for spring practice, and he was in the transfer

884
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: portal after spring practice. Wasn't even technically a college freshman yet,

885
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: so to act like any of this means anything. Again,

886
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: the social media video was cool, Shador handed him the keys.

887
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter said today, like I'm going to the NFL. Travis,

888
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: we knew that. But like, and I'm not a huge

889
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: recruiting guy, never really have been since leaving college football.

890
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: But anyone trying to act like these recruiting signings mean

891
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: much in twenty twenty four slash twenty five, I just

892
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: got to push back because it just doesn't. And then

893
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: I was also, I'm gonna end with this. The Sixers

894
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: being two and twelve is really really funny. And you know,

895
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you know Joebi, who is the article,

896
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: and the story just came out that he was literally

897
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: late to practice and late to basketball related things. And

898
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: this is a man that cried several years ago after

899
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: losing and claimed recently as recently, probably within the last month,

900
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: maybe even less than that, that people talking shit. It's

901
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: bs because of everything he's done for the city of Philadelphia.

902
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: I am glad that the process, which I think started

903
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: a movement in the NBA that has definitely played a

904
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: part in the interest in the sport, which has been

905
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: diminished in terms of people watching the games dramatically. They've

906
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: lost a lot of the audience. I do think that

907
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: the Sixers were the most upfront about it. They fully

908
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: tanked that they are not alone. Other teams has done

909
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: it as well. They were the most i would say

910
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 1: aggressive multiple years, refusing to sign veteran players and just sucked.

911
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: And it's led to where they're at now currently two

912
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: and twelve, and I think I heard someone say they're

913
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: like plus, they're like two to one right now currently

914
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. I mean, this was a team

915
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: that people thought could win the NBA Finals. And I

916
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: think anytime where your number one goal, especially when it

917
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: comes to sports, is not everything we have to do

918
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: to win? What do we have to do to win?

919
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: And obviously, unlike football, in basketball and baseball, sometimes you're

920
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: cool with losing a game. You have eighty two games,

921
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two games, like not every game matters.

922
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: That speaks true to when I was a kid and

923
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was playing eighty one games or eighty two games, right,

924
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: if he lost one, it wasn't the end of the world.

925
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,479
Speaker 1: This is not football. But for a long period of time,

926
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: winning just was not important. And I think it's impossible

927
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: to flip the switch, right when things that matter always

928
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: kind of matter to those who are very serious about things.

929
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: And I think it's fair to say that the environment

930
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: that this organization I would say, raised their best player

931
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: in had a lot of things that didn't matter, and

932
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: now has manifested itself into some of his comments before

933
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: the season started. And that's the one thing I think

934
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: when you look at football and it's I mean, it's

935
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: always been popular, but it's separation and popularity that even

936
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: when teams really really suck. I think the thing is

937
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: why everyone makes fun of the Jets and Giants as

938
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: you're like, they're really trying, like the Cowboys Monday Night

939
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: Football against the Eagles, like they tried as hard as

940
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: humanly possible. They were not trying to lose that game.

941
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: They did not want to get blown out by the Eagles.

942
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: They were desperately trying to keep that thing close. Against

943
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: the Dexans, it just wasn't humanly possible for them to

944
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: do it yet. I think in basketball, you go, yeah,

945
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 1: this team didn't try for a long period of time,

946
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: and then they've acknowledged some games they'll just take off.

947
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: And I think that has a carryover effect. And I

948
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: think the Sixers have become one of the great examples

949
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: of one of the biggest fugazi's in the history of sports.

950
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: A lot of hype, a lot of talk, and not

951
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: much to show up for themselves. And I think Joel

952
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: Embiid is really the poster child of kind of the movement,

953
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: and it's kind of sad and embarrassing. Okay, back at

954
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: it again with my main man, Stucky from the Action Network.

955
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: You can find him on subscribe to his podcast Big

956
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: Bets on Campus. You can find him on the Action

957
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: Network podcast. You can find him on the YouTube streets

958
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: bullshitting about betting because that's what he does and he's

959
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: a man deep in it and knows a shit. And

960
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: he told me a pretty interesting stat about a team

961
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: that somehow he's still loyal to. I was very loyal

962
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: to them about halfway through the season. I had to

963
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: jump off. Your Titan stat was pretty interesting because you

964
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: watch them, you go, they're not terrible. I mean, they're

965
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna end up with a top two or three

966
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: or four pick. But they have been more competitive than

967
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: some of these other teams. Like they're better right now

968
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: than this version of the Dallas Cowboys, or they're better

969
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: than the Tua List Dolphins, who are obviously two separate teams.

970
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: But we have seen some awful teams. I don't quite

971
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: put the Titans there. Their quarterback plays bad, but they

972
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: don't win and they also don't do something else.

973
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, they the Tens are one and nine against the spread.

974
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 4: They don't cover. That is a rarity in the NFL.

975
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: They haven't been a favorite in any game, right.

976
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 4: They were a favorite against the Patriots. They should have

977
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 4: covered that game. I think they closed minus three and

978
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 4: a half and the Patriots scored on the last play

979
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 4: of the game, the fourth overtime, then they won by three.

980
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 4: I had them in that game minus three and a half. So, yeah,

981
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: they're one and nine against the spread. That rarely happens

982
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 4: NFL pretty official market. Like we're talking about against the

983
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 4: close closing line too, And the only other team to

984
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 4: do that over the past thirty years to be that

985
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 4: bad against the number through eleven weeks was the two

986
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 4: thousand and seven Ravens. I remember them well as the

987
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 4: Kyle Bowler Ravens. Last year of Brian Billock, they went

988
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: five and eleven. It was a bad team. That was

989
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 4: the year before bar Ball and Flacco ended up coming

990
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 4: to town. So, yeah, they rarely cover. I've been burned

991
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 4: by them a bunch. They get so unlucky in how

992
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 4: they don't cover too. I mean, this is going all

993
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 4: the way back to I had them Week one against

994
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 4: the Bears, catching four and a half and they were

995
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 4: up seventeen to nothing and the Bears covered without scoring

996
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 4: an offensive touchdown. They had a punt blocked, they had

997
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 4: Will Levis with a Asen nine throw. I mean, they've

998
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 4: they've found ways.

999
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: Last week I had had him in that as well

1000
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: as the Jags money line against the Dolphins. That was

1001
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: That was a rough start to the twenty twenty four season.

1002
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of the worst NFL beats I've

1003
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 4: ever had in my life. To not not only lose

1004
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 4: that game out right, to not cover four and a

1005
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 4: half was insane. You know that they've just found ways

1006
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 4: to not cover. If they've been pretty on, like their

1007
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 4: special teams have cost them a bunch.

1008
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: Of affairs to the Titans that week one game would

1009
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: be like you going on date one with the girl

1010
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm also a stripper. Like they told

1011
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: you who they were, and they have pretty consistently kind

1012
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: of rode that out. It's not like that was an

1013
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: anomaly game in this one to nine experience. I mean

1014
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: that was I think that game kind of sums up

1015
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: their season, doesn't it.

1016
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, just but they've also had things like out of

1017
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 4: their control that have cost them. And so I bet

1018
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 4: them this week plus eight and a half against the Texans.

1019
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 4: Shortly the Texans. I think it'll be a really low

1020
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 4: scoring game. These are two slow paced teams. The Titans

1021
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 4: defense is still good. They're playing really well. I mean,

1022
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 4: if you look the past two weeks, they you know,

1023
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 4: from a net from a yards per play perspective, they

1024
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 4: outplayed the Vikings and the Chargers. They outgained both, held

1025
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 4: him to under five yards per play. Not many people

1026
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 4: probably saw the game last week against and I didn't

1027
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 4: have any money on the Titans against the Vikings. Probably

1028
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 4: the worst officiated game I've ever seen in my life.

1029
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I've never seen one team get royally screwed

1030
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 4: over as much as the Titans did. I'm talking touchdowns

1031
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 4: called back on illegal formations, a fourth down stop where

1032
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 4: there was the worst rough unnecessary roughness call I've ever

1033
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 4: seen on just like a shoulder to the chest ASD nine,

1034
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 4: Like that was the worst officiated game I've seen. Calaham

1035
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 4: was going ballistic on the sidelines the.

1036
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: Entire I saw I had the red zone on and

1037
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: they flipped in on that game. He went nuts. Yeah,

1038
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know what I had it muted,

1039
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: so I didn't quite know what he was getting mad at.

1040
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 4: I think that one that they showed was the fourth

1041
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 4: down stop when they called it unnecessarily rough. That was

1042
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: one of the worst calls I've ever seen in my life,

1043
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 4: you know, so they were they should have covered that game.

1044
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 4: Will Levis is playing better since he returned to the lineup.

1045
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 4: He was also asked, like, have you seen any improvement

1046
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 4: since returning for injury? He said, yeah, I haven't thrown

1047
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 4: the ball underhand or chess passed it, so that's an improvement.

1048
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 4: Uh So, I kind of like that comment for little

1049
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 4: self deprecating humor. But he's he's around like twentieth and

1050
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 4: adjusted EPA per play over the past two weeks, and

1051
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 4: he's played the Vikings and Chargers, two really good defenses,

1052
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 4: you know, and twentieth it's not great, but when he's

1053
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 4: playing two really good defenses, and in the beginning of

1054
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 4: the year he's one of the worst right at the bottom.

1055
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 4: And over the past two weeks, Stroud is basically same

1056
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 4: adjusted EPA per play as Lewis and he got to

1057
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 4: play the Cowboys. This Texans offense, it's just broken right now.

1058
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 4: And you know, I know that they had the blowout

1059
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 4: win over Dallas. I think that had more to do

1060
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 4: with Dallas than used to. And they can't block in

1061
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 4: the interior at all. I mean their left guard position

1062
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 4: in particular, just the turnstile. The kind of the head

1063
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 4: of the snake of their offense right now is Joe Mixon.

1064
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 4: And you know, they got Nico Collins back, which will help,

1065
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 4: will probably provide a couple explosive plays, but Titans do

1066
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 4: a really good job of limiting exposive plays. And the

1067
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 4: Titans rundy is really good and the strength of that

1068
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 4: defense is in the interior of the defensive line. Yeah,

1069
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 4: so you know you have sweat and Simmons. They're going

1070
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 4: to cause chaos against this Texans offense. Stroud has not

1071
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 4: been great as a favorite this Texans team. They get

1072
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 4: too conservative, the play calling isn't great. So I think

1073
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 4: this will be really low scoring. Like Levis is going

1074
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 4: to take sacks too. I mean, Lewis is basically playing

1075
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 4: without a right tackle. The right tackle situation in Tennessee

1076
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 4: is as bad as I've ever seen. Any petite ferrer

1077
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 4: is a bust. They try to put him in and

1078
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 4: they end up taking him out. They had this guy

1079
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 4: Earnest for getting. You know, I forget not Ernest Jones,

1080
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: but I forget his name. That he was hurt. He's terrible.

1081
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: That's a crazy ass position switch.

1082
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, last week they elevated the guy from the practice

1083
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 4: squad and put him in there. He was so bad. So,

1084
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 4: I mean, Levis is taking twelve sacks over the best

1085
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 4: two games. He takes a lot of sacks. There's gonna

1086
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 4: be a lot of negative plays in this game, not

1087
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 4: a lot of explosive. I think it'd be lower scoring,

1088
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 4: which gives more value to the dog And you know,

1089
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 4: Titans defense I think will keep them in this game.

1090
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 4: They're due to just get some breaks like not have

1091
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 4: everything on special teams, not have everything go wrong with

1092
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 4: the refs. These are both too heavily penalized teams, so

1093
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 4: maybe that washes out. And yeah, I just think this

1094
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 4: is too many points for a divisional game. I took

1095
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 4: the Titans. It's scary though, but yeah, you rarely see this.

1096
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 4: NFL is so efficient. You really seven one in nine

1097
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 4: against the spread.

1098
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: While I was texting with the all Eyes here provided

1099
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: by DraftKings On, one of my good buddies out in

1100
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: Arizona actually works for them, and he's like, uh, you know,

1101
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: takes care of some of their whales and VIP clients,

1102
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, we've had you know, it's

1103
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: been a crazy year, right because there have been some

1104
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: of these moments. It's why, like, as a better the

1105
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 1: first thing I do when I'm getting ready to talk

1106
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: to you or just kind of you know, look at

1107
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: the board even earlier in the week is who the

1108
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: Jets play. And obviously they're not playing this week, so

1109
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: that's disappointing. But I think piggybacking off that we talked

1110
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: about last week, you know, going all in on the Colts,

1111
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: and it's one of the biggest bets I've made this season.

1112
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: And I got to be honest with you, when I

1113
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: was twenty four to sixteen and Anthony Richardson had had

1114
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: this bad fumble on a delayed blitz, I was getting nervous.

1115
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: Now the cream rises and we were proven right over time.

1116
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: But one thing I've learned from you over the years

1117
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: is those those teams that score like an enormous point

1118
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: total the next week against the spread, and the Lions

1119
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: have now done this twice, right, I mean, how many

1120
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: teams in NFL history, or at least modern day NFL history,

1121
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: have scored fifty two points twice in a season, let

1122
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: alone basically twice in a month. I mean, it's it's

1123
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: pretty unheard of. I don't give a shit who you're playing.

1124
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: And obviously they did it to two of the worst

1125
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: teams in the league. That is that's insane. But I

1126
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: do think getting an enormous dog at home some momentum. Listen.

1127
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: I was as critical and is out on Anthony Richardson

1128
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: as anyone, but reading some of the quotes, and I

1129
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: have a buddy who's you know, works for a team now,

1130
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: but he's he's been a part of a team that won.

1131
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: I think he's got like three or four rinks, and

1132
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, when the Anthony Richardson stuff happened,

1133
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: He's like, I'll defend him a little bit. He's like,

1134
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: if this was you know, Joe el Embi showing up late,

1135
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: it's like, bro, you're thirty years old. It's like this

1136
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: guy's twenty two. He's barely played. He's like, it's not

1137
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: as crazy as I think people are making it out

1138
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: to be. He's not doing this if like cause he's

1139
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: a slap or malicious, Like I don't even think he

1140
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: knows what he doesn't know. And then everything that's happened

1141
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: in these two weeks, what's come out of Like maybe

1142
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 1: it was an enormous wake up call for him, and

1143
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: he led two of the best drives sucky I think

1144
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,959
Speaker 1: in his football playing career, not just like this year.

1145
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm talking ever, because he hasn't played that much. So

1146
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: they got a little momentum, they got a little life. Also,

1147
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, you just historically just short teams like the Lions,

1148
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: not I don't know if they're gonna lose this game,

1149
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: but getting over a touchdown coming off that win that

1150
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: they got another big injury. I do defend Dan Campbell, like,

1151
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: this is not the NBA or even baseball, where you

1152
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: can just you only have so many guys dressed on

1153
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: game day. I can't just take all five in my

1154
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. You only have six wide receivers and a couple,

1155
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, two or three running backs. It's not as

1156
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: easy as like, why your starter's still in there. This

1157
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: isn't college. We don't have eighty five guys and pads

1158
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: on the sideline. There's there's really only so much you

1159
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: can do, right, So it's kind of a tough spot.

1160
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm not critical of him at all

1161
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: on that, but he has lost some players in these

1162
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: games where it's in a preseason game, they'd all be

1163
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: on the sideline, but you just you don't have the numbers.

1164
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: So that's a long winded way of saying, I'm taking

1165
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: the colsplus seven and a half. You got to ride

1166
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: the hot hand.

1167
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. This is I'm hoping that Bernard Raymond,

1168
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 4: their left tackle plays. Otherwise, you have three rookie offensive

1169
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 4: linemen in there, again, which is an ideal, but at

1170
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 4: least it's a second game playing together, which is important.

1171
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 4: For continuity. But yeah, this line's defense, it has injuries.

1172
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 4: They also haven't really been tested. Like if you look

1173
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 4: at who they played, like it's Mac Jones, it's Jordan

1174
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 4: Love who was banged up with his groin injury. You

1175
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 4: know when they played the Seahawks they were so hurt,

1176
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 4: the Cowboys when they were so hurt. So I think

1177
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 4: this defense is a bit more vulnerable than their numbers

1178
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 4: would indicate. You know, you go back to like that

1179
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 4: Minnesota game. Minnesota was able to move the ball at

1180
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 4: will against them, and then you have these injuries. So

1181
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 4: and I was really impressed with Richardson last week. It

1182
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 4: was his best game by a country mile throwing the ball.

1183
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 4: So I think they can have some success here on

1184
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 4: the ground against the Lions front seven that has been

1185
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 4: hit hard by injuries. And I think they can have

1186
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 4: some success through the air, and Lion's played a time

1187
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 4: to cover one. I think that's a defense that Richardson's

1188
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 4: going to have success against with his legs and his arm,

1189
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 4: hitting some explosive plays downfield. And the Colts defense is healthy,

1190
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 4: they're like it. They've been playing like a slightly above

1191
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 4: average unit when they're fully healthy. And what did they do.

1192
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 4: They play less man coverage than any team in the NFL.

1193
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 4: We know what you're going to get with the Colts.

1194
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 4: Jared Goff this year against man coverage has been an

1195
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 4: absolute menace. He's I got one forty five quarterback rating,

1196
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 4: like I think eleven touchdowns no interceptions against. Zoni has

1197
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 4: more interceptions than touchdowns, like an eighty nine rating. You

1198
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 4: want to zone this Lion's offense. Their offense is going

1199
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 4: to be tremendous regardless. But that's the Colts play the

1200
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 4: ideal scheme.

1201
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,919
Speaker 1: Do you think that's because like it's just really hard

1202
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: to cover. You know, Saint Brown's an excellent receiver. Laporta

1203
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: gets open Jamison so fast. They just create separation. It

1204
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: means that you're it's just such.

1205
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 4: A well schemed offense. You're not gonna be able to

1206
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 4: stick with their receivers and all of their rubs, and

1207
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 4: it's you're just gonna get lost. So you have to

1208
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 4: play zone. It's the only only shot you have. And

1209
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 4: so that helps a bit. And yeah, they're coming off

1210
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 4: a win. They're coming off of fifty two to ten

1211
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 4: win generally speaking, And you mentioned how rare is that

1212
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 4: it's pretty rare for teams to score fifty twice. They

1213
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 4: scored fifty two twice in back to back home games.

1214
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 4: That's only been done three other times in NFL story.

1215
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 4: I think like the pack I think the Packers in

1216
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 4: the fifties, the Cowboys in the sixties, and twenty fourteen

1217
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 4: Hackers the only teams to do that. But teams that

1218
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 4: win by thirty five or more points the next week,

1219
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 4: they're usually overinflated. Like I don't think this line should

1220
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 4: be over a touchdown, and I think that's part of

1221
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 4: the reason why we're getting it. And the lines have

1222
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 4: obviously been a wagon against the spread, but teams following

1223
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 4: a win by thirty five or more points historically around

1224
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 4: like thirty nine forty against the spread when favored by

1225
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 4: four or more around thirty six percent, So it's been

1226
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 4: a good bet to go against those teams. So yeah,

1227
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 4: I think this is too many points. It's also not

1228
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 4: the best spot just on paper. So if there was

1229
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 4: ever a spot where the Lions might come out a

1230
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 4: bit flat, it would be this one. They just put

1231
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 4: up fifty two. They're rolling. Now you're going on the

1232
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 4: road for a non conference game and you have a

1233
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 4: divisional opponent on deck for Thanksgiving on a short week,

1234
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 4: probably put some time into preparing for that this week.

1235
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 4: And the Colts meanwhile in full desperation mode.

1236
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,959
Speaker 1: That's the biggest is that the Bears on Thanksgiving.

1237
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, Thanksgiving slates, the epenon slate is awful, especially the

1238
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 4: Bears lose to the Vikings this week. And then but yeah,

1239
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 4: the Cooper rush versus Danny DeVito.

1240
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: Danny DeVito well, because remember we like them after they

1241
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: score fifty two against the Jags. But looking back, like

1242
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: that Packer game outside and hearing Dan after that was

1243
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: a big proving ground for them because his whole thing

1244
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: was like we wanted approve to everyone that fucking bring

1245
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: on the rain, the snow, the sleet, the win, Like

1246
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: we're not a Dome team. That was an and divisional opponent.

1247
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, the team, you know, they're

1248
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: they chase in that division. I know Minnesota has a

1249
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: better record, but you hold yourself up against the Packers

1250
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: if you're the Lions, not the Viking. So that was

1251
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that was like I would say, their biggest

1252
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: game of the year, right, Yeah.

1253
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 4: But also love he was not up. He threw a

1254
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 4: pick six at the end of the first half. The

1255
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 4: Lions were out gained by like two hundred yards, and

1256
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 4: they deserve to win that game. But it wasn't like

1257
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 4: some juggernaut performance. You know, this is still a team

1258
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 4: that scored what and I think they're and there. They've

1259
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 4: always been under airon gun, they're vulnerable to running quarterbacks,

1260
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 4: so I think that's important here with the way they

1261
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 4: rushed the passer, and I think we're just gonna have

1262
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 4: some success with his legs. So yeah, I think that

1263
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 4: this is it's just too many points. I know the

1264
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 4: lines are tough to fade, but I think it's a

1265
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 4: good spot, good number, and good matchup on both sides

1266
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 4: of the ball for various reasons. So yeah, as long

1267
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 4: as Vickerson doesn't make too many mistakes, I think the

1268
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 4: Colts will stay within summer And by the way, all

1269
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 4: the Colts do all change. Steichen does play close games.

1270
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 4: Every one of their games.

1271
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: Is good team, bad team, doesn't matter.

1272
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 4: They it's just a one possession game, which obviously is

1273
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 4: important if you're catching seven and a half.

1274
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: I would say if we just circled fifteen to twenty

1275
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: of the top games this season, this game, hell, it

1276
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: might have cracked the top six or seven. Niners at

1277
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: Green Bay's changed a little bit. I mean, I would

1278
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: say the Packers have been a roller coaster, partly because

1279
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,759
Speaker 1: of Love's health and the Niners. For all the teams

1280
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 1: that we thought were gonna be awesome, I would say

1281
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: have had one of the more disappointing seasons. You know,

1282
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: they're five and five, but it feels like they're two

1283
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: to eight. And I saw a boast to say yesterday,

1284
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, we're just really just a couple of plays

1285
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: away from being eight and two, and he's not wrong,

1286
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: but it's like, yeah, I mean, part of the you

1287
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: deserve to be five and five because the games you're blowing,

1288
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: and part of it's just health, you know. Kittle, all

1289
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, the forty nine Ers, because

1290
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: they're an older team, they have guys on the injury report.

1291
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: I don't pay that much attention to it. It's like, Oh,

1292
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna play, this guy's gonna play, this guy's

1293
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 1: gonna play, unless it's something serious like McCaffrey. Throughout the season,

1294
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: but like all of a sudden, Kittle just on Saturday Night,

1295
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: Chefter tweets he's not playing. That's a pretty big deal.

1296
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,959
Speaker 1: That was my guy. David Lombardi, who covers the team,

1297
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: said that their average separation per route last game was like,

1298
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,520
Speaker 1: well under three yards. It was by far the smallest

1299
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, Juwan Jennings is our best

1300
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 1: receiver right now, he doesn't it's not like he's fast,

1301
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: doesn't get open. Deebo cannot get away from anyone. If

1302
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: Kittle's gone, it really limits their passing game. But like

1303
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: I look, yesterday the line was two and a half. Today,

1304
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: the line this morning on DraftKings was the Niners plus

1305
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: one and a half. This is kind of I mean,

1306
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: they play Ackering Bay at Buffalo. Obviously, you lose both

1307
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: your seasons. They're just done. They're not gonna win the division,

1308
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: they're not gonna make the playoffs. If you go one

1309
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: and one in these two games, you're six and six.

1310
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: Maybe you go on a run get to ten and seven,

1311
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 1: but like you got to win one of these two games.

1312
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: And to me, this is their best chance. They have

1313
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: a better chance to win this game than they do

1314
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: at Buffalo. Just they've played Green Bay very very well

1315
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: for a long period of time. And it's not like

1316
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: Jordan love is exactly. You know, Brett Farvar, Aaron Rodgers

1317
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 1: in his prime right now. But I have a hard time, man.

1318
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: I got burned a couple weeks ago Tampa. Last week, Seattle,

1319
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: I just wasn't gonna touch. I'm like, yeah, the Niners

1320
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: should win this game by ten plus they own Geno,

1321
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: but fuck this and then they lose the game. You know,

1322
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I want to take the forty

1323
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: nine ers, but they've really, they've really given me trust issues, Stucky,

1324
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: So what's your take on this?

1325
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they are close, They're there. I agree

1326
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 4: with that sentiment that.

1327
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: They might be out, which would be a problem.

1328
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bosa's a would be a big blow. That's Seattle's

1329
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 4: most successful offensive drives are when he had to go

1330
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 4: to the sideline and their pressure rates went way down

1331
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 4: this game. It's it's tough for me to crack me

1332
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 4: with all the injury uncertainty with San Francisco and Bosa

1333
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 4: is a big piece of that. But Kitt'll also you know,

1334
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 4: even Trent Williams dealing with an.

1335
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: Injury sounds like Kittle's gonna play. The way Kyle talked

1336
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: about Bosa and Trent a little more worry. I would

1337
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: guess Trent plays. I think Bosa's definitely in question. I

1338
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: mean he was in a lot of pain.

1339
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about Purdy, I mean he's he also has

1340
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 4: like a little shoulder and he's gonna play. But so

1341
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 4: they're just beat up. I think it's a good spot

1342
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 4: for them. I mean, look, they're sty we are so

1343
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,799
Speaker 4: close to being eighty two. Like you lose a kicker

1344
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 4: against Arizona, you blow a ten point lead, You blow

1345
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 4: the ten point lead, and part of it's their own

1346
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 4: fault with special teams like the Rams. Part of that

1347
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 4: was special team the Cardinals, with special teams on that

1348
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 4: side of your control. You lose your kicker, but you know,

1349
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 4: you blow this game against Seattle. I mean, I could

1350
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 4: go on and on about how close this team has been.

1351
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 4: On top of that, you've had the injuries, like go

1352
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:13,759
Speaker 4: to the Chiefs game, you lose all of your weapons

1353
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 4: at once. And and then also the red zone. This

1354
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 4: is a team historically that's been dominant, but last year

1355
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,759
Speaker 4: they're a number one in the NFL in the red zone.

1356
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 4: This year they're one of the worst. I would think

1357
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 4: that that that's a high variance stat over short samplelized.

1358
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,560
Speaker 4: I would think that that stabilizes, so I wouldn't be

1359
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 4: surprised if they go on a run here in the

1360
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 4: red zone, especially with McCaffrey back, and it's a team

1361
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 4: that can run and pass like they should be good

1362
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 4: in the red zone. So yeah, they've They've just had

1363
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 4: a lot of things to go against them, and some

1364
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 4: of it is just their own fault.

1365
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: So I think I saw a picture of Lambo today

1366
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: and it was snowing, So I don't know if that

1367
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: benefits Historically, it would benefit the Niners because they just

1368
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: want a ground, pound and play defense. But I don't know.

1369
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I think I know. I don't think it

1370
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 4: would be a huge evan for either team here. Yeah,

1371
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 4: so I lean forty nine ers on the spot. They

1372
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 4: do a good job of taking away explosive plays, which

1373
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 4: you need to do against Green Bay. An interesting nugget here,

1374
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 4: but I probably can't get I'm probably not going to

1375
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 4: get involved an interesting nugget with and by and by

1376
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 4: the way, the Packers have been the opposite of the

1377
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 4: forty nine ers. I mean they've been pretty fortunate and

1378
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 4: I mean you look at their you know, they just

1379
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 4: beat the Bears on a block field goal.

1380
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: They didn't three. Would you agree with that? Last week?

1381
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: They did not like. Last week was not a good

1382
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: performance for them.

1383
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 4: Now Love has been off, i'd been off. I don't

1384
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 4: I don't like. I know he's been dealing with some stuff.

1385
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 4: But you know, they beat the Jags by three, the

1386
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 4: Texans by two, So their last three wins have come

1387
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 4: by a combined six points. And you know, so they've

1388
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 4: been a bit fortunate. So these these records could easily

1389
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 4: be flipped. But the injury on so indeed, but the

1390
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 4: forty nine ers makes it a pass for me as

1391
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 4: of now. An interesting nugget that might go unnoticed by

1392
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 4: some is the the Matt Lafleur, But I think it's

1393
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 4: a really good coach. He hired Robert Sala a couple

1394
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:22,560
Speaker 4: of weeks ago as an offensive assistant or an advisor,

1395
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 4: so I'm sure part of that had to do with

1396
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 4: this game on his mind. So yeah, Sala is part

1397
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 4: of the Packer staff. Obviously a lot of familiarity.

1398
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 1: There, decent chances though Sala hasn't watched much film this week.

1399
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: He's him and Douglas around a bender somewhere at a

1400
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,480
Speaker 1: bar for the last three days.

1401
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 4: That's probably true. So yeah, this is if I had

1402
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 4: a bet it, I probably bet the forty nine ers,

1403
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 4: but as of now it's a pass I got. I

1404
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 4: need more clarity on the injury situation and why bet

1405
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 4: on good teams when I've already said I bet on

1406
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 4: the Titans, the Colts, and I also bet on I

1407
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 4: was called him Danny Debuto. I bet on Tommy Tommy DeVito,

1408
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 4: who's awful, but so is Daniel Jones. Bucks aren't healthy,

1409
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 4: Lang six in New York. I can't get there, and

1410
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 4: Tristan Wurss I think is gonna miss one of the

1411
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 4: best tackles in football. Baker Mayfield under pressure not as good.

1412
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 4: The Giants defensive line can dominate this game. That's their

1413
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 4: biggest strength, and without Worfs, it's a very vulnerable offensive line.

1414
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 4: So reluctantly I also played the Giants, but that's a

1415
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:28,879
Speaker 4: hold your note as special.

1416
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: I'd say one game, and we mentioned this last week,

1417
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: taking Vegas at Miami. The seven points just was screaming

1418
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: at you to take Vegas. But it's like, under no circumstances,

1419
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of like the Titans, I just can't bet on Vegas.

1420
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: Seems crazy. Denver on the road, I'll probably be like

1421
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: a Bronco home game, and the Broncos up until this year,

1422
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: somehow Vegas has kind of owned him for like the

1423
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: last five or six years. But if you're just shorting Vegas,

1424
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 1: who actually looked a little bit better offensively with Norvin

1425
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 1: his pops. But I could just it's this. I think

1426
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: the same thing about Vegas as the Cowboys and the Jets,

1427
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: Like I just cannot be shocked when I look up

1428
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: and they're down fifteen, twenty points or definitely doubled, you know,

1429
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: ten plus in the fourth quarter, because it happens every time,

1430
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: like Cowboys playing Washington. Obviously Washington's you know, not playing

1431
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: as well. They've lost some games. Jaden's been you know,

1432
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 1: I would say, come back to Earth. But it's like

1433
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: I just kind of expect the Cowboys to lose by

1434
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: twenty I kind of expect the same thing with Vegas,

1435
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: like expect them to lose by multiple touchdowns. Now both

1436
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: I think those two games fall into the same category

1437
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: of like divisional games could get weird, you just never know.

1438
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: But I think at minimum one of these two teams,

1439
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, not only doesn't cover, but just kind of

1440
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: gets rolled where it's like Chicago Minnesota, Like the plus

1441
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 1: three and a half with the Bears jumps out to

1442
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: me like kind of like the Bears in that spot,

1443
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: even though I don't really like the Bears, but in

1444
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: these other two situations, like I truly believe the Cowboys

1445
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: in Vegas or right there with you know, the Titans,

1446
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: and I guess whoever else really sucks. I guess we'll

1447
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 1: find out next week when the Giants play the Cowboys.

1448
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: Of like, these teams are competing for the number one

1449
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: overall pick. We have teams competing for the playoffs, and

1450
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: then we have teams like truly competing for the number

1451
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: one pick. And if you're a sick o gambler, this

1452
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: is this is why you watch them play.

1453
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta find a way to have some money

1454
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 4: on that Cowboys Giants game in order to make that watchable.

1455
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: If you're a batman right now, who do you think

1456
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 1: ends up with the number one overall pick? Because they're

1457
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: all kind of bunched up in two and three wins,

1458
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: But the Cowboys have like I mean, they have no

1459
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: life in sight, Like are you do you plan on

1460
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 1: taking the Giants next week against Cowboys, I.

1461
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 4: Mean the Cowboy I'm not. I don't the Cowby's gonna

1462
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 4: be favored. It gonna be like a small favorite.

1463
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: Is that game in Dallas? Yeah, I guess it's always

1464
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: in Dallas.

1465
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 4: Cowboys are at the Panthers a couple of weeks. That

1466
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 4: might end up determining it.

1467
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: But I feel like the Panthers have got another win

1468
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:04,879
Speaker 1: or to win them, you know, yeah.

1469
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 4: That I would agree. That could be the Cowboys. I

1470
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 4: mean the Cowboys. Most winnable games are at the Panthers,

1471
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 4: the Giants at home. It's pretty much it.

1472
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: But wing is Vegas winning another game?

1473
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 4: That's a good question.

1474
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,520
Speaker 1: I mean Kansas City, Kansas.

1475
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 4: City this Black Friday. They they need to probably beat

1476
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 4: the Broncos here play the Jagon. It actually might be

1477
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 4: the Jags if I had a bet. The Jags are

1478
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 4: Texans at Titans, Jets at Raiders, Titans, Colts at Colts. Yeah,

1479
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 4: Raiders Jags game might determine it.

1480
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1481
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 4: In regards to Bears, don't mind the three and a

1482
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 4: half third straight road game from Minnesota. Bears a bit

1483
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 4: healthier on d and on the offensive line, KILEB. Williams

1484
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 4: against the Blitz and floors does scare me a bit,

1485
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 4: but the offense looked better last week after the coordinator change.

1486
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 4: Kids just getting the ball hot quick, which is going

1487
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 4: to be useful this week. Yeah, well I would think,

1488
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 4: you know Daniels after this look. Washington's a bad spot

1489
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 4: for Dallas. They have a game on Thanksgiving. They're coming

1490
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 4: off a short week, gone on the road. Washington played

1491
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 4: on Thursday night. They have extended rests, give Daniels some

1492
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 4: time to get healthier. I think he was still dealing

1493
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 4: with that injury, and Dallas has and they also Dallas

1494
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 4: might have to be down multiple of their It might

1495
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 4: be without a couple of their best offensive linemen. They

1496
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 4: just have nothing, Like it's Cooper rush now. If you

1497
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 4: can't block like how many how many times do you

1498
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 4: throw a CD lane who looks like he's up, He's

1499
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 4: over this season already. Their defense is terrible. They can't

1500
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 4: stop the run, they can't their corners are all hurt.

1501
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 4: They just have nothing. And I'm sure dan Quinn wants

1502
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 4: to put up a number here. So yeah, I don't

1503
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 4: have any interest in.

1504
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: No one's gonna cry for the Cowboys if you got

1505
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: to play on Thanksgiving, it's fucked up to get a

1506
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: Monday night game leading into basically and then going on

1507
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: the days away. That's that seems a little unfair, Like

1508
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: this is this is a pretty crazy stretch for the Cowboys.

1509
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: Monday Night on the road, then Thanksgiving, Like, what are

1510
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: we doing? This isn't September, this is late November.

1511
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 4: The Seahawks had to do that Monday Night, went to

1512
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 4: you know, came back home Sunday, and then had a

1513
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 4: short week against the forty nine ers and we're all

1514
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 4: beat up and they obviously got rolled in that spot.

1515
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 4: And then the other one you mentioned, yeah with Denver.

1516
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 4: I mean the first I bet Denver last week against

1517
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,719
Speaker 4: the Raiders because acting against the Falcons, because the Falcons

1518
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 4: couldn't get pressure and their secondary was all beat up.

1519
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 4: The Raiders can at least get pressure. But the problem is,

1520
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 4: and this line is getting a bit inflated. I mean,

1521
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 4: like you look, the Broncos have been good. Bon Nix

1522
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 4: has been improving. John Payton's a great coach. Their defense

1523
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 4: is really good. But they've done their damage against the

1524
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 4: NFC South kind of like the Falcons have. They're four

1525
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 4: and oh against the NFC South. All those bad defenses

1526
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 4: that can't get pressure and have been hurt. So I

1527
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 4: think the Broncos are getting into like over inflated territory.

1528
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 4: The problem is the last week against the Dolphins. By

1529
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 4: the end of the game, the Raiders were down all

1530
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 4: three of their starting corners. Nate Hobbs didn't play, Corey

1531
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 4: and Bennett got hurt, Jack Jones got hurt. They were

1532
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 4: down all three starting corners. None of them practiced yesterday.

1533
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 4: So again, they might be able to get a little

1534
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 4: bit more pressure than the Falcons, but they don't have

1535
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,799
Speaker 4: the three starting corners. It's not a great secondary. Raiders

1536
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 4: try to just really limit your explosive plays. That's problematic.

1537
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 4: And I probably can't back the Raiders in this spot.

1538
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 4: If they were fully healthy, I would look to attention

1539
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 4: back them. You know, all five straight losses home divisional dogs.

1540
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 4: Historically it's a good spot. But they're both their running

1541
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 4: backs are hurt too, they have some offensive line injuries.

1542
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 4: They're just beat up. So yeah, I can't lay it

1543
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 4: with Denver at this price. But and I also just

1544
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,879
Speaker 4: can't look at the Raiders because of the injury situation.

1545
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: What about the Rams as a home dog.

1546
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 4: I'm kind of close to market there that that game is.

1547
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 4: It's really interesting to me because I think the Rams

1548
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 4: offense is starting to ascend. Right they got healthier on

1549
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 4: the offensive line, getting some continuity there, and then obviously

1550
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 4: they got their receivers back, and over the past two years,

1551
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 4: we have enough data to show us that this Rams offense,

1552
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,560
Speaker 4: when they have all their pieces healthy, is one of

1553
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 4: the best in the NFL. So they're kind of on

1554
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 4: this upward trajectory. And then I think that the Eagles

1555
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 4: defense is also on all fic Fangio usually takes time

1556
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 4: for when he's had it with a new team. You know,

1557
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 4: people referred to it as a Fangio bump. It's a

1558
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 4: very complex defense, like when do you kind of when

1559
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 4: is that switch golf? And it looks like it has

1560
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 4: for the Eagles. Now. I know they haven't played the

1561
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 4: best of competition, and maybe Daniels was a bit banged up,

1562
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 4: but I go back to that game in Cincy. That's

1563
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 4: the one where I really saw it, when they shut

1564
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 4: down that Bengals high powered offense. A lot of it

1565
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 4: comes down to, you know, the defense is getting used

1566
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 4: to the scheme, but both of their rookie corners are

1567
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,799
Speaker 4: playing extremely well, Quinnon, Mitchell, Cooper Dejen Mitchell in particular

1568
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 4: has been playing at an all pro level against some

1569
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 4: of the best receivers in the NFL. So those rookie

1570
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 4: corners against the Rams receivers, I can't wait to watch that.

1571
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 4: I'm pretty close to where this is priced, So nothing

1572
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 4: for me there, but it's probably a really it's a

1573
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 4: really important game for the Rams. You probably get against

1574
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 4: a good imponent, you and the Rams can get some

1575
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 4: pressure with their defense, and that's what you need to do.

1576
01:26:54,960 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 4: Against Hurts, you probably get like a very good McVeigh

1577
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 4: game plan, play calling game. So yeah, if I could

1578
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 4: get three, it would be Rams or nothing.

1579
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: I know this. The Eagles think they got that. He doesn't.

1580
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: You know, Sherman had great hands, and obviously Sherman was

1581
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 1: a different type player. Reeves had pretty good hands too.

1582
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 1: This guy doesn't have good hands, but he's got a

1583
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: chance to be like an elite, like, you know, the

1584
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: best corner in the league for a long time. I

1585
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: think we're gonna look back and go, wait, were they

1586
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: draft this guy like fourth overall? No, No, they got

1587
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,839
Speaker 1: him in the twenties. They got him in the and honestly,

1588
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: that's kind of like the Rams things like, what wait,

1589
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 1: they draft Khalil Mack two point zero number six. No,

1590
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: they got him at the end of the teams because

1591
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 1: all these fucking quarterbacks and the receivers pushed everyone down.

1592
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: It's like the Rams and the Eagles got I'd feel

1593
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 1: pretty confident saying in three or four years, those two

1594
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be two of the better players from

1595
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: the first round all Pro. Yeah. So it's like, I mean,

1596
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: Jared Ver looks like Khalil Mack did when he was young.

1597
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 4: Power, I think in pressure rate.

1598
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously he's better. He's better than Khalil Mack because

1599
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack had to kind of learn how to like

1600
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: some pass rush moves. It was just all power. But

1601
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: like like Khalil, it's like his power immediately, like he's

1602
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: lifting guys up and driving them back, and that's like,

1603
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: holy holy shit.

1604
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 4: Pretty stunning that a guy like that was at University

1605
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 4: of Albany three years ago before Florida State got him

1606
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 4: in the portal.

1607
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: Well, let's transition to you know, if you would have

1608
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: told anyone three months ago that this would have been

1609
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: by far one of the more intriguing games of the year,

1610
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 1: and I bet when the numbers come out, it'll be

1611
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,640
Speaker 1: one of the especially if it's close, will be one

1612
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: of the highest rated college football games of the year,

1613
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: which aka non NFL games, means it'll be one of

1614
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 1: the more higher rated non NFL sporting events of the year.

1615
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: You know, I would expect if this game good, ten

1616
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 1: plus million people to watch, We're either gonna look back

1617
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: and go that's insane that Indiana was getting almost two touchdowns.

1618
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: I look at morning it was thirteen points or it's like, God,

1619
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 1: Indiana's pretty overrated. You speak of the Albany thing. This

1620
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: guy has countless players from JMU that start for his team.

1621
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,759
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize, but maybe we've talked about this before,

1622
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,839
Speaker 1: is a lot of those players when they were originally

1623
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: recruited from JMU, they were not even a D one team.

1624
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: They were D one double A. So this guy has

1625
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: turned these guys into now. When I was at cal Pauly,

1626
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: we were sending guys to the NFL in the third

1627
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: or fourth round. It's not like D one double A

1628
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: players don't go to the NFL. But to make the

1629
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: transition like they've made, it's been pretty insane. I don't.

1630
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't really have a feel for this. I guess

1631
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 1: just watching football long enough to know. Usually in these spots,

1632
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: like it wouldn't chock me if ahow State wins like

1633
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: forty to fifteen. But maybe Indiana is just really good.

1634
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 1: Maybe the Signetti guy, you know, I thought he was

1635
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:01,600
Speaker 1: a little like the mu money. Clearly he must be

1636
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: cool with staying there because like, what if Michigan fires

1637
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: their coach, I would imagine they would have came after him. Now,

1638
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 1: maybe nil makes these jobs. If Indiana has nil money,

1639
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: then maybe it's just a good job. Like maybe it's

1640
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,799
Speaker 1: better in Wisconsin or Nebraska. I don't know. I mean,

1641
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 1: it's we're in a changing landscape. But my gut tells me,

1642
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 1: like I just i'd be a little stunned if Ohio

1643
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: State doesn't control this game. But maybe just Indiana's on

1644
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: one of those magical seasons.

1645
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I normally in this spot, I would be on

1646
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 4: Ohio State. And historically, when you look at ranked team's

1647
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 4: high profile matchups, when there's a team that's a bigger favorite,

1648
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 4: it's usually for a reason. Bigger favorites have done well.

1649
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 4: Double DIGITR favorites in this spot. But I actually played Indiana.

1650
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 4: They're hard to gauge because they've played nobody. I mean,

1651
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,520
Speaker 4: you look at the offenses they faced.

1652
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: What's what's their best win.

1653
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 4: Michigan Washington. Now, the thing is that with their schedule

1654
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 4: you can adjust for opponent. They've done about as well

1655
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 4: as you could with their schedule, like even the best

1656
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 4: teams in the country, what they would have done, like

1657
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 4: their margin, how dominant they've been.

1658
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: So I exact that Nebraska like you just go, that's

1659
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 1: not a great win. But I watched that game. They

1660
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: beat the living piss out of them. They treated them like, yeah,

1661
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a great win, but we're gonna

1662
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 1: win this thing. Fifty five to seven.

1663
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, ucla team that's been competitive in almost every game.

1664
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 4: Granted it was early in the year, but I mean

1665
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 4: Indiana went there and just absolutely bludgeoned them. They won

1666
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 4: the game forty two to thirteen. So I think we

1667
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 4: have enough of a data set to say that they're

1668
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 4: pretty good. I mean, they put forty one up on Northwestern.

1669
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 4: Northwestern is the top twenty five defense, you know, thirty

1670
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 4: one Washington is a really good defense, fifty six on Nebraska,

1671
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 4: forty seven on Michigan State. So yeah, I think that

1672
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 4: they're legit. Their well coached, are coming off a bye.

1673
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 4: I think they'll have I like their coordinators. I think

1674
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 4: they'll have a really good scheme here.

1675
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 1: Well, if they win this game, they're essentially playing Oregon

1676
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 1: in the championship game. Correct, they would they'd be in Ye. Yeah,

1677
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of I mean, this is obviously an

1678
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 1: enormous game for several reasons for them.

1679
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 4: Yeah and yeah, So I yeah, I played them. I'm

1680
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:25,839
Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna trust Signetti.

1681
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I think I might join you.

1682
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 4: And they're gonna play like Signetti for two weeks. Are

1683
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 4: gonna play this disrespect card with with the line and

1684
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 4: no one giving them a chance and all the media

1685
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:39,679
Speaker 4: is trashing their schedule, and their defensive line is really good,

1686
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 4: and they can cause they caused a lot of issues

1687
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 4: with like their stunts, and they can get into the backfield,

1688
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 4: they can get a ton of pressure. Ohio, well, I

1689
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 4: think one of the keysest game in Ohio States offense.

1690
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 4: They have great receivers, but it's just been underwhelming to me.

1691
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:53,679
Speaker 4: And I go back like the Nebraska game. They should

1692
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 4: have lost the Nebraska at home. When we talk about

1693
01:32:56,240 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 4: like comparing opponents and their offensive line, they already lost

1694
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 4: their left tackle. Was their best offensive line for the year,

1695
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 4: that to make some adjustments. They adjusted well this week

1696
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 4: at practice. Their stud center towards Achilles, Alabama transfer. He's

1697
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 4: out for the year. That's an enormous loss. Now you're

1698
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 4: probably going to move your guard to your center and

1699
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 4: then bring in this other kid who I don't think

1700
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 4: it's very good at guard. You're talking about reshuffling again.

1701
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 4: Your all offensive line, well, I would say it is

1702
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 4: one of the best rosters, if not the best, in

1703
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 4: college football. One of the places they don't have depth

1704
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 4: coming into the year was their offensive line and losing

1705
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 4: their left tackle in their center. Probably two of the guys.

1706
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: He tours the act practice Achilles.

1707
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 4: He have towards Achilles of practice on Tuesday, Tuesday. We're

1708
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 4: recording this on Thursday. Yeah, Tuesday.

1709
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I didn't even see that. How do

1710
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 1: you practice after that moment? Because clearly, when an injury,

1711
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 1: the guy goes down and he has to get carted

1712
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 1: or carried off. That had to rattle the program, right.

1713
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and your offensive lines is all about cont new

1714
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 4: You're gonna be get's a really good defensive line and

1715
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 4: now you've got to reshuffle your offensive whole offensive line again.

1716
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 4: Ohio State also is a snail, like it's very weird

1717
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 4: because Chip Kelly calls opens. They're so slow, So like

1718
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 4: the possessions might be limited this game. There might be

1719
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 4: some weather. So yeah, I'm gonna trust Signetti playing the

1720
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 4: disrespect card. I'm gonna trust what I've seen with my

1721
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 4: eyes and also just the numbers when I'm adjusting for

1722
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 4: opponent that Indiana actually is legit and we're just gonna

1723
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 4: see this in the new There's also just no elite teams.

1724
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 4: I've said this over and over again. There's no elite

1725
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 4: teams that like just deserve that you are going to

1726
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 4: roll the ball out there and blow teams out on

1727
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 4: a weekend a weekend basis, And I think Indiana is

1728
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 4: a top ten isshed team and it's not like Ohio

1729
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 4: State is head and shoulders above everybody else like we've

1730
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 4: seen with a team or two each year. I don't

1731
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 4: think we have that this year, and now they're dealing

1732
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 4: with injuries on the offensive line. My one concern is

1733
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 4: with the Indiana offensive line. Their offense might has been

1734
01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 4: really really good against Michigan in the second half. Michigan

1735
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 4: is one of the best defensive lines in the College

1736
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 4: of Wall. Michigan's defensive line really owned them, so can

1737
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 4: and Indiana lost its left guard for the year, and

1738
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 4: their offense line have been playing really well a lot

1739
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 4: of continuity. Now they get a multi year starter in

1740
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 4: there from JMU. But their left guard it went out

1741
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 4: I think a lot only three pressures all year, and

1742
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,719
Speaker 4: this happened at least this happened like two weeks ago,

1743
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 4: and then in their last game against Michigan, he allowed

1744
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 4: four pressures just in the game alone. Is that the

1745
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 4: weak link of the offensive line and does the offensive

1746
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 4: line just crumble on the road? Maybe? But I think

1747
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 4: Indiana Rourke, they have good weapons, their offensive line has

1748
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 4: played really well a year. They're well coached, and I

1749
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 4: think their defensive line is going to cause some problems

1750
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:46,760
Speaker 4: for this and I don't think it has It's going

1751
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 4: to be a run it with their offensive line issues,

1752
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 4: that's what what hurt them against Nebraska. They you know,

1753
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 4: they had their their tackle got hurt, they had a shuffle,

1754
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 4: they were trying to figure out their offensive line rotage

1755
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 4: and they couldn't run it against Nebraska. I think it's

1756
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 4: going to happen here again, and then Indiana's gonna be

1757
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 4: able to get pressure on Will Howard and Will Howard

1758
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 4: is not great under pressure. So yeah, like I think

1759
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 4: the sharp side the quote unclosed SHARPSID would be Ohio State.

1760
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 4: I'm going to disagree with it here. I'm rolling with

1761
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 4: the Hoosiers.

1762
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 1: I do think too, and I get it, you know,

1763
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: the Big Ten just in generals down. But if you

1764
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 1: remove the Michigan game, I mean really their only close

1765
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: game of the season, and you just look at their

1766
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 1: road games against Big Ten opponents UCLA forty two thirteen,

1767
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 1: Northwestern forty one, twenty four, Michigan, Michigan State forty seven

1768
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 1: to ten. I mean they're going on the road and

1769
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 1: they are destroying these teams yep, so even and obviously

1770
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:44,440
Speaker 1: even their home games like fifty six to seven, thirty one, seventeen,

1771
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 1: forty two to twenty eight. I mean, they're blowing out

1772
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 1: all these Big ten teams just I mean just destroying.

1773
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 1: So it's like we have had years. Yeah, I mean

1774
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 1: they might not be a true national championship contender, but

1775
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 1: I think if.

1776
01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 4: But staying within two touchdowns. That's a different ass Like, yeah.

1777
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean, is it crazy to think obviously Ohio State,

1778
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 1: no one would choose Indiana's roster of Ohio State, But like,

1779
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 1: you know, I think when we look back, we talked

1780
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 1: about that Notre Dame arm uh Notre Dame Navy game,

1781
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,680
Speaker 1: and it was clear it was just like outmatched. Like

1782
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 1: what I'm interested do you just and I think you'll

1783
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: kind of know it within the first quarter? Do their

1784
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 1: athletes look way slower compared how they've usually looked against

1785
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 1: these other teams or it's like, oh, it's not that

1786
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: big of a difference, because I think the frustrating thing

1787
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: for Nebraska is obviously Riola's played like shit, but like

1788
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 1: you watched them in that game against Ohio State and

1789
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 1: it was like, they don't look that much different. Like

1790
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 1: Nebraska's had some moments this year where you're like, damn

1791
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: they you know, they got a lot of good athletes,

1792
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: They're physical, like the Colorado game, the Ohio State game.

1793
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 1: Like I would understand being a fan and being frustrated,

1794
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 1: and I'm just fascinated, like has Indiana like what are

1795
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: they going to look like on the field against like

1796
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 1: their dbs who have made plays whenever I've watched them

1797
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 1: against you know, Jeremiah Smith, or is the guy gonna

1798
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 1: look like me out there? Is he going to be like, Oh,

1799
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 1: they're just running stride for stride with I don't know.

1800
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 1: That's like I'm tempted to even sprinkle a little bit

1801
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 1: on the money line, if you know what I'm saying,

1802
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 1: because maybe.

1803
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's I don't agree that. I don't disagree

1804
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 4: that because there's a lot of variants in like how good,

1805
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 4: how just how good really is Indiana. I think it's

1806
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 4: safe to say that they're really good, but how good

1807
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 4: are they? There's still someone certainty there Because of the schedule.

1808
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 4: This game kind of reminds me a bit about you know,

1809
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:30,680
Speaker 4: like you have these teams that just they just it's

1810
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 4: just their year, and like I go back to two

1811
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 4: years ago, I think on the same weekend, Michigan, well

1812
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 4: the Michigan would have been weekend after but Michigan was

1813
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 4: catching like ten against Ohio State, and no one believed

1814
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,600
Speaker 4: in that Michigan team in the Michigan won by like

1815
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 4: twenty two at Ohio State and then TCU, who ended

1816
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:53,839
Speaker 4: up going to the national title. They beat Michigan en route.

1817
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 4: Did no one believed in them? At Texas? They were

1818
01:38:56,600 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 4: like an eight point dog at Texas and Texas is

1819
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 4: like six and three and they were undefeated. Yeah, and

1820
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 4: uh PCU went to Texas and went out right. So

1821
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 4: and you know, Texas and Ohio State were both like

1822
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,640
Speaker 4: the quote unquote sharp sides of that game. I think

1823
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 4: there's there's something to this Indiana season. I'm gonna trust signetty,

1824
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 4: but yeah, you should know. You'll know right away. Also

1825
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 4: like in the trenches. That's my biggest concern, Like the

1826
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 4: Indiana offensive line. That's what I'm gonna be watching early.

1827
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 1: Okay, stuck at, I'm gonna join you then on the

1828
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: Indiana train. I need. I need a little juice for

1829
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 1: the uh the old big new kickoff that Ohio State fans. Uh.

1830
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 4: That's another thing that doesn't help them. They keep getting

1831
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 4: this neon slate because of Fox. So I think that

1832
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 4: they would rather play this game at night.

1833
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, they would much be a six thirty kickoff

1834
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 1: or whatever.

1835
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think that that that that helps Indiana

1836
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 4: a bit.

1837
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 1: Okay, Stuckey, Uh have fun uh watching Indiana cover and

1838
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: I'll be right there with you, and let's buckle up

1839
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 1: and enjoy Titans see if they can see if they

1840
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 1: can change the narrative of their old one to nine season.

1841
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 1: I will talk to you next week.

1842
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 4: Thanks brother. I won't enjoy it, but hopefully they get

1843
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 4: to the window.

1844
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 1: The volume