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Speaker 3: And there are problems in this country between police and community.

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Speaker 1: And this is what he did, and so we are

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Speaker 1: is always have been the number one threat to our society.

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Speaker 5: But I'm also very proud that my wife was white.

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Speaker 2: The practice club bitches.

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Speaker 6: All right, Sherenny, please tell me why was I your

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Speaker 1: Well, Donkey Today for Wednesday, January seventeenth goes to Republican

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Speaker 1: presidential candidaten't Form a Governor of South Carolina, Nicki Haley.

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Speaker 1: I've had the opportunity to have a conversation with Nicki Haley.

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Speaker 1: When I Guess hosted The Daily Show last November, I

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Speaker 1: had her on. I've also said repeatedly, I personally believe

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party should move away from Donald Trump and

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Speaker 1: the ninety one criminal charges to impeachments in the host

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Speaker 1: of other bs he brings to the table. That's an understatement.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the GOP needs to move away from him,

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Speaker 1: get behind Nicki. But they won't because the white supremacist

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Speaker 1: I don't believe anyway. And the GOP, if you know

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Speaker 2: Back in the office, are so close.

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Speaker 1: They're really taking over and punishing who they hate. Why

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Speaker 2: But those aren't the reasons we are gathered here today.

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Speaker 1: We are gathered here today because Nicki Haley is in

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Speaker 1: the news this week because she is the latest American

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Speaker 1: politician to say America is not a racist country. Her

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Speaker 1: statement was, America has never been a racist country, which.

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Speaker 2: Is complete malarkey. Cap is the kid say, let's listen,

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Speaker 2: are you a racist party?

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Speaker 3: We're not a racist country, Brian. We've never been a

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Speaker 3: today is better than yesterday. Are we perfect?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: I know I face racism when I was growing up,

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Speaker 2: It was then. Yap.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't even the question. The question was are you

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Speaker 1: a racist party? But Nicki said America has never been

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Speaker 1: a racist country. But then she turned around and said

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Speaker 1: she has experienced racism. That's because there can be systemic

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Speaker 1: why we have to say this ever so often. With

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Speaker 2: It's not always you know, conscious.

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Speaker 1: But in America, what racism absolutely is and always has been,

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Speaker 1: it's systemic and structural. Remember when the great black philosopher,

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Speaker 1: but that's just the top layer.

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Speaker 1: You was who you was for you got here. That's America,

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Speaker 1: the foundation of this country. It's systemic and structural racism.

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Speaker 1: It's deeply embedded in systems, laws, written, the unwritten policies,

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Speaker 2: Wants to be honest about it.

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Speaker 1: This isn't the first time I've given the biggest heat

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Speaker 1: See back in twenty twenty one, just three short years ago,

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Speaker 2: Hear me, clearly, America is not a racist country.

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Speaker 1: Camp Well, that statement, for the next few days caused

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Speaker 1: not they thought America was a racist country. They asked,

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Speaker 2: But they asked my og and he said.

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Speaker 5: This a racist country would never elect of Barack Obama

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Speaker 5: arguing about whether or not this is a racist country.

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Speaker 1: They also have Vice President Kamala Harris, is America a

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Speaker 7: And she had this to say, well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: Cap Nicki Haley Republican, Tim Scott, Republican, Jim Clyburn, Democrat,

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Speaker 1: The Vice President Kamala Harris said America is not a

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Speaker 1: They are actively trying to prevent us from ever having

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Speaker 1: black communities. We're talking about, guess what, America being racist.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not smart enough to discuss that.

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Speaker 1: But once again, you can't talk about that without talking

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Speaker 1: Regardless of party, nobody talks about race, honestly, because when

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Speaker 1: them calvics. Okay, Democrats advocate for anti racist policies but

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Speaker 2: It's stupid and all.

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Speaker 1: Because they are afraid to turn off hypothetical, imaginary swing voters.

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Speaker 2: I know it's strange, but that's.

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Speaker 1: Why knowing how to communicate is important, and you will

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Speaker 1: honest conversations about racing this country. You will win some

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Speaker 1: But in regard to the racism, you all are saying

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Speaker 2: Yes it did.

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Speaker 4: Now let's open up the phone lines eight hundred and

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Speaker 4: five eight five, one oh five one. This morning in

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Speaker 4: and Brian. He was on a Pivot podcast Fantastic Conversation

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Speaker 4: talking about breaking generational curses.

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Speaker 2: This is what he said. Let me read something.

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Speaker 6: It's been on my phone for five since I met y'all.

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Speaker 6: Say break break generational curses. Quit yelling at your kids

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Speaker 6: before they go to bed and inspect them sleep well.

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Speaker 6: Quit yelling at your kids in the morning, right after that,

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Speaker 6: You set the tone for your children.

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Speaker 2: Set the tone.

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Speaker 6: I live it.

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Speaker 1: I want I encourage everybody to go listen to that

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Speaker 1: episode of the Pivot with uh, you know, Dad's Bryant,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I really just want to know when

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Speaker 1: of Daz Bryant's mouth, how does it make you feel

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Speaker 4: What do you feel when you hear those words? I

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Speaker 4: will discuss when we come back. Eight hundred and five

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Speaker 4: eight five, one oh five one. Let's talk about it.

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