1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Weston Hodkoitz. We're coming to you 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: hear from our studios at lambeau Field, and unfortunately, Wes, 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: we have to talk about a difficult defeat Sunday in Atlanta. 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: The Packers fall to the Falcons twenty five to twenty four, 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: getting outscored thirteen to nil in the fourth quarter. Packers 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: let this one get away. There's no two ways about it. 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: They played pretty darn good football for three quarters, but 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: it all kind of unraveled on both sides of the 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: ball in the fourth quarter, and they came back from 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: Atlanta with a lot of regrets. 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the tough thing about this and 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: I know I notice it with our fans the Insider 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: Inbox column. These losses are always difficult because you don't 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: get blown out, you don't you know, there isn't one 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: thing that you can point to. It's just fifteen minutes 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: of regrettable football at the end of that game. And Yep, 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: Matt Lafleura, it's not a big thing. I know, it's 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: not gonna draw the most headlines, but he hit it 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: on the head afterwards, and he reiterated on Monday, complimentary 22 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: football in this league is so important. And when you 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: look at the Atlanta Falcons and what they did in 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and the people that stepped up, Yeah, 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: Bjhon Robinson's pretty darn good. Yeah, Desmond Ritter made some 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: good plays, some good checks. But it was across the 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: board with players stepping up. For the green Bay Packers, 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: they just didn't have that one guy that kind of 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: put it on their shoulders. So not that you need 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: it to be one guy, but sometimes that's where you 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: look at the game against Chicago and you're like, well, 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones, that offensive line that gave them the spark. 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: Green Bay needed a spark in the fourth quarter, and 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: they just couldn't find one. 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the thing, is it? As that fourth 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: quarter was unfolding, the Packers began it with a twenty 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: four to twelve lead. The Early in the fourth quarter, 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: the Falcons hit a forty five yard deep shot down 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: the field that put them into scoring range. And so 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: even though the Packers were up by twelve point, once 41 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: they hit that big shot, they were down in the 42 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: red zone. It was like, okay, you know, you know, 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: this is game on for an entire fourth quarter and 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: the Packers just never, whether it was on offense or defense, 45 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: were never able to make a play that even started 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: to shift the momentum. If if the defense got a 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: third down stop, they gave up a fourth down conversion, 48 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: or the Falcons were kicking a field goal, the offense 49 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: was unable to get a first down. The last three 50 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: possessions a three and out, a three and out, and 51 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: a four and out. Both sides of the ball had 52 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: opportunities to turn the tie to get things going back 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: in the right direction. And it's really too bad because 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: if the Packers had been able to either hang on 55 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: or find a way with that final possession with fifty 56 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: seven seconds left to get the points that would have 57 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: been needed to win this game, it would have been 58 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: such an uplifting victory. Because you went into this game 59 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: without Christian Watson, without Aaron Jones. You find out ninety 60 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: minutes before kickoff, David Baktiari can't play. Those are three 61 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: of your most important, most valuable players on the entire offense. 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: Yet everything was going just fine until the end of 63 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: the game, and give the Falcons credit when the play 64 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: when the Chips were down, as you said in Insider Inbox, 65 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: when the chips were down and the plays had to 66 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: be made, the Falcons were the ones that made them. 67 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: The Packers didn't. 68 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: Yep, And unfortunately not every quarter is created equal. In 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, if you win that one as decisively 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: as the Falcons did one hundred and sixty six total 71 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: yards to eleven, obviously the points swing that you just 72 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: touched on, it's going to be something that catapults you 73 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: to a victory. To quickly pull a great line from 74 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: the wonderful Dom Capers, I will start with the positives 75 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: for a second, and the positive that my takeaway was 76 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: is that this game showed you again how much of 77 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: a gamer Jordan Love is a lot of things working 78 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: against this offense. You don't have Christian wattson in week two. Well, 79 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: now you know you're not gonna have Aaron Jones. You 80 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: don't have your all pro left tackle, you lose Elton Jenkins. 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: All the depth that I spent training camp talking about 82 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: of oh you got the veterans where you need them, 83 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: Well it got young real quick, and Jordan Love still 84 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: rallied the guys. He still made the most of it. 85 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: And I love the play call. I probably have beaten 86 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: it to death more than anybody else on the beat, 87 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: but being aggressive early on with the flea flicker giving 88 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 2: them something to sort of set the tone, to give 89 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: you that feather in your cap. Matt Lafleur and the offense. 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: I like the way they started this thing off with 91 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: the first fifteen scripted plays. It was just a matter 92 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: of execution and the green bit Packers, for better or worse, 93 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: it kind of turned into this game where you either 94 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: were on a scoring drive you kind of were going 95 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: three and out, and unfortunately the three and oults came 96 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: at the wrong time in the fourth quarter. 97 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to get to the young players 98 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: for the Packers that stepped up on offense and gave 99 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: them a chance to win this game. But I think 100 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: the other thing, and we don't need to go through 101 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: chapter and verse on everything that went wrong in the 102 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. There was you know, the fourth and four 103 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: with the read option play, the zone read play by 104 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: the Falcons. You regret that when there's the third and 105 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: one on offense with aj Dillon at that one. But 106 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur also made a point on Monday to say, hey, 107 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's not as though the first three quarters 108 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: of this game film were you know, pristine, totally clean football. 109 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: The Packers had a ton of missed opportunities, whether you're 110 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, taking a delay of game on 111 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: a field goal which then pushes you know, the Packers 112 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: five yards further back, and Lafleur decides not to try 113 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: from fifty six yards and play the field position game 114 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: there off off of the first possession, so the flea 115 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: flicker which drew the defensive pass interference ends up going 116 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: to waste there. Rasull Douglass gets an interception early in 117 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: the ballgame, but then on a third down you have 118 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: a miscommunication on pass protection. Jordan Love gets sacked by 119 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: a free runner, a free blitzer, so that turnover is 120 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: not turn into points again the complimentary football thing. Defensively, 121 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: the Packers dropped two interceptions that hit him right in 122 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: the hands, right in the chest. However you want, you 123 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: want to say, it's so there were there were all 124 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: of these missed opportunities where yes, the Packers had a 125 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: twenty four to twelve lead after three quarters, but when 126 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: you're looking at it strictly from the Green Bay perspective, 127 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: and certainly there were things Atlanta did wrong, and they 128 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: had their regrets in the first three quarters as well, 129 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: But the Packers really felt like they should have been 130 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: ahead by a lot more than twelve points after three quarters. 131 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: But then what it comes down to is in the 132 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, And this is what the NFL is all about, 133 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: is when it's crunch time, when it's game on the line, 134 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: if you want to call it winning time or whatever 135 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: phrase you want to use. What you do in those 136 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: moments either either magnifies your regrets from earlier in the game, 137 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: or it erases them, it takes them away. The Packers 138 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,119 Speaker 1: regrets became magnified, and the Falcons got to forget about 139 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: all theirs because they walked out with a win. 140 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, Mike, I don't want to pat 141 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: ourselves in the back, because that's now why I'm saying here. 142 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 2: But what did you and I talk about the most 143 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: last week? There were two big tangibles I thought were 144 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: in this matchup. It was, as you wrote in you know, 145 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: one last look, who wins the ground game? Where's that 146 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: game decided? And then the turnover margin Green they actually 147 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: managed to win the turnovers in this with that pick 148 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: from Rasoul Douglas. But how different is this football game 149 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: if that is three to zero or as Rasul even 150 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: said in the locker room afterwards, five oh five. Because 151 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: Rudy Ford had his hand on a ball. 152 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean there were yeah, there were some deflected balls 153 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: that deflected up in the air and the Packers couldn't 154 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: come down with him. 155 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: The jay Yere one would have been a spectacular play 156 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: if he made it. It would have been probably a 157 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: highlight reel type play. The real gut punch for me, though, 158 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: was the Quay one, just because it was almost a 159 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: carbon copy exactly Chicago. He had a own drop, he 160 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: had the read. It was something the Packers were looking 161 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: for and you just couldn't quite bring. 162 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: It in a young quarterback who just didn't see him 163 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: and threw the ball right to him. And and yeah, 164 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: that was it was You're right. It was a carbon 165 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: copy of Chicago. He caught the one in Chicago. He 166 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: didn't catch this one. That's what that's that happens. 167 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: And last thing I'll just say on this quickly, b 168 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: Jon Robinson came his advertise a really explosive young man 169 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: two way player, as I joked an insideerr inbox, not 170 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: even really a joke, it's the truth. You're kind of 171 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: happy that he didn't end up in the NFC North. 172 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy looks like he's gonna be a 173 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: real problem down in the South. But the other aspect 174 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: of it, tip your cap to Desmond Ridder, because I 175 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: didn't give him a whole lot of respect going in 176 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: this thing. I wasn't overlooking him. But you just to 177 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: see the stats. You see how they play conservatively, and 178 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: you're like, okay, like how good is this guy? What 179 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: they're trying to do, what Arthur Smith's trying to do 180 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: down there in Atlanta? The young man runs it really well. 181 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: He had some good checks that that that slant play 182 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: that Matt Lafleur talked about on the third down to 183 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: be Jon Robinson. People can talk whatever they want about 184 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: the containment on the keeper on the fourth and goal, Mike. 185 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: When I finally noticed he had the ball, he was 186 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: crossing the end zone. I mean, it was a really 187 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: good look. You have to defend it better. Yeah, but 188 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: Atlanta did an exceptional job of executing their offense, and 189 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: that was the difference. 190 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: Late yeah, I don't like. I don't want to. I 191 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: don't want to take credit away from Atlanta. I certainly don't. 192 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: But but I'm you know, I'm not going to be 193 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: on the Desmond Ridder bandwagon after what I thought should 194 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: have been a three interception game for a young quarterback. 195 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: I don't think he really played all that well quite frankly, 196 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: But the difference in the game was Bjon Robinson. Because yes, 197 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: the Packers struggled to stop the run all game long. 198 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: It was it was a problem. But what made it 199 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: a bigger problem is that when they were in position 200 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: on a lot of plays to stop the run and 201 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: the players were where they were supposed to be, Jon 202 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: Robinson just made guys miss. And so that's you know, 203 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: that's not about that's not about scheme, that's not about 204 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: the call, that's not about whatever. That's about getting a really, 205 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: really dynamic offensive weapon on the ground. And there was 206 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: one play Matt Lafuur even talked about it, and I 207 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: know exactly the one he's talking about, where Robinson made 208 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: four guys miss in a span of about a second 209 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: and a half. And that you know, we had talked 210 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: about that all last week, about about Okay, where is 211 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: your tackling going to be in this game? And are 212 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: you going to be able to is a mistackle going 213 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: to lead to an explosive run or is a mistackle 214 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,119 Speaker 1: just going to lead to a couple of extra yards? 215 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: And uh and Robinson was Robinson was the was the 216 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: difference in this game, hands down. When they had they 217 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: had those fourth and ones, they knew that we're just 218 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: gonna give the ball to number seven and he's gonna 219 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: find a way to uh to move the chains. And 220 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: even on some fourth and ones he's getting five seven 221 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: yard runs that are that are pushing the ball downfield 222 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: just too much, too much for the Packers to it 223 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: made a. 224 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: Good adjustment to I mean, they stopped trying to run 225 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: at Kenny Clark after the first quarter and they started 226 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: to get more of the wide zone going. And when 227 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: you have a guy that can accelerate that quickly and 228 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: being able to win on the edges. 229 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: And cut and cut that quickly and and and move 230 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: and the ship the shiftiness of it, and the Packers 231 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: just couldn't handle it. 232 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. That was a real challenge. And again 233 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: it's Mike, this isn't new. We we talked about this 234 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: even before the opener. The Packers have some real tests 235 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: coming up. Now. They're gonna avoid Elvin Kamara because it's 236 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: the suspension, and you know, but you still got Gibbs 237 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: after that, you still got you know, Josh Jacobs coming 238 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: down the pipe. They have some tough run offenses they're 239 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: gonna face, and you have to learn those lessons. 240 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's I think that's going to 241 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: be the tough thing, because you know how this league 242 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: works west. I mean, yes, opponents, you spend some time 243 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: looking at, you know, the previous year's game film and 244 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: whatnot when you're preparing early in the season. Once you 245 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: get a couple of games on film, then everybody's looking 246 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: at those in terms of how they game plan. This 247 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: performance run defense wise is now on film for every 248 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: single Packers opponent to look at and to pick apart 249 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: and to devise their game plan. The Packers are going 250 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: to be forced to stop the run to improve in 251 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: that area, and they can't. You're not just gonna be 252 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: able to take the field and say, all right, we're 253 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: going to score a bunch of points and take the 254 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: other team out of their running game. It was twenty 255 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: four to twelve going into the fourth quarter, and the 256 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: Falcons were like, no, we're not giving right, We're gonna 257 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep running the football and because they knew 258 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: there would be enough possessions left in the game to win, 259 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: and that's what they were able to do. 260 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: Did it with really good tempo too. I was impressed 261 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 2: by that they got in and out of their their 262 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: calls pretty quick, and that's that's not always easy to 263 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: do in run calls. 264 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: And that's where and that's where I do give rid 265 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: Or credit. And when you had mentioned the way he 266 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: ran some checks, checked out a certain things. You saw 267 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: the way they were running motions, getting a read on 268 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: what the Packers were doing defensively. They had the time 269 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: on the play clock to do that, and they made 270 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: the Packers pay. 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All Right, When you're talking about the bright 280 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: spots and what the Packers were able to do here, 281 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: it starts with the rookie wide receivers Jaden Reid with 282 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, Dontavian Wicks with another one. Wicks was the 283 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: target on the opening play flea flicker that drew the 284 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: pass interference penalty. Christian Watson was not in this game. 285 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs got a lot of attention from the Falcons 286 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: in their secondary, and those the two rookies the second 287 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: rounder and Reid the fifth rounder, and Wicks, those guys 288 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: stepped up and gave gave Jordan Love good targets and 289 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: they made some very efficient and important plays in this 290 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: football game. 291 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, you got a chance to see Greg and 292 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: Greg Jennings and James Jones right off the bat. I 293 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: did not in terms of actually covering them, But I 294 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: remember that twenty eleven season, and although I wasn't full 295 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: time on the beat yet, I remember watching Randall Cobb 296 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: and the limited opportunities he got that season. Just how 297 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: much poise he showed, and just for a guy that 298 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: entered the league at twenty years old, the first nineteen 299 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: ninety birth year in the National Football League, but he 300 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: looks so much more mature than that. Jayden Reid gives 301 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: me those same vibes. I mean, he's just a guy 302 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: that gets it. That's not to say that you know 303 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: he won't make mistakes. They're gonna come, yeah, But the 304 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: receiver position, and especially with him on punt returns, that 305 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: is a position where you can't be a deer in 306 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: the headlights. You have to be ready for it. You 307 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: have to be prepared, and you have to be able 308 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: to stand up at those times. I really like what 309 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: I've seen from Reid, and again it's going to be 310 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: a work in progress. The Packers have to find themselves here. 311 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: They got to rally back from this loss. But you 312 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: just sit there and think, man, oh man, if they 313 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: can get Christian Watson back, we'll see when it happens. 314 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: But the reps that Reid has taken, even Wix getting 315 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: a big confidence boost for his thirty two yard touchdown 316 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: in Romeo, Dobbs just being so consistent despite coming off 317 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: of that hamstring injury. The Packers have a wide array 318 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: of receiving options here, and I think a guy like 319 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: Reid is only going to keep getting better. 320 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And but even as good a game as Jayden 321 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: Reid had, they're dealing with the offense with Love and 322 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: Reid and the ups and downs that go along with it. 323 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: There was a play early in the game where Reid 324 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: didn't have his head turned and the ball kind of 325 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: whizzes past him right. And then on the first play 326 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: of the final drive, Love and Reed just not quite 327 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: on the same page where he's running a quick stop 328 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: route and Love thought maybe he was gonna, you know, 329 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: turn a different way or something, and and the balls 330 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: a little bit off target. So you're you're still you're 331 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: you're dealing with You're dealing with those ups and downs. 332 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: But I am totally on board with you. You have to 333 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: love what you see. There is a there's a smoothness 334 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: to his game. There is there is this presence that 335 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: he has out there that just says, I belong in 336 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: the NFL and I and I fit here, And and 337 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: we were talking about it all through training camp in 338 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: the preseason, how he just looks like he fits this 339 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: offense and the things that Matt Lafleur wants to do 340 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: with a receiver with with that kind of skill set. 341 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: So and the other thing. Unfortunately you cover the press conferences. 342 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: I go into the postgame, you know, locker room. I 343 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: was in the Jaden Reid scrum when they won and 344 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: when they lost. And he's the same dude. Yeah, he 345 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: was there for it. He had his foot up against 346 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: the locker saying, hey, it is what it is. You 347 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: have to learn from it. That that goes a long way. 348 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: They got a lot of those guys in that locker 349 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: room too. 350 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: One of the things I'll point out too, because we've 351 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: mentioned the flea flicker, this is this this the second 352 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: game in a row we've seen some real creativity from 353 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur and his offensive coaching staff because they came 354 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: out in the second half against Chicago looking for a 355 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: spark offensively and they called the throwback screen. You know, 356 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: real deceptive play and everything. They took the field at 357 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz Stadium, you know, all the noise in that 358 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: dome and everything, and the first play of the game 359 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: they run, they run the flea flicker. Not afraid to 360 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: try to try some of this stuff to provide to 361 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: provide a spark and you know, really other than you know, yes, 362 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: there were there were certainly breakdowns in the running game. 363 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: There was the one miscommunication and pass protection that led 364 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: to a sack. One of the plays on the final drive, 365 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Love was under pressure and unfortunately couldn't get a 366 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: deep ball to read where Reed had actually run a 367 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: really good route and had beaten his man, but Love 368 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: just wasn't able to step into the throw. So again 369 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: another regret there. But the Packers, you know, Rashid Walker 370 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: stepped in at left tackle for David you had Royce 371 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: Newman ended up stepping in for Elton Jenkins. Sounds like 372 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: Jenkins is going to be out a couple of weeks 373 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: at a minimum with a knee injury, and yosh Nimen 374 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: coming in and playing some snaps of tackle when Rashid 375 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: Walker is playing as the sixth thougher lineman kind of 376 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: that extra tight end thing, whatever you want to call it. 377 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: Packers had a lot of moving parts on the offensive 378 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: line in this game, and unfortunately things just didn't come 379 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: together in the fourth quarter. But twenty four points through 380 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: the first three quarters on the road, that's not a 381 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: bad performance. You just wish they could have added you know, 382 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: all they needed was one drive and you don't even 383 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: know if they necessarily needed points. They needed one drive 384 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: something to get to get going, to move the chains, 385 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: to flip the field, to kill some clock, you know, 386 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: take your pick. And unfortunately, just the fourth quarter didn't 387 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: live up to how they had performed in the first thing. 388 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: No, and I think it ultimately, Yeah, it's hard to 389 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: get into a rhythm when you're you know, when you 390 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: have one team that controls the ball for thirty six minutes, 391 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: it runs seventy eight, seventy six plays whatever it was, 392 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 2: and the other one's at forty seven. Yeah, and unlike 393 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: out of the you know, the break in Chicago where 394 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: you had Aaron Jones, you had a veteran to turn 395 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: to Green Bay didn't really have that in this game. 396 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: I thought that showed down the stretch. But I'll tell 397 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 2: you what, man, those are the type of crucibles though, 398 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: that guys learned from, especially when you have to like 399 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: kind of look at each other and be like, Okay, 400 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: how are we going to figure this thing out? And 401 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 2: it's going to be an eighteen week ride and you 402 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: hope that obviously it gets you to its peak by 403 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: the end of it. Yeah. 404 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: Well, the New Orleans Saints are up next for the 405 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: home opener. Four days after that, the Detroit Lions will 406 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: be coming in. So it's worth talking about where things 407 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: stand in the NFC North. 408 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: The same as last week, Packers. 409 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: And Lions at one and one. The Vikings and Bears 410 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: are at zero and two. So nobody in the NFC 411 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: North emerged from the first two weeks of the season unscathed. 412 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: The Lions are certainly, you know, regretting what went down 413 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: for them on Sunday because they had gotten the big 414 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: win on the road over the Chiefs. They've got their 415 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: home opener, all their fans behind them. The Seattle Seahawks, 416 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: who had lost a tough home game in week one, 417 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: they come in and, you know, kind of a shootout, 418 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: much like the Lions and the Seahawks have had those 419 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: kinds of kinds of games in the past. It was 420 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: interesting catching the highlights later how that game unfolded. Jared 421 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: Goff threw a pick six in the fourth quarter. It 422 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: looked like the Lions were dead and gone. They come back. 423 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: They score ten points down the stretch in the fourth 424 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: quarter to force overtime, but then their defense can't get 425 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: off the field in overtime, they give up the opening 426 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: touchdown drive and the Lions aren't able to get the 427 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: ball back on offense in the OT so Seattle leaves 428 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: Detroit one and one. Detroit comes out of that at 429 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: one and one. And we'll see here after week three 430 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: with when the Lions and the Packers will both be 431 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: on a short week. Who's going to be two and one? Who? 432 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: Who is somebody going to be one and two? Long 433 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: way to go here, but it's already looking like that 434 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: that Week four game at Lambeufield is going to be 435 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: awfully big. No matter what happens in Week three. 436 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: It will be. And again we're really earlier in the week, 437 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: but it sounds like David Montgomery here possibly a thigh injury, 438 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: you know, potentially taking him down. That was another thing 439 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: you and I talked about in preseason that you know, 440 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: he's a talented guy, but he's had a lot of 441 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: injuries and that was one of the issues that kind 442 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: of prevented him from being in every down player consistently 443 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: for the Bears. That's gonna be big because it looks 444 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: like Gibbs as talented as this young man is. The 445 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: pass pro is probably the area game where he's still 446 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: trying to catch up. There is no Jamal Williams to 447 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: go back to, very interested to see how they handle that. 448 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: This doesn't have anything to do with the North, but 449 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: I mean, a real nice, strong gut check by Seattle, 450 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: a disappointing loss, they rally back for a win on 451 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 2: the road. I thought Gino Smith showed a lot of poise, 452 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 2: and certainly when you have someone like Tyler Lockett, who 453 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: was kind of quiet in Week one, being able to 454 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: bounce back the way he did. A lot of talented 455 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: teams in the NFC, I mean, I think there's a 456 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: few that have sort of really separated themselves early on, 457 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: but especially in this division, in the NFC North, it 458 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: is going to be anyone's race, and even a team 459 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: like Chicago that is really struggling right now, there's still 460 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: only one game behind here. 461 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, and you know that the Vikings 462 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: are as happy as anyone that both the Packers and 463 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: the Lions lost in Week two, because the Vikings had 464 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: that tough task going to play Thursday night football at Philadelphia. 465 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: They gave the Eagles a run for their money, ended 466 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: up losing that ended up losing that game by one score. 467 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: The Vikings are oh and two, but now they get 468 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of extra rest heading into week three, 469 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: and they're looking at it as hey, yeah, we're owing two, 470 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: but we're only one game out of the of the 471 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: NFC North lead, and it sure feels like it's going 472 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: to take a while to see if anybody in this 473 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: division is actually going to be able to take control 474 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: of things. 475 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: And it's funny, it seems like every year we do 476 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: this show and we start talking about games in week 477 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: two and week three and week four in the narrow 478 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: margin of victory. Yep, you have the Minnesota Vikings at 479 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: oh and two now going to be going up against 480 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: an LA Chargers team that is oh and two and 481 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: has lost those two games by combined three points. Right now, 482 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: Austin Eichler, we'll talk about this later in the week. 483 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: Whether or not he's back, whether or not he's not, 484 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: that changes the entire complex this game. As I was 485 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: talking about yesterday, you know Dalton Reisner now signing with 486 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: the Vikings after their banged up offensive line, trying to 487 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: get some more depth moves and counter moves yeah, and 488 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: seeing exactly how those things are going to equate to 489 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: a win. It will be interesting to watch. 490 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And everybody's talking about that seat getting hot under 491 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley with the Chargers after the playoff Debaco last year, 492 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: and now they're starting zero to two and twenty twenty three, 493 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: they've got the Vikings. On Sunday, the Packers are gonna 494 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: have their hands full with a Saints team that is 495 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: coming into Lambellfield at two to zero off of a 496 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: road Monday night victory over the Panthers. We will talk 497 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: about that and that entire Saints team some more on 498 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: our next show, but for now, we'll call it a 499 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to 500 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: follow all of our coverage of the team on Packers 501 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: dot com. For Wes, I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning 502 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: in everybody. We will see you next time.