WEBVTT - The Suite Life with Nicky Hilton

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down Kraler Michael and Radio podcast. Good morning everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>or afternoon or evening or whenever you're listening to this,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's Janna Kramer and Michael Cosson for another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of wine Down. Jannah Cosson, Hey, Team Cosses all about

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<v Speaker 1>the team. What's going on? Boo you good? I'm great?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you good? I had to take the monitor

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<v Speaker 1>away from you before we recorded this because you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be looking at the whole time again. Yeah, where'd it go? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You go. Jason is doing better though. He's doing so good,

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<v Speaker 1>so good. He's not screaming at night any more, which

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing. He's not throwing his love and Wabbi and

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<v Speaker 1>he's back to doing that really cute thing like every

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<v Speaker 1>time I put him in his crib, he'll stand up

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<v Speaker 1>and then give me a kiss and then he'll lay

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<v Speaker 1>back down and like he like watched you walk out

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<v Speaker 1>of the room. Yeah, but he doesn't like throw the

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<v Speaker 1>love and Wabbi at you, and his naps aren't great. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But a Llana who's the good night sleep coach that

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<v Speaker 1>um we talked about two episodes ago. Yeah, she's um.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been texting her and she's been you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>like keep on it. Like sometimes naps can be the

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<v Speaker 1>one like a little bit harder, but I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>been given us at least forty five minutes to an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll take it. I'll take anything. The only like

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<v Speaker 1>she even said to She's like, don't worry about the

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of time he slept. It's about just the

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<v Speaker 1>quiet time of him in his crib, which I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not stressed. She's as long as he's not like

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<v Speaker 1>screaming the entire time, and he's just is he just

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<v Speaker 1>chilling there? And I'm like, yeah, he's just he's not crying.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's been as long as he's not crying. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the crying that gets me. Oh yeah, that wears us down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what yesterday when you're going and I was here

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<v Speaker 1>during his nap and it was like he woke up

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<v Speaker 1>after forty five minutes, but he was just chilling. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't until the last wasn't ntil the last ten that

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<v Speaker 1>you started crying. And so I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good. Yeah he's chilling. No, that's really good. And

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<v Speaker 1>then a lot of people on our Instagram say our

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram's on my Instagram, I should just like rebrand it

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<v Speaker 1>Creamer and Mike girl, Like, how do I say Cramer

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike. I don't know, Cramer Girl, Cramer Boy, Cramer kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had not like backlash on the I s R.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, because I posted the video of Jace the

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<v Speaker 1>swimming not being able to he has I posted the

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<v Speaker 1>one video of him um where they were holding him up,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I posted the one of him jumping off

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<v Speaker 1>the diving boar or h then sorry correction, being thrown

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<v Speaker 1>off the diving board. And you know, he's not there yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but he will be, like I think by the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this week, he'll he'll have it. Takes you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit longer for that age. But it was so

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<v Speaker 1>hard and you weren't You weren't able to go because

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<v Speaker 1>he had a meeting. But I went to I saw

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<v Speaker 1>jolly dooit and she did great, she did amazing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, she's finally not relying on her

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<v Speaker 1>floaties and she's proud of it, and she's so proud

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<v Speaker 1>of it, which is like makes me so happy, but

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<v Speaker 1>but also a little like a crap. Now we have

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<v Speaker 1>to really watch her in the pool. Really watch her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a little over confident. Overconfident for sure. So now

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, dang, now we can't go back to the floaties,

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<v Speaker 1>which was like our babysitter in a way. Um well

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<v Speaker 1>know we were always outside of correct, not twisted, um no.

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<v Speaker 1>But so you know, Jollie did it, and so then

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<v Speaker 1>I went to go get Jason. I'm like, is he done?

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, oh no, he's going off the diving

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<v Speaker 1>board and I was like, um what huh? And so

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<v Speaker 1>I had my friend Linda there with me and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I can't watch it, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>turn away, but I want you to record it because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna watched it. She recorded it, but then when

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<v Speaker 1>I heard the splash, I turned around. Then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>roll over, roll over, Chase, And you know, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get it, and obviously they like corrected him and helped him.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know a lot of people are like, how

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<v Speaker 1>could you throw your kid in the water? And that

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<v Speaker 1>seems a little rough, and for some people it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I like our swim or the I

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<v Speaker 1>s R. Teacher that's teaching this class is he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I might not be your guy, if you want someone

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<v Speaker 1>to be like your kids aren't here to just play

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<v Speaker 1>splichy splashy, especially as what he said, He's like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're here to play sp if you want me to

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<v Speaker 1>play splichy splashy with your kids, Like I ain't you guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, you can't leave right now. Yeah. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna cattle. I'm not gonna hold him, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be like, you're fine. And he's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to teach him how to survive. Yeah, And he's

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<v Speaker 1>like what was he saying the other stuff? He was

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<v Speaker 1>like like he said the floaties were the worst thing

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<v Speaker 1>you could ever do to your kids, Which I'm like, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>pat on my back, bad mom. But I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where I started to really do research.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we've known people that have not known people,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've seen stories and especially the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>sweet so many kids and they say say they say

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<v Speaker 1>over childhood deaths are in the back or drownings are

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<v Speaker 1>in your swimming pool, and as a pool owner and

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<v Speaker 1>as a mom, like that's terrifying. So I was like, crap,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to and like my biggest fear is even

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<v Speaker 1>though we have a a cover that they could stand

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<v Speaker 1>on and be fine, it's still scary. It is, it

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<v Speaker 1>really is. And I think we've been We've done a

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<v Speaker 1>great job. I mean, being hyper vigilant in keeping it

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<v Speaker 1>closed at all times, you know, if it's not we're

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<v Speaker 1>out there and just never really taking our eyes off

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<v Speaker 1>of them and taking that for granted. Because I can

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<v Speaker 1>see why, right, people think they're comfortable with their own home. Yeah, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna go in and do this real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be right back or whatever. And it's thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes thirty seconds. Yeah, so I get it. But

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<v Speaker 1>so I would just it might be a little rough,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will just say to the mom is out there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to do the training. And I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have done it earlier with Jay's

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<v Speaker 1>like I wish I did it when he was a baby. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know Andy too because she's four, Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's one of those things like even

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<v Speaker 1>though the teacher said, like the puddle jumpers, the floaty

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<v Speaker 1>things are like the worst you can do. It's you

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<v Speaker 1>do things in your time that's that's convenient for you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that you you know, that works with your schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>that works with your beliefs, that works with what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do. So yeah, but the second we got

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<v Speaker 1>a pool, that's why I was like, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>get this kid. Yeah, was like walking and able to

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<v Speaker 1>open the door. I was like, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>lessons to survive, especially once he started being a little

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<v Speaker 1>velociraptor and opening the doors. Yeah, now that he can

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<v Speaker 1>open the doors, I'm like, Okay, yes, the gate is

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<v Speaker 1>technically closed, but like what if And I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't want to play any of those things. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry if people had a hard time looking at it,

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<v Speaker 1>because trust me, it wasn't easy for this MoMA either.

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<v Speaker 1>But but it's in his survival skills. Yeah. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just got off a call for our book. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, talking about out like our virtual book tour

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<v Speaker 1>and how the pre sales are going and all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're very taken back by the response that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of our followers, um, you know, have come through

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<v Speaker 1>and pre ordered the book. So if you haven't yet,

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<v Speaker 1>you won't be left down. It's gonna be amazing. We're

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<v Speaker 1>working on some exclusive content like a private Facebook group

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<v Speaker 1>if you pre order, where we'll jump on their um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, every day or at least once a

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<v Speaker 1>week or something like that. We're gonna work out the

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<v Speaker 1>schedule and be posting that stuff. But there's definitely gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of incentive out there for preordering. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even a song, I guess, yeah, go to uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even a song. Who knows um and Mike dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>Jan and Mike dot com, go get your book and

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<v Speaker 1>let's say a quick break. And so we have an

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<v Speaker 1>awesome guest joining the show today, Nikki Hilton. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>ever watch, by the way, the Paris Hilton Show with

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<v Speaker 1>Sofia m Yeah, man, that was like high school. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that was the o G of reality shows.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one had to be one of them for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I love I mean, I know Nikki wasn't on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but I always loved how Nikki just always seemed very

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<v Speaker 1>not that Paris wasn't, but Nikki always just seemed very classy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Paris has just had her own stretch of bad publicity,

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<v Speaker 1>so did she Yeah, just you know, being I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really remember intoxicated or you know, sex tape

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<v Speaker 1>leaking out and stuff like that. So, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>look at the Kardashians Award for her Kim Kardashian was

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<v Speaker 1>actually Paris Hilton's assistant. I remember that wardrobe sold her

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<v Speaker 1>wardrobe Now, I mean no, But Nikki has a new

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<v Speaker 1>shoe line out, so we're excited to talk to her.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's married with two kids, and so we'll dive

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<v Speaker 1>into deep what she's going on during her quarantine family life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see. How's everything with you? Great? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about what we're doing. I'm you have a

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<v Speaker 1>movie coming up? Why, I don't want to say anything yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Potential movie coming up, potential that if it goes through,

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<v Speaker 1>Jane's trying to get me to play a part in it,

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<v Speaker 1>which should be fantastic. It would be so fun. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're too cute. You're too cute for like I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think you could get their role because you're

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<v Speaker 1>just too good looking. But I look like your co

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<v Speaker 1>stars friend. And the only thing is, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's actually going to happen because with everything COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have massive PTSD from The Canada

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<v Speaker 1>Adventure where it's like you book a movie just kidding

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<v Speaker 1>one scene and we're taking everything you need, don't get

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<v Speaker 1>paid goodbye. It's like, but no, I mean, I hope.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm trying to stay positive. It's just been it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little hard to stay positive when I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>certain things are kind of being taken from you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's tough. I mean I might have said this on

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<v Speaker 1>here before, at least with a group of our friends,

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<v Speaker 1>where I was like, has some high expectations, like people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to have their their expectations through the roof

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<v Speaker 1>because of the way this year has gone so well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. My therapist she sent me this quote. For

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<v Speaker 1>so long, you've tried to see the positive. You have

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<v Speaker 1>tried to keep a good balance between being a realist

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<v Speaker 1>and an optimist. You knew the future was lined with unknowns,

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<v Speaker 1>but you also had this hope maybe this was finally

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<v Speaker 1>going to be your year. I mean, how many times

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<v Speaker 1>have we looked in the new year? By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this is unquote if like when you start a new year,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, this is okay, this is gonna be my

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<v Speaker 1>year because last year this happened, and this happened, so

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<v Speaker 1>now this is going to be my year. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever had that? Do you guys not think that way?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know girls do, Like you know me, I've

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<v Speaker 1>cried for the first five years of my New Year's

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, it's not what I thought it would be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know if it's a guy thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, for me, I don't. I don't put that

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<v Speaker 1>much weight into New Year's like I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people do, but I should never have. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been like this is the start of my year. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's you know, in my professional career, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>like the end of my year, and so my timeline

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<v Speaker 1>was always a little different because i was like working sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was working sometimes. The last week of this season

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't until after New Year's. So it's like I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of working towards the tail end of working.

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<v Speaker 1>My year is just ending, like I'm getting ready to

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<v Speaker 1>like shut it down for a little bit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to like new you knew me, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting over. It's like, no, I'm gonna lay on the

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<v Speaker 1>couch for like three weeks, you know, and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of my body. So I've just I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of it. Where you know, those middle five

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<v Speaker 1>years or five six years that I was in that

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<v Speaker 1>world really kind of changed my mindset on it. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. Um, by the way, that was from

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan Harper Nichols. And she basically goes on to finish

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<v Speaker 1>it by saying, um, you know, uh, the year of

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<v Speaker 1>things that you know, your year the year things finally

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<v Speaker 1>fell in place theory, you finally stepped out of your

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<v Speaker 1>comfort zone to embrace new unknowns. You had a passionate vision,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a plan for how things could go. So

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<v Speaker 1>she goes on to all these things, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>goes here's the thing. These are questions you might have

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<v Speaker 1>to sit with for a little while. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>also true. It's worth it to keep trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>the most of where you are, trusting that right here

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<v Speaker 1>this July, you can still know a meaningful life even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's not what you thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>look like. You can keep seeking goodness and everyday life.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if it's hard to think positively about the future.

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<v Speaker 1>You can still try to make the most of where

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<v Speaker 1>you are with music, conversations, writing, nature, and knowing the

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<v Speaker 1>future will arrive when it is meant to arrive. And

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<v Speaker 1>for now you have this moment. It's not what you

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would be. But perhaps the end of July

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<v Speaker 1>can be its own kind of beautiful. Perhaps you can

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<v Speaker 1>only be here right now and that's okay. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely love that, because that's what I'll saying in

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<v Speaker 1>my head is why wait until January for it to

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<v Speaker 1>be like a fresh start on something? Why wait till

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<v Speaker 1>the new year to start something you've always wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 1>you know? And I bring that up because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we're halfway to the new year and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like people might be I mean, shoot, I had that

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<v Speaker 1>mindset like, well, maybe we should wait to put our

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<v Speaker 1>book out because you know, we're gonna miss doing the

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<v Speaker 1>book tour, we're gonna miss doing this. Like but it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why pause things because it might not look the way

0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.480
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to. And my friend Mallory Irwin, who's so sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, are you gonna be able to go

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<v Speaker 1>on a book dor And I'm like no, and she's like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I know you were so excited about that.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, but maybe there's going to be some beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>thing within the the stuff that you know you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to do at home, and I was just like, I

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<v Speaker 1>love you things for the optimism, you know, and that

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<v Speaker 1>helps too, But I think that's I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just something to maybe like introspectively look inside of you

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<v Speaker 1>and go, Okay, what am I pausing on in my

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<v Speaker 1>life right now? And how can I how can I

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<v Speaker 1>unpause this? Like but this uncertainty because like even like

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<v Speaker 1>with the movie or with maybe what with what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do? Mike, it's like you're afraid to almost

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<v Speaker 1>be positive because you're like it will it be taken away? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But to not stop either way, I guess it's the point. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, and I appreciate you sharing that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone we'll appreciate you sharing that because it

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<v Speaker 1>is it is eye opening just to make the most

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. And like you said, why wait, like

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<v Speaker 1>why put something off when you can do it now?

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I love it? So what are you putting

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<v Speaker 1>off that you would want to start now? Um? Two

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<v Speaker 1>things that have actually been on my mind a lot recently.

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<v Speaker 1>One is I mean I feel like everybody in there,

0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.480
<v Speaker 1>cousin is there, really wants to get their real estate

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<v Speaker 1>license these days. But you know, you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>talked about a little bit. Nick car Rioder has talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a talk to us about me doing it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Yes, he hasn't mentioned it. Yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be upset about it. I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to mend it to Catherine. No, he's mentioned it

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<v Speaker 1>because he's like to have kind of like a partner

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<v Speaker 1>in things. Um. But I think for us, with what

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<v Speaker 1>we want to do in the future, with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our money and like finances, investments, it would just make

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<v Speaker 1>sense to have it, you know. Um. Yeah, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that I'm like, why wait, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the perfect time where we're not traveling. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have these shortened weeks because if we have to go

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere or do this or do that. It's like I can, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have as much help with the kids, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can set aside time where it's an hour or

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<v Speaker 1>two during that time of day or whatever. Oh do

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<v Speaker 1>you think you could instead of taking my two hour lunches?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But that's but I don't ask. I

0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.440
<v Speaker 1>don't say that from a um from a snarky place.

0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I say that from a place like that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>need for sure it is the longest time I was like, God,

0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.480
<v Speaker 1>couldn't he be doing something else right now? But then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, just because I choose to spend my two

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<v Speaker 1>hour break doing certain things that might seem more in

0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.440
<v Speaker 1>someone else's mind like proactive, but that's how that's what

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<v Speaker 1>fuels me, Like, that's what feeds me. And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I've kind of stopped to be like, no, like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>your that's what you need for you to be centered, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to have something to strive forward. So I don't I'm

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to take that like you shouldn't. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>don't take that away. No, not at all. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>that and then I just keep dragging my feet on

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<v Speaker 1>learning French, come a flute into French. So yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think those are my two things just for this

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<v Speaker 1>next six months to really take and uh, make the

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<v Speaker 1>most of. I want to talk about a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about that and how I can because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to help you, your your partner, what you

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<v Speaker 1>can do to help. But let's pause on that because

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<v Speaker 1>we have Nikki Hilton in the waiting room, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>get her on. Hello, Hey, Hi, how are you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Janna And this is my husband, Mike. I'm good. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you great? We're good. We're just like surviving over here.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing with the quarantine stuff? I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>l A now. So I was in Long Island from

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<v Speaker 1>let's see, March twelve to July one, so like lockdown

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<v Speaker 1>and quarantine, and then I finally mustered up the strength

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<v Speaker 1>to come to my family in l A. Which has

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<v Speaker 1>been really how has it been with the kids during

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<v Speaker 1>this time? Because your kids are how old? How old

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<v Speaker 1>are they? Again? I have two and a half and

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<v Speaker 1>almost four. How many do you guys have? So we

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<v Speaker 1>have a four year old and we of an twenty

0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:06.800
<v Speaker 1>month old. Okay, so very very similar. Yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 1>guys were doing the homeschooling and all that, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>tried to do the homeschooling for Jolie. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>letter G and then I was like, I'm not meant

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<v Speaker 1>to be a teacher. I don't have the patients. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, let's just go outside and do chalk or

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<v Speaker 1>something because I can't do this. And you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was getting just as equally as frustrated as as I was,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we kind of we pulled the plug on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But because she dropped out of her fourth grade preschool class. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we try we have Obviously, I think a lot

0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.359
<v Speaker 1>of people are going to have a greater appreciation for

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<v Speaker 1>teachers right through all of this. So yeah, once we

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<v Speaker 1>got halfway through the alphabet, like, yeah, we weren't meant

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<v Speaker 1>to be teachers, So let's just go play because that's

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<v Speaker 1>our job. What did you do? What I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>doing well boom School, which was brutal because it's all

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<v Speaker 1>of the children and they're muted, and they're crying, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not there turn and they all want to do

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty minute show and tell of their favorite whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was exhausting. So I ended up doing a

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<v Speaker 1>mini camp on my lawn, which was amazing. Um, there

0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.360
<v Speaker 1>was a few kids in the neighborhood that had all

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<v Speaker 1>been quarantined and not left their house. So we got

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<v Speaker 1>two teenagers from the neighborhood and did this little mini

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<v Speaker 1>camp with like five or six children. We did arts

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<v Speaker 1>and crabs, we did sports, and it was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>That recommend Yeah, that's exactly what we're doing this fall

0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.760
<v Speaker 1>for her. So we decided that we're going to potentially

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<v Speaker 1>bring her back to two days and the other three,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do that same thing where it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do crafts over at Pamlin's house. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come here and we're gonna do you know, musical theater

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<v Speaker 1>and then like and then we'll learn over here. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like we're gonna we're going to rotate too, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just like they're at this at that age,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, let them have fun but also have experience too.

0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:16.479
<v Speaker 1>So yes, and I would say that Disney plus Apps

0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:22.000
<v Speaker 1>saved my life when they released Frozen too early. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a very exciting day in our household patrols. We're

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<v Speaker 1>on the cocoa melon. Are our old loves cocoa melon

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube? So it's like, yes, YouTube YouTube another godsend.

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<v Speaker 1>No question, how is how do the kids feel? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you the whole family go back to l A right now? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all here. How do they feel? Being very nice

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<v Speaker 1>because we're staying with my parents, um, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>their own little room here and it's just nice for

0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.439
<v Speaker 1>them to be with people other than my husband and I.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, speaking of since this is a relationship show,

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<v Speaker 1>have have you guys? I mean do you normally spend

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time together or was the quarantine just

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<v Speaker 1>like the first time you guys have spent so much

0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>time together. We both traveled quite a bit, um, but no,

0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.719
<v Speaker 1>we spend a lot of time together. But this was

0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot a lot of time. And I think most

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<v Speaker 1>people can say that that was one of the silver

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<v Speaker 1>linings because at what other point in your life are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to have breakfast, lunch, and dinner with your

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<v Speaker 1>family for a hundred plus consecutive days. And I think

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:47.200
<v Speaker 1>quarantine was actually great for our relationship. I keep reading

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<v Speaker 1>all these statistics about divorce rates going through the roof, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am very grateful. We didn't really butt heads.

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<v Speaker 1>The largest fight we would have is what we're cooking

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<v Speaker 1>for dinner that night. It was real, which by the way,

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:07.360
<v Speaker 1>is very exhausting. That's why I just kind of took

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<v Speaker 1>it over. That's why he's the oh Mike, I am, Yes,

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:15.160
<v Speaker 1>my my husband too. Yeah. He I couldn't cook anything.

0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I it's frozen pizzas or home chef. But you know

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:21.399
<v Speaker 1>this guy is he's he cooks everything. And then I

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 1>just I clean. So I love to clean. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I like to do. What's funny is I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with love languages, Jana isn't really an active service.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think she realized that she's more of that

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<v Speaker 1>because I hadn't seen her looked at me with so

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<v Speaker 1>so much love when I told her what was for

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<v Speaker 1>dinner without even asking, I was like, hey, I didn't

0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:41.840
<v Speaker 1>say what do you want for dinner? I said this

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<v Speaker 1>is what's for dinner today, this is what's for dinner tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>She looked at me like I was her prince charming,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't have to decide or say anything. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it. Yes. Where do you guys live? We

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<v Speaker 1>live in Nashville now. We used to live in l A.

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<v Speaker 1>We just moved back to Nashville last year because with

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<v Speaker 1>the kids to school. Yeah, really really good hiding on

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<v Speaker 1>our behalf, but you know, it was just we we

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.400
<v Speaker 1>love Nashville, so it was it's nice to be back

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<v Speaker 1>here for sure for the kids. Nikki. For you, has

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<v Speaker 1>work at all been inhibited because of all this quarantine

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<v Speaker 1>or have you been able to be creative and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of come up with new things during this time? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's definitely challenging to even be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do work. To even be able to do this right

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:32.639
<v Speaker 1>now without my kids rushing in and screaming, is you know,

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>quite a miracle. Um. But have I been creative? Yes? Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what I've learned from my friends also is

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<v Speaker 1>that so many people are trying to be creative in

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the sense of pivoting what they're going to do? What's

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<v Speaker 1>the next step? Um? Because so many jobs occupations are

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<v Speaker 1>just not possible right now, so everyone's tempting to pivot.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that when you started the shoe, how long even

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>been working on your shoe line for I've been doing

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the shoes for like two years now, and amazingly, the

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>shoes sales have been doing pretty well all things considered,

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>because I think they are the ideal working from home shoe.

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've seen the collection, but it's

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 1>lots of like cheek loafers, ballet flats. It's home. None

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>of us are wearing heels anytime soon. Is that what

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.959
<v Speaker 1>inspired this specific line was because just everyone's at home

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.960
<v Speaker 1>so much right now. I think, just becoming a mother,

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I live in ballet flats. I just think they're comfy, chic,

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 1>and you know, a better alternative than a sneaker and

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 1>so I've just warned them forever. But I've really embraced

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>them these past few months because I'm not one of

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>those girls who wants to walk round and slippers. I

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know, putting on a proper shoe makes them to

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 1>feel a little human during this no one where can

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>um where can people actually shot for the shoes too? Um?

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 1>There are my website Nicki, Hilton dot com or Zappos

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 1>and it's yeah, it is your second collection with French Soul.

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Um But yes, it does say the first ever venture

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 1>into the footwear business. But that's not true, then is it?

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Because it's your second collection. I've been doing design since

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:40.919
<v Speaker 1>some seventeen. I started doing handbags and then got into clothing, jewels,

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 1>um so, but I've never done footwear, so the French

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Soul collab was my first. I'm really enjoying that. That's awesome.

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Have you had a hard time though? I know Mike

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and I were talking about this, and we knew that

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>we were going to interview you, and you know, Mike

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>brought up a good question, do you want to ask

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>a bid? Oh? Yeah, I was. We were just wondering,

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, with some one with a family like yours,

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>right do you did you find it beneficial but also

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>difficult in order to break away from from that name

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>in order to build your own brand or is it

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:12.880
<v Speaker 1>still beneficial at the same time, like kind of where

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>was that relationship? I mean, I would say it's a

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>double ledged sword. Your name can certainly open doors, but

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 1>ultimately the product speaks for itself. And especially in this

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>day and age, a store, um, a retailer is not

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>going to stop your product if it's not moving. So

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that name can only take you so far. This is,

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, a business and if you're not moving, sure

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:47.120
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to be carried. What do you want

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>to be like go into next after this? Is there

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:51.679
<v Speaker 1>something that like you're like, like why am I not

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 1>doing this project? Because we're kind of talking about earlier

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>before you came on, things that were pausing in our

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>life that we have that we're kind of dragging our

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>feet on. I would love to get into children's wear. Yeah,

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I love. I know that sounds a bit cliche. It's

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>not because there's not many places and it's frustrating because

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>whenever I look, I don't have a really hard time

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>finding like I'll find one piece of clothing there, one

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>piece of clothing there, But it's nothing where I'm like,

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.439
<v Speaker 1>I can buy from one real site unless I just

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 1>go to Carter's. But you know, I not that anything's

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.479
<v Speaker 1>wrong with Carter's, but I just would like, you know,

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>to find it different with other cool things, so that

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 1>that my kid isn't wearing the same thing as Like, yes,

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Like I dropped Jolly off one day and I'm like,

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>it was a Target. I think it was a Target

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>shirt and three other girls were wearing her same shirt,

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, which is really cute. It's so cute.

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm like, please, please, please, please do that

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 1>because I would love to be able to have somewhere

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 1>else to shop where I can shop for for all

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 1>different kinds of clothes for my kids. Yeah. I did

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 1>a Mommy and Me collab a few years ago with

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>this brand with dresses and tops matching with the mommy.

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>That's really the only thing I've done in children. But

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just I think people love dressing

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:11.719
<v Speaker 1>up their children, and if you do it um at

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a good price point, at good quality. I don't know,

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I think there's room for for more brands. Speaking on that,

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>have you enjoyed dressing your daughter or your son more?

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm so I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Your

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>girl know her name is Theodora, but we call her Teddy,

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>so that's a fair mistake. Um. I love dressing them up.

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>They love dressing up, and they know I like when

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>they wear pretty dresses. So they will just run in

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>my room all dressed up every morning, all excited to

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>show off what they're wearing. Joli had a face where

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>she only wore dresses with scream if she scream if

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>she had to wear anything other than dresses. Yeah, really

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>hid her dresses. I know we had two at one point,

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>but now we just embrace it. Are you a Frozen family? Oh?

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>One present like she sings, let it go all the

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>freaking time like it's and then Frozen two. I mean

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it's it was game over with that one, and that

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>soundtracked is so good. So yeah, it's awesome. But all right,

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.719
<v Speaker 1>everyone go to Nikki Hilton dot com get her awesome

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>shoes with her collab from French Soul. Nikki Hilton, thank

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 1>you so much for coming on. We really appreciate it.

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, guys. Okay, so, oh, she's so sweet. I

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like she's just like a very chill, cool girl.

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>And now that our kids are the same age, like

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>we're basically best best friends, just like me and Melissa

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Gorga your best friends with everybody. Well, I wasn't the

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>other day. We won't bring that story up. But sometimes

0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I can be a little sarcastic and I think I've

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>to someone, but I can own up and apologize even

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>though anyways, anyways, anyways, um do do we should we

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>say what happened by the way, or no, we don't

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>have to know. You don't want to No, not that

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>what happened right before we started recording? Or now sure

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to Yeah I don't remember you know what

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>happened like thirty minutes ago? Oh yeah, oh yeah, okay,

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, so we don't have to know, let's do it. No,

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>no, no no, because I don't wan people think I'm like dragging,

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>like no, this was so long ago, this was like

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>a little different, but not really bring it up. Well,

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>right before we started recording, I was like, I got

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>this text message from and I'm not going to say

0:30:56.200 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>her name obviously, from anonymous. From anonymous she texted me

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what I was like trying to like,

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, who is this person? Like what like the name?

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like oh, and Mike's like what And I

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>was like, that's the first girl that you cheated on

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>me with when we were dating. Because she was a

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>fan of mine and Instagram fan, and she had reached

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>out to me on Instagram and we in a way

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>became friends. It was kind of weird, like we had

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>this friendship in a way, UM, and she had been

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>in a few relationships and so she texted me and

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I haven't really read it yet, but she basically it's

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>been a long time since we talked, but she just

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>wanted to say thank you and tell you how strong

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>and inspiring both you and Mike have been. I came

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>across your podcast recently and I've been listening to it

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>to help me through my marriage and sharing it with

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>my husband. Still carrying on six years of certain things.

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to share those details, but like

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>she had confided in me about out some things that

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>we're going on, UM, and you know, some things have

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>clicked in their relationship, and you know, She's like, I

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>thought it was ironic to come across your book coming out,

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>So maybe you know even more that it can help us.

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>She was, I'm so happy for you and Mike. Um

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>as happy as you are and have overcome all the struggle,

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it really still gives me hope that we can do

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>it too, So thank you for being so real and

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>putting it out there. It helps more than you know.

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>And I obviously just got it. And I haven't texted

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>her back, but I mean I haven't talked to her

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and probably a couple of years. I think we kind

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>of stopped talking because of you know, the obvious. But

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it's weird how it's kind of that silver lining where

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>even though like our lives, like maybe that had to happen.

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying we like because certain things like maybe

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>meeting me and you and like us and like than

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>having it weave through her relation and ship Like yes,

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>it was so traumatic when I found out when we

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>were dating, but able we're able to now be like wow,

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>like we've helped someone. I've been able to help someone.

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>You've been able to help someone, You've been able to

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>help her husband, You've been able you know. Where It's

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>like that's just such a small such a small world,

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>but but also such a beauty in it too. Beauty

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>through pain. Yeah, no it is. And I mean I

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>commend you for even being able to look at it

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>that way. Well, there's certain people I wouldn't be able

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to know. I understand that. I think this. Yeah, this

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>is a little different to it in a sense, but

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>still the fact that you're able to take something that

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 1>was the start of pain between in our relationship and

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>be able to look at it through the lens of well,

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe that was supposed to happen to for you know,

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>for all of this, the positive, the positive things that

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>have come out of some of this to happen. Obviously

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>we wish we could go back and I should redo it,

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>of course. Um, but no, that's that's encouraging though. Yeah,

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that's encouraging. And that's the thing I mean, I think

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 1>in that situation too, it's just knowing that. And I

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>will say this too, because a lot of people, I

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>know something, when we talked about our four you talked

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>about it. I didn't even bring it up. I just

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>think that right now. But when you were doing like

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Monday and you brought up our four year discovery day,

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, that got picked up or whatever, and a

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are like, why would you celebrate that?

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 1>And I did say something to someone. I was like,

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:51.240
<v Speaker 1>it's we're not celebrating um this anniversary. What we're doing

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>is we're recognizing it, we're acknowledging it, and we're also

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and we're also saying like wow, like

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>look how far we've come from even just last year

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and then the year before that. And then like it's

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>not about because the thing is you're not going to

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>forget the date. You're not going to forget certain you know,

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>do you forget your wedding date? No, like you remember

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>certain dates that impact your life, whether good or bad.

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think you know someone else is like, oh

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 1>my god, would you stop talking about it already? Well,

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. This is our you know, we're dragging

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Mike through the mud. And I'm like, A he brought

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>it up. I was not going to say anything. But

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>when you shared about it, I was like, okay, Like

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing that he shared that, because you know I was,

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't going to and then when you shared it

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>as when I put that post, and it's not about

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 1>dragging anybody through the mud. What it is and just

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>like with that text message, it's about acknowledging growth and

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>acknowledging like how we can help other people like this

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>is our podcast as we talk about things that we've

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.919
<v Speaker 1>learned and how we're still learning. We talk about things

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:59.399
<v Speaker 1>that are uncomfortable because of what we've been through. So

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>exactly to your point, it's it was brought up to

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge the growth, and that's what we want to inspire

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 1>other couples that have been through difficult situations, whether the

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>same as we have or similar. Is how you can

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:16.919
<v Speaker 1>find that silver lining. Just kind of what you're talking

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.839
<v Speaker 1>about with the text messages how to look for positivity

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>so that date or that moment or that physical place

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>or trigger doesn't have to affect you with the same

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 1>amount of magnitude that it did from the first day

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>two years later, you know. So it's anyone who clearly

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>people saying that either even if they've been through that

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>something like that, they still have a lot of pain

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 1>and shame around it, or they haven't been through it,

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>because anyone who has could understand and appreciate how much

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>they would like to probably get to the point where

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>they can just acknowledge it and connect over it. And

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>again we would not bring it up all the time,

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>but we are on the platform that we do bring

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>it up because it's part of part of our it's

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>part of our story. Yeah, it is part of what

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>we do. It's part of how to help. It's just like,

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 1>do you want to get a tattoo from someone who

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have any tattoos? Probably not? Do you want to

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:25.399
<v Speaker 1>take read a relationship book on a relationship with by

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>someone who hasn't been through? Probably not. So we've been through.

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm dragging you through the mud? Am I dragging you

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:38.760
<v Speaker 1>through the mud? I brought it up. People are silly

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>well anyways, so yes, um back to the French into

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>the how can I help you in getting to your goal? Um?

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Great question? Thank you? But I asked that because I

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>think that's something where we have to act like we're

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:01.760
<v Speaker 1>whoever's listening. That's what you should ask your partner too, mhm,

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 1>because they can't do it. I don't think they can

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>do it alone. No. Two things that come up for me.

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>The first one is just with my personality and I

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 1>think maybe a guy in general puberty. Sorry, um that

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>it has to be like my idea, right, like if

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you started asking me, hey, so when are you gonna

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>study it there, Hey, when you're gonna do this today, Hey,

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 1>do you need me to watch the kids so you

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 1>can study? I'll be like, um, that would make me

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>not want to do it's because I feel like you're

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>being my mom, or I would make up that you're

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>being passive and that you were wanting me to do it,

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and that if I didn't do it then then it

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 1>would be an issue or it would be validating like

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that you don't get things done or whatever whatever. So

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:08.399
<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing. And second is when I do

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>do it. When I do tell you ahead of time,

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>say hey, from this time to this time, whether it's

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:16.399
<v Speaker 1>naptime or not, I'll try to do it during that time.

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>But to say it's not for whatever reason, and I

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 1>tell you ahead of time and say hey, from eight

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and nine I'm gonna study or whatever. Like I said,

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll probably do it during that time. But to treat

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<v Speaker 1>it as work, where it's like, all right, I said

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 1>for for this hour, I'm gonna study you. I'm going

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 1>to respect what you need around it, right, So it's

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>not like hey, can you come help me? Knowing that

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not quote unquote work, but I'm working towards something

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>where it's not like, hey, can you come out here

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>for a minute and help me? The kids have been crazy?

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Like yes, if it's everyone's going nuts and I need

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>to come help, that I need to come help. But

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 1>to treat it as such, to treat it as if

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm unavailable, because you know, if you just like you

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 1>coming in the room, if you have to post something

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, if I let the kids keep coming in

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and out, you'd be like I asked for an hour

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>or five minutes or whatever to do something and doesn't

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like your time is being respected. Makes sense? I

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 1>like it. Do you have any emails? I had a

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>really good one from wine Down, but don podcast you

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>can get one thou take me a second? All right,

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>here's one from Jessica. My question comes based on my

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 1>experience with my longtime boyfriend. He has a pass up

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>cheating on me with multiple people, even including a so

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>called friend. We have worked through our issues mostly and

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>much like Mike, he owns his mistakes and allows me

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to feel any and everything I feel. Recently, I heard

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't truly forgive until you've forgiven the other person

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the female. At first, I thought no way, but recently,

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been dreaming of a conversation with her in which

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 1>she's apologizing and I'm accepting. Having that conversation in my

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>sleep makes me feel like makes me feel like there's closure.

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 1>It makes me wonder if I should reach out to her.

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Would you or have you ever done this? Do you

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>think it would help or hurt any progress me and

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend made have made in the last three years? Interesting?

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts? So when I read this email,

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.720
<v Speaker 1>it made me think of anyone who's familiar with twelve steps,

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 1>made me think of step nine, which, for those of

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.399
<v Speaker 1>you don't know, I'll read Step nine and any twelve

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>step program is make direct amends to such people wherever possible,

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>except when to do so would injure them or others.

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Let me preface that by saying Step eight is make

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>a list of all persons you have harmed and become

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.800
<v Speaker 1>willing to make amends. So step nine is making amends

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 1>to the people that you've harmed unless to do so

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>would injure them or others. Now obviously not physically injure them,

0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>but emotionally harm her or injure them. My thought on

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that is again kind of like I was saying with

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 1>this the step work there is you'd have to be

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>really careful on if communicating with that person is going

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:24.240
<v Speaker 1>to actually help your relationship or not. Because if Jessica,

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>if she wants to reach out to the person that

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 1>he cheated on her with, I mean, he's she said,

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>multiple people, but the so called friend is the one

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>that seems like it's really bothering her. And say that

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>the so called friend doesn't apologize or isn't open to it,

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that's just gonna make things worse. So you're going in

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>with these expectations that may not be met and then

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:53.399
<v Speaker 1>which will just set you up for failure. And then

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't know how that's gonna Even talk to this

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>person in general might even bring up feelings, you know,

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>triggered or old feelings that may put a wall between

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>you and your boyfriend. So I don't know, it's just

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:11.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the nice I would say no, because the

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>connection of moving forward is between you and your boyfriend,

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 1>not anyone else. What are your thoughts? Don't do it? Yep,

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>it's it makes it worse. I mean, I wish I

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>could take back all the calls because it just makes

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>it so much worse, and it drives a bigger wedge

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>between you and your partner because there's things that you

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>just you'll ask that you don't want to know, and

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 1>it just is. It's like my therapys says, is it

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 1>hurt or harm? It's going to harm you, and if

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>something's going to harm you, you you don't do it. So yeah,

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Mike and Janna. I'm thirty three years old, married for

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 1>fifteen years to my high school sweetheart. We have been

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>blessed with two boys. I found out my husband hasn't

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>watching porn for a long time. We went through this

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:02.840
<v Speaker 1>when we first got married and I thought it went away.

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Every question I asked that him watching, he just replies,

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Then he once told me that it

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 1>was my fault because I am moody towards him. I

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's a sex addict or not. I've

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:15.359
<v Speaker 1>been trying different things in the bedroom or to please him,

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if that is enough or what

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I should do. He's refusing counseling or any treatment. I've

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>lost all my trust and I don't know how to

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>gain it back and be happy again. Good question. There's

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of meat on that bone. Um, here's the thing. Now,

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>she said they had a conversation around porn early in

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 1>their marriage, correct, So I mean we don't know what

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 1>that conversation entailed, right, Like, we don't know if she

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:46.800
<v Speaker 1>said as a boundary or I don't like it, or

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.440
<v Speaker 1>i'd appreciate if you don't, or it's disrespectful towards me

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 1>or considered cheating, whatever it may be, or if she said, well,

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>don't do it all the time. So because I mean, shoot,

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of people, masturbation is still normal, you

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, It's still a normal thing that

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>people do that some a lot of people are able

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 1>to do without it taking away from their relationship. Now

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 1>addict or not. Just the way I am now, I

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 1>do believe that even if you're not an addict, it's

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>can drive a wedge with your connectivity with your partner.

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:34.720
<v Speaker 1>That's just my personal belief. I think over time it can.

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>They just need to have she needs to set her

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>boundaries around it and consequences for the boundaries of boundaries

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>broken and live up to the both you know, like

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>if but I also yeah, I would also like to

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>ask her too. It's like, is it that she just

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like it and she feels disrespected or is it

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Can she see and feel the disconnect in their marriage?

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Like question, do you think porn is something that does

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 1>draw a disconnection from a relationship? Like I was just saying,

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that porn addiction not can drive a wedge.

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:17.399
<v Speaker 1>So I mean that's tough. I think she just needs to, yeah,

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>put down the boundaries and they need to have consequences

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>around these boundaries. And you have that conversation, it's tough. Well,

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>let's all go watch a PG rated film right now.

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Go watch Frozen two with Nicky Elton. Just starting Frozen

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>two with Nicky Elton. Just leave it at this with

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:42.240
<v Speaker 1>food for thought is make sure you and your partner

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>are are clear about boundaries and communicate around you know,

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:52.399
<v Speaker 1>some of these tough conversations, um, because when there's too

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 1>much room for interpretation, it can cause you know, a

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>big issue. Agree and you, guys, whatever is inside of you,

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:03.439
<v Speaker 1>it's out prolonging it. Do it. We got a half

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 1>of the year left and it's going to be amazing.

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I love you guys. H