WEBVTT - Renee Paquette On The Show 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:06.680 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:14.640 You're ready, Let's get it off. How's it going everybody? 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.160 Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:21.680 every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern, Sunday's 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:26.040 three Pacific six Eastern, Saturday Mornings with Jim Valley ten 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:30.520 and Pacific one Eastern. And it is Thursday on this show. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.040 And normally you know that means, but not today because 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.680 we got some changes today. Normally we do a very 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.960 in depth aw Dynamite Report. We will not be doing 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:42.640 that today. I will be talking about what happened on 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.800 the show, some notes from the show. But in the 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:50.199 second segment we will be joined by Runney Paquette. I 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.640 love saying that name, Runney Pusquette, and we have a 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:59.000 lot to talk about, including the Wrestling Revolver returning to Dayton, Ohio, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:04.800 iming Sunday, two shows in one day live on Fight TV. 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:10.240 There is a Women's Grand Prix at three o'clock PM, 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.080 and there is Revolver Redemption with John Moxley and Gringo 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.880 Loco a eight PM and Renee is I believe they're 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.000 calling her the Special Ambassador and so she's going to 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:26.679 talk about the Women's Grand Prix as well as aw 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.480 Dynamite and plenty more. We have her for two segments 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.640 here today, so that should be a lot of fun. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.679 And prior to that, we'll talk about the news, which 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.919 is the lineups for the title Tuesday and NXT shows 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:43.720 next Tuesday. Killy wait, will we talk about this? 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:44.520 Then? 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:49.760 We've got Adam Cole injury update on him, NXT No 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.920 Mercy ratings, the post pay per view show, and yes, 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.760 a bunch of notes from Dynamite Wednesday, where a lot 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.960 of stuff happened and we got some show to build towards. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.880 We already know the main event for Full Gears MJF 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.800 defending the title against Switchblade. So a lot to get 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.880 into here today if you want to Texas forty five 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.040 seven eight zero seven five sixty six. That is forty 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.640 five seven eight zero seven five sixty six. Bryan at 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:21.520 Wrestling Observer dot com, Threads, Instagram and yes, cameo at 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.679 four W online. Have you got your cameo this week? 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.160 What are you waiting for? At Brian Albare is on 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:44.280 the acts back in the moment. Observer Live show begin 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.400 the show. Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:52.000 SIMBERBB also of Wrestling Observer dot Com. Ronee Pokette we'll 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.040 be joining us in the next segment of the show. 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.000 But first, we got a lot of news coming off 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.200 the Dynamite Show last night. Not gonna do a full 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.320 Dynamite review that'll be on the Brain of NU show 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:07.440 tonight nine Pacific midnight. Eastern Subscribers Wrestling Observer dot com 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.840 get the Bryan and Vinnie Show can also watch it 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:13.440 at video dot at four w online dot com. And 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.520 they announced a bunch of things because everyone's losing their 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:22.000 mind about next Tuesday. Aw is determined, determined to win 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.160 the night. N XT is determined to win the night. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:31.760 And uh, I mean, I don't know, man. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:32.320 What's the matter? 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:38.960 Who cares? I mean, it's literally it's one day. Yeah, 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.920 Like it doesn't matter. Make it special, I mean, make 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.040 it special, everything like that. But like it doesn't matter 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:52.440 if NXT. If NXT loses, what difference does it make. 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:57.920 If Dynamite loses, what difference does it make? What's gonna matter? 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.960 Everyone's gonna tvd ye. Hey, listen, it was gonna matter 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:06.160 for the next TV deal, like how you're doing on average. Yeah, 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.440 it's not like they're going to go. You know, we were 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.840 thinking about giving you one hundred and fifty million, but 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:15.560 that one day, that one Tuesday, one Tuesday, you did 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.640 a little bit better than usual. Man, Now we're going 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:22.000 to give you a three hundred million now, right, Well, it's. 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.880 This is for the people that just love throwing mud 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.200 back and forth at each other and are big fans 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.000 of one product over the other. That is all this 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.599 is about. At the end of the day, I doubt 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.760 anything will happen on either one of these shows that 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:40.120 shakes the core of their business down to its very foundation, 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.560 and I just don't I don't foresee that happening. So really, 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.880 at the end of the day, when it comes to 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.240 be Wednesday morning, it's just going to be another couple 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.240 of shows that happened, and we'll get a bunch of 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.359 content out of it for a couple of days with 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.000 everybody fighting back and forth, and the rating will be 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.040 let out and then everybody will fight about that and 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:01.920 then we're on to the next one. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.640 You know, the worst thing about doing a show is 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.080 people listen to it. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:08.400 It's a blessing. 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.360 Actually, I take that back. The worst part of doing 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.760 a show is people don't listen to it. Yes, it's 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:18.160 bloke here, mushroom man, Brian hates fun. What in the 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:23.640 name of God Almighty does? What did I say that 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.479 I had anything to do with fun? What I said was, 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:33.960 if I may repeat myself, it doesn't matter which show 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:40.560 wins on this one Tuesday. It only matters for people's egos. 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.479 I didn't say I wasn't gonna enjoy the shows. I 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.520 didn't say I didn't like the lineups. I didn't say 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:51.520 it wasn't gonna be fun. What I said was neither 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.080 show is gonna get a better deal if they win, 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.600 and neither show is gonna get canceled if they lose. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.960 So for the people involved, what difference does it make? 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:09.839 It doesn't make any difference except for everybody's ego. Now, yeah, 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.200 it's gonna be fun because we got two stacked lineups. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:14.800 You want to talk about it might be happy to 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:19.800 all right? Thank god, poor Renee is not falling victim 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:27.599 to this yelling. So NXT has Carmelo Hayes with John 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:33.480 Cena against Brawn Breaker with Paul Hayman. Roxan Perez will 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:39.640 be facing Osca Yes, the Great Oscar and Cody Rhoades. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:47.960 Cody Rhodes Yes will be making a major announcement huge. Yes. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:52.320 We have John Cena, Paul Hayman, Oscar and Cody Rhoads 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.160 all on NXC. That's just what they've told you so far. 0:06:55.960 --> 0:07:02.799 They haven't announced the Ridge Holland match. Now for Dynamite 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.560 Soria or as I like to call her, Sorea defends 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:12.480 the International Women's World Championship. There's a lot of belts 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:17.240 bro against the Karashida Ray Phoenix will defend the International 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.760 title against John Moxley. It looks like they're gonna do 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.600 exactly what I did not want them to do, which 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.920 is the first match back. Moxley just wins his title 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.120 back because he wasn't supposed to lose it. But sure 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.200 looks like that's where we're going here. We have got 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.480 Brian Danielson Swerve Strickland in a Number one Contenders match. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:40.000 We have Jay White against Hangman Page. We have got 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:44.160 Adam Copeland against the Luca Source in his debut, that 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:49.480 being Adam Copeland of course, and we've got Chris Jericho 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:58.960 against Powerhouse Hobbs, who has joined this absolutely horrible croup 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:03.640 of I said creep, which is also horrible. That's what 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:08.960 he should call this group. Don Callis's croup a horrible 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.200 childhood disease that my child has suffered from multiple times. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.080 It's Chris Jericho Powerhouse Hobbs. He has joined the family. 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:17.440 Man. 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.160 What a head to head that's gonna be. You know 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.320 that sounds like my fun. But you know what, it 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.720 certainly doesn't matter which side wins. 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:26.880 I think the fans win, don't they. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.840 I don't know. We'll have to watch the shows because 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.720 there's a very good chance I'm gonna lose because Dave's 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.560 gonna want to do a show that night, and I'm 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.800 on the West coast, so I'm I'm I'm just screwed 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.080 six ways from Sunday. No getting around it. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.280 Mm hm hmmm. Well, no, it gives you Wednesday night off, now. 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.120 No, it doesn't because I'll do the Bryna v Show 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.920 that night. Are you able to watch two shows? A 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.360 Bryan and Viny show and a Dave show in one night? Yeah? 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:56.240 You know, no, that's not gonna happen. I hit my 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.720 wall about uh, about ten am on Wednesday when I 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.040 beg Glance to just go solo because I just couldn't 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.640 do anymore. I just couldn't do it. How is he 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.280 enjoying it? Eight shows in forty eight hours, eight and 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:08.719 forty eight hours. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.440 You know, honest to god, you know, Carl Stern died, 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.600 for Heaven's sakes, pulled himself back up, uploaded his show, 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.040 went to the hospital, found out that he died, came 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.480 back to life, kept uploading shows, And here you are complaining. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:26.280 Hey, Carl Stern will outlive all of us. I think 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.840 that's abundantly clear we're really saying, and more power to him. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.520 Jim Valley and Carl Stern are going to keep us 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:38.319 all safe. Yeah, they repelled death like nobody else. 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.960 Adam Cole provided an injury update during a Twitch stream 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.480 on Thursday. He broke his ankle during a run in 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:49.120 on Dynamite. Says it's not clear exactly how the injury occurred. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.760 He said it's going to require two surgeries, eight screws, 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:57.440 and a plate being inserted into his ankle. Obviously, he said, 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.800 as many people know, my ankle is broken. When all 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:01.680 is and done, when I'm eventually able to get everything 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.600 all fixed. I'm gonna need to get two surgeries. Will 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.200 be a total of eight screws a plate. Not ideal, 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:10.280 he says, extremely painful, most painful injury I've ever had. 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.440 So keep this in mind. By the way, when they 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.000 shot that angle yesterday where MGF made a move furniture 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.320 with a broken foot, I'll bet he loved that. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.119 Welcome to narth rightist kid freak. 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.640 Type of thing. The doctor said, I'm doing my best 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:26.280 to stay as positive as possible at soul crushing a bummer. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:28.839 I mean, the most shocking thing to me was he 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.760 hadn't had the surgery yet, so I don't know if 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.960 they have to wait for like it's possible there's an 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.959 extremely like a lot of swelling and they gotta wait 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:37.560 for that to go down or I don't know what's 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.360 going on. But as of yesterday on the show was 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.720 like they said, he hadn't had surgery yet, so I 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.240 don't know what's going on. But yeah, I mean, you 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.880 know it a storyline, Uh. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:51.400 Oh, I'm sure we'll get a skit about it. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.080 Actually, of course we will. But the storyline is that 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.480 MGF is going to try and hold onto those ring 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.559 of honor take team titles until he gets back. I 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.120 don't think that's happening. I mean, he may do it 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.280 a few times, but I mean we're talking about I 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.960 guess it doesn't matter, but we're talking about icing these belts. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.240 I mean, this could be close to a year. I mean, 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.200 it's a very very serious thing right here. 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.840 So you want to skit for the future, just ignore 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.120 the belts, make them go away, and then next year, 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.800 at some point, Tony Kahan in that bar that they 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.680 were doing all the skits in there for a while, 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.720 he goes in, somebody opens up the freezer, and there 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.199 the title is in, you know, in a block of ice. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.040 I gotta be honest, hopefully that by that point there 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.200 are really no more ROH titles except for maybe a 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.320 world title. But that's me. 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:45.000 NXT on a Tuesday, eight hundred and fifty seven thousand viewers. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:50.400 The week before, they did six thirty six, best viewership 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:54.600 totals since October twenty, twenty eighteen to forty nine. They 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.720 did a point two too, up from point eighteen. It's 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.840 down a little bit from the September nineteenth and September 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.920 twelfth shows, but they went head to head with the 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:11.480 MLB wild Card playoff, so big number, and it would 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.120 be expected that they would win next week. But you 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.520 know what, no man back in a moment with Renee 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:34.800 Puquette Wrestling Observer Live, back in the show, Brian Alberez 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:39.360 here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike SIMPERBB also have Wrestling Observer 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.000 dot Com and Yes, believe it or not, we are 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:47.160 delighted today to be joined by Renee Puquette here on 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:52.000 this program. Hello, how you go. I'm doing I'm doing great. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:52.480 How are you? 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.560 I'm good, fresh off of a red eye flight. I 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.240 don't know what's going on, but we got lots of 0:12:58.280 --> 0:12:59.720 wrestling to talk about. 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.320 Yes we do. There is a show coming up this 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.000 weekend that we've been talking about for the last couple 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:08.160 of days. The Wrestling Revolver returns at Dayton, Ohio, two 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.600 shows in one day, live pay per view on Fight 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:15.040 TV at three pm Sunday this Sunday. It is the 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.600 Women's Grand Prix and we had Billy Starks on yesterday 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.120 talking about that, and then at eight pm there's a 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:25.600 Revolver Redemption show with it says here, John Moxley versus 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.160 Gringo Loco is that correct. I don't know. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.280 You have to ask him about that. I cannot confirm 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:32.040 or deny that. 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:33.880 You know, I thought that when I was plugging it 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.319 all day yesterday. I was like, maybe we should confirm that, because. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.120 Yeah, I'm not sure. I wish that I could confirm that, 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.800 but yeah, I'm not one hundred percent what all is 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.320 going to happen on that show. I only know about 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.080 the Grand Prix stuff. You know, whatever happens on the 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.000 other show, that's their business. I'm working with the ladies. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:54.040 Yes you are. You're billed as the special Ambassador. What 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:54.680 does that mean? 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:56.200 I don't know. 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.240 It feels sort of reminiscent of when I was like 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:02.520 the special contributor on SmackDown. I don't know. I mean 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.640 I think, you know, it's really cool to be able 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:08.559 to go in and represent for the women. We have 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.440 such a great roster of women participating in this tournament. 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:12.679 So for me to be able to kind of like 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.720 spearhead that in some way, to be able to jump 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.920 on commentary, contribute in that way, just kind of talk 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:23.960 to the girls and be around that like independent wrestling 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.040 scene for the women, that feels really cool to me. 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:28.760 I'm very excited about it. 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.920 You know, before we get more into this, I have 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.960 to ask you. They call you the remarkable Renee Piquet. 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:36.560 Is that right? 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:37.880 Yeah? 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:39.680 You know what, It's got a nice ring to it. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.800 I feel like ex Caliber really has coined some great ones. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.720 That was great. Even last night on the show he 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.040 got the little reference that I only ketchup chip sorry hook, 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.320 those plane lays weren't cutting it. I'm a ketchup Chip 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.720 lady through and through. But you have remarkable Renee. Why 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.760 have I not been using that the whole time? It's great. 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.120 It's got a great ring to the renaissance woman an 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.800 a piquette as well too. I mean, you wear probably 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.680 more hats than anybody else. You have the I just 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.040 because I forgot about it until today. Being a football 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.040 fan Renee all day. You got the new one up 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.680 with Mike Hilton. You have the sessions you have. You 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:16.200 love to entertain so much so that you have a 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.960 cookbook about it, which you now turned into a v 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.680 log as well too, or whatever you call those things 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:22.240 on YouTube. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.440 Mike is very old, so you let yeah. I mean 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:26.000 you know what, I use a lot. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.680 Of old references too, and sometimes the kids, you know, 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.200 it's so funny. Like with the aw roster, I feel 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.920 like they are their young group. I'm like, oh my god, 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.480 my grandmother around here? What are these words are? What 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.800 are they? What's the terminology around here? But yes, I 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.880 do like to stay very busy. Working with the Bengals 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.400 has been awesome to be able to do RENEE all day. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.720 I mean, I wish they were getting a couple more 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:52.360 w's on their side lately, but still it's been really 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.040 great to go down and hang out with those guys 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:58.000 and still kind of like do those interviews, kind of 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.840 keep those chops nice and fresh and and dabbling in 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:04.000 the football world instead of just keeping everything straight pro wrestling. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.680 But they've been fantastic. I'm doing the cooking stuff. I'm 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.800 actually about to go make a chicken pop pie once 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.320 I jump off here with you guys. So there's always 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.040 good smells happening in this house. 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.600 Now. I got to ask you this question because you are, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.240 in fact remarkable. We're not just saying that because you're 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.280 on the show. We've talked about this many, many times. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:27.600 But I want to mention Dasha because Dasha, she used 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:32.840 to work for WWE. Yeah, and you know I had 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:37.360 a lot to say about old Dash and WWE, and 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:42.600 and then she went to a w and like immediately 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:49.160 I went what what she was so great in aw 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.600 as compared to what they had her do in in 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:54.960 WWE and wanted her to do? And it was like 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.920 it completely blew my mind. Now I bring that up 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:08.560 because you somehow were great in WWE, which sometimes seemed 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.280 like that would be impossible. So I guess my question 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:12.960 to you is, like, you know, I don't want to 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.840 disrespect anybody, but I kind of am, but like you were, 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.720 you were the best person to ever do that job 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.560 by miles to the point where like people called you 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.440 like the new gene Okerland, which is about as high 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:26.639 a praise you can give somebody. 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.520 It really is. It really isn't. It goes to my head. 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.080 But well that's fine, that's fine. So but my question 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:37.960 is how, because like, nobody else has been able to 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.959 do this, and there are very talented people like That's 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.040 why I brought up Dasha because she's incredibly talented, but 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.400 when she was in ww you would never have known 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.480 that because of what they wanted. And so my question 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.600 to you is, how how did you do that? 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:57.120 I honestly don't know. I don't know how it kind 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.680 of happened, Like I almost want to chalk it up 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:05.080 to maybe the art of subtlety that I think I 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.879 was able to sneak stuff in over the course of 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:12.840 my career there that didn't rub Vince the wrong way. 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.640 So all of a sudden I was allowed to have 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.159 some reactions. I was allowed to have a little bit 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.480 more personality. But it did feel like an uphill battle. 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.520 There was definitely conversations of like, don't outshine the talent, 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:31.200 don't do too much, be straight laced, ponytail, blazer, ugly dress, 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.439 all of these things that were like conversations that I 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.679 had had during my time there. But the more I 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.400 had chipped away, the more I had earned the trust 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.560 of Vince, of Kevin Dunn, of those guys there, Michael 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.560 Cole once, once they knew that they could trust me, 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.080 I think that's when it kind of opened up a 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:52.879 little bit more because there still really was like the 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.359 edict to a lot of the on air personalities to 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:59.399 like no sell everything, no reactions that like blank stare 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:02.520 into the abyss when somebody walks off, Like that's a 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.240 specific direction that is given to people. It does feel 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.479 like they get a little bit more leeway with that. 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:09.560 Now it's a little better now. 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.400 Yeah, it's a little bit better now. But it definitely 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.879 was like an uphill battle of like can I just 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:16.920 get away with a little something? So I would always 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:18.159 just try to get away with a little bit more. 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.879 And it's all just in those like subtlety things. And 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.080 I always say there's like new people coming in too, 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.439 Like there really is just such like a little small 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.479 nuances of like the way that you bring on a 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.200 heel or a baby face, to how you stand next 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.760 to them, and it's just like listening to them and 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.560 reacting to someone like the ridiculous things that they say. 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.520 And it's it's those reactions that I think help make 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.639 that moment great or help, you know, give that character 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.480 something to do. And I always love working with other 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.000 talent that give me something to do because it's kind 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.320 of my job to be reactionary to the stuff that 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.240 they do. So when people use me as that tool, 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:55.200 I love that. It's really fun. 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.119 Well, you know the reason I bring it up as well, 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:01.120 and you actually explained it exactly how it is, which 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.280 is they don't want you to outshine the talent they 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.879 want you to just be And it always amazed me 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.760 because it is better now. But you know, back several 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:10.600 years ago, they. 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:12.200 Would hire start days for a while. 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.560 Yeah, oh yeah they were. They would hire these people 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:19.960 with these great resumes and like great people, but then 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.000 they wanted you to be not great. And I just thought, 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.879 why do you waste your money just like if you 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:27.359 just want so much at that? 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.760 And it's like it's really frustrating and painful because you 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:32.879 bring in these people that are like, well, wait, you 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.800 hired me because I'm good at X, Y and Z, 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:38.719 but now you want to like wipe that slate clean. Yes, restart, 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.320 here's your new name, here's the new deal. We don't 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.800 reference any of the things that you've done before. And 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.600 now you become like this glorified mic stand, which is 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.520 not very fulfilling when you know that you have other 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.040 things to bring to the table. So yeah, I just 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.800 I don't know why. I mean, I guess I know why. 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.320 I'm just yeah, you want the moment to just be 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.000 about the talent. But when you have the right person 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.320 in there that can help to make a moment better 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:07.000 without making it about themselves, you can have some really 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:08.919 great moments of magic. I mean, I think me and 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.080 Paul Hayman so many times I think about working with 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.320 him and the moments that we got to have and 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.480 him getting in my face or like, you know, I've 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:20.399 had moments like that with Samoa Joe. I've had them 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.520 with Eddie Kingston. It's cool to be able to use 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.240 someone in a different layer like that. 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:31.000 You obviously had a very notable career before joining WWE, 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:34.399 as many people have, Scott Stanford or Michael Cole or 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:36.639 a lot of folks who come in from news and 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:41.159 from sports especially. What was the most jarring thing that 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:43.600 you had to get used to other than Vince directly 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.359 yelling at you. What was the most jarring thing for 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:50.240 you coming from outside of that crazy world and then 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:51.560 being dumped right into it. 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.560 I think the thing that threw me for the biggest loop. 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:59.720 So when you work in Canadian television, you don't really 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:03.400 get the star treatment. You have to do everything you're 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:05.320 because sometimes doing your own here in your own makeup, 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.959 you're putting the segments together, You're like you are your 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.280 own producer a lot of the time. So I was 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.800