1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: It's almost famous podcast. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 3: We are here today to break down the headlines happening 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 3: in Bachelor Nation. And there are some big ones, big ones. 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 4: Big ones. There's a huge one that was a huge one. 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 3: Let's kick it off with what I believe is the biggest. Actually, 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: I want to preface this was saying there is so 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: much I want to say on this issue, so much 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: that originally because I think of the confusion, the severity. 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: The. 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 3: How radically weird it was, I honestly didn't know how 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: to even like review it or analyze it here when 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 3: this first happened years ago, I think I never did. 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: I didn't do a good job personally of giving Clayton 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: Ecker the benefit of the doubt because I was like this, 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: there's no way this isn't true. This is so crazy, 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: there's no way something this crazy is happening. 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 5: Too crazy that you couldn't script it right. 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: You couldn't script it. And so now as we come 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: to a conclusion on the matter, there is still so 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: much I want to say in support of Clayton, but 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 3: also questions I want to raise and ask about this 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: situation because it still feels so crazy to me that 25 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: this is true. 26 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 5: So let's let's yeah, get let's get into it, and 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 5: then we're gonna have to have you explain what kind 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 5: of questions are. 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: I don't think I could even say him, because I 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: feel like I could give myself into trouble saying him. 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: That's why I'm sitting here. Come, I don't know. Here 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: we go. Here's the headline. I'm gonna read a word 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: for a word. 34 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: Con artist Laura Owens charge with seven felonies for lying 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: about pregnancy with Clayton Eckerd. This is according to the 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: San Francisco Chronicle. Now listen to this con artist Laura Owens, 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: who's the daughter of radio legend Ron Owens, is charge 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: with seven felonies for lying about pregnancy with Clayton Eckerd. 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Ashley. Please take it away before I get myself into trouble. 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 4: So I want to spread hearst here. 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 5: I read somewhere that she made up seven pregnancies. But 42 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 5: this is about Clayton's case. This is this this week, 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 5: this big headline was that Clayton is off, you know, 44 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 5: like that it's been proven by the court that she 45 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 5: was lying about the twin pregnancy that she said that 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 5: she had with Clayton, even though Clayton said that that 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 5: would have been impossible as they never had intercourse. There 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 5: was some oral stuff going on during their hook up, 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 5: but there was no intercourse. But she said that she 50 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 5: was pregnant with twins if you guys don't remember the story, 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 5: and that she later misscarried. But she was like asking 52 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 5: for she was asking for the what's it called? Like, 53 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 5: oh my god, how am I blanking on this? The 54 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 5: parental support, child support and stuff from him? This week 55 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 5: it came out the court ruled that she is a 56 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 5: big fat. 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: Liar, right, Okay, So we'll pause there to ask my 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: first question. 59 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: I know it is okay to ask. 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: At what point don't you have to have kids? Like 61 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: she would have had to have the children to then 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: get parental support? 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: Right? So yeah, how did. 64 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: She think this was going to play out? The confusing 65 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: part to me again, I'm going to filter my questions. 66 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: I know a lot of you out there going this 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: is crazy. How did this even happen? And your your 68 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: questions are valid. I just don't want to say in 69 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: publicly because there is a you know, I guess the 70 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: court case is over, but there is a conclusion now 71 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: and hopefully everybody can move on. But my first thought is, 72 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: how did she think this was going to end? Like, 73 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: how did was this going to play out to where 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: she won this case? Because you're in the court, they 75 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: don't just say, hey, we'll take your word for it. 76 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: They investigate, are you pregnant? Are you not? 77 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: Is it Clayton's child? Is it not Clayton's child? Is 78 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: it Clayton's twins? Is it not Clayton's twins? Do these 79 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: twins even exist? These are the questions that would have 80 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: been asked, and at some point you would have had 81 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: to prove that all of this is true. Now, I 82 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: didn't hear seven. I heard three other cases. 83 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 5: Okay, well this was supposed to be twins. So maybe 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 5: she was always saying it's twins. 85 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: It's this is And so I think now's the appropriate 86 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 3: time because I'll be honest about me personally and about 87 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: Bachelor Nation in general. I think due to some very 88 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: wild circumstances that we just talked to Clayton about. You 89 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: can go back and listen to it in his life 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: right coming off the show and during the show, he 91 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: did get you know he was, as Nick Files said, 92 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: the human punching bag. 93 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 2: He got hit on. 94 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: All sides, and it felt like this was a very 95 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: chaotic season for him him and I did not give 96 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: him the benefit of the doubt. I don't think Bachelor 97 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: Nation came in wild support of him, because I do 98 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: think this was one of those situations to give the 99 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: excuse here where it was so ridiculously outrageously crazy that 100 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 3: we're like, there's no way this has no threat of 101 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: truth to it, because what human would make up these 102 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: lies and take it to court knowing that an investigation 103 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: would pursue and still sticking by the story that yes, 104 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: I am pregnant with twins, so that's and so I 105 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: think at least me personally said there's no way this 106 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 3: isn't true. So I'll take this time yeah to say 107 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 3: I am sorry, Clayton. 108 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: I am sorry to I am very. 109 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: Sorry because I did jump to conclusions based on the circumstances, 110 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: and again, one of many times in my life, I 111 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: was wrong on what I thought happened, and then it 112 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: happened from an outside perspective with somebody with limited knowledge 113 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: who probably shouldn't have shared an opinion in j or 114 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 3: all on this, but that's kind of my job here, 115 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 3: is to read the headlines and share an opinion. And 116 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: again I think, as I look back, I shared the 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: opinion I did because this seems so crazy, and now 118 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: that it has proven to be this crazy, in this 119 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 3: outlandish and this wild, and this is something you couldn't 120 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: script that he'll probably make millions upon millions of dollars 121 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 3: some because somebody's going to pick this up for entertainment. 122 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 5: This is a lifetime story, a lifetime original movie. 123 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: And he should make millions on it. I was wrong, 124 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 3: and I am sorry, and I want to come public 125 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: and say that because I was not one of those 126 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: that stood by his side since the beginning, and now 127 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: I want to share that I feel. I feel bad 128 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: about it, and I'm also still in shock that this 129 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 3: situation ever happened. 130 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: Okay, but Ben, you are making yourself sound way worse 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 5: than it was. Like we've believed him for quite some 132 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 5: time now, and even when we were skeptical, we were skeptical, 133 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 5: We were never in full belief. 134 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: Of this stuff. 135 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: We were STiMi thought that there was maybe some truth 136 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 5: to it. 137 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: Had to be some truth to it. This can't be 138 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: that crazy without having true to it. 139 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 5: I think like you and I were like, but was 140 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 5: it really just I mean, sorry, sorry, I know this 141 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 5: is trying to be a PG program usually, but like, 142 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 5: was was it really just oral? 143 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 4: She's going to pretend that she got pregnant on oral? 144 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: That was some of the questions we asked. 145 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: And I thought at the time we were going down 146 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: a path that was helping this thing make sense. And yes, 147 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: I would say I was more skeptical. I was never 148 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: sitting here with you privately or publicly being like there, Clayton, gosh, 149 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: this is he's so messed over here? 150 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: Why would he do this? 151 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 3: No, we were like what more skeptical, But I think 152 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: our skepticism came off of wanting to believe her, for one, 153 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: because who would take this to court unless there was 154 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: some truth to it? And it wasn't true? And so 155 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: I would say this is one of the wildest stories 156 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: to ever happen on the headline for the almost famous podcast. 157 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: In the last nine and a half years of doing this, 158 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: this has to go down as like one of the 159 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: craziest headlines. 160 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 5: I agree, it probably is the longest lasting crazy headline 161 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 5: we've had. 162 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: All right, next headline is this F one fans slam 163 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: Bachelor star for flashing drivers at race. This is how 164 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: you cause Arek is the quote that I'm going to say. 165 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: That's come for me. It's going to wreck. 166 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 3: You flash somebody going about two hundred miles an hour. 167 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 5: You're right, that's extremely dangerous. That's not a laughing matter. 168 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: No, it's crazy anybody. Yeah, goodness, please don't do that 169 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: to me. 170 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 5: Ever, this headline is so overdone. When I read it, 171 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 5: just as they intended when they wrote it, I was like, 172 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 5: how disgusting, Maria. That's awful. There are children there. That 173 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 5: is extremely distracting. It's just kind of piggy, right, Well, 174 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 5: it really wasn't that bad. When I went to go 175 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: watch the TikTok, uh the she does, I don't think, 176 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: she says in the comments in response to people saying 177 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 5: this is gross, she said, I didn't actually do it, 178 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 5: And when you watch the TikTok you can tell she 179 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 5: didn't actually do it. 180 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: It was just like a montage of them showing like 181 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 4: how crazy they were at the F one. 182 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: Race. 183 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: It was like not a big deal. 184 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: So she didn't really flash him as what we're. 185 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 5: Saying, I don't think, so, I mean based on like 186 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 5: the view that I see on TikTok No. Also, she 187 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 5: says in the comments, she didn't so I kind of 188 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 5: believe her. 189 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 4: I believe her on this one. 190 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, here we go. 191 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: Next headline is this The Bachelor's Madison pruit Trout. Madison 192 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 3: Preuit Trout has a new book coming The cover is 193 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 3: now released. It's all Dare to Be True. 194 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 4: I'm looking. I think the article says that she's had 195 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 4: two books. 196 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 5: Come out, and I'm like, this is her second, but 197 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 5: I'm like, no, this is their third, her third, It 198 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 5: is her third. Okay, yeah, Mattie has her third book 199 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 5: coming out. 200 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 201 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 5: She's only twenty eight years old. I feel like Maddie 202 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 5: is so beyond her years. She had made for this moment, 203 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 5: come out in twenty twenty one, The Love Everybody Wants 204 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three, and this year she will have 205 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 5: Dare to Be True come out. People had the exclusive 206 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 5: first look on it, and she says that she knows 207 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 5: how it feels to be stuck, bound by bound by lies, 208 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 5: burdened by past mistakes and shame, confused by the noise 209 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 5: in the world around me. Before I wrote my first book. 210 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 5: Before even The Bachelor, I chased a version of myself 211 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: that I believed would lead to a happier, freear me. Instead, 212 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 5: it led me into deeper confusion. So that's why she 213 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 5: wanted to write the book. She wrote it for the 214 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 5: woman who was tired of proteid performing, who is exhausted 215 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 5: at trying to be someone that she's not. 216 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: Whoa sounds like every Bachelor contestant, male and female. We 217 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: could all read that and benefit from it, can Yeah, 218 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: Speaking of books, Golden Bachelor lum Gary Turner has a 219 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: juicy wow. It's always good when they add that in. 220 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: There a juicy new book coming. The cover was also released. 221 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: It's called Golden Years. 222 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't know. 223 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: This subtitle is what I've learned from love, loss and 224 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: reality television. 225 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 5: Who the heck doesn't have a book? Gary is going 226 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 5: to be yeah, you're right me. He is going to 227 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 5: chronicle the grief of his wife Tony's death death in 228 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 5: this book, and then he's going to of course talk 229 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: about his unbelievable experiences on The Golden Bachelor and the 230 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 5: life lessons that he took away from both. So it's 231 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 5: not just a tell all about what happened behind the scenes, 232 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 5: but also a book for those who are dealing with grief. 233 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 3: We're excited for Gary and Maddie. It is always a 234 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: big a constument to come out with a book. 235 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: It takes a lot of work, a lot of time, 236 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: a lot of effort, a lot of what. 237 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: I don't have a book. It's too much focus. 238 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: Ben, I would love to hear it. 239 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 4: I would love to, but. 240 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 5: You know, I get so overwhelmed because I just I 241 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 5: love to write with a voice. Give me two pages, 242 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 5: be great. I could probably write a column, but I 243 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 5: could never just I could never sit there and be like, 244 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 5: now you have to fill two hundred pages, Ugh, Astley. 245 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: I can't wait till the day you come out with one. 246 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: It's gonna be amazing. 247 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: Here's a wild headline. 248 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: I know nothing about this guy, but the subtitle to 249 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: this headline is she found a way to downgrade you 250 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: hate to see It is the quote and the subtitle 251 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: the headline is this are Rachel Kirconnell and Zane Hijazzi date. 252 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. 253 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 5: Who Zaaneazzi is. He is a social media star, though, 254 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 5: so do I have to look him up? These are 255 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 5: like breaking news headlines. 256 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 3: Guys. 257 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 5: They were just sharing things. Like, neither has posted anything 258 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 5: that confirms their dating. But Zayan did share something on 259 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 5: May six. It was a photo on his instat story 260 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 5: showing his legs and a woman's legs intertwined while sitting in. 261 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: The backseat of a car. 262 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 5: Then the two swapped one of their shoes, his her swap, okay. 263 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: And then people have decided to go full. 264 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 5: Detective mode and like pieced together the outfits and the 265 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 5: shoes that Rachel was wearing and that he was wearing 266 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 5: in other incest stories on a trip to South Carolina. 267 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: For a friend's wedding. That's what we got. That's that's 268 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 4: all we got. 269 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: I don't know nothing. You know nothing about this guy. 270 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 4: So let me look at this guy. 271 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: Now take a second. 272 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 5: Oh good, Oh okay, So he has two point eight 273 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 5: million followers. 274 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: So he has to be legitimate. 275 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 4: Legitimate as in, like he's a known figure. 276 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: Yes, no, Like he has to be the best dude 277 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: ever because he has. 278 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 5: You have your own opinion on mail influencers. I know, 279 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 5: and he is a straight up male influencer. 280 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah cool. 281 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 4: I don't know what he's known for, like what his 282 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 4: shtick is. 283 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 5: He does have a podcast called Unfiltered. 284 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 4: His face is very familiar. 285 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 5: To me, but I don't know much about him, and 286 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 5: I'm sorry if this shows my mi millennial. 287 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it shows your age definitely. All right. 288 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: Well, doesn't feel like people are thrilled on the dating relationship, 289 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: and people also aren't thrilled with ari Lyendyke Junior right now. 290 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: He talks about being roasted for breaking up with Becca 291 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: Koufrin for Lauren and then recently he showed it looks 292 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: like the People magazine cover that says the Bachelor betrayal. 293 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 4: It's really he is not. 294 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 5: He's looking back on Becca and saying, Wow, what a 295 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 5: time we had. And he does look back on the 296 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 5: People magazine cover and says, I remember hating the photos 297 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 5: they chose. I think he didn't like the photos that 298 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 5: they chose, because I might be rotting into this quote, 299 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 5: but I feel like he was like, oh, they're just like, 300 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 5: it's not supposed to make us look like the joyful, 301 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 5: happy couple, because we're supposed to sort of look like villains, 302 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 5: So they kind of chose crappy pictures of us. And 303 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 5: I'm looking at the picture and I'm like, you know what, 304 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 5: it's not the best picture of you guys, he does. 305 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 5: It does feel like a lifetime ago. But look at 306 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 5: us now, we have our fourth kid on the way. 307 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 5: He said, he knew that we were gonna be roasted, 308 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 5: and but we knew what we had and I couldn't 309 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 5: have made it through with it outer. 310 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: And here we are. It's just like seven years later, 311 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: like it's. 312 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 5: More of a it's more of the their low, their low, 313 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 5: as the young kids would say. 314 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that went down in a 315 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: very It wasn't supported by Bachelor Nation, is what I 316 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: should say. 317 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: And now they're very supported by Bachelor Nation. 318 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: They definitely turned the corner there. Speaking of support for 319 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: Bachelor Nation, unseen audition tapes are finally dropping. Here's where 320 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: and when to watch this. According to the Bachelor Nation, 321 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: it's always been something that I think. 322 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: Would be a good idea. 323 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: They're hilarious, they're wacky, they're weird, and it helps us 324 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: get to know the people even better. I wish they 325 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: would be shown like on a portal as each cast 326 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: member is announced, so that we could watch them then, 327 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: so we'd be like, oh, this makes you make more 328 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: sense to us. 329 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: But they're dropping Ashley to us more. 330 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 5: Okay, So Bachelor Nation is kind of like the overarching 331 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 5: account website Instagram blahlah blah that like shows extra content 332 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 5: and Bachelor News. Somebody is new is running it over there, 333 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 5: and people are catching on. I think there's somebody new 334 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 5: running it because there are some good ideas that are 335 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 5: popping up and people are making comments in the comment 336 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 5: section saying like, wow, you guys are really like spruce 337 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 5: it up over here, like way to go for the 338 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 5: new admin. They're doing this, and they're doing this LTK thing. 339 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 5: To talk about that on another date, but right now, 340 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 5: they are releasing the audition tapes that nobody's ever seen, 341 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 5: starting on May fourteenth on their YouTube series. It's gonna 342 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 5: be a new YouTube series. It's called The Bachelor Audition Tapes. 343 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 5: They have them from Joey Hannah. They're gonna be starting 344 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 5: with Joey's Hannah, Gabby. They have Charity And I texted 345 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 5: Ben last night. I was like, man, they really like 346 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 5: they've they've really forgotten our generation. It's all good. I mean, like, 347 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 5: you know, I like to should be in show love 348 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 5: a little bit. You know, it was success stor It's fun. 349 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 5: I feel a little left out. Because my audition tape 350 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 5: was quite something. It was insane, and they were like, 351 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 5: this girl's insane, let's get her on the show. But 352 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 5: I said that back in our day, nothing was digital. 353 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 5: I sent in mine on a flash drive in a 354 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: FedEx envelope, so I don't know that they have those 355 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 5: just sitting on a desk. They probably had some digital 356 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 5: dropbox for these fresh new youngins. 357 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 4: What about you. 358 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't think of it that way. 359 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is weird that all these 360 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: things are being announced and you know, I don't know 361 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: anything about it, and that's fine. I think we've come 362 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 3: to terms with that. But I didn't think, oh, I 363 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: wish mine would be shown because mine was so ridiculously 364 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: bad and I put zero effort into it. Yours is 365 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: great and actually really fun to watch. I sat on 366 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: the deck and like at a lunch break, and answered 367 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 3: questions that my bot, like one of the my bosses 368 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 3: was asking me. And there was even like somebody in 369 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 3: the background like sitting chilling too, and I had like 370 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 3: my white tube socks on. I remember that, So I 371 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 3: don't really care. I don't think it was that interesting, 372 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 3: but I think this is a good idea, and I 373 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: do wish they would show yours. I bet they do 374 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: end up showing yours, mostly. 375 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 4: Because they're gonna rip it from my Instagram. 376 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, because yours is so good. It is iconic, Like 377 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 3: yours is so. 378 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 4: Good, you're very sweet. 379 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 5: It's iconic. But it never really been seen. No, I 380 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 5: did post it on Instagram five years ago, and yesterday 381 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 5: at our almost famous text jut Chain, I went and 382 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 5: I scrolled scrolled gold back and I copied and paste 383 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 5: the link so everybody could see it. I'm reading comments 384 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 5: from our producers right now. They want me to introduce 385 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: a clip so they can use the audio right here 386 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 5: in the podcast. So, guys, this was me getting out 387 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 5: of the limo, hoping that the Bachelor was going to 388 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 5: be Jeff Home. 389 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 4: It was actually my sister with a plate on her face. 390 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: I talk about really cringey stuff about how I'm a virgin, 391 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 5: and because I knew that was gonna get their ears 392 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 5: price still, I went through a whole series, like a 393 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 5: whole season in three minutes. 394 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 4: So and here cute Amadia. 395 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 6: Ooh, here I'm Ashley Conneddi. I'm twenty five, I go 396 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 6: to Syracuse University. I'm about to graduate in August with 397 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 6: my masters in broadcasting. 398 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 3: I love football, food. 399 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 6: Cooking, pop music, especially boy bands, and I can't wait 400 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 6: to know more about you. 401 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 5: I'll see you inside. I love everything about pop culture. 402 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 6: I love storytelling, and I know this is not something 403 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 6: that you're supposed to be on a first date, but 404 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 6: I'm such a pisces, so I'm optimistic and so dreamy 405 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 6: and hopeless romantic almost to a fault. I feel like 406 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 6: that's the reason why I'm not that much of an 407 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 6: experienced dater, because there's no romance in today's society. Guys 408 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 6: are always like do you want to hang out? Instead 409 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 6: of do you want to go out with me? And 410 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 6: I just feel like I should be treated like a princess. 411 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 6: I know it's cliche, but I just really want that 412 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 6: fairytale romance. I'm so excited that you're here in my hometown. 413 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 6: This is great Falls Park. I usually like coming here and. 414 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 5: Getting a whole bunch of food and just sitting by 415 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 5: the water. 416 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: I think that's the perfect date. 417 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 6: Well. As much as I'd love to spend the night 418 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 6: with you without cameras, I have to tell you something 419 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 6: and I don't tell many people this. I'm a virgin Ashally, 420 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 6: please accept this Rose. Yes, I'm a pretty good writer, 421 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 6: but I'm having a hard time writing the story of 422 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 6: my own romance ABC. 423 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 5: I'm hoping you'll help me write the first chapter. And 424 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: then I have another producer of ours saying did you 425 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 5: hire a videographer? Well, actually, I was in my capstone 426 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 5: at grad school at this point, so that was like 427 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 5: our internship month and a half, and I was a 428 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 5: sports concentration, so I didn't have my DC capstone the 429 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 5: way that the hard news kids had. But my good 430 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 5: friends were in DC, and you know, my parents' houses 431 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 5: a half an hour from and we had access to 432 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 5: all our school's camera equipment. So one day she came 433 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 5: over with the with a nice big camera, a huge tripod, 434 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 5: a couple love mics, and we did the damn thing. 435 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: As becka Couperin would say. 436 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, yours is great, it's worth watching. It's you know, 437 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: this is a great project. I really think this needs 438 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: to become a thing before every season starts, so we 439 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: get to know people better. Hey, that's all the headlines 440 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 3: we have for you today. Some big ones out there, 441 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 3: some ones that I was wrong in my skepticism on again, 442 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: I want to apologize for that, but we'll continue to 443 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: bring you headlines the good, the bad, the ugly, the tough, 444 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: the difficult, the weird, the chaotic, because that's what Bachelor 445 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 3: Nation does. So until next time, I've been Ben, I've 446 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: Been Ashley. 447 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: See you guys. 448 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 449 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts