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Speaker 1: look right in two games. Buck, I think he has

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Speaker 1: uh I think he has like minus two yards on

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Speaker 1: five carries or something like that. I mean, uh, yeah,

431
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Speaker 1: five rushes for negative two yards. Uh, he's not the

432
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 1: same guy. And when you look at this Carolina Panthers

433
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: organization right now with a relatively new owner, and it

434
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 1: just feels like this thing is headed towards a complete reboot.

435
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Speaker 1: And when a reboot takes place, you're talking a new

436
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Speaker 1: general manager, new head coach, new quarterback. Uh. We'll see

437
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Speaker 1: how much time Cam Newton could miss, but I'd be

438
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 1: surprised is based off what we saw and reports. Noality

439
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: he's got a foot injury that if we saw him

440
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 1: this week, and maybe it's an extended period of time there.

441
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 1: But it just feels like it might be time they

442
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 1: made a Super Bowl run. I didn't quite get it done,

443
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: but they got to a super Bowl and it feels like, Okay,

444
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 1: maybe it's time to just kind of reboot this whole

445
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: thing in Carolina. Yeah, I want to see. So if

446
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: if I'm the Carolina Panthers, what I have to do

447
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 1: is I gotta I gotta really um be on it.

448
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: So if I'm Marty Hernie, I gotta have a conversation

449
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,919
Speaker 1: with my college scouting director. And the conversation that I

450
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: have to have is, look, if we feel it finished

451
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the pack. Say we finished, where

452
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Speaker 1: we get the seventeenth or eighteenth pick. Is there a

453
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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback that will be available for us, one that

454
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Speaker 1: we like, one that we believe that we can build around. UM,

455
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Speaker 1: I want to know that. Then I'm going to the

456
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Speaker 1: pro director. I'm asking which quarterbacks come up on the market,

457
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Speaker 1: UH this offseason, to see who are the free agents

458
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Speaker 1: that we potentially can have to um, potentially replace Kim

459
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: Newton if we decided it doesn't work anymore. And so

460
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Speaker 1: after I have those two conversations, I didn't gotta go

461
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Speaker 1: downstairs and to the trainer. I'm gonna talk to Ryan Vermillion,

462
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: who's the trainer with the Carolina Panthers, And I'm asking, like,

463
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,479
Speaker 1: what's the long term pregnosis with with Cam We've had

464
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries with him of late. I kind

465
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Speaker 1: of want to see do we ever believe that he

466
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Speaker 1: will get back to being the guy that we saw

467
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Speaker 1: when the m v P just from a physical standpoint.

468
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Speaker 1: And if I get a check or thumbs up, then

469
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm going down to North and I'm like, North, how

470
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: can we get Kim to play at his best? I

471
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: know everyone is thinking a the quarterback has to play

472
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Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years at the position. That's what the epitome

473
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Speaker 1: of a franchise quarterback is. But reality it's always been

474
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Speaker 1: like a fifteen year thing. So can we get back

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Speaker 1: to letting Kim do what he does really well? Because

476
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Speaker 1: I never believe that he's gonna be a high efficient

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Speaker 1: like a high completion percentage pass. He's not gonna be

478
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Speaker 1: efficient in the passing game without using his legs. What

479
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Speaker 1: is that career span? If we decide, you know what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do, We're gonna let Kim be him and

481
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Speaker 1: we're gonna live with the results there after. I think

482
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Speaker 1: that's the only way that Kim can survive at a quarterback,

483
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: and I think that's the only way that he can

484
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Speaker 1: survive in Carolina. So there are a lot of different

485
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: conversations to have to take place in the office as

486
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Speaker 1: they begin to build a plan for for moving forward

487
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: with or without Cam Newton and beyond. They drafted Cam,

488
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Speaker 1: you know, when he was twenty two and Cam's thirty now.

489
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Speaker 1: I believes it's nine years that he's had and the

490
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Speaker 1: way he plays Buck if if if we went back

491
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Speaker 1: and watched the way he played at Auburn, and even

492
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Speaker 1: as big and as physical as he is, I feel

493
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Speaker 1: pretty certain about this, having our background. If we had

494
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Speaker 1: this conversation when he was drafted, if he's going to

495
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Speaker 1: play this way in the NFL, probably you know, eight

496
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 1: to ten years, right, eight to ten years, and you

497
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: feel good about what you're able to get out of him.

498
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Speaker 1: But man, it's hard to play that style. I don't

499
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Speaker 1: care how big you are, going beyond that period of time,

500
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Speaker 1: it's just it's too much on the body. And he

501
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 1: needed to continue to grow and evolve in other areas

502
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: of his game. And we've talked about it before. I'm

503
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Speaker 1: not so sure that he's done that to the level

504
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: we've seen from some of the other athletic quarterbacks and

505
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Speaker 1: name we talk about Russell Wilson and even what we're

506
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Speaker 1: seeing from Dak Prescott early on in his career. I've

507
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: seen those guys make those strides in all these other

508
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Speaker 1: areas and rely a little bit less um on on

509
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Speaker 1: their ability to make plays with their legs. Cam, I

510
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: don't know that they ever really did that. No, I like, look,

511
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: I can tell you I don't think they really did it.

512
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he ever really fully immersed himself into

513
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Speaker 1: being um a high end quarterback, meaning that hey, I'm

514
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: not only gonna revolutionize the game as a dual threat quarterback,

515
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: but I want to have staying power and the only

516
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Speaker 1: way for me to have staying power is to be

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Speaker 1: efficient from the pocket. And I don't know if he

518
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Speaker 1: mastered or acquire those skills prior to his injury. So

519
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: now we're looking at a broken down Cam Newton, and

520
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, they can't really use his wheels, his shoulders

521
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: still kind of deamed up. So the two trades that

522
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: made him really really special as in prospect his running

523
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: ability with his legs and then his ability to throw

524
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Speaker 1: the ball nearly out the stadium, he doesn't have the capacity.

525
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be able to do that. So

526
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: now what do we really have because he's not a

527
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: guy that can play Connect the Dots football. So I

528
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Speaker 1: just believe the offensive coordinator, Cam Newton, they gotta get

529
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: together and kind of figure out what is the best

530
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Speaker 1: plan for us to proceed. And then the coordinator, head coach,

531
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: and general manager they have to get together and say,

532
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: can we continue to run this this blueprint or this

533
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: game plan for the next three or four years, because

534
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: if not, we may have to move over, move on

535
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: from number one, no matter how good he has been

536
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: for us during his prime. I get to a quick

537
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: reaction to this, uh this Monday night game, but I

538
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: want to again go back. I'm sorry for kind of

539
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: jumping around to day buck Angles hit all this stuff.

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00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you your thoughts just from

541
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: the Steelers perspective on this Minca Fitzpatrick trade bringing in Minka.

542
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Speaker 1: Really the same day that they announced Ben Roethlisberger is

543
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: gone for the season, where some people might be thinking, Okay,

544
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: this is a complete flip, a complete rebuild, Ben comes

545
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Speaker 1: out and says that he plans on coming back and

546
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: playing under that new contract that they gave him. Um,

547
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: I believe they have some confidence there in Mason Rudolph

548
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: this year. Else I don't see why you would trade

549
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: a first round pick to go out and get Menka Fitzpatrick.

550
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: So just your thoughts on them bringing in Minca. So

551
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 1: here's what's interesting about the Mica Fitzpatrick thing. And one

552
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: thing that I can't really understand in Miami. I can't

553
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: understand it from both sides. I can't understand Mica Fitzpatrick.

554
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: The biggest selling point that he had doing the run

555
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 1: up to the draft was my versatility. I can play

556
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: any position. I can play corner, I can play nickel,

557
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: I can play safety, free or strong. Use me anywhere.

558
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm a Swiss army knife. Cool. Miami's office select him.

559
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: Ricky Season bounces around a little bit. Blind Floors comes in, Hey, man,

560
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: you can do so much. We can use you like

561
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: a Swiss army knife. Mika Fitzpatrick No, no, no, no, no,

562
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: no no no. I just want to play corner. I

563
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: just what are we doing? Like Minca, what are we doing?

564
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: And so it just makes it hard for me to

565
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: kind of figure out where Minka's head is at because

566
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: he was so resistant to being a guy that could

567
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: cross train and play a variety of different positions way

568
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: right right, Like the versatility is like your ultimate calling card,

569
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: and so the fact that he bucked at that system

570
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: just kind of bothered me. For Pittsburgh, what you're getting, man,

571
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: you're getting a great player. You get a great I

572
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: won't say a great player, You're get a great prospect.

573
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: You get a guy who checks off a lot of

574
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: boxes when he was coming out of Alabama, a guy

575
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: who has tremendous versatility. A guy that can play outside,

576
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: can slide inside and play the nickel, and maybe you

577
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: can play the safety. And so from a creative standpoint,

578
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: you have a guy that may allow you to always

579
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: have the same personnel on the field, but kind of

580
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: shift your emphasis on a down by down basis what

581
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: I really need to see. Nana Minka is away from

582
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: the Miami system, I kind of need to go back

583
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: and evaluate how good is he. Did we over hype

584
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: him as a versatile athlete, but Nana, he's playing in

585
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: the league. There's some uh, some things that he's have

586
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: been exploited, things that teams have taken advantage of. That

587
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: will be the thing for me to begin to study Manka,

588
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 1: study his game and to see where exactly is he

589
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: when it comes to ranking him amongst the top corners

590
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: in the game. Yeah, I get the frustration from Brian

591
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: Flores on this, uh with Meka Fitzpatricks not wanting to

592
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: play all these other spots. I was talking to a

593
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: coach the other day book about why the New England

594
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: Patriots are so good on defense because you look at

595
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: they've got some good players there, but it's they don't

596
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: have the most talented eleven guys that they line up there.

597
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: And he really brought up two things. He said, it's

598
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: versatility and it's analytics. But it's not analytics the way

599
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: you're thinking. It's the analytics of offenses and the versatility

600
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: of the Patriots defense. And let me let me explain

601
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: this real quick. So, most teams, when they trot out

602
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: different personnel groupings, right, you're gonna try out different bodies,

603
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: you know, nickel dime, whatever you want to do. They're

604
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: gonna play a certain fronts with those defenses. Offensive coordinators,

605
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: now armed with all the statistics, can tell when we

606
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: get this personnel on field, they're gonna be in one

607
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: or two if or you know, one or two of

608
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: these fronts, and they're gonna play these coverages and down

609
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: in distance. We know they're gonna bring out this personnel

610
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: and we know what they're gonna run. Here's what makes

611
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: New England so dangn good. They have so many versatile

612
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: chess pieces. They keep that group out there and they

613
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: line them up in different fronts and different spots and

614
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: really in different positions. So as an offensive coordinator who

615
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: week by week you're rolling through the numbers, Okay, we

616
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: get this personnel, we've got our list of plays we

617
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: like against these fronts and these coverages. Let's roll against

618
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: New England. You don't know what you're going to get

619
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: because of the versatility they have in their group. And

620
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: that's why that thing is so darn good. And look,

621
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: that's that's really why it is so good. Like you

622
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: talk about the versatility that you must have to play

623
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: in that defense, and how they look for guys to

624
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: have multiple things in their background, and not only that,

625
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: how is mandatory that you cross train at another position.

626
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: Everyone has a secondary position. If you're a defensive end,

627
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: you play outside linebacker, your corner. You also get reps

628
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: at safety. You are safety, you come down and playing

629
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: the nickel or demanded or dime spot. That versatility gives

630
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: you a lot of flexibility for how you want a

631
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: cobble or attack an opponent. Um, I absolutely love that.

632
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: And so the complexity of New England, I would say,

633
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: not even your system, but just their fronts makes it

634
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: very very difficult. But then in the bad can because

635
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: everyone is kind of fascinated about New England and the

636
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: success that they have in the back, and then there

637
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: was some worry about why I was making Fitzpatrick playing

638
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: so much man demand. Well, Brian Floyd's comes from the

639
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: New England system. When you look at the Patriots on tape,

640
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: they really play man free, meaning man to man on

641
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: the outside, one post safety and they may have a

642
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: low whole helper to cover everything. They don't switch. They

643
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: don't ban Joe. You line up in bunch, stacked or whatever.

644
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick tells, O, God, you gotta figure it out.

645
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: You're not switching. You're standing at home. And that is

646
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: what they do from day one of O t A

647
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: s in minicamp to the last day of the regular season.

648
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: So dj Um and I had this talk with with

649
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: my guy Seth Murkowski is a chess master, and he said,

650
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: one thing that people have to do, and when you

651
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: think about becoming great at anything, find one thing that

652
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: you can master and then build out from that. Well,

653
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots have master being able to play man demand.

654
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: And so you talked about diversatility. Well, it's easy to

655
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: be versa when you're only asking everybody to do a

656
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: certain thing in a different role. Everyone's playing man to man.

657
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: So this week and maybe corner next week, I may

658
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: be playing safety, but I'm in man demand, so my

659
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: responsibilities don't change. And what Brian Floors was trying to

660
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: do in Miami, trying to get guys to bind it

661
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: at make of Fitzpatrick bristled at that, and that is

662
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: why he's a Pittsburgh stealer. There you go. Well there's

663
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: again so many fascinating storylines buck. Um, it's just it's

664
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: fun time to be working in the NFL and keeping

665
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: an eye and all this stuff. So unbelieve you want

666
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: to get to this Monday night game. Yes, Oh it's crazy.

667
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean Monday night game. It was a snoozer,

668
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: ugly game. The Jets are terrible right now with the

669
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: personnel that they have. Um, you know, you got your

670
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: third quarterback out there. It is what it is. Um,

671
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: nothing going on for them in a weird sense. You know.

672
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: I came away from this game almost disappointed a little

673
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: bit in the Browns and the Browns are gonna win. Um,

674
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: but you have the big long play to Odell O'Dell

675
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, stepped up in prime time. You knew that

676
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. Myles Garrett was great, some good individual performances,

677
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: and I think Baker was great. Uh. I saw our

678
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: buddy danil Rolovski was talking about the fact that just

679
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: there's no tempo or pace to what they're doing. Um, so,

680
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a little disjointed right now offensively

681
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns, and uh, like, what had to do?

682
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 1: They gotta win. But man, it wasn't it wasn't an

683
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: I pleaser, No, it was it wasn't I please. And

684
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of different things that

685
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: are at play when I look at the Browns. Um,

686
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: I think this is a case of D T M.

687
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: I think the Browns are doing too much. I think

688
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: they're doing too much because they're trying to kind of

689
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 1: appease all of the weapons that they have. And I

690
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: think they're also and I think this is the the

691
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: challenge that new head coaches have. I want to show

692
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: you why I've been named to head coach. So I

693
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: got named to head coach because I was offensive coordinator

694
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: last seven eight nine games of the year. We made Baker,

695
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: We helped Baker play at a high level because we

696
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: were doing all these things. When now I've had a

697
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: full offseason to expand and even add more. Look at

698
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: all the stuff that we can do while look how

699
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: great that is. And I think what they have done

700
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: is they've lost a little bit of the identity that

701
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: they created at the end of the year. Even though

702
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was viewed as the driving force of the offense.

703
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: They ran the ball really really well with Nick Chubb,

704
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: and the running game took something the pressure off Baker

705
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: to have to make so many plays in the passing game.

706
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: It actually created opportunities for him to make plays off play, action,

707
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: off deception and misdirection, take shots, do things from thirteen

708
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: personnel pactors, one back, three tight ends, run heavy looks

709
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: for passing downs and passing plays. Now they're spreading it

710
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: out and they're doing all kinds of stuff. And even

711
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, DJ, I'm looking at

712
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: the game and I'm like, the game is at the

713
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: end of the game, it's four minutes left. Why why

714
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: is Baker Mayfield throwing better? Yeah? Why is Odell Beckham

715
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: and these guys? Why why are they in Like we

716
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: have the game under control, let's get the week three.

717
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: And so there's just a lot of transition and a

718
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: lot of newness going on, and I think that's why

719
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: they've been so rag and I'm gonna be honest, I

720
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: don't think Baker Mayfield has played well. Baker Mayfield has

721
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: been very, very careless with the football, almost to the

722
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: point of being reckless. And I get the gun slinger mentality,

723
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: I get the competitive nature that he plays win and

724
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: he never wants to give up on a play. However,

725
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: turnover margin is the biggest deciding factor in football. Baker

726
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: Mayfield has to take care of the football. Um, there's

727
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: some stat like since I came which week, but he

728
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: leads the NFL. The NFL he's leading since it's Freddie

729
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: took over. I believe you can't. You can't turn the

730
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: ball over like that is a cardinal sin. Like, yeah,

731
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: there's a there's a thing about being aggressive and not

732
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: necessarily being conservative, but you gotta take care of the ball.

733
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: And I worry about Baker Mayfield being so aggressive that

734
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: he becomes careless and it ends up backfind and hurting

735
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: to Cleveland Browns. And we'll see how this, uh, this

736
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: Brown's team continues to grow in develop I would you

737
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: know we're seeing all these trades and all this action.

738
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if Cleveland no one they're

739
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: kind of got their chips a little bit into the

740
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: table this year to try and get uh into the postseason.

741
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: Take that next step. I would not be surprised if

742
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: we saw them make a move on the offensive line

743
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: and and uh see what's out there and try and

744
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: bring somebody in, and we'll see what happens with them,

745
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: uh on the Jets thing real quick, and then we're

746
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: gonna get to our chat with with Bob Stoops. It

747
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: looks like Trevor Simon is out for the year. Sam

748
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: Donald's back in the building, so there's a chance maybe

749
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: he comes back sooner uh than later. But man, Buck,

750
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to say when you don't have

751
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: your quarterback the second week of the season. But this

752
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: is uh, um, it's a it's a roster that Joe Douglas,

753
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: our buddy, is gonna have his hands his hands full

754
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: there to try and rebuild this roster. Not very many

755
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: impact players at the key positions. No, it's it. It

756
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: looks tough. I don't envy Joe d and what he

757
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: has to do with the personnel that he has. UM.

758
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: I do think there's some positives that can come out

759
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: of the performance last night. Uh Luke Falk did a

760
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: solid job off the bench. Off the practice squad came

761
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: around the offense, they moved the ball up to feel.

762
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: I think when Luke Falk came in, it actually made

763
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze kind of refocus and it made him run

764
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: the offense through Levyan Bill. I think if they run

765
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: the offense through Levan Bill, and if the defense plays

766
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: like they played for most of the game, maybe the

767
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: first three quarters, I think they can stay in games.

768
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can win games, but they

769
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: can make it very, very tough on opponents. Levyan Bill

770
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: is exactly who we thought he was. Look he had

771
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: twenty plus carries, ten receptions, did a little bit everything.

772
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: He had a bad fumble, but I felt like it

773
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: was a perfect hit. They have to ride Levyan Bill

774
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: to allow them to set things up. They got some

775
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: weapons on the outside, Anderson was nice. Jamison Crowder can

776
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: make plays. You gotta kind of set it up for

777
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: Luke Falk. But they are a team that has to

778
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: play with their defense first and foremost in their mind,

779
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: meaning i gotta call the game offensively to protect my defense,

780
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: and then I'm just waiting on my defense to make

781
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: up play. So my defense gets a turn over, we

782
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: got a short field, we score points. They have to

783
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: have that yang and yang, they have to work together

784
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: to be able to get it done. Um. I think

785
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: there's some positives, and I think it would be better

786
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: obviously when Sam Donald comes back, if that's a couple

787
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: of weeks or not. But there's some things that they

788
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: can build on that because as bad as the game

789
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: looked to the eye, I don't think the Jets played horribly.

790
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: I just think they're very limited with the personnel that

791
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: they have at the disposal and if they get Sam

792
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: Donald back before too long, and they're gonna get Chris

793
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: Hernon back after his suspension, UM, I think you can

794
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: see this offense show some signs of life, but it's

795
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: not pretty what we've seen thus far. All right, Buck

796
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: excited for this next conversation. And you get a chance

797
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: to talk with one of the premier coaches in the

798
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: history of college football and somebody that's got an exciting,

799
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: uh new opportunity in front of him. You take that

800
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: opportunity to run with it, and that's what we did. Here.

801
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: Here's our conversation with former Oklahoma head coach and current

802
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: head coach and general manager of the XFL's Dallas Renegades.

803
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: Bob Stoops, Hey, coach, I want to get into your

804
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: new job here, to get back into coaching world here

805
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: in the XFL. But before we get there, I gotta

806
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: ask you, you know, as scouts, if you could give

807
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: us a scouting report on one Drake Stoops because I'm

808
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: watching that game against U C. L A and I'm like,

809
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: I I recognize that name. Uh tell me about how

810
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: proud that must be for you to see him out

811
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: there making plays. Yeah, I'm proud of him. He's he's

812
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: worked hard, He's he's a really good player. He's got

813
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: great hands, great route runner. Uh so in in our

814
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: in our system at oh you you know, well those

815
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: kind of guys have a you know, can can have

816
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: a lot of success. So he's working his way into

817
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, on the field, and I'm happy for him

818
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: and glad the team is doing so well also, you know, coach,

819
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: like and just speaking of that team, because you did

820
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: such a great job of leaving a foundation, I have

821
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: to ask you what are the core things that are

822
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: essential to building a championship program. You know, there's so

823
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: much that goes into it, and I kind of detail,

824
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: a lot of it in the book. Just you know this,

825
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: I started with building our team's self esteem, you know,

826
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: by every player just they're you know, building their their

827
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: identity and uh showing them all the championship teams through

828
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: the year this is how Oklahoma plays. Uh. And then

829
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: you've got to work for it, you know, just the

830
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: the the the attitude, the can fight uh for you know,

831
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: for everything that you get coach there. There's so much

832
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: we love to talk about with team building, and we

833
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: talk about developing your roster. I'm fascinated just to know,

834
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: as the leader of an entire organization though, developing your

835
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: coaches and how important it is not just to be

836
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: able to coach your players, but to be able to

837
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: coach your coaching staff to make sure that you've got

838
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: the guys do what they're supposed to be doing. Yeah,

839
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot that goes into that, you know, just

840
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: the the you know, the way you're you're gonna work

841
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: as a staff. Uh, well, you know how you're gonna

842
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: coach you know the details of offense, defense, even your

843
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: special teams, um, you know, and in the manner and

844
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do it. You know, so there's a

845
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot that goes into that, and I'm excited

846
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: this this new opportunity being the general manager as well

847
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: as the head coach here with the XFL the Dallas Renegades.

848
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a new, new, new challenge. But I

849
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be exciting. You know, we're really excited

850
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: to see you take onto the challenge. But before I

851
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: can go further, I have to talk about the book,

852
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: Uh New Excuses. You wrote this with Gene Wi joh

853
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: how Ski um kind of a guy that how you

854
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: have had success throughout the years. Talk a little bit

855
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: about the book and what uh kind of motivated you

856
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: to write and share some of your thoughts and being

857
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: a head coach. Yeah. First, Gene was great to work with.

858
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: He's a he's a pros pro, you know, such a

859
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: great writer and great guy to be around. Um. But

860
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, I've been asked through the year so many times,

861
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 1: what how do I become a head coach? What? What

862
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: was your path? How did you do it? Uh? Those

863
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: kind of things, So I thought it was really important.

864
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: You know, people want to try and emulate your path.

865
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: So I I did the best I could have. Just Hey,

866
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: this is how I did it, and uh this is

867
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, the direction I took and how I did it.

868
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: And uh, you know as well as I'm asked a

869
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: lot about how did you turn the program around in

870
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: two years? You know, what was your thought process there?

871
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: And I go through all of that in detail in

872
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: the book, and uh, you know it's it's uh, there's

873
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: a lot in there that that described how my my

874
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: path was and and then also how we turned Oklahoma

875
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: around so fast. Coach in this new role here with

876
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: the Dallas rending, as you mentioned, also being a general

877
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: manager of this team. Um, when you're looking at guys

878
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: to bring into your organization, now, is there a profile,

879
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: you know, both on the field in terms of some

880
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: characteristics you're trying to find and bring in as well

881
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: as just some uh uh some intangibles that you're looking

882
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: when you're really starting an expansion franchise here just looking

883
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: for great, great players. You know, if you think about it,

884
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: you look at the last five ten guys cut from

885
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: every NFL football team, those are really good football players,

886
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: so I and exciting players to watch. So those are

887
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: the kind of guys that I think will make up

888
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: most of our teams guys that are just on the

889
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: edge of the NFL, but guys that are really fun,

890
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: exciting players and in uh, you know to watch and

891
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: the coach. So I think it's gonna be uh, really

892
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: exciting and fun to watch, you know, coach on the field. Um,

893
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: going from coaching college to coaching pros, do you anticipate

894
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: there being uh, maybe a transitional period for you because

895
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: the game is a little different with the hashes and

896
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: the stuff. Have you prepared yourself to get ready for

897
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: a game that is a little different than the game

898
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: you spent most of your college your career coaching. Yeah,

899
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: some of the spacing is a little bit different, really,

900
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: but most of it, Hey, it's it's still football, you know.

901
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, so I don't I don't anticipate

902
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: it being all that different or strange. But uh, but

903
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: you know, we we've got a couple of months as

904
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: a lead up to it. Will be practicing in um,

905
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, December and January, and then our season will

906
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: start in February after the Super Bowl, So that I

907
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: I gotta think a couple of months will be enough

908
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: time to get used to hash marks and numbers. But

909
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: but anyway, it'll it'll be it'll be different, But I'm

910
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: looking forward to working with guys that are older players,

911
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: guys that have played a lot of good football in

912
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: the past, you know, guys that are more mature and

913
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: really understand the game. Um, you know, and not having

914
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: to deal with academics and miss classes and things like that.

915
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be exciting and fun to to,

916
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, to work coach. You have so much x

917
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: purtise on the defensive side of the ball. I just

918
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: be curious to get your take on, uh and bringing

919
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: in and building up a defense now versus maybe you know,

920
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: ten fifteen years ago. How how has it evolved in

921
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: change in terms of the type of personnel you need

922
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: on your defense to be successful. Yeah, you you need

923
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: you need speed everywhere. And today's game, Uh, everybody throws

924
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: the ball so efficiently, and now you have all the

925
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: run pass options and if you don't like the run,

926
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: they throw the screen outside. And so it's it's challenging.

927
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: You need speed and guys that can cover and close ground.

928
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: But it's uh, it's challenging the way these offenses are

929
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: so creative anymore. So it's it'll be a challenge you know,

930
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: coach wanted. The driving forces behind these changing offenses have

931
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: been the quarterbacks and the mobile quarterbacks and the athletic

932
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: guys that can make plays with their legs and their arm. Uh,

933
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: when you're facing a guy that is a dual three

934
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: at quarterback, what are some of the things that you're

935
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: trying to take away when you face those kind of guys. Yeah,

936
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: well hit, Yeah, you got to try and take away everything.

937
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: But um, you know you got to load the box. Uh,

938
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, to make sure you take care of the

939
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: run first. To me, that's where everything begins. And uh.

940
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: But but it's challenging these guys that can do both

941
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: because there's only only so many defenses you can deploy.

942
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: But you you've got to be able to answer for

943
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback run game first and challenge the past, you

944
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: know best, best that you can coach, you've had a

945
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: chance to, you know, to coach some great players to

946
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: play against a great players. One of the questions we've

947
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun asking coaches all over the

948
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: country is going back to recruiting and the best high

949
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: school football player you've ever seen could be somebody that

950
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: that played for you as somebody you just saw in

951
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: the high school field. But all your years in this game,

952
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: who's the guy that stands out above everybody else at

953
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: the high school level that you saw a play? Oh jeez,

954
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: that's easy for me. Adrian Peterson. Uh, he was. He

955
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: was a man among boys, and every time he touched

956
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: the ball virtually he went to distance. So he was

957
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how many yards he rushed were in

958
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: high school, but it was a lot. Coach, is there

959
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: a story? Is there a story about him that you remember,

960
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: like just maybe a game you saw live or just

961
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: study looking at on my tape that you were just like,

962
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. Too many of those. But I walked

963
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: in the weight room this first year there and he

964
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: was jumping on you know, the tallest box, you know

965
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: the piometric boxing how you jump up on the boxes.

966
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: And he was holding I think seventy pound dumbbells in

967
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: each hand, jumping up on the top on the highest box,

968
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, like ten times. I looked at the strength coach,

969
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: I said, are you sure this is okay? Like is

970
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: he gonna get hurt? And he said, don't worry about him,

971
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: He's fine. That's funny, um, coach, Coach, I can't let

972
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: you go without asking you because during your time and

973
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: surely after you um left Oklahoma, you guys have had

974
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: a lot of Hysman Trophy quarterbacks. When you think about

975
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, what are the core traits that the

976
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks have that you've been around. Leadership? You know,

977
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: players gotta gotta be willing to follow him. Toughness, Uh,

978
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: players will follow toughness, um, you know. And then for us,

979
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: it's always started with you know, being a great passer.

980
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: For us, we were gonna drop a guy if we're

981
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: recruiting if he's not an elite passer, We're we're gonna

982
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be in it very long. So we

983
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: always want a guy with the great army. But you

984
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: gotta have the toughness and leadership with the coach. Last thing,

985
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: and I'll let you on. Thank you so much for

986
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: your time. But I'm just curious if you've ever gotten

987
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: that little buggy that zips around the stadium there at

988
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: o U. It's a it's a history of college football.

989
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: It's there's a lot of passion with that fan base.

990
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: That thing goes zipping around. I'm just curious if you

991
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: ever got a ride that thing and that the wagon. Yes, yeah, no,

992
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: you know. Only UH when I after I retired for

993
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: the homecoming, they had a little salute or a celebration

994
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: for me and one of the games, and I rode

995
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: down Main Street. Are are are one Main Street in

996
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: campus with my wife and that buggy. But that's the

997
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: only time I've dared to get in it. Coach, thank

998
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: you so much for your time. Man. We're looking forward

999
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: to watching the XFL and watching your squad, how you

1000
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: build this team. It's gonna be a lot of fun

1001
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: and we wish you the best of luck. Thanks for

1002
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: your time. Well Buck. Great to catch up with with

1003
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: Coach stoops there and uh, man, I could listen to

1004
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: these high school stories all day long when it comes

1005
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: to recruiting and UH Adrian Peterson, Uh, I would imagine

1006
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: you only see one of those during your lifetime. Look, man,

1007
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: it it's funny that we've heard his name a few

1008
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: times when we talked to UH ask coaches about the

1009
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: best player day plan. He is a man ship. He

1010
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: is unique and what he was able to do. And

1011
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: if you can go back and just think about Adrian

1012
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: Peterson at OU and what he did his freshman year

1013
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: and how he dominated and the way that he was

1014
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: able to kind of put that offense on his back.

1015
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: It is uncommon to see a freshman do that. Um.

1016
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: It's probably one of the reasons why there are a

1017
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: lot of people in that uh Southwest area that that

1018
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: claim Adrian Peters and is the best high school player

1019
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: they've ever seen, no doubt. Great to catch up with

1020
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: Coach Stoops, and I am looking forward, uh to see

1021
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: how the XFL comes together. It sounds like they've got

1022
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: plenty of funding and UH they got a chance to

1023
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: really get that leak up and running, which would be

1024
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: great for the development of some of the young players

1025
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: trying to make their way back to UH the NFL.

1026
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: About a couple of new starting quarterbacks this week. We

1027
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: touched on a little bit earlier and as well as

1028
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: on a previous episode, But just give me, let's go.

1029
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: Expectations for these two guys, Mason Rudolph and Teddy Bridgewater.

1030
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: What do you got so my expectation for Mason Rudolph Like,

1031
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: it's funny going all the way back, UM, I think

1032
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: I might have been a little higher on Mason Rudolph

1033
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: than you were doing the evaluation. And one of the

1034
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: things that I liked about Mason, I felt like Mason

1035
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: Rudolph could be a pass first point guard. If we're

1036
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: in the basketball court and you surrounded him with weapons,

1037
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: I felt like he could get it done. And part

1038
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: of that was because that's what he did at Oklahoma State.

1039
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: They had a very very nice receiving corps. I think

1040
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Marcell Abman uh Washington on the perimeter. They had Justice

1041
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: Hill behind him in the backfield. Um, they had some

1042
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: playmakers where he all he had to do is just

1043
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: get it to him and allowed him to do their thing.

1044
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: I think in Pittsburgh, depending on the level of playmakers

1045
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: that he has a running right now, I would say

1046
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: the supporting cast hasn't played to expectation, but he will

1047
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: have Juju Smith Schuster available to him. We will see

1048
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: about James Conner if they can find a way to

1049
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: just elevate the supporting cast around him and allow him

1050
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: just to make those plays. I think he can be fine.

1051
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: Early on, he played pretty well against the Seattle ce Yoaks.

1052
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: We'll see if he gets better with a full week

1053
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: of prep work. But coming off his preseason whatever, I

1054
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: still expect this offense to be uh functional and efficient.

1055
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't think they would be as dangerous or as

1056
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: explosive as they were with Ben Roethlisberger, but I think

1057
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: they can be fine. Teddy Bridgewater in New Orleans, um,

1058
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: I think he will be a guy that the second

1059
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: time that we see him, meaning next week, when we

1060
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: see him as a starting quarterback, I think it all

1061
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: look a lot different Sean Payton in the system and

1062
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: the way that they do those things. I think they

1063
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: can emphasize different parts of the system to enhance with

1064
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater brings to the table and I think he

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Speaker 1: will flourished. The one thing that I respect expect from

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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater typically want to turn the ball over. He'll

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Speaker 1: keep them in games where he can play winning football.

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Speaker 1: But then does he leave points on the field because

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Speaker 1: he's not necessarily a risk taker that he does play

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Speaker 1: a little risk adverse um Drew Brees took care of

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Speaker 1: the ball, but he always would kind of pushed the

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Speaker 1: envelope to make some of those plays. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridge would will be able to kind of push

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Speaker 1: the envelope while still retaining the ability to have uh

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Speaker 1: terrific ball security. Yeah, I know, great points on both

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Speaker 1: those guys. Uh, Mason Rudolph. I went back and looked

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Speaker 1: up my notes on him, and Uh, I've got it

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Speaker 1: right here. Uh he's a tight end. His freshman year

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Speaker 1: in high school was in the gun quick feet, um,

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Speaker 1: beautiful deep ball, a lot of first read throws. The

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Speaker 1: ball does die a little bit when he tries to

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Speaker 1: drive it. In my comparison Buck with Nick Foles, UM

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Speaker 1: and Nick Foles obviously, uh gonna go down one of

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00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: the greatest relief pitchers at the in NFL history for

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Speaker 1: leading the Eagles to a Super Bowl. So I think

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00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: the Steelers fans would gladly take that if they could

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00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: give a Fool's esque relief performance from Mason Rudolph and

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00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: then Teddy Bridgewater Um the challenge they're taking over for Drew.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who it is. You know who was

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00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: his backup, and it just happens to be Teddy. Nobody

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00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: in the NFL gets to number four in the progression

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00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: as fast as Drew Brees does. And that's what kind

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00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 1: of makes this version of this offense go because with

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00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: his experience and just the way he plays the game, Buck,

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00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: nobody can get there that fast. So I don't see

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00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: this is like that. You know, you used to have

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00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: those old commercials like you know Coke and Diet Coke

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00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: or whatever, Like this is Diet Breeze. Like, you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be able if you're gonn run that offense. It's

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Speaker 1: not gonna run anywhere near that same clip because nobody

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00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: can get through progressions like him. So that's where my

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Speaker 1: thought process Cannon came from. Uh, you know, Taysom Hill.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be sprinkled in a little bit more

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if if he ended up

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Speaker 1: getting the majority of the reps before too long during

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00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: Breeze's absence. You have to run a completely different offense

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00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: with Taysom Hill. But is it better to have of,

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00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: you know, PEPSI as opposed to having diet coke lack

1109
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: of a better analogy? Like Taysom Hill gives you a

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00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 1: totally different thing, but it's not a cheaper, knockoff version

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00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: of of what you had with Drew Brees. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fascinating to watch this whole thing come together. Look,

1113
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Speaker 1: I didn't even think about the Taysom Hill thing, but

1114
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: that's a very real thing. And how do you deploy

1115
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: both quarterbacks and how do you use them? What? What

1116
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: kind of stuff can you do with Taysom Hill? How

1117
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: much is too much? Can you put Taso Meal on

1118
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: the field too much? Where then you begin to see

1119
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: the cracks in his game? He has always been a

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00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: nice change of pace option. But I do want to

1121
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: if it's almost like chocolate. Chocolate and small doses is nice,

1122
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: it's a nice compliment. But if you have too much

1123
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: of to make you sick, so it Taysom Hill, how

1124
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: much is enough before it kind of takes you over

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Speaker 1: the top. It'll be interesting to see how Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: kind of toes that line when it comes to exposing

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill to the defense without really putting him in

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Speaker 1: harm's way. Yeah, it's uh, Look, I just I think

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Speaker 1: I hope that does well. I'm a big teddy guy.

1130
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: Um coming through the draft. Off is my top quarterback

1131
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: this year, that year. Um, I hope he plays well.

1132
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: I just think there's such an urgency with this team

1133
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: right now to win right now. It can't afford to

1134
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: give away games. So if it doesn't, if it doesn't

1135
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Speaker 1: go smoothly early, I don't think it will be a

1136
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Speaker 1: long leash. I think you'll see them quickly try and

1137
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: adjust and you'll see more Taysom Hill. So uh, it'll

1138
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Speaker 1: be fascinating to see what Sean Payton does. Their football

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Speaker 1: Certain restrictions and dat rates may apply, U Buck. I mean,

1146
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Speaker 1: I'm like exhausted right now. I mean we kind of today.

1147
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Speaker 1: We we we did a lot, we covered a lot

1148
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Speaker 1: of ground. But that I mean that's today's NFL, like

1149
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: so many things going. And I think if you're a

1150
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: team build, an executive, a decision maker, um, I think

1151
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: you even on the practice field with your phone always

1152
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: nearby because they're getting too updates and the phone's a buzzing.

1153
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: I just think you gotta be on your p and

1154
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Speaker 1: ques right now if you're trying to build a championship

1155
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Speaker 1: team in this league. Who knows by the time you're

1156
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: listening to this Jalen Ramsey might have a new home.

1157
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: The way things are moving and shaking in the NFL

1158
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Speaker 1: right now, it's a fun time, fun time to be

1159
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Speaker 1: a fan of the NFL as we all are. I

1160
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Speaker 1: want to encourage everybody again to uh to find all

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Speaker 1: of our video content NFL dot com slash MTS video.

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Speaker 1: You can find it there. If you want more on

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and you can go to NFL dot com

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Speaker 1: three sixty episode where we talked to high school coach,

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Speaker 1: college coach, um as private quarterback coach, as well as

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and his family. Um. You'll learn more about

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Speaker 1: the new Giants quarterback if you go there. And I

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Speaker 1: haven't forgot I know you guys have seen a bunch

1170
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Speaker 1: of questions already on the reviews on Apple podcast. We

1171
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Speaker 1: are going to get to that in our next episode.

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Speaker 1: So if you have a question you want a lot

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Speaker 1: to buck your myself, Uh, just get on there, leave

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Speaker 1: us a review and drop a question in there and

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Speaker 1: we'll answer it on the next episode. Any the LHU

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Speaker 1: you want to add before we get out of here.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Buck, I know We've got a big,

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Speaker 1: rather big college football game coming up this weekend where yeah, here, there, here,

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Speaker 1: there's a big there's a big a game going on

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Speaker 1: in Chapoo this weekend between the f State Mountaineers. I

1181
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: mean they should be the favorite. I mean they're the

1182
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: best team in the state playing on my little low

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Speaker 1: li Tario. So we'll see if my guys can kind

1184
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: of hang in there. It's gonna be fun. Man. We're

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00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna preview that with both coaches joining the show,

1186
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: so we'll have some fun talking about that game. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us today. I'm Daniel Jeremiah.

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00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks. Catch you next time. Thanks for downloading

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