1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: This is a breaking news update from Bloomberg instant reaction 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 2: and analysis from our three thousand journalists and analysts around 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: the world. I'm Joe Matthew alongside Credie Gupta in Washington, 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: where we come to you with breaking news. 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 3: This evening. 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Conservative activist Charlie Kirk has been confirmed dead by the 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: President of the United States. President Trump's posting quote, the 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: great and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead unquote. 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 4: Kirk was speaking at Utah Valley University when he was 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 4: shot on stage, prominent Republican Jason Chaffitt saying he only 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 4: heard a single shot ring out. The shot that presumably 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 4: struck and according to the President. 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: Killed Kirk. 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 4: Moments before the President confirmed his death, House Speaker Mike 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: Johnson said this from Capitol Hill. 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 5: This is the testable what's happened. Political violence has become 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 5: all too common in American society, and this is not 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 5: who we are. It violates the core principles of our country. 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 5: Are Dude Juday of Christian heritage, our civil society, our 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 5: American way of life, and it must stop. We need 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 5: every political figure, we need everyone who has a platform 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 5: to say this loudly and clearly. We can settle disagreements 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 5: and disputes in a civil manner, and political violence must 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 5: be called out and it has to stop. 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: This is a fast moving story, and we have our 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: reporters covering it with much more. Tonight, Bloomberg's Kate Sullivan 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: joins us from the White House, and Bloomberg's Mike Shepherd 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: is with us here in our Washington bureau. Sheppe, let's 30 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: start with you right now, as someone who's covered politics 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: for a long time around here in the element of 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: political violence that has crept back into our culture over 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: the past couple of years, something hard to ignore with 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: regard to this young man, someone who started a movement 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: as a teenager and helped to lift Donald Trump into 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: the White House. 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: What do we make of this latest turn. 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 6: Well, this is Joe As who pointed it really does 39 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 6: point to this fear many have had about an increase 40 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 6: in political violence. We've seen the rhetoric over the past 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 6: decade or so really intensify and an edge creep into 42 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 6: the conversation comes to the core cultural and political and 43 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 6: social and policy issues that surround daily life in the 44 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 6: US and we've seen flashes of this violence actually manifest itself. 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 6: Of course, more than a year ago then candidate Donald 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 6: Trump himself was the target of two assassination attempts, the one, 47 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 6: of course in Butler, Pennsylvania, that was so high profile 48 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 6: when he emerged to say fight, fight, Fight. But then 49 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 6: more recently in June of this year, we saw two 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 6: Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota who were targeted in their homes 51 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 6: at night by a gumman who was politically motivated, according 52 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 6: to authorities there. So this is the kind of incident 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 6: that stokes the concern that the rhetoric and the intensified 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 6: back and forth between the various and quite divided sides 55 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 6: here in this country can spill over into violence. And 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 6: that's something that we just heard the House Speaker address 57 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 6: moments ago. 58 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 7: Mike, I think I'm. 59 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 4: Asking you the question that a lot of people around 60 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: the country are asking, which is is there a policy 61 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: response and policy fallout that we can expect off the 62 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: back of this. 63 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 6: Well, for the immediate moment, there will be calls for 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 6: prayer for Charlie Kirk and for his family in the 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 6: wake of this terrible incident, and the calls from both 66 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 6: sides really to step back from the brink of violence. 67 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 6: But then the actual policy steps that always gets more 68 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 6: tricky and sad to say, in many respects, it is 69 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 6: to be expected that each side will fall back on 70 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 6: the norm, with Democrats perhaps urging more control of firearms 71 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 6: and access to firearms, and Republicans pointing to questions about 72 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 6: extremism on the left left. And so when it comes 73 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 6: to a policy prescription emerging from this or for example, 74 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 6: the incident in Minnesota just weeks ago, the school shooting 75 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 6: at a Catholic school in Minnesota, it is more of 76 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 6: the same that we're likely to hear on this. And 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 6: really the whole issue, Quitty is the question of political 78 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 6: rhetoric and people now willing to take that next step 79 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: and follow on their worst instincts and urges as we 80 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 6: have seen fomented and promoted on social media for several 81 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 6: years now. 82 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 4: Blomerus, Mike Shephard, we thank you so much for bringing 83 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: us up to speed. I want to go to Kate Sullivan, who's. 84 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: At the White House for us. 85 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 4: Kate, just bring us up to speed on the reaction 86 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: where you are. 87 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 8: So we're seeing an outpouring of messages of prayer and 88 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 8: condolences from across the White House and the broader Trump administration. 89 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 8: If a president called Charlie Kirk legendary, he said, nobody 90 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 8: understood or have the heart of the youth in the 91 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 8: United States of America better than Charlie. You know, Charlie 92 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 8: Kirk was a fixture on the campaign trail. I saw 93 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 8: him at countless events across many different battleground states when 94 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 8: I was covering the Trump campaign last year. The President 95 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 8: has credited him with really boosting his voter his turnout 96 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 8: among young people, and getting young people excited about his campaign. 97 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 8: You know, he founded Charlie Kirk founded Turning Point USA, 98 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 8: which specifically advocates for conservative politics on high school and 99 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 8: college campuses. So we saw Charlie Kirk post many, many 100 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 8: events across college campuses, particularly during the campaign season. You know, 101 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 8: before news came out that he had actually died. Jd 102 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 8: Vance posted three different times on social media, you know, 103 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 8: posting a photo of himself and Kirk, saying Kirk would 104 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 8: answer any question and talk to everyone. So you're seeing, 105 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 8: you know, the close ties that Kirk has with many 106 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 8: people in the White House, many different Republican officials. We're 107 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 8: all just reacting to this horrific news right now. 108 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: Somewhat unusual to have this announcement come from the President 109 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: of the United States himself. Kate, is the Press Office 110 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: or Communications office saying anything about the fact that the 111 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: commander in chief told us this as opposed to Kirk's family. 112 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 8: No, and that's a that's a great point in question. 113 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 8: All we know is what Trump has posted, and we're seeing, 114 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 8: you know, after he posted, then Jdvan's posted, and so 115 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 8: a lot of people are of course taking cues from 116 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 8: the President and reacting to this news that as you're 117 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 8: completely correct that Trump broke. 118 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 3: On true social himself. 119 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Kate Sullivan at the White House, Kate, thank you. 120 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: As always, we just heard from the President again on 121 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: social media. He was typing while we were talking. In 122 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: honor of Charlie Kirk. He writes, a truly great American patriot. 123 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: I am ordering all American flags throughout the United States 124 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: lowered to half mast until Sunday evening at six pm. 125 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: Our political panel is with us here in studio. 126 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 2: Christin Hahn, our democratic strategist partner at Rock Solutions, joins 127 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: us alongside Marigi Lespie, Blue Stack strategies. 128 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 3: It's great to see both of you. 129 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: A Republican strategist, I'll start with you in this case, Moura, 130 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: talk to about the significance of what this means for 131 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: the Republican movement, if not the MAGA movement, and why 132 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: the White House is so deeply involved. Wy did we 133 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: learn this from the President? 134 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's no surprise. 135 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 9: The President feels pretty strongly about his loyalists, those who 136 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 9: have been his champions. And I think that the biggest 137 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 9: takeaway for me is to say that this isn't about 138 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 9: being Republican, this isn't about being democrat. This is about 139 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 9: political violence in this country and why it's so prevalent here. 140 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: That's a problem, and. 141 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 9: I don't know how we screen for it. I don't 142 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 9: know how you can't really necessarily see hate in someone's heart. 143 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 9: And so we have a bigger conversation to have here 144 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 9: because this is a man, whether you agreed with him 145 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 9: or not, or viet really. 146 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 7: Disagree with him. 147 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 9: This is a husband, a father, someone's son. And I 148 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 9: just think that we have lost sight of really our 149 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 9: humanity when it comes to our political discourse in this country. 150 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 9: Whether it was from Gabby Giffords, to steve'scalise to happen 151 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 9: in Minnesota, to the President himself, and to watch this now, 152 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 9: and for anyone who has been on social media and 153 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 9: those videos are playing, whether you wanted to see it 154 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 9: or not, it is truly. I mean, I was sitting here. 155 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 9: I'm sure you're all feeling the same, but stick to 156 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 9: my stomach about what this means, but also just seeing it. 157 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 9: But we have to get a handle on it. And 158 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 9: I don't know what that answer is, but it's not 159 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 9: Republican or Democrat. It is us as Americans, and we 160 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 9: have a problem here. 161 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: Kristen, just way in your immediate reaction, I. 162 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 10: Mean this obviously, I totally agree. This is not a 163 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 10: one party problem or the other, as we've clearly seen 164 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 10: throughout the years. And you know, I was on Capitol 165 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 10: Hill working for the Bluetdog Coalition, of which congress Woman 166 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 10: Gifford's was a member, and you know you're a communications 167 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 10: person trying to write statements. I remember just breaking down, 168 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 10: crying and them trying to gather myself and pull myself together. 169 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 10: I think an element, you know, it's hard to figure 170 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 10: out exactly how to get at this, but an element 171 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 10: is the rhetoric that's coming out of you know, besides 172 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 10: the isisle sometimes and toning that down, treating people like 173 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 10: humans and your leaders and the present starts with the 174 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 10: President of the United States. People listen to what he's saying, 175 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 10: and you know, I mean, and members of Congress and 176 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 10: members of the Senate and having an honest dialogue that's 177 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 10: civil with you know, your next door neighbor. 178 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: I think, you know, is really important. 179 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 10: I don't think that maybe fixes everything, because like you said, 180 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 10: you can't see hate in somebody's heart. You can't necessarily 181 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 10: tell what they're going to do, but you know, it 182 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 10: can definitely start there. 183 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: More reminds us of the Steves police shooting that was 184 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: years ago. The Capitol police shooting was what nineteen ninety nine. 185 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: This has been a conversation in Washington three years and 186 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: whether we should provide more security for lawmakers who in 187 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: many cases are dipping into allowances to find private security 188 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: and protection for themselves. You worked for a former speaker 189 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: in John Bayner Mara. 190 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: Does that need to happen? 191 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 9: You know, I think it's a conversation to be had 192 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 9: about how much members make currently. You know, I know 193 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 9: that that's not necessarily a popular conversation, but when you 194 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 9: look at their salary, if they are, you know, in 195 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 9: a situation where they need to get security, their salary 196 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 9: is not really going to cover that plus their housing 197 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 9: here in DC. So you think about that, that may 198 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 9: be a conversation to have some built in funding for 199 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 9: security needs. But I think it's Christian's point there about 200 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 9: talking and how we use our words referring to our 201 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 9: political opponents as enemies. That's a problem, right, We can 202 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 9: do better, and I think that for every member of Congress, 203 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 9: anyone who's running for office, and anyone who sits, you know, 204 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 9: talking on politics on TV, should should try and do 205 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 9: better and make a promise to try and do that, 206 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 9: because I think that our words have impact, and how 207 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 9: we talk to one another as a Republican talking to 208 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 9: a Democrat and be on a panel together, that makes 209 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 9: I do think that people at home watch that, and 210 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 9: how we handle our discourse here really could make an 211 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 9: impact at home well. 212 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 10: And as far as the security needs go, just look 213 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 10: at the members of the January sixth committee. Right they 214 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 10: started getting they didn't have a secret service or Capitol 215 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 10: Police security twenty four to seven until they all started 216 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 10: getting death threats, a lot of them on both sides 217 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 10: of the aisle, And people were going to their houses 218 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 10: at home when they were here in Washington, d C. 219 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 10: And going to their kids' schools, and so, you know, 220 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 10: we afforded them the protection of the Capitol Police, who 221 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 10: do such a wonderful job at protecting our officials. But 222 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 10: you know, this is all members of Congress. I think, 223 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 10: you know, the move to give them a little bit 224 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 10: of money to you know, out of their current allotment 225 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 10: to provide some of that security for theirselves and their family. 226 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: Was probably think the result is unfortunately, fewer people wanting 227 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: to run for elected office right when we're having conversations 228 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: like these. Kristen Haunt and Morigi Espie, I thank you 229 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: so much for the immediate response. 230 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: Now as we turn to Capitol. 231 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: Who joining us now live from the Capitol Republican Senator 232 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: Mike ground So, South Dakota, member of the Senate Armed 233 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: Services Committee. Senator, it's good to have you here. It's 234 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: not what we expected that we would be talking about this. 235 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: Can you weigh in on this, your reaction to what 236 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: took place, how we got here, and whether we need 237 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: to have a serious conversation about capital police security for 238 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: lawmakers like yourself. 239 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: Well, let me begin just by offering my condolences, my thoughts, 240 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: my prayers to Charlie's. 241 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 7: Family, to his spouse, and to their children. 242 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: This is not something that any of us on either 243 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: side of any political I don't want to see happen. Ever, 244 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: and so this is simply very very unfortunate, and we 245 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: offer our thoughts and our prayers, and you know, look, 246 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: this is just a bad, bad message from what we 247 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: would hope otherwise would have been an opportunity for peaceful 248 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: discussion on specific issues, talking about you know, our differences 249 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: in a. 250 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 7: Very very normal way, a way in which. 251 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: People can have a discussion, having differences, having different points 252 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: of view, and still remaining as friends and as colleagues. 253 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 7: And so to see Charlie Kirk in. 254 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: This particular method, I mean, this is just a terrible, 255 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: terrible day for America. And once again it is something 256 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: that I think with regard to what we do here 257 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: in the capital of the United States and the way 258 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: that we treat one another is something that should be 259 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: an example that you don't have to have violence in 260 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: the middle of political discussions. 261 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: CenTra reums do we need to hear from the President 262 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: in a call for unity to end some of this 263 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: political violence. Is that what we're waiting for. 264 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 6: You know. 265 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: I think the first thing that the President did was 266 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: to offer his thoughts, his prayers, his condolences to Charlie's family. 267 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: I think that's, you know, the first thing that we 268 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: all want to do. And then along with that, it 269 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: is an opportunity for us to once again tell the 270 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: rest of America and the rest of the world that 271 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: we can have different points of view. 272 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 7: And not be violent about it. 273 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: And so anything that any of us can do to 274 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: offer as an example the way that we should treat 275 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: one another with respect, that's a positive thing. I think 276 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: that's what Charlie Kirk would have wanted to have had happen, 277 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: And most certainly. 278 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 7: That's something that I think we should continue to carry on, which. 279 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: Is peacefully discussed, have your different points of view, argue, 280 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: debate it. 281 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 7: It's healthy for America. 282 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: But our founding fathers wanted that to be done in 283 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: such a fashion that we could still be one strong, 284 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: unified nation even if we have different points of view. 285 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with having differing points of view. 286 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate your point of view on that, Senator. 287 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: We were looking at some pulling from ipsos from back 288 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: in July that asked voters about political extremism and threats 289 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: to our democracy. This poll with Reuters showed twenty seven 290 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: percent of Americans ranked political extremism as the most important 291 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: problem facing the US. 292 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: How about you. 293 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: I can just tell you from personal experience. Here in Washington, 294 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: we work across some of the most polarized areas in 295 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: terms of ideas and ideologies. But if you talk to 296 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: members of the Senate, Republican and Democrat. 297 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 7: Alike, we get along with one another. We have business 298 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 7: with one another. 299 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: We go to lunch together, we have a prayer, breakfast together, 300 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: we have Bible studies together. 301 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 7: We are not enemies. 302 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: We may have different points of view, but that doesn't 303 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: get across very often. And so the example that we 304 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: should be able to offer is one of unity in 305 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: terms of making America better than what it is today. 306 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: Our founding fathers said that they wanted to create a 307 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: more perfect union. They didn't say our union was perfect 308 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: to begin with. They wanted it more perfect. That's what 309 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: we should be focused on here and sometimes in the 310 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: middle of our strong emotions. Here we forget to finish 311 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: with that particular part of the message, which is regardless 312 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: of our points of view, we're Americans first. We treat 313 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: each other with respect and with dignity. And here in 314 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: the Capital, in the offices that we have, I can 315 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: tell you personally and that behind closed doors, Republicans and 316 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: Democrats alike get along. We respect one another, we consider 317 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: each other as colleagues and friends, and we would hope 318 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: that across to America, whether it's a coffee clotch, or 319 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: whether it's a political meeting, a city council meeting, or 320 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: a state legislative body, that we remember that we are 321 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: all Americans and that we have a whole lot more 322 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: in common than we'll ever disagree on. 323 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: Senator, it's great to have you, and I appreciate your 324 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: candor in talking about this very sensitive issue because I've 325 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: been on that roatanda and I have seen Republican members 326 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: like yourself get along quite well with Democrats, and I 327 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: wish more people saw that side of the Capitol. Mike 328 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: Grounds of South Dakota, thank you for being with us.