1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by All Copy Products, proud partner 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Allcopyproducts dot com. 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: For the fifteen of the ten, Murry's Gonna. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Score touchdown, Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 3: Swam to the ground by Buddha Baker like a torpedo. 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: He came flying into the backfield Connor to the ten, 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 3: to the five, and then of the end zone for 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: the touchdown. 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report is brought to you by 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals dot com slash podcast. 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: Here we go one handed catching a touchdown. Oh baby, 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: I'll la pail. 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu, Paul Calvic and the jet stream Roy Green. 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 4: Oh I like that a little sound effects as well 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: as we welcome for the first time in a long 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: time good friend Ring of Honor member, which is some 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 4: that either Paul nor myself can say. Yes, the jet 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 4: stream Roy Green joining us here on this Tuesday edition 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: of the Cardinals Red Sea Report. It is both a 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 4: pleasure and an honor to have Roy Green in studio here. 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 5: You know, I'm loving it. I'm loving it. Two of 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 5: my favorite people. You guys gonna give me a little education, 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 5: little football education. Every time we generally have some conversations, 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 5: not perfectly because we're not on radio, because you guys 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 5: kind of correct some of the things I say about. 26 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 5: So I'm a little excited to see you all again, 27 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 5: so I can learn a couple of things, and then 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 5: I can go and use that against some of these 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 5: other guys who think they know more than me and Craig. 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 6: It goes unsaid that we're not in the Ring of honor. 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you don't need to point that out. 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 6: Nobody's wondering, Okay, whether Paully penciled at Craig Griel or 33 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 6: we're in the Ring of honor. Let's just leave that out, Okay. 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 6: We don't need to point out the obvious. We are close, though, 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 6: to the Ring of honor. We are just where we 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 6: sit at the proximity, sit in the proximity. 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: Just below and I believe just above the press boxes 38 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 4: where Roy Green's name is located. 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 5: I prefer it to be I love to be close 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 5: to it. I love to be closed. Please let me 41 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: close it all the time, because I know in about well, 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 5: we don't know how well. Very soon some other guy 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 5: who I hate is going to be in there very soon, 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 5: and then you know, my thunder will be gone. 45 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 6: Well a little bit later, as I just tweeted out, 46 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 6: dare I ask Roy jetstream Green whether he draft or 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 6: receiver the position itself number four overall. We'll get to 48 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 6: that a little bit later. 49 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 4: We'll also talk a little bit later here about the 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: Super Bowl, the forty nine Ers and Chiefs matching up 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 4: on Sunday in Las Vegas. And we say it all 52 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 4: the time, if you have a quarterback, you have a chance, 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 4: and the forty nine Ers and Chiefs both perfect examples 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 4: of that. And dare I say, as we kind of 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: bring it here locally to what the Cardinals hope to 56 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 4: have happen, if not this upcoming season, sooner rather than later. 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 4: They want to be in that final game. And we 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: saw late in the season, Paul, after Kyler Murray did return, 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 4: the Cardinals did have a chance that they went three 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: and five. The record overall doesn't look good, but what 61 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 4: we saw and then the numbers overall looked a heck 62 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: of a lot better. When you had your franchise quarterback 63 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: at the helm, I mean, you went from a twenty 64 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 4: sixth ranked offense without Kyler to the ninth ranked offense 65 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: with Kyler. 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 6: So it was day and night and it got progressively better. 67 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 6: He looked more fluid, he looked more comfortable. Just his 68 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 6: connection with some of the receivers, especially at the end. 69 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 6: Look at the improvement like with a Michael Wilson for example, 70 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 6: over the last couple of games. Look at the improvement 71 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 6: to a Trey McBride, who really became his go to 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 6: you talked to some of the people on the inside. 73 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 6: It goes way beyond just the stats. Just as six 74 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 6: touchdown and passes in one interception over the final three games, right, 75 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 6: and then one interception wasn't his fall Michael Wilson messed 76 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 6: that up in the ninety nine yard pick six that 77 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 6: went the other way in Philadelphia. It was his ability 78 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 6: to read the field, go and finding the second, third, 79 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 6: fourth option when he talked to So there was a 80 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 6: lot of improvement over the course of his eight games, 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 6: almost six more points per game with Kyler Murray at 82 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 6: quarterback compared to who was there before k one return Roy. 83 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 6: What did you see overall just from Kyler Murray after 84 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 6: watching him since he arrived in twenty nineteen, But then 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 6: you don't have him. He has to rehab the entire offseason. 86 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 6: He's entering a little bit of an unknown situation because 87 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 6: a brand new front office, brand new head coach, brand 88 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 6: new offensive coordinator to a large degree, a brand new 89 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 6: offense overall, and he didn't get much practice time before 90 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 6: he stepped foot on that field in Week ten. 91 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 5: A lot of different things for everyone, but it was 92 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 5: still football. You know, he's one of the best talents 93 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 5: that we've seen. So he's going to be six. He 94 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 5: just has to be, because first of all, his attitude. 95 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 5: You know, a guy he wants to be the best. 96 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 5: He's a great, great competitor, and all it was for 97 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 5: him to get an opportunity to get back on the grass, 98 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 5: to get familiar with some of the new guys that 99 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 5: he's working with U and you know, it almost like 100 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 5: he just came back on the step that I mean, 101 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 5: on the things that he'd been done prior. He's very 102 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 5: comfortable with the coach and the new offensive coordinator, which 103 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 5: helps a lot about things. And as you said, it 104 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 5: wasn't coincidentally that this almost in every area our offense 105 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 5: was better. We talked about what players got more catches 106 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 5: and the running back to the lineman was it has 107 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 5: a lot to do with the quarterback. This is this 108 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 5: is a quarterback driven football team. 109 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: I like that word you use. Kyler was comfortable because 110 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 4: he did look more comfortable, especially as those games progress. Paul, 111 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 4: and you look and you talk about being under center, 112 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: play action, rolling out things that Kyler did at times, 113 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: but not nearly as much in his first three plus seasons. 114 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, I do think going into this upcoming season, 115 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: there'll be much more comfortability with Kyler Murray at quarterback. 116 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 6: And a lot of that he checked into himself. A 117 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 6: lot of that he went up to the line of scrimmage. 118 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 6: He had the authority, had the ability to get into things. Now, 119 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 6: when he first started, you know, his first few games, 120 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 6: there were things that apparently he looked at the defense, 121 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 6: he wanted to get into something, didn't know how to 122 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 6: translate it into the current offense. But by the end 123 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 6: of the season, he was fluent in the new language. 124 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 6: He knew exactly Okay, where I'm going, I know what 125 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 6: I want, what does that mean in this offense? And 126 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 6: then just little things like carrying out the play action 127 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 6: fake you know, they had to drill him on that 128 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 6: because he hadn't done a lot of that his entire career. 129 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 6: You have to keep that ball on your hip, you 130 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 6: have to sell it. It's that one extra moment that 131 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 6: you're going to free the inside linebacker that allows for 132 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 6: a player over the middle to get open that window, 133 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 6: a separation where you have a viable target and you 134 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 6: can make that completion. So that was something that he 135 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 6: took to. In terms of the coaches, they really impored 136 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 6: him to get better in a couple of those areas. 137 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 6: He took it to heart. He improved, and to your point, Craig, 138 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 6: those last two three games, he looked much more fluent 139 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 6: in the office, especially when he was under center. 140 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: Small sample size, but again it does give you reason 141 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: to be optimistic going into this upcoming season. Here in 142 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. Recently, fact, just last week on the 143 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 4: Big Red Rage, Frank Sanders, another former Cardinals pass catcher 144 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: who also wore eighty one, but not nearly as well 145 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: as Roy Green did. Apologies to Frank, but here is 146 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: Frank Sanders talking about what he saw out of K 147 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: one last year. 148 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 7: It's learning how teams are attacking you. You know, that's 149 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 7: one of the biggest things about a quarterback in the NFL. 150 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 7: It's not what you did in college that just made 151 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 7: you great, but it's how your opponent is actually playing 152 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 7: chess against you. Your athleticism allows you to kind of 153 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 7: overcome a lot of stuff. In coler situation because he's 154 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 7: so fast and so exposed to an outside they don't 155 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 7: rush to stack them, they rush to keep them in 156 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 7: the pocket. And I think that's one of the things. 157 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 7: If he learns that and learns how to overcome that situation, 158 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 7: it'd be much better. 159 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 4: Everything else is just efforless adjusting on the fly. Roy, 160 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: because you can study all you want, you can practice 161 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: all week long, but then you see something differently in 162 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: a game or what you think, Hey, I don't remember 163 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: that being a part of a defensive look that the 164 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 4: opponent was giving, and then you have to adjust and 165 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: maybe throw everything out that you had worked on all 166 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 4: week long. And I think that's the point that Frank 167 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 4: s Anders was making last week with Paul Calvic and 168 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 4: Ron Woefully on the Big Red Rages. Okay, now, what 169 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: do you do when you see something differently for the 170 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: first time? 171 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 5: Oh man, you know what, this is the best, the 172 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 5: best reason I think I would not think that I 173 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 5: know when I was successful, when we were successful as 174 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 5: an offense, it was because all the time that we 175 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 5: had opportunity to talk about all the different coverages that 176 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 5: you can go to see all your different receivers are 177 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 5: going to adjust differently, and and and the more you 178 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 5: do that during the off season, the more you talk 179 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 5: about it, and it becomes just uh, it was just 180 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 5: a natural thing, you know. And and as I would 181 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 5: tell you, like when I was playing with uh J 182 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 5: T or Tilly, our adjustments for our quarterback were different 183 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 5: because you know, we would do a different thing. But 184 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 5: it's because that we always talked about it. The quarterback 185 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 5: talked about it, and we drilled about Okay, when this 186 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 5: situation's coming, I know that Roy is going to do this, 187 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 5: I know that JT's going to do this. And now 188 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 5: for the Cardinals is that the team now is going 189 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 5: to be adjustments inside saying inside the uh inside, between 190 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 5: the hashes, It's gonna be adjust It's gonna be different 191 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 5: for Trey than Michael is going to be when you 192 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 5: know as a receiver going inside and that Murray's going 193 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 5: to talk to those guys. And it's also and throughout 194 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 5: this entire offseason and they're gonna make plays because they've 195 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 5: talked about it, they know about it, and it's gonna 196 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 5: be an easier game for him. 197 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 6: Week eighteen, season finale against Seattle at home, Michael Wilson 198 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 6: and Kyler Murray connected on a key third and long, 199 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 6: and Michael Wilson after the game told us it was 200 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 6: just sort of visual nod because they got pressman cover 201 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 6: and that changed exactly what they wanted to do. Wasn't 202 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 6: an ideal coverage. They're like, oh, but now by the 203 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 6: end of the season, Kyler looks at Michael, Michael nods 204 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 6: and boom. He runs basically a nine route where he 205 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 6: stops and then the back shoulder down the sideline first out. 206 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 6: That's the sort of chemistry that developed that I'm guessing 207 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 6: you're referencing Roy where Okay, you can just sort of 208 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 6: make those visual adjustments and know you're on the same 209 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 6: page with your quarterback. 210 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 5: Definitely just like JT would be like that, Holy Nope, 211 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 5: but Jet was going to be keep going and that 212 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 5: was the adjustment different. 213 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: But we knew that, and that I think is what 214 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 4: this offseason is about for Kyler Murray and his pass catchers. 215 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 4: Whether that's Michael Wilson, Tyler en Try McBride, who, by 216 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 4: the way, recently on Up in Adams with host Kay Adams, 217 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: and obviously the conversation turned to Kyler Murray. 218 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 5: What was your reaction when you heard coach again and 219 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 5: say Kyler Murray is going to be the quarterback next year. 220 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 8: I was just super exciting, you know, just to have 221 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 8: a guy to have a whole off season with him. 222 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 8: You know, this year we only got to play half 223 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 8: a season he was coming back with the ACL. So 224 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 8: to now have a full off season, to be able 225 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 8: to work out, to train and do everything this offseason, 226 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 8: to have a full year with him, I'm excited to see, 227 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 8: you know, the connection we can have next year. 228 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 9: I think next year you are one of the breakout 229 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 9: players for next season from the jump. 230 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 10: I'll talk about it all off season. 231 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 4: I'd say I McBride already is maybe broken out based 232 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 4: off how he finished the season. But that conversation is 233 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: just what we were having here moments ago here on 234 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: the Cardinals Red Sea Report. The offseason as far as 235 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: not so much the x's and o's, but getting out 236 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: on the field with your different pass catchers, roy and 237 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 4: working on route running, the timing. Okay, if you see this, 238 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: then do that. And they didn't have much of that 239 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: and that ability because there was not much time when 240 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: Kyler returned, had a couple of days of practice, and 241 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: then you had a game, and there was not much 242 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: of that conversation. There was some, But now is really 243 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 4: when you can hone in on that conversation and that 244 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: talk and Kyler doesn't have to worry about a rehab anymore. 245 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: He's fine. 246 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 4: Now you can just figure out what you need to 247 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 4: do on the football field. 248 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 5: So this is even more amazing that the connection that 249 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 5: they had these last part of the season because they 250 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 5: hadn't to spend as much time together, but yet the 251 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 5: numbers they put together, this kind of second sense they 252 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 5: have between one another is pretty unbelievable. But now is 253 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 5: to even get better. I mean, it's it's just easy 254 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 5: to know that. And both guys are first and foremost, 255 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 5: they're very committed. They're very committed, they love to compete, 256 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 5: and they've seen just a piece of how great that 257 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 5: this offense can be. You know, we've seen some moments 258 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 5: that hey, this guy who we always talked about, you know, 259 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 5: we got a few moments a few pieces that we 260 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 5: need to become a really good offense. Well, it's not 261 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 5: that far away. In my opinion, it's not that far 262 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 5: away because all our receivers are very capable to make plays. 263 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 5: We have a tight ends, very it's one of the 264 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 5: best in the league at this early age in our quarterback. 265 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 5: As I said before, everybody was a lot of talk 266 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 5: before is this is going to be our guy? And 267 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 5: I'm wondering why was this that an answer? Why is 268 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 5: there an answer? He's always shown in my opinion from 269 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 5: the very first day, Hey, this is a franchise quarterback. 270 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 5: And I think that we've seen that now. 271 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 6: You know what else we discovered rediscovered was when you 272 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 6: have a franchise quarterback, you can have a lot of 273 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 6: other deficiencies and get away with it. That guy at 274 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 6: quarterback can erase a lot of other weaknesses and shortcomings. 275 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 6: Look what Patrick Mahomes did this year with a group 276 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 6: of receivers who led the NFL in drops forty four 277 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 6: drops they had this year, got rid of a Tyreek 278 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 6: hill and he's been at two straight Super Bowls. So 279 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 6: if you have that guy at quarterback, and dare I say, look, 280 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 6: if you have the head coach in the quarterback. That 281 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 6: combo is still so vital in the NFL. Andy Reid 282 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 6: and Patrick Mahomes, Kyle Shanahan and Brock Purty. Look what 283 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 6: Demico Ryans and CJ. Stroud did in Houston this year. 284 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 6: They had no more than four wins each of the 285 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 6: last three seasons, but they got the head coach in 286 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 6: the quarterback right. Didn't have a lot of other talent 287 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 6: on the rest of that team. Necessarily they have some players, 288 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 6: but look what they did. They went from worse to first. 289 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 6: And so if you're the Arizona Cardinals and you're coming 290 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 6: back with Jonathan Gannon, who I think showed him self 291 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 6: improved himself pretty dang well. Ball security was excellent, lack 292 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 6: of penalties this year, a lot of things you can 293 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 6: point to that was direct influence from the head coach. 294 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 6: And now Kyler Murray is back and playing at a 295 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 6: Pro Bowl level. If he can pick up where he 296 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 6: left off and get that much better in this offense, 297 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 6: to me, that's the formula where the Cardinals make a 298 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 6: serious postseason run next year. 299 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: Everyone is on the same page as far as front office, 300 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: head coach, and your franchise quarterback. One more on Kyler 301 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 4: Murray and what he is doing and what he potentially 302 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: can do for the Arizona Cardinals the day after the 303 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: season ended, wide receiver Michael Wilson. 304 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 10: I feel extremely responsible to play at a high level 305 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 10: for him because I'm playing for his legacy right being 306 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 10: a Heisman Trophy winner, being a Number one pig, being 307 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 10: franchise quarterback. He signed a big contract. He's got a 308 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 10: lot of responsibility, and I want to make sure I'm 309 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 10: playing at a high level to play a positive role 310 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 10: in his story. 311 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 4: You can hear the sense of commitment that Michael Wilson 312 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 4: is going to put in this offseason to make sure 313 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: not only he has good year, but Kyler Murray has 314 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: a good year and this Cardinals' offense has a good 315 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: year in twenty twenty four because it is moving forward. 316 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: You laid the foundation in year one under head coach 317 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon. Now you build upon that, and the Cardinals 318 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: will have potentially another pass catcher for Kyler Murray to 319 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: throw too, maybe even a couple of different new faces 320 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: added to this Cardinals team, whether or in free agency. 321 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: And then of course there's the draft. Might Michael Wilson 322 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 4: be playing with someone oh maybe out of a certain 323 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 4: university in the Midwest. We can talk about the draft. 324 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: We can talk about the wide receiver position. 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This is the Arizona Cardinals 333 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 4: radio network. 334 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: Snap to Murray Blitz coming Burry backing up close into 335 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: the end zone, the middle of the end zone, pulled 336 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: in by Wilson for a touchdown. 337 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 11: I told you all from day one, you know, I 338 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 11: watched his Senior Bowl and I was like, Yeah, that 339 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 11: kid knows, you know, he knows. 340 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: What he's doing. 341 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 11: I could tell, you know. And then just obviously he 342 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 11: had zero catches two weeks in a row, and that's 343 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 11: not you know, again, they're not a real representation of 344 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 11: you know what I think we could be. Now we'll 345 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 11: get a full off season on our bilt. You know, 346 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 11: I think next year, you know, Michael have a big year. 347 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 4: A very good first impression by the Cardinals, third round 348 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 4: wide receiver out of Stanford. Sorry, Paul, but had to 349 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: get it in there cause it's the facts, despite where 350 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: you went to college. 351 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 6: You know, I don't necessarily hold it against him, like 352 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 6: a Christian McCaffrey in the Super Bowl. It's when I 353 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 6: read that Christian McCaffrey is now also engaged to a 354 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 6: former miss Universe. That's when it's too much. That's what 355 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 6: that's That's when the likability factor really goes out the window. 356 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, it's just too much for one person. 357 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 4: Cardinals really liked what Michael Wilson did in his first 358 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 4: season with the Arizona Cardinals. As we say, welcome back, 359 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: it is the Cardinals Red Sea Report presented by See 360 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 4: Your Ticket to Great Seats Greig Reial, Loup, Paul Calvic 361 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 4: and Roy Green talking about the wide receiver positions, specifically 362 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 4: talking first about Michael Wilson thirty eight catches, five hundred 363 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 4: and sixty five yards and three touchdowns, just one off 364 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 4: the team lead. And you heard Kyler Murray there talking 365 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 4: about Michael Wilson and the limited amount of time that 366 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 4: the two of them had to work on their game, 367 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: something we had touched on earlier here on the Cardinals 368 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 4: Red Sea Report jet. Yet at the same time you 369 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 4: could see, and again only a small sample size, and 370 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 4: remember Michael Wilson missed some time when Kyler came back. 371 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 4: Yet even that connection, you could see there was promise 372 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 4: moving into twenty twenty four. 373 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we knew, you know, prior to the draft, 374 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 5: everyone was excited, particularly the Cardinals. Everyone felt like it 375 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 5: was a steal, you know, to get him. Everyone said 376 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 5: that he could have had the talent of a first 377 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 5: round pick. And you know, he's shown that when you 378 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 5: watched this preseason draft last year and you saw his feet, 379 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 5: you know, the routes. He had an idea of what 380 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 5: receivers need to do to get open. He knew that 381 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 5: prior to coming in. Now he's getting better, has a 382 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 5: lot of ability, He's confident, and as we keep coming 383 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 5: back to, well, you have a great quarterback and you're 384 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 5: just the okay receiver, you're going to be good. But 385 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 5: when you have the ability that he has, you got 386 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 5: to expect some special things. 387 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 6: How long does it take you to determine if a 388 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 6: rookie receiver has a chance to be really good in 389 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 6: this league. Because I was talking a couple of the 390 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 6: Cardinals veteran receivers. I was askedingim about Michael Wilson the 391 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 6: first time they saw Michael Wilson in the off season 392 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 6: one of the mini camps, and the said it was 393 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 6: by the end of the first practice, a couple of 394 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 6: the veteran receivers turned to each other said, we got one. 395 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 6: We got Manias Support got one, and Michael Wilson. Why 396 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 6: it's remarkable how players no players, I mean, are you 397 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 6: pretty confident that you can watch after one practice you 398 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 6: can determine whether a rookie's gonna have a good shot 399 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 6: or not. 400 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna toot my head a little bit here, 401 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 5: but you know, I've had some conversation with people prior 402 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 5: to when I used to work all the receivers, you know, 403 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 5: years ago, like Beckham and Julio and Tate and just 404 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 5: quite a few guys I work with, and we would 405 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 5: talk about guys and they go, you know, I've seen 406 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 5: this guy for the last three years in college and 407 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 5: blah blah, this and this guy and this guy and Roy, 408 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 5: you've only seen him one time. Why do you think 409 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 5: you have the advantage? I said. If you don't know 410 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 5: in a few minutes about these kind of guys, you 411 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 5: out of their own business, you know. So, Yeah, it 412 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 5: doesn't take long to see certain people, and Michael is 413 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 5: one of those guys. Said. You see his feet, you 414 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 5: see the combination of his hands, he has the strength, 415 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 5: you know, the size, and amongst all that, he had 416 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 5: some heart. He wants to be really good. He wants 417 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 5: to be really good and great competitor. Yeah, we're gonna 418 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 5: see something special from him. 419 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 4: Six foot two, so he has the size that I 420 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 4: think that this front office and coaching staff wants out 421 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: of a wide receiver, which leads us into what might 422 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 4: be coming up. At the end of April. There is 423 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 4: a wide receiver out of Ohio State, six foot four, 424 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 4: two hundred and five pounds by the name of Marvin 425 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 4: Harrison Junior. We've watched him, now Roy for two plus seasons. 426 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 4: He was a talk of the wide receiver class a 427 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 4: year ago, and now once again not only the talk 428 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: of the wide receiver class, but dare I say many 429 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: of the pundits believe he is the number one prospect 430 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 4: in this twenty twenty four draft class. And there the 431 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 4: Cardinals are. They have their quarterback the three teams ahead 432 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: of them. Man, there might be some quarterback questions that 433 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 4: they have. And now that there's some excitement that perhaps 434 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison becomes an Arizona Cardinal later this off season. 435 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 5: Are you saying that should should we bring him? Or 436 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 5: is he capable of being changing a franchise with that 437 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 5: type of ability? Uh? He's great, without question. Uh, the 438 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 5: best one as we've seen this year. Everyone said it. 439 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 5: But you know what, there's a couple of guys that 440 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 5: are really close to him. There's some more guys that 441 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 5: are very explosive. You know the kid that at LSU neighbors. Wow, 442 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 5: he's special and actually he has another teammate and uh 443 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 5: you told me for a time. Yeah, all those guys 444 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 5: have some ability of Conzie who's at Washington. All the 445 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 5: special guys. And as I said before, you know, for 446 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 5: for a receiver, you know, he's dependent, he's dependent. Really, 447 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 5: you know a lot of guys are great receiving the 448 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 5: wrong situation, the wrong quarterback. You know, he's just a 449 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 5: regular guy. But if he's in the right situation with 450 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 5: with the right quarterback in the officsive coordinator. Uh, you know, 451 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 5: it's he can be special. With that question, Arison can 452 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 5: really be very special. But you know, with the situations 453 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 5: of our team going along with I said, we asked 454 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 5: some good guys here, I don't know. I think there's 455 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 5: a couple more guys I want to grab before getting 456 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 5: the receiver. But that's just me talking. 457 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 6: Look, it's a really deep draft and receiver. It's a 458 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 6: really deep draft and tackle for example. You know, in 459 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 6: the one historical case study, I'll throw out the Detroit 460 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 6: Lions Matt Millen, widely known as the worst GM and 461 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 6: modern history of the NFL. 462 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 2: What do he do? 463 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 6: He took three receivers in the top ten over like 464 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 6: a five year span. Where'd they get? 465 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 5: Remember those kids? 466 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 6: They went oh and sixteen at one point, then they 467 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 6: finally hit a home run in Calvin Johnson obviously, you know, 468 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 6: top five pick, Hall of Famer. Would that really do 469 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 6: for the Lion's fortunes? So with that being the case, 470 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 6: I truly wonder what Monti Austin Ford is going to do. 471 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 6: I just see a GM who truly believes in building 472 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 6: from the inside out. Bolstering the line of scrimmage, you 473 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 6: continue to build that offensive line if indeed you think 474 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 6: that guy is worthy of number four. Is there a 475 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 6: defensive lineman? I mean, you need to invest in the 476 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 6: defensive line of scrimmage on this team. Do you really 477 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 6: have that guy at number four? I mean, if only 478 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 6: a Miles Garrett was there. But there's not that sort 479 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 6: of guy. So my working theory is if a quarterback 480 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 6: is available at number four, a team will want to 481 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 6: come up, and I think they'll have a willing trade 482 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 6: partner in Montias Sport. That's just my gut feel at 483 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 6: this point. 484 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 4: Unless Marvin Harrison or whomever it might be at number four, 485 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: that is just too good of a can't miss prospect. 486 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 4: Now you say that, and dare I say, how many 487 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: can't miss prospects have missed in the past, especially when 488 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 4: you're talking top ten, top five? Now, once upon a 489 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: time the Cardinals did have a top five selection and 490 00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 4: went wide. 491 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 5: Who was that? 492 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald? What pretty good wide receiver? 493 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 5: No overrated coming? So overrated? 494 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 4: God, he's not in the Cardinals Ring of Honor. Roy 495 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 4: and you are. Yeah. Fits recently sat down with cam 496 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 4: Cox twelve Sports and the conversation obviously came up about 497 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior being an Arizona Cardinal. 498 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 12: He's a stud and and if he's there, I hope 499 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 12: we get him. Kyler love to throw it to him. 500 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 12: I'm a big fan of his father's and you know, 501 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 12: from everything I've heard, you know, he's just a really good, 502 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 12: hard working young man. So you can never have enough 503 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 12: high character, outstanding talented football players, you know, because those 504 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 12: are guys are the pillars of your of your foundation. 505 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: Jay Feeley called him the next you, like he compared 506 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 2: him to you. 507 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 12: Now you're that guy where people are like, hey, they 508 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 12: can be the next you know. In a way, he's 509 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 12: a heck of a lot more talented than than I 510 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 12: was at that age. 511 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 7: You know. 512 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 12: He can take short passes and go long. He can 513 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 12: go over the top. He's a willing participant, like in 514 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 12: terms of blocking in the run game, Like you used 515 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 12: to do that too, but I wasn't. I wasn't a 516 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 12: willing participant until like twenty thirteen later. Yeah, you know, 517 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 12: I did it begrudgingly. But now he does it already, 518 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 12: you know, in college, and he does it does it 519 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 12: really well. So I mean, if he's there, I definitely 520 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 12: would love to see him. 521 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 4: Fits the third overall pick, Cardinals have the fourth overall pick. 522 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 4: And yeah, for those that remember the early days of 523 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald, Marvin Harrison Junior, Paul coming out of Ohio 524 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 4: State is a more polished, well rounded receiver than Fits. 525 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 4: And that's not to say that you've got a future 526 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer with Marvin Harrison Junior, but coming out, yeah, 527 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 4: he's a step or two better than Fits. 528 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 6: Look, if that's your comp if you're telling me that 529 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 6: Marvin Harrison Junior is the next Larry Fitzgerald and is 530 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 6: a bona fide first ballot Hall of Famer, draft him. 531 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 5: Draft that's the case, draft him number four. If that's 532 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 5: the case, you know, it's easyles to say. And he's 533 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 5: better pub polished than fitz was. 534 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 6: Come on, now, he might be a little faster than 535 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 6: Larry was. Okay, he's might have some better times and 536 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 6: maybe some of the workouts, but yeah, more coblished. How 537 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 6: can you have better hands, for example, than Fits? 538 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, no, Fits. You know, he's he's very humble, 539 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 5: he always is. But yeah, but if he was indeed 540 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 5: all of that, yes, you would have to do it. 541 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 5: But as you talked before, Poly, there are some more 542 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 5: things that we've always talked about, and even prior to 543 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 5: the season, we say, hey, we need a defensive tackle, 544 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 5: a dominant defensive lineman. We've always talked about, where's that 545 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 5: cornerback going to be? Where is that guy that we 546 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 5: have We haven't had those guys. You know, we talked 547 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 5: about inside, the pressure of an offensive line. We've talked 548 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 5: about that. You know, those are things that you know, 549 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 5: if we want to go where we want to be, 550 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 5: in my opinion, to be in those playoffs next year, 551 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 5: you know, those some things we have to address. And 552 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 5: I know that they're talking about and they have a plan. 553 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 5: But as we talk about, you know, there's some things 554 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 5: that you know, first and foremost, the biggest fan there 555 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 5: is is me, and I'm always telling you what we 556 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 5: should do. And of course that's what they always tell me. 557 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 5: Roy shut up, and I understand why. But yeah, there's 558 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 5: some things I think that we really need and order 559 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 5: us to be a great, great, complete team. But yeah, 560 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 5: as you said, if that guy, we said, if he 561 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 5: can go about and become even close to what Fitz 562 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 5: will be, let's go and get. 563 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 6: Him and look if there was a Sauce Gardener there 564 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 6: at number four, like absolute hands down Pro Bowl corner. 565 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 6: But this isn't really that class. Now there's Terry and 566 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 6: Arnold out Alabama. Some of the mock drafts have him 567 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 6: going six or seven. Okay, you know, maybe he could 568 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 6: be that guy. But in terms of the need for 569 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 6: a cornerback, one for edge rusher, they had one sack 570 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 6: over the last six games. You know you need that 571 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 6: help along there. So once again, can you get receivers 572 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 6: later in the draft? Absolutely, look at I'm on Ross, 573 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 6: Saint Brown and All Pro this year. He did an 574 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 6: interview the other day where he listed he recited this 575 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 6: sixteen receivers drafted before him. You can find some of 576 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 6: these guys later in the draft in a loaded receiver class. 577 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 6: But again, if Marvin Harrison Junior is the next Larry Fitzgerald, Okay, 578 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 6: I get it. Pull the trigger. 579 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 4: At four NFL Networks, Daniel Jeremiah has four wide receivers 580 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 4: in his top fifteen. To your point, Paul, can you 581 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: drop a little bit, get to number eight, nine, ten, 582 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 4: or eleven and get one of those not named Marvin 583 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 4: Harrison Junior wide receivers. Something Frank Sanders talked about last 584 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 4: week on the Big Red Rage. 585 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 7: There are three or four receivers right now on the 586 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 7: top of the list that just makes your heart melt. 587 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 7: They're all six foot three, six foot four, tall, lanky, 588 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 7: rangey guys with arms. You know, they can make all 589 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 7: kind of plays from the one step hits to you know, 590 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 7: throwing the ball down the field, not afraid to go 591 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 7: across the middle. And Marvin Harrison would be something that 592 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 7: you just would love to have, especially because you know 593 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 7: this could be you know, another dreaded hair situation. Like 594 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 7: Larry Fitzgerald, a guy that runs all around. He's got 595 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 7: speed quality on every area from that outside to the inside. 596 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 7: He's knowledgeable as a receiver, so you're winning in that area. 597 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 7: But I will add this in, there are a lot 598 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 7: of receivers out there when that can make plays that 599 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 7: if you can steal him in the draft between the third, 600 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 7: fourth and fifth round, that's gonna be absolutely helpful to Kyle. 601 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 4: This our Cardinals offense, Kyle Murray needs a number one 602 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: ride receiver on the roster right now. There is not 603 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: a number one wide receiver. 604 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 5: Now. 605 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: Can Michael Wilson be a number one wide receiver? Perhaps, 606 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 4: but you need a playmaker that is going to set 607 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 4: the defense and make defenses keep their eyes up as 608 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 4: far as whereas that guy lined up left inside, right inside. 609 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: That's what's missing with this Cardinals offense. 610 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 6: I got into an argument with Ron Wolfley on the air, 611 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 6: and I said, look, the best thing that could happen 612 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 6: to the Ears on our Cardinals would be if Marvin 613 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 6: Harrison Junior was drafted number three before the Cardinals, because 614 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 6: then a quarterback falls to four and a team like 615 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 6: Atlanta might want to come up from eight. So now 616 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, you cash in number four for 617 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 6: extra picks. You make up for loose in ground on 618 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 6: the Houston first round pick, stinking c J. Stroud and 619 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 6: Damiko Ryans. That's now a twenty seventh pick overall. Okay, 620 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 6: but now you make up for that. You go down 621 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 6: to eight, and you still get a Roma Dunesay, you 622 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 6: get a Malik Neighbors. You still get a premier wide 623 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 6: receiver at eight, but you also get some other picks 624 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 6: to go along with it. 625 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 4: Again, there is no wrong answer here. We'll see what 626 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 4: Manti austin Ford decides to do come April, and then 627 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 4: they will be discussed and dissected, but we really won't 628 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 4: know the answer to any of these questions for a 629 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 4: good two or three years down the road. 630 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 6: And there's a chance that a Mike Evans might hit 631 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 6: free agency, but there's also a better chance. I think 632 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 6: that this front office isn't gonna spend big money, especially 633 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 6: on a receiver in free agency. And Michael Pittman from Indianapolis, 634 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 6: but you figure the Colts have to tag him. He's 635 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 6: by far their best receiver. So it's gonna be draft 636 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 6: at some point. 637 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 4: And remember, free agency happens before the draft. Do the 638 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 4: Cardinals tip their hand a little bit by what they 639 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 4: do in free agency before they're on the clock. At 640 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 4: the end of April, we've hit halftime here on the 641 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: Cardinals Red Seer Report presented by Seat Geek Your Ticket 642 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: to Great Seats, Craig rail Loop, Paul Calvc. 643 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: And Roy Green. 644 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: Here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 645 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: Houda Baker Somebody been getting hand on budda Baker? Who 646 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: to Baker's are bad? Who to Baker man Man put 647 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: a Baker's a bad after watch it? That's a running 648 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: and hit and everything. 649 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 4: Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin wired up, miked up, going 650 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 4: back a couple of years, but talking about Cardinal safety 651 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 4: Buddha Baker, who this past Sunday participated in his sixth 652 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl, fifth in a row, by the way, helped 653 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: the NFC beat the AFC in flag football and all 654 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 4: the other activities surrounding the Pro Bowl. As we say 655 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 4: welcome back, it is the Cardinals Red Seer Report presented 656 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 4: by Seat Geek Your Ticket to Great Seats, Greg Raiol, Loop, 657 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 4: Paul Calvc and Roy Green as we talk about the Cardinals' 658 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 4: longest tenured defensive player, Budda Baker, who despite missing five 659 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: games this season, Paul still finished second on the team 660 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 4: in tackles. Didn't have any splash plays, something that he 661 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 4: brought up late in the season. No interceptions, no sacks, 662 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 4: but he also wasn't targeted a ton. He don't see 663 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 4: the football come in insurrection. 664 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 6: You know, I'm old enough to remember the old Maytag 665 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 6: repair man commercials where the lonely guy sitting in his 666 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 6: office right and nobody ever calls because the machines are 667 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 6: so reliable. You know that was Buddha Baker. Nobody tried him, 668 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 6: nobody tested him, nobody went his way, nobody called his number, 669 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 6: and uh man, there were be entire games where he'd 670 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 6: be like, wow, okay, now he'd still make a sure 671 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 6: of tackles, still ended up near the team leaders despite 672 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 6: missing five games. But usually he's going across the field 673 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 6: to make that tackle. He's usually coming from distance, and 674 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 6: just the amount and the number of touchdowns saving chunk 675 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 6: run saving tackles, he's still, in my opinion, the best 676 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 6: tackler in space in the NFL. So reliable. His angles 677 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 6: are always so money and sound, and you see it 678 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 6: like in the preseason when other safeties play in the preseason, 679 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 6: you realize how many tackles are missed in the open field, 680 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 6: and it really gives you an appreciation of Buddha Baker 681 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 6: and Jalen Thompson. It's every August where I realize, okay, 682 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 6: you know what, guess what we need to uh sort 683 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 6: of restart our appreciation for these two guys and don't 684 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 6: take them for granted because they are that good. 685 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 4: It's the last line of defense in that secondary as 686 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: far as the safety position. And by the way, we 687 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 4: talk about the wide receiver of that jet stream. Roy 688 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 4: Green participated played in exceled at you are also a 689 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 4: defensive back as well, so you. 690 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 5: Can why everybody laughing and smile them when you say 691 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 5: that everything that'll. 692 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 13: Because nobody does that anymore, but nobody because nobody does that, 693 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 13: it's it's so unheard of, right, I mean, so you 694 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 13: tell us what's your appreciation level for a Buddha Baker 695 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 13: and what he's able to do just they call him 696 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 13: the eraser out there. 697 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 5: Well, what you just said about is that, as you're 698 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 5: talking about Craig, this guy was always open tackler and 699 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 5: so many plays that could have been I mean huge 700 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 5: plays or touchdowns that he saved. And I think that 701 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 5: other teams recognize that because of uh, you know what 702 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 5: he does. As you said, you say, it's not as 703 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 5: splash plays as before, but that is a splash right 704 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 5: when you when you have a guy that has an 705 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 5: opportunity to score a touchdown, a huge, big play and 706 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 5: he makes that that great tackle. Uh, you know that's 707 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 5: what it's about. 708 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 709 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,959 Speaker 5: But yeah, Buddha is he's just a special guy first 710 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 5: and foremost, he's a leader. You know, everybody on that defense, 711 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 5: you know, they listen to him. They understand that he's 712 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 5: gonna always be prepared and he's willing to do whatever 713 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 5: it is and try to uh win his competitions, and 714 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 5: uh that's why he's special. I think that after him 715 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 5: back and being back and seeing him next season, I 716 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 5: think that he's probably knowing him he's probably big. Inn 717 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 5: I need to be up to the actually look closer 718 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 5: than I've been this past here, so he might be 719 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 5: in the box a little more than he has in 720 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 5: the past, and see some of those bone crushing tackles 721 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 5: that he makes as a back coming through what he 722 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 5: thinks is in the gap and all of a sudden 723 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 5: he steps in the and hits him right in the chest. Oh. 724 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 5: I can't wait to see him well. 725 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 6: And I remember in training camp, you know, he came in. 726 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 6: I'm like, dude, I'm like, what did you do in 727 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 6: the offseason? 728 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 12: Yeah? 729 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 6: I put on some upper body weight. He tried to 730 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 6: strengthen his shoulders and his upper body because he had 731 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,479 Speaker 6: the shoulder injury the season before. So to your point, 732 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 6: he wanted to be a little more stout in the box, 733 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 6: and so he changed some of his training methods. But 734 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 6: one thing you can never train and or teach, and 735 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 6: it's what Vance Joseph used to say, he runs into 736 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 6: the darkness. He's fearless. He will run in there. I mean, 737 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 6: we all remember the game in Seattle years ago where 738 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 6: he knocked out two Seattle Seahawk running backs. He's by 739 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 6: far the biggest guy in the field, yet he plays 740 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 6: with such a tenacity that is just inherent. It's in 741 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 6: his DNA. You can't teach that. 742 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 5: Eighty and Craig both talked about, you know, about me 743 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 5: playing defense. You know, I was afraid of the darkness. 744 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 5: So that's the move, that's all. I didn't like the darkness. 745 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 5: I need a little night like I need a little nightlight. 746 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 4: The Baker finished with eighty seven total tackles, as I mentioned, 747 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 4: in Orlando over the weekend for the Pro Bowl, as 748 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 4: was our colleague Danny Sirek. Those two had a conversation 749 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 4: on Friday, but a Baker reflecting back on his twenty 750 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 4: twenty three season. 751 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 14: I definitely feel like, you know, I've had one of 752 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 14: the best seasons in my career personally. I know, you know, 753 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 14: the individual accolades and stats haven't been there to interceptions 754 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 14: and plays on the football, But I just take what 755 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 14: the offense give me, and I just try to do 756 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 14: my job. 757 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 4: At a high level, and that's exactly what he's done 758 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 4: since twenty seventeen. There is no defensive back that has 759 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 4: more games of ten or more tackles than Buddha Baker. 760 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 4: To your point, Roy, yeah, maybe no splash plays, but 761 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 4: you're making the routine play and how many times do 762 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: we see players look for that highlight play versus the 763 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 4: routine play. Buddha Baker makes all the plays just and 764 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 4: get a lot of the other stuff as far as 765 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 4: the interceptions, passes, defense, sacks, but he is making the 766 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 4: sure tackles and also part of that conversation that Buddha 767 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 4: had with Danny Sirek is part of sideline exchange. Buddha 768 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 4: Baker reflecting on what he liked out of gm Mont, 769 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 4: the joustin Ford and head coach Jonathan Gannon in their first. 770 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 14: Year, definitely feel like they've built a foundation of, you know, 771 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 14: the mentality of how you go into work each and 772 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 14: every day and how you prepare as a you know, 773 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 14: of course the student of the game, and this league 774 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 14: is about winning, so that winning culture is definitely something 775 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 14: that I feel like they're bringing over and brought over. 776 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 14: So definitely excited for the future. 777 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 4: Excited to see Buddha Baker play a full season as well, 778 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 4: because you really get the sense of Buddha Baker's value 779 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 4: to the team when he's not on the field. Paul, 780 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 4: and how many games we can sighte off the top 781 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 4: of our head when Budda Baker is either not on 782 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 4: the field, not on the sideline, And how the rest 783 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 4: of the defense or the rest of the team reacts 784 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 4: or dare I say, doesn't react. 785 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 6: And you know what we found out at the end 786 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 6: of the year. A number of Cardinals players on the 787 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 6: defensive side of the ball just flat told me said, look, 788 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 6: almost every game they're purposely going away from number three. 789 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 6: The quarterback will break the huddle, where's number three? Because 790 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 6: I'm going the other way? And there were a number 791 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 6: of games where the final gun would end the red 792 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 6: midfield and guys would say, yeah, hey, guess what, Buddha, 793 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 6: we weren't going your way today. It was in the 794 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 6: game plan. We had no intention of testing you. Ever, 795 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 6: So the lack of spash plays really was the lack 796 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 6: of targets because guys just weren't going after him. 797 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 4: Make sure you get those season ticket priority lists, get 798 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 4: your name on that to see Buddha Baker and the 799 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals at twenty twenty four State Farm Stadium next season. 800 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 4: Good Asycardinals dot com forward slash prior to you list. 801 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 4: This is the Arizona Cardinals radio network. 802 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 9: Kittle has got it and the forty nine ers are 803 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 9: going to the Super Bowl. 804 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 2: Bet on red Beeba Las Vegas. 805 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 9: Come on, Christian McCaffrey's going to his first Super Bowl. 806 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: Rock Verdy's going for Super Bowl. 807 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 9: The forty nine Ers have won this crazy championship game 808 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 9: and they are going to the Super Bowl. 809 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 2: This game is over, and you can doubt the Chiefs. 810 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 15: You can dislike the Chiefs, you can disrespect the Chiefs. 811 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 15: You're gonna have to deal with the Chiefs being the 812 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 15: AFC champions for the fourth time in five seasons. The 813 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 15: Chiefs have the Lamar Hunt Trophy and they're taking it 814 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 15: to Vegas for Super Bowl fifty. 815 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 4: Eight, a rematch four years ago when the Chiefs scored 816 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 4: the game's final twenty one points and beat the forty 817 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 4: nine Ers in Super Bowl fifty four. Now the rematch 818 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 4: if you will. 819 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, the rosters have changed. 820 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 4: But Super Bowl fifty eight coming up on Sunday. By 821 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 4: the way, Greg Papa on forty nine Ers Radio, Mitch 822 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: Holtis on Chiefs Radio, as we walking back here to 823 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 4: the Cardinals Red Sea Report presented by a seat Geek 824 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 4: your ticket to great Seats. All right, Roy dissects this 825 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 4: matchup on Sunday, the last two teams standing and the 826 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 4: last game to be played of the twenty twenty three season. 827 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 5: Well, there's no surprise for me. Prior to the season, 828 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 5: I felt like, unfortunately I had to say that the 829 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 5: forty nine Ers, you know, man, the man they were, 830 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 5: had the best players, the best eleven players from the 831 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 5: beginning to the middle to the end, and they still 832 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 5: are in the Super Bowl. I think overall team the best. 833 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 5: But I'm not going against that quarterback. I'm not. We 834 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 5: always talk about quarterbacks or the difference between winning and 835 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 5: losing in this NFL. I know a lot of times 836 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 5: you say, hey, the quarterback gets more pressure then they 837 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 5: get most I mean, they get most credit when they 838 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 5: win and they get more when they lose. Well, that's why, 839 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 5: because they indeed they are both of those. He's just 840 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 5: that good. I think that the only difference between this 841 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 5: football team is going to be the fact that the 842 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 5: Chiefs are able to run the football against the forty 843 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 5: nine Ers. That is the only difference. Even with the 844 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 5: best quarterback. They have the best opportunity to run the 845 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 5: ball and the best quarterback and that's why. But as 846 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 5: far as talent, without questioning, the forty nine Ers are 847 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 5: the best team, but they will not win. 848 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 6: And the Niners gave of one hundred and eighty two 849 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 6: yards rushing against Detroit. You know, Kansas City's playing its 850 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 6: best ball. Niners are not playing their best ball right now. 851 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 6: And I love how the Niners Twitter account after that 852 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 6: game clinching call tweeted out against all odds going to 853 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 6: Super Bowl fifty eight. They've literally been favored in every 854 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 6: single game this year, including the playoffs. To your point, 855 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 6: they have arguably the most talented roster in the league 856 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 6: against all odds. As if there's some sort of underdoing, 857 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 6: come on now. 858 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 4: By the way, this matchup not only features two very 859 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 4: good offenses, but two of the top three defenses in 860 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 4: the league. As far as scoring defenses, the Chiefs ranked second, 861 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers ranked third. With that set, I'm 862 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 4: not expecting a low scoring game because you have Patrick 863 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 4: Mahomes and you have Brock Purdy and those offensive weapons. 864 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 4: I'm expecting a little bit of a shootout and then 865 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 4: maybe it gets close in the fourth quarter, Paul, and 866 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 4: it comes down to maybe a defensive stop or a 867 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 4: field goal late. I'm looking forward to this game on Sunday. 868 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 6: Here's the big question. Let's boil it down to this. 869 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 6: Can they stop Travis kelce He has been unstopable in 870 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 6: the playoffs and you saw what he did against Baltimore 871 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 6: eleven catches on eleven targets, a touchdown. I mean, what 872 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 6: are the Niners gonna do against Travis kelcey because he 873 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 6: has been killing teams in the playoffs. 874 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,720 Speaker 4: We will see on Sunday forty nine Ers and Chiefs. 875 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 4: Then we'll talk about it next Tuesday. Here on the 876 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 4: Cardinals Red Sewer Report special thanks to Jim Almahundro, Cody Fincher, 877 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 4: Jamal Gumo, Roy Green, Paul Calvic. I'm Craig Real Lou. 878 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 4: This has been the Cardinals Red Sea Report on the 879 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 880 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: You've been listening to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. 881 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 2: It is caught by McBride. 882 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 3: Hey, it's a touchdown boot a Baker with the sack, 883 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 3: strip the ball her. 884 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 2: He's gonna score touchdown, Oh baby. 885 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,439 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report is brought to you by 886 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals mobile app, visit Azycardinals dot com, slash app, 887 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: touchdown Cardinals when. 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